Aug. 27, 2026

Wolf Creek Inn: Oregon Ghost Stories & Haunted History

Wolf Creek Inn: Oregon Ghost Stories & Haunted History
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In Southern Oregon, the historic Wolf Creek Inn has welcomed travelers, celebrities, and curious guests since the 1800s. Originally built along the Applegate Trail, it became a popular stop for settlers, miners, stagecoach passengers, and later railroad and highway travelers. The inn has hosted famous guests including Jack London, John Wayne, Clark Gable, Carole Lombard, Orson Welles, and Sir Anthony Hopkins. Jack London especially loved the inn, spending a summer writing there, and his former room is now preserved in his honor. Today, Wolf Creek Inn is the oldest continuously operating hotel in the Pacific Northwest and a historic Oregon landmark.

But Wolf Creek Inn may have more than just famous guests. Visitors and staff have reported footsteps, mysterious voices, flickering lights, apparitions, strange dreams, and objects flying across rooms. Ghostly entities reportedly include a female stagecoach driver, the spirit of Jack London, and even stories of a bizarre vampire-like creature roaming the hotel!

Just a few miles away, the Golden State Heritage Site, a former mining town now considered a ghost town, has its own spooky reputation, including shadow figures and the spirit of a preacher.

With decades of paranormal activity, the Wolf Creek Inn may be one of Southern Oregon's most intriguing haunted hotels.

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The Dougals were well known for their hospitality and chicken dinners.

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Their daughter Jane said in an article, quote, that the

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aroma from her mother Dinky's cooking in the kitchen brought

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the wolves to the yard. And she meant literally brought

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the fucking wolves to the yard.

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Because they were wolves.

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Right, right.

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And because of the large wolf population, guests had to

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use chamber pots overnight so that they didn't have to

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go outside to the outhouses and possibly encounter one of

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the wolves in the yard that came for Dinky's milkshake.

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Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Cassie. As she's taking a sip of wine. Yeah, well.

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I had to do it.

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If we go any longer just chit-chatting, then I'll have

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to go get another glass of wine. So, you know.

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Can you bring me one? Oh, yeah. Okay, so what

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were we doing? I said hi. Hi, creepy people.

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Hello. This is P & W Haunts and Homicides, where

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we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things

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spooky in the Pacific Northwest. Or the P & W,

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if you're nasty.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And we also do a tarot reading at the end

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of every episode for a little deeper insight into our topic.

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So stick around if you're into that. Yeah.

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I like how I'm just being your hype man today.

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I know. You are.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. That's okay. Hype me up because I need it.

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Let's just go. Let's get into it. Let's do it.

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Giddy up.

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Yeah.

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You're supposed to say yeehaw.

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Well, I kind of said it overlapping with you. If

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I'd known you were going to say, you know, giddy up,

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then yeah, I probably would have said yeehaw.

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But here we are. Kind of fitting.

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In the mid to late 1800s, the Applegate Trail was

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well used by settlers. I cannot say settler.

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Settlers. Settlers.

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The Applegate Trail was well used by settlers, miners, freighters.

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and anyone else who needed to travel between Oregon and California.

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The trail ran through a new settlement at the time

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called Wolf Creek, which is named after, can you guess?

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Named after?

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It's called Wolf Creek. Wolf Creek? I don't know. Why

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does it feel like I should?

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And I don't know.

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I don't know. You're just a hat rack today, I guess.

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I guess.

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It was named after the large amount of wolves in

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the area. Oh, okay.

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I was thinking about this like a little too literally.

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I was thinking like a person.

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That's what I thought. But like, no, this is the

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most obvious answer you can think of.

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You're like, it's a creek and there happened to be

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a lot of wolves.

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Yeah. So many wolves.

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Yeah. That's, uh, should have thought of that, but I'm

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hat racking it today.

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We'll kind of circle back to the wolves a little

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bit later. Okay.

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So this is in Southern Oregon. It's about 20 miles

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north of Grants Pass. And if you don't know where

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Grants Pass is, I didn't do it. It's a lot

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of miles south of Portland. So I was like, maybe

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a lot of people don't know Grants Pass unless you

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live in Oregon.

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Yeah, I would say it's fair if you don't know

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where that is in relation to Portland.

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I mean, it's like Medford almost to California area.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's multiple hour drive.

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Let's see.

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Portland to Wolf Creek. Let's just do it real quick

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on my phone. It says three hours and 15 minutes.

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I don't know if I agree.

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Well, that does not. There's no way. Bend is like

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three and a half hours, four hours, right?

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I feel like Bend is more solidly like four hours

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these days.

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But it's just like straight down. It's just like kind

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of a straight line down. But it might not account

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for some of the traffic too right at this moment.

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Well, that's what I'm thinking.

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225 miles from Portland.

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You know why I'm thinking it's longer? Because whenever I

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used to drive to like Klamath Falls, which is like

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kind of similarly south, it's actually a little bit further south,

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but it's also to the east. So the route for

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that is like straight down at first and then it

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like curves way off to the east. It's about like

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that's like four and a half hours right now. I

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have done that drive before. It very rarely takes four

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and a half hours.

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Does it take more usually? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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I was always doing that drive back and forth like

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over holiday weekends. And it could easily take you five

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and a half, six hours. It depends on all the

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P stops too. Well, that's the other thing. Like just

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purely the driving distance is one thing. But are you

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not making any stops for four and a half or

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five hours?

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Some people. Doubt it. Doubt it. Crazy people. Yeah. Who

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are you? Comment below. If you're insane, comment below. If

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you're a.

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Crazy person who just does that drive straight through, let

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us know.

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So moving along here, we're going to talk about Henry Smith.

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He built the first hostel for the travelers of the

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Applegate Trail in 1855 called the.

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Six Bit House. Oh, that's cute. It's so, I think

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it's so cute.

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They offered breakfast or dinner or a place to sleep

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for two bits, which is, I guess, 25 cents, it says.

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Okay. Or you could get all three for six bits.

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Okie dokie. Yeah, that's just math.

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Six bits. Yeah.

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I thought it was a little cheaper to get.

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No, they're not offering a discount.

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No, but it was called six bits. So it's just

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like such a cute, because that's what it costs. If

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you want breakfast, dinner. I like it. I'm all about it.

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And a place to sleep.

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And I would really like it if we could go

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back to old-timey hotel pricing, to be honest.

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Great. Oh, my God, I know. We could go everywhere

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and anywhere we wanted.

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Oh, can you imagine?

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For just six bits. Six bits. What about lunch, though?

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You know, I don't know.

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You'd do lunch on the road. These were traveling people. Fair.

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Fair.

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Yeah. 1850s Oregon.

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They're travelers. Oh, yeah. Big time.

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In 1883, Smith built the Wolf Creek Tavern in the

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classical revival style. We'll look at the hotel a little

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bit later. And if you don't know what that is,

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you can just like look at pictures or look at

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the pictures we post.

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I have not heard the term revival used so much. Like,

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But here's the thing I'm reading. It says colonial revival

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brings back early American and Georgian house designs. And I

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feel like that's kind of what it's looking at.

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Oh, okay.

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So it very much is going to look like all

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of the houses in that old Mel Gibson gem, The Patriot.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I haven't seen it, but I assume that sounds right.

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You know?

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Yeah. okay i hate to.

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Be this guy but you've never seen the patriot no

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oh my god sorry i've seen the other one he's

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in oh my god that mel gibson is in yeah

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what's that like the one that he's in with the

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face paint.

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And the yelling braveheart yeah i've seen braveheart okay like

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kind of the same thing.

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Not really Time period wise, I don't think that quite

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lines up. Certainly geographically, no. Also, when you say the

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other one, as if Mel Gibson was only in two movies,

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we could really get lost here. Danger. You in danger, girl.

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But we're not talking about that.

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In 1883, Smith built the Wolf Creek Tavern in the

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classical revival style. for stagecoach travelers and passengers of the

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new railroad. Back then, tavern meant a hotel that serves food.

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So it did not mean a bar.

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It definitely had a little bit different meaning.

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Yes, definitely. Yeah.

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And it's like you want to go to a hotel

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that has.

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Food, right? I mean, I know I do.

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Like a hostel, I think, would be like the thing

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that wouldn't serve food.

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It's like just a bed.

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Right.

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It would be like more of like a boarding house

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style situation.

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Wolf Creek Tavern became much more than just a place

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that served food. It was a place for guests to

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commiserate about their grueling travels, to catch up on the

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latest news, and to send letters to people they left.

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Behind or are heading towards. I know. It's just kind

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of like a hub.

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Yeah. stopping point along their.

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Travels yeah i mean you needed that back then because

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oh yeah i mean they don't call it the wild

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west for no reason.

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It was wild it was wild there's wolves everywhere right

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famously the wolves that you know were naming shit after

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Henry Smith also planted apple and pear orchards next to

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the tavern that are still there to this day hey

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so I thought that was really cool I bet They

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could probably make some.

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Really good cider. Oh, yeah. Just a suggestion, you know.

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I wonder what they do with it. I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Maybe they make a lot of like apple pies and stuff.

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Oh, my God. I mean, apple everything. Apple butter.

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Apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur. Yeah, exactly. From

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the wolves. There we go.

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Oh, my God.

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It all circles back. Everything connects.

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I mean, if you try hard enough.

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And we do.

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And we do. In 1922, guest numbers started to increase

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due to the Pacific Highway. And by then, married couple

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John and Dinky Dougal owned and operated the.

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Wolf Creek Tavern. I'm sorry.

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Come again?

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What?

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John and Dinky Dougal?

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And that's the wife's name?

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Yep, wife Dinky.

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I don't know if that's her, like, given name or

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if it's just, like, what she went by.

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There was not a lot of information.

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I was going to say.

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I didn't look her up because it's just, like, such

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a tiny thing.

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But I thought it was so cute. Dinky.

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Well, here's the thing. If I had parents that were,

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I would argue... A little bit cruel. And they named

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me Dinky. The last thing I'm going to do is

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marry and take the name of a man whose last

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name is Dougal.

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Dinky Dougal. I like it.

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I mean, it's kind of cute, but.

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And I bet Dinky didn't mean what it means now. Like,

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I don't know.

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I just there's no way to know. And that's lost

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to history.

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But it that's a that's a wild one.

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If someone else wants to do a research paper on

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Dinky Dougal for me, get on it. They added a

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guest wing, a kitchen, a semicircular driveway with promotional signage.

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Oh, my God. I love a semicircular driveway.

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And it was for like the stage coaches and stuff,

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you know, to like just draw them in. They changed

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the name to Wolf Creek Inn instead of Tavern just

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to be more clear because by that time i think

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things were changing.

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Yeah the terminology.

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Yeah and they advertised tasty cuisine on their sign which

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is still up today so it says wolf creek in

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and underneath it says tasty cuisine period.

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So cute i think it's so.

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Cute but they just like wanted people to know like

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hey come eat here we have food you need to

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stop because you're hungry because you're driving The Dougals were

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well known for their hospitality and chicken dinners. Their daughter, Jane,

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said in an article, quote, that the aroma from her

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mother Dinky's cooking in the kitchen brought the wolves to

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the yard. And she meant literally brought the fucking wolves

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to the yard.

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Because there were wolves.

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Right, right.

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And because of the large wolf population, guests had to

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use chamber pots overnight so that they didn't have to

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go outside to the outhouses and possibly encounter one of

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the wolves in the yard that came for Dinky's milkshake.

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Right.

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I was going to say she was a milkshakestress.

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But the last wolf that was seen near Wolf Creek

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Inn was in 1956. So if you go today, you

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don't really have to worry about that. Which is kind

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of sad because like we drove them out of their

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home and or like killed them off.

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Right.

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Yeah. I think Oregon, our wolf population is probably incredibly small.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's a quick jaunt over there to Yellowstone

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and then you can you can see them sometimes.

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They got wolfies over there. Yeah.

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I seen them.

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Ooh. I mean, that's cool, but like creepy and scary

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to see one in the wild.

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Yeah.

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Honestly, it's a lot scarier to see some of the

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like larger herbivores when you go to Yellowstone. At least

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that was my feeling. The park is so massive. And

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because the population of predators is like even in places

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like Yellowstone so far reduced, these bitches get massive. And

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at one point we're like driving through the park and

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I remember my aunt opening like the motorhome door. And

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it has like a screen to it still. But I'm like, uh,

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I don't think the screen is going to stop an

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animal that weighs as much as a fucking Honda Civic.

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Yeah, no, no. Just jump right through that, bitch.

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He might be coming aboard if you.

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Antlers first. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, God.

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Yeah. The size and shape of your door may change.

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It will be a moose-shaped or an elk-shaped hole in

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the wall. In the wall. Yeah.

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Literally.

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So our good buddies, the Dougles, ran the inn until 1935.

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And then I think another person owned it. I don't

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know if it went through like a couple different owners.

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It wasn't really clear. Wolf Creek Inn is the oldest

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continuously operating hotel in the Pacific Northwest.

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Wow.

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And of course, it was listed on the National Register

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of Historic Places in 1972. By 1975, Wolf Creek Inn

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was desperately in need of restoration. She was pretty old

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by then. The people who owned it at the time

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couldn't afford the massive cost. And the state of Oregon

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bought the property and fixed it up.

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Oh, wow.

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I think because it was on the National Historic, they

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were like, well, someone's got to do this.

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Right. Yeah. I mean, from a business perspective, though, like

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the margins on like particularly in like food. Like they

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can be really, really slim. And so like having a

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facility that needs like a massive renovation, like.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes it's like it just becomes insurmountable.

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I think it said it was like millions of dollars.

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Like it was it needed a lot.

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Yeah. Well, think about it. Like think how much like

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the code had to have changed at that point, you know, going.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah.

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Modern plumbing and electricity. There's so many things to take

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into consideration. Okay.

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So do you want to go just to the Wolf

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Creek Inn website and then you.

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Can see it? I thought you would never ask.

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It's exactly what the colonial revival... I pulled up a

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picture that looks so similar to this.

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Okay.

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So classical revival architecture encompasses various movements... inspired by the

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symmetric forms monumental columns which obviously were the columns right.

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The columns and it's like it painted white it kind

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of looks like the white house.

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And yeah it shows like a bunch of different like

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kind of periods where like it's kind of taking from

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all of these different types of architecture but it specifically

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says like federal slash adams style which is Essentially, like

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the late colonial era, it's like 1780 to 1830. So

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like very much still in that period. Because as soon

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as I Googled this, I was like, there is a house.

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I'm pretty sure in the Patriot that like it could

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be this house.

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I can see it.

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The exterior of the inn has a long double veranda

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with multiple entrance doors. Like a wraparound porch, but like

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on the top too.

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Yes.

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Yeah, the double veranda is, uh-huh.

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She's classy. I love a veranda, you know?

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Honestly.

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And I think the suite, I think they said it

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has its own private veranda.

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Ooh.

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So inside, the entryway has a central staircase that separates

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the men's and women's parlors.

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Ooh. Because of course they had men's and women's parlors separate.

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I mean, honestly, sometimes it feels like maybe certain things

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were better back in the day.

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I was going to say, I think these days they

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probably don't like you could probably go into either one

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of them.

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But yeah, I don't actually know for sure. Yeah. I

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don't think I don't think they can legally do that, though.

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Probably not.

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Men only.

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Men only.

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Yeah. In addition to the nine guest rooms, there's also

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a ballroom on the second floor. And that's now used

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for various parties, conferences, I think maybe weddings. They said

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they've had weddings there. But in the past, it has

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been set up with cots for people stranded in snowstorms.

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Oh, that's so sweet.

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I know.

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So like back in the day, like it was the hub,

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you know, for travelers. And if there was like a

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storm or whatever, everyone like, where are you going to go?

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You're going to go to the ballroom with your cot.

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No, quite literally. And it's funny because the first time

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that I drove to Klamath Falls, it started snowing when

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I was less than an hour out from where I

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was headed.

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And.

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Oof. I saw semis like pulled over, chaining up and stuff.

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And I'm like, OK, I hope I got this.

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Yeah, because it snows bad out there.

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It really can.

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It's not like it is here.

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Right. Well, and obviously like this area is a little

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bit further west from Klamath, but like that far south

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and just like how densely like forested and it's like

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so much of like the stretch that you're driving is

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just like very isolated. Like in terms of like the

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modern times, like that's, that's one of those areas where

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you're like, I don't want to like get stuck somewhere.

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And then back then, like, you know, have a cell

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phone or, you know, Chains for your buggy.

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I don't know what they... Your stagecoach.

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I think traditionally you just waited until spring.

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Yeah. Right.

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That was their version of chains.

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So I think it's interesting that it only has nine

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guest rooms. I'm not sure if that... I'm pretty sure

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it's been the same since back in the day. I

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don't know if they took out any rooms or.

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I can't imagine that they would.

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But it's still like a, it's a very small, it's

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kind of like a B & B now.

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Yeah.

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The Inn is also famous for its famous patrons. Jack London.

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I saw something. About Jack London.

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He's like the one who's most known for being here

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because he just like loved it there. He is the

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author of The Call of the Wild and White Fang,

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which I'm pretty sure I read both of those at

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some point in school, but I don't remember really.

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Just say it with confidence. You read them both in school.

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Possibly.

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And I'm not sure if I actually read White Thing

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or if I just like have heard enough about it

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that I just like know things about it.

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It's like kind of one of those iconic stories that

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you're like through osmosis almost. I just kind of have

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like the gist of it.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, so he loved to stay here and write, even

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spending a whole summer there with his wife, writing a

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short story called The End of the Story. And even

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finishing a novel, Valley of the Moon, which was published

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just three years before his death.

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Wow.

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Now I really want to read that.

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I know. Valley of the Moon.

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Like, it sounds pretty cool. And he was super inspired

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by the Pacific Northwest, I guess. That's kind of what

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I read in some of the articles and things. And

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he loved to, like, travel and hike around and just

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was very inspired. I mean... same by us because we

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nasty Jack London was you nasty his favorite room is

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now named after him and is set up much like

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it would have been when he stayed there oh.

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I love it when they do that I.

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Know Plus some modern upgrades. So it has heat, air

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conditioning and a private bathroom now. So like no more

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chamber pots or outhouses.

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That's I think for the best. I did also I

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kind of assumed because I saw kind of some of

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the amenities listed and it looks like the the inn

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now features electric car charging.

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So but they don't have TVs in the room. You

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can have Wi-Fi, but you can't have TVs. Sorry.

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I mean, if I've got Wi-Fi, I can just watch

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something on my iPad until I go sleepy time.

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Like it doesn't bother me at all.

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Like I'd rather just be out seeing things. And then

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like when I go to bed, either listen to a

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podcast or watch on my phone or something. The mountain

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over Wolf Creek is also named London Peak after Jack London.

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Well, I was just going to say, is it named

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after him?

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Yep.

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Wow. That's cool.

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So, yeah, that was like his place. Like he's like

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the most well-known.

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I mean, he made the website.

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He made the website. Oh, he made it from beyond

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the grave.

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But he is far from the only famous person to

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stay at the inn. Among others are Clark Gable, Carol Lombard.

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Orson Welles.

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Holy shit.

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Mary Pickford. Douglas Fairbanks. Which half these people, I don't know,

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but that's okay. I'm going to keep reading. President Rutherford B.

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Hayes. Okay. So we got a president up in there. Hello.

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Sinclair Lewis.

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Oh.

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And Sir Anthony Hopkins. Shut up. That was the most

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exciting to me. I was like, Hannibal stayed there. Let's go.

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I don't know who Sinclair Lewis is. Douglas Fairbanks, Carol Lombard,

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Mary Pickford. I don't know those people. I barely know

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who Orson Welles is. I've heard his name. I don't

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fucking know.

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Sinclair Lewis. He was an author. So, I mean, clearly

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this is. Yes. I mean, it's someplace that.

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A lot of writers like to go. Yeah. Yeah.

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He was an American novelist and a playwright. He died

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in 1951. So I'm not shocked that you're not super

493
00:25:42.980 --> 00:25:44.599
familiar with his work.

494
00:25:44.619 --> 00:25:46.640
Yeah, like I know most of these people are like

495
00:25:46.789 --> 00:25:50.710
older actors or writers or people that I may have

496
00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:54.460
like heard their name, but no clue really who they are.

497
00:25:55.109 --> 00:25:55.710
Yeah.

498
00:25:56.329 --> 00:25:59.519
I know the next person, though. John Wayne stayed there

499
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:04.599
in 1973 while filming Rooster Cogburn, the sequel to True Grit.

500
00:26:05.099 --> 00:26:09.160
Okay. Which, I don't know the movies, but I know

501
00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:11.200
a John Wayne when I see one.

502
00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:16.009
True Grit, I think, is kind of... I'm hard-pressed to

503
00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:18.890
come up with a title of a movie that he

504
00:26:19.269 --> 00:26:23.609
was in that's, like, bigger than that. Like, that's, like,

505
00:26:23.650 --> 00:26:24.529
what he's known for.

506
00:26:25.210 --> 00:26:26.450
Apparently, there was a sequel.

507
00:26:27.910 --> 00:26:30.690
Which I was I was unaware of that.

508
00:26:30.809 --> 00:26:34.670
I will admit the cast of Gunsmoke, a show that

509
00:26:34.710 --> 00:26:39.970
ran from 1955 to 1975, also stayed there many times

510
00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:43.880
while shooting in the nearby ghost town of Golden.

511
00:26:45.019 --> 00:26:49.319
Golden. I came across something about Golden recently.

512
00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:50.240
Oh, yeah.

513
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:54.130
Yeah. I don't know where I where I can't remember.

514
00:26:54.250 --> 00:26:57.519
Probably like something on Facebook. But it was talking about

515
00:26:57.579 --> 00:27:01.220
the ghost town and i was like oh hello.

516
00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:03.940
It is a ghost town um so now we're just

517
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.730
going to take a slight detour from our main topic

518
00:27:06.849 --> 00:27:09.150
and we're going to talk about the ghost town of

519
00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:13.190
golden it's now known as golden state heritage site so

520
00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:16.150
it's like it's on the national register of historic places

521
00:27:16.819 --> 00:27:20.079
It's in Medford, Oregon, about three miles east of Wolf

522
00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:23.279
Creek Inn. This was a mining town once home to

523
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:28.279
100 people with two churches and zero saloons.

524
00:27:30.099 --> 00:27:32.599
Okay, well, I feel like that ratio might be backwards.

525
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.539
Maybe you can tell what kind of town this was.

526
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:40.859
Very dry. Very dry town. Yeah, very dry.

527
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.529
Only four buildings are still standing. a church, a home,

528
00:27:45.549 --> 00:27:49.970
a shed, and a post office slash store. So those

529
00:27:50.029 --> 00:27:53.509
are the only structures still standing in Golden.

530
00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:55.799
Well, of course, one of them was going to be

531
00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:57.079
one of the two churches.

532
00:27:57.099 --> 00:28:00.319
I know, of course. Gotta be. So now it's a

533
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.500
ghost town, but does that mean it's haunted?

534
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:04.980
Uh, I'm going to go with yeah.

535
00:28:05.470 --> 00:28:09.829
Well, not necessarily. No, come on. But there are some

536
00:28:09.869 --> 00:28:12.769
spooky claims at this ghost town.

537
00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:13.990
Give me a break.

538
00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:17.910
It doesn't mean it's haunted, but it's probably haunted. Sure.

539
00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:24.200
We're talking about causation versus correlation. But the connection is

540
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.519
pretty freaking strong.

541
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.859
People mainly see like shadow figures in the buildings at night.

542
00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:34.640
And there's they say there's a spirit of a preacher there,

543
00:28:34.859 --> 00:28:38.720
which makes sense. I was kind of wondering, like, is

544
00:28:38.779 --> 00:28:41.700
he there because his church is still there, like his

545
00:28:41.779 --> 00:28:44.960
building or his church is not there anymore?

546
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.740
And he's like upset. Oh, I don't know. Couldn't tell you.

547
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.119
But Ghost Adventures also did an episode there. And I'm

548
00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.640
pretty sure they found like just a bunch of demons.

549
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:02.109
Oh, cool. Okay, so having the church and, you know,

550
00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:06.410
the priest haunting the place is apparently doing nothing to

551
00:29:06.450 --> 00:29:08.170
deter the demon activity.

552
00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:09.450
Well, no, because.

553
00:29:09.269 --> 00:29:12.269
Zach brings the demons with him everywhere he goes.

554
00:29:12.309 --> 00:29:15.750
Honestly, they're attached. They have to be. They are, for sure.

555
00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:20.849
The demonic activity that they find in every place ever,

556
00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:21.750
I feel like.

557
00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:26.430
It's not likely, you know, to just be there.

558
00:29:26.289 --> 00:29:26.829
On its own.

559
00:29:27.529 --> 00:29:30.900
All the time, forever, always. Everywhere.

560
00:29:32.380 --> 00:29:34.210
Seems unlikely, but OK.

561
00:29:35.289 --> 00:29:37.549
I do remember I watched this one a couple because

562
00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:39.349
I still watch it. I know I make fun of it,

563
00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:41.599
but it's like, you know, a love hate relationship. But

564
00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:44.500
I've seen this episode a few times and I think

565
00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:47.740
he gets possessed like in every episode.

566
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.460
But in this one, I'm like, I think he like

567
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.210
starts to feel possessed. But again. I don't know. I

568
00:29:55.349 --> 00:29:57.930
don't think that that's like just there naturally.

569
00:29:58.029 --> 00:30:00.849
So if you want to go explore it, if you

570
00:30:00.970 --> 00:30:02.690
I think you can go.

571
00:30:03.589 --> 00:30:05.559
Just don't be disrespectful. You know, don't be a dick.

572
00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:05.819
Right.

573
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.440
Yeah. Dick road.

574
00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:08.200
Don't be a dick.

575
00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:09.519
But definitely if you're ever.

576
00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:11.319
Going to go to any of these places I talk about,

577
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.039
please look before you go and just make sure you

578
00:30:14.059 --> 00:30:17.769
can and. I don't want to just encourage people to

579
00:30:17.809 --> 00:30:20.289
go to places because I talk about it and then

580
00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:20.769
you're not.

581
00:30:20.690 --> 00:30:25.730
Supposed to go there. You do your own research. Okay. Yeah.

582
00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:29.470
No, I think that's important because even if you're allowed

583
00:30:29.579 --> 00:30:33.519
to go, there might be conditions that you're not necessarily

584
00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:37.160
aware of unless you look into it. It might be

585
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.509
technically allowed, but it might not be super safe. Right.

586
00:30:41.849 --> 00:30:47.130
You know, unless you want to be joining the The

587
00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:48.029
cast there.

588
00:30:48.049 --> 00:30:49.289
Oh, right.

589
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.779
So Ghost Adventures also did an episode at Wolf Creek, too. Okay.

590
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.119
I don't know that episode very well. I'm sure I've

591
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:00.339
seen it, but I didn't.

592
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.900
Go rewatch it because it's it's not like super relevant.

593
00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:05.079
It's what it is.

594
00:31:05.700 --> 00:31:06.420
It's what it is.

595
00:31:07.430 --> 00:31:10.250
But we're going to go journey back over to the

596
00:31:10.289 --> 00:31:14.430
Wolf Creek Inn. So guests and staff have reported hearing

597
00:31:14.990 --> 00:31:19.240
footsteps in empty hallways or rooms. They've heard movement in

598
00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:23.059
empty parts of the building at night. Doors open and

599
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:29.319
close for no reason. Flickering lights. Some have felt sudden pressure, chills,

600
00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:31.920
or a strong sense that someone is in the room

601
00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:35.599
near them or watching them. People also say they have

602
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.829
unusually vivid dreams while staying there, which I'm interested in that.

603
00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:46.509
Ooh. I'm less interested in the pressure because that's already,

604
00:31:47.910 --> 00:31:50.670
you know, as a frequent migraine sufferer, pressure.

605
00:31:50.690 --> 00:31:52.609
Right.

606
00:31:52.630 --> 00:31:54.509
I feel like that's one you would experience for sure.

607
00:31:54.529 --> 00:31:54.609
Yeah.

608
00:31:55.190 --> 00:31:55.410
Yeah.

609
00:31:55.789 --> 00:31:55.990
Yeah.

610
00:31:56.210 --> 00:31:58.390
I mean, that was for sure the main thing at

611
00:31:58.450 --> 00:32:02.329
the Delaney house. It just felt like my brain was

612
00:32:02.430 --> 00:32:06.190
trying to escape through my skull while I was like

613
00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:11.150
simultaneously dizzy. So like the idea that people have specifically

614
00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:14.609
mentioned pressure, that really freaks me out.

615
00:32:14.890 --> 00:32:15.470
I know.

616
00:32:16.250 --> 00:32:19.809
I would have to, I honestly, I would probably have

617
00:32:19.849 --> 00:32:24.940
to watch the Ghost Hunters episode before going just to see.

618
00:32:25.970 --> 00:32:26.910
Just to see.

619
00:32:27.329 --> 00:32:30.549
Yeah. I mean, I've only watched a couple of episodes

620
00:32:30.650 --> 00:32:35.059
just like randomly over the years. Everything that I know

621
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.039
for the most part about the show is what I

622
00:32:38.059 --> 00:32:41.619
have heard other podcasts say about the show.

623
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.009
Yeah, I know.

624
00:32:43.309 --> 00:32:43.849
I know.

625
00:32:45.609 --> 00:32:48.099
I mostly, I just like to watch it, yeah, to see, like,

626
00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:51.059
the place and to hear the history.

627
00:32:51.259 --> 00:32:52.619
And usually they have.

628
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.839
Someone, like, associated with the land on there to talk

629
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:56.200
about it.

630
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.140
So that's what I like to watch it for. For sure.

631
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.259
Like, if anybody's got the connections to, like, meet with

632
00:33:02.299 --> 00:33:06.549
the right people, I would assume, you know, their production

633
00:33:06.589 --> 00:33:07.829
team has got it covered.

634
00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:13.049
So it's pretty much kind of your standard haunting stuff,

635
00:33:13.130 --> 00:33:18.690
you know? Apparitions have been sighted. Unexplained voices or mysterious

636
00:33:18.829 --> 00:33:22.289
piano playing have been heard. So they do the piano there,

637
00:33:22.430 --> 00:33:24.849
which is kind. I like that one. I would love

638
00:33:25.029 --> 00:33:27.849
to hear just like. I was just going to say.

639
00:33:28.210 --> 00:33:30.970
Phantom piano playing. Piano.

640
00:33:32.619 --> 00:33:35.200
It's just like the piano, but phantom.

641
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.160
Phantom. It's like when they rig the pianos to like play.

642
00:33:39.259 --> 00:33:40.460
Like a player piano.

643
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.019
I love those. They're so cute.

644
00:33:42.700 --> 00:33:46.460
Oh. Chairs will move on their own. Things might disappear

645
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.640
from tabletops. In the kitchen, staff have reported seeing the

646
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.240
same baking pan fly across the floor on multiple occasions.

647
00:33:54.740 --> 00:33:55.680
Oh, I don't like that.

648
00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:58.380
So it's like, is it just a haunted baking pan

649
00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:02.460
or does the ghost specifically like that baking pan?

650
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.339
Well, like maybe it was someone that worked there in

651
00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:08.469
the kitchen. You know, like that's what I think.

652
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.659
Maybe they're like, you're using the wrong pan. You gotta

653
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.929
use this one.

654
00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:15.079
Oh my God.

655
00:34:15.139 --> 00:34:19.820
It's like a backseat baker. It's dinky because she cooked.

656
00:34:21.130 --> 00:34:26.070
The entity of a female stagecoach driver is said to

657
00:34:26.309 --> 00:34:31.050
reside there. And I don't know how they know this,

658
00:34:31.210 --> 00:34:33.610
but it says she pretended to be a man in

659
00:34:33.730 --> 00:34:35.969
order to be allowed to drive the stagecoach.

660
00:34:37.070 --> 00:34:39.710
Because I guess that women weren't allowed.

661
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.079
I mean, I'm not going to lie.

662
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.659
That kind of makes sense.

663
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.420
Like women weren't allowed to do a lot of stuff

664
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.489
that it doesn't actually make sense.

665
00:34:52.869 --> 00:34:55.070
But that's just how it was.

666
00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:55.969
Yeah.

667
00:34:56.429 --> 00:34:57.670
I guess that makes sense.

668
00:34:58.469 --> 00:35:01.780
And I don't it didn't expand on any of that.

669
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.639
So I don't know how they they know that that happened.

670
00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:07.659
But I think it I do think it said that

671
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.699
she had passed away on the property. And that's how

672
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.150
they found out she was a woman.

673
00:35:12.170 --> 00:35:16.250
Oh, and it was like a shock. Yeah.

674
00:35:16.289 --> 00:35:20.150
So like very successfully hiding it. This is like a

675
00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:22.289
Mulan situation. Yeah.

676
00:35:22.329 --> 00:35:25.719
And they opened her up and they're like, oh, shit. Oh, boy.

677
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:26.119
It's a woman.

678
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:27.019
It's a woman.

679
00:35:27.730 --> 00:35:30.869
Her ghost has been seen on the main floor, seemingly

680
00:35:30.909 --> 00:35:32.309
waiting to give someone a ride.

681
00:35:32.829 --> 00:35:36.360
That's so sweet. She's still working. She's still working. She's

682
00:35:36.380 --> 00:35:39.420
a working woman. She loved her job. She pretended to

683
00:35:39.460 --> 00:35:42.219
be a man to have her job. Literally.

684
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.579
Hey, listen, they say love what you do and you

685
00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:48.389
never work a day in your life. They don't say

686
00:35:48.510 --> 00:35:51.110
anything about the afterlife, but.

687
00:35:52.070 --> 00:35:55.869
You do you live your best afterlife. Another entity of

688
00:35:55.929 --> 00:35:59.050
a young woman is seen in the Clark Gable room.

689
00:35:59.429 --> 00:35:59.610
Oh.

690
00:35:59.909 --> 00:36:02.230
So I don't know if she's like waiting for Clark

691
00:36:02.510 --> 00:36:08.869
or what. The entity of an older man is seen

692
00:36:09.050 --> 00:36:11.679
as well. And they think this could be one of

693
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:16.280
the former owners watching over the place. So maybe Henry,

694
00:36:16.460 --> 00:36:17.659
maybe John.

695
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.440
It was John, right? John and Dinky. Yeah.

696
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.159
Yeah. John and Dinky.

697
00:36:23.050 --> 00:36:25.070
Maybe one of those. Maybe one of the other owners.

698
00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:28.570
I like to think it's John and Dinky's in the kitchen.

699
00:36:28.849 --> 00:36:29.710
And I just love that.

700
00:36:30.630 --> 00:36:34.230
I mean, it would be kind of a bummer to

701
00:36:34.289 --> 00:36:38.940
have like been there working together essentially for like your

702
00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:41.519
whole lives. And then only one of you decides to

703
00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:42.800
haunt the place.

704
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.639
No, they're together. That's what I'm saying.

705
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:47.820
They got to be right.

706
00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:50.710
I just think that I don't know anything about them

707
00:36:50.849 --> 00:36:54.849
or know what's what. But I just think that they

708
00:36:55.050 --> 00:36:57.469
have the greatest love story of all time.

709
00:36:57.949 --> 00:37:00.800
And I just don't know what it is. I just

710
00:37:00.860 --> 00:37:01.639
feel it from them.

711
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:03.380
I feel it in my bones.

712
00:37:03.619 --> 00:37:08.139
I do. I don't know why. I love it. Okay.

713
00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:11.340
This one is weird. So bear with me. Okay.

714
00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:12.179
All right.

715
00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:16.820
They say the entity of a vampire like creature is there.

716
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.380
They think it might be like a woodland entity, like

717
00:37:21.619 --> 00:37:24.059
the fae, I assume that's what they mean by that.

718
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.340
Or a man with like mental health issues.

719
00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:28.360
Okay.

720
00:37:28.380 --> 00:37:31.159
Like people who think that they're vampires, you know, something

721
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.920
like that. Yeah, that's a thing. He has been seen

722
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.239
walking around the hotel. He has fangs and blood around

723
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:39.760
his mouth.

724
00:37:40.510 --> 00:37:40.989
Okay.

725
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:44.949
And one guest claimed to have been bitten. I, nope.

726
00:37:46.389 --> 00:37:50.349
It's unconfirmed, but someone claimed to have been bitten.

727
00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:51.250
Okay.

728
00:37:51.329 --> 00:37:56.079
Other than that, though, they say he's pretty well... It's

729
00:37:56.099 --> 00:37:56.719
just funny.

730
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.199
He's pretty well-dressed or pretty well-mannered.

731
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.030
Is that where we're going with this? Kind of, yeah.

732
00:38:07.070 --> 00:38:08.570
Because I think I beg to differ.

733
00:38:08.590 --> 00:38:13.969
Okay. Other than that, like the biting thing, they say

734
00:38:14.010 --> 00:38:15.730
he's generally well behaved.

735
00:38:15.869 --> 00:38:19.980
So he just kind of walks around with fangs and blood. Yeah, sure.

736
00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:22.719
They believe the other spirits might keep him in line.

737
00:38:23.179 --> 00:38:26.739
So like maybe the former owner or something watching over

738
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.070
the place, like don't bite the customers. Right.

739
00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:34.090
They were just out to lunch that one time. And so,

740
00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:38.219
you know, you hate to see it, but sometimes....

741
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.039
Obviously, that's a little out there.

742
00:38:41.059 --> 00:38:41.980
I'm not sure.

743
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:48.280
I'm not sure that I believe someone was actually bitten.

744
00:38:48.449 --> 00:38:51.369
Maybe they were. If you were, write in to us

745
00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:54.250
and let us know and we'll believe you totally. But

746
00:38:54.670 --> 00:38:57.090
I just don't have enough information, I think.

747
00:38:57.969 --> 00:39:02.650
Yeah, actually, if you could let us know, just so

748
00:39:04.110 --> 00:39:07.639
we don't make any plans that maybe we don't want

749
00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:08.039
to keep.

750
00:39:09.989 --> 00:39:12.210
No, I definitely don't want to scare anyone away from

751
00:39:12.289 --> 00:39:16.219
going there, though, either, because I get a good vibe

752
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:17.659
from it, even though I've never been there.

753
00:39:17.699 --> 00:39:19.440
And I feel like most people do.

754
00:39:19.460 --> 00:39:24.860
So, yeah, it definitely seems like overall, like I kind

755
00:39:24.909 --> 00:39:28.469
of have the same read on the place for whatever

756
00:39:28.510 --> 00:39:29.949
that's worth as someone who's never been there.

757
00:39:30.010 --> 00:39:33.090
Been there. Like you said, I feel like we can

758
00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:35.739
catch vibes from afar. You know, I think so.

759
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:36.900
I think so.

760
00:39:38.139 --> 00:39:41.780
Several EVPs have been recorded there by paranormal investigators.

761
00:39:42.860 --> 00:39:47.539
One of them said, yes. And I picture it saying, yes.

762
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:47.630
Yes.

763
00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:52.780
Yes! It's the girl in Clark Gable's room.

764
00:39:56.659 --> 00:40:00.679
Another EVP was caught as an answer to a statement.

765
00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:04.690
So a paranormal investigator named Madonna... She does have a

766
00:40:04.710 --> 00:40:06.210
last name. It's not the Madonna.

767
00:40:06.570 --> 00:40:11.989
Okay. So you anticipated my question. Yeah, I did. Okay, okay.

768
00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:14.059
Because I didn't put her last name in here and

769
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.260
I was like, people are going to get confused.

770
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.599
They're going to have questions. So it's not the Madonna.

771
00:40:20.619 --> 00:40:22.280
It's just a Madonna. Okay.

772
00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:27.000
I mean, maybe she is the Madonna. Maybe the other

773
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.679
Madonna is the pretender to the throne.

774
00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:31.739
You never know. You never know.

775
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:37.030
So Madonna said, I am at Wolf Creek Inn.

776
00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:40.230
And a voice responded, yes, you are.

777
00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:40.320
Wow.

778
00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:43.909
So it's just like cute EVPs. Like a lot of

779
00:40:43.949 --> 00:40:48.829
the EVPs we find are like, get out. Muses are

780
00:40:48.849 --> 00:40:50.050
just like, yes.

781
00:40:51.010 --> 00:40:54.929
Yes. Like the one, the really big hotel that we

782
00:40:54.949 --> 00:40:58.510
went up to. Oh, God, this is embarrassing. All of

783
00:40:58.570 --> 00:41:02.300
the people that are like listening for the paranormal are

784
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.920
so embarrassed of me right now. I feel like the

785
00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:08.519
name is right there. It's on the tip of my tongue.

786
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.420
I can't think of it. But when we went with

787
00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:15.840
Christina to Port Townsend and we went to that other

788
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:16.820
big hotel.

789
00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:18.820
Oh, the Manresa? Yes.

790
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:19.599
Oh, my God.

791
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:25.730
Manresa Castle? Yes. That one, holy hell. That one was spooky.

792
00:41:26.329 --> 00:41:28.989
The vibes were not immaculate.

793
00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:30.690
I'd stay there, but.

794
00:41:33.059 --> 00:41:35.800
I feel like you do so at your own peril.

795
00:41:35.820 --> 00:41:37.500
I want to sleep in the attic.

796
00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:43.800
You wouldn't even catch me sleeping in a tent out

797
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:48.000
on the front lawn by the fountain. Actually, that fountain

798
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.550
out front is where I got like some of the

799
00:41:50.809 --> 00:41:53.110
absolute scariest EVPs.

800
00:41:53.869 --> 00:41:56.989
They're not technically EVPs. You were using a like a

801
00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:58.389
spirit box situation.

802
00:41:58.530 --> 00:41:58.789
Yeah.

803
00:41:58.949 --> 00:41:59.269
Okay.

804
00:41:59.530 --> 00:41:59.750
Yeah.

805
00:42:00.269 --> 00:42:03.650
Because the EVP is like Just to just to distinguish

806
00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:06.949
for people who may not know is an electronic voice

807
00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:10.860
phenomenon where you hear like an actual voice. And then

808
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.179
like what you were using with like a spirit box

809
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.840
thing is like it switches. It just like says random

810
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.420
words or like switches through radio stations. But I think

811
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.730
the one you had just said random words, random quote

812
00:42:23.789 --> 00:42:26.039
in quotes, the spirits manipulate it.

813
00:42:26.469 --> 00:42:28.300
I was going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should

814
00:42:28.340 --> 00:42:30.840
explain it for people that don't know. Because, like, I

815
00:42:30.940 --> 00:42:36.079
totally do. I know all of this backwards and forwards. But, like,

816
00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:39.550
you know. I mean, just in case anybody listening doesn't know.

817
00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:40.730
Just in case.

818
00:42:41.210 --> 00:42:42.369
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

819
00:42:42.829 --> 00:42:44.130
Okay, so this one's funny.

820
00:42:45.730 --> 00:42:49.449
There was another paranormal group there that recorded an EVP

821
00:42:49.489 --> 00:42:50.530
of a woman singing.

822
00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:54.079
Which is cool. That's not the funny one. And another

823
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.099
of someone sang Beulah.

824
00:42:57.269 --> 00:42:58.050
Beulah.

825
00:42:58.469 --> 00:42:59.369
Beulah.

826
00:42:59.789 --> 00:43:02.329
And all I can think about is that 70s show

827
00:43:03.309 --> 00:43:07.630
when they find out Jackie's middle name and they're like

828
00:43:07.650 --> 00:43:10.010
looking through the school records and they see her middle

829
00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:11.260
name and she's like.

830
00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:12.500
Don't tell.

831
00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.019
And they're like, Beulah.

832
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.679
Beulah.

833
00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:18.320
Jackie Beulah Burkhart.

834
00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:19.119
Anyway.

835
00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:22.199
Like that has a ring to it. Let's be real.

836
00:43:22.780 --> 00:43:25.039
I like it. I think Beulah is a cool name,

837
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:26.099
but it's just the funny.

838
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.840
They said it like it's like the most disgusting thing

839
00:43:28.889 --> 00:43:30.110
they've ever heard.

840
00:43:30.570 --> 00:43:30.869
I know.

841
00:43:31.050 --> 00:43:35.730
Like, I feel like Beulah does not equal like Bertha,

842
00:43:35.750 --> 00:43:39.349
you know, like I feel like Beulah is actually very pretty.

843
00:43:39.369 --> 00:43:40.489
I think so, too.

844
00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:44.610
Maybe that's one of the ghosties names or something. Also,

845
00:43:44.650 --> 00:43:46.369
the woman singing is cute.

846
00:43:46.889 --> 00:43:50.989
I could see that with the piano playing. I like it.

847
00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:51.730
It's comforting.

848
00:43:51.869 --> 00:43:53.309
Serenade me.

849
00:43:55.349 --> 00:43:58.070
So overall, guests and staff say the spirits don't give

850
00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:01.409
bad vibes. And most of what happens is just kind

851
00:44:01.449 --> 00:44:08.710
of friendly mischief. I'm not sure about that vampire guy, but... Yeah, yeah.

852
00:44:09.030 --> 00:44:16.500
That may have been an isolated and completely... explainable phenomenon. Yeah.

853
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.599
Maybe Zach left him there.

854
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.179
Well, you know.

855
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:25.110
I don't know if it's pre-Ghost Adventures or not.

856
00:44:25.929 --> 00:44:29.349
Yeah, I mean, at the risk of being sued, I

857
00:44:29.369 --> 00:44:31.110
would just like to say that I think, you know,

858
00:44:31.590 --> 00:44:35.579
Zach has to be responsible about, you know, what he

859
00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:39.139
is bringing in and making sure he's taking it back

860
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:40.599
out because I think.

861
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:40.820
A lot of.

862
00:44:42.889 --> 00:44:47.130
Personal responsibility, accountability. Come on.

863
00:44:47.530 --> 00:44:49.030
Don't leave your trash behind.

864
00:44:49.510 --> 00:44:49.969
Exactly.

865
00:44:49.989 --> 00:44:51.030
Your demonic trash.

866
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:52.179
Yeah.

867
00:44:53.219 --> 00:44:56.679
Okay, so during Halloween season, the inn goes all out

868
00:44:56.739 --> 00:45:03.079
with decorations, including Halloween-themed bedspreads and other treats in guest rooms.

869
00:45:03.460 --> 00:45:05.980
So I don't know what the other treats are, but

870
00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:07.960
I assume it's a bag of candy.

871
00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:10.219
I would like to find out.

872
00:45:11.250 --> 00:45:15.110
I know. So we have to go during Halloween time. Okay.

873
00:45:15.630 --> 00:45:16.630
Twist my arm.

874
00:45:17.210 --> 00:45:22.429
And they like fully decorate like skeletons everywhere, webs, like everything,

875
00:45:22.889 --> 00:45:25.769
the whole property. And there is still a restaurant there

876
00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:28.650
with tasty cuisine that you can go to if you're

877
00:45:28.690 --> 00:45:31.429
not even if you're not staying there, as well as

878
00:45:31.489 --> 00:45:32.639
self-guided tours.

879
00:45:33.010 --> 00:45:35.539
So those are both available to anyone who comes. You

880
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:36.460
don't have to rent a room.

881
00:45:37.539 --> 00:45:40.619
And they sometimes have a free 50 minute tour guided

882
00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:41.980
by a park ranger as well.

883
00:45:42.489 --> 00:45:43.929
I saw the photo.

884
00:45:44.389 --> 00:45:47.510
Check the website for times and things of when those

885
00:45:47.550 --> 00:45:48.130
are happening.

886
00:45:48.389 --> 00:45:48.989
Yeah.

887
00:45:49.369 --> 00:45:50.750
I know I want to go on like I love

888
00:45:50.789 --> 00:45:52.869
a self-guided tour, but I do want to go on.

889
00:45:52.849 --> 00:45:54.690
A like a guided tour as well. Like I kind

890
00:45:54.710 --> 00:45:55.969
of want a little bit of both.

891
00:45:56.389 --> 00:45:56.650
Yeah.

892
00:45:56.730 --> 00:45:59.849
You know, like I want to go and explore and

893
00:45:59.889 --> 00:46:03.230
just like check out the vibe for myself but i

894
00:46:03.309 --> 00:46:07.389
do like to have like the info and be guided and.

895
00:46:08.210 --> 00:46:11.659
Yeah and uh that's all i have for the wolf

896
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:20.860
creek inn yes yes if we go there i'm bringing

897
00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:24.940
a recorder and we better catch the yes ghost.

898
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.929
We would have to i don't know where it is

899
00:46:29.070 --> 00:46:31.010
I don't know if you have it or I have it.

900
00:46:31.489 --> 00:46:34.030
It's somewhere we would have to get like our.

901
00:46:34.190 --> 00:46:37.130
Oh, yeah, we have a recorder. Oh, I was I was.

902
00:46:37.070 --> 00:46:38.769
Thinking of the EMF reader.

903
00:46:38.789 --> 00:46:39.369
Oh, yeah.

904
00:46:39.409 --> 00:46:42.050
Like we would for sure like need to, you know,

905
00:46:42.869 --> 00:46:45.789
dig up what we have and then maybe acquire some

906
00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:46.909
more equipment.

907
00:46:47.289 --> 00:46:48.889
So some more legit equipment.

908
00:46:49.469 --> 00:46:50.239
Yeah. Yeah.

909
00:46:50.489 --> 00:46:52.699
But we do have a recorder. I do remember that.

910
00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:53.719
We do.

911
00:46:53.739 --> 00:47:01.730
Yeah, we did it. We used it at the White Eagle. Oh, yeah. God,

912
00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:04.489
where did that go? I don't think I have that.

913
00:47:04.570 --> 00:47:05.710
It's in my room somewhere.

914
00:47:06.309 --> 00:47:08.190
Okay, I was going to say, I think you have that.

915
00:47:08.210 --> 00:47:12.179
It's either in my room somewhere or it's in your

916
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:12.889
room somewhere.

917
00:47:12.909 --> 00:47:15.460
It's not in my room somewhere.

918
00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:17.719
Yeah, you just did organizing.

919
00:47:17.780 --> 00:47:19.659
So I think I have a little bucket with like

920
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:23.699
my podcast things, ghosty things in it.

921
00:47:23.699 --> 00:47:27.219
Or we can literally just, there's like memo apps and

922
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:28.300
stuff for your iPhone.

923
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:29.059
Yeah. Yeah.

924
00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:29.420
Yeah.

925
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:30.619
Things like that, too.

926
00:47:31.420 --> 00:47:34.480
But I feel like people nowadays probably do record a

927
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:36.449
lot on their phones with like the voice memos.

928
00:47:36.590 --> 00:47:37.820
So I don't know.

929
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.090
I mean, it can't hurt to have like more than one. Right.

930
00:47:44.289 --> 00:47:49.190
That's what I'm saying. Because like even in close proximity,

931
00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:53.269
I feel like you might pick up like slightly different things.

932
00:47:53.429 --> 00:47:54.110
I don't know. Yeah.

933
00:47:54.650 --> 00:47:56.230
Because they are kind of quiet, too.

934
00:47:56.250 --> 00:47:56.309
So.

935
00:47:56.389 --> 00:47:56.670
Yeah.

936
00:47:57.090 --> 00:47:57.409
Yeah.

937
00:47:58.019 --> 00:47:58.500
Sometimes.

938
00:47:58.880 --> 00:47:59.440
Yeah, yeah.

939
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.039
I mean, not every time, but sometimes.

940
00:48:01.059 --> 00:48:03.400
It'd be really cool to catch like the same EVP

941
00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:04.800
on multiple different recorders.

942
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.929
That would be really cool. That would be, yeah.

943
00:48:07.949 --> 00:48:11.289
Because then it's like, okay, well, both of these devices

944
00:48:11.349 --> 00:48:14.889
picked up the same thing. It's like that become, I

945
00:48:14.929 --> 00:48:17.769
feel like that becomes kind of stronger, you know?

946
00:48:18.969 --> 00:48:23.130
We're just like dreaming about future ghost hunting evidence. Exactly.

947
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.179
Okay, well, I don't have my tarot deck because I'm

948
00:48:28.219 --> 00:48:29.010
an idiot.

949
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:31.730
I knew you were going to say that.

950
00:48:32.170 --> 00:48:34.590
Also, my cute ghost is still there, I think. I

951
00:48:34.610 --> 00:48:36.550
feel like that's what I would use if I was

952
00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:43.909
going to pick one. Okay, so we're doing tarot with

953
00:48:43.929 --> 00:48:45.650
the cute ghosty deck.

954
00:48:47.610 --> 00:48:49.980
Okay. That was a really good shuffle.

955
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:50.800
Look at that.

956
00:48:50.820 --> 00:48:51.099
That was.

957
00:48:51.619 --> 00:48:56.349
Ooh. Okay, so you spread them out by your keyboard, right? Mm-hmm.

958
00:48:57.510 --> 00:49:00.429
I was thinking W for wolf.

959
00:49:02.349 --> 00:49:05.710
Oh, that's funny. There's one that's like perfectly aligned and

960
00:49:05.769 --> 00:49:08.190
it's kind of like, it's kind of sticking out.

961
00:49:08.530 --> 00:49:14.179
It's the one. Okay. Oh, six of cups. Aw, cute.

962
00:49:14.739 --> 00:49:16.110
Does it have like a couple in it?

963
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.269
It kind of looks like it does. It's like they're

964
00:49:19.289 --> 00:49:19.949
all like love.

965
00:49:20.230 --> 00:49:23.050
Oh it's john and dinky i told you guys i

966
00:49:23.070 --> 00:49:25.210
picked up a vibe.

967
00:49:24.750 --> 00:49:34.320
So our keywords are nostalgia obviously okay emotional renewal for

968
00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:36.860
a second i thought it said revival that was just

969
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:42.949
still in my head happiness and harmony oh i love.

970
00:49:42.750 --> 00:49:46.489
All of that also like harmony with the the singing

971
00:49:46.530 --> 00:49:47.429
in the piano i.

972
00:49:47.429 --> 00:49:51.329
Don't know yes oh my.

973
00:49:50.489 --> 00:49:53.750
God emotional renewal though kind of just like gives me

974
00:49:53.789 --> 00:49:57.679
the vibe of them re like re renovating the.

975
00:49:57.570 --> 00:50:00.980
Yeah you know and it also kind of makes me

976
00:50:01.099 --> 00:50:05.079
think of like that like we talked about there's like

977
00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:07.679
multiple famous authors that.

978
00:50:07.619 --> 00:50:09.579
Have stayed there oh Yeah.

979
00:50:09.619 --> 00:50:11.659
And it's kind of like that's where they go to like.

980
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:16.139
It's like a retreat. Yes. It's like kind of also

981
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.699
in a way, I don't know, like creative revival and

982
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.139
just sort of like restoring your juices.

983
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:23.239
I love that.

984
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.090
This joyful card sometimes shows two children in a garden.

985
00:50:28.829 --> 00:50:34.050
It represents reflecting on a time of innocence, contentment and beauty.

986
00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:38.739
When it shows up, it indicates you're revisiting pleasant memories

987
00:50:38.900 --> 00:50:42.519
and good times. Knowing that you have been happy in

988
00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:46.840
the past can enhance your ability to be happy in

989
00:50:46.860 --> 00:50:52.780
the future, especially if you've undergone a painful experience recently.

990
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.449
This makes me think of Handbook for the Recently Deceased.

991
00:50:57.690 --> 00:50:58.530
Oh, kind of.

992
00:50:58.630 --> 00:51:00.739
Yeah, like that's where they're going to go.

993
00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:01.659
Right?

994
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:01.760
Yeah.

995
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.019
Like this is a place where you have all of

996
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:08.760
these happy memories and maybe like kind of being there

997
00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.880
for a time like helps you just sort of like

998
00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:13.800
move to the next.

999
00:51:14.059 --> 00:51:16.260
Yeah. A card of.

1000
00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:20.780
Emotional renewal, perhaps after a time of unhappiness, the Six

1001
00:51:20.860 --> 00:51:24.820
of Cups represents a willingness to share joy with others.

1002
00:51:26.250 --> 00:51:29.750
You eagerly give of yourself and receive the good things

1003
00:51:30.030 --> 00:51:35.239
life offers. Through your actions, you express love and caring

1004
00:51:35.340 --> 00:51:38.420
to people you know and to the things you value.

1005
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:43.039
It is the doogles because they were known for like

1006
00:51:43.059 --> 00:51:44.639
their hospitality.

1007
00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:48.420
I'm just saying like it's definitely giving that vibe.

1008
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:50.340
I love this.

1009
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.789
Oh, this is interesting. In a reading about money, this

1010
00:51:54.889 --> 00:51:59.829
card suggests an upswing in your finances, perhaps after a

1011
00:51:59.909 --> 00:52:04.349
loss or time of limitation. So I feel like that

1012
00:52:04.409 --> 00:52:10.260
kind of speaks to like the building, like the physical space. Yeah.

1013
00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:15.619
It can represent a joint venture in which you share

1014
00:52:15.739 --> 00:52:21.099
expenses and profits with others. Sometimes it indicates a debt repaid.

1015
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:27.280
Well, that's like The state of Oregon is like sharing

1016
00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:31.760
their profits with like all of us by redoing the

1017
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:33.590
building and opening it again.

1018
00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:36.929
Oh, this is funny. This makes me think of the

1019
00:52:36.989 --> 00:52:39.869
stagecoach driver that you talked about.

1020
00:52:39.889 --> 00:52:40.630
Oh, okay.

1021
00:52:41.489 --> 00:52:44.630
If the reading is about your job, the six upright

1022
00:52:44.769 --> 00:52:48.360
shows renewed enthusiasm for your work. Yeah.

1023
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.420
Renewed after death. Right?

1024
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.730
Perhaps a change offers you more creativity or an improved

1025
00:52:58.909 --> 00:53:03.230
work environment. Developing new skills can benefit you now. So

1026
00:53:04.329 --> 00:53:08.809
like maybe by day, she's a stagecoach driver, but she's

1027
00:53:08.889 --> 00:53:11.530
also like learning coding.

1028
00:53:11.550 --> 00:53:13.539
Maybe.

1029
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.539
We don't know what she's up to. Nobody knows. Yeah.

1030
00:53:18.389 --> 00:53:21.889
In a reading about love, this card shows you're overcoming

1031
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:26.739
problems in a relationship and renewing positive feelings for one another.

1032
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.599
Sometimes the Six of Cups can mean reconnecting with a

1033
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:32.980
past lover.

1034
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:34.099
Aww.

1035
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:40.409
I kind of feel like you're overcoming death and you

1036
00:53:40.429 --> 00:53:43.690
are renewing the positive feelings in this place that you

1037
00:53:43.710 --> 00:53:44.409
shared together.

1038
00:53:44.429 --> 00:53:45.110
I don't know.

1039
00:53:45.130 --> 00:53:48.369
Oh, man. It's interesting, too, that like Jack London is

1040
00:53:48.429 --> 00:53:51.929
seen there because obviously he didn't die there. But like

1041
00:53:51.989 --> 00:53:54.630
that was like one of his favorite places. So he's

1042
00:53:54.670 --> 00:53:56.630
going to, you know, come back and visit.

1043
00:53:56.889 --> 00:54:02.070
I mean, it just makes sense. There is an extra excerpt.

1044
00:54:02.750 --> 00:54:03.710
Okay.

1045
00:54:04.170 --> 00:54:11.480
Just in case you needed any reinforcement about Dinky and John.

1046
00:54:11.500 --> 00:54:13.920
Oh, I'm so excited.

1047
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:20.099
The extra excerpt says, symbol of a kiss. The six

1048
00:54:20.179 --> 00:54:24.300
of cups in the Rider-Waite-Smith deck shows a large cup

1049
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.980
resting on a pillar decorated with an X. X is

1050
00:54:30.019 --> 00:54:34.380
the Norse rune for love and a symbol we use.

1051
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.159
For a kiss. Aww, I don't think I ever knew that.

1052
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:38.940
That's pretty cool.

1053
00:54:39.619 --> 00:54:40.659
I didn't either.

1054
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.820
We learn something new every day. Tarot's useful.

1055
00:54:44.929 --> 00:54:49.510
I'm just saying. Well, and then like, truthfully, like I

1056
00:54:49.570 --> 00:54:52.570
feel like a lot of the cards just based on

1057
00:54:52.610 --> 00:54:55.599
the imagery and like as many times as we have

1058
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.679
done tarot readings now at this point, and we both

1059
00:54:58.820 --> 00:55:02.900
already loved tarot. But the one thing that we've kind

1060
00:55:02.940 --> 00:55:06.699
of taken away is that like the different manuals and

1061
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:11.300
stuff that we read the interpretations and everything. you just

1062
00:55:11.380 --> 00:55:15.570
pick up on so many, like, especially in this like

1063
00:55:15.619 --> 00:55:17.969
kind of like the, we call it the big book,

1064
00:55:18.530 --> 00:55:22.730
you know, there's so many little extra excerpts or there's

1065
00:55:22.750 --> 00:55:27.030
so many little bits of insight in it that like

1066
00:55:27.070 --> 00:55:31.150
we really have learned so many different things. And like

1067
00:55:31.190 --> 00:55:35.469
we've learned to kind of interpret and parse things out

1068
00:55:35.829 --> 00:55:40.719
in a way that I definitely wouldn't have when we

1069
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:41.800
first started the show.

1070
00:55:42.300 --> 00:55:44.179
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

1071
00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:44.460
Yeah.

1072
00:55:45.260 --> 00:55:49.539
That book's been very helpful, I think. Yeah. I know.

1073
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:53.239
And I'm always on the hunt for like, you know,

1074
00:55:53.780 --> 00:55:57.289
because and we joke about it. We get like some

1075
00:55:57.309 --> 00:56:01.090
of the same cards like over and over again. We've

1076
00:56:01.110 --> 00:56:05.610
gotten them obviously several times. As many episodes as we've done.

1077
00:56:06.469 --> 00:56:10.630
It's not like we've gotten every single card in the deck, though. Right.

1078
00:56:10.710 --> 00:56:11.469
Not at all.

1079
00:56:12.530 --> 00:56:15.530
And like, obviously, statistically, I think, you know, we probably

1080
00:56:15.570 --> 00:56:17.670
have to do a couple million more to be able

1081
00:56:17.710 --> 00:56:20.250
to actually get every single card in the deck.

1082
00:56:20.369 --> 00:56:20.829
But I.

1083
00:56:22.369 --> 00:56:28.429
Think expanding and kind of having different interpretation manuals to

1084
00:56:28.469 --> 00:56:33.519
like help us as we continue to like look at

1085
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.599
the same cards again or look at even new cards

1086
00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:39.699
really interesting to just kind of get like kind of

1087
00:56:39.739 --> 00:56:43.590
a different read or interpretation on some of them so.

1088
00:56:43.530 --> 00:56:45.369
Yeah if anyone knows a good.

1089
00:56:45.210 --> 00:56:49.090
Book yes we're fishing just a little bit.

1090
00:56:50.730 --> 00:56:52.469
I love that we got a card that we haven't

1091
00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:55.090
really gotten before like we might have gotten it but

1092
00:56:55.150 --> 00:56:58.349
it's not one that's like super familiar so that was nice.

1093
00:56:58.900 --> 00:57:03.139
If we've gotten it before, I don't recall. And I

1094
00:57:03.260 --> 00:57:06.530
don't recall reading that extra excerpt. So I don't think

1095
00:57:06.550 --> 00:57:07.949
we've gotten that one before.

1096
00:57:07.969 --> 00:57:10.090
And it is interesting.

1097
00:57:10.110 --> 00:57:13.349
Like we always say, like, it really is like we

1098
00:57:13.369 --> 00:57:15.349
were having good vibes about this.

1099
00:57:15.429 --> 00:57:16.889
And then we got like that card.

1100
00:57:16.929 --> 00:57:18.719
And then when we do true crime, like we get

1101
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.579
the same like bad vibe to cards.

1102
00:57:22.269 --> 00:57:24.150
Yeah, we do get a lot of the same cards

1103
00:57:24.269 --> 00:57:24.730
on those.

1104
00:57:25.369 --> 00:57:26.670
It's interesting.

1105
00:57:26.769 --> 00:57:30.710
It's interesting. Although we've had a couple of like, I

1106
00:57:30.909 --> 00:57:34.000
know that I've turned to you like when we've been

1107
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:36.400
doing the tarot reading for a true crime episode and

1108
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.739
I've been like, there is no way. There's no way

1109
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:45.050
we got this like, and I know just enough about

1110
00:57:45.170 --> 00:57:48.210
like the deck at this point that I'm like, there's

1111
00:57:48.269 --> 00:57:51.269
no way this card is just like it's too over

1112
00:57:51.329 --> 00:57:52.670
the top positive.

1113
00:57:52.750 --> 00:57:53.369
Like what?

1114
00:57:54.269 --> 00:57:57.340
And then it turns out like as we read the interpretation,

1115
00:57:57.510 --> 00:58:01.079
it's like, well, that that has more to do with

1116
00:58:01.460 --> 00:58:05.139
like someone specifically connected to the case. And now I

1117
00:58:05.179 --> 00:58:06.159
see why we got it.

1118
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:07.039
Yeah.

1119
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:11.000
There have been some where I have been like, OK,

1120
00:58:11.019 --> 00:58:14.809
can we just like delete that? And can we just

1121
00:58:14.829 --> 00:58:18.090
like redraw? Because like, I feel like there's no way

1122
00:58:18.130 --> 00:58:21.460
that's right. And then when we like see it through

1123
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.579
and we actually read the interpretation, I have been just like, wow,

1124
00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:28.739
I don't think I could have been more wrong. And

1125
00:58:29.179 --> 00:58:30.929
kind of in a way, like shame on me.

1126
00:58:30.949 --> 00:58:35.150
I know, right? Which we've never done that.

1127
00:58:35.210 --> 00:58:37.070
Like we've never pulled a card and just like had

1128
00:58:37.110 --> 00:58:40.010
to redo except for one time, but we recorded it.

1129
00:58:40.969 --> 00:58:44.260
And it was the time I was sick, like super sick.

1130
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:48.239
And I pulled like just the opposite of what this is.

1131
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:52.719
And I was like, this is so wrong. Like something

1132
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:54.800
has to be wrong. And we're like, oh, it's because

1133
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.400
I'm like, I had COVID.

1134
00:58:57.420 --> 00:58:59.590
Yeah, you were so sick.

1135
00:59:01.389 --> 00:59:06.030
And your witchy skills don't work as good when you're sick. Right.

1136
00:59:06.469 --> 00:59:08.650
But like in a way, the fact that you pull

1137
00:59:08.690 --> 00:59:12.579
like kind of the polar opposite opposite, like even that,

1138
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:14.900
like to me, like I still kind of I'm like,

1139
00:59:15.260 --> 00:59:19.179
you know what? There's a takeaway in that in a sense, too. Like,

1140
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:20.260
I don't know.

1141
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.070
Yeah, I just remember that one was so sad.

1142
00:59:23.190 --> 00:59:25.570
And we just pulled like the two of cups, I think,

1143
00:59:25.630 --> 00:59:28.289
or something like the happiest of happy cards.

1144
00:59:28.849 --> 00:59:29.449
Yeah.

1145
00:59:30.750 --> 00:59:32.829
And maybe there's things that we don't know.

1146
00:59:32.849 --> 00:59:33.969
Maybe.

1147
00:59:34.010 --> 00:59:35.449
Maybe there's things we don't know.

1148
00:59:35.650 --> 00:59:36.730
But, yeah.

1149
00:59:37.949 --> 00:59:42.250
No, I remember that. And we were like, we simply must, like,

1150
00:59:42.570 --> 00:59:45.969
let's draw another one just to get a little bit, like,

1151
00:59:46.030 --> 00:59:48.989
we say deeper insight. Let's go deeper.

1152
00:59:49.010 --> 00:59:49.550
Deeper.

1153
00:59:49.670 --> 00:59:50.590
Deeper.

1154
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.320
But then it was like very obviously okay like this

1155
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.800
is the card this is the one yeah so go

1156
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:01.920
back and listen to that one it was the uh

1157
01:00:02.739 --> 01:00:07.239
iron goat trail oh a million years ago about the

1158
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.889
the train crash.

1159
01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:14.250
The train crash i'm so glad you remembered because i

1160
01:00:14.329 --> 01:00:18.699
remember all of Like, I remember all of those details,

1161
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.840
but gone to my head, I would not be able

1162
01:00:21.860 --> 01:00:24.139
to tell you what episode it was. So, I mean.

1163
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.260
Or it didn't crash. It was an avalanche. Yeah.

1164
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.380
I was going to say it was... I feel like

1165
01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:31.920
derailment is maybe more.

1166
01:00:31.940 --> 01:00:33.480
Yeah, derailed by an avalanche.

1167
01:00:33.940 --> 01:00:34.159
Yeah.

1168
01:00:34.300 --> 01:00:38.719
It was very sad. Well, should we say goodbye to

1169
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:44.949
the people? Probably. The creepiest people? Creepiest of people. Have

1170
01:00:45.010 --> 01:00:48.230
a creepy ass day. We'll see you next Thursday.

1171
01:00:50.190 --> 01:00:52.449
Which I was going to say, so you can't get

1172
01:00:52.489 --> 01:00:55.030
it out of your head like I can't, which is

1173
01:00:55.110 --> 01:00:55.690
why we.

1174
01:00:56.510 --> 01:00:58.409
Wow. Did I just have a malfunction?