Escaped Convict vs. Beer Empire: The Abduction of Adolf Coors III

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Later that morning as a milkman out on deliveries approached the bridge, he realized that his path was blocked by an international travel all station wagon.

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Pretty fancy vehicle, but the milkman had places to be. People to see, milk to deliver.

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Gotta get that milk.

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That's right, so he honestly found this kind of annoying. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, um, this is like a one lane bridge.

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So...

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He honked, but the vehicle appeared to be abandoned.

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Hi Cassie.

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Hi Caitlyn.

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Hi creepy people.

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Hello!

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This is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, spooky things, we're heading into spooky season!

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We are there!

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And just generally all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. PNW, if you're nasty.

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And you are the nastiest, you know, we didn't say that last episode, we forgot.

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Yeah.

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So bad. It sounded me forget things.

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It is really sad. It is really sad.

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It happens on the daily.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm forgetting things all the time.

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You know what we never forget?

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What? To do a tarot reading at the end of the episode, which we do in every episode?

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For just a little deeper insight into our topic. For the list? So true.

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So true.

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How could you forget tarot?

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I just, I don't even know. I can't fathom.

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You can't forget.

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No.

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Never forget.

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Yes.

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It's a sad thing.

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Oh man. Yeah, please don't hashtag anything that you're tagging us in with never forget.

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Yeah, I feel like that's probably a very different audience.

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A little problematic.

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Potentially.

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I'm just saying I think that probably those, it's just a different demographic possibly.

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Yeah.

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Kind of the misuse of that term is problematic.

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So we never said it.

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Never happens.

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Yeah.

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We cut it out of the set of soon and it's gone.

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Anyway.

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You know what I want to forget?

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Probably what you're about to talk about.

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Oh yeah, no, definitely.

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So about that.

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So let it rip so that I can forget.

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Does that kind of rhyme?

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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I like it.

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Well, we ended up going to October fest down in Bend.

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And you're not even going to believe how unintentionally perfect the two cases that I've been working on kind of worked out to be.

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Oh, for heading into spooky season.

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Oh, okay.

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I thought you were saying something October festy.

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Yes.

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Oh, it is.

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It's actually it's the perfect marriage and the timing couldn't have been better.

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So I guess.

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No, I'm not going to say thank you, COVID.

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Yeah, don't do that.

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But yeah, no, the timing is perfect because this is I think going to be our first episode for October.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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Starting it off right.

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But we went to October fest at the McMenamins down in Bend.

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And I was like, oh, this is going to probably come out around that same time.

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Sweet.

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Weird.

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It's oddly appropriate.

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Okay.

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Today, I'm going to tell you about a disappearance that took place in the 1960s.

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Okay.

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Which is probably going to make these next few paragraphs seem kind of confusing.

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But I mean, you know, you just might want some of this background as we venture down the rabbit hole.

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I want all the background.

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Yeah.

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You know, how we love strange things about history and true crime and, of course, synchronicities.

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Yeah.

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Adolph Herrman Kohrs.

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He scared me for like a second.

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Yeah, it's funny because I'm going to address that shortly.

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Okay.

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Adolph Herrman Kohrs was born in Germany in 1847.

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Wow.

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Yes.

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That's a long time before the 60s.

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Sure.

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Sure was.

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I'm going to reference the most common spelling I was able to find because it's significant

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in regards to this man's name for more than one reason as fate would have it.

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So the complete spelling of his full name, Adol L P H.

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So different spelling of Adolph.

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Herrman - which always comes out a little bit more French or anyways, H E R R M A N.

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I think that's how the other guy with that name spelled it too unfortunate, but what are

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you going to do?

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Common German names.

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K O H R S.

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That makes sense for German.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Remember the spelling, okay.

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Significant.

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And not just because of the other Adolf.

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At just 15, he began work as an apprentice at a brewery in Germany.

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Ooh.

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That would be really cool.

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I know.

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Good German brewer.

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Dream internship.

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There he learned how to make beer, run a brewery.

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Presumably how to compete in beer drinking competitions such as DAS BOOT.

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Yeah.

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The training is so intense.

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Intense.

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Sounds like really a pacific Northwest too with the brewery in the beer in the drinking.

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It does, right?

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It's very on brand for us.

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But as was the dream of many young people striving for more the world over, Adolph immigrated

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to the United States at age 21.

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Drinking age.

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Perfect.

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I know the US.

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The drinking age was like, can you reach the bar top?

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He stood away on a ship headed to Baltimore, Maryland.

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Somewhere along the way he decided to embrace his new life by changing his surname to Coors

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with a C.

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Ooh.

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Which we know was fairly common for many European immigrants at this time, particularly those

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coming from Germany because, you know, the spelling of German and for that matter, a lot

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of Irish names.

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Very...

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It was a dead giveaway.

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Immigrants weren't always super popular even though, what a really world.

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Anyways, before we get lost down that hole, he spoke very little English and didn't

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likely have a nickel to his name as he headed west.

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Much like Fievel.

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Is that like the mouse movie?

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Yeah, Fievel Goes West.

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For a second, I was like, oh God, I'm deeply embarrassed.

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She says I'm like such a dork.

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She doesn't know who Fievel is.

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You're still a dork and I do know who Fievel is.

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Whatever my friend Fievel and I are going to head out west.

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I don't know why, but I feel like that movie scared me.

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Yeah, I feel like I remember there may be scary parts.

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But like I like scary things.

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I don't know why.

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I don't know why that movie would have like scared me.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I have to rewatch it and then...

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Maybe alarming realism.

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I don't know.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I got that one.

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He was in search of new opportunities in a yet untamed land.

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He arrived in Denver, Colorado in 1872 where he worked multiple jobs.

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Nearly without rest, he basically worked like six days a week, forever and ever, amen.

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Oh, what's that like?

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I know.

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Weird.

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Yeah, I know.

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Weird.

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Saving money in the hopes of opening his very own brewery.

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Oh, I was going to say did he get to work at a brewery?

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So I mean, it's going to actually be better than that.

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It's going to be a lot better.

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In 1873, Adolph went into business with Jacob Schuller opening Golden Brewery.

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So he did one better than working at a brewery.

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Got some golden beer.

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Yeah.

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What are you saying about?

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I mean, aside from the name being Golden Brewery.

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It was Golden.

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I know, but...

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Oh, wait.

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By 1880, the company's name changed to course Golden Brewery, as Adolph bought out his business

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partner as the venture continued to flourish.

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Ooh, how much should he buy his partner out for?

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I don't know.

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Oh, I don't know.

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Not in the detail that's important to the story.

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It's important to me.

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It's not.

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No, give it up.

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It's hard to imagine, but these are the humble beginnings of the beer now reserved for

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the final rounds of beer pong.

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Or for day drinking floats down the river in inner tubes.

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Coors light, Coors, light.

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Isn't the same Coors?

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It is the same Coors.

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So did he start off with that spelling or did it evolve over time?

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So the original surname of the family was the K-O-H-R-S.

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And then he changed it to C-O-O-R-S when he came to America.

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Oh, okay.

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So you just said he changed it to a C.

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You didn't specify that.

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Yes.

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I know.

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Coors.

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I got Tricky on ya.

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I was going to ask you then.

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I was like, nah, show cover it.

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Yeah, she's going to cry on me.

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Ooh, okay.

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Adolph Coors.

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Adolph Coors.

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Adolph Coors.

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Coo.

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Coo.

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Coo.

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Coo.

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Coo.

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Coors dreamed of brewing the perfect beer.

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The backstory of this particular light-logger is far more flavorful than the modern day brew

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itself.

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So watery, it almost seems predestined to be pissed directly back into a body of water

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by drunk teens.

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Mm-hmm.

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Ah.

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It's hydrating.

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It's going to say memories, but I don't know.

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I don't know that it really has that many memories for me.

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I'll bring it out.

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I don't care.

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But I digress.

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I still got a little bit of background to go and some of it is actually serious.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Not too serious.

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Eventually, in 1879, the successful entrepreneur married and started a family.

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So young man, actually, pretty successful entrepreneur and I think that's kind of cool.

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I mean, it's unfortunately this stereotype of the American dream and pulling yourself

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up by the bootstraps, like, thinks a fucking lot for that.

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But this is like one of those, you know, it's old timey and like, ah, yeah, and beer and

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beer.

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Why didn't you get us cans of cures for today?

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I, yeah, I don't know.

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And is he doing some things?

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Drop in the ball.

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Drop in the beer.

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I could order us beer.

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Adolph and Louisa Weber-Coors, went on to have six children together.

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You might think that prohibition would have put the family business into a bit of a tight

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spot.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Apparently, not so though.

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The Coors company simply pivoted to other products, producing cement, porcelain and

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malted milk, whatever the fuck that is, instead of their delicious cold, brood beer.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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I feel like malted milk would be like oat milk, you know?

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I don't know.

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00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,440
I don't know.

266
00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,440
I don't know.

267
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,440
I don't know.

268
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,440
I don't know.

269
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,440
But I have no idea what it is.

270
00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,120
And it was the only little side tangent that I was like, I just, I literally don't care.

271
00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,920
I just think of like milk made from the grains from the malt.

272
00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,920
Yeah, maybe.

273
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,920
So like oat milk.

274
00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,920
Like, yeah.

275
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,920
I don't know.

276
00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,920
I'll Google it later.

277
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,760
All right.

278
00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,720
Let me address the elephant in the room.

279
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,120
Is he with me?

280
00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,120
No.

281
00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:58,840
The name Adolph probably doesn't have the most positive of connotations for most people.

282
00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,560
However, this particular man died in 1929.

283
00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:08,920
Just in case he was still confused, thinking that perhaps he was tied to that other Adolf in

284
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some way.

285
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,040
His history can be so confusing.

286
00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:23,520
Also for reference, that other Adolf spelled his name with an F and had only relatively recently

287
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,480
been released from prison.

288
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,400
I get this is so wild.

289
00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,400
This is so wild.

290
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,680
I think at one point I knew this and it was fully absorbed, but I had to kind of go back

291
00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:37,840
and do a little bit of like a history lesson.

292
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,840
Okay.

293
00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:47,800
The other Adolph, the one that he who shall not be named, had only recently been released

294
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:53,600
from prison just in time for his rise to power that everyone wishes they had a time machine

295
00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:00,680
for by the time this Adolf, our Adolph with the pH died.

296
00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,680
Okay.

297
00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:02,680
Okay.

298
00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:09,520
Basically the timeline is 1929, he gets out of prison and then immediately is like, I am

299
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:16,600
going to start shipping people off in trains and do all of the worst.

300
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,160
Just that's my thing.

301
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,160
Just wanted to be clear.

302
00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,160
There's no relation there.

303
00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,160
Okay.

304
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,160
Good.

305
00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,160
Likes.

306
00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:31,600
Leaving the family business in the capable hands of his three sons, eventually what began

307
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,240
as a passion for brewing turned the course family into.

308
00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,320
M-m-m-m-m millionaires.

309
00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,320
Hell yeah.

310
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,320
Hell yeah.

311
00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,320
That's cool.

312
00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,120
That's a lot of money back then.

313
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,120
Yeah.

314
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,120
Y'all.

315
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,520
What are they now?

316
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,520
Trasillionaires?

317
00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,520
Oh, I don't know.

318
00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,920
They're part of that like class of wealth.

319
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,320
It just feels like it shouldn't exist.

320
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,320
Yeah.

321
00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,120
Adolph Jr. would go on to pass the business down again to his son.

322
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,200
Adolph Herrman Joseph Coors III.

323
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,200
Wow.

324
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,200
Yeah, it's a lot of names.

325
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,200
A lot of Adolphs.

326
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,200
Yes.

327
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200
Mm-hmm.

328
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,840
Yeah, they kept going with that too.

329
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,840
I'm going to say.

330
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,120
You think it would.

331
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,840
I think they got up to the fifth.

332
00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,840
Oh.

333
00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,360
And I'm like, hey guys.

334
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,360
But did you hear?

335
00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,360
Yeah.

336
00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,680
That sucks though.

337
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,920
Because it's like, it's not the name.

338
00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,920
It's a family name.

339
00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,920
It's not the same name.

340
00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:27,920
And it's not exactly.

341
00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,760
But like, of course, anyone's going to think automatically.

342
00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,760
Right.

343
00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,080
They're like, well, the pronunciation, my ears don't know how to spell.

344
00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,080
He went by ads.

345
00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,080
What?

346
00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,560
My ear started to spell.

347
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,080
I was like, I was like, I don't know if I--

348
00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,840
It got me in the funny bone.

349
00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,840
Okay.

350
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,840
Good.

351
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840
It was like a late reaction with those funny--

352
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,320
I was like, what just happened?

353
00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,960
He went by ad rather than his whole name.

354
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,440
Gina, what do I--

355
00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,200
He was the heir to the Coors brewing fortune

356
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,800
based in Golden Colorado and grandson

357
00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,240
of the original owner, son of Adolph Coors's junior born

358
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,560
January 15, 1915.

359
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,600
He was educated at the finest schools,

360
00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840
including Cornell, his father's alma mater.

361
00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,920
Wow.

362
00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,920
Oh, thanks.

363
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,960
Yeah, I just made me think of Andy.

364
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,800
Yes. Like--

365
00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,800
Hey, Tuna.

366
00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,960
His staggering list of exploits included

367
00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:44,280
serving as the Quill and Dagger Society President.

368
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:49,760
An athletic tenure as a semi-pro baseball player.

369
00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,640
And joining Kappa Alpha as a frat member in his college days--

370
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,160
of course he's a frat boy.

371
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,840
Beer kind of makes sense.

372
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,000
Actually, we're going to come back to that.

373
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,440
Oh, because you're not even going to believe there's

374
00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,840
so many funny little factoids in this.

375
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,280
Did he invent the beer bong?

376
00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:08,800
No.

377
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,520
Don't hurt it.

378
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,760
I know.

379
00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,560
If that guy gets murdered, we will cover it for sure.

380
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,400
Does this guy get murdered?

381
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,720
What?

382
00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,240
No.

383
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,080
You spoiled the ending.

384
00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,840
I mean, did I, though?

385
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,920
Ladies and gentlemen, I ask you.

386
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,040
Did I, though?

387
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,360
OK.

388
00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,240
It would be weird to join as a married man,

389
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,160
because he joined a frat in college.

390
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,120
We started chatting in between now and then,

391
00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,600
but I was going to say, because it would be weird to join a frat

392
00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,360
as a married man.

393
00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:44,080
It would be.

394
00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,040
In his later years.

395
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,520
Yeah.

396
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,040
Yeah.

397
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,360
So anyways, that was just like a fun little thought

398
00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,600
that I had when I was writing up the notes.

399
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,320
Yeah.

400
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,920
He joined in college, because that's when you do it.

401
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,240
Yeah.

402
00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,480
Although they did make a Will Ferrell movie

403
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,120
about that very premise in the early arts.

404
00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:02,960
Old school.

405
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,320
Yeah.

406
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,920
Also involved a lot of beer.

407
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,640
Love that.

408
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,400
Yeah.

409
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,600
My boy, Blue.

410
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,240
My boy, Blue.

411
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,120
I'm going to die, baby.

412
00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:17,240
He met Mary or Cart Grant and the pair married in November

413
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,640
of 1940 and had four children.

414
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720
He took over the company at 45 years old,

415
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,920
which apparently was pretty young to be at the helm.

416
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,440
Oh.

417
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,880
And I'm like, didn't pay boy.

418
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,720
I pray.

419
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,280
I want younger back then.

420
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,440
That's a nice thinking.

421
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,280
Any.

422
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,720
I think the more surprising tidbit is a fun fact

423
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:45,160
that he was allergic to beer.

424
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,480
That is so unfortunate.

425
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,240
No.

426
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,520
Your father's passion passed down from your grandfather

427
00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,480
who immigrated from Germany after interning with,

428
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,600
I can assume, only the finest of beer makers.

429
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,920
You're allergic to beer.

430
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,920
Shit.

431
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,920
Yeah.

432
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,640
I think you can only head a successful brewing company

433
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,360
in that case if your grandpa was the one that founded it,

434
00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,680
because that seems like it should probably

435
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,640
be an automatic disqualification of the wine.

436
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,640
Right.

437
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,640
Yeah.

438
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,640
I'm sorry.

439
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,680
We can't let you head this beer company

440
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,960
because you would die if you drink a product.

441
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Yeah.

442
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,200
Good thing it was already like taste tested flavors.

443
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,200
Yeah.

444
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,200
Right.

445
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,560
He didn't have to keep producing new beers and tasting them.

446
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,560
Yeah.

447
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,560
Yeah.

448
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,920
That sucks, dude.

449
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,480
Do you think he was like gluten intolerant or whatever?

450
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,960
Like allergic to gluten?

451
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,400
I don't know.

452
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,800
I mean, could have been that.

453
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,240
To make a gluten free beer.

454
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,240
Yeah.

455
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,120
Could be-- I mean, it could be so many things

456
00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,800
that they put in beer or--

457
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,320
Yeah.

458
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,000
Yeah.

459
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,440
Back then, they couldn't really probably test--

460
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,360
Yeah, I don't know.

461
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,800
I don't know that allergy testing was super advanced.

462
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,560
Yeah.

463
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,080
More existed.

464
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,920
Or hold on, this is a funny thought.

465
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,080
Do you think he was like, oh, this makes me feel funny

466
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,840
and throw up.

467
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,320
I must be allergic.

468
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,320
He just like didn't know how--

469
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:16,840
Interesting thought.

470
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,680
How perfect.

471
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,440
He just was like, I don't know, I'm trying to drive this stuff.

472
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,440
I don't feel that good.

473
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,120
It's like, well, you're doing it too much.

474
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,080
Yeah.

475
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,080
Do less.

476
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,400
How did he realize he was allergic?

477
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:29,920
I don't know.

478
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,680
That's so weird.

479
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,760
I'm not really sure what his reaction was.

480
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,120
It's an interesting thought.

481
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,840
Anyway, you're probably wondering when we're going

482
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,840
to get back to that disappearance?

483
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760
I was just talking about--

484
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,260
Yeah.

485
00:20:45,260 --> 00:20:46,000
It was a while back.

486
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,480
Or the murder thing you casually mentioned.

487
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,440
I mean, I feel like the murder is implied oftentimes.

488
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,840
But anyone who--

489
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,880
Excuse me for getting caught up in the October fest lives.

490
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,200
I'm getting to it right now.

491
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,200
It's a matter of five.

492
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,160
On the day of his disappearance,

493
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,240
ad followed his normal morning routine as he always had.

494
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,600
With a workout, shower, and coffee with his wife.

495
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,800
Finally, he tended to their horses

496
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,560
before leaving for work.

497
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,920
That's right.

498
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,160
Even though this was a long time ago on horses

499
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,800
where something that probably a lot more people could have,

500
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,880
they had horse money.

501
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,840
Horse money, guys.

502
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800
They're horse money, Rich.

503
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,280
They don't need horses for work in the land or transportation.

504
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,680
They're just like, we just like them.

505
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,440
We just want them.

506
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,080
He grabbed a tan baseball cap and slipped on his favorite

507
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:51,760
navy blue nylon jacket, like all the dads have worn forever.

508
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280
And he was out the door.

509
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,160
The only deviation from his typical routine

510
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,040
was that he had taken a slightly different route

511
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,640
than usual when he left his house in Morrison, Colorado,

512
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280
at around 8 a.m. that morning.

513
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,280
They placed him on a rural gravel road as his regular route

514
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,400
was undergoing some repair work.

515
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,280
Oh, yeah.

516
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,200
Always that construction going on.

517
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,320
So much fucking construction.

518
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,520
Next, and up your commute.

519
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,400
Couldn't have done any of that when we were in lockdown, though,

520
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,600
huh?

521
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,560
[LAUGHS]

522
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,800
That's fine.

523
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,800
It was that same day, February 9, 1960,

524
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,720
on a single lane bridge over Turkey Creek

525
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,440
near his home, the ad suddenly went missing.

526
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,320
Later that morning, as a milkman out on deliveries

527
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,000
approached the bridge, he realized that his path was blocked

528
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,760
by an international travel all station wagon.

529
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,560
Oh, OK.

530
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,080
It's cool with the car.

531
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,160
I'll show you the picture of it.

532
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,640
I have it saved on me.

533
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,320
That's top.

534
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,680
I love station wagons.

535
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,160
Really?

536
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,560
I do.

537
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,040
I want one.

538
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,120
That's really weird.

539
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,120
They look like herses.

540
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,680
We've gone over this.

541
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,600
Oh, yeah.

542
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,080
I guess I have some vague look.

543
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,120
I don't know what that is.

544
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:16,600
OK.

545
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,320
That makes sense.

546
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,200
I feel like I have the same reaction back then.

547
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Like, what?

548
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,880
Why do you want a mommy mobile?

549
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,360
You-- where at all?

550
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,000
Because you could put a battery in the back.

551
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520
Oh, well, but don't.

552
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,200
Yeah, I mean, don't.

553
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,160
Yeah, but maybe don't.

554
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,840
I was speaking in terms of herses

555
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240
worth OK for the body to be like the body

556
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,240
is supposed to be there.

557
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960
Here's consent.

558
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,720
It's so cool.

559
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000
I want one.

560
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,640
Pretty fancy vehicle.

561
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,960
But the milkman had place to be.

562
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,080
People to see.

563
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,880
Milk to deliver.

564
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,160
Gotta get that meal.

565
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,040
That's right.

566
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
So he honestly found this kind of annoying.

567
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,440
Yeah.

568
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,480
He's like, um, this is like a one lane bridge.

569
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,040
And so--

570
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,320
he honked, but the vehicle appeared to be abandoned.

571
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,000
So the milkman moved the car.

572
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,160
Noting a few things as he took in the scene.

573
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240
How did he move the car?

574
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Well, I'm going to explain.

575
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,520
OK.

576
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,760
Turns out he wasn't just seeing red.

577
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,280
OK.

578
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,920
He was still a little bit-- he was a little annoyed.

579
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,680
He also noticed there was a hat on the riverbank below,

580
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,400
probably cursing it as he tried to hurry on.

581
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,440
Still, he thought it was odd that the radio in the car

582
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,240
had been left on and strangest of all.

583
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,760
There were some chestnut colored stains on the bridge.

584
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,120
OK.

585
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,200
Sure a shit.

586
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760
You know, this was later confirmed to be blood.

587
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,840
I-- yeah.

588
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Yeah.

589
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,040
Yeah.

590
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,120
It's probably not cool.

591
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,360
It's probably not cool.

592
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:55,840
Nope.

593
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600
But put a pin in that for now.

594
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,560
As his family, law enforcement and the public at large

595
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,800
became aware that ad was missing, the manhunt that ensued

596
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160
became the largest up to that point in history.

597
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,040
Wow.

598
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,640
Yeah.

599
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160
I mean, pretty famous guy, I assume.

600
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Exactly.

601
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Yeah.

602
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,200
But I mean, now you see, it's like, OK, that's weird.

603
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Dude just leaves his car in the middle of this one lane road,

604
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,520
leaves the keys in it.

605
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,040
The radio's still on.

606
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840
There's a hat down below.

607
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,840
OK.

608
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,840
It's not good.

609
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Not just a look at it.

610
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,840
Doesn't seem great.

611
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,840
No.

612
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,960
And that's exactly what the FBI thought,

613
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,560
because they were officially on the case.

614
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,160
Dang.

615
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,120
That was fast.

616
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,600
I know they were like, what's that, girl?

617
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,760
And then they were there.

618
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,440
They're just like teleported.

619
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,680
Anyways, code name, core nap.

620
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,360
Really?

621
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,120
Yeah.

622
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,280
Did you name it that?

623
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,080
No.

624
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,800
It didn't.

625
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,280
Dang.

626
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:56,800
Core nap.

627
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,320
What have?

628
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,160
I'm going to take a core nap here in a minute.

629
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,360
Right.

630
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,600
A ransom note addressed to Mary postmarked February 9th

631
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:13,400
at 3 p.m. arrived with a demand of $500,000.

632
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Wow.

633
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,440
As it's typical of ransom letters,

634
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840
it laid out very specific instructions

635
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,080
for the exchange of the ransom.

636
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Now, this is a little disjointed.

637
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:31,120
And I think that I typed this out for myself without the things

638
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,480
in it that made it very difficult to read.

639
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,160
But just the way that it's worded, everything about this,

640
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,520
the way that it's worded, all of the mistakes

641
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:50,120
and just awkward phrasing makes me want to punch my own face.

642
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:53,360
But why can no one ever type ransom notes?

643
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:54,360
I don't.

644
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,360
They're always insane.

645
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:57,360
Yeah.

646
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:58,360
They're literally insane.

647
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,640
Maybe because no sane person would make a ransom note.

648
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,640
Yeah.

649
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:10,280
And I feel like also, I don't know, maybe going after a grown man,

650
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,200
like it's one thing to try to kidnap a kid because it's somebody

651
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,360
you can very clearly overpower, I guess.

652
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,400
But like, I don't know.

653
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,280
Just doesn't seem, I don't know.

654
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,280
I don't know.

655
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:34,280
OK, so, quote, "Bills used, non-consecative/unrecorded/unmarked,

656
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:41,520
200,000 intends and 300,000 in 20s."

657
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120
OK.

658
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,160
It's interesting because they always have specific demands

659
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,560
for the denominations of the bills.

660
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,880
They want the small bills because large bills are conspicuous.

661
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,880
Exactly.

662
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880
Z-Eckly.

663
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,880
You got a 50?

664
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,880
You must have stole that.

665
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080
You must have stole that.

666
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:07,680
$50 is basically like, you can't even go out for dinner for $50 anymore.

667
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,680
Yeah.

668
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
How do you?

669
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,400
Back to this.

670
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Let's forget the capitalistic hellscape that we're living in.

671
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440
I'd love to.

672
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,520
This was the common practice for kidnapper communications.

673
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,360
And ad was to be placed in the paper, the Denver Post.

674
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,160
It's always with the ads.

675
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,760
I know, dude.

676
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,760
That's just how it was done.

677
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Is there a class on how to kidnap?

678
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,560
No, I think sometimes it's like somebody just comes up with an idea and everybody else that

679
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,280
does it afterwards is kind of like the way they did that.

680
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:53,640
It's not worked out well because so many of these kidnappings that we've talked about have

681
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,240
just ended so well.

682
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
And I guess the warehouse are kidnapping.

683
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920
Yeah.

684
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920
That one.

685
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,160
As kidnappings go, that one ended well.

686
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Not for the neighbors, but I mean, not for a lot of people.

687
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Yeah.

688
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Not not great.

689
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Okay.

690
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Of course, it also instructed the reader that they would know if the police were called.

691
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,480
How would they know?

692
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,080
Because they are the police.

693
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Oh, plot twist.

694
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,400
I know, right?

695
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,400
They're gonna know.

696
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,120
How would they know?

697
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
They were like, we're gonna know.

698
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,440
So further, the ransom note stated, understand this.

699
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Adolf's life is in your hands.

700
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,520
We have no desire to commit murder.

701
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,560
All we want is that money.

702
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,960
If you follow the instructions, he will be released, unharmed within 48 hours after the

703
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
money is received.

704
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Which is what everybody would hope for.

705
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Of course.

706
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Yeah.

707
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Tips quickly came into the FBI and local law enforcement, including multiple descriptions

708
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:07,400
of a vehicle that had been seen numerous times, notably by that very bridge.

709
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Almost like they were like testing things out.

710
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,840
One in the whole flim flam, the scheme.

711
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Ooh.

712
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,840
Ooh.

713
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720
I'm like kind of seeing what could have happened now.

714
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,720
Yeah.

715
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,640
It was a yellow mercury.

716
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,640
That's very conspicuous.

717
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,640
That's bright yellow.

718
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Exactly.

719
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Thanks to one particularly vigilant witness, they even had a partial plate.

720
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,280
He stated it was a 1960 Colorado style plate.

721
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,280
It read, "AT62."

722
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,120
It may have been, "AT6205."

723
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,320
I'm not 100% sure about the last two numbers.

724
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800
But like, pretty good.

725
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,600
If you can get somewhere between four and six digits of, I mean, I'll take it.

726
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Yeah.

727
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,600
I'll take it.

728
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Yellow mercurys are there in, right?

729
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,360
In even the whole state of Colorado.

730
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Hopefully not many, but I would think not many.

731
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Yeah.

732
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960
It is, what is it, the 60s, 70s?

733
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
In the 60s, yeah.

734
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:25,400
The leading alpha character, A, was the county designation for Denver.

735
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,440
So, some license plate facts.

736
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:36,680
The license plate sequence, "AT62 narrowed their field to four vehicles."

737
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Wow.

738
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,000
Yeah.

739
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520
And all were assessed as potential leads in the case.

740
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,520
It was the vehicle that had been purchased just about a month prior to the disappearance

741
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,280
that drew their attention, which was like, "Huh, interesting.

742
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,320
The person who, you know, why don't you just throw up a yellow flag and be like,

743
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,920
"That's me!"

744
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,120
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745
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
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746
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640
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747
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,640
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748
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,640
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749
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,120
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750
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,520
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751
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,840
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752
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,040
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753
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360
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754
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,880
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755
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,120
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756
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,400
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757
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,040
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758
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,440
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759
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,440
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760
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:57,440
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761
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,440
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762
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,480
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763
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:11,400
As they went to track down the owner, it further seemed suspicious that he, Walter Osborne

764
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,480
and Alias, had quickly moved.

765
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440
He quickly moved out of his apartment following the incident.

766
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,440
No.

767
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,440
He got caught the car like a month before the disappearance and then all of a sudden like,

768
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,440
huh.

769
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
So wait a second.

770
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,040
You're telling me that this Adolph guy, he got kidnapped and then this guy moves out in

771
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,440
like less than a week.

772
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440
He was going to move out anyway.

773
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,440
Oh yeah.

774
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Planned in it for years.

775
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Totally.

776
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,800
But say it for years.

777
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:52,320
The Prince found in this man's rental property matched Joseph Corbett Jr. who was already

778
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,800
a convicted killer prior to his escape from a California prison.

779
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Holy shit.

780
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,800
Yeah.

781
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,800
He escaped.

782
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Uh huh.

783
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Y'all.

784
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,800
And he'd get caught.

785
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080
Not right away.

786
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,920
He had abruptly stopped showing up to work at Benjamin Moore following the kidnapping attempt

787
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,920
as well.

788
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920
So like, buy the car a month before the kidnapping.

789
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
As soon as the kidnapping happens, he moves.

790
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,680
He's like, fuck it.

791
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,880
I don't want to work here anymore, but he doesn't tell anyone.

792
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Just stop showing up.

793
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,640
I have questions.

794
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Yeah.

795
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:33,760
How does an escaped convict murderer person get a job in an apartment and buy a car?

796
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,760
Brosef.

797
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,160
He's going by an Alias.

798
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,160
It's the 1960s.

799
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Did they do not like check?

800
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,680
I mean, what's there to check?

801
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400
He's presenting them with another identity.

802
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,400
No.

803
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Okay.

804
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Well, that wouldn't help if he's giving a fake name.

805
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,320
I don't know what to tell you, bro.

806
00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Walter or Joseph, whatever it is you want to call him, left town the day after the kidnapping.

807
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,880
He had also recently purchased a typewriter.

808
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,880
Hmm.

809
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Handcuffs.

810
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,880
And a gun.

811
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Wow.

812
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Weird.

813
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Weird.

814
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,880
So weird.

815
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,880
Why the typewriter?

816
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,080
You know, I wonder, wonder, maybe he's working on a research paper.

817
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,080
Yeah.

818
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Totally.

819
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,080
He's going to become a journalist.

820
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,520
He's writing up his findings from his miraculous escape from prison.

821
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Yeah.

822
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,520
Obviously.

823
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Writing a book.

824
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,360
He is in it for the science.

825
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Okay.

826
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:39,040
He disappeared leaving no trace of his whereabouts or that of Adolf.

827
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:46,160
The kidnapper or kidnapper or kidnapper?

828
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,240
I'm sorry to say.

829
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:49,240
You should know.

830
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,240
You would think.

831
00:35:53,240 --> 00:36:00,760
The kidnapper or kidnappers never contacted the Coors family again following the ransom

832
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,760
note.

833
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,600
I only say that just because they had no idea who was responsible at the time, right?

834
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Yeah.

835
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:19,000
So like, I know because obviously what would come to light about the kidnapper was cause

836
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,600
for serious concern.

837
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,600
I mean, other than the kidnapping.

838
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Yeah.

839
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,320
You know, cause that's cause for concern.

840
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,160
But and major media hubbub because they're like, I'm sorry.

841
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,800
Did you see this guy escaped?

842
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,560
He has scoffed from a California prison and now he kidnapped someone in color.

843
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,560
I don't know.

844
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Cool.

845
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560
That's intense, man.

846
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Very intense.

847
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Okay.

848
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560
So we're going to go back in time a little bit.

849
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,320
Back in time.

850
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:58,000
On January 13th, 1951, Corbet had been a student at the University of California.

851
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:05,680
That was until his arrest when he was charged with the December 22nd, 1950 shooting death in

852
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,000
a robbery of Air Force Sergeant Allen Lee Reed.

853
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Wow.

854
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,440
I don't know if you know this or not, but like if you kill people that are servicemen, law

855
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,680
enforcement or in the military, they don't show waste.

856
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,680
It's not good.

857
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,280
No, they take it for a service.

858
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,320
They take it pretty personally.

859
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,320
Yeah.

860
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,320
Sure do.

861
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,320
Go figure.

862
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Corbet was arrested while driving a stolen car with a gun in his possession that matched

863
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
the type used in the killing of the sergeant.

864
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Dude, you throw that in a creek.

865
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,800
I mean, yeah, because they did have fingerprinting technology back then.

866
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,880
So I listen.

867
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:59,120
He is a, he is a, he's a whole boatload, a busload of red flags and bad decisions.

868
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Not great over here.

869
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,240
But his initial plea was not guilty.

870
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,240
That's not my gun.

871
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,480
No, I mean, I guess that's the move.

872
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,840
He's just trying, you know, to not get in trouble.

873
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640
I was just driving with it in my lap.

874
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,640
But it's not mine.

875
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,640
It's not even mine.

876
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,640
I'm not there.

877
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Yeah.

878
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,200
He doesn't even go here.

879
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,600
But Corbet eventually pled guilty to second degree murder.

880
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,840
So this crime, Corbet had been sentenced to five years to life, which feels like a wildly

881
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,240
broad range.

882
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:36,720
But do you judge?

883
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:45,320
I mean, for me to tell a judge what to do, which was to be served in San Quentin State

884
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
prison.

885
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Corbet was later transferred to a lower security section of California institution for men

886
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,920
in Chino.

887
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Hmm.

888
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,040
And she escaped along with another prisoner in August of 1955.

889
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Probably shouldn't have moved him.

890
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Yeah.

891
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,680
That's what I was thinking.

892
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:13,040
It's like, man, I mean, San Quentin isn't exactly like Alcatraz, but like, I don't think

893
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,840
he heard like a ton of people escaping from there.

894
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,840
Hmm.

895
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,840
The southern one though.

896
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Yeah, that makes sense.

897
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,840
Yeah.

898
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Low security.

899
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,840
All right.

900
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,840
I wonder what would get you transferred to a low security.

901
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,160
Like, do you just suck everyone's dick every day?

902
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,800
I'm like, I'm so nice and good.

903
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,440
I don't know.

904
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,680
So let's talk about the ransom notes more.

905
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,120
That happened to be a source of some leads.

906
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,720
The type written note had a unique watermark and unusual typewriter font.

907
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,040
Hmm.

908
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Yeah.

909
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,560
The typist also left two spaces in between sentences, as was the common practice back

910
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,560
then.

911
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Also, maybe these days too, for those of us that are complete mouth-breathing savages.

912
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,480
I literally don't know where you're talking about.

913
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,040
In between sentences, you like leave two spaces instead of one.

914
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,200
I've never been done that my whole life.

915
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Why would you do that?

916
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,760
Why would you hit a button more than you need to?

917
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,200
But it's easier to read stuff.

918
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,120
It's more profish.

919
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Or it that was the common practice.

920
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,880
I am writing a book.

921
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,560
I'm trying to write a book.

922
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,560
So this guy is like, educated is what you're trying to say.

923
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:38,680
Well, and also just like he is like familiar with typing, which doesn't seem significant,

924
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,400
but also like nobody had computer classes back then.

925
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,400
Yeah.

926
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,400
You know what I mean?

927
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,400
Yeah.

928
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,400
And we took typing classes throughout like going to grade school and stuff.

929
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,640
That wasn't a thing back then.

930
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,840
And people had to learn how to use a typewriter.

931
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Once they identified the particular model of typewriter used in the ransom note, a royal

932
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,240
light, portable typewriter, they went to the two retailers in the area that sold it.

933
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,040
So they're slowly due.

934
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
And still you're thinking like, oh no.

935
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,880
You know, this is the era of the typewriter.

936
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,280
Like they're probably selling a few.

937
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,280
Yeah.

938
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:24,120
But a clerk at one of the stores actually recognized Joseph Corbett.

939
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,400
The man was positive.

940
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,920
He'd sold him that very make and model of typewriter.

941
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,600
And it was a memorable purchase as he'd paid with cash.

942
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,600
Oh.

943
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,600
Did people?

944
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Which I feel like wasn't that remarkable back then, but I think typewriters were very expensive.

945
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Oh.

946
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,080
And I think it would have maybe been.

947
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:49,800
This is also in an era where just grocery stores and large retailers, they took checks.

948
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Right.

949
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,800
Yeah.

950
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,800
What's a check?

951
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,800
Stupid.

952
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Yeah.

953
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,800
Anywho.

954
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,800
But they didn't have plastic back then, right?

955
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,800
Exactly.

956
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,800
Yeah.

957
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,680
I don't think credit cards were a common thing at that point.

958
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:11,200
So the FBI publicized Joseph Corbett, Jr.'s description.

959
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:19,720
X1 to 6'2 with brown hair, 160 to 170 pounds, thin and left handed.

960
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:20,720
Hmm.

961
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:27,080
Literally, it could just be probably like 50% of the dudes in Colorado or anywhere else

962
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,960
in the country for that matter.

963
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,880
He had worked in paint manufacturing, was competent in typing, and dressed neatly for

964
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,560
the most part.

965
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:45,080
He was originally from Seattle, Washington, born October 25th, 1928.

966
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Now the man that had come up in the Seattle school system and even studied physics at the

967
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:57,000
University of Washington had been placed on the top 10 most wanted list.

968
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Damn.

969
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,760
How do you go from that to that?

970
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,760
I know.

971
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,440
It's funny that you say that.

972
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:09,560
I don't know, maybe we'll cut this, but with my next sentence, which to be clear, in case

973
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,680
this is your first foray into true crime, this doesn't anything like the Forbes 30 under

974
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,680
30.

975
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,720
It's not like that at all.

976
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,080
Maybe you got them confused.

977
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Yeah.

978
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,680
He was like, oh, wait, which list did I want to be on?

979
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Sh*t.

980
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,680
Right.

981
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,560
The athlete.

982
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:36,880
On September 11th, Higers in Pikes Peak found trousers and a pen knife with the initials

983
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,320
AC inscribed.

984
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Then Adolf Sh*t was found with multiple holes in it four days later.

985
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,200
Oh no.

986
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,040
They were pretty sure they were bullet holes.

987
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,520
He had been shot twice in the back based on their findings analyzing the Sh*t.

988
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,120
The skeletal remains of Adolph were later located.

989
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,560
The holes in the shoulder bones were examined by a pathologist and believed to be from a high

990
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,040
speed projectile.

991
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:19,080
But they also matched up with the two holes found in the clothing belonging to ad cores.

992
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:25,560
So they just like took it and it was like a, like they were trying to trace, so you know,

993
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,480
like when you're trying to trace something and you, yeah.

994
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Not good.

995
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Oh, I didn't like it.

996
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,520
Okay.

997
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:40,320
It's really weird though that at the beginning of this, we were like, never forget and then

998
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,560
9/11, it presents itself in the case.

999
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,960
I didn't even remember that, oh my God.

1000
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Is that all weird?

1001
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,960
It's not all weird.

1002
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Kind of weird.

1003
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,480
That's really weird.

1004
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Never forget ad cores.

1005
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Yeah.

1006
00:44:53,160 --> 00:45:01,560
The school allowed the victim to be identified and confirmed through dental records.

1007
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,760
Elsewhere, the yellow mercury was going up in literal smoke.

1008
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,760
Literal.

1009
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Was on fire?

1010
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:15,400
It was torched when it was found in Atlantic City near a scrap yard shortly after the remains

1011
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,640
were found.

1012
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,800
So he was probably like, this car is hot.

1013
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Oh.

1014
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,800
Really so hot.

1015
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,760
I'm going to light it on fire.

1016
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Because they were on to him.

1017
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Right.

1018
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,800
And that's a pretty distinctive vehicle.

1019
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800
Yeah.

1020
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,200
He should have got something less yellow.

1021
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Yeah.

1022
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,440
It's not going to get better.

1023
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,720
Though the mercury had been badly burned, the serial number remained and confirmed that

1024
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:47,200
the vehicle belonged to Walter, Osborne or Joseph Corbett.

1025
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,600
I'm really going to have to pick a lane with this guy's name at some point.

1026
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,600
Call Walter Joe.

1027
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Walter Joe.

1028
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Walter Joe.

1029
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,600
Little Walter Joe.

1030
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Walter Joe.

1031
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Okay.

1032
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,600
No.

1033
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Fucker.

1034
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,520
But for now, let's get forensic.

1035
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:09,280
There were four layers of soil or shale.

1036
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,040
I don't know why I might I want to say shell.

1037
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,800
I want to say shall.

1038
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,800
It is shale.

1039
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,800
Shale.

1040
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,800
I've never heard of this.

1041
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,800
Uh-huh.

1042
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,120
The hail is a shale.

1043
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Yeah, this is shale.

1044
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,320
So there were four layers of soil or shale.

1045
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Let's just say detritus of some form or fashion in the samples taken from the undercarriage

1046
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,480
of the vehicle.

1047
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,200
So it's soil.

1048
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,200
Okay.

1049
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
What's a detritus?

1050
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,440
Detritus is like debris.

1051
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,600
You see what she does to me?

1052
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
I'm sorry.

1053
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:54,120
The first layer was sand likely from the New Jersey coast because that's where the vehicle

1054
00:46:54,120 --> 00:47:00,600
was found, which makes sense seeing as it was recovered in Atlantic City.

1055
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,920
The second layer was unremarkable.

1056
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:09,200
However, another was consistent with shale at the kidnapping site.

1057
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,480
So shale is like a it's technically like if you talk to a geologist, they're going to

1058
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,840
tell you it's not just soil.

1059
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480
I, however, I'm not going to.

1060
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,840
It's soil, okay?

1061
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,840
Moving on.

1062
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Uh, it's just not that interesting until we get to something very specific about one of

1063
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,320
the layers on the shale.

1064
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,280
Let me come back to that.

1065
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:39,400
Meanwhile, Joseph was in Winnipeg, Canada when two of his neighbors recognized him from

1066
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:46,760
his description in Reader's Digest, which was like a big deal back then.

1067
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,480
Does anyone, do people even know what that is anymore?

1068
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,240
I subscribe to it.

1069
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:53,240
You do?

1070
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:54,240
No.

1071
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,240
Oh, I was like, what?

1072
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:58,240
It's like, I am learning so much about you today.

1073
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,240
I don't know.

1074
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,240
Okay.

1075
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,720
Though he fled before he could be arrested, he was said to be driving.

1076
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:08,280
Cassie, I just, I simply can't.

1077
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Is it red?

1078
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,600
A bright red Pontiac.

1079
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,640
What?

1080
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Dude just cannot help himself with the flamboyant vehicles, apparently.

1081
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920
I mean, maybe he's like, well, they'll never suspect.

1082
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,360
I'll get an even louder car.

1083
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,360
Maybe.

1084
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,360
I don't know.

1085
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,280
That's kind of what I thought, but I don't know.

1086
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,360
But they always get caught by some stupid mistake.

1087
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,360
Okay.

1088
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,800
Often a minor vehicle infraction.

1089
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,240
Like, this has happened with so many prolific serial killers that I'm just like, oh, yeah,

1090
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:43,240
buddy.

1091
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,320
Keep driving that bright red Pontiac.

1092
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,320
Yeah.

1093
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
I can't wait.

1094
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Although I would argue.

1095
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,160
I always right now.

1096
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,160
What?

1097
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,000
I think you don't use the loud car.

1098
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Although I would argue always driving a primary colored vehicle is a major infraction when

1099
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,360
you're attempting to lie low.

1100
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
You're not one, but two homicides.

1101
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,240
Only technically that's not the law you brought on this.

1102
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:18,480
There's no log against red or yellow cars, whatever you get it.

1103
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Anyway, he got away that time somehow.

1104
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:29,480
But a rooming house manager placed another call to law enforcement.

1105
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:36,640
This guy must be carrying a lucky rabbit's foot holding a full leaf clover and constantly

1106
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,400
throwing salt over his shoulder because he dodged them again.

1107
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,320
Oh my goodness.

1108
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,280
But he didn't make it far.

1109
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:54,400
The Mounties spotted his car because of fucking horse they did.

1110
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,920
Parked at a local hotel.

1111
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,280
No he literally didn't even go that far.

1112
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,400
When they knocked on the door he said, I give up.

1113
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,200
I'm the man you want.

1114
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,200
Huh?

1115
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,200
No.

1116
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,200
No, Walti Jo.

1117
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,200
You're not.

1118
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
You're not the man I want.

1119
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,200
Very easy.

1120
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,400
I know.

1121
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,920
At the time of his arrest, the case against him was fairly solid.

1122
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Remember all of the dirt and the other manner of detritus I mentioned before?

1123
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Yeah.

1124
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000
You're like, yeah.

1125
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Detritus.

1126
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Well, they more specifically found rare pink held spar minerals and fragments of granite

1127
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:41,200
in the undercarriage of the yellow mercury that they already knew belonged to none other

1128
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,920
than this dude, Walti Jo.

1129
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,480
That sounds pretty.

1130
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Yeah, it does, right?

1131
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Pink granite?

1132
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,480
Yeah.

1133
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,560
It linked him to the remains of ad course.

1134
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,560
So really pretty.

1135
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,520
In the courtroom, that went along nicely with statements he'd made to co-workers about

1136
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,080
a get rich quick plan.

1137
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,160
Maybe don't tell people.

1138
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Hey, I'm going to.

1139
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:13,840
He didn't say specifically kidnap, but he literally said a get rich quick plan.

1140
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,840
It didn't even work.

1141
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,840
He didn't get me money.

1142
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,840
No.

1143
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,840
No.

1144
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:26,680
No, this plan was so fucked from jump street and I'm going to explain a little bit more.

1145
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,680
It's.

1146
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,600
It's like calling it a plan.

1147
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,600
It's very generous.

1148
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,320
It actually was a plan.

1149
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
It just was a really bad plan.

1150
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,640
Yeah.

1151
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Okay.

1152
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,000
So reenactment time.

1153
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,100
It was believed that when ad approached the bridge, his would be kidnapper was already

1154
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,560
lying in weight on the narrow one lane bridge.

1155
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:55,120
When ad approached him, it's believed that Joseph drew his gun.

1156
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,840
Were it not for the addition of firearms to their physical encounter, the pair were

1157
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,080
pretty evenly matched.

1158
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,240
So I don't know.

1159
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:08,400
Who's two boxers that are like real equal?

1160
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,400
That's this.

1161
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,040
I don't know.

1162
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,040
And I didn't care to look.

1163
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:20,760
But unlikely the ad would have been scared into submission easily given his athletic build.

1164
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,760
He may have turned to run back to his vehicle in order to thwart the gunman at which point

1165
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,440
he was then fired upon landing two shots in his back.

1166
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:37,080
So remember how I said, fucked from jump street and do his careful.

1167
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:43,400
So carefully thought out plan foiled in an instant following ad and learning his routine

1168
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,400
was all for not.

1169
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Because he already, he, he fucking blew it.

1170
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,840
He fumbled right there on the bridge.

1171
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,840
He's like, looks.

1172
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,600
It's gonna be real hard to turn him over.

1173
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Oh no.

1174
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Yeah, you shot him.

1175
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,080
Uh huh.

1176
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,080
Twice in the bag.

1177
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,480
He was like, no, he's getting away and then didn't think about the consequence.

1178
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,000
Did you think he was just gonna come with you willingly?

1179
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,320
Like, exactly.

1180
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,320
That's what I'm saying.

1181
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,560
I'm like, okay.

1182
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,800
How did you see this playing out?

1183
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,280
Like, he just thought, having a gun would just be enough to subdue him.

1184
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:26,320
But I'm like, um, this is like kind of a man's man.

1185
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,040
Like, he's healthy.

1186
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,760
He's in shape.

1187
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,720
You guys are equally matched physically.

1188
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:38,680
Like, he probably figures that he can either run away real quick or like, he could overpower

1189
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,680
you.

1190
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,920
You should be concerned about that.

1191
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,920
Yeah.

1192
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,280
Man, I wish he just made it to his car and ran him the fuck over.

1193
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,280
No.

1194
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:56,400
So it hadn't gone unnoticed probably because he was driving a mother fucking neon colored

1195
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,400
transformer.

1196
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,920
Oh my god.

1197
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,600
This fucking idiot.

1198
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,840
So many people saw him like practicing basically.

1199
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,840
He was like, my god.

1200
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,760
I'm over here just practicing a kid.

1201
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,760
Nothing good.

1202
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,760
Nothing good.

1203
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,760
Nothing.

1204
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Wait, didn't he go a different route that day?

1205
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,400
Add did.

1206
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,360
But he knew he would be going that way because he was following him and learning his routine

1207
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,360
and stuff.

1208
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,360
Hmm.

1209
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,840
Yeah.

1210
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,000
It just happened to be that that was one of the days where, yeah, he's going a different

1211
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,440
way because of the road work.

1212
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Did he plan the road work?

1213
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,920
I know.

1214
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,920
I was like, was this like a fake construction crew?

1215
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,000
Like, he really went deep.

1216
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,480
I went like full tin, like tin hat.

1217
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,160
At trial, his defense tried to argue that the kidnapping should not be admissible in

1218
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,440
courtroom discussion since the federal charge wasn't brought.

1219
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,840
I mean, he technically didn't kidnap anybody.

1220
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,240
I mean, attempted for sure.

1221
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:01,240
Yeah.

1222
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:06,960
The prosecution argued that the botched kidnapping was what established the motive for

1223
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,880
murder.

1224
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,200
I think they have the stronger argument.

1225
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,200
Yeah.

1226
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:17,200
Ultimately, the judge sided with the prosecution because he's like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

1227
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,800
Sorry about your luck.

1228
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,840
Nice bright red and yellow vehicles.

1229
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,040
Sorry about your dad.

1230
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,040
Okay.

1231
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:34,240
Joseph Corvette, Jr. was convicted of first-degree murder in March of 1961.

1232
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:40,980
He was sentenced to life in prison, though 19 years later, he would be released for good

1233
00:55:40,980 --> 00:55:43,800
behavior.

1234
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Following his release, he found work as a truck driver for the Salvation Army.

1235
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:57,800
He died by suicide in August 2009 at 80 years of age, having previously received a cancer

1236
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,120
diagnosis.

1237
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,120
Good.

1238
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,920
I wish he was still in prison.

1239
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Yeah.

1240
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,280
He escaped already.

1241
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,680
Yeah, he has scoffed.

1242
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,280
He don't let him go.

1243
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Doesn't seem like a great Canada for parole.

1244
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:19,520
What with the multiple murders and then like the scoffay, but whatever.

1245
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,200
He'd been a full bright scholar.

1246
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,960
And now he was reduced to this.

1247
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:32,760
Meanwhile, ad cores was posthumously inducted into the Colorado ski and snowboard

1248
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,760
Hall of Fame in 1998.

1249
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,760
Oh, I know.

1250
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,760
Isn't that cute?

1251
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,760
Do he even smell boarded?

1252
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,760
I guess so.

1253
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,760
Yeah.

1254
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:44,840
He seemed like a super cool dude.

1255
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,400
But we may revisit some other problematic shit with this family that happened like outside

1256
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,400
of his whole situation.

1257
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,400
Just say.

1258
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,400
But you didn't have anything to do with it.

1259
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,400
No.

1260
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,400
No.

1261
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,400
I mean, not when it happened.

1262
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,400
Not ad.

1263
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,400
I know.

1264
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Not.

1265
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,400
Not ad.

1266
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,400
I know.

1267
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,400
I know.

1268
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,400
Yeah, we may talk about the course family again.

1269
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,400
I don't know.

1270
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,000
I'm kind of on the fence about it, but I do.

1271
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,480
I've been mullin' it over.

1272
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,280
Did any of them invent the beer pong?

1273
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,000
I not that I'm aware of.

1274
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,520
I have no idea who invented it.

1275
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,400
I don't think it was the course family.

1276
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Someone go look it up and present us with an episode on who invented the beer pong.

1277
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,400
Beer pong.

1278
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Beer pong and beer pong, both.

1279
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Well, that's about all I have to say about that.

1280
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,600
I may share with you one other quote when we do the tarot.

1281
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,840
I have another quote that I thought was kind of cute.

1282
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,840
All right.

1283
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,800
So, should we do some tarot?

1284
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,040
Let's do it.

1285
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Let's do it.

1286
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,040
Do it.

1287
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,040
I hardly know.

1288
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,040
What?

1289
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,040
Okay.

1290
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:57,040
So we got the ace of cups.

1291
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,040
Wow.

1292
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,040
Yeah.

1293
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,560
I was just thinking, though, and I was trying to say that I literally wasn't anywhere near

1294
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,560
my microphone.

1295
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,120
What are the odds that I went to add this blue mountain?

1296
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,120
Yeah.

1297
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,760
And that was just like a little last minute thing that I threw in there.

1298
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,600
And then it's a big blue hydrangea.

1299
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Interesting.

1300
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Yeah.

1301
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,600
I don't know.

1302
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,600
Interesting.

1303
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,600
Oh, and it's on page 88.

1304
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,600
What a wonderful number.

1305
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,600
Okay.

1306
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,440
Ace of cups.

1307
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,440
Interesting.

1308
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,680
It's not like coming through for me.

1309
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:36,680
Well, I guess cups.

1310
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,680
Yeah.

1311
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:38,680
The only thing that would be the cups.

1312
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Yeah.

1313
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Cups kind of make sense no matter what, because it's like, hello, cheers then.

1314
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Okay.

1315
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:52,360
Keywords are new love, beginning a creative activity, enjoy.

1316
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,520
A single large cellist appears on the Ace of Cups.

1317
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Sometimes water flows out of it, fountain like beer like beer or the cups.

1318
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,720
It's in water like how they make their beer with a cold mountain water.

1319
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,720
Oh, yeah.

1320
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,880
Was it he like, he was on a bridge, right?

1321
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,560
Was there water under the bridge?

1322
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:22,600
Well, and I was thinking about that actually, like right before we started up for tarot and

1323
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,320
I'm assuming yes.

1324
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,320
Yeah.

1325
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,200
As I'm starting to say, I'm assuming yes.

1326
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,800
I'm like, nope, there definitely was.

1327
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:30,800
Yeah.

1328
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Yep.

1329
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Yep.

1330
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,800
Okay.

1331
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:39,000
In the writer wait Smith deck, a hand emerging from a cloud offers the cup as a gift to

1332
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,360
you.

1333
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:45,280
This represents a gift of love, either of a personal or divine nature.

1334
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Okay.

1335
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:53,240
The spiritual stuff is maybe that maybe is coming through to me in a way.

1336
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Maybe I will read you that quote.

1337
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,880
Oh, okay.

1338
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,320
So maybe that's making more sense than I thought.

1339
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,320
Okay.

1340
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:05,600
This ace reminds us of the holy grail, the most famous chalice of all.

1341
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,800
Chalice is.

1342
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,840
Does boot, does boot.

1343
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:18,440
Which some people believe now lies in the chalice well in Glastonbury, England.

1344
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,280
Oh, this is interesting too.

1345
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,200
The wicking blessing is the extra excerpt for this.

1346
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:32,640
Sharing a beverage in a chalice is a popular practice in wicking rituals.

1347
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Sometimes the chalice is offered with the blessing, may you never thirst.

1348
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,760
May you never thirst because you have beer unless you're allergic to it.

1349
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:49,200
In that case, like, because the chalice is passed from one person to another, oh, interesting

1350
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,680
kind of like generational passing of the chalice with this.

1351
01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:03,520
So okay, I'm actually like, I'm feeling some connections more than I thought I would.

1352
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,080
It may feature a long stem that makes it easier to handle.

1353
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:13,880
Okay, which makes sense because he probably would have been more of a wine guy.

1354
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:19,160
The upright ace denotes a burst of joy, the kind that comes with falling in love.

1355
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,440
Oh, you have to talk about him and his wifey.

1356
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,640
Yeah.

1357
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:31,000
Often it's appearance heralds a new romance, but it can also represent the start of a creative

1358
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,400
project about which you feel happy.

1359
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,400
Oh.

1360
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Or maybe one that just was so poorly executed.

1361
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Oh, I was just thinking of like his life and his, when did he get to be the head of the

1362
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,480
beer company?

1363
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,720
When he was about 45 and when did he pass?

1364
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:50,720
I'm not sure.

1365
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,600
Like did he get like a good amount of time leading the beer company?

1366
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,600
I think so.

1367
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,600
Oh, I don't.

1368
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Yeah, I don't.

1369
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,400
I don't have to go back and look at like the dates and numbers, the like no, I don't know

1370
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,000
exactly off the top of my head how many years he was in charge.

1371
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Still just makes me sad.

1372
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,680
That was like his family's dream.

1373
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,320
And yeah.

1374
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,320
Huh.

1375
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:19,880
And this beautiful card shows up, it indicates you're on an emotional high and enjoying life.

1376
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,920
Sometimes it indicates the birth of a child or idea.

1377
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,360
In a reading about money, the a suggests the beginning of a creative endeavor, the promises

1378
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,440
to be profitable.

1379
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:39,560
I don't think that's correct with the crime that happened, but listen to the second part.

1380
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:45,520
But carefully and the seeds will bear fruit, so like he just kind of, he, he done did fuck

1381
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,520
it up.

1382
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Yeah.

1383
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:53,120
If the reading is about your work, you may be starting a new job and feel enthusiastic

1384
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680
about it.

1385
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,400
Perhaps this position will allow you to express your creativity or fulfill a dream, even

1386
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,280
though it might take some time.

1387
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,280
Huh.

1388
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,120
This all totally just reminds me because you did talk about the very beginning with his

1389
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,640
dad, his dad, his grandpa.

1390
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,400
His, yeah, it was his grandfather that started the course brewing company.

1391
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
That was like a really big part of this episode.

1392
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,040
So I feel like it's just picking up like that energy and that was very fruitful.

1393
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,040
Yeah.

1394
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,320
Well, and I think there's some other connections to I think that it's, I mean, the fact that

1395
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:34,440
we drew like the ace of cops when it's, you know, a real beer story for, I mean, to

1396
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,760
label, to totally mislabel it.

1397
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:44,160
In a reading about love, the ace symbolizes the first stages of a romantic relationship,

1398
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,160
nurture it.

1399
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,000
So your love will blossom.

1400
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,600
Sometimes it represents awakening to divine love.

1401
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,600
Okay.

1402
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:58,240
That, that still, that kind of harkens back to the quote that I was thinking.

1403
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,040
Yeah, read the quote.

1404
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,840
Okay.

1405
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:08,360
There's a saying that he who dies with the most toys wins.

1406
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Mr. Course says that's the psychology of materialism.

1407
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:22,320
If we can surround ourselves with enough toys, our lives are going to be complete and happy.

1408
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:28,360
But Mr. Course, a member of a family whose company shares were recently worth around 400

1409
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,280
million says materialism won't do it.

1410
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,480
So this is like a more modern, Mr. Course.

1411
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:44,560
But there, there were just a number of different kind of quotes and sort of things that I picked

1412
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:51,560
up from articles about his family now has sort of, I don't know how religious they were

1413
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:59,200
or weren't prior to his kidnapping, but it does seem like they have sort of found their

1414
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,200
own spiritual path.

1415
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,880
So I felt like to me that kind of tied in, it was talking about like, you know, divinity

1416
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,000
and that.

1417
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:15,720
I don't maybe love their specific religious path.

1418
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:16,720
I don't know for sure.

1419
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,400
I don't know them enough in their beliefs and everything.

1420
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:29,200
But concerning when you have conservative wealthy people that are potentially ultra-religious.

1421
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:38,440
But no, I just think that maybe their faith, assuming that it's not unhealthy or unreasonable,

1422
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:49,440
maybe that's kind of helped them to find some peace in this situation.

1423
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,440
I've burned a bear being wealthy.

1424
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:52,440
I know.

1425
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:59,040
Although, I mean, I say that jokingly, obviously, but in this case where, you know, they've lost

1426
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,240
a family member in such a horrible way.

1427
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:10,680
And I, the worst part about it is I feel like the ransom letter we know it was postmarked

1428
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,680
at like 3 p.m.

1429
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,880
I don't know if that, he could have put it in the mailbox before he even went to go

1430
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:22,840
and confront it all from the bridge.

1431
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:31,240
But to me, the fact that he sent that letter and it says, you know, I don't want to hurt this

1432
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,520
person.

1433
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:40,320
And he's saying, we, you know, I'll return him unharmed as long as we get the money.

1434
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:47,680
Knowing full well that no, you won't, that just really messes with me.

1435
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,280
Like, yeah, fucking sucks.

1436
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,280
I know.

1437
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,280
And it was all for money too.

1438
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,400
Like if money didn't exist, this probably wouldn't have happened.

1439
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,400
Yeah.

1440
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Which a lot of crimes, I'm sure, might exist.

1441
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:00,920
I didn't exist.

1442
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,920
Yeah.

1443
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,920
It was all a lot of crimes.

1444
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:03,920
The root of all evil, right?

1445
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,920
Yeah.

1446
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,600
I think that's how that.

1447
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:13,100
I think that's one of those quotes where it's often miscited and, I think that's the right

1448
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:14,100
version of it.

1449
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:15,100
I don't know.

1450
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,320
Anyhow, I believe you.

1451
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,320
Cheers.

1452
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,320
Cheers.

1453
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,280
May you never thirst.

1454
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,480
So you said you had something super important.

1455
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Yes.

1456
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,480
It was really important.

1457
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,160
I can't believe you didn't pick up on it.

1458
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,800
Well, I kind of can't.

1459
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,920
You said he left wearing a blue jacket.

1460
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,920
Yeah.

1461
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,400
You got a big old blue card.

1462
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,920
That's yellow on it too.

1463
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,720
A little bit of yellow.

1464
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,920
It's a yellow chalice.

1465
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:44,920
So yeah.

1466
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:45,920
Wow.

1467
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,760
A lot of primary color action up in here.

1468
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,760
Yeah.

1469
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,760
Yeah.

1470
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,760
No red though.

1471
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:52,760
There's no red anywhere.

1472
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,760
We got the pink.

1473
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:54,760
Yeah.

1474
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,760
It's in the felt's bar.

1475
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,040
I was like, I don't know what it actually looks like.

1476
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,400
I assume it's probably not like metallic looks just like that.

1477
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Yeah.

1478
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Um, you are welcome for this beautiful altar.

1479
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,720
It's booty fall.

1480
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,720
It's booty fall.

1481
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:11,720
Yeah.

1482
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:17,320
Should we go like stuff our beautiful faces or something?

1483
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,120
I'm very hungry.

1484
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,560
I know I probably should have ordered something already like 30 minutes ago.

1485
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,560
Uh oh.

1486
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,320
I'm hungry an hour ago.

1487
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,920
Have a creepy ass day.

1488
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,160
Well, see you next Tuesday.

1489
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,160
See you next Tuesday.

1490
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,160
Bye.

1491
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,160
Unless you're in your bright yellow.

1492
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,000
Car to incline and then we'll literally see you from a mile away.

1493
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,160
Then we saw you yesterday.

1494
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:45,160
Uh Oh, Spaghetti-o.

1495
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:52,160
Uh Oh, Spaghetti-o.

1496
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,160
Oh, Spaghetti-os!

1497
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,160
Spaghetti-os.

1498
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,160
Fish buttholes.

1499
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:01,400
Why does that sound so good?

1500
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,400
And then you ruined it.

1501
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,680
Honestly, you think it sounds good and then you try it again as an adult and you're like,

1502
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,000
what the fuck is this shit?

1503
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,000
Really?

1504
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:17,320
It tastes like it's tomato, piggettio juice with like straight corn sugar syrup in it.

1505
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,320
It's disgusting.

1506
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,320
It's like really sweet.

1507
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,680
Yeah, I don't remember what Spaghetti is.

1508
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:23,680
Are really all about that.

1509
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,680
Don't try it again.

1510
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,680
Well, we'll see.

1511
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,200
I love doing things that I'm told not to.

1512
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,200
We'll just wait acidic to it.

1513
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,200
Give me really about a heartburn.

1514
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Really?

1515
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,200
It's like don't.

1516
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,200
Yeah.

1517
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,200
It's those night shades, baby.

1518
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,200
You're like, I don't even know if there's any actual tomato in it.

1519
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,200
Right.

1520
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200
I don't.

1521
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,200
I don't know.

1522
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:49,200
They just extracted the acid from the tomato and mixed it with sugar and that is Spaghetti

1523
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,200
O.

1524
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,200
It's delicious.

1525
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
I don't know.

1526
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Oh, my goodness.

1527
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,200
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