The Platte Canyon Hostage Crisis

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Any of the students suspecting that the gun might have been a cap gun or that it held blanks were likewise enlightened to the true or of the scenario.

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Nothing could possibly prepare you for this, and yet in schools all across this country, we've been attempting to for decades now.

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[Music]

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Hi Cassie. Hi Caitlyn. Hi creepy people. Hello! I said hello instead of Lou. I noticed it, but I was just going to like breeze past it.

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I messed up. It's fine. I messed up. It's okay. What are you going to do? I can't win them all. Yeah. I know not everybody can be quite as graceful as a moll who just, you know, yanked.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that already. Yeah. Good. Oh yeah. I mean, I didn't do that. Anyways. I am in the corner of shame. You need the cone hat.

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Yeah. What is that? A dumps cap. Or yeah, a dumps cap. I've heard it called like, "Dun's Hat, DUNSCAP." Either way, put it on your head. You'd dance.

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Yeah. If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.

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We do tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little deeper insight and do our topic of the day and stick around if you're into that.

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And if you don't, then I'm just wondering, like, how have we not converted you? You know? Yeah.

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I could use some feedback on that, I guess. Maybe. I don't know. We don't want that. It's nice. It's fine.

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Alright, so the one good thing I can say about this case or story is that there's not a single instance of harmed animals. Yay!

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Yep. That I'm aware of. That's awesome. Great episode, Caitlin. Alright, let's wrap. She's like, "And we're out."

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Yeah, anyways. I'm just gonna brush past. I'm just gonna get ready and do it.

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I actually have a little bit about an animal death thing, but it's like not. It's like kind of funny.

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Oh, I can tell it at the end or I can tell it now if you want.

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I was gonna say, I do have something for at the end. So I don't know. You might need something funny at the end. And mine is not gonna be funny.

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And mine's like quick and it related to what we were just talking about. Okay, well, I say, let's do it.

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Okay. This might be surprising, but I recently recommended a book to somebody that had an animal death in it.

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Cassie. And I was like, wow, I've come a long way, but it was kind of like a funny animal death.

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It's hard to explain. The book is called Night Bitch and it's hilarious. So if anyone wants to read it.

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Okay, that sounds really familiar.

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Alright, but anyway, there is an animal death in it, but it's also kind of funny. So it's okay.

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Alright, do you say so? It's like how I can tolerate it. If it's just like, you know, a little comedy from what makes sense?

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A little comedy thrown in. Yeah, yeah, sort of our format. That makes, I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it.

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Alright, alright.

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We'll save mine for the end. It's not funny, but it will hopefully be the pickup that we need at the end.

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Okay. Yay. So something to look forward to.

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Number 27th 2006 was a Wednesday in Colorado. Well, everywhere for that matter, but that's where our story takes place.

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Not in like the other side of the world where they have different days. They're like a whole day away.

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That's the thing I said. Alright. Emily Keys was a 16 and a half year old teenage girl living in Bailey, Colorado.

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Attending Platte Canyon High School. While she and her peers attended classes that morning, it seemed like a pretty typical day.

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But obviously I'm alluding to the fact that it wasn't. No. I know. I'm like, I'm really trying to make it lighter and there's just not a...

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Okay. However, my research indicates that some seemingly benign, though perhaps strange happenings were taking place in very close proximity to the high school. Yeah. Okay.

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That's according to surveillance footage that I'm sure was only reviewed in hindsight. At 842 AM, a man pulled into the parking lot of the school.

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Just two minutes later, at 844, his vehicle leaves.

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Roughly only two more minutes go by when at 846 AM, the same vehicle inexplicably returns to the law and remains in a different parking spot for about 11 minutes before leaving again.

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The Jeep would return to the same spot at 944 AM. Security cameras would show that he remained there and even mingled with some students bustling about for approximately 20 minutes.

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A male student reported that he had asked about a list of female students.

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Ew. Okay. This is like not a high school age, dude. Did you say that already? Yeah. You know, I haven't actually... You haven't revealed.

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It's illicitly stated, but that is correct. Your intuition is on point. I mean, like if he was a high school, he would be inside the school, right?

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Right. Yeah. It's a rebel skipping school hanging out in the parking lot. Yeah.

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A weird choice. That right. I mean, it's a thing you could do, but I'm not sure why you would. Yeah. You're going to get caught. That's a good way to get caught.

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Right. That's like, you know, like devil-made cares sort of attitude. Like, I'm going to get caught, you know. I don't know.

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I'm totally picturing grease right now. Yeah.

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It was at 10.43 a.m. that he exited his vehicle. And roughly an hour later is when he would enter the school wearing a black hoodie, carrying a Glock 22 pistol, along with a Smith & Wesson 357 revolver into Camo backpack.

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It's too many guns. It's a few too many if you're trying to enter a public school. Yeah. I would argue. Yeah.

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He briefly wandered the nearly empty halls before entering room 206. Sandra Smith's honors English within the English pod.

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At the time, Mrs. Smith was instructing a college prep English class and some students were working in the computer lab next door.

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Bailey Colorado, where the Canyon Platt High School was located, was only about 45 minutes away from where the deadly Columbine shooting happened some years prior.

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But surely nothing so horrific could happen in a small rural Colorado town's high school, right? I hope not.

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I mean, there were roughly 3500 people living there. They didn't even have a movie theater. Oh, wow. So like really a small town. Super small. Yeah.

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When Mrs. Smith noticed the presence of a strange man in his 50s in her classroom, she questioned him and the two began arguing, leading some students to believe he might have been a disgruntled parent.

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I mean, yeah, I guess that would be a logical kind of. Yeah. Who comes in and argues with the teacher? Like, right. You know, I mean, first of all, Karen, not a great move as a parent either. But yeah, this guy was definitely not a parent.

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When he pulled out a handgun and ordered the students up to the front of the classroom, they were seemingly quickly corrected. I don't think that any of them continued to believe that that was a parent.

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Yeah. I mean, I guess possible, but like probably not. It seems a lot less likely in my instance. I'm sure.

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Still, the gravity of the situation wasn't immediately apparent to everyone, even in relatively close proximity within the English pod.

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So this kind of reminds me of like the dual classes that we had when we were in high school, where it was like you'd have English and social studies.

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And it was technically like two classrooms and they took the like that like pull out separator. And they opened it up and you'd have two teachers and they would rotate.

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I literally never understood that it's really weird. Like what I still don't get what what was happening, but whatever it's very strange. I feel like that might be something that like we sort of just internalized as like that was our high school experience.

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But like I don't think that's super normal. I don't. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. It seems weird to me. But anyways.

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So this was multiple classes that were going on that were, you know, within the English pod. And because it's such a small town, the layout of some of this school.

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I don't I'll get to it here in a little bit. There's some important details about kind of how how this all plays out related to the layout.

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So okay. Some account state that at one point students in the computer lab tried to re-enter the classroom, noticing the lights were off, prompting the gunman to fire a warning shot into the ceiling.

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Any of the students suspecting that the gun might have been a cap gun or that it held blanks were likewise enlightened to the true horror of the scenario.

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Nothing could possibly prepare you for this. And yet in schools all across this country.

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We've been attempting to for decades now literally decades. It's pretty wild. Yeah. Remember those drills we used to do or they call it I can't remember.

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Active shooter drills. Yeah. And we're going to talk about that. That's like. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. This is a little bit different of a situation. I will tell you that. So it's not going to be exactly what you expect. Fortunately or unfortunately, I there's no good way to look at this.

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I think the gunman ordered some of the female students, all of the male students and the teacher to leave.

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He reportedly released taller and heavier frame students as well as Burnett girls from the classroom.

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Oh, yeah. That got real creepy real fast.

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The teacher initially resisted, but he threatened both the students and teacher. So she and the other reluctant students eventually left.

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What do you want to know what choice you have? He was said to have fired a shot into the air forcing them to flee to the administrative office.

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There are two distinct instances where he's described as firing a warning shot as it's you'll hear it referred to, I think.

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And I'm sort of lacking a better term for that. But and it's unclear to me if the multiple descriptions from witness accounts are actually describing the same occurrence.

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Or if he really did fire multiple times.

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And I have reviewed some of the official reports that have been released on this, but I just think in the chaos of this situation, even an official report.

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Like these are things that are happening before law enforcement arrives. Everybody is going to have different experiences as a witness.

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So I'm just putting that out there because I think that was something I really felt like I wanted to nail down and be sure that I knew like certain details of the timeline that I don't think I don't think it's possible necessarily.

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Even the official report, I feel like given that level of chaos.

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I'm just not sure that we could ever really know that for sure. Yeah. And that's well, I guess she still can't. I was like unless they found bullets later and like counted them up. But like still, I would you know when they were shot.

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Yeah. Yeah. I just think, you know, I mean that could certainly help. But I do feel like that still like you say like it, it just.

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It's tricky. It's like one of those things you think they like would figure out on like Dexter how it happened, but like in real life, they probably wouldn't figure that out as easily.

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Right. They couldn't say for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of think so.

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It's a bit of uncertainty that perhaps official reports might claim to neatly resolve. But I feel like if it's the only bit that remains uncertain in the retelling today, it's crucial.

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It's a mere modicum of the discomfort that the students and staff present that day would have felt.

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Because there was part of me that realized as I'm researching this, I am trying to research this to make myself feel better because I need to understand it.

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And I want to know that I know the details of this event and I know the details of this timeline and the fact that I feel like in certain respects, there's just no way that I can know that it bothers me.

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And I thought, I think maybe I need to sit in that discomfort.

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You know, yeah. I don't know if that makes sense, but yeah.

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You need to do some journaling, Caitlin. I'm not going to do journaling. I will sit in my discomfort over that though. I just thought I felt like that was important.

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You know what? What?

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I sit in my discomfort every time you tell me a story.

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That's true.

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Yeah, same Z's. Yeah. Yeah.

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Although it's getting better for me at least. You're like, it'll never be better for me. Thanks a lot. I got to find a real scary one for you next.

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Don't help her. Do not help her.

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You've been a really scary suggestions. Or if you have a really scary story, you want to write into us or email us, pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.

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And you can be a part of our creepy people chronicles.

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Just saying. We help me scare Caitlin.

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I am not behind this mission. This this this campaign is not sponsored by Caitlin 2024.

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I'm going to cut out everything she says because I have full control.

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I'm going to splice together saying like, I agree with you guys.

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My God, she has so much power. You guys it's gone to her head. I can just make an AI voice for you. Right?

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That's true. Yeah. We don't even need her anymore.

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I knew this day would come. I'd be replaced by the bots.

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The retreating teacher and students made their way to safety as well as to seek assistance for those left behind.

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The code white was issued upon learning of the active shooter. The school went into immediate lockdown.

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Apparently teachers knew exactly what that meant, though students did not.

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Code white. Interesting.

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Another student named Taylor would share in interviews years later that her reaction at the time when they were hearing what in hindsight was clearly gunshots.

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It was to almost sort of joke about it. Like that's not a gun shot. It's a door slamming.

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Everyone reacts differently in these situations clearly evidenced by the girl that was immediately hysterically crying.

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Which kind of breaks my heart because it's like, damn, she knew this sound.

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Hopefully she just knew that because dad was like, you know, a hunter recreationally.

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Yeah, I wonder if she just like had the intuition or yeah.

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Our brains and other biological responses do their damnedest keep us alive somehow.

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Taylor was 15 years old at the time of the shooting and throughout her high school career would prove to be something of a high achiever

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as the president of the student council and a member of the debate team.

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I'd be remiss if I didn't share a portion of my research. So I'll mention that dire trip played some of the 9-1-1 call where we hear the voice of the teacher.

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Oh. They played that in their episode as many other sources did.

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Reportedly, the gunman threatened that if anyone were to return to the classroom, he had enough explosives to blow up the school.

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Jesus.

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It feels like I was just telling you a story about a bombing.

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Yeah. And yet here we are again. It's so intense.

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But there is a little bit of good news.

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Okay.

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Taylor, likely as many of her peers did, had a sibling also attending the school.

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A younger brother.

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Hmm.

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Which I realized doesn't seem like particularly good news on the surface necessarily.

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But despite how that might sound, that's one bright spot in this case because the junior high aged students attended classes in an adjoining.

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Building.

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Because it's a really small town.

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They don't have a movie theater.

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So it's like literally all of the youth practically of this entire town is on this campus.

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Oh gosh. That's really scary too.

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Yes.

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The high school and middle school were connected by the cafeteria.

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The younger kids had been evacuated by crossing the parking lot and hiking them all through the woods.

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Whoa.

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Yeah.

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Like get away.

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Yes.

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Wow.

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I mean, which thank God that they, you know, were able to do that because at this point they're literally thinking there's not only a gunman but potentially a bomb.

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And I can't even imagine that's such a scary situation.

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Wow.

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How young was like the youngest kid, do you know?

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I mean, I don't know if their middle school went down to like sixth grade or if it was seventh grade.

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But I mean, yeah, you're talking about like potentially sixth seventh graders.

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Like, these are young kids like 11, 12.

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Having to flee from school.

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That's crazy.

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So, you know, that's a huge piece.

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The most students wouldn't receive that level of clarifying information until much later.

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So, if you had a younger sibling in the middle school, you know, that's such a huge, like you've got to be worried about your sibling, I would think.

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Yeah.

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And I have to say that this might have been the most troubling aspect of the idea of violence in an academic setting.

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But I'm really looking back.

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I could have been stabbed in college years later walking to my car on one of the mini nights when the street lights were out for some reason on an isolated campus on the outskirts of Portland proper.

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And that never really struck fear in my heart, which maybe it should have.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes it is just a hat rack.

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At least not the way that the idea of something happening on our high school campus in the couple of years that my brother and I attended high school together dead.

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I'd like to say that it was because I was worried for my parents, like grappling with loss of two children potentially.

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I think I knew then and I know still that it was because I would scorch earth from every end of the fucking planet if anything ever happened to my brother.

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I just would be like completely ruined.

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I mean, I'm sure my mom would be sad too.

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Taylor said it didn't feel real until they were taking role in the gym and she was realizing that some people were clearly not present or their names weren't being called.

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It was actually her mother taking role as she worked at the front desk of the school.

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I don't think any high schooler has ever been happy happier or happy at all to have a parent working on their own campus.

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I'm sure seeing her mom's face with all of the confusion and fear of the morning was such.

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I just can't even imagine what a relief that would have been in the moment.

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So we know that the youngest children present on the campus at the time of the lockdown were whisked away to safety.

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The lockdown was also able to do the same for many of their slightly more senior students attending classes on the high school side of campus.

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We know we're getting a lot of kids evacuated.

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So we know that in all of this chaos, the family of Emily Keys was notified of the situation taking place at the school.

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Her father was shocked to learn that the classroom where the incident was unfolding was none other than her current class on that day at that very time.

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He drove to the school but couldn't get very close to the building.

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Emily's mother drove straight to the police station and that's where she would learn that her daughter was indeed identified as one of the current hostages.

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Emily's father asked for someone to text her and within a short time a singular reply was received.

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I love you guys.

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However, additional text messages were unanswered. The gunman turned off all the lights in the classroom as he repositioned his bag to the middle of the room.

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He threatened that none of them should touch the backpack as it held explosives.

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It was at this time that he systematically took each of the individual girls to the back of the classroom alone.

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All that the others could do was stand in quiet, horrified shock as they heard tell-tale signs of their fellow classmates or deal.

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The sound of zippers, belts, and other clothing being ripped as some of the girls begged him to stop.

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Each individual victim only silenced by the gunman's threats of violence.

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Details of the sexual assaults have not been revealed due to the fact that the victims were minors at the time of the horrific crimes.

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I'm okay with that.

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At 1215, a single female hostage was released from the classroom and was eventually escorted outside of the building.

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Slowly, law enforcement began to get a more well-rounded picture of the situation inside room 206.

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The sexual assaults taking place as well as the gunman seemingly singular focus on Emily upon learning her last name.

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The man who would fly into fits of rage throughout the ordeal was unemployed and unhoused at the time.

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His name was Dwayne Morrison.

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Later, reflection would reveal he appeared to not only drift away from those once close to him but also in all probability reality.

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He was living in his vehicle on the grounds of a national forest.

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Meanwhile, also struggling with bipolar one and trauma, his overall condition was marked by hallucinations.

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Law enforcement responded quickly once alerted to the situation on the campus.

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Whereas officers responding to the shooting at Columbine had been criticized for remaining outside as the deadly events unfolded, these officers knew they would be taking a proactive approach.

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Both law enforcement and school staff, along with students, had the benefit of hindsight from that horrific event.

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I actually watched an interview with a couple of the guys that were on the SWAT team in Colorado.

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They talked about how after Columbine, the turnover with SWAT was really crazy for a while.

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The team that they had at least the time of this interview, they talked about how they all kind of once they got this cork group together, they decided we're going to do this differently.

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We're not going to have another Columbine, which all they can do, all they can control is how they respond.

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But I mean, my God, it was a little bit heartbreaking to see these guys who look like Navy SEALS either in or on the verge of tears.

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An alert system was adopted in order to provide vital information to law enforcement entering the facility.

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A green card slid underneath a classroom's door, signaled that the occupants were currently safe and un-injured.

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I viewed this slideshow about preparing for active shooter scenarios.

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It's now woefully outdated, but it was kind of of this era actually a few years after this shooting even.

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I'm not totally sure what the current procedures today look like in all aspects, but I will mention a few key points of the response plan, kind of general talking points from the PowerPoint regarding an active shooter.

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I think there's a few things that have changed with time as has our understanding of these crimes.

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The PowerPoint was developed to explain key terms, informing the response of those involved in a school shooting or other violent type of attack.

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So here are some of the bullet points.

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In addition to locking or otherwise attempting to secure the space being occupied, the initial slide I'll describe advises turning off the lights, TVs or other sources of noise,

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keeping students quiet and away from door and windows.

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The next section discusses the system with red and green cards.

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So I want to say just before I forget this initial section that I'm kind of reading through, there might be some things that have changed.

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So please don't take this as sort of the gospel in current day and I'm going to point out a couple of things that I know specifically have changed.

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So with the red and green cards, if injured people are present or immediate medical care is needed, use the red card only.

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Slide it under the door and put it in the window. No other colored cards should be used.

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When the green versus red card system was being used by putting a green card out at the onset of the event, teachers were actually flagging their classroom and being occupied.

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Just going to say that.

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So I think this one's a pretty obvious example, but I have a couple of other ones that I'll circle back and kind of explain where the common knowledge I guess or recommendation, it's a little bit changed.

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Importantly for law enforcement status may change in the room.

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Medical emergency occurs following display of green card, for example. So maybe when you threw the card out there, nobody was hurt. And now somebody is.

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Now you have two cards indicating two opposite things outside the door to law enforcement. So if you've got two different cards out there, there's like, well, what the fuck are they supposed to think?

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I would assume the worst, hopefully. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that just is confusing and yeah, obviously these are things that are going to be leaked to the general public at large.

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There's no way for them to keep that information out of the hands of somebody who might perpetrate the crime.

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Other concerns of note related to the previous multi color card system. Schools within the same county often had different card systems.

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Not great. No. The event will be a multi agency response.

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Okay, if somebody shows up to a school with a gun, you're going to have potentially, you know, your state, please look what all different forms of law enforcement that are responding, SWAT team, whatever.

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The card system used in this county should be the same system used in any other county.

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Basically, the point is you need to establish consistency. Whatever it is, it needs to be clear so that anybody who walks in is going to understand.

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Yeah. If you have a substitute teacher and like they teach all over the state, that could be so confusing.

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The enforcement is also only concerned with the red card anyway. They're like, please don't point us towards classrooms where everybody's okay.

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We'll go ahead and we'll clear the rooms. Yeah. But like if there's somebody that needs attention, like maybe flag that everything else is not great.

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That makes more sense.

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I've been related to the card system, but important to note and my research indicates that this is based on current guidelines.

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Do not worry about closing the window blinds or shades.

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Law enforcement has never liked this action taken by schools. It eliminates sight into the room by law enforcement snipers, while also limiting vision out of the classroom at your surroundings.

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If a hostage situation occurs, suspects are more apt to pull shades down to limit law enforcement's ability to see inside the room and assess the situation.

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It can be much quicker for law enforcement to pick out the room with possible trouble inside without this interference.

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That makes sense to me. Yeah. Back to our case at hand.

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As law enforcement approached the classroom, the gunman held one of his captives at gunpoint using the young girl as a human shield.

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He was cornered, but with innocent civilians, he was carefully keeping in close proximity.

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Law enforcement had very few options.

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Worseening the situation was the threat he leveled, supposedly having three pounds of C4 in his backpack.

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Jeez.

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Which is a lot of f*ckin' C4.

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Because I have none.

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Right. That's like what I was basing it off of, too.

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Do you know how big of an explosion that would be?

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I really am not sure. I think they fully anticipated that that would take out the entire school.

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So relatively large.

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Yeah. I'm just not well versed enough in a lot of things that I would need to know to be able to like even effectively research that.

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You didn't Google how much C4 it would take to blow up a school?

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Well, schools are all different sizes.

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I know, but that would be like a little bit of a red flag.

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Right. If you Google that.

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Yeah. Yes, it sure would. Thanks for the suggestion, Cassie.

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You're welcome.

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God.

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Law enforcement was left with few options but to retreat.

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At least temporarily to regroup as they tried to formulate a response strategy that would ensure everyone's safe return help.

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At least that was the hope.

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Given the threat of explosives being present on the campus, it was paramount that the responding law enforcement preserved the lives of as many of the innocent inhabitants as possible.

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Please call in the bomb squad and begin evacuating the other students and staff from the school.

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Gradually, additional female students held in room 206 were released by their capture.

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Room by room, the rest of the students and staff in the building were evacuated.

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So I arrived at approximately 130 p.m. and tried to begin negotiations, but he really would never speak to them.

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So police set explosive charges around the door in case they needed to force entry.

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Snipers were nearby, but with daylight fading, there wasn't much hope that they would be able to assist all that much.

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And when they attempted with a fiber optic camera on a robot, they inserted that under the door.

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That was all but useless.

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Unless you find enraging the hostage taker useful.

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Yeah, did do that because apparently he noticed it.

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No shit.

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So.

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But I mean, they got to try.

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Right.

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What do you do?

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I mean, it's tough.

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It's really tough.

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I mean, and I think I didn't come across really anything that had much in the way of criticism as far as like how their response to this.

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To this event, how it all played out.

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I mean, my God, they weren't just standing outside.

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So.

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Emily had been used as a communicator with law enforcement and was instructed to tell the police that this would be over at 4 p.m.

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So they just have to wait.

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They feared this would be when his explosives would detonate.

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At 335, they breached the room using the charges set around the classroom door and flashbangs.

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These devices would later be determined to have performed as indented.

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He was positioned against the back wall of the classroom.

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Emily's head was in his left hand.

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And his gun in his right positioned at her temple.

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One other hostage was able to flee the room and was escorted by SWAT to safety.

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As SWAT advanced, he raised his gun.

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Emily attempted to take a step forward and was swiftly shot by Morrison.

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So I was able to see SWAT open fire on him, but he also shot himself in the right side of his head effectively ending the ordeal.

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He was ultimately pronounced dead at the scene at 3.57 p.m.

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Emily still had a pulse when police arrived at her side.

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They tried intubating her as well as administrating CPR before she was airlifted to St. Anthony's Central Hospital.

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Though she was rapidly airlifted to the hospital, she was pronounced dead at 4.32 p.m.

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Emily's twin brother wasn't in school that day because he'd been on a school field trip.

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I feel like bearing witness to this tragedy is trauma as is being connected to any of the victims.

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But if being away from campus on that day could spare him even a modicum of pain, I hope that it did, even if it was temporary.

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I just... I can't.

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Like all of that just to kill yourself then. Like I never understand that.

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What the fuck is the point?

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It's really pointless and... it's gonna get worse.

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By 4.34, law enforcement sweep for explosives had begun, but it wasn't long before it became apparent that none had ever been placed in the facility by the gunman.

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Still, there would be far more order to unearth as his personal effects were processed.

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In his backpack, they would find duct tape, handcuffs, knives, a stung-gun, rope, scissors, as well as copious rounds of ammunition.

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Jesus.

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Other contents of the bag were equally disturbing though in a different manner.

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He had massage oil and sex toys.

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Oh.

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By 615, the search was over for explosives.

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He'd been scoping out the school at least as early as the day before.

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But it hadn't been to that end. He wasn't planning on blowing up the school.

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The day after the shooting, his family received his suicide note detailing the abuse of his father, his depression, and suicidal ideation.

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It also provided instructions for how to divvy up his remaining property, leaving his guns to his nephew.

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Oh my god.

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The note didn't detail the plans of the shooting or the assaults, only his suicide, but urged them not to feel guilty or responsible.

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But his brother, obviously this is the day after, he already knew what he had done, and he couldn't bring himself to read the letter before handing it over to ATF.

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No.

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Which I mean, how could you?

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I mean, part of me thinks I would be so morbidly curious and I would want to know what this person has to say.

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And part of me is like, I just don't know how I could read that and not lose it.

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I could understand both.

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Yeah.

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There's no good way to handle that.

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I mean, like his family, like there just as much victims as anyone, he had no specific feud or issue with the high school.

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But he did, however, with a motorcycle shop in Littleton, Colorado.

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The very same town where the Columbine shooting had occurred a handful of years prior, just possibly one of the creepiest facts of this case.

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He'd become enraged when he purchased a motorcycle and came to find that additional accessories he'd apparently wanted were not included.

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Okay. Thus began a pattern of escalating threats and harassment just about a month before the hostage crisis.

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With Emily's belongings, law enforcement found a business card for that motorcycle shop.

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The school was closed for the rest of the week after the horrific events.

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Thousands of motorcyclists rode from Columbine to Platte Canyon in honor of the victims of school violence and numerous memorials were established along the highway.

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The school reopened the following Monday with counseling stations available.

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Only 10 of the 460 students attending the school were absent on that day.

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I don't know how you go back.

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I don't think that a lot of these people would have had much choice.

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Yeah. I know.

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Not another school.

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Unless you just have the means to pick up and move away.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I know, like, yeah, you have to, but I should.

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Yeah.

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I do have some other information about what it was like at the high school after that.

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I'm going to save because this already is going to be a really long episode.

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And I do have a really important update on a previous episode.

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Okay.

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That I want to put out there.

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But I do have some information that I'm going to just put together.

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We'll go ahead and we're going to share that with the Patreon.

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And that will be some information that's really interesting about just some things that didn't quite fit neatly into the case.

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And I mean, my god, we're going to be like two hour episodes like I'm in Christine.

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So, um, which I don't know.

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Maybe people wouldn't be mad about that.

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But, um, I would.

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Yeah.

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I had to add to that.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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Efforts for increasing safety in the wake of the deadly Columbine shooting had been abandoned in favor of funding programs aimed at higher test scores.

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So, okay.

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You can't have higher test scores if all the kids are dead.

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Yeah.

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Hate to stay the obvious.

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Perhaps a little bit crass, but still somehow not everyone is as bitter and blunt as I am, including Emily's family.

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And this is a quote and, um,

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and they just like the sweetest people.

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Well, because it's not law enforcement per se that was deciding not to spend the tax dollars on that.

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For some, it may be difficult to accept the right actions at the right time by the right people may not have the right outcome.

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When what we hoped for didn't happen.

394
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Some may want to find fault.

395
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:24,000
But there is no fault to be found in the command decisions when given the information and behavior presented.

396
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,000
There is no fault to be found in the courage and speed of their response.

397
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
From our family, there is only respect.

398
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000
The best people did the best of things.

399
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000
The outcome could have been far more grave.

400
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,000
We as a family know this and appreciate this.

401
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Real life doesn't always have a happy ending.

402
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,000
And, um, usually not.

403
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000
Usually not.

404
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,000
No.

405
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,000
I'm such an ugly grider too.

406
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:14,000
These are just humans that have a capacity for grace that I cannot begin to fathom.

407
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:25,000
So that was exorbed from the keys family statement regarding the March 27th, 2007 release of the CBI report on the

408
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Platkanian hostage crisis that claimed their daughter and sister.

409
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,000
The, I love you guys.

410
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Foundation was started by Emily's parents to focus on school and community safety programs, benefiting tens of thousands of schools and other agencies in the U.S. Canada and elsewhere abroad.

411
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:09,000
And I think that's a good thing.

412
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,000
I think that's a good thing.

413
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
I think that's a good thing.

414
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:26,000
I think that's a good thing.

415
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
I think that's a good thing.

416
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,000
I think that's a good thing.

417
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,000
I think that's a good thing.

418
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:48,000
I think that's a good thing.

419
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,000
I think that's a good thing.

420
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,000
I think that's a good thing.

421
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:11,000
I think that's a good thing.

422
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:26,000
I think that's a good thing.

423
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:41,000
I think that's a good thing.

424
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,000
I think that's a good thing.

425
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Wow.

426
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,000
The AR-15 belonged to a relative of Morrison.

427
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,000
The weapon had been reported stolen by Morrison.

428
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:14,000
The family member refused to cooperate or provide any additional information to authorities.

429
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:22,000
I feel graciously decided to leave it out.

430
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
Interesting.

431
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000
I wonder why they didn't cover it.

432
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,000
I wonder why they didn't report it stolen in the first place.

433
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Yeah.

434
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,000
But I think that family has probably been through enough.

435
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Yeah.

436
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
I mean, they didn't do it.

437
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,000
No.

438
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:50,000
But I do think that there are situations where it's like we need to be a little bit more accountable, especially when we're talking about he didn't steal your Stanley Cup.

439
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Yeah.

440
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000
But that wasn't the only weapon that Morrison purchased from a third party.

441
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Purchased, stole, hard to say.

442
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Only to report as stolen on the very same day.

443
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
So he actually reported more than one weapon as stolen.

444
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
So he bought them and then reported them as stolen.

445
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Yep.

446
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Or stole them and then reported them stolen.

447
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:26,000
In fact, there were reportedly a total of up to 15 weapons that he claimed were stolen in a residential robbery collecting over $10,000 from insurance.

448
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,000
What?

449
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
That's a look insurance.

450
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,000
If I ever heard it.

451
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Yeah.

452
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,000
It's funny.

453
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,000
You should say that.

454
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,000
In my notes, it says seems suspicious, right? I guess maybe only in hindsight.

455
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Yeah.

456
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Those insurance adjusters will get you every time.

457
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
I don't have.

458
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,000
I don't even know.

459
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
I know that there just are no.

460
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,000
How?

461
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
And again, I mean, I can't.

462
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
I feel like I can't make this clear enough.

463
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,000
But like, his family is not at fault here in any way.

464
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,000
But like, maybe I'm going to sound like a crazy liberal here.

465
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,000
But like, why is it legal for somebody to own 15 guns?

466
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Why is that necessary?

467
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Yeah.

468
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000
And why can't you get them in short?

469
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Like, why?

470
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:22,000
I mean, the insurance piece of it almost makes sense to me more than just like the volume is a little ridiculous.

471
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
I guess.

472
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,000
I don't know.

473
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:31,000
There's a lot about this situation. It seems weird to focus in on that specifically.

474
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Yeah.

475
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
There's plenty to be upset about here.

476
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,000
But I'm going to do some tarot.

477
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
And then maybe I can share my update.

478
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Yeah.

479
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Let's do the tarot.

480
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Because I'm.

481
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Yeah.

482
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,000
I'm so sad.

483
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,000
I know.

484
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Emily.

485
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Emily.

486
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:57,000
But you know, everybody commented on how incredibly calm and collected that she was.

487
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:04,000
It was really important to her that she tried to do everything that she could to help in that situation.

488
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:10,000
She was the one who tried at least to speak to the hostage negotiator.

489
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
I mean, my God.

490
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,000
What an incredible human.

491
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Yeah.

492
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:26,000
That's just so insane that he was mad at her, what her dad or her parents that owned the motor shop or they don't own that they don't even own it.

493
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,000
He was just what.

494
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,000
It really doesn't make a lot of sense.

495
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Why did he go after her?

496
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,000
I think he thought she was associated somehow.

497
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Oh, okay.

498
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000
There's no reason why she would have really been like affiliated with the motorcycle shop.

499
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000
I don't know if the owner of the shop like had the last name.

500
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Weird.

501
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Whatever, whatever connection there.

502
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,000
Like maybe even just allegedly is.

503
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
It doesn't make any fucking sense.

504
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Yeah.

505
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,000
And like they were the owners of the motorcycle shop so he was like getting their daughter.

506
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Oh, okay.

507
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Yeah.

508
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Nope.

509
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000
Not better, not worse.

510
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Wow.

511
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Right?

512
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
I mean, not better, it is worse.

513
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,000
You know, but like it's one of those things where it's like, how do you even decide?

514
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Like, but there's no rationalizing something that crazy.

515
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Like someone who's mentally ill, obviously, they're all rational people.

516
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,000
And that's not an excuse, but whoa.

517
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Okay.

518
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,000
Well, let's seriously though, can we do a tarot?

519
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,000
Tarot, tarot.

520
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,000
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521
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533
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Hazel, this crime.

534
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Do you want to shuffle?

535
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Do you want me to shuffle?

536
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,000
I did do some shuffling.

537
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Look at that.

538
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
I mean, I could move my microphone.

539
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,000
I mean, then you'd have to move it again.

540
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
It's a whole thing, you know?

541
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Okay.

542
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000
She fingered it good.

543
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Sorry, I can help it.

544
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Oh, boy.

545
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Okay.

546
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,000
This is, I think this is eight of ones in the reverse.

547
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Okay.

548
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Oh.

549
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Oh, boy.

550
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Are those...

551
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000
Pigeons?

552
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000
I don't know what kind of bird those are.

553
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
The book is in the box.

554
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
If you are so curious.

555
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,000
Oh, yeah.

556
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I always want to know.

557
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Yeah.

558
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000
I feel like sometimes it's like crucial to the story.

559
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Yeah.

560
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
It does.

561
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Sometimes it ends up being information we want and need.

562
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,000
All right.

563
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:44,000
So the eight of ones are keywords are action, excitement,

564
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,000
new experiences and urgency.

565
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Holy fuck.

566
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Okay.

567
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Yeah.

568
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000
It does not get better from here because I don't like what I'm seeing.

569
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Okay.

570
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:01,000
When the eight of ones appears, you can expect your life to speed up big time.

571
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Oh, my God.

572
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:10,000
This card suggests lots of action and excitement coming your way.

573
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,000
This is the Carpe Diem card.

574
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,000
What does that mean?

575
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,000
I can't remember.

576
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000
It's kind of like seized the day.

577
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Oh, yeah.

578
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,000
X.

579
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Whatever you've put into motion now takes off at a rapid pace.

580
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
The eight may also indicate a whirlwind trip.

581
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Yeah.

582
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,000
I feel like it kind of like didn't go as he planned really either.

583
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,000
Did we kind of really talk about that?

584
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,000
What do you mean?

585
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,000
I don't know because he buried the guns and stuff and like I feel like maybe he was planning to leave with...

586
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,000
I, you know, it's unclear.

587
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Yeah.

588
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,000
But yeah, I think that's a fair consideration at least.

589
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Yeah.

590
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,000
I think, yeah.

591
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,000
Anyhow, all that stuff in his backpack.

592
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Yeah.

593
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,000
Well, some of that may or may not have been used.

594
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,000
Yeah.

595
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,000
Oh.

596
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,000
When the eight of ones appears reversed, you may feel overwhelmed by the activity around you.

597
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,000
Unexpected changes can throw you off balance.

598
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:20,000
You may be required to travel or relocate, though, although you'd rather not.

599
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,000
I evacuate.

600
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,000
This card says, "Stop, world.

601
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,000
I want to get off."

602
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:37,000
In a reading about money, this card may mean money goes out faster than it comes in.

603
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,000
Or you may need to make financial decisions quickly.

604
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:51,000
In a reading about your job, the reversed eight indicates an exceptionally busy period when you have to work harder than usual.

605
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,000
During this stressful time, you may feel unequal to the task.

606
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Perhaps you'll do lots of work related traveling now.

607
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,000
Oh.

608
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,000
That makes me think of the teacher.

609
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Yeah, I think of the teacher and then like the SWAT team, you know?

610
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,000
Yeah.

611
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,000
And they do have to travel.

612
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Yeah.

613
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:16,000
It's a pretty large overall area that they serve and their own call.

614
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,000
And I know like the money part was talking about money, but I think it could just be anything.

615
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000
Like you need to make decisions quickly because like, it's going down.

616
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Yeah.

617
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,000
I agree.

618
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:33,000
In a reading about love, a relationship seems to be happening too fast and you feel out of control.

619
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Sometimes this card can indicate an illicit, passionate affair.

620
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,000
And I don't like any of that in relation to this case.

621
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,000
Yeah.

622
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,000
I mean, we know what happened.

623
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,000
Yeah.

624
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:53,000
Do you want to, is there anything in our little book?

625
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,000
Yeah, weirdly enough.

626
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,000
I turned right to it eight of ones.

627
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,000
Is that what it was?

628
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,000
Yeah.

629
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Okay.

630
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,000
It's a V-A-U-X, bow, bow, yeah, bow swifts.

631
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,000
I don't know what those are.

632
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Swifts, swifts.

633
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,000
Because we don't know.

634
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,000
We're not always talking about Taylor Swift ever.

635
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,000
Yeah.

636
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,000
I mean, not always.

637
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,000
Sometimes we're talking about what's his butt.

638
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,000
Her play friend.

639
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,000
Oh, I was like, Mr. Swift.

640
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,000
Yeah.

641
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Yeah.

642
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,000
Yeah.

643
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,000
Okay.

644
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,000
This says, speed, action, change, swiftness.

645
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000
And it's happening too fast.

646
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,000
Chaos.

647
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Progress.

648
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Which is like, maybe there was some progress made in like how it was handled and stuff.

649
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:41,000
I mean, even you said they acted faster than they did at Columbine.

650
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,000
Yeah.

651
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,000
And I do think that the, I love you guys.

652
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:53,000
Foundation is that's, that's something that like that's the type of progress that we only

653
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,000
make as a society.

654
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:03,000
When we're faced with something truly ugly like this, I think.

655
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,000
That's so crazy that she got out of text like that was.

656
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,000
Yeah.

657
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Well, and this was something that I didn't explicitly include in kind of the body of the

658
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,000
episode.

659
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,000
But at one point, the students that were in the classroom, they were told to get out their

660
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:31,000
phones and, you know, like, basically like, you know, reach out to your families and, oh,

661
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,000
my God.

662
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,000
It's like such like mental torture.

663
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,000
Yeah.

664
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:45,000
So presumably, that's at the point when, you know, Emily was able to text back the number that

665
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,000
reached out to her on behalf of her father.

666
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,000
God.

667
01:03:50,000 --> 01:04:03,000
So, but she, you know, as awful as every bit of this scenario is, she did, she did leave

668
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:13,000
this world knowing that immediately his instinct was to do, however possible, to reach out to

669
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,000
her father.

670
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:20,000
And that's both really powerful in a beautiful way, but also really sad.

671
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,000
Yeah.

672
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Was there more in the little, there's a story and it's like a page.

673
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,000
So it's not, it's not very long.

674
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,000
Okay.

675
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:38,000
In the cold, autumn sky, thousands of swiss generate heat through entropy, entropy and proximity.

676
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,000
What's entropy?

677
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,000
And it's energy that's created by motion, I think.

678
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,000
I may not be explaining that totally correctly.

679
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,000
It's fucking science, baby.

680
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,000
Yeah.

681
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Yeah.

682
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,000
That's why I'm not sure.

683
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,000
So they're generating heat through like flying around each other, basically.

684
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Yeah.

685
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,000
They whirl and circle, drawing geometries to complex detrace.

686
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
They are a cloud of particles.

687
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Ooh, we're talking about science.

688
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Oh, why?

689
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:17,000
Yeah, I guess the words asked me to say science, but it's still sciencey.

690
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
Yeah.

691
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,000
They are cloud of particles, somehow not colliding as the phases of their waveforms intertwine.

692
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,000
Oh, wow.

693
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Ooh, that's like kind of like bombing.

694
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000
Yeah.

695
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:36,000
But I mean, I think if you think about it in almost more of just a strictly metaphysical type

696
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:50,000
of way or metaphorical, maybe as the right word, it's more, it just speaks to how people's lives can be intertwined in these sort of like inextricable ways.

697
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Yeah.

698
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Yeah.

699
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,000
And I just had a vision of like a bunch of kids like running around like trying not to collide with each other.

700
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Right.

701
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,000
That's kind of what I think.

702
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Like chaos.

703
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000
And yeah, I know the birds kind of like are freaking me out too.

704
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Yeah.

705
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Okay.

706
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,000
If it's--

707
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,000
Oh, cool, cool.

708
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,000
[SIGHS]

709
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,000
Their motion is both random and coordinated.

710
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,000
A system too complex to understand appears as chaos.

711
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:22,000
But to the swifts, it is understood instinctually.

712
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,000
Their chaos is their vivacity.

713
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,000
Mm.

714
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,000
The entropy is a collective airborne dance.

715
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:39,000
This is a celebration of movement itself of the passage south of the quest for warmer winds.

716
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,000
Interesting.

717
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,000
Yeah, totally just like the visual of like all the birds, like chaotically flying around is.

718
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,000
Yeah.

719
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,000
Crazy.

720
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,000
That's kind of intense.

721
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Yeah.

722
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,000
Wow.

723
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,000
Okay, can we not do like another school shooting ever again?

724
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
I mean, one of them--

725
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,000
So realistically, this wasn't a school shooting. It's a hostage crisis.

726
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Yeah.

727
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,000
It happened to take place in a high school.

728
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,000
Yeah.

729
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:14,000
She said it was like almost school shooting.

730
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,000
Yeah.

731
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Like I don't think that was--

732
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,000
They were put a van.

733
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Yeah.

734
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,000
You know, and it's interesting because I don't--

735
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,000
I don't think that was ever really the intention.

736
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,000
But yeah, that's, of course, a thousand percent.

737
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,000
That's immediately where your head goes to, of course.

738
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Yeah.

739
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,000
Of course.

740
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,000
All right.

741
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Are you ready for an update?

742
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,000
Oh, yes, I am.

743
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,000
Yeah.

744
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Okay.

745
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:45,000
This will be hopefully kind of short and sweet.

746
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,000
Do you remember?

747
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,000
There was a case that actually I asked both you and Chris.

748
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,000
He said, "Are you guys comfortable with me covering this?"

749
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,000
I don't remember.

750
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Do you remember me asking you at all?

751
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Or do you just not remember the case?

752
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,000
I don't think I remember at all.

753
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,000
Really?

754
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,000
Yeah.

755
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,000
I feel like for you, it was just such like a non-thing.

756
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,000
I was like, "Yeah, do it. I don't care."

757
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,000
Yeah.

758
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:25,000
That's what I'm exactly like for you, it was like, "Why would I try to stop you?"

759
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,000
And I'm like, "Well, I don't know.

760
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,000
I had concerns about like, is this unsafe?"

761
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Oh.

762
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
And obviously, I covered it.

763
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,000
So, yeah.

764
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,000
Nobody tried to stop me.

765
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Now I kind of vaguely remember.

766
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,000
And I was just like, "I trust you that you know what's..."

767
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,000
Yeah.

768
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,000
So we talked about a case from Anchorage, Alaska.

769
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:59,000
And it was the really horrific, brutal murder of Shelley Connolly.

770
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:07,000
And her case went unsolved for nearly five decades.

771
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:14,000
And then it was linked to a man in Gresham, Oregon.

772
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:20,000
And he used genetic genealogy to track his ass down.

773
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,000
So I'm going to give you a few kind of bullet points here.

774
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:35,000
So, let me pull up my article with the update, because I may read some excerpts of it really quick.

775
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:44,000
And we are talking about Donald McQuade, who killed a 16-year-old girl in 1978.

776
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:53,000
He was indicted in October of 2019, once they tracked his suddenly not so happy ass down.

777
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:03,000
And then in March of 2020, Alaska started allowing bail hearings for prisoners during COVID,

778
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,000
and kind of based on special circumstances.

779
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Donald was released, and then in the summer of 2021, Shelley's mother, Judy, passed away before seeing the end of the trial.

780
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:35,000
When we released our episode in February of 2022, we assumed he would either die because of his advanced cancer.

781
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:44,000
If having to battle COVID, that he contracted in custody didn't.

782
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:53,000
So now we have an update, and this is super recent. This article is dated as of yesterday.

783
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:58,000
Oh, it's like lunchtime, breaking news. You heard it here first.

784
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,000
Yeah, and to be honest, I didn't think we would get an update in this case.

785
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,000
So I certainly haven't actively been looking, but the good news.

786
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:15,000
Ultimately, an Anchorage jury found the Oregon man guilty of first and second-degree murder.

787
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:26,000
And this is a quote, "We hope that Shelley's loved ones are able to obtain some closure in light of this sentence."

788
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:36,000
The state asked the court to impose a 50-year sentence because it appropriately considers the seriousness and severity of this crime,

789
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,000
as well as Mr. McQuade's advanced age.

790
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:49,000
The Department of Law thanks the Alaska State Troopers, the Alaska Scientific Crime Detection Lab,

791
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:57,000
and the Gresham Police Department for their partnership and dedication throughout the life of this case.

792
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Meanwhile, the defense proposed a shorter sentence of 20 years. 20 years will likely mean life in prison for Mr. McQuade, the defense said.

793
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:17,000
On Friday, Judge Andrew Peterson followed the state's recommendation of 50 years in confinement.

794
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:24,000
"Quite frankly, I think that's really on the lower end," Peterson said.

795
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:31,000
"If we were here 20, 30, 40 years ago, we would be looking at a much higher sentence.

796
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:38,000
At Friday's sentencing, family members of Connolly pushed for McQuade to receive the maximum sentence,

797
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:44,000
sharing in victim letters that McQuade lacked any remorse."

798
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:49,000
McQuade responded that he remains innocent.

799
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,000
"Okay."

800
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,000
So, wow.

801
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:59,000
He's got about 50 years to go ahead and keep on claiming he's innocent.

802
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,000
"Now I hope he lives a lot longer."

803
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,000
"Yeah."

804
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,000
"Did they cure his cancer?"

805
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:13,000
"No idea. I'm not sure. It doesn't include anything in terms of a medical update. I'm sure that's a hippy thing."

806
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:24,000
"Yeah. This is a young girl that he brutally killed on the side of Suward Highway in Alaska."

807
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,000
"I remember no."

808
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,000
"Yeah."

809
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,000
"I guess I'm not too worried about our safety anymore, either."

810
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,000
"Yeah. That's good. Me neither. I wasn't really to begin with."

811
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:46,000
"Yeah. Once I found out that he had advanced stage cancer and that he had also been struggling with COVID, I was a little less concerned.

812
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,000
But, you know, I mean, this is, we live here."

813
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,000
"Yeah."

814
01:13:50,000 --> 01:14:00,000
"So, to me, I felt selfish and potentially irresponsible to not talk to you guys like, "Hey, just FYI."

815
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,000
"That doesn't make sense. Thank you for thinking of me."

816
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,000
"Of course. I love you, but I still..."

817
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,000
"Are we done?"

818
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,000
"We're done."

819
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,000
"I'm still sorry."

820
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:14,000
"Let's go. Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday."

821
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,000
"I think we'll be here. I don't know."

822
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:23,000
"She might be running like 10 minutes behind me still. I might be late."

823
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,000
"Molly, late."

824
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,000
"Oh no!"

825
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:38,000
"I'm not going to be late."

826
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:43,000
"I'm not going to be late."

827
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,000
"Also, what about a substitute tissue?"

828
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:53,000
"I was trying to combine teacher and issues."

829
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,000
"Substitute issue."

830
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,000
"How about a tissue for your issues?"

831
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,000
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