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So it's like another example of like a kind of
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a fake cryptid, but like actually helps protect and preserve
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like real animals and real habitats.
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Honestly, it's a strong strategy.
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Yeah. Yeah, we're weird over here in the P ANDW.
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I don't know if they do this shit like anywhere
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else in the world, but here we are.
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I mean, listen, it's working here. So I feel like
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if if you're not doing it elsewhere, maybe adopt the practice.
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Yeah, you know, Hi Caitlin, Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people.
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Hello, what's up?
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How you doing that? This is PNW Hanson Homicides where
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we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and anything creepy
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and weird and spooky. Ukie Dookie in the Pacific Northwest. Dookie,
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you said, dooky did or the P and W. If
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you're nasty, you are so nasty. That's why you're here,
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because we're nasty and we're all creepy, nasty, weird people together.
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Yeah, we did some market research. It was very unscientific,
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but it did return a result of.
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One one hunder nasty. That's interesting that you're talking about
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like research, because my episode might be it's kind of
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about some research research. Yeah, so that's interesting. You're picking
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up a vibe you always do, I always do, well,
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Oh we before we get started. We also do a
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tarah reading at the end of every episode, just for
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a little deeper insight into our topic and for you know,
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a little palate cleanser and a little fun. Yeah. We
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just it gives us more chance to talk about like
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things we might not have thought about while we're chatting
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in the episode. Like, It's true they do come up
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during Taro.
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Yeah, and I feel like there's something about like, even
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if you're not super into the woo woo of it all,
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just like the imagery of Taro to me is always
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really powerful. Yeah, and like you kind of pick up
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on sort of like colors or themes or symbols that
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I don't know.
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It gets us talking. Yeah, we like it. We like
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the other conversation point. You know that guy doesn't like
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to talk. He likes the room. Yeah, what are you
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gonna do? Talk through it? Yeah, it's gonna be in
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our episode, And that's fine.
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Some people's kids, am I right?
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You can't get rid of all background noise as much
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as you try, That's what I've heard. Yeah, as much
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as the editor wants to. Yeah, your I feel like
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your eyes just crossed, really really goddamn. Anyway, well, should
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we get into it. Let's die. I have a fun
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one for you, because so last episode, you guys may
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have noticed I wasn't there. You might not have noticed.
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We were joking about that. I was like, I think
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we should just go into it.
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I left that all in.
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Yeah, okay, great, okay, great, I thought that was part
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of it.
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I don't know I was in here.
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I just was like, do you thinks they'll notice?
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Of course they would. But my favorite part of the
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last episode it is the outdake where I didn't specifically
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get permission. No you you did? You never really back,
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So no I did.
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You didn't.
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You said we're going to listen to it, oh all
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the way, and then you never but you were camping,
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so yeah, I was camping. Well anyway, okay, So my
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point was I missed your birthday episode, which you guys
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didn't even mention it was your birthday. I know, well
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I'm out the day after your birthday. I think, yeah, yeah,
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so since it's your birthday quote unquote episode, since I
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wasn't here, I picked something fun and not too scary,
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since I mean, you tortured me for my birthday.
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But I was like, I'm going to be a better person. Honestly,
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it was very unintentional. I just thought something very old
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timey and like aligning with your day day.
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I was like, it's synchronicity. This will be so cool.
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And then it got so uncool.
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It it really really really did. But so we're going
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to do something fun day. We're going to talk about
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a couple of different cryptids in the P ANDW. And
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the first one you've heard of and you were obsessed
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the trioctopus. Oh, and you're like, when you to talk
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about the trioctopus, we need to have So now we're
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going to talk about the street us or the trictopus
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is I like to call it? Oh my god, the
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trioctapus has a website. Help save the indentured Pacific north indentured.
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I was like, oh no, that's not rights.
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Enslaves these rare species. Please don't. That's really unfortunate. They
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have their troubles already, very unethical. It's not right you guys.
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Help save the endangered Pacific Northwest trioctopus from extinc chion.
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I mean it makes sense. You hate to see it.
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So the Northwest trio octopus or octopus paksar bolus. Wow,
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that's its scientific name. I love it. The website says
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they can be found in temperate rainforests of the Olympic
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Peninsula on the west coast of North America. Why if
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you scroll down like a tiny bit, how's like a
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little map of like Seattle, okay, the rivers where it
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can kind of be found. And I think the other
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orange part is maybe the forest area can be found
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because they are like the beginning of their life and
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their mating season. They are underwater in the rivers. Oh interesting,
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and then they kind of come out and live their
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lives in the trees.
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Oh so very amphibious of them.
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Yes, yeah, like a frog, yeah, kind of like they're
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kind of like frogs.
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Their average size is thirty to thirty three centimeters. And
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we've talked about it before. Don't really know centimeters whyse.
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Okay, So thirty centimeters is eleven point eight one one
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inches okay, so almost a foot like a paper, like
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a piece of paper.
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So it's about a foot. So the it does stay
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on the website. The treoctopus is and I did read
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octopuses and octopi are both acceptable. This says octopuses on
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the website.
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I like it.
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They are amphibious like froggies.
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I always forget the term for them cephalopods.
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Oh yes, okay, So because of the moisteness of the rainforests,
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that's why they can live in the trees. And they
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they would prefer to be in like a little puddle
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of water or something, but because the rainforest is so moist,
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they can, you know, live in the trees. Honestly, that
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kind of makes sense. Not a scientist, but I think
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it makes perfect sense. I don't like it. I don't
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know what anyone else is talking about. These are seem legit.
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Honestly, I've always thought that they're very cool sea creatures,
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and I wish that I had more of an occasion
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to interact with them, as long as they're not evil
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like Ursula.
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Is she evil? Or she misunderstood? It says here on
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the website that evolutionary theorists say that they're kind of
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adapting the way that primates have. Like, for you, that
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makes sense. So they're like emerging out of the water
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right using all their limbs to like live out of
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the water, so there could be like octopus humans running
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around soon. We don't.
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Honestly, you're presenting this like it might be kind of
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like out there or undesirable, and in no way do
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I find that to be the case. I honestly, I
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was thinking about immediately, like think about how much shit
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I could get done if I had eight hands.
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Seriously, I mean tentacles, but you know what I mean.
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And if you could like change your like skin color,
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like blend in with things I don't bother you. It's
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literally like dreams goals to be an ostopus. And they're
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so smart already, so they're basically like humans.
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I mean, they're very, very smart. Have you seen markably
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bright creatures?
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No, I really want to. Oh, it's really good. I
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just have to say, because I am a reader that
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I read it first and then I watched the movie.
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Oh.
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It says on the website they're not officially listed on
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the Endangered Special List species list, but the levels are
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so low of these guys that they just like need
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to be on the list. So it's kind of like
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what the website is about is to try to like
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get them saved, get them on the list and the
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reasons they are not quite endangered but like almost is
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it like pre endangered? Is that okay?
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No?
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I think it is.
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Actually yeah, I think the endangered species list has like
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kind of tears tears, yeah, okay, like there's near extinction.
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I'm sure they have their own terms, but yeah.
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Pre endangered we're gonna we're gonna go with that, okay.
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Like the reasons though are because of logging and city
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being built in their habitat, pollutions a big one. Predators
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like cats apparently cats.
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Getting cats or just like house cats.
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Both I don't really know. I assume bigger cats, but
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maybe housecuts.
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But we have a lot of like we've seen in
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the news recently, like here in Oregon, like cats, yeah,
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the cats, like it can be ape cats.
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The ape cats could be getting the treoctopus, oh my god.
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But also its predators are the bald eagle and sasquatch.
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Shut the likes to get them a little sushi every
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now and then.
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Anay and bald eagles. That make sense.
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Another thing that endangers the treo octopus is the trioctopus trade.
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I guess they were trading these guys what like yeah,
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for for why, I don't know, just killing them and
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train them for maybe to eat, maybe to like make
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us hat. Oh the hold hat?
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The hat?
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Scroll down? There is hats. What This one is from
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the what is it? The Cascadia Evening Post in the
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nineteen twenties, and it it features a woman wearing an
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octopus hat. I don't know, how do you make it
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into leather? Like? How do you make it? I know,
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because preserve it?
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Like the whole thing about them is they have to
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be like what they have to be.
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I'm sorry, excuse me.
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They have to be moist.
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You don't want a moist hat, though, so they must
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make it like some like leathery, yeah, somehow.
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Which I feel like almost kind of like does that
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not just completely ruin the I don't know, I'm very curious.
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I don't know. I really don't want to see one
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of these hats.
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I kind of don't either, but I also do like
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the illustration is probably as much as I can handle.
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I'm not gonna liets.
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Yeah right, it's kind of we need to save this
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and post it to the socials, for sure, But like
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there's a little part of me that's feeling a little activated.
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It's giving like kind of ed gean, Oh oh yeah, yeah,
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I bet they have lamp shades. About shades.
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I feel like they would be terrible lamp shades.
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Is their skin see through? We don't do we know.
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I feel like they're pretty translucent translation translucent skin. Yeah,
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but we don't want that. No, nobody wants that's not
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we don't want that. I feel like we just have.
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So many other options in terms.
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Of like textiles.
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They just feel like, maybe we just stop making things
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out of other things skin.
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Because then, you know, over harvesting and yeah, I mean
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to endangerment quite literally.
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Really, you know when we're using these you know, quote
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unquote natural resources. You know, the beaver pelts. You think
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back to the days of whaling. There's so many examples
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where it's like, oh huh, I wonder how those ended
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up in danger.
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Okay, so I'm gonna read from the website here.
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While efforts were made in the past to preserve remaining
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tree octopus habitat, these were met with resistance by the
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timber industry, of course, which has traditionally viewed the tree
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octopus as a nuisance. Why well, both because I'm just
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going to keep reading both because the octopuses favor the
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valuable moss shrouded trees of old growth forests, pitting conservation
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needs against lucrative sources of lumber. It also says they
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would like get stuck in the sawmills and gumming up
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is what it says.
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Terrible, Oh my god, and stained pulp that with their ink.
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Yeah, that is so dark. Isn't that gross? That's really gross?
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Well, because here's the thing is either you pissed off
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the octopus and it like inked at you, or the