Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus & Tacoma's King Octopus: Washington Cryptid Legends

0:02 So it's like another example of like a kind of a fake cryptid, but like actually helps protect and preserve like real animals and real habitats. Honestly, it's a strong strategy. Yeah. Yeah, we're weird over here in the P ANDW. I don't know if they do this shit like anywhere else in the world, but here we are. I mean, listen, it's working here. So I feel like if if you're not doing it elsewhere, maybe adopt the practice. Yeah, you know, Hi Caitlin, Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Hello, what's up?

0:44 How you doing that? This is PNW Hanson Homicides where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and anything creepy and weird and spooky. Ukie Dookie in the Pacific Northwest. Dookie, you said, dooky did or the P and W. If you're nasty, you are so nasty. That's why you're here, because we're nasty and we're all creepy, nasty, weird people together. Yeah, we did some market research. It was very unscientific, but it did return a result of.

1:24 One one hunder nasty. That's interesting that you're talking about like research, because my episode might be it's kind of about some research research. Yeah, so that's interesting. You're picking up a vibe you always do, I always do, well, Oh we before we get started. We also do a tarah reading at the end of every episode, just for a little deeper insight into our topic and for you know, a little palate cleanser and a little fun. Yeah. We just it gives us more chance to talk about like things we might not have thought about while we're chatting in the episode. Like, It's true they do come up during Taro.

2:06 Yeah, and I feel like there's something about like, even if you're not super into the woo woo of it all, just like the imagery of Taro to me is always really powerful. Yeah, and like you kind of pick up on sort of like colors or themes or symbols that I don't know. It gets us talking. Yeah, we like it. We like the other conversation point. You know that guy doesn't like to talk. He likes the room. Yeah, what are you gonna do? Talk through it? Yeah, it's gonna be in our episode, And that's fine. Some people's kids, am I right?

2:48 You can't get rid of all background noise as much as you try, That's what I've heard. Yeah, as much as the editor wants to. Yeah, your I feel like your eyes just crossed, really really goddamn. Anyway, well, should we get into it. Let's die. I have a fun one for you, because so last episode, you guys may have noticed I wasn't there. You might not have noticed. We were joking about that. I was like, I think we should just go into it. I left that all in. Yeah, okay, great, okay, great, I thought that was part of it. I don't know I was in here.

3:31 I just was like, do you thinks they'll notice? Of course they would. But my favorite part of the last episode it is the outdake where I didn't specifically get permission. No you you did? You never really back, So no I did. You didn't. You said we're going to listen to it, oh all the way, and then you never but you were camping, so yeah, I was camping. Well anyway, okay, So my point was I missed your birthday episode, which you guys didn't even mention it was your birthday. I know, well I'm out the day after your birthday. I think, yeah, yeah, so since it's your birthday quote unquote episode, since I wasn't here, I picked something fun and not too scary, since I mean, you tortured me for my birthday.

4:18 But I was like, I'm going to be a better person. Honestly, it was very unintentional. I just thought something very old timey and like aligning with your day day. Yeah. I was like, it's synchronicity. This will be so cool. And then it got so uncool. It it really really really did. But so we're going to do something fun day. We're going to talk about a couple of different cryptids in the P ANDW. And the first one you've heard of and you were obsessed the trioctopus. Oh, and you're like, when you to talk about the trioctopus, we need to have So now we're going to talk about the street us or the trictopus is I like to call it? Oh my god, the trioctapus has a website. Help save the indentured Pacific north indentured.

5:12 I was like, oh no, that's not rights. Enslaves these rare species. Please don't. That's really unfortunate. They have their troubles already, very unethical. It's not right you guys. Help save the endangered Pacific Northwest trioctopus from extinc chion. I mean it makes sense. You hate to see it. So the Northwest trio octopus or octopus paksar bolus. Wow, that's its scientific name. I love it. The website says they can be found in temperate rainforests of the Olympic Peninsula on the west coast of North America. Why if you scroll down like a tiny bit, how's like a little map of like Seattle, okay, the rivers where it can kind of be found. And I think the other orange part is maybe the forest area can be found because they are like the beginning of their life and their mating season. They are underwater in the rivers. Oh interesting, and then they kind of come out and live their lives in the trees.

6:26 Oh so very amphibious of them. Yes, yeah, like a frog, yeah, kind of like they're kind of like frogs. Yeah. Their average size is thirty to thirty three centimeters. And we've talked about it before. Don't really know centimeters whyse. Okay, So thirty centimeters is eleven point eight one one inches okay, so almost a foot like a paper, like a piece of paper. So it's about a foot. So the it does stay on the website. The treoctopus is and I did read octopuses and octopi are both acceptable. This says octopuses on the website.

7:06 I like it. They are amphibious like froggies. I always forget the term for them cephalopods. Oh yes, okay, So because of the moisteness of the rainforests, that's why they can live in the trees. And they they would prefer to be in like a little puddle of water or something, but because the rainforest is so moist, they can, you know, live in the trees. Honestly, that kind of makes sense. Not a scientist, but I think it makes perfect sense. I don't like it. I don't know what anyone else is talking about. These are seem legit. Honestly, I've always thought that they're very cool sea creatures, and I wish that I had more of an occasion to interact with them, as long as they're not evil like Ursula.

7:55 Is she evil? Or she misunderstood? It says here on the website that evolutionary theorists say that they're kind of adapting the way that primates have. Like, for you, that makes sense. So they're like emerging out of the water right using all their limbs to like live out of the water, so there could be like octopus humans running around soon. We don't. Honestly, you're presenting this like it might be kind of like out there or undesirable, and in no way do I find that to be the case. I honestly, I was thinking about immediately, like think about how much shit I could get done if I had eight hands.

8:38 Seriously, I mean tentacles, but you know what I mean. And if you could like change your like skin color, like blend in with things I don't bother you. It's literally like dreams goals to be an ostopus. And they're so smart already, so they're basically like humans. I mean, they're very, very smart. Have you seen markably bright creatures? No, I really want to. Oh, it's really good. I just have to say, because I am a reader that I read it first and then I watched the movie. Oh. It says on the website they're not officially listed on the Endangered Special List species list, but the levels are so low of these guys that they just like need to be on the list. So it's kind of like what the website is about is to try to like get them saved, get them on the list and the reasons they are not quite endangered but like almost is it like pre endangered? Is that okay?

9:39 No? I think it is. Actually yeah, I think the endangered species list has like kind of tears tears, yeah, okay, like there's near extinction. I'm sure they have their own terms, but yeah. Pre endangered we're gonna we're gonna go with that, okay. Like the reasons though are because of logging and city being built in their habitat, pollutions a big one. Predators like cats apparently cats. Getting cats or just like house cats. Both I don't really know. I assume bigger cats, but maybe housecuts. But we have a lot of like we've seen in the news recently, like here in Oregon, like cats, yeah, the cats, like it can be ape cats.

10:29 The ape cats could be getting the treoctopus, oh my god. But also its predators are the bald eagle and sasquatch. Shut the likes to get them a little sushi every now and then. Anay and bald eagles. That make sense. Another thing that endangers the treo octopus is the trioctopus trade. I guess they were trading these guys what like yeah, for for why, I don't know, just killing them and train them for maybe to eat, maybe to like make us hat. Oh the hold hat? The hat? Scroll down? There is hats. What This one is from the what is it? The Cascadia Evening Post in the nineteen twenties, and it it features a woman wearing an octopus hat. I don't know, how do you make it into leather? Like? How do you make it? I know, because preserve it?

11:26 Like the whole thing about them is they have to be like what they have to be. I'm sorry, excuse me. They have to be moist. You don't want a moist hat, though, so they must make it like some like leathery, yeah, somehow. Which I feel like almost kind of like does that not just completely ruin the I don't know, I'm very curious. I don't know. I really don't want to see one of these hats. I kind of don't either, but I also do like the illustration is probably as much as I can handle. I'm not gonna liets. Yeah right, it's kind of we need to save this and post it to the socials, for sure, But like there's a little part of me that's feeling a little activated.

12:14 It's giving like kind of ed gean, Oh oh yeah, yeah, I bet they have lamp shades. About shades. I feel like they would be terrible lamp shades. Is their skin see through? We don't do we know. I feel like they're pretty translucent translation translucent skin. Yeah, but we don't want that. No, nobody wants that's not we don't want that. I feel like we just have. So many other options in terms. Of like textiles. They just feel like, maybe we just stop making things out of other things skin. Because then, you know, over harvesting and yeah, I mean to endangerment quite literally.

13:00 Really, you know when we're using these you know, quote unquote natural resources. You know, the beaver pelts. You think back to the days of whaling. There's so many examples where it's like, oh huh, I wonder how those ended up in danger. Okay, so I'm gonna read from the website here. Yeah. While efforts were made in the past to preserve remaining tree octopus habitat, these were met with resistance by the timber industry, of course, which has traditionally viewed the tree octopus as a nuisance. Why well, both because I'm just going to keep reading both because the octopuses favor the valuable moss shrouded trees of old growth forests, pitting conservation needs against lucrative sources of lumber. It also says they would like get stuck in the sawmills and gumming up is what it says.

14:00 Terrible, Oh my god, and stained pulp that with their ink. Yeah, that is so dark. Isn't that gross? That's really gross? Well, because here's the thing is either you pissed off the octopus and it like inked at you, or the octopus got it just got all chopped up in the ink sack. Yeah, it leaked and stained everything. No, so laggers didn't didn't much care for these creatures. They regarded them as bad luck obviously, which is so stupid because I mean, if they're if they're going to stain this whole thing or like ruin their equipment, that is I mean, I mean, you're you're the bad luck human.

14:49 Well literally stained pulp that you realize what pulp is, it's fucking pulp, it's tree pole. Yeah. Don't they make that into paper like paper or black papers the white paper like they can bleach it, I'm sure, but like either way it seems like you should be able to treat that byproduct and change the color of it. I don't know, I'm just saying maybe that just like costs more for them. I guess they consider that bad luck. You're killing the environment. Stoody Ruckefeller. You'll make fifteen cents last.

15:33 So they started just killing them off on site because they were such a nuisance around the logging camps. And it says anti octopus sentiment was so strong among loggers that some even began to fear that the octopus were prone to attacking humans. But like based on what though, I feel like that's just like a self defense, Like, oh, it was attacking me, so I can kill it and then it won't. Oh, I mean sure, like when in doubt, just you know, lie. These fears, the fears of from the loggers of the attacks from the trioctopus, were fueled in no small part by gratuitous stories involving trioctopuses harassing lumberjacks and distressing damsels in Northwestern The pulp magazine What Oh, Pulp pulp magazine.

16:24 It all circles back. This is a thing. Though they were talking about the treoctopus in the magazines nipping, entangling, suckering the flesh of the heroes. Oh my god. But the magazine relies on the paper, so like, is this just a little bit of like propaganda because they need the mills to be running and they don't need the ink gunking up their pulp for their paper. That's true. So I don't know if this is real or not. It does say it does say anti octopus, proper paganda campaign. Then this is where we get to what you saw earlier, the octopus, devil of the trees, terror of all loggers in the forest rangers. This was a traveling sideshow exhibit. Apparently not.

17:19 That's what it says in the caption Glenn Bone's Heartzell from nineteen forty two demonize trioctopus to the ignorant masses. That's not very nice. Well, I mean, ignorant just means we don't know, lack of understanding. Yeah, and then if this is the first info you're getting about the trioctopus, you might also think they are devils of the trees. Yeah, so I probably would. Maybe I think it was. A big conspiracy because they were just a nuisance, which is what the website agrees with. Me, Yeah, yeah, I mean. Wow, okay, so are are you planning on reading any of the sightings?

18:06 We can go there? I have no idea we can. Of them are like actually like looking at the picture stories, but yeah, some of them, I'm like, I don't we can go there. I finally saw it. I was like, I don't understand why this person is saying it's a sighting, and I finally saw it. They're kind of sometimes some of. Them are like actually like good, and then some of them are just copying. They're very they're very camp. I really like. The first sighting is a moss covered tree that like looks like tentacles coming out of it, but it's just like part of the tree, but it's all moss colored. It does look like an octopus. But it's too big, they say, they said, oh, they're not too giant tree.

18:53 You know. I like the one peaking. It's like I do too. That's my fame. Honestly, it took me a minute to see it. The next one, yeah, it's like all blurry, looks like a stuffed animal floating in. But that one where it's peaking, it says that one's cute. I believe that's a rhododendron, and that's definitely a roadie. Yeah, my favorite one with a dog if you zum in it's very clearly yeah stuff. Oh, I don't know. It looks like a stuffed animal in a tree. Maybe they put it there. Yeah, there's a bunch of pictures sightings.

19:40 Oh there's one of a hawk taking the tri octopus. I mean I assume you see the one of it climbing. Yes, yeah, that's a good one too. The other one with the dollar bill, I don't kind of looks like a crab. It does look like a crab. I don't know what's up with the dollar bills, because there's another one later with a dollar bill, Like is that just for like comparison, Like what do they like for their nests? Maybe? But okay, how Oh I like the Christmas tree one. There's one in a Christmas tree. Oh cute Pacific Northwest Christmas tree octopus.

20:23 That's good'. There is a ton of sources on this website. It's really funny because like all the sources are from the website. Of course they are I clicked on how can you help? And this is written very un ironically. Here are a few things that you can do to help save the Pacific Northwest treoctopus. Save them. Rite your representatives to let them know that you are concerned and that you feel the tree octopus should be included on the endangered species list and given special protection.

21:08 Everyone right, this is a call to actions right now. See right now. Take your pen and your ink, Your ink, your ink. Write to celebrities asking them to speak out on behalf of the tree octopus drinks, press, junkets and award shows. Leonardo DiCaprio write a strongly worded letter to Leonardo DiCaprio is. All about activism and environmentalism, all. About the strongly worded letters as well. Yeah, he says that in Titanic, you guys, okay. Okay, I simply must insist on reading a couple more from the how you can help?

21:48 Oh okay, go for it. Help build awareness of the tree octopus by telling your friends, co workers, or even random people on the streets. This is what we're doing right now. That's correct, We're doing our duty for the environment. Place a tentacle ribbon on your website or social media. I really like the tentacle ribbon. I was going to point that out too. I think it's very cute. It's literally like one of those like ribbons, you know, but it's in it. It's a tentacle. Participate in tree octopus awareness marches. You can demonstrate their plight during the march by having your friends dress up as tree octopuses while you attack them in a lumberjack costume.

22:36 That's fun. Where I want to join the march, you know, not necessarily unrelated. I did stumble across a very cute small dog lumberjack costume. Today you have to get Mully an octopus one because naturally, obviously Charlotte attacks her. Yeah, it's perfect. I mean the story rice itself. You have to go to the march pamphlet your neighborhood. Tentacle ribbons make excellent door knob hangers. Oh makes sense. Okay, Join and donate to an organization committed to conservation, such as Green Peas yep, Green Peas, m HM. Boycott communities that use non tree octopus safe wood harvesting practices.

23:32 Oh no, you have to move it. You have to move. Honestly, I'm sure they didn't use that for this apartment. No, they most certainly didn't. I mean it was built in the late seventies or early eighties. I would imagine sign an online petition. Nothing activates activity like an internet petition. Signed it already? Would you like to hear about their past activism? Yeah. Twenty ten May, the first Baltimore Kinetic Sculpture Race includes tree Octopus awareness vehicle. Okay, I want to see that. Yeah, I bet you do.

24:12 Oh did you find it? No? But I found a trick or treat for the treoctopus. Now you can help the tree octopuses get their favorite Halloween treats, candy corn and shrimp. They like candy corn and shrimp too. I hate candy corn. Oh, I like candy corn. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but that. Makes sense that you know candy corn and shrimp. There's a lot on this website. You guys should just go through it explore. Oh whoa, I really like the vehicle. It kind of looks like pool noodles to me. But I'm sure it's not like it my bit. It might be. It might be if you want to build an octopus pool noodles are where it's at pool noodle ooh noodles and the kids demonstrating did you see like they have a shop. So there's like bumper stickers you can buy.

25:05 I break for the Pacific Northwest trioctopus and io. So it's on the Oh I found it. I found it. Okay. Oh, and there's some other there's a bunch of other stuff you could buy. They have mugs, shirts. Okay. So it might be kind of obvious, but the Pacific Northwest trioctopus is not real big it's so different. It was created as a study in nineteen ninety eight. It was a biology college course and it was about like, do not believe everything you read about science online, but it looks pretty real to me. See. And they even they kind of faked out some of these students because a lot of them still thought that, like, this was real because they did such a convincing job. All my dish.

26:00 I kind of love that it says. Surprisingly, a high number of students did not question the species in the initial activity and assumed it was real. Wow. However, most as part of the second assessment did report it was false. Wow. Some students failed to recognize the species as a fake, in thought the species was real even after watching a parody or satirical video on YouTube. Oh my god, I don't know this, this is real, Like we literally designed this to be satirical. So but we're convinced, Wow, this is real. You know it's not real, but it's kind of all in fun, like conservation, protect the forest. I don't know why we need like a fake critter to attach to, like it to feel whios like viral. Yeah that is true, something weird out there that you're oh, no, well we can't get No, that's just too weird and we need that.

27:05 But you know, also protect the real wildlife and habitats of forest critters. So is fun. I've been wanting to talk about the woode for a long time. I love this home much. And I did say we were going to talk about a couple because there is another octopus. So this one is the Tacoma Narrows octopus. This is so weird. Okay, I think did we drive over this bridge? Oh, I know you mentioned Tacoma. I was like, oh, that's kind of funny because I have something about Tacoma in here. Bro. I think I feel like there's no way we didn't. It looks different now, I think.

27:48 But so the bridge did collapse in nineteen forty due to like really strong gusts of wind. But people did also say that there was the uh, meaty arms of a six hundred pound man eating octopus that also brought the bridge down, So I assume they rebuilt the bridge, so it's possible you. I didn't really look into that part of it. Well, I was just looking at the bridge and trying to remember, because we definitely crossed over a really big bridge on our way. Yeah, I'm excited to hear about.

28:28 This is a gigantic I mean by comparison, you're talking about a little octopus that's like twelve inches, yeah, versus like what six hundred pound pound? Uh huh? Also man eating. They both liked e man. We don't know, Well twelve inches, how much of a man are you eating? Just the first six? Maybe seven? Yeah? Okay. Uh so this is known as the king octopus. They compared it to the kraken. Just this huge octopus in mean in the river or is it? Yeah? It obviously isn't real, but there are such things as is it not? I mean, this specific octopus is not real, but there are the giant Pacific octopus. Yeah, yeah, so it's not quite.

29:35 No. These one says they can grow up to six hundred pounds and thirty feet just saying. But they're saying, like the King octopus that they said brought down the bridge and eats man. Is not I mean, six hundred pounds probably wouldn't bring down a bridge. It could eat a man, So don't fall in. But yeah, yeah, just I mean, you know, be careful. I just I had to know for science. The Tacoma Narrows Bridge spans a tidal straight connecting different basins of the Puget Sound. It doesn't actually feed directly into the Puget or into the Pacific Ocean. Okay, So but I mean it's it looks like it's not in it's not an insignificant body of water.

30:29 Yeah, so big enough for maybe a six hundred pound octopus. I'm just sying. They did say, like back in that day, they didn't really know a lot about octopus. So a lot of it was just seeing like this giant divers will like see this giant creature in the water, like, oh God, it's gonna eat me, you. Know, right, Yeah, they're assuming. Yeah, so it says here quote. Artists and writers long depicted octopuses as gigantic, bloodthirsty creatures, powerful to crush ships dubbed devilfish, so these were also known as devilfish. Yike. They were hideous of appearance, ferocious and hungry. But then like more research came out, people started to learn about them and learn that they actually weren't.

31:17 Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like that just doesn't really ring true for me. Yeah, I don't know. They used to do octopus wrestling, so they would like go down and like wrestle the octopus out of his cage or it's not cage, but it's a cave. That's what I was saying. Hey, it's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then once they knew more about octopus, they kind of like put that stuff, they stopped it. I think someone killed one too, No, because it wasn't illegal. They weren't. They they're not on the endangered list even now. It's like dog or chicken fighting, which actually I think in a lot of places both of those things are just ant grown unnecessarily, like when the packs are so stupid allegedly that you can't leave them out in the rain, but like don't kill them just.

32:15 For no reason. Yeah, that's that's what I have heard, is that like like they'll they will just look up at the sky with their mouths agape. I don't know if that's true. I don't know, it's probably not. Have you seen Molana, the dive site nearest the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse and the former home of the Octopus Wrestling World Championships. They it became a marine protected area for the giant Pacific octopus and so it's not endangered. So that's like a rare accomplishment for species that's not endangered to have a protected area apparently. Yeah, so that's pretty mean.

32:58 That makes sense. And the giant Pacific octopus have become the unofficial mascot of Tacoma. I like it. Yeah, so it's like another example of like a kind of a fake cryptid, but like actually helps protect and preserve like real animals and real habitats. Honestly, it's a strong strategy. Yeah. Yeah, we're weird over here at the PNW. I don't know if they do this shit like anywhere else in the world, but here we. I mean, listen, it's working here. So I feel like, if if you're not doing it elsewhere, maybe adopt the practice. Yeah, you know, and that's all I have. I just want to talk about a couple octopus today. I do have a Patreon bonus too. We don't record it now, but I do have a Patreon bonus about kind of a weird little cryptid as well. So we have that to look forward to. And if you're interested in joining our Patreon, you can do that. There's a link in all of the uh, all of the things. We still send you a personalized welcome card and a little mini tarot reading when you join, so you know what people like, add free episodes and that's what you get on Patreon.

34:14 It's true, It's true. That's that's a thing. Well, do you think we should do some taro for this? Yeah? But what deck are we get to do? The Pacific Northwest? There is I believe an octopus in that one. I mean, if we could do the doc deck. We could do we have so many decks. I think we should do the PNW deck. Wow. Okay, we've shuffled the cards a lot. We're drawing a card laid out in front of me. I'm feeling it out. We're drawing a card for some tree octopus. I feel like in that region when where I'm at right now? Yeah, kind of in there.

34:58 I don't know if you're filling otherwise, go with your influence. I'm feeling this one right here. Okay, that's kind of where I felt drawn is of cuffs we always draw? Shut up. That's my Grandma's said. That is so funny. Why do we always draw the same fucking cards? In our little book it says emotional energy, spirituality, intuition, love, creativity, and inner voice compassion, which I feel like that does like it with it because it's all about the creativity. It was the whole website they built about this fake creature, which is like a whole ass website fake, is it?

35:39 I honestly, I still have questions. They do say, they do say it's fake. They do have the separate little thing about the I feel like that's their responsible because I know that. Okay, if your children are listening, maybe just ear muff them briefly, okay, one, two, three, and go Okay. I understand that Santa isn't real, but I want to believe the Treoctatus is like Santa. So yeah, it's basically real. I want to believe. But a lot of creativity did go into it, oh, clearly in compassion for you know the environment. Yes, I don't know if we've read this in a while, because we draw this card so often.

36:29 It is about water, because it's cups, So that's pretty cool. Yeah, because water. I'll read this really quick. Okay, Fill a cup, why stop there? Fill another, Fill a hundred, Fill a rain cloud of cup shaped pedals with blue and purple pigment. Fill a garden with exuberant bursts of color and shape. Raise one of its mini cups to your lips, hold it to your ear, and listen to its voice, both energetic and soothing. It carries the sound of water rushing at the surface and swirling deep below. Oh, it's like a sea, shall I know. Pay attention to the voice as it comes from you, reflected by the cup back to your ear, originating from your heart. Which is that kind of cute? That kind of answers the question, like, if you want to believe in it, you can.

37:22 Just saying just saying yeah. So key words from our big book, and we did draw this in the upright, correct, Yes, Okay, new love, beginning a creative activity which kind of just behind the scenes, we're kind of in a way. Oh, that's true. Beginning a new creative activity. But also like new love of this trioctopus. Or a trio joy. This represents a gift of love, either of a personal or divine nature. This ace reminds us of the Holy Grail, the most famous chalice of all which is.

38:14 That real or is it not? We don't know, you know, you know, a legendly a legendly yeah, which. Some people believe now lies in the chellice well in Glastonbury, England. The upright ace denotes a burst of joy, the kind that comes with falling in love, oh, falling in love with the trick to us. Often its appearance heralds a new romance, but it can also represent the start of a creative project about. Which you feel happy. Okay, ok, that makes sense personally and not Yeah, and I don't know whatever, how would kill for you?

39:00 Guys? Yeah, When this beautiful card shows up, it indicates you're on an emotional high and enjoying life. I feel like after my second glass of wine. That pretty accurately describes me. Yeah, it's like I feel pretty good right now, but in like an hour, I probably won't. I'll be back to normal. Yeah. Sometimes it indicates the birth of a child or idea. Oh okay, okay. I feel like it's picking up a vibe. I don't know how much it has to do with the case. Yes, we'll see both. Well, I really think both.

39:41 In a reading about money, the ace suggests the beginning of a creative endeavor that promises to be profitable. I'm downe for that. I know. I hope it has nothing to do with the case. But they do have the shop, and so they do they could be profitable off of the very also as well, technical ribbons. Nurture it carefully and the seeds will bear fruit. If the reading is about your work, you may be starting a new job and feel. Enthusiastic about it. Okay, my me, lozup. Perhaps this position will allow you to express your creativity or fulfill a dream, even though it might take some time. Well, I mean, come on, we've been here this long. Yeah.

40:32 And also, saving the environment takes a lot of time, sure does, sure does. Particularly under the you know, not to get political again, but you know under the current administration. Right, that's true. It takes a long time to even wipe out explosive diarrhea. So yep, just just gonna leave that there, wipe it out. Wipe it out. Flushable wipe it out? What I did there? Oh boy? Why do we keep bringing up flushable wipes on the show.

41:12 It's like they're a really important part of our life. We did last time too. I love the wipes, I know, I love them so much. Don't come at me about how they clung up the system. I don't fucking care that. If they're the actual flushable wipes, I think they're okay unless you're of a septic tank, and then I think you can't use the wipees. I don't say they're not, but I don't trust it. I think it's a conspiracy to keep our butts dirty. That is the red pill side of the internet. Keep your butt dirty. I think you should wipe your butt at all. What do you think it makes you gay? I'm not kidding.

41:54 I'm not kidding. There is a segment of the internet. Yes you're gay. Yeah, there was a woman. Well I'm so gay. Her story has been shared far and why by every Reddit podcast that I listened to, and I'm sure many more. She broke up with her boyfriend. They had only lived together like a very short time, but they had been together for like a couple of years and as soon as they moved in together, he went to the red pill side of the internet and they told him that wiping his butthole, wiping his ass was gay. No, And I'm like, how are you so afraid of being gay that you will let your entire life smell like shit?

42:51 Like, honestly keep your butthole dirty because that will keep me away from you. Yeah. Yeah. She literally broke up with a man and he was like, I can't believe you're breaking up with me about like I forget how he put it, like about like a personal choice or something like that. And she's like, I'm just literally asking you to wipe your ass so that like our couch, our bed, you're fucking underwear. Oh god, can. You e imagine? What? Right? What? That's insane? I know I mean by that measure, I just want to.

43:33 Live in Europe where I can just like sit and bedey my bunghole for like a straight hour. And like everybody's like, yep. Get it. I have a detachable shower head. That's what I do with it now. I make sure she is pristine all of. The nether bit. So I'm like, they are aculate it, maculate every time I step out of the shower, if I'm in there for fifteen minutes, twelve minutes of that time I have been spraying my hoo ha and uh, you know her best friend on the backside.

44:20 My hoo ha. Oh good lord, that man. Needs a fire hose. He needs an actual fire hose. Yeah, because like at that point it gets all crusty. You're not wiping even crust but stink. And men have such hairy buttholes, your crusty, hairy butthole. That must hurt. I hope it does. Like it has to be uncomfortable discuss it's really foul. Hot take, it's not even a hot take. It is just disgusting. That has been bothering me for a long time. It is a story. Sorry that though we read Reddit stories far and few and in between. I was like, I feel like this demands our.

45:10 Well, I'm going to leave it in. And so you got your commentary on the dirty buttles. That's your birthday, Happy birthday to you, curiously. Yeah, foul, so foul. If anyone listening doesn't like their butthole, please immediately stop listening of unsubscribe, don't give us any of your money because we don't want your poop much. Honest, listen, I will just stay at my day jobs. We'll be fine without you. I think I would feel better about it. Actually, yeah, okay, we're just down to the last bullet. Okay, that an extra excerpt, but okay.

45:51 We finally read a million times and we probably have. But in the reading about love, the ace symbolizes the first stages of a romantic relationship, a time when you should indeed be wiping your ass very thoroughly. Yes, if not always, certainly in those early stages, nurture it so your lovel pluff. Sometimes it represents awakening to divine love, but only if you thoroughly clean your ash. A wicked blessing you never Thirst remembers sharing a beverage and a chalice is a popular practice in Wigan rituals. Sometimes the chalice is offered with the blessing may you never thirst.

46:54 Oh, mayor buttle never. Crist literally just thinking mayor buttle ever First, because the chalice is passed from one person to another, it may feature a long stem that makes it easier to handle. I love that for. Us also, okay, relating it back to the actual story, the long stem of the chalice could be the long tentacle of the tree to us. Also, I just think for an aquatic creature. May you never third? Yeah yeah, because yeah, Ace of cups. Well we did it again with another tarot reading spot on. All right, Oh, have a day. We'll see you next Thursday. Unless you got eaten by it treoctopus.

47:51 Or you have a hairy unwiped asshole. Yeah please, because hope you have unsubscribed. Please leave, like a hairy butt is one thing, but I'm white. It's just not right. Dingleberries. We have to go. We simply must