July 22, 2025

The Pimlico Mystery: Chloroform, Secrets, and a Victorian Acquittal

The Pimlico Mystery: Chloroform, Secrets, and a Victorian Acquittal
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They discuss the death of Thomas Edwin Bartlett, as well as why you should go to a quality dentist, why you should background check your doctors, and how not to procure poison.

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We are Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate, we are Cultivate.

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Hello and welcome to Your Crime, where we discuss the funny, strange,

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and obscure crimes of yesteryear. I'm your host, Lindsay Valenti,

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and with me is my sister and co host Matti Stangel.

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Hello.

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Hello, it has been a hot second, it has.

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Been a minute. M It's good to see your face.

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It's good to see your face too.

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You got a good looking mugania.

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Ah, so do you look Our chins are starting to

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look more similar. They did a little bit.

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That's kind of funny.

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It's funny. Well, I'm just gonna jump right into it.

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We've got two things in the not corrections, cubby, the whatever.

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a time.

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but that sounds ominous, doesn't It sounds like.

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A place you would not see yeah, CD.

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Like the like the van with candy free candy on

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the side.

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I used to think of chamber of secrets.

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And it's not ooh snakes. No, yeah, not.

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Not a jam the feel good Fortress. Just kidding, that

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sounds even worse the feel good for it. Whatever it

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was called, I should just don't know hard to figure

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out what that was and go back and find it

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one of these days. Anyway, Dashery is our new merch vendor.

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the forward facing end it's the same great stuff, but

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us because we really don't get a whole lot from

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each sale, so we don't beat like a dollar. Sorry,

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now we'll get too moving on up yep, And speaking

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of dollar dollar bills, y'all, I need to think, as

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always our lovely buy me a coffee sisteiners, who are Charlie, Elizabeth, Sarah,

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Cheryl and Mariam. So thank you, ladies, thank you so much,

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appreciate you.

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Mm hmm.

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In this week's episode is a long one. Full disclosure.

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There were some sources that I ended up not using

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because they were so intensive. I skimmed them. But I

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was like, I can'kay, I can't dive.

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Are you gonna include them so our listeners can dive deep.

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Yes, yes, I am going to include links to all

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of the rabbit holes. So if you are super like

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I need to learn all the things, you will have

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the resources to do. So nice, I got you, fam Nice.

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All right. We will be discussing the Pimlico mystery. Oh

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mm hmm, I think I'm saying that right. Let's let's see.

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Let's see, right, what is happening Pimlico. Pimlico. That sounds better, Pimlico.

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So it's one word, not too Yes.

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The Pimlico mystery. It's a town. It's the name of

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the city, all right. Information was pulled from the following sources.

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A twenty twenty two Historic Mysteries article by Lauren Dillon,

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twenty twenty two Mayfair Times blog post, twenty twenty two,

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Providentia blog posts by doctor Vitelli, twenty fifteen, Strange Tales

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blog post by Sarah Hapgood, nineteen twenty six, Sunday Mercury article,

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nineteen nineteen, Sunday Dispatch article by Philip Curtin eighteen eighty six,

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Auckland Evening Star eighteen eighty six, The Bristol Mercury and

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Daily Post, Western Countries and South Wales Advertiser eighteen eighty six,

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Cambridge Weekly News eighteen eighty six, The Hampshire Advertiser eighteen

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eighty six, The Leeds Mercury eighteen eighty six, Lloyd's Weekly

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Newspaper eighteen eighty six, The North Star eighteen eighty six,

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The Times. See a as Pree blog post historic UK

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article by Ben Johnson, Kent Maps online article trial transcripts

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that I will not spoil like I did last time.

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And Wikipedia, dang, that's thorough yep.

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I think I know what year this happened too.

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You know it was a good year.

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Context clues. I think I might have an idea.

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Yeah, slight spoilers. Thank you to Kiri Inn for her

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research assistance on this episode, and the show notes will

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include links to all of the articles that were used

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to write this episode. Now. The key players in this

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story are Thomas Edwin Bartlett who went by Edwin interesting

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Wesleyan Minister, George Dyson not to be with the vacuum guy.

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And I'm familiar with this a little.

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Bit, maybe heard of this.

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I think I might have heard of this, okay.

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And Adelaide du La tremoil de fura descrie. That was

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French and dem best that was the name. Yeah. Wow,

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Thomas so the main slash. Edwin was born on October sixteenth,

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eighteen forty five and would become a wealthy grocer from

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a very proper and close knit English family. He had

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six shops and conducted business at Herne Hill with his partner,

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mister Baxter.

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Interesting, he was known as.

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A hypochondriac with a delicate constitution, at times believing he

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had dysentery and suffered from mercury poisoning. Spoiler alert, he had.

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Neither right because he would be dead.

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Yes, but to media picture to paint, okay, picture of

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who this man is. I don't know why I'm using

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these hand motions, but I am here for it.

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Okay. So he but he wasn't like working in the

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grocery store.

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Right he owned and managed six.

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Yeah, Okay, because I was like, I was like, there's

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no way he's like manning a store. No, and being

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afraid of in a hypochondriac. There's just no way.

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No, No, he runs the thing, he runs things.

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He's like, just feed the little.

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People, you do you, mister Baxter, and bring me money yep. Adelaide,

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the daughter of Clara Chamberlain and Adolphus Kulo de Fura Discuri,

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was born in Orlan, France in eighteen fifty five. She

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was one of four children, having an older brother named

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Henry Edward, who was born in eighteen fifty three, and

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two younger siblings, Frederic born in eighteen fifty eight and

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her sister, Clara Amelia, who was born in eighteen fifty nine.

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Okay.

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Thomas Edwin Bartlett and Adelaide were married on April seventh,

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eighteen seventy five, at Saint John's Church in Croydon, when

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Edwin was thirty and Adelaide was twenty.

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So kind a typical age gap at that time.

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Yep, pretty common.

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Yeah.

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Their unusual union resulted from an arranged marriage by Adelaide's father,

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who was never publicly named. So even though like I

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listed a dad, it may or may not be her dad.

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Mmmm so maybe well, I mean during that time, people

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died constantly, so she might have had like a welster

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adoptive situation, maybe like an.

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Well, it was rumored that her dad was a nobleman.

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Oh so she was.

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Like a mistress kid maybe maybe Okay, as a result,

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neither here nor there, Adelaide came with a rather sizeable dowry,

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and her father hoped this marriage would ensure his daughter

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a proper place in English society because she may or

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may not have been a bit of a bastard.

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So it was a way of getting close to his

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daughter without kind of shaming any of them.

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Yes, we'll go with that. One of the stipulations of

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their union was that Edwin must ensure that Adelaide finished

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her education. So for the first two years of their marriage,

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remember she was nineteen slash twenty when they got married,

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Adelaide was shipped off to a convent in Belgium to

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finish her education.

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Interesting, Yeah, so definitely a nobleman or something, because like

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nobody just goes to a convent to be educated as

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a woman like that. That's like being shipped off to

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a real nice college and.

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Not not having to worry about any monies. M M,

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I'm not. Everyone was a fan of Adelaide, including Edwin's father,

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Edwin Senior, and according to Adelaide, her marriage to Edwin

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was platonic and her only pregnancy was the result of

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a single act of quote unquote unprotected coitus after much

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begging on her part for a child. She really wanted

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to have kids.

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Yeah that makes sense. I mean, if he's a hypochondriac

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and stuff, it would make sense that he would be

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less inclined to be more like physically intimate. Sure, potentially,

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I mean.

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She gave birth to a stillborn baby in November of

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eighteen eighty one. The pregnancy had been challenging, and Edwin

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refused to allow a male doctor to assist her during

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her pregnancy and the labor because he didn't want another

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man near her.

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A midwife, Annie Walker, who had been present at the birth,

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confirmed this point, and although she had begged him to reconsider,

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he firmly refused and understandably, the death devastated Adelaide, and

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the couple never again tried for another child. That's too bad,

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she was like, I can't go through that again. So

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in early eighteen eighty five, So four years later, the

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couple met minister George Dyson, who would become a frequent

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visitor to their two room flat at eighty five at

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Claverton Street, Pimlico, London. So it's like a little hamlet

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of London.

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He would soon become the couple's spiritual advisor and close friend.

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He was described as quote a young man of medium

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height with dark hair, heavy mustache and close cut whiskers

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end quote. M Minister Dyson was a graduate of Trinity

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College in Dublin, the son of a Wesleyan minister at

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Ghoul and placed in charge of a Wesleyan chapel in Merton,

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which is where the Bartlets met him, because they went

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to that chapel, got it. Minister Dyson and the Bartlets

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would form a rather unique relationship. Edwin, for reasons only

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known to him, encourage the minister and his wife to

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have an open romantic relationship with his blessing in trusting

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adelaide to Minister Dyson if he should pass away. What h.

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What?

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Yeah? Edwin also believed that he should have two wives

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to serve two purposes, one for work and one for companionship.

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So just to kind of work work is in like

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keeping up appearances.

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Work as in like keeping house, like doing the work

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of a wife, and the other one is like for

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sexy times.

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Got it, got it, got it?

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So it can't be the same, separate but equal it. Oh,

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I'm assuming I don't know.

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Probably not probably.

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Adelaide later admitted to her and minister Dyson's unusual relationship

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and Edwin's part in it. Quote he requested us in

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his presence to kiss, and he seemed to enjoy it.

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He had given me to mister Dyson. End quote.

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Hmm okay, all right, I mean this is this.

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Is a Victorian era.

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Who knows that's really funny? How scandalous this is for them?

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Mm hmm.

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I mean, I mean it would still be pretty scandalous

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for a minister to do this and have it be

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in the papers right now too. Yeah, it wouldn't be great.

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No, Minister Dyson would often be seen entering the home

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early in the morning and staying late into the afternoon.

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He even kept his coat and slippers at the Bartlett

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home and would join them on vacations.

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Yeah, that's a relationship.

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My friend Edwin just minister Dyson a season railway ticket

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so that he could quote unquote Tutor Adelaide.

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Oh boy, okay, this is just getting real. G see.

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All right, okay, this teacher student relationship didn't fool the

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bart What's made who would often catch the pair in

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positions that were certainly uncommon for such an academic education.

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One might say hands on from the sounds of it.

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Yeah, very hands on. There you go, mainly studying biology,

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dedicated dedicated to the sciences of yes, the body and

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the mind.

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Interesting mm hmm for a man of faith, but okay, And.

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For Edwin he seemed pretty serious about this, as he

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went so far as to redraw his will on September third,

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eighteen eighty five, making minister Dyson the executor of his will,

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stating that Adelaide could only claim his estate if she

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married minister Dyson.

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First, that's crazy.

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Yeah, And before this, his will had stipulated that Adelaide

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could only claim the entirety of his estate on the

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condition that she remained a widow for the rest of

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her life.

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Well, at least she had an option.

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Now now she can have a companion, I guess. Edwin

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became deathly ill at the start of December of eighteen

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eighty five, so Adelaide sent for a local doctor, doctor

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Alfred Leitch, who came to see Edwin at the Bartlett home.

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Immediately suspicious, How did he get so sick so soon

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after his will change?

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Yeah, And fun fact, doctor Leech is a bit of

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a question.

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So great perfect, Yes, just what the story needs exactly.

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There you go.

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As his illness progressed, doctor Dudley was called in on

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December nineteenth to provide a second opinion on Edwin's symptoms

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and prognosis, which is good.

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I'm not a real doctor, it's really sick.

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Asking for a friend.

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Yep.

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It's also been stated in some places that Edwin may

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have been suffering from tapeworms, which isn't outside the realm

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of possibility, considering the couple bred Saint Bernard's which they

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would regularly treat for worms.

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Well and he I mean London at this time. Yeah,

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it was disgusting, like if we get a tapeworm from

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just about anything back then. Yeah, didn't have to real

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hard to get one.

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Now. At Edwin's insistence, doctor Leech reluctantly agreed to prescribe

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him chloroform. Yeah, this story is a wild one for

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sep No. At this time in history, you had to

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sign a chemist's book at the pharmacy to provide a

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record when purchasing medical poisons, which chloroform was considered to be. However,

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this law only applies when purchasing large doses. So we'll

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come back to that later, great great so Edwin's illness

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was exacerbated by a dental disaster that he had suffered

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a decade earlier. In eighteen seventy five. Edwin back then

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had gone to the dentist, excuse me to get dentures,

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but in instead of pulling all his teeth, the dentist

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sawed them down to the gums.

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No, he did not.

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This caused the stumps and roots to rot, which caused

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him excruciating pain from that point forward for a decade.

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For yeah, a decade he lived like that. And given

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the time and even today, the extent of his dental

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disease could have proved fatal. And it's likely his teeth

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and jaw were riddled with infection.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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When Edwin's father came to visit his son, kind of

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learning of his poor health in the middle of December,

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Adelaide refused him entry.

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Yeah, I bet you looked real miserable at that point. Yeah,

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if not already dead.

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Potentially well. On December twenty fourth, so Christmas Eve, perfect timing.

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Following a checkup by doctor Leach, Edwin was told that

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his health had greatly improved, and the doctor was confident

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that he wouldn't need any more medical intervention. In fact,

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this was substantiated because Edwin traveled to the seaside, he

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went for a drive, and each day his health seemed

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to improve, so things were looking up like even his

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the landlady and his landlord agreed that his health seemed

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to have improved, improved greatly.

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Yes, crazy, okay.

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Doctor Leach accompanied Edwin and Adelaide to Edwin's dentist on

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December thirtieth, where the couple were quite affectionate with each other.

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In several articles that it noted very saply that Adelaide

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has said that she wished that they could get a

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so that they could have the enjoy the joys of

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getting married all over again. Something to that effect.

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Grouse. Yeah, there were no such thing as EO of

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vow renewals.

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Yeah. The following evening, the couple had a hearty dinner,

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and Edwin asked their landlady, missus Doggett, if she could

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prepare a large breakfast for him tomorrow, saying, quote, he

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should get up an hour earlier at the thought of

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having it end quote, So he was. He had gotten

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his appetite back. He was excitedly again and then the

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copper the cupper. The couple would later retire to bed

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all right. Early on January first, eighteen eighty six, Adelaide

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shook the family made awake, telling her to call the

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doctor immediately. Edwin's father was also called for Following this,

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Adelaide ran upstairs to get her landlord mister Frederick Thomas Doggett, saying, quote,

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come down, I think mister Bartlett is dead end quote

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no great.

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Not a good way to start the new year.

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No. Adelaide had woken that morning to discover her husband

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face down on the bed and unresponsive.

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Ew.

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Yeah. She would later go on to say that, in

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an attempt to revive him, she had turned him on

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his back and poured a pint of brandy down his throat.

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What Yep. However, her efforts were for naught. He was

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already dead at the age of forty one.

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There's so many things wrong with that. A pint of

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hard alcohol mm hmm to revive him, yep, just like

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it splash a cold water smack to the face. You're

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just gonna pour a bunch of brandy down in dead

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man's throughout.

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Apparently it's something that he would have at like a

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snifter of brandy before ben, So that was like right there.

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So he drank a pint of brandy at night.

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No, a sniffer like so like like you know, like

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a shot glass, but the brandy was there.

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Took Yeah, she just took the whole thing.

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Yeah, she probably just grabbed it and like was you know,

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I don't know how. So mister Doggett would recall that

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Adelaide stated, quote, I had fallen off to sleep with

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my hand around his foot because she hadn't actually been

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sleeping in bed with him. She had been sleeping in

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a chair next to the bed, kind of at his feet. Interesting,

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And I awoke with the pain in my arm and

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found him laying him lying on his face. I put

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him in the position in which he now is and

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tried to pour brandy down his throat end quote now

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Edwin's father, who later came after viewing his son's body,

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stated that he believed he had been poisoned using prussic acid.

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Who and witnesses who entered the room, such as the

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landlady Missus Dockett, described the room as smelling strongly of

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chloric ether.

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Reason for the brandy to be poured.

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Everywhere, So Edwin's father demanded that an autopsy be performed,

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which was granted following an inquest.

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Yeah, I bet, I bet it was. I mean, just

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all that alone, having that in the same room, you

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want something to happen.

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He immediately suspected that Adelaide had something to do with

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his son's death, especially after he'd accused her of cheating

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on her husband with his younger son, Frederick.

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War This is a new player in the game.

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Yep. I couldn't find out much about that, but that allegation.

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He had said that like early on in Edwin's marriage

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to her, and Edwin was like, not cool, dad, you

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need to send her a letter and apologize and actually

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mean it. So then he did write her a letter

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like saying, I'm sorry I slandered you. That wasn't cool.

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I'm sorry. I don't think you're an adulteress. But at

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one point, now that he's dead, he's like he did

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think she was.

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Interesting.

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Also, the timing was also very convenient, as Edwin had

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recently passed an insurance examination which insured him for four

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hundred pounds or around forty four thousand, two hundred and

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eighty six pounds today.

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Interesting. Yeah, it's not a lot of money though, considering

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like how much he was worth alive.

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Yeah, yeah, So the post mortem was conducted by doctor

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Green of charing Cross Hospital, doctor Murray, doctor Dudley, and

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doctor Cheen on January second, so the following day. At first,

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everything appeared normal. His organs looked great, his heart, his liver,

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all that stuff classic poisoning, at least until they opened

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his stomach and discovered it was full of a leafful

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dose of chloroform m between eight and nine drops or

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four ounces, which is one hundred and thirteen point four

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grams depending on who you reference. Okay, Sir Thomas Stevenson

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confirmed this and that it was the only poison present

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in his system, following an analysis that was conducted on

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January eleventh. So like a medical analysis of the contents

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of his stomach.

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I wonder if they did the alcohol to try to

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burn it, or just try to kill the chloroform hayde

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the smell or something.

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So the reason his manner of death was so peculiar

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is that his body didn't present any of the tailtale

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signs of chloroform poisoning. Chloroform is caustic and will damage

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any soft tissue it comes into contact with. In this case,

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if he had ingested it, there would be chemical burns

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on his throat and larynx, but there weren't.

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It was in the brandy.

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Also, there was no chloroform in the Bartlet home when

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it was searched. None at all.

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Chloroform.

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Tapeworms soaked in chloroform? No, no, no, no no.

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The newest diet graze.

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Adelaide would go on to admit that yes, she had

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had chloroform, but she had not killed her husband. Also,

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she had not purchased the chloroform. She had asked Minister

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Dyson to pick up some for her on December twenty

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seventh so she could rub it on Edwin's gums to

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ease his toothpain.

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Hmmm that's the reason.

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Yeah. Minister Dyson had honored Adelaide's request and provided her

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with four ounces orero point one kilograms of chloroform. Now,

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remember how I said you only had to sign the

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chemist book at the pharmacy for large doses. Minister Dyson

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skirted this by purchasing four small bottles of chloroform in

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various shops, claiming he needed it to remove grease stains.

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How did they find all this out?

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Well, police, particularly mister A. Braxton Hicks, which is a

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hilarious coincidence, by the way, what a name. Ye yeah, really,

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who led an inquest into the unusual death of Edwin.

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This was all the evidence they needed to charge Adelaide

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with quote wilful murder end quote and the minister with

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quote accessory before the fact end quote. Both were arrested,

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and Minister Dyson later admitted that he didn't realize how

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suspicious his method of purchasing chloroform was at the time.

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Sure, exactly, Oh that looks weird. That's crazy, that's crazy.

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Ah me, I love God, God doesn't kill, I don't kill.

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I'm just a Wesleyan minister.

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Jesus saves and said, do I you.

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Know Adelaide's trial at the Old Bailey started on April

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twelfth of eighteen eighty six. It would be the first

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murder trial regarding the alleged misuse of chloroform. Really, Yes,

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that's crazy, mm hmm. The trial into the death of

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Edwin took a strange turn from the get go. See

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the charges against Minister Dyson were dismissed right away, leaving

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him a free man. Who would go on to testify

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against Adelaide during her trial as a prosecution witness.

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So he doesn't want the inheritance anymore, apparently because didn't

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he have to marry her.

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To get I don't know. He just got like let

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off and they were.

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Like no, no, because he was the executor of the estate.

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So he gets to go.

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Oh now, that's dirty man. Now, due to the law

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of the time, Adelaide was not allowed to take the

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stand to provide her testimony and speak for herself at her.

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Trial because she's a woman.

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This law wouldn't be changed until years later with the

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introduction of the Criminal Evidence Act of eighteen ninety.

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Eight, because she was a criminal, yes, got it.

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So, as a result, her future hinged on the testimony

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of doctor Leech and her lawyer, Sir Edward Clark, who

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worked to convince the jury that she was innocent of

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the crime.

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I bet he worked hard.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah. And as was customary at the time,

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the Attorney General, Sir Charles Russell led the prosecution for

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the Crown. Now, during the trial, Adelaide's lawyer told the

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jury that in the eleven years that she and Edwin

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had been married, the pair had been intimate only once.

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That's insane.

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So according to Adelaide, they had a platonic relationship and

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enjoyed zero in intimacy. But before his death, Edwin had

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begun requesting his quote unquote marital rights to sex. In fact,

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following his death, no less than six condoms were found

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in his pocket, which horrified court attendees because at this

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time condoms were considered crude. And he also had in

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his possession a quote marriage manual end quote, which contained

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explicit references to sexuality and birth control, both of which

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were considered pornographic in the Victorian era.

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Yeah, I bet, and the condoms would have alluded to

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him not having sex with his wife.

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Mm hmm. So the presiding judge, Sir Alfred Wills noted

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the dangers of such a book in the hands of

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a woman and encourage the jury to pity Adelaide for

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having to be subjected to such literature, let alone being

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forced to read it.

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Yeah, sounds pretty pretty ridiculous.

479
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M h. However, this also casts doubt upon her claims

480
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.680
that her marriage was quote unquote platonic. The judge noted,

481
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.240
quote when a young wife and a younger male friend

482
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.519
get discussing in or out of the presence of the husband,

483
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.640
the possibilities of his decease within measurable time, and of

484
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.519
the friend succeeding to the husband's place. According to all

485
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.799
experience of human life, the life of the husband was

486
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.759
one that an insurance office would not like to take

487
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:52.160
end quote out. So according to Adelaide and her and

488
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.559
via her lawyer, because obviously she can't speak on her behalf,

489
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.720
she had acquired the chloroform as a way to subdue

490
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.440
at when he attempted to force her into having relations.

491
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:09.000
According to her, she had later to confessed to her

492
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.639
misdoings and turned over the bottle of chloroform to Edwin

493
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.079
out of guilt and atonement. So she she would use

494
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.199
it on a rag and like kind of wave it

495
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.639
to give him a case of the vapors so he

496
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.400
would pass out, so then she wouldn't so she so she.

497
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.199
Kept him sick steadily, just so she wouldn't have to

498
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.519
deal with him.

499
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.239
That's what they're trying to allege, that she poisoned him

500
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:41.559
over time. So oh no, she.

501
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.000
Did it like every time.

502
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:53.440
So so this testimony offered one reason as to why

503
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.199
there was chloroform in the home, but not as to

504
00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:03.000
whether this was the one that used and his death. Yeah,

505
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.440
so forensics wasn't as developed in eighteen eighty six as

506
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:07.039
it is now.

507
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.440
What surprise, he was barely developed in the nineties. Let's

508
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.679
be in the nineteen nights.

509
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.079
But the trial hinged on how exactly liquid chloroform was

510
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.679
able to get into Edwin's stomach without burning his throat

511
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:24.320
and larynx.

512
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.079
Yeah, like that's crazy.

513
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:32.199
How did it get there? So Adelaide's lawyer, he wasn't

514
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.079
the best barrister in England for nothing, Like he was

515
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:36.840
like the best that money could buy.

516
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:38.519
Oh okay.

517
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.679
He was able to put forth a strong case that

518
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:47.280
Edwin had taken his own life, stating that he had

519
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.159
believed he was terminally ill.

520
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:57.880
What this Okay? Now I can see why all those

521
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:03.400
newspapers were watching this story. What is happening?

522
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:09.800
Yeah, because because as we've pointed out, he's he was

523
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.199
a hypochondriac, right, he was regularly sick, he had tapeworms,

524
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:16.840
he's got rotten teeth.

525
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.360
Like, there's just a lot of weird things.

526
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.079
A lot of weird things. So a week after the

527
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.960
trial began, after two hours of deliberation, the jury rendered

528
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.639
a verdict of not guilty.

529
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.960
Yeah, I mean, what else are you to do? Like

530
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.159
if it would not guilty, you'd like have a mistrial like.

531
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.920
So, although the trial had been a long one, the

532
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.000
prosecution could provide no solid proof, evidence or explanation as

533
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.960
to how she poisoned her husband, and that reasonable doubt

534
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.920
led to her verdict in the court of law. So

535
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.880
following the reading of the verdict, cheers and applause rang

536
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.719
out inside the courtroom and outside because crowds of people

537
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.920
had come to watch what had become known throughout the

538
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:20.480
country as the Pimlico poison mystery. Dang so, public opinion

539
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.440
seemed to flip overnight from viewing Adelaide as the young

540
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:32.519
murderess to Edwin as this villainous pervert. Essentially, woh, but

541
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.039
that doesn't mean that everyone thought she was free of guilt.

542
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.159
Right at the close of the trial, Sir James Pageant

543
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.840
or Peget, who was a well known surgeon, was quoted

544
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.360
as saying, quote, now that she's been acquitted for murder

545
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.519
and can't be tried again, she should tell us, in

546
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:55.559
the interest of science, how she did it. End quote damn.

547
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:02.360
The Birmingham Daily Times published the following about Adelaide's acquittal. Quote.

548
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.639
Since missus Bartlett's committal, the correspondence which has been addressed

549
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.639
to her at Newgate has been of an extensive and

550
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.039
curious character. For the first week of her incarceration, anonymous

551
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:18.760
letters of abuse largely predominated, but latterly these have fallen

552
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:22.400
off and have given place to expressions of sympathy and condolence.

553
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.920
It is stated that during the last six days no

554
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.119
fewer than seventeen offers of marriage conditionally of course, on

555
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.480
her acquittal, have been directed through the post to the

556
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:37.239
unfortunate woman, and that among the claimants are an ex MP,

557
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.920
a foreign marquis, a clergyman of the established church, and

558
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.840
three members of the medical profession end quote.

559
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.800
Yeah, no, that sounds about right, honestly.

560
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:50.119
Yeah.

561
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:58.039
Yeah. People are weird, man, doesn't matter what era you're from.

562
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:04.280
Yeah. Following Adelaide's acquittal, three major theories emerged on how

563
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:05.000
Edwin died.

564
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:06.199
Am Ready.

565
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:11.559
One was that he had completed suicide, as was theorized

566
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:16.159
and postulated during the trial. Okay, so, in this theory,

567
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.159
Edwin had heard the dentists say that his gum tissue

568
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.800
was necrotic as he removed his teeth or saw them off,

569
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.800
And given that the tooth pain before the procedure was

570
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:32.599
making him sleep deprived, delusional, and likely depressed, it wouldn't

571
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.599
be outside the realm of possibility that he would panic

572
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.239
when the term necrosis was mentioned.

573
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.920
Yeah, well, especially since he was already such a hypochondriac,

574
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:43.840
you know.

575
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.039
And considering Edwin was sick for nearly a month, likely

576
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:54.079
an excruciating pain, and in a depressive state. The suicide

577
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.840
theory alleges that since he was under the impression he

578
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.559
was already dying, he chose to go on his terms

579
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.840
rather than suffer longer. This could explain why there weren't

580
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.360
any chemical burns on his throat. If he drank it

581
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.239
of his own accord, he may have swallowed it so

582
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.039
fast that it didn't have time to do any caustic

583
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.400
damage on its way down, because if you're drinking normally,

584
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.119
you would just you know, take slow, leisurely SIPs, whereas

585
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.199
if he took it sort of like a shot, maybe

586
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.960
then it wouldn't have had enough time to do a

587
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:34.840
lot of damage as it was going down his throat. Still,

588
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.360
doctor Leech, his quack doctor who treated him in the past,

589
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:47.440
proposes his theory regarding the idea of suicide. Okay, as

590
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.239
he noted in the Lancet, which was a medical journal,

591
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.920
he believes that Edwin drank the chloroform not to end

592
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.039
his life, but to get back at Adelaide. And here's

593
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:06.480
what he proposed. So doctor Leach proposes that after Adelaide

594
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:11.039
confessed to Edwin that she had chloroform, she had confided

595
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.760
to doctor Leach that she planned to use the vapors

596
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.840
to subdue him so she could avoid having sex with him.

597
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.960
As we've already mentioned in the trial, when she confessed

598
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.840
to her husband that she intended to use the chloroform

599
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.000
so she wouldn't have to have sex, Edwin simply rolled

600
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.639
over and refused to say anything. He did keep the bottle,

601
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.920
and doctor Leach theorized that Edwin drank the chloroform not

602
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.840
to end his life, but to induce vomiting, forcing Adelaide

603
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:43.760
to take care of him.

604
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.239
Oh, so it was just a he thinks it's just

605
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:50.719
a feeble attempt at attention.

606
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.159
Yes, so he didn't think he did it to end

607
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.199
his life, but to gain sympathy and perhaps sway her

608
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.320
opinion on being intimate with him. I don't know. I

609
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:04.480
don't know how that kind of.

610
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:05.719
I don't know how that would work.

611
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.599
That seems like a bit of a stretch, But yeah.

612
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.760
Who knows at this point though, Yeah, he seemed like

613
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:12.880
a kind of strange dude.

614
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.440
Mm hmm. The second most popular theory is that the

615
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.159
whole thing was a mistake. As I mentioned before in

616
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.800
December of eighteen eighty five, Edwin frequently took medicine to

617
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.199
combat his illness. This second theory alleges that at one

618
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.360
point he woke up to take his medicine, grabbed the

619
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.760
wrong bottle and down to the chloroform before realizing too

620
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:41.079
late what he had done. Given how inflamed and rotten

621
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.000
his mouth was at the time, it's entirely possible that

622
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:48.440
he couldn't have tasted the liquid or even noticed the

623
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.480
burning sensation of ingesting it compared to the pain that

624
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:52.639
he was already suffering.

625
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.480
Right or honestly too, if he thought if he just

626
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:04.840
grabbed blindly on his nightstand, expecting like the brandy mm hmm,

627
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.679
the brandy would have burned, he wouldn't have noticed a difference.

628
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.480
Yeah, However, this theory doesn't seem to hold as much

629
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.480
weight given what the chloroform would have done to him.

630
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.960
Yeah, it would have been more sense. It would have

631
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:21.719
heard a lot more.

632
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.679
Yeah. Yeah. If he had drunk the chloroform, he would

633
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.760
have been screaming in agony from the pain. And as

634
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.039
we heard during the trial, no screaming had been heard

635
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.039
in the home the night that he passed away.

636
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.519
Right, because other people would have noticed. It wouldn't have

637
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:40.079
just been her.

638
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:45.039
Yeah, they would have woken up to his screams, and

639
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360
we wouldn't have had a trial, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah,

640
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.920
the third and final theory is that it was, in

641
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:56.039
fact the perfect murder, and here's how it could have

642
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:57.800
gone down. I feel like I'm kind of doing like

643
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.880
the whole oj Simpson if I had done it type

644
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.239
of thing. It kind of feels that way a little

645
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.360
bit yet, a little bit yeah, Yeah. So, as we know,

646
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.360
Adelaide and Minister Dyson have already developed a close relationship

647
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.880
thanks in part to Edwin's intervention in the matter, and

648
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.920
she knew she would marry him if Edwin were to

649
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:24.199
pass away, So why not kill two birds of one stone? Literally?

650
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.599
This theory alleges that Adelaide used the chloroform vapors to

651
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.119
get Edwin to pass out, rendering him helpless. At this point,

652
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.679
it speculated that she inserted a length of rubber tube

653
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:42.360
or something like it into Edwin's throat to pour the

654
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:47.360
poison down it and into his stomach, preventing the caustic

655
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.800
substance from eating away at his throat on the way down.

656
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.440
But wouldn't they have seen something, I like seeing a

657
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.239
damaged thing. Yeah.

658
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:03.400
Then once he confirmed dead, she used the same tube

659
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.840
to pour brandy into his mouth to mask the smell

660
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.119
of the chloroform. Yeah.

661
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.039
I caught that immediately of like the brandy the alcohol

662
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.719
smell overwhelming the chloroform spell, or like trying to cover that.

663
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:22.840
Up to this day, there has been no concrete evidence

664
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.880
linking Adelaide to the murder of Edwin. If he was murdered, I.

665
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:34.360
Feel like this should be an episode of MythBusters, like

666
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:35.920
how Diddictate in there.

667
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:41.800
Yeah, And it is also just as likely that he

668
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.280
passed away from the medicine he had been taking to

669
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.159
treat his illness. One of the most common chemicals prescribed

670
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.280
in the eighteen hundreds to cure many maladies was mercury,

671
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.360
which we now know to be highly toxic.

672
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:00.800
Yep. So the problem.

673
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.920
Drinking chloroform wouldn't have caused instant death, but if you

674
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.360
were given it over some time, mixed in with a

675
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.960
drink or hidden in your food, it could have killed you.

676
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.400
It's entirely possible that Adelaide had been mixing it into

677
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.320
Edwin's nightly brandy snifter without him knowing.

678
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.679
That's kind of what I was assuming, But like I

679
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:26.800
don't know, it is clarify. I would assume that they don't.

680
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:28.800
It doesn't blend.

681
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:35.679
I don't know. I don't know man, and the illness

682
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.119
that Edwin was suffering from matched all of the symptoms

683
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:47.079
of chloroform toxicity diarrhea, drowsiness, stomach pains, and weakness. So

684
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.119
following her acquittal, Adelaide and Minister Dyson quickly vanished from

685
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.960
public notice.

686
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:59.800
I would not be anywhere near that man, No are you.

687
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.639
I would be peacing out like deuces. Good day to you, sir.

688
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:07.639
Sure.

689
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.599
It's unclear if the pair went on to marry or

690
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.360
if they went their separate ways. There have been claims

691
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.519
that Minister Dyson, who was twenty seven at the time

692
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.920
of the trial, so he was three years younger than Adelaide.

693
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.400
Oh man that he emigrated to the United States in

694
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.360
nineteen thirty nine and changed his name to John Bernard Walker.

695
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.039
There are also claims that he emigrated to Australia. And

696
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.920
I couldn't find anything else about what happened to Adelaide

697
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.599
after she was acquitted, of course not So what do

698
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.639
you think did Adelaide get away with murder or was

699
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:48.400
it something else?

700
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.639
I think it was probably both. I think from the

701
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.480
sounds of it, it sounds like it was like a

702
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:03.280
slow poisoning over time, and then something happened that was

703
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:09.199
just kind of the last little bit. But to me,

704
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.039
from the sounds of it, is she had she had

705
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:21.960
started poisoning him, and then she backpedaled in time for

706
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:27.440
him to be healthy enough for the insurance inspection, and

707
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:29.760
then when she was going to get him sick again,

708
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.239
she fucked up and killed him. That's my thought, is

709
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.119
like she was already like the plan was already in

710
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.760
motion for a long time, and the only reason why

711
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.480
he got better was because they were going to try

712
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.920
to get more money. She needed him healthy for the

713
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.480
insurance appraisal, so that she could get the most money.

714
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.000
And then when she was like, Okay, well he got approved,

715
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:58.360
everything's fine, I'll just start making him sick again one

716
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.800
little bit and she killed him.

717
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.679
Yeah, I kind of I feel the same, like it

718
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:09.119
was a case of like lunch housens by proxy kind of,

719
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.079
you know, she because the doctors that came to check

720
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:18.119
on him were always commented on what a good nurse

721
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:20.199
and wife she was to take such good care of

722
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.519
him and all this stuff, and she was just and

723
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.719
she had this guy, this younger gentleman waiting in the

724
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:31.599
wings for her husband to pass away, with her husband's blessing.

725
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.760
So and with her husband's money. Yep.

726
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.960
Yeah, I just feel like it was a case of, yeah,

727
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.440
she perhaps got a little too heavy handed with the chloroform.

728
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:52.400
And either that or after he got better, decided he

729
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:56.880
wanted to live again, like maybe he had interpreted his

730
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:02.599
miraculous recovery to some sort of miraculous second chance, And

731
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.760
so she knew she had to kill him because suddenly

732
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.480
he was wanting sex again, and he was wanting to

733
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:13.079
do more things, and her plan was quickly unraveling, So

734
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.559
she could have just like killed him out of panic.

735
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.800
That then too of like he just needs to be dead,

736
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.000
like yep, it just needs to be done yep. And

737
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.199
then what better way to do it than New Year's

738
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:32.880
Eve for poisoning? I mean, it was all in all,

739
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:37.960
whether she predicted it or not, just a good, good

740
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:38.599
old story.

741
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.559
Well. This week's podcast plug is Castles and Cryptids, a

742
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.159
podcast hosted by two Canadian chicks Alana and Kelsey. Follow

743
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them down the rabbit hole as they explore Lauren Legends,

744
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745
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the castles are haunted and the cryptids are cryptic af

746
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.360
They are part of the cast Network and we will

747
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.280
have a link to their show in the show notes.

748
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:10.039
Nice and this week's listener question comes from Carrie in no,

749
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:13.719
you wake up to find yourself being tried for witchcraft

750
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.760
since people found you with your phone and with insulin?

751
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.239
Oh no, no, she had an insulin, No she did.

752
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:30.360
How would you try to get yourself out of trouble? Oh?

753
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.440
I would inject them all with insulin and kill them

754
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.679
all and then start new with the natives. Have a

755
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:40.679
good twenty eight days with the natives before my insulin

756
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.320
would run out. Yeah, and they would welcome me in

757
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:48.400
because I'd kill all the narsty ones with just a

758
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.840
narsty white men, just a tiny little dose of my insulin,

759
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.639
just a little, just a little prick and hi, bye.

760
00:51:58.320 --> 00:51:58.840
How about you?

761
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.119
I think I would just try to run away because

762
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.800
have an asthma attack, and then I would just like

763
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:09.320
fall over and die before they could do anything to me.

764
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.480
Just be like go along and just like chuck look

765
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.559
over there, and then run away.

766
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.880
Ta mesmerism with something on your phone?

767
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.840
I mean, what would you do? There's no internet, Like,

768
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:25.199
what could you do with your phone?

769
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.159
You could still potentially use the AI.

770
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:33.760
Right, No, No, I could use my calculator app and

771
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.679
be like, look I can new math. Look at not quickly?

772
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.199
I can do math. I don't think you can use

773
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:40.880
the AI function without Wi Fi.

774
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.400
No, I've used to with data.

775
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.840
Yeah, Like if you had no data and no Wi Fi, yeah,

776
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:54.800
I mean maybe.

777
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.559
It's just a really expensive brick.

778
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.119
Maybe you could show pictures that you have saved on your.

779
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.760
Phone, videos, record things.

780
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.960
You could record things and play it back and they'd be.

781
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.519
Like, yeah, do it in like slow motion or something.

782
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:14.960
Freak them out. This is what the sky really looks like.

783
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.239
Put a filter on it. They're like, oh, I can

784
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:19.519
do this.

785
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.440
Whow Yeah that was a fun love. I can't believe

786
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.039
she edited slid to it that she did. She was like, emmana,

787
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:35.199
she got me. She got me this time, said and

788
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:36.159
Maddie's insulin.

789
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:39.480
That's amazing.

790
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.480
All right, what's something good you'd like to share?

791
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:49.000
Mm hmm. I do have something good, but I will

792
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:53.800
keep this something good to myself for a little bit. Yeah, O,

793
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.760
there's something good this week. So tomorrow I have I'm

794
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.800
going to head up to as part of our job,

795
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.079
we have the opportunity to be a part of training

796
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.199
program with one of the sovereign nations that's in Minnesota.

797
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:17.920
So I get to spend two days at a training

798
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:23.679
with the Ojibwa tribe, oh Carlton up in Carlton. So yeah,

799
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:30.239
so you get to do some I don't. They had

800
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.159
the itinerary up. I didn't want to look at it

801
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.320
because I kind of want to like surprise, because like

802
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:38.920
our boss, our whole team gets to go like we

803
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.079
we actually made our work. We shifted our work around

804
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:43.920
so that we could have this kind of like quote

805
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:51.280
unquote week off almost like we actually published things earlier faster.

806
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.559
A couple of weeks ago so that we could be

807
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.840
ready for this. But like my whole small team is going.

808
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.360
We're going to carpool together and it's a training that

809
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.280
several sovereign nations provides to state employees that we're all

810
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.760
welcome to, like the state can we'll pay for our

811
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:16.760
trip there, which is really nice. But different tribes offer

812
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.119
clatt the course throughout different times of the year, and

813
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.239
this one worked out with our group that we were

814
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.719
all able to go. So yeah, I guess you do

815
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.559
that this week, and I'm excited to go. I haven't

816
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:37.920
been super north really despite living here forever, so there

817
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:41.039
was talk of going up to Duluth for a little

818
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.239
bit too, and I've never been to Duluf, so it'll

819
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:49.280
be nice to nice spend a little bit of time. Yeah,

820
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:50.719
how about you.

821
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.079
I'm excited to hear about that when you get back.

822
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.639
I know, I'm really excited. I think it's going to

823
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:56.559
be really cool.

824
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:02.719
Awesome for me. Ask gone, what's what's been happening.

825
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:05.599
You've been really busy.

826
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:11.960
I have been really busy. Something good is this past

827
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:17.000
weekend was crazy busy for both my girls. So it

828
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:22.760
was prom for my oldest, which I think she had fun.

829
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.960
There were some mishaps along the ways, is there always

830
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.440
is so, but she still had fun. And my youngest,

831
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:35.639
she and most of the girls in her troop. One

832
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.719
of them couldn't come because she had a fever. They

833
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.800
sewed their own vests for next year for when they

834
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:46.840
bring it. So my my co leader, Lisa, her mom

835
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.559
is part of a sewing circle. So the women came

836
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.599
and brought their sewing machines.

837
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.400
And that's so sweet.

838
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:57.280
And showed the girls how to sew their own vests.

839
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.599
And we did have to do a little bit of

840
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.519
intervention on some parts because the.

841
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.639
I bet some of them are just stuff on this stuff.

842
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.400
On the X on the outside, the little like kind

843
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.320
of breeding thing that goes like that was kind of

844
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.199
an issue. But for the most part, the girls did

845
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:17.639
them all themselves and it looks really great. So it's

846
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.599
very proud of the cool So I'm very proud of

847
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.760
the youngest and the girls in her troop for sticking

848
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.400
with it and doing it. And it was a lot

849
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.119
of work, but they did it. And now they have

850
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.239
their vests already for bridging in a couple of weeks,

851
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:36.039
which sounds crazy, but.

852
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.559
It does sound crazy. That it's already time for that.

853
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:41.320
June will be here before we know it.

854
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:49.159
But yeah, yeah, all right, shall we let's do it.

855
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.320
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