June 4, 2026

The Most Haunted House in Washington

The Most Haunted House in Washington
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Step into haunted Port Gamble, Washington, a historic mill town founded in 1851 and home to the infamous Walker-Ames House, known as the most haunted house in Washington. From ghostly women in the windows and children's voices in the attic to mysterious EVPs, shadow figures, and unexplained apparitions, this abandoned home has become a legendary paranormal hotspot.

In this episode, we explore the haunted history of Port Gamble, chilling ghost tour encounters, paranormal investigations, and firsthand accounts from former residents. We also uncover eerie stories from the town's other haunted landmarks, making this a must-listen for fans of ghost stories, haunted places, and Pacific Northwest paranormal mysteries. 👻🏚️✨

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In the basement. If your hair is blonde, it might

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get tugged on ew and I was like, oooh, thank goodness,

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I'd dyed my hair. They think there's a spirit of

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a little boy down there, which again is kind of

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creepier than the attic, that there's just like one spirit

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of a little boy in the basement.

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Yeah, I guess this. He'd not get along with the

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other kids, like he's in exiled to the basement.

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He was shot.

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They're all up in the attic and they sent his

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ass all the way down to the basement.

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Well maybe because he'd be the white hair. Hi Caitlin,

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Hi Cassie. Hi creepy people, helly you. This is PNW

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Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal,

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and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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Or the PNW if you're nicety, and.

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We also do a nasty little tarot reading at the

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end of our episode for some nasty insight into our topic.

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It just got so nasty up in here.

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That's that's I mean, that's how it's been, that's how

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it will be. All right, then, that's what I feel.

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Okay, Doka, I wasn't aware it was going to be

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quite so nasty.

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I mean, did you look at me today? Obviously it's

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gonna happ well. Do you want to know where we're

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going today? Yeah, we're going to Port Gamble, Washington.

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Port Gamble. Yes, I'm trying to think if I've even

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heard of it.

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I feel like I had heard of it, but it

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could have just been through all my ghosty research. I'm

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not really sure.

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I mean that's fair.

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Port Gamble was founded in eighteen fifty one because of

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the Puget Sound Milk Company. Oh, it's about thirty miles

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northwest of Seattle. Although you do have to take a

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ferry unless you want to like go eighty five miles

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and like go down and around and up.

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Yeah, I'm not really about that life actually, unless you're

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coming from like Portland, which you know, you're just going

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up so you wouldn't have to do the roundabout. But

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I guess if you don't want to take the ferry,

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which I feel like would be kind of fun.

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But I've never taken a fairy. You haven't, No, I

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feel like I would be terrified.

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No, actually I think it's pretty cool. I've taken it

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up to Orchest Island. From Anti Chordis several times. I

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think that's the only ferry that I've been on. But

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it's cool.

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I just said, I was like, it sounds fun. I

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would be terrified.

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Yeah, Hey, listen, two things can be true. You can

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have complicated emotions about a lot of things.

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Yeah. I think it's just weird that you drive your

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car onto a boat.

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Yes, I was just going to say, I feel like

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it makes sense because driving onto a boat feels not

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quite right. Yeah, there's something that's a little anxiety inducing

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about that.

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They just need to make all cars with the water

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cars where you can just drive in water. I've been

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in one of those. Have you been in one?

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No?

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It was like where were we Orlando, in Florida, Disney World.

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Well, that feels like a very Florida thing. Yeah, it

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was fun.

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I mean it was basically like it just felt like

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you were in a boat, but it was a car.

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Weird. I mean, I'm open to it. Maybe.

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Yeah, it's fun in the warm weather, you know, the

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top down, gotta of the top down.

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I don't know how I feel about that.

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I don't know. I feel like being enclosed and in

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the water. I feel like we're going on a lot

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about this car water thing, but you deal with it. Yeah.

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Well, honestly, that's exactly what I was thinking. I'm like, oh,

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I don't know how I feel about having the top down,

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And then as you started to say, oh, but being

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fully unclosed, that was the exact next thought that I had, like, Oh, actually,

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I don't know, being fully enclosed maybe doesn't sound great either.

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Actually that's kind.

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Of why I just felt like you're in a motor boat,

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because like, yeah, no top in the water. Yeah, that

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makes sense, but a lot smaller anyway, Yeah, let's move along. Yeah,

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because this episode, believe it or not, is not about

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water cars.

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Oh well that okay, I mean, I listen. I'm sure

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whatever topic you've picked is right, but I am a

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little bit disappointed that we're not gonna keep going down

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this road.

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This water road, haunted water car oho.

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Okay, well, keep looking.

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I'll get right on that. I'm going to read a

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quote from the Port Gamble website just so you get

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a little feel for the vibe. Port Gamble is on

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the Kitsap Peninsula, situated on the shores of Scenic Hood Canal.

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Explore the one hundred and twenty acre National Historic landmark,

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complete with picturesque turn of the century buildings, filled with shops,

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a historic church, breathtaking views, expansive grounds, and New England

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style houses on maple and elm tree lined streets. Oh wow,

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doesn't that sound beautiful? I mean, very picturesque, very idyllic.

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This town has what is known as the most haunted

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house in Washington. Oh boy, the walker Ames House. It's

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a Queen Anne style home built between eighteen eighty eight

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and eighteen eighty nine on Rainier Avenue, which I thought

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was cute.

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Okay, yeah, that is cute, and you know we love

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a Queen Anne obviously.

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I know I knew you would love this.

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Okay. So really interesting because I'm getting like kind of

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two different like pictures. I'm guessing I'm guessing it's like

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before and after paint.

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Oh it could be.

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Yeah, like somebody must have restored it to kind of

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it's prior glory.

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Yeah yeah, we'll kind of talk about that later too.

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Okay.

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So it's really cute. It's got like stained glass windows,

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it's got very like the poles. I don't know how

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to describe it, but the poles are very like bubbly, bubbly.

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Oh yeah, it has like kind of I think that's

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like gingerbread. Yeah, I think that's what they call that.

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Yeah, but very Queen Anne style.

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It's interesting because like how it's described when you Google

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it is exactly how like I picture it. It's like

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spindle work and fretwork. But it says it refers to

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the ornate lace like wooden embellishments characteristic of Victorian era architecture.

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And she is beautiful.

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Yes. The original home oh oh, though, although not as fancy,

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actually burned down in eighteen eighty five. Oh no, I know.

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And this new home actually faces the bay instead of

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the street, which is pretty unique. I mean that's what

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I would want, right, I know. But it was for

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the purposes of welcoming in the ships.

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Oh okay, So this house like had some sort of

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like official.

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Capacity, uh kind of, we're about to talk about it, Okay.

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So William Walker lived there with his wife Emma daughter

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mad which I freaking love that name, mod and her husband,

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Edwin Ames. Walker was the master mechanic for the nearby

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sawmill on Gamble Bay. So that's the big saw mill

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that was built, which is why the town is there. Okay.

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Ames was the resident manager and then the general manager

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until nineteen thirty one. So it's kind of like a

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head head of the sawmills house basically.

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Okay, okay, that makes sense. I feel like that used

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to be a really common thing. I mean you still

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see that, I guess with like the military or you know, it's.

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Very it seems very like military because they have other

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houses too that are that were built for like the

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managers and stuff.

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Yeah, it's built like specifically so that they can grow

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up this area around the industry.

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Yeah, and all the heads have nice places to live,

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and then there's also other places for like the just

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general workers to live maybe not so nice, but.

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Little tiny houses.

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The home was occupied by other mill managers and their

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families until the mill closed in nineteen ninety five, and

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at the time of its closing, it was the longest

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continually operating mill in the US.

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Wow, I was gonna say, that's like way more recent

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than I would have pictured, you know, nineteen ninety five,

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that's I mean, we're too young to even the nineties.

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But wow, wasn't even born yet.

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Just oh yes, just the fadust.

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After that, the home was abandoned and it is still

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unoccupied to this day.

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No way. Yeah yeah, yeah, So is this where we

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announced like the gofund me to help us buy it

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or I don't know.

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I'm not really sure the deal with it. So okay,

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because obviously the outside is very pretty, but I watched

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a video that shows the inside and it was only

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from last year, and boy does it look abandoned. Like

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there's all inferns growing in the basement. Really looks like

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nature is just like invading.

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She's been reclaimed.

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Yeah, and the wallpaper is all like ripped off and weird.

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It's just it's not restored inside whatsoever. From the video

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I saw that was dated from last year, so I

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don't know if anything's happened in the meantime. I'm not

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really sure. Port Gamble was declared a rural historic to

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so kind of like the quote from the beginning, and

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a lot of the buildings have been restored and preserved,

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although the walker Ames House does not seem to have

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been restored in the inside, but the outside has. So

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I was wondering maybe they started with the outside and

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they're going to get to the inside, or maybe they

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kept the inside spooky looking for ghost tours, like for

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a purpose. And yes, they do ghost investigation tours there,

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Like you can book one. It's like a three hour tour.

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What it's ran by paranormal Pete? Stop it, I know,

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like the best name, good thing. His name was Pete,

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you know, because like what else did he call himself? No,

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you got to have that alliteration, right. There's a lot

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of reported paranormal activity in the home. A woman is

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seen upstairs in the windows wearing a long dress.

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What color is it?

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I knew you're gonna ask. They don't say if it's

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whiteh So I was like, maybe there's no lady in

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white here. We'll see, we'll see what comes from.

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Well, all right, I mean I'm just saying white is

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already such an impractical choice. I feel like, even in

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this modern day, we don't have like horses and buggies

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driving through the streets and everything. Yeah, like olden times.

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But I'm like, I I wear white with so much

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caution and I can't even imagine how hard it was

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to keep a white dress clean back then. So to me,

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if there's a lady standing in the window wearing a

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white dress, I'm like, ghosts, it must be a go Yeah,

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there's no way she has been wearing that all day

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and she hasn't splashed something.

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I was. I watch a lot of like YouTube go

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videos or whatever, and I heard just yesterday when I

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was watching one that they said, like ladies in white

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present themselves that way because they they died in like

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a tragic way or something. Yeah, I don't know why

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specifically they would present in white. I always think of

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like a lady in a nightgown because I don't know

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why I think of like nightgowns as white.

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Yeah, I mean it makes sense. I totally get that.

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That visual makes sense to me too. I don't know.

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I mean there's a lot of symbolism with colors, for sure.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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And obviously, you know there's the there's the big one, right,

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you know, like ghosts historically look like a white sheet.

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Yeah, that is true. That is true.

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So I don't know.

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But they don't specifically say here that this lady is

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wearing white, so we don't know. Lights have been seen

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turning on and off when the home is empty. Cameras

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have malfunctioned, not cameras like their house security cameras, but

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like people right to use cameras, people touring or inside

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you okay, Yeah, people feel significant cold spots or have

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smelled a floral scent in one area of the stairs

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and nowhere else.

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Interesting because I thought all of the plant growth was

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down in the basement.

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Right, well, it didn't look like flowers.

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I'm curious, is this a place that actually still has

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working electricity because it's like the lightning that. I guess

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it must, right because people are saying that they're seeing

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lights going on and off.

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But well, that would be even weirder if it didn't

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have electrocity.

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Right, that would be also, uh, further evidence of something hanky,

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as uh the Scooby Doo gang might say, but.

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I'm not one hundred percent sure. But they do go

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investigations there, so I assume that they would have to

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have some power, maybe for cameras and things.

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I had to check myself because I was like, wait,

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am I remembering that the Scooby Doo get. I know,

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they said a lot of silly things, but I was like,

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do they say hinky a lot? And I guess not really?

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Jink jinkies jink.

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Yeah, Jinky's That's probably what I'm thinking of and zoinks.

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Yeah. Footsteps have been heard coming from the attic as

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well as children's voices and toys tend to move around

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up there.

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Listen the toy thing in and of itself, that could

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be sort of a like toy story type thing. And yeah,

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I think most people would find that like, oh, how cute,

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how charming and uh And obviously I have very different

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thoughts and feelings about that given my history with dolls.

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But as per usual, never okay, never okay to be

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hearing uh, other worldly children's voices, little voices. That remains

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one of I think my biggest bugaboos. It's like that

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and cannibalism. Just I can't and they are they are

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really neck and neck like that may surprise some people.

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They freak me out in different but equal ways.

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Well, you're gonna love this next part because people see

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children looking out of the attic windows.

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No in it. Why the attic too, I don't know.

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No. I watched a video where paranormal re Pete was

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like on a news he did, like a news segment.

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It was really cute and he was saying that the

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kids like were often sent to the attict to play

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while guests were over. So maybe there's just some like

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that was their favorite place and they come back to

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it or it's just like residual I don't know. Oh okay, yeah,

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because there's a lot of I don't know in the paranormal.

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Yeah, I mean that's and that's fair. I just have

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so many questions. Whether or not they can be answered,

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I think remains to be seen, ye ask away.

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Though. There is a basement as well. We talked about it,

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the overgrown basement. In the basement, if your hair is blonde,

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it might get tugged on ew And I was like, oh,

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thank goodness, I dyed my hair.

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I know I'm back to my natural color. So I'm uh,

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I think I'm safe.

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We might be safe just from the hair pulling.

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Yeah, okay, that's good.

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I guess they think there's a spirit of a little

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boy down there, which again is kind of creepier than

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the attic, that there's just like one spirit of a

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little boy in the basement.

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Yeah, I guess does he not get along with the

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other kids, like he's in exile to the basement.

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He was shot.

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They're all up in the attic and they set his

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ass all the way down to the basement. Well maybe

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because he'd be playing I will and you know, what

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it in that light, I think maybe that seems fair.

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Actually there's kind of some other things too about the

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basement that we'll get to and not right now but

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in a little bit. Okay, So I did read a

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lot of spooky things happened during the ghost tours, so

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if you book one, your chances are pretty good that

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something might actually happen. So one time Pete and his

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whole tour group saw a woman disappear right before their eyes.

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Okay, that I don't I don't love it, but that

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doesn't really get me in a particular Like, ah, I

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do have both of my feet up in my chair

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already though, So.

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I'm not sure that you'd want to go to this

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one because there I keep saying it, there's other stuff.

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There's a lot of other stuff that I just feel like,

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isn't it's not gonna persuade Caitlin to come at all? Whatsoever?

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Maybe look at the outside.

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Yeah, I'm like, actually I'm not getting out of the car.

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Just do a drive by, right, So it was interesting.

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He said that he was like shining his flashlight around

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and he heard something and then like turned around and

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the flashlight like hit the woman, and everyone like gasped.

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Okay, and well when you put it like that, that's

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like kind of horror movie.

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Yeah, it doesn't sound like a horror movie. But like

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when everyone gasped, she disappeared. So she's like, oh shit,

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I was caught. Gotta go.

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Yeah, she's like self conscious. I guess maybe.

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Maybe she was naked. She's like, I don't look at me.

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I'm in my house, I'm walking around nude. What are

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you guys doing here?

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H In the Victorian era, nobody was nude, right, It

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was like a whole generation of never nude.

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Depressing.

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I know, have you seen the swimsuits from that back

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in that day?

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I mean, honestly, I kind of want one though. I

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kind of want that to come back around, just so

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I can be covered up.

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And it's fine, right, You're like, yes, yes, yes, all

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bodies are beach bodies, especially when I can dress like

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a Victorian child. Yeah, I'm with you.

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Photos of human figures have been caught and are actually

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on Pete's website. You can look at them. One is

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of a man in the window taken from outside. I

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think it's a man. It's like a man looking figure.

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He kind of looks like he's in a suit or something.

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But it's very shape shadowy.

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Okay, I was gonna say. I mean, even from a stillet,

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sometimes you can tell just based on like height or

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you know, kind of other yeah, I don't know, discernible figures.

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And the other one looks like someone kind of peeking

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around the corner in a hallway.

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No, oh no, do you want.

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To see them? Should I send them to you? I

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mean yeah, probably, And they do circle it in the photos,

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which is nice because I'm like, what am I looking

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at here? But then you see them. Oh god, that

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first one, the peaking one, that's so creepy. Yeah, oh god.

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And the second one, truth be told, is not much better.

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That definitely looks like an older man in a suit.

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And I know, I feel like they kind of look

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like the same figure almost a little bit.

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There's part of me that wants to just be like

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the consummate skeptic and be like, Okay, so they just

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had a tour come through, and they, you know, captured

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a photo of this same guy from inside and outside.

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But why would a tour group be like standing alone

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in like the dark.

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Yeah, And I feel like Pete would. Pete's probably a

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cool guy. He probably would know, like, there's no one

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in the house, right, And these were captured. I don't

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know if they were on the same tour or not,

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but they were from two different people.

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Oh yeah, that's true.

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One says the date in the other.

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Room and one doesn't.

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Yeah.

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Interesting, this looks like it's kind of in like adjacent

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parts of a house though, because you can see this

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mirrored fireplace mantle. I think that's what it looks like

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it is. You can see it in both of the pictures.

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Oh oh, did you notice that?

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So it's like if it's a ghost, it's somebody that

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like obviously is kind of like that's his area, you know,

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like he's just trying to go into the palla or

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you know whatever.

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I didn't notice that.

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I know I didn't at first either. I was like, Oh,

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this is so cool. There's so much ornate wouldwork in

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this house. And then as I'm like looking at it,

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I was like, wait, that's the same piece. I'm pretty sure.

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So the first one he's like down in the hallway

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peeking around the corner, and then the other one he

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it looks like is either in that you know, he's

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come into the room and he's like near a window

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on the opposite side of the room, or he's in

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an adjacent room.

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Oh, and the lights are on from the second photo,

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so that kind of sort of answers your question of

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if there's power there. It wasn't in twenty thirteen.

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Okay, okay, so you know we're figuring some things out.

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There are many EVP recordings on Pete's website as well,

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and his sibling actually wrote a blog about their experience

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catching an EVP and a little bit more in the

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primary bathroom of the house.

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Ooh.

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So they were asking questions out loud, doing in the recorder,

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trying to get answers from spirits as why people do

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that in case like it catches something you don't hear

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with your your normal human ears.

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Yeah, you're lay mass human ears.

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And then as they were asking questions, they started to

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see a shimmering in front of them, describing it quote

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as if the area in front of me were being twisted.

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Okay, well, like shimmer I'm down with that. That sounds good.

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Like that sounds pretty. That sounds kind of like ethereal twisting.

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Gives me a little bit of pause. I don't I

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don't know about that.

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It's creepy. And then it formed into a blurry woman

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and they couldn't make out any features because it was

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so blurry. But she seemed to be wearing a white

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dress or had a white apron on over her dress.

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Know it. Oh, here's our.

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White lady, Oh lady and white.

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But again I always say, since like, this wasn't a

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fully formed figure. It was kind of blurry, maybe see through, shimmery, twisty.

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Maybe you just can't see the colors. So it's like,

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you know, maybe it's not actually a white dress, but

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you just can't. I don't know. It's like in black

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and white, you know.

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I mean, I see what you're saying, but I'm hardcore.

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I'm teen lady and wife like that. I think that's

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what they saw.

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And well, you got it. I delivered. You're welcome. Yeah,

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and then what do you think this lady in white

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did give you one? Guess?

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Did she cry? No?

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She disappeared. Oh So it's again it's interesting because it's

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like her brother Pete's experience with the tour group, like

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the women just get seen and then they just disappear.

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That's interesting.

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So I don't know if it was the same woman.

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Or not.

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Yeah, but I feel like that's kind of those are

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the two things that they do, right, right, ghost be

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doing that crying and or disappearing. Yeah, that's kind of

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their thing, like just evaporate.

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She could have been crying. Maybe that's why she was

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all blurry. Oh, I guess that wouldn't make sense, Yeah,

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because they would have to be crying. Maybe she was

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projecting her view of herself as she was crying, like

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seeing herself cry all Lorrie, I don't know. That didn't

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make any sense.

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Well, I mean if you believe that, you know, any

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paranormal entities have an ability to like influence us in

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any way. Sometimes people say they can affect like what

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you see or hear or you know, different sensory experiences,

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Like I don't, I don't know. That doesn't even sound

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that wild to me. You're already seeing a ghost, Okay,

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it just doesn't feel like that much of a leap.

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I guess that's true.

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Yeah.

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So later when they were reviewing the recording from that

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incident in the bathroom, they heard quiet chanting that became louder,

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but they couldn't make out what it was saying. Chanting chanting. Yeah,

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I don't care for that. That always gives me like

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cultye vi, Right, So I don't know if it was

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maybe it was singing and not chanting, I don't really know.

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They described it as chanting, yeah, and then they found

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the exact same sounds of chanting on someone else's recording

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from that day in the same bathroom.

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Eh okay, So yeah, I feel like their characterization of

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it is like that's probably accurate, right because they have

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two separate recordings, so it's not just them like not

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having enough evidence to be able to like adequately identify

479
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.759
like what's happening. Yeah, Like we have two separate recordings,

480
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:41.960
and this is what we're hearing.

481
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.359
Yeah, because if you know what singing is, if it

482
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.000
was singing, you would have said singing. So yeah, chanting.

483
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.279
Exactly creep, So definitely chanting.

484
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.279
I feel like, oh, I don't know why other paranormal

485
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:01.359
groups have investigated there as well. The Tacoma Paranormal Society

486
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.359
reported having doors that were popped open with weights being

487
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:12.079
slammed shut. Yeah, and some furniture moved around upstairs and

488
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:18.359
someone experienced extreme dizziness and nausea, which I was.

489
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.759
Like, it's a Caitlin Oh, my god.

490
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.160
So this is like one of the other reasons. I

491
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.920
was like, Oh, maybe she shouldn't go here.

492
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:32.200
Maybe maybe don't maybe we don't visit. Yeah, okay, yeah,

493
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.599
I think maybe I would have to see what the

494
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.839
vibe feels like from the outside.

495
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.279
We'll see. I want to go obviously.

496
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.039
Uh yeah.

497
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:48.039
Paranormal PTE invite us the Puget Sound Ghost Hunters and

498
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:53.000
the Advanced Ghost Hunters of Seattle, Tacoma. Which is a

499
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:58.880
ghost it's acronyms, I love it. But they did a

500
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.359
collab investigation in there, and they found the attic door

501
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.079
to be open at one point after it had been

502
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.000
closed and locked up, like it was confirmed locked and closed.

503
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.319
They couldn't open it. Oh, and only one person had

504
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.920
the key, and they all knew that one person like

505
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.799
didn't go open the door. So it was just like, hey,

506
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.319
come up here, see what's going on. It was the

507
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:29.440
kids they want like come up and play. Oh, that's spooky.

508
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.559
And later they found something else was mysteriously opened a

509
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:39.599
door under the stairs. Oh it looked to be like

510
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.640
a storage space that the handle to the door was

511
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:43.920
on the inside.

512
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.039
No, thank you sir, right, what which.

513
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.839
Is like that's pretty creepy. I don't know if maybe

514
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.799
there used to be a handle on the outside too,

515
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:54.359
and it just wasn't there anymore.

516
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.359
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be a handle

517
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.839
on the outside. Like, how were you supposed to use

518
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.799
it storage effectively if you can't open it door?

519
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:04.119
Right?

520
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:05.680
Yeah?

521
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.920
Which is the thing? Is they so they closed it

522
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.359
and then they couldn't figure out how to open it again,

523
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.160
so like, how did it get open?

524
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.640
Great? Oh my god, that's.

525
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.400
Something crawling around in the walls.

526
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.920
No.

527
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.400
No. Someone on the team also said that they were

528
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.799
punched in the back down in the basement.

529
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:29.680
Oh good lord.

530
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.640
And I was like, I don't know, maybe it's that

531
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.319
little boy again. This is like maybe more evidence of

532
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:37.279
why he got banished to the basement.

533
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.880
Seriously, little punk kid.

534
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.839
And he's like, why didn't you bring me toys? Because

535
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.640
they do leave like toy offerings for him down there.

536
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.839
Oh they didn't have toys, and he was just like me,

537
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.799
where's my toy?

538
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.440
Or I don't know, like maybe here's the thing, not

539
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:01.839
a parrot, but are we like sort of enabling his

540
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.599
bad behavior by leaving toys down there his offerings?

541
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.799
I don't know, man, maybe or you know, maybe it's

542
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.960
just so he doesn't punch you or pull your hair

543
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:12.799
or I mean.

544
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.079
For sure, I just don't know if it's a good

545
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.119
idea to reward bad behavior. That's all I'm saying.

546
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.119
Strict on these ghost children, man, they have nothing else, right,

547
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:24.799
nothing else.

548
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.400
I mean, I guess that's true too, I don't know.

549
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.279
So they've also shot some like films and shows down

550
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.039
there in the basement, and one of the crew actually

551
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:42.640
got her leg grabbed and they said there was a

552
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.680
handprint on it. No, and so no, I know, and

553
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.720
I was thinking, like handprint like left on the skin,

554
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.119
but another article said that it was like a dusty handprint,

555
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.640
so like maybe on the pants or something. But either way,

556
00:32:58.279 --> 00:32:59.119
like that's creepy.

557
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.599
I hate that, And.

558
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.480
I want to know was it a little handprint, like

559
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.039
a little kid handprint.

560
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.319
I mean, come on, I.

561
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:08.480
Feel like it had to have been.

562
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.880
Oh I'm going with that, Jesus.

563
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.880
The walker Ames House was featured on the show My

564
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:24.000
Ghost Story season six, episode six, Darker than the Shadows,

565
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.680
and I didn't watch it, I know. I was like

566
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:29.720
I had to google it and it took me a

567
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.079
minute to actually like find something that would tell me

568
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.680
what the fucking episode was. It turned out to be

569
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.200
a someone's Facebook post, so I don't know. I couldn't

570
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.440
confirm from the like the summary didn't have any mention

571
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.359
of the house in it, yeah, because it has like

572
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.720
a couple different stories they feature on each episode, so

573
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.920
didn't specifically say. And then it was like two dollars

574
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.680
to watch it, and it was I was like, I

575
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.200
don't have time. I don't want to pay two bucks.

576
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.160
Yeah, I hadn't want to mine.

577
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.720
I can't confirm if that's the actual episode or not,

578
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:11.320
but that's what someone who researched it said, which I

579
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.800
do want to watch it. I just didn't quite have

580
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.880
time because it was Yeah, it was like ten this morning,

581
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.400
and I was like, I don't know. I got shited

582
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:20.320
to doh yeah.

583
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.039
Yeah.

584
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.039
There were quite a few comments on Facebook from people

585
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.519
who actually lived in the house before it was abandoned

586
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.519
in nineteen ninety five. Why yeah, So I'm going to

587
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.400
read you one comment from Jamie Oh. She says, I

588
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.000
grew up in this house. My dad was a mill

589
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:42.760
write at the sawmill. We lived there from nineteen eighty

590
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.679
to nineteen ninety three, and we're the last family to

591
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.599
live there. My mom kept the place immaculate, so that

592
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:55.280
kind of is sad that now it's kind of in disrepair. Yeah,

593
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.199
and the house looked very different back then, just more

594
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.960
alive and live. Well, yeah, it's been abandoned, so that

595
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:03.519
will happen.

596
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.159
Yeah, that'll happen.

597
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.840
There was an old coffee can beneath the parlor stairs

598
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.119
in a little secret room, So I'm like, is that

599
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.119
must be the door that had been opened on the

600
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.840
other team's investigation. Yeah, because they said it was a

601
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.239
little like storage room under the stairs. Oh my gosh.

602
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.320
So this coffee can, they go on to say it

603
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.840
has letters and trinkets from all the families that lived

604
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.960
there going back to the eighteen hundreds.

605
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.239
Do you think it's still there?

606
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.519
So I think I read in another comment, like her

607
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.760
and the poster were commenting back and forth, and I

608
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.440
think she said that they took the coffee can when

609
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:43.920
they moved out because they knew they were going to

610
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.480
be the last people who lived there.

611
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.480
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

612
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.119
We used to roller skate in the basement on rainy days,

613
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:52.960
which is so cute.

614
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.119
That's so cute.

615
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.599
The spookiest places in the house weren't the basement in

616
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.000
the attic and the service stairs that go up through

617
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.039
the middle of the house and have an entry on

618
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.800
each floor. Oh, I'm not sure. They didn't go into

619
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.039
why these places were spooky, but they do say there's

620
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:10.880
some spookiness.

621
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:15.039
I mean, it's the basement, the attic, and the servants stairs.

622
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.239
I think we all know why they're the spookiest parts

623
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:18.920
of the house.

624
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.760
Poor Gamble was an amazing place to grow up. I

625
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:25.920
thought that was really cute.

626
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:31.199
Yeah, that's super cute. And that doesn't sound like anything

627
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:32.039
too spooky.

628
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.960
Yeah, no. And then I also wanted to note that

629
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.800
there were some other comments from other residents that said

630
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.840
that they lived in the house it wasn't haunted at all. Hmm.

631
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.079
But I'm like, maybe that's because it was like full

632
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.639
of life, like she sat up in the other comment,

633
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.400
and now it's been abandoned and maybe some things came out, yeah,

634
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:54.440
of the walls.

635
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.239
I mean, I do think sometimes it feels like it

636
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:03.760
would make sense that someplace, like when there's people living there,

637
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.400
it might not necessarily like the energy is so different

638
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:13.559
that maybe things don't present themselves, or maybe you just

639
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.320
don't even notice, right, because you're just like living your

640
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:17.119
life in this.

641
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.039
House exactly, and if there's you know, kids living there,

642
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.559
like oh, who left the slide on? Or like who's

643
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.719
going to notice the toy moved or exactly?

644
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.880
Yeah, yeah, or you know, you could just be one

645
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.440
of those people that's like, I just don't believe in this.

646
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.880
So it's like, I don't know, if you don't believe

647
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.519
in it, you can say all day that it wasn't haunted.

648
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.000
But or you're not going to like feel you're not

649
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:45.719
sensitive so you can't feel yeah things, or but I

650
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.960
just wanted to point that out.

651
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.480
Yeah, maybe you're not a person that goes to a

652
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.440
house and then is on a boat for three days.

653
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.280
Yeah. There are a couple other interesting buildings in town.

654
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.440
Port Gamble's General stores basement. Oh, another basement.

655
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.079
Always the basement, I know.

656
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.599
I mean they're just creepy in general, right, they really are.

657
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.679
But the Port Gamble General Store's basement has the Puget

658
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.199
Sound Hotel Museum. Oh. The actual hotel was constructed in

659
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.199
nineteen oh seven and demolished in nineteen sixty three, so

660
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.679
it's no longer around. Oh, it was damaged during the

661
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.960
Columbus Day storm. Of nineteen sixty two, which we've heard

662
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.920
a few different times in other stories. There was a

663
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:40.280
really big storm. They had rooms for single saw mill workers.

664
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.480
So that's like another place where workers resided.

665
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.760
It's like goes back to that whole idea that it's

666
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.880
like this town kind of just springs up around this industry.

667
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.719
It's like, you got to have somewhere to house all

668
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:55.920
these people, right.

669
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:00.519
Right, And I do like it's a small town. I'm

670
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.840
sure it has like the small town vibes where everyone

671
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.800
knows everybody, but like if the majority of the people

672
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.559
are also working together, like you really everybody knows everybody?

673
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:16.559
Yeah really, Yeah, that quickly just becomes like I mean,

674
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.679
forgive the pun, but it's like, ooh, the rumor mill

675
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.800
back then. Nice, you know.

676
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.599
I like that. And I'm not sure why. But the

677
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:31.719
hotel fell outside of the company restrictions on gambling and alcohol.

678
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.440
Oh so super popular.

679
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:39.079
Oh I can imagine. Wait, so they had restrictions about

680
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.079
gambling and drinking. I don't they even restrict that in

681
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:45.960
like private homes.

682
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:47.960
I have no idea.

683
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:51.000
I mean, I guess if it's a company home, yeah,

684
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.719
like it's your private residence, but you're a company man

685
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.679
living in a company whom.

686
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.880
Yeah, I'm really not sure that's I was just re

687
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.400
about the museum and that's what it said.

688
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.800
But that makes so much sense. Yeah, so it was.

689
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.679
It was a pop in place though, because that's where

690
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.679
everyone wanted to go to gamble and drink.

691
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:11.880
I bet.

692
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:20.039
Yeah. Some paranormal activity is reported at the museum. Voices, footsteps,

693
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:26.239
sounds of papers wrestling, interesting books opening and closing, and

694
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.719
a shadow figure.

695
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.960
Books opening and closing.

696
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.119
Yeah, I'm like, I don't know they're reading they was.

697
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.239
I guess I just figured, you know what, with the

698
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.000
being out outside the bounds of the company, you know,

699
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:44.880
prohibition on the gambling and the drink, and I just assumed,

700
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:46.679
I guess that there wouldn't be a whole lot of

701
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:47.639
reading going on.

702
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.800
Maybe they're that's they're looking in the books for the

703
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:52.559
hidden alcohol.

704
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.920
Could be or it could be like the one curmudgeon

705
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.280
who's you know, reading their Bible because they think that,

706
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.599
you know, drinking and gambling that's the devil's where.

707
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.679
Speaking of like the Bible, there is a really pretty

708
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.079
church in town. It's like very It's got the giant steeple,

709
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:18.000
it's all white hire it's so pretty. I'm not, like

710
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.119
obviously not a church person, but I really like the

711
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.079
look of churches that are really pointy.

712
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.440
Yes, no, here's the thing. I can get behind the architecture.

713
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.760
Yeah, you just burn when you walk inside. It's fine.

714
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.400
Oh yeah, you know, burst into flames.

715
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.800
I was curious too about the sounds of like the

716
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.639
papers rustling or crumpling, Like what yeah that about?

717
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.840
I mean maybe like the hotel manager because if you

718
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.280
think about it, or like it could even be like

719
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.360
front desk because if you think about it, literally back then,

720
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.840
everything like their reservation, all of the accounts, everything's in

721
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.480
like these big ledger books. That's true, So that would

722
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:11.360
account for the paper wrestling sound and the opening and

723
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:12.360
closing of books.

724
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.360
Yeah, they're like where's the ledger? Yeah, I need to

725
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.559
book somebody.

726
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.880
Yeah, I feel like to me, I think it's so

727
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:26.320
interesting that mundane sounds like that are like part of

728
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.360
the sort of like the storytelling and you know, the

729
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.280
experiences with like a haunting.

730
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.719
Yeah, I know. I like that too, especially because it's like,

731
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.000
no one's down there, no one's in here. Where's that

732
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.119
sound coming from? Like? Why is it right happening?

733
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.639
I can't remember if it was an accountant or maybe

734
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.280
a lawyer. But it kind of reminds me. Do you

735
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.960
remember this is like literally day one of the show,

736
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.760
But do you remember when you talked about Pike Place

737
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.480
and I feel like there was i want to say,

738
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.679
an account that they said haunted his old office.

739
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.039
Oh yeah, I think it was the person who like

740
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:09.840
started Pike's Place.

741
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.440
Okay, Yeah, I feel like that's the vibe it's giving.

742
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.000
You know, like he's just still going to work every day.

743
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.800
Going about his business. Yeah.

744
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.679
Yeah, he's still trying to run the hotel. It's not

745
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:23.840
even physically there.

746
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.639
Yeah, because you think like even though it's not the

747
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:33.000
actual building, like it has artifacts from the building, so

748
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.679
it's still holding on to some of that energy and

749
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.360
things are drawn to it still.

750
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.199
I mean, think about it. That's the ultimate ghost flex,

751
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.119
isn't it. You're just like still running this hotel that

752
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.519
doesn't even exist anymore physically.

753
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:48.280
Yeah.

754
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.760
It's like, hey, well we don't exist on the physical

755
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:56.360
plane as living beings, right, I don't know.

756
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.000
Maybe they are still running the hotel and it's a

757
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.599
ghost hotel. We can't see it, and he has to

758
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.760
go back and forth looking for things because they took

759
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.000
some of the artifacts out of the hotel, and he's like,

760
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:07.920
where's my shit?

761
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:09.400
I mean, who knows.

762
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:10.800
I like that theory.

763
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.480
There's so many ways that could go. I think that's

764
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.400
I think that's a good one. It's solid.

765
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.679
Thanks. Okay, one more building real quick. Oh it's not haunted.

766
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.599
So we're ending on like a happy note. Port Gamble

767
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.800
Theater opened in nineteen oh six.

768
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:28.159
And it's not haunted.

769
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.639
No, they didn't really mention anything about it being haunted.

770
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.320
I'll believe it when I see it.

771
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.119
Maybe some things go down there, It just wasn't like

772
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.880
reported on. I want to talk to paranormal Peete. He

773
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:45.320
would know. Well, he knows everything about every building in

774
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:45.760
that town.

775
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.559
I mean he is the Goldarn expert. It sounds like

776
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.320
so the.

777
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:56.679
Town's Shakespeare Society and the school's drama club performed there.

778
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:01.679
I love that. That's a horrible I love that this

779
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.239
like little school, can't imagine it has very many students

780
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.039
had to drama clvee and they performed in a theater.

781
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:13.719
I just love it adorable as well as vaudeville acts.

782
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.920
And then it played silent films and talkies, which they

783
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:25.079
specifically said and talkies and now the port Gamble Ghost

784
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.400
Conference is held there and they claim that that's the

785
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:29.639
oldest ghost conference.

786
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.559
I mean, I want to believe them. Can they back

787
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:34.960
it up?

788
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.719
I did in fact check it, but that's what they

789
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.760
claim and I'm not going to question it, so.

790
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.280
All right, I mean that's fair to take them at

791
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:43.679
their word.

792
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.000
Yeah, I want to go to the ghost Conference. I

793
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.000
think that would be so fun. They like actually teaching

794
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:55.559
classes and teaching classes. They can take classes to learn

795
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:01.159
like how to paranormal investigate things. Yeah. Yeah, well that's

796
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.679
all I have about port Gamble in the walker Ames House,

797
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.039
and I think we should maybe do some taro.

798
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:10.280
Oh you think so?

799
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.679
I think we should. We kind of said we do that,

800
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.840
so we probably should do that.

801
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.440
I guess we did kind of promise that at the top,

802
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:28.239
So fair enough. I did the shoe flea. I have

803
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.760
the cards laid out in front of my cable.

804
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.880
Okay, let's go with the W side because it's like

805
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.360
by the A too. Walker aims it works.

806
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.440
Yeah, it does, And it's funny because that just happens

807
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.440
to be in a spot where you know, when you

808
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.920
like go to try to flush out like a whole

809
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.719
deck there's always like kind of little clumps there. There

810
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.320
do be a clump, so I need to know left

811
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.159
or right. There's no middle, there's kind of a middle.

812
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.039
I don't know. My brain said middle before you ask.

813
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.119
Okay, well that's the card that's conveniently the hardest to get.

814
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:13.599
But oh, oh interesting, okay, oh okay, five of swords.

815
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:15.320
It's an owl.

816
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.440
Over the river side. You probably can't really tell, but

817
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.199
there's actually two animals there.

818
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.639
Oh, he's got a rodin in his mouth. Yeah, oh

819
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:34.000
spooky it's the Northern spotted owl and Humboldt flying squirrel.

820
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:40.840
Oh not anymore, not anymore, so much okay, So keywords

821
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:46.760
in our little book are aggression, conflict, hostility, ambition, defeat,

822
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.639
or winning at any cost, which makes me think of

823
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.239
the hotel and the gambling that kind of does.

824
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.199
Yeah, okay. A quick series of flaps and then silence,

825
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:04.639
A shadow momentarily eclipsing a sliver of moonlight, the intangible

826
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.719
feeling of a sharp eyed stare from above. The squirrel

827
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.760
never stood a chance. Really. She was perched upon a

828
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:19.039
springy limb, plotting the fastest route home to her leaf

829
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:24.199
filled nest. She readied her jump crunching down and tensing

830
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.760
her muscles. But instead of launching forward, she was lifted up,

831
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:36.039
carried aloft by razor talons under silent wings. There was

832
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:40.639
no pain, only shock, no hope of fighting back, only

833
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.920
total defeat. The battle was over before she even knew

834
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.079
it was happening. Ah for the owl, it was a

835
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:56.320
single meal, sustenance for an evening, unremarkable and soon forgotten.

836
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.559
It just gives me the so like kind of the

837
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.440
vibes of like a haunting, like they're there, they kind

838
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.400
of just pop in and scare you and then disappear

839
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.599
and like take your energy.

840
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.280
And write just another Tuesday.

841
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.599
Yeah, and you said, did you say something about a

842
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.239
shadow in the beginning, because we talked about like a

843
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.159
shadow figure.

844
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.639
Oh, a shadow momentarily eclipsing a sliver of moonlight.

845
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.880
Yeah, so shadow interesting.

846
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:39.480
Okay. And in our Big Book, the keywords are change, adjustment, loss, destruction, conflict, indecision,

847
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.679
and sadness. The number five signifies change, and this card

848
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.079
shows a time of adjustment after a conflict of some kind.

849
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.960
Sometimes the fight stems from ideological or spiritual differences.

850
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:57.840
That makes me think of what I said about the

851
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.880
house being like lived in and and then all of

852
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.000
a sudden, like it's abandoned and there's like some loss. Yeah,

853
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.599
either like by the house's spirit or the like spirits

854
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.199
in the house. Maybe they feel like a sense of loss.

855
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:17.760
Oh, it's interesting that you say lost specifically. So the

856
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.880
writer Wait Smith, Aquarian, and some other decks show a

857
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.400
soldier on the battlefield at the end of a fight.

858
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.679
The card asks what have you won or lost?

859
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.800
I think loss was one of the key words, is

860
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:31.440
why I said that.

861
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.960
Yeah, but it makes sense though, like I feel like

862
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.880
loss has so many different connotations.

863
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.039
And then I also think of the town, like, thankfully

864
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.599
it was deemed a historic location, otherwise it could have

865
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.800
just been a ghost town right once the mill shut down.

866
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:53.599
I mean literally. The Five of Swords symbolizes the devastation

867
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:58.400
of war and recommends using diplomacy to resolve problems. After

868
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.519
a battle, you realize fighting isn't the best way to

869
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.360
settle disputes. The cost of winning may not be worth

870
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:10.480
the losses you've endured. I'm just going straight back to

871
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.800
the gambling or the.

872
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.239
Little boy in the basement, Like, fighting is not the

873
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.760
way to get people to go you toys.

874
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.719
No, Honestly, that's such a good Yeah. No, that's such

875
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.159
a good insight too. In a reading about money, this

876
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:32.800
card represents disputes over money, perhaps an illegal matter. It

877
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.639
also warns that even if you win, you may suffer.

878
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:43.079
Try to resolve differences without drawing swords. Vacillation or lack

879
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.960
of clarity can cause setbacks too. If the reading is

880
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.119
about your job, the Upright five cautions you to avoid arguments,

881
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.519
don't make enemies. This card may also indicate you're confused

882
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.719
about how to proceed, or suggest you need to get

883
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.719
more info before taking the next step. In a reading

884
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.239
about love, this card says you won't get what you

885
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:11.679
want by arguing hurtful words can't be taken back. Try

886
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:16.000
to resolve problems amicably, honestly, and fairly. You may have

887
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.639
to make some changes in order to improve a situation. Interesting.

888
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.199
I do feel like there's a little bit of a

889
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.639
vibe of like stop with the hair pulling, or I.

890
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.559
Think of the house and like what other towns people

891
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:35.800
think of it just basically being used for ghost tours

892
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.920
because I I didn't see it was used for anything else.

893
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:42.880
Yeah, I do wonder.

894
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.159
Like except for maybe filming some scary movies, and things

895
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.079
in the basement. But I wonder what they think about that,

896
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.400
since like a lot of the other buildings have been

897
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.400
restored and are being used.

898
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:55.559
Right, what do people think about that?

899
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.280
Yeah, Like, are they okay with that because that is

900
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.239
like the biggest, most historical home in town.

901
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.920
Yeah, maybe they'd like to see it used for another purpose.

902
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:09.480
I don't know, restore the inside, have it be a

903
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:10.039
B and B.

904
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.480
You know. I do wonder sort of what people think

905
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:14.000
about that.

906
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.239
It didn't come across anything like really negative about it,

907
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:22.760
but that doesn't mean it's not there. Okay.

908
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:29.440
So while we're chatting, I just thought, what if I

909
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:34.199
just pulled up the other card, you know, adjacent to it?

910
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.880
Oooh okay, I like it to go with your gut.

911
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.719
I was just curious, and most of the time I'm like, okay,

912
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.000
I feel like either the card reading, we you know,

913
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.760
kind of see some things. There's like some symbolism, you know,

914
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.800
it is what it is. I don't necessarily always like

915
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.199
get this gut feeling to draw multiple cards. But we

916
00:53:58.320 --> 00:53:59.840
drew the High Priestess.

917
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.000
And oh okay.

918
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:10.039
Keywords are intuition, emotions, feminine power, imagination, spirituality, and the

919
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:14.920
inner life. It's interesting because and I'll just really briefly,

920
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.039
I won't read through the whole description, but this is

921
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:22.639
the one where it's a woman that's seated, usually positioned

922
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:27.280
between two pillars, one black and one white, which represents

923
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.320
the dual nature of existence, good and evil, light and dark,

924
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:36.960
truth and deception, positive and negative. There's an extra excerpt

925
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:42.519
before the reverse interpretation. The shadow psychologist Carl g Jung

926
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:48.239
thought the High Priestess symbolized the shadow, the unknown, secret,

927
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.960
dark and mysterious part that lies within each of us.

928
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.000
Ooh, or lies within each home. Uh huh.

929
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.239
And you're gonna absolutely shait your brain because the first

930
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:06.239
sentence and the reverse interpretation is the High Priestess reversed says,

931
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.880
your unrealized potential has yet to be discovered, which is

932
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:15.039
exciting enough talking about this house, and we were just saying,

933
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.360
I wonder if the locals would like to see it utilized,

934
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:24.039
possibly in a different way. Yeah, your secret, authentic self

935
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:34.920
is locked away in the basement. Jill, did you get

936
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:39.599
Jills goes? Jill and I was just hot not that

937
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:44.199
long ago, So yeah, it's just kind of crazy. I

938
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.360
was like, I don't even really need to like get

939
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.280
into the rest of the interpretation on this one. I

940
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:55.519
feel like because shadow Basement, like I think those are

941
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.320
the main bullets that we need here, Like I'm glad

942
00:55:58.320 --> 00:55:59.159
I looked at that.

943
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:03.400
One too, and the fact that it's a woman, Like yes,

944
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:07.000
women ghosts were heavily featured in this episode.

945
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.679
Right, and you know the imagery of like you know,

946
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.920
you're in this long robe and you're between the white

947
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:19.719
and the black pillars. Okay, So then the other thing was,

948
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.679
you know, I said left or right, and you said,

949
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.880
is there a middle? We drew the middle card, so

950
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.800
then I was like, well, what's on the left of it?

951
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.079
Because I was trying to get you to draw left

952
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.639
right and you said middle. So anyways, the one on

953
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:38.119
the left was the King of Wands. So this is

954
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.599
really interesting because it's like our first card that we

955
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:46.239
read with sandwich between these like male female. I want

956
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.800
to say like authority figure in a way I don't

957
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.000
know if that's really the right word, but keywords for

958
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.199
the King of Wands leadership, self confidence, success, good fortune,

959
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.599
and loyalty. And this is another one where it's like,

960
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:05.280
you know, well it's a king. He's seated on a throne,

961
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.800
he's got the handsome robe and all that. It's not

962
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.599
a threatening figure. It's a dignified man who exudes confidence, authority,

963
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.119
and power, like I don't know, maybe the company man.

964
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:21.880
Yeah, walker or ams or paranormal pete.

965
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:26.719
I'm just saying so. It says in a reading the

966
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:30.360
king may signify an actual person when he does, it's

967
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:33.960
generally a mature man who's obtained a position of wealth

968
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.599
and status, perhaps the head of a business or a

969
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.119
leader in the community.

970
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.199
Oh wow, Yeah, that totally fits.

971
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.599
This is crazy. The king, upright, is a fortunate card,

972
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.840
regardless of the situation. If he represents a real person,

973
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.239
it's someone you can trust and rely on to do

974
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.960
the right thing. He's a loyal friend, a fair minded employer,

975
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.960
a wise advisor, a competent and honest leader.

976
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:08.639
That's cool. Yeah, Oh it's a it's a wolf or coyotes. Yeah,

977
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:09.440
that's a wolf.

978
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.880
Yeah. I feel like based on the stature of it,

979
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:13.480
coyotes are kind of gangly.

980
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:18.559
Yeah. What was the other one? They'll high priestesst one.

981
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:19.320
You didn't show me.

982
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.159
I know, because I don't want to touch it.

983
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:25.480
Is it a bug? Oh, it's the spider, that's right.

984
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.719
I love the.

985
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.920
It's really pretty. But yeah, I'm like, no, thank you.

986
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.639
It isn't a flower and there was a report of

987
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:40.199
floral scent. So just saying, I'm sure there are a

988
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:41.639
lot of spiders in that house too.

989
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.760
Oh yeah, there have to be. That's a golden rod

990
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.519
crab spider, which is so interesting because it's like this

991
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.159
coastal place.

992
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.360
Yeah. Well, we'll have to go visit sometime. Maybe possibly

993
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.400
you just outside, but meet inside. For sure. I want

994
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:01.039
to do a tour.

995
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.480
You're like, I'm going in.

996
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:08.719
Paranormal pete, give me a private tour. I don't want

997
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:09.639
to go with the whole group.

998
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.880
Yeah, no, you want to have like the VIP experience.

999
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:14.400
Yeah.

1000
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.920
I think we know a couple of other podcasters we

1001
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:20.159
could drag around up in there.

1002
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.320
I think we could form our own tour group just

1003
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.199
by the people we know. That would be fun.

1004
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.480
All right, should we do that day? Let's do her

1005
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.679
have a creepy day. We'll see you next Thursday.

1006
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.280
Unless you're stuck in the basement of the walker Aims

1007
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:43.119
House with the ferns and the mosque and the touchy

1008
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:46.199
little boy.

1009
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.840
Yeah, because I definitely won't. That's that's not.

1010
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.039
Where I will be. I know you're like, I'm not

1011
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.360
going to basement. I'm not going to the attic. I'm

1012
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:55.280
on the main floor. This is where i'm at.

1013
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:01.159
I'll say, there's a good chance I'm and on the lawn.

1014
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:05.559
On the front porch so you can look at the bay.

1015
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:06.920
I love it

1016
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:09.480
That I can get behind