The Hollywood Bandit

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Law enforcement was having a startling realization of their own as well.

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They had come to the conclusion that Hollywood would not go down without a fight.

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Their assessment was correct, as if they'd known his precise thoughts.

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Listen, no matter what, let your own hand be the hand of fate, and never let your enemy dictate your fate.

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Scott said when hiking in the Olympics at the top of Mount Washington.

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[Music]

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[Music]

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Hi Cassie.

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Hi Caitlyn.

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Hi creepy people.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Sorry my hand was stuck in my blankie here.

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Oh, wrapped up nice and cozy.

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So cozy and my blankie that Caitlyn made me.

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I might it.

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I love it.

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And I matched the background.

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Yeah, you're very, you're on the theme that currently is appearing.

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Anywhosal, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, Cassie's blanket, you know, whatever strikes our fancy.

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And where?

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Where do we, where do we talk about these things?

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I think PNW.

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You should say the Pacific Northwest.

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Pacific Northwest.

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Or the PNW if you're nasty.

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Oh my god, I'm saying this under duress, which also is very on theme for today.

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So you're welcome.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode or just a little deeper insight into our topic.

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Yeah, so stick around.

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If you're into that.

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If you're into it.

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Getting here.

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Getting my cozy blankie.

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Come snuggle, have a drink.

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Just have a cuddle.

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Have a cuddle.

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A cuddle.

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Cheers.

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Ooh.

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Snoop's bubbles taste amazing.

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Yeah.

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All right, I'm going to get right into it.

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Okay.

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Already.

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I'm ready.

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Seven minutes in.

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Let's go.

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Yeah.

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That's fine.

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Okay, listen, I had to open that explosive bottle.

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Yeah, it won't be technically seven minutes as you guys are listening.

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But.

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Exactly.

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Scott Scurlock was born March 5th, 1955 in Maryland.

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He grew up with a loving family in Virginia and had one sister named Suzanne.

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His mother was a teacher for special needs children and his father was a preacher.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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So far.

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My next sentence, which perhaps makes the trajectory of his adult life all the more surprising.

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Before long, the kids he'd grown up with were headed off to college, including his friend, Kevin Myers.

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Though Scott would follow Kevin to the island in 1974, he wasn't nearly as academically inclined

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as his friend who moved there to attend the University of Hawaii.

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Okay.

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I was like, what island are you talking about?

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The island who shall not be named.

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Because I will never go there.

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Oh, well, come on.

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Volcanoes.

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Volcanoes.

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Volcanoes.

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They were reportedly lived and worked on a tomato farm there until their secret marijuana

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grow up was discovered.

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I feel like there's a lot of words in that sentence that don't feel quite right.

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I don't think of tomatoes from Hawaii.

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But I'm sure a lot of things are grown there.

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But like they just need like a warm environment, right?

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I, yeah.

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Warm ish.

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Yeah, they do thrive in kind of like the California climate, obviously in Italy.

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We go tomatoes here.

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I mean, it's not like, yeah.

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Very seeds of summer.

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I'm liking this marijuana farm though.

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Real green.

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By 1978, Scott was attending Evergreen College.

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Along with another friend, Mark Biggins, the college community captures a smaller town feel

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than you might find in say Seattle, though it's still characterized by an earthy progressive

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vibe because it's like Auburn.

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Oh, okay.

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I was like, wait, is this evergreen in Hawaii or is this Washington?

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He's back in Washington.

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That whole thing with the, you know, living on the tomato farm, but growing a different plant,

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I didn't really pan out that well.

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I can't imagine why.

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Yeah, I know.

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Zar.

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Suzanne Skirlach, his sister, described her brother Scott as an adrenaline junkie.

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Given his body academic track record and previous entrepreneurial endeavor, it may come as a surprise

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that at one point Scott aspired to become a doctor.

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Wow.

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That's aspirational.

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Yes.

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Lofty goes.

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However, that ambition fell by the wayside when he began working in the chemistry lab.

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Oh, what's he learning to make?

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He would go from being a single course away from finishing his undergrad in chemistry and

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biology according to his sister to being unceremoniously banished from the campus.

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This was following the discovery that he had been making meth in the college's lab.

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That's the first thing I thought of when you said chemistry.

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Yes.

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It's a real breaking bad moment.

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Oh, that's so dangerous in the schools or not.

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It wasn't a school.

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It wasn't a school.

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In the school's lab.

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The college's chemistry lab.

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Holy shit.

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It is very dangerous.

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He continued manufacturing meth and gradually gained a reputation for producing a remarkably

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pure product that many said was unrivaled at the time.

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So very reminiscent of what you're right.

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I've only seen a few episodes, but that sounds just like it.

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Minus the cancer so far.

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But you know, yes.

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Eventually, he bought a property deep in the woods of Washington state near Olympia, where

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he built a tree house as well as a barn where the cooking was done.

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A literal tree house.

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A literal tree house.

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That's so cool.

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I will show you some pictures.

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I was just thinking the other day about how he wanted to live in a tree house.

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Maybe not his.

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I just want to live in like a really nice tree house.

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No, a really nice tree.

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This was not a not.

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It wasn't a bad tree house per se, but okay, I'm going to send you the pictures.

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Oh, whoa.

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Whoa.

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He built this.

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That is crazy.

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We're going to talk some more about the tree house.

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I mean, it looks a little shanky.

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Shanky?

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What?

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Janky.

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Looks a little shanky.

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But that's, I'll tell you more about it, then maybe save your official assessment for the

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pod.

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It just looks elaborate.

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Definitely.

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Definitely.

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And he did have a lot of help.

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The place was built around seven huge cedar trees, about 40 feet up with a gorgeous view of Mount

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Seriously, the view, I mean, to die for.

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Wow.

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Absolutely incredible.

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Mark, his friend, who he went to Evergreen College with, and his daughter came to live in the tree

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house with Scott when Mark's marriage ended.

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Obviously, this was far from a traditional dwelling.

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When you see the pictures, you know, I inclined to think that you will agree.

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Aside from the remarkable bird's eye view, the tree house also reportedly boasted an extra large

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fireplace because, do I, that seems dangerous.

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I'd listen.

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Lots of houses are built from wood.

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And around trees, but just like in a tree, I don't know something about that.

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It feels a little bit weird.

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An outdoor bathroom complete with a large bathtub, as well as an emergency escape zip line.

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Wow.

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Should it do it?

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We thought of everything.

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Really did.

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Scott's Woodland Peter Pan lifestyle was in stark contrast to the norm of the era, for sure.

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Early 1990s Seattle was an exciting place with lots of booming businesses.

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Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks, and the like had begun joining the ranks of warehouse and Boeing.

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Ooh, we've heard of them.

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Sure have.

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Also, 90s Seattle.

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French music.

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It's a vibe.

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Ooh, that's so funny, my next sentence.

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The city also had a booming grunge slash punk rock scene.

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Scott would meet with Captain Pat in the forested area up on his property.

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Pat was referred to as the finance man to transfer money and product.

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AKA, math in case anyone got lost.

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Captain Pat the finance man.

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Got it.

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Scott would bring 180 pounds of product and his counterpart would hand off $2 million.

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That's a lot.

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It's a lot of a lot of things.

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I don't know how much math weighs.

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Like, it seems like it would be pretty heavy, right?

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Well, I mean, either way, 180 pounds of it.

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It's a lot.

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And $2 million.

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$2 million.

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In the early 90s.

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Pat had been the one to introduce Scott to Matt.

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So, you know, nice guy.

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Once the connections made, you know, business deals and whatnot.

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After Pat took care of the pickup with Scott, he'd take it down to Barstow to sell it to the hell's angels.

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They be method.

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They be.

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Oh, girl, they be met the real hard, especially in this era.

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Your captain Pat was murdered in 1990.

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Scott was devastated and decided that the meth business was just too dangerous for him.

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Yeah, I thought you're a finance guy.

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So, I mean, the 80s, early 90s.

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I mean, still a very dangerous time for people in that line of work.

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What a funk.

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In the early 90s, Scott and Mark were in the same place.

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In the early 90s, Scott and Mark were in the same place.

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And they were in the same place.

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And they were in the same place.

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And they were in the same place.

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And they were in the same place.

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329
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333
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334
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And they were in the same place.

335
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And they were in the same place.

336
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And they were in the same place.

337
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And they were in the same place.

338
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And they were in the same place.

339
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340
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341
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342
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And they were in the same place.

343
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I didn't have a lot of notes for them.

344
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Beyond the obvious, which is, you know, don't rob banks.

345
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They changed their likeness and swapped vehicles,

346
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which tends to at least confuse

347
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or temporarily slow down an investigation.

348
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,200
So far, I mean,

349
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How do we know it was a mask?

350
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What if it was just Ronald Reagan?

351
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I think at this point, Ronald Reagan,

352
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I think he was spending a lot of time sundowning.

353
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Again, not going to fact check on that front,

354
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,200
because I like my ridiculous questions.

355
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Okay.

356
00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,200
No, I love the question.

357
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But trying to defend like the answer is like, so.

358
00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,200
Yeah.

359
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Would they like the people who started like the same owner drugs things?

360
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,200
Yes.

361
00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,200
Yeah.

362
00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,200
Sure.

363
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Where?

364
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That's funny.

365
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,200
Yeah.

366
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,200
Dare to say no to drugs.

367
00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200
Regarding this initial robbery,

368
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two versions of how it played out emerged,

369
00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,200
depending on who was telling the story.

370
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One version said that Scott went in,

371
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Mark followed.

372
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Then when the latter man's nerves took over,

373
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he clumsily shouted for everyone to get down,

374
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which Scott quickly countered,

375
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instructing everybody to stand up,

376
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which is an actual nightmare,

377
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because what the fuck do you do in that situation?

378
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People just want to follow the instructions

379
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and make it out relatively unscathed.

380
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Yeah.

381
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Just like, I don't care what I need to do.

382
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Just don't kill me.

383
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Yeah.

384
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That's like a really fucked up version of Squid Game or something.

385
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Oh my god.

386
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Now, in an alternate version,

387
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Mark remembered things differently,

388
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believing that everyone had already been down on the ground

389
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as he made his way, trailing after Scott.

390
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And it doesn't really make a lot of sense,

391
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because I don't know why people would already be down on the ground,

392
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unless Scott went in that much further ahead of him.

393
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Right.

394
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Like, what are you loitering at the door?

395
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I don't--

396
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I feel like--

397
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I feel like the first one.

398
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Let's let that guy go in first, right?

399
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200
A little bit.

400
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What was I like?

401
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200
Which--

402
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,200
I mean, the more we learn about Mark,

403
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the more believable that does sort of seem.

404
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But I don't think it makes sense.

405
00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,200
Yeah.

406
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It's believable, but it doesn't make sense.

407
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,200
I don't know.

408
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Maybe I'm wrong.

409
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,200
The way you said it didn't really sound like it made sense.

410
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But--

411
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And doesn't it?

412
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I'm not sure that I have a strong opinion,

413
00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,200
one way or the other,

414
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and also sometimes I lie when I'm writing my notes.

415
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(laughs)

416
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Regarding what we should consider the official story,

417
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,200
but I am about to have notes.

418
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,200
Scott called to Mark.

419
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,200
Mark.

420
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,200
Did you get the keys as they turned to leave?

421
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200
Obviously, Mark is a pretty common name.

422
00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,200
That detail is not going to make them readily identifiable,

423
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,200
but that was obviously a pretty careless mistake

424
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to reveal his partner's real name.

425
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,200
Yeah.

426
00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,200
What?

427
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,200
Kind of a bonehead move.

428
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200
At any rate, they tore off into stolen vehicle,

429
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200
which--

430
00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,200
Okay, everybody in that bank is having like

431
00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,200
not the coolest day,

432
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,200
but one guy is having a really rough fucking day.

433
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He was just involved in a bank robbery

434
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,200
and then had his car stolen.

435
00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,200
Damn, dude.

436
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,200
What a fucking sad thing.

437
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,200
That's sad.

438
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,200
I hope he's okay.

439
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,200
I know.

440
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,200
I'm sure he's okay.

441
00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,200
These early ones,

442
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,200
I feel like,

443
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200
yeah, there's more.

444
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,200
Oops.

445
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,200
They neared their intended meeting spot

446
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,200
only to find that Mark's friend wasn't waiting there.

447
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,200
The driver had panicked and gone to their plan B spot.

448
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:49,200
So Mark and Scott went galloping across a golf course to Scott's van.

449
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:54,200
So just dudes that look like they're basically dressed up for Halloween,

450
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,200
running across a golf course green.

451
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200
Is it like the middle of the day?

452
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200
I believe so.

453
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,200
Yeah.

454
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,200
So you assume like people are probably out there golfing?

455
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,200
I mean, I also think this was a weekday,

456
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,200
so it may not have been like super busy.

457
00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,200
It was probably in the earlier part of the day.

458
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,200
Don't the only people that golf like retired old guys,

459
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,200
retired doctors, executives.

460
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,200
I assume it was just it was an interesting like,

461
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,200
yeah, the imagery is strong.

462
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,200
Yeah.

463
00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,200
There had to be someone out there probably that like kind of spotted them

464
00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,200
and sort of corroborated the story of them having done this, I feel like,

465
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,200
but I don't know.

466
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,200
Following the robbery, Mark said,

467
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I'm never doing that again.

468
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,200
Good.

469
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,200
Scott had a slightly different response.

470
00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,200
Are you sure?

471
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,200
Let's go do another one right now.

472
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,200
Right now?

473
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,200
Well, my dick is still hard.

474
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,200
Right?

475
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,200
Is this?

476
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,200
Mark left town for a while hiding out in Montana

477
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for a time.

478
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,200
I'd be scared like I do.

479
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,200
Well, but I think he was just afraid that, you know,

480
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,200
right?

481
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,200
And to get like taught.

482
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,200
I just robbed a bank.

483
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,200
Yeah.

484
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,200
Rubbery, number one, netted them $19,971.

485
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,200
Oh, that's not too bad.

486
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,200
Yeah.

487
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,200
I mean, it's a lot more than a typical bank.

488
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,200
Rubber walks away with these days.

489
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,200
I will say.

490
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200
It's not meth money, but no.

491
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,200
Maybe that ain't meth money.

492
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,200
It's probably got traces of meth on it,

493
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:42,200
meth or cocaine, likely feces as well.

494
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,200
Invigorated and inspired to continue to perfect his methods,

495
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,200
Scott was far from calling it quits despite Mark's departure.

496
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,200
I mean, he did have other friends, after all.

497
00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,200
Scott's next co-conspirator was Steve Myers.

498
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,200
He was an artist who had sculpted and traveled internationally

499
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:11,200
that was quickly charmed by Scott when presented the idea of teaming up.

500
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,200
Just how does that conversation start?

501
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,200
I was thinking, how do you go about that?

502
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,200
How does one?

503
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,200
Yeah.

504
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,200
Steve would say that robbing banks was Scott,

505
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,200
was by far his more creative endeavor,

506
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,200
even when compared to what he'd done in the art world.

507
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,200
Okay.

508
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,200
I don't see how, but okay.

509
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,200
I think I'll explain.

510
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,200
It may not make sense to you, but you'll understand his reasoning.

511
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,200
Okay.

512
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,200
I don't know.

513
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,200
I'm all for creativity in life.

514
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,200
Yeah.

515
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,200
Steve took to monitoring the police scanners and local patrols,

516
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,200
logging the times related to their routes to plan their robberies.

517
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:59,200
Steve also brought high quality movie style prosthetics in to the operation,

518
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,200
which reminds me of step-rothers because of course it does.

519
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,200
Okay.

520
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200
It's okay to not move the quality.

521
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,200
It's a very iconic look.

522
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:15,200
There's a lot of really iconic imagery that's associated with this case in general.

523
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,200
I mean, fuck the tree house.

524
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,200
God.

525
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,200
So weird.

526
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,200
Yeah.

527
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,200
It's, yeah.

528
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:28,200
The first robbery, Steve and Scott did together was the very same branch

529
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,200
that Scott and Mark had hit just six weeks prior.

530
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,200
I don't know if that's like really dumb or really smart.

531
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,200
Yeah.

532
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200
They do a lot of stuff like that where you're like,

533
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,200
either that's really dumb or really smart.

534
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:49,200
And I'm going to need to wait until somebody smarter than me comes on the screen as the talking head.

535
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,200
It tells me.

536
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,200
Yeah.

537
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,200
Well, but yeah.

538
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,200
I mean, two things can be true.

539
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,200
Right.

540
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:05,200
The take for the second robbery was $8,124 and 50 cents.

541
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,200
Well, they just robbed all the money.

542
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,200
Yeah.

543
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,200
No.

544
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,200
Like, there wasn't any left.

545
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,200
Yeah.

546
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:22,200
And it wasn't much better for the third where they netted 9,613.

547
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:32,200
I don't know that there was as much awareness or systems in place at this point, but having

548
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,200
worked as a teller in the art.

549
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:42,200
I will tell you that they specifically structure and have protocols in place.

550
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,200
So that each teller only has a certain amount of cash in their drawers.

551
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,200
Right.

552
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,200
I mean, that makes sense.

553
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,200
Yeah.

554
00:21:51,200 --> 00:22:01,200
So unless you're going, you know, and hitting like an armored vehicle or, you know, something where you have access to a lot more,

555
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:09,200
or if you go to a branch where it's like teller row and there's like 10, 12 tellers and you're, you know, taking them all.

556
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,200
Yeah.

557
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,200
Yeah.

558
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,200
It's not, it's not crazy to think that you're probably not going to walk away with that much.

559
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,200
Yeah.

560
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,200
Because like, I feel like you're not going to be breaking into the safe.

561
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,200
Like that takes a lot of time.

562
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,200
Sure.

563
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,200
Or you would need people to get the codes and things.

564
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,200
Do they do that later?

565
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,200
It's interesting because I specifically didn't mention the vault.

566
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,200
But I mean, I assume all the banks have vaults.

567
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,200
Yeah.

568
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:46,200
I mean, I think that would be like, pretty much every branch has a vault in some form or fashion, but maybe this is a weird thing to focus on based on the information I've just presented.

569
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,200
These guys just robbed two more banks after all.

570
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:57,200
But all I can think about is why and how in the actual fuck did they end up with change?

571
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,200
8,124 dollars and 50 cents.

572
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200
And 50.

573
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,200
I'm like, but did they get like rolls of coins?

574
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200
But like, where does the 50 cents?

575
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200
Because those are all like even numbered right rolls.

576
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,200
Yeah.

577
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,200
Yeah.

578
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,200
No, quarters come in rolls that are a total value of $10 typically.

579
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,200
Maybe they drop some.

580
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,200
I don't know.

581
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:28,200
I'm just saying typically unless we're talking about an old timey robbery, I don't think anyone slows down to gather up change.

582
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,200
Yeah.

583
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Maybe it was on the ground.

584
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,200
And they were just like, hey, 50 cents.

585
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,200
Cool.

586
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,200
I really don't think that.

587
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,200
It's upsetting to me because I was almost done writing up this case.

588
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:52,200
And I'd watched a documentary and read dozens of articles about this case already before I realized I was like, that says 50 cents.

589
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,200
50 cents.

590
00:23:53,200 --> 00:24:00,200
And I tend to trust this like source material.

591
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,200
I'm sorry.

592
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:08,200
What were they taking money like from the people inside like telling them to empty their pockets or my knowledge.

593
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,200
Yeah.

594
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,200
Interesting.

595
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,200
And honestly, the when you look at the ROI just isn't there.

596
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:22,200
Obviously with coins, it's heavy and doesn't have the same value that like bills would.

597
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,200
Yeah.

598
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:29,200
Listen, we can we could stay right here and focus on this for arguably another hour.

599
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200
We won't.

600
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,200
You're welcome.

601
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,200
I just like to think there was like 50 cents laying on the counter and they've just swiped it.

602
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,200
I just feel like like why would you even stop to do that?

603
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,200
I don't know.

604
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,200
You have to get in and out fat.

605
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,200
Like I said, we could be here for an hour.

606
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:52,200
The fact that the initial robberies weren't alarmingly large, allowed Scott and his cohorts to fly under the radar.

607
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:59,200
At least initially, it also motivated them to take things further by targeting the vault.

608
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,200
Ooh, that's bony peat.

609
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200
That's when Mustang joined the team.

610
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:14,200
She became a teller at the seafirst bank to get them insider information about the bank protocols,

611
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,200
including the deliveries arriving from armored vehicles with cash.

612
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,200
Wow.

613
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,200
I know.

614
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200
I'm like bad person, but I'm excited.

615
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,200
There's a woman involved.

616
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,200
I know.

617
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,200
Like bad men is that.

618
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,200
You know, seriously though.

619
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,200
Yeah.

620
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,200
Yeah.

621
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,200
We don't hear like, we don't hear that a lot.

622
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,200
I know.

623
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200
I was kind of like, what?

624
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Mustang.

625
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,200
Yeah.

626
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,200
Don't get emotionally attached to any of these people.

627
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,200
Oh, but Mustang.

628
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200
I'm picturing her as Aubrey Plaza for some reason.

629
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,200
Oh.

630
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,200
Yeah.

631
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:56,200
I would say based on what I know, I sort of pictured across between Donna from that 70s show

632
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,200
and Aubrey Plaza.

633
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Weird.

634
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Kind of a weird, very, yeah, very dry, a dry heat as well.

635
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,200
As they continue to perfect their plans, they developed some scripting.

636
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:19,200
So everybody knows when you start to develop a script, that is when it is business.

637
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,200
It is real.

638
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,200
It is official.

639
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,200
There are serious.

640
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,200
Yes.

641
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,200
Yes.

642
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,200
This is real.

643
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200
This is a robbery.

644
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,200
This was typically followed up by asking who the vault teller was.

645
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,200
Ooh.

646
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,200
Yep.

647
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,200
Scott seemed to be truly gifted at handling the interactions within the bank.

648
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,200
While Steve would be outside monitoring the scanner and radio.

649
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200
It's like a whole operation, dude.

650
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,200
Yeah.

651
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Their first haul from within the vault, you'll did $252,000.

652
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,200
Okay, quite a bit more.

653
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,200
Yes.

654
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:07,200
Now bringing their total haul for six robberies to $322,870.

655
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200
And 50 cents, of course.

656
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,200
50 cents.

657
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200
Really fucking bugs me.

658
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Fitty cent.

659
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Why are you going to do this?

660
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Fitty.

661
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,200
They progressed from teller drawers to armed takeovers.

662
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,200
And finally to vault takeovers.

663
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,200
Escalation.

664
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Yes.

665
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,200
And it's finest.

666
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,200
It is escalation at something.

667
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Something.

668
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Yeah.

669
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:42,200
The FBI nicknamed him Hollywood, which was appropriate, not only because of his disguises,

670
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:49,200
reminiscent of movie makeup, actually literally like professional grade movie makeup stuff.

671
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,200
That's like, that's cool.

672
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Like, not that any of this is cool, but like that piece of it.

673
00:27:53,200 --> 00:28:02,200
It's like, oh, I see where the creativity piece of it comes in because that's where his artist friend, you know, really helped him out.

674
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Also, because he apparently had been inspired by the character Brody from Point Break.

675
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,200
I don't know this.

676
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200
And not, yeah.

677
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
I know of it, but it's mostly in connection to True Crime.

678
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,200
So, okay.

679
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,200
He and his nine millimeter would make the most wanted list.

680
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:31,200
So Point Break is, I mean, the long and the short of it, I thought I put more here in my notes about like kind of a brief summary of Point Break.

681
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:49,200
But I think I also have another movie that they compare a different aspect of the case to and I really had to kind of get down to the brass tax and so Point Break is basically like Patrick Swaisy as like a surfer dude slash bank robber.

682
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,200
Okay.

683
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,200
You've had me a Patrick Swaisy baby.

684
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200
I, yeah, I knew it.

685
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,200
I knew it.

686
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Yeah.

687
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,200
Let's watch it.

688
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,200
We should.

689
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
We should.

690
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200
I'm down.

691
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Sean Johnson was the lead special agent of the FBI on Hollywood's case.

692
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:20,200
His counterpoint from the Seattle PD Mike Megan was his exact opposite in nearly every way according to not only those working with the pair, but their own personal assessments.

693
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Oh, oh, yeah.

694
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
So they're just raw deferred.

695
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Okay.

696
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:40,200
From each other, as the crimes became more high profile, they came under increasing scrutiny, which forced Scott and his accomplices to think outside the box in order to stay ahead of the authorities.

697
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Because all of a sudden they have somebody who's being referred to as the Hollywood band that's making the news.

698
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,200
Yeah.

699
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,200
You know, it's going to get you recognized pretty fast if you keep doing the same shit.

700
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Oh, interesting, interesting.

701
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Let you would say that.

702
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,200
Oh, sorry.

703
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,200
They wrote it.

704
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,200
No.

705
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Oh, yeah.

706
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,200
Okay.

707
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:09,200
So they would intentionally leave a vehicle behind for the cops to find, which seems counterintuitive.

708
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Yeah.

709
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:17,200
But they hired someone that looked nothing like, I mean, totally dissimilar to anyone involved in the crimes.

710
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,200
To buy a car and hand it off to someone on the robbery team.

711
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:30,200
For that person, it was easy money for doing something that might have seemed odd, but certainly not enough to raise much of a red flag.

712
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:41,200
In an effort to distort forensic evidence and whatever profile the police may have begun to form, they did a number of things to these cheap vehicles.

713
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,200
They picked that right.

714
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Oh, it's like the day.

715
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200
In the weirdest way possible.

716
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200
They used mineral spirits to clean the vehicles down.

717
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,200
And then in polar opposition, because remember, they just cleaned the vehicles.

718
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:05,200
They would plant email hair in other parts of the car, essentially just trying to make it as difficult as possible to figure out what the hell was going on.

719
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Is Hollywood a woman who drives a beater, but keeps it meticulously clean, saved for the same things we all leave behind unwittingly, which is our her.

720
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,200
I think it's his hair.

721
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,200
I don't know.

722
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,200
And that.

723
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Okay.

724
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,200
So I do.

725
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,200
And I don't.

726
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:30,200
So they talked about a couple of things where they were like, oh, yeah, they would just get hair from like a random like friend or something.

727
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Or.

728
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,200
And I'm like, but what if they were able to identify it as being her hair?

729
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Like, and you just drew suspicion to her.

730
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Listen.

731
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,200
And so they could just be able to identify what the DNA stuff that good back then.

732
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Yeah.

733
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
So they could just like tell if it was like a killer female.

734
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200
I don't even know if they can tell if they can tell.

735
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,200
For sure that it's male or female.

736
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
See that it's long.

737
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,200
And they're like, it's a girl.

738
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200
It's long.

739
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,200
These are girls.

740
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,200
I don't know why I said it like that.

741
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,200
But or like one of those crazy dogs that are in like all of the sporting shows and they have like the crazy long.

742
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Yeah, I forget what those are called.

743
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Any who's.

744
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,200
I don't know.

745
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:17,200
I don't know how effective this particular strategy was, but they did a number of other things to obfuscate other aspects of evidence in their crimes.

746
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Because if that if they stopped there, I'd be like.

747
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,200
Weird choice.

748
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200
That's not one of them where I'm like, is that really dumb or really smart?

749
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Yeah.

750
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,200
That one just seems like.

751
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Yeah.

752
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Like that seems like somebody who watches too much TV.

753
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Trying to think that they're smart.

754
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Yeah.

755
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,200
And it seems like a really like movie like yeah, like it kind of trophy.

756
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,200
Yeah, it can't be.

757
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Interesting.

758
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:50,200
When there were multiple routes or routes leading to certain bank branches, they would hire lookouts who would simply radio.

759
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,200
Mama's coming.

760
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Give the robbery team a heads up.

761
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,200
Mama's coming.

762
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Mama's coming.

763
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Oh my god.

764
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200
That's funny.

765
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,200
I don't know why it just really gets me.

766
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Mama's got like why it's got my funny mom.

767
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,200
This seems like a pretty obvious yet effective broach.

768
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Obviously like if you can have somebody tip you off, that's that's good.

769
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Right.

770
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200
For crimes.

771
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:30,200
They would repeatedly rob the same banks specifically to throw off the authorities because who would suspect you'd return to the bank.

772
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200
You'd return to the scene of the crime in this case.

773
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Yeah.

774
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,200
I mean, I like kind of well, and here's the thing.

775
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:45,200
I thought about it from the perspective of how the training kind of is for tellers.

776
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,200
So I'm sure the bank employees thought much the same.

777
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Like which sort of bolsters statements made by some of them about how traumatized they were.

778
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Because you're trained that like it's very unlikely that a bank is going to like repeatedly be hit there.

779
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:13,200
Obviously there are certain geographic demographic areas where yeah, maybe that bank gets hit more than the average, but you don't.

780
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,200
This is not the norm.

781
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,200
It would just be so like what's that word?

782
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Like you were just throw you off because you're like, oh, we were just robbed like, oh, like this is just a normal day a couple days later.

783
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Like nothing's going to happen because it just happened.

784
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,200
It would just be so like off putting her.

785
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Yeah, I know I'm like now I'm trying to think of.

786
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,200
There's a word.

787
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:45,200
It well, I mean, it would it would really, I mean off like it would just make you feel off.

788
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Like you would.

789
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200
It's almost like being gaslit.

790
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Yeah, kind of like that.

791
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,200
I can think of the word that I want.

792
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Yeah.

793
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200
But like you're thinking like discombobulating.

794
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Yeah.

795
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,200
But that's like a weird word, but.

796
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,200
But I mean, I feel like that kind of fits.

797
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Yeah.

798
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,200
I mean, shit.

799
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
We can we can Google some synonyms later.

800
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Everyone comment with a synonym for discombobulated.

801
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Oh my god.

802
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Disorienting.

803
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,200
I think that's what I think.

804
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Disorienting.

805
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,200
Yeah.

806
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:22,200
The team would scan the bills from each take with ultraviolet lights to identify any money that might be marked to further avoid detection.

807
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Ooh, okay, that's smart.

808
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Smart.

809
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Yeah.

810
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,200
They also scattered any bills with sequential serial numbers.

811
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:41,200
Something that occurs more frequently with brand new bills as one might encounter at a financial institution, particularly in a bustling city like Seattle.

812
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,200
That makes a lot of sense to sure do we're thinking of a lot of things they are.

813
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Yeah.

814
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:55,200
They would bury their gear in military canisters on Scott's property until they were ready to carry out the next robbery.

815
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Their clothes would then be burned in a nearby burn pit on the property as well.

816
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Oh, I don't know.

817
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,200
It's not like that's a lot.

818
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
That's a fair few hoops.

819
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Also, like maybe this is just because I'm a girl and am I I typically wear clothes that I like like oh no, I have to burn it.

820
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Well, hopefully they're buying clothes they don't really like it and that they would never wear so that's even more like a I know.

821
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Now I'm starting to think like them right.

822
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Yeah, I was like oh, I guess that makes sense.

823
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,200
I'm going to rob this in a fur coat because I never actually wear that.

824
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Never wear this.

825
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Unfortunately, no, I have to rob the bank because I bought a fur coat.

826
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Hey man, you got to spend money to make money.

827
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Once that checklist was complete, there was still one final and crucial step left.

828
00:36:49,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Anyone with ill gotten gains in the form of large stacks of cash can attest to the importance as well as the difficulty associated with making said unseem somehow legitimate.

829
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,200
It's like a full-time job.

830
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Yeah, are they hiring?

831
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,200
The next step was laundering.

832
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,200
So it was off to Vegas.

833
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Scott took the games of chance to aid in the money laundering, specifically of the sporting variety.

834
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Okay.

835
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,200
He plays equal bets on two teams at different casinos.

836
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,200
So if it's the Dallas Cowboys versus

837
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
another sports team, the Packers.

838
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,200
I should have written this down.

839
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Chiefs, because Taylor Swift.

840
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,200
The only one I know.

841
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,200
Right.

842
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,200
So you place a bet on both teams that are playing the same game.

843
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:57,200
They figured out that this way they'd get back all their money except the five percent the house takes.

844
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Small price to pay for liquid funds.

845
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Like paying taxes.

846
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,200
Like what?

847
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Just like that.

848
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Yeah, just like that.

849
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,200
Yeah, because when you win and you have a ton of money on the winning team, you win really big.

850
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Right.

851
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,200
And it evens out the loss.

852
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
That is.

853
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,200
I don't know if it still works that way.

854
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,200
I don't know if you.

855
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:28,200
I think that the major thing is they've made it really difficult for somebody to basically do this.

856
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,200
They made it really difficult for you to basically bet on both sides.

857
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Right.

858
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,200
I feel like they've they've by now figured out people's.

859
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Yeah.

860
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,200
Like it would admit it.

861
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
They probably like take your ID and all that.

862
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Yeah.

863
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,200
They're like, that's not taxes.

864
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Meanwhile, the investigation continued under the watchful eye of the public.

865
00:38:51,200 --> 00:39:03,200
David Curley of HiRot TV said it was a stunning sight when Sean Johnson of the FBI took to the local streets with flyers talking to anyone that might know something.

866
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,200
He said it was a clear signal that law enforcement was desperate for leads.

867
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,200
He said it was a clear signal that they had no clue.

868
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:25,200
I mean, it makes sense because they went to pretty great pains to, you know, to make sure that law enforcement had no clue.

869
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,200
I mean, they were doing everything they could to cover their tracks.

870
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Around the same time, those clues to Scott said, though, he never really outwardly acknowledged it.

871
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:42,200
He seemed to enjoy the media attention for the mysteries swirling around his many exploits.

872
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,200
I mean, if you're working that hard to keep it a mystery, then probably.

873
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Yeah.

874
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Sean stated he wanted Hollywood to see him.

875
00:39:51,200 --> 00:40:01,200
I know he was looking for him, which sounds like a little bit of a public dick measuring contest via the media, but to each the own, I suppose.

876
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:10,200
For a time, reportedly, the authorities considered the idea that Hollywood may have been law enforcement himself.

877
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Oh, shit. The plot thickens.

878
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Spoiler alert.

879
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200
He is not.

880
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,200
Not a spoiler.

881
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,200
Very though.

882
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Yeah. I think so.

883
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:30,200
I mean, I think it's sort of a testament to some of the things that initially they did well.

884
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,200
It feels weird to say.

885
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,200
Yeah.

886
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:43,200
But which sort of makes sense as a theory based on the sheer number of robberies with seemingly relatives, they just they they can't pull it them off.

887
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Because we've only technically talked about a couple, but there are a few.

888
00:40:50,200 --> 00:41:01,200
For a time, still unfazed by the manhunt and investigation, pursuing him, Scott traveled quite a bit and donated significantly to environmental groups.

889
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Some had begun to identify the Hollywood bandit as a Robin Hood type folk hero figure.

890
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Of course.

891
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:19,200
Though Steve disagrees with the Robin Hood characterization stating that if you look at Robin Hood, it was idealistic.

892
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,200
He stole from the rich and gave, you know, all of that nonsense.

893
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,200
And Scott wasn't like that.

894
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:35,200
He helped people that he knew if he needed something in the future to be done, he could call on them and they would do it.

895
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Oh, so kind of like a little more transactional.

896
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Eventually, as their prolific crimes became more widely known, Scott's get up was recognizable enough that a customer called the authorities as he was entering a bank.

897
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Oh, spaghetti.

898
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Yeah.

899
00:41:53,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Steve had to call him out of the bank when he heard the alert as he was monitoring the police scanner.

900
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:06,200
That robbery was called off and they hit a snag with the next robbery as well.

901
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,200
As Scott got into his getaway car, a die pack exploded in the cash bag.

902
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
So yeah.

903
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,200
So he was forced to toss it and take off.

904
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Oh, yeah.

905
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,200
All that work.

906
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,200
I know.

907
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,200
I know.

908
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Yeah, all that work.

909
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Despite occasional setbacks and hiccups, the team was always trying to do what the authorities would never expect.

910
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:42,200
So in that regard, I do think it's like they did a lot of things that were sort of counterintuitive and it it it did throw them off.

911
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:50,200
On January 27, 1995 at the C first Madison Park Bank, they did just that.

912
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:59,200
This branch was a challenging target as they need to flee down Madison Street, which would put them headed precisely in the direction of police.

913
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200
Who would no doubt be in hot pursuit of that?

914
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Okay.

915
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,200
Why would they do that?

916
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,200
Good question.

917
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Or how?

918
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,200
It was that or they'd have to go all the way around the area of lake.

919
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Okay.

920
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,200
But not a small detour.

921
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Okay.

922
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Steve suggested a third option.

923
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,200
I think this is where that creativity comes in.

924
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Go through the lake.

925
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Gotta make it to the drive.

926
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Yeah.

927
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,200
You're a big a police.

928
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Oh my god.

929
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Yeah.

930
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,200
I mean, hey, listen, they already have the zip line thing at the.

931
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Mist opportunity.

932
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Yeah. Well, not exactly following the robbery.

933
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,200
The plan was to get into the van while Steve waited out the heat at a local restaurant.

934
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Once police presence had dispersed, he would signal that the coast was clear.

935
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,200
So you're just going to hide out in a van.

936
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,200
And I'm sure it'll be fine.

937
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Yeah.

938
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Is it like an unmarked van with no windows?

939
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,200
It looks really safe.

940
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Actually so much better than that.

941
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
I mean,

942
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,200
it wasn't perfect because I am going to point out something that could have easily gotten them caught.

943
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:21,200
But they retrofitted the van so that someone could get down inside under the floor

944
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,200
to avoid detection even if authorities flashlights in through the windows.

945
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Wow.

946
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Okay.

947
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Yes.

948
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,200
Yes.

949
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200
However, if anyone had been paying particular attention to that vehicle,

950
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:41,200
they would have seen condensation building up on the windows from the hidden man's breathing.

951
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,200
Okay.

952
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Luckily for them, no one noticed.

953
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,200
Probably because they were out trying to find a bank robber.

954
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,200
And they were not paying attention to parked cars.

955
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Yeah.

956
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Condons.

957
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,200
So they just never left the area.

958
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,200
Wow.

959
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Like hiding in plain sight.

960
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Yes, exactly.

961
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,200
I mean, it's kind of, I hate to say it.

962
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,200
So it's kind of brilliant.

963
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Yeah.

964
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Is it dumb or is it smart?

965
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Yeah.

966
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,200
It can be bold.

967
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200
I mean, they didn't think about the condensation.

968
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,200
I don't think that's like,

969
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,200
I feel like probably most people wouldn't have thought of that.

970
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,200
I don't know.

971
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,200
I had to get condensation in my car, you know,

972
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,200
or you can't, if it leaks and stuff,

973
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,200
it doesn't necessarily have to be from someone breathing.

974
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,200
I think it would have been significant, like as if you were like, you know,

975
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
doing the nice thing.

976
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Hey, stop breathing under there.

977
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Yeah.

978
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Oh, man, if they had done an oxygen tank, I wonder if that would have worked.

979
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,200
I'm totally just like picturing Leo's hand in Titanic right now.

980
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Yeah.

981
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Kind of.

982
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Yeah.

983
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Yeah.

984
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,200
I'm glad you sold for a second, because I would have been thinking about that

985
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,200
when you were starting to talk.

986
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
And I don't know if I would have heard you.

987
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,200
No, you wouldn't know.

988
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,200
No, you wouldn't know.

989
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Time has proven that FBI was fearful that he would become violent,

990
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,200
especially as he began accessing the vault.

991
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,200
Because the stakes are significantly higher.

992
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,200
When the vault teller wasn't present at one robbery, he said,

993
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,200
"It's Christmas time.

994
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,200
I don't want to kill anybody."

995
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Before he used a stun gun on one employee.

996
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Oh.

997
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,200
And honestly, that's the most violent thing that I'm aware of,

998
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,200
that happened through the course of any of the robberies.

999
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Okay.

1000
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,200
And that would be really scary, especially in light of specifically what he just said there.

1001
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Yeah.

1002
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,200
And somehow we're still a little bit on Christmas.

1003
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200
But how do we do that?

1004
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
I mean, it was totally unintentional.

1005
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,200
And it's just like a quote that came up, nothing else that I can think of really

1006
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,200
relates to Christmas.

1007
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,200
But I'm wearing my Christmas present.

1008
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,200
And it's Christmas.

1009
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200
It is Christmas until July.

1010
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Yeah.

1011
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:03,200
The people that were present in these banks were traumatized.

1012
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Yeah.

1013
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Susan Dodd stated in the documentary that she was present for a total

1014
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:15,200
of 14 bank robberies up to the point that they filmed the documentary in her career.

1015
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Wow.

1016
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,200
One of which was the Hollywood bank robber.

1017
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,200
She said he had a very commanding presence that was very unusual.

1018
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,200
She wouldn't be the only one to note just how intimidating Hollywood could be.

1019
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Friends reported that Scott started to get stressed.

1020
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,200
It changed him and the vibe around the beloved tree house.

1021
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,200
Steve moved into a front house on the property.

1022
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:49,200
And essentially he lived there serving as a sort of gatekeeper.

1023
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,200
After all, the tree house had drawn admirers on occasion.

1024
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
I can't imagine why.

1025
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Yeah.

1026
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,200
I mean, it's pretty like the house itself is a site to behold.

1027
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:11,200
And then to be up in the tree house and like the view and to see some of the, you know, the details that are included in it.

1028
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,200
Yeah.

1029
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,200
I mean, of course, people are going to be, if they hear about it, they're going to be interested.

1030
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Yeah.

1031
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
So it doesn't, I mean, that part doesn't surprise me.

1032
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,200
However, they could no longer risk having too many eyes on the property.

1033
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Can't have crying eyes.

1034
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
No.

1035
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Scott's sister, Suzanne, shared a troubling conversation about the state of his mental health at the time.

1036
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,200
And that he was clearly drinking a lot.

1037
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,200
She couldn't quite work out what had Scott so on edge of late.

1038
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:51,200
And though she was concerned, there was little that she felt could be done.

1039
00:48:51,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Which I feel like is unfortunately too often the case when somebody doesn't have just like an extremely severe episode.

1040
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,200
And when you're an adult, there's little that oftentimes your family can do.

1041
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Even if they are worried about what's going on with you.

1042
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,200
But they're going to do an intervention.

1043
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:26,200
I mean, lead special agent Sean Johnson of the FBI had spent innumerable hours working the case with many others.

1044
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:32,200
He had tried to analyze every piece of evidence and data that was available to get ahead of Hollywood.

1045
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Based on his calculations, he believed that Hollywood was going through $21,000 a month.

1046
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Wow.

1047
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Yeah.

1048
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,200
Okay.

1049
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:51,200
He was then able to predict that Hollywood would hit again on one of three days in the new year.

1050
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,200
Holy shit.

1051
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Shelton Cooper who?

1052
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:02,200
It was the third of the three days that Sean had pinpointed.

1053
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Meanwhile, the robbery team drew his previous cohort, Mark, would fled to Montana back into this game.

1054
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:23,200
On January 25th, 1996, the first interstate wedge wood was to be their test run after taking almost a year off from the bank robberies.

1055
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,200
And of course, like I said, that also coincided with Mark's return.

1056
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,200
How they got him to come back?

1057
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
We'll never know.

1058
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:39,200
At the time, Sean was about a mile down the road from that very branch.

1059
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Oh, Hollywood was good, but then so was Sean.

1060
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:59,200
While Scott was increasingly erratic in a number of ways, Sean had leaned into analysis that would continue to bring him closer to the infamous bandit.

1061
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:09,200
And so, the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year, was the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year.

1062
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:17,200
And so, the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year, was the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year.

1063
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:26,200
And so, the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year, was the first time that he was able to predict the end of the year.

1064
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Find my iPhone for money.

1065
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:41,200
It's a small GPS tracker that can be inserted in between bills, not exactly anti theft per se, because until someone's left with the cash and toe, there's nothing to track.

1066
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,200
But post theft also, that doesn't really seem like a thing.

1067
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,200
So anyways, it's a tracker.

1068
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,200
That's interesting.

1069
00:51:50,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Anyway, the devices were making their way to financial institutions to were placed in as many of the bank branches in the Seattle metro area as could be managed.

1070
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,200
They were pushing them out everywhere.

1071
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:15,200
At the time, the robbery team had just watched the movie "Heat" and it "put the fear of God in them."

1072
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Apparently didn't stop them.

1073
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,200
No.

1074
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,200
I don't think I've actually watched it.

1075
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,200
I've seen short clips from it, so I gave it a goog.

1076
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:33,200
Suffice to say, in the commission of the Heist depicted, not everyone has a happy ending.

1077
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,200
It's a crime thriller that ends in a hail of bullets.

1078
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:44,200
The law enforcement was having a startling realization of their own as well.

1079
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:51,200
They had come to the conclusion that Hollywood would not go down without a fight.

1080
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Their assessment was correct, as if they'd known his precise thoughts.

1081
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:09,200
Listen, no matter what, let your own hand be the hand of fate, and never let your enemy dictate your fate.

1082
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Scott said when hiking in the Olympics at the top of Mount Washington.

1083
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200
Damn, that's intense.

1084
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,200
Like, all that whole thing was intense.

1085
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Hiking the quote.

1086
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Yeah.

1087
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,200
Some, perhaps, believing they could see the writing on the wall,

1088
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,200
began to distance themselves from the robbery ring.

1089
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,200
And some of them probably weren't even aware

1090
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,200
that they were a robbery ring?

1091
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,200
Yeah.

1092
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Because there were so many, like, little parts that people played.

1093
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Well, no, what I'm saying is, like, friends of their, like, mutual friends of theirs,

1094
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,200
some of them probably didn't even know that that's what these guys were doing.

1095
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,200
A lot of people that were close to them had no idea until after.

1096
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,200
I see.

1097
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,200
I was also thinking of, like, the people, like, the thousand dollars to, like, drop off the car.

1098
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Yeah.

1099
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,200
Like, people who didn't even know that they were, like, helping.

1100
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,200
No.

1101
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,200
Absolutely.

1102
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Yeah.

1103
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,200
Yeah.

1104
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,200
One friend named Albany left for California.

1105
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:17,200
And before he did, he tried to convince Steve to do the same, but to no avail.

1106
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Two weeks before Thanksgiving, the robbery crew became aware of the pronat tags.

1107
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:32,200
However, at a bank on 125th Street, they knew there would be $5 to $7 million for the taking.

1108
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Ooh.

1109
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,200
They did a test robbery to try to figure out how to handle the tracers.

1110
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Because, of course, they were consummate professionals.

1111
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,200
Test robbery.

1112
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Holy shit, dude.

1113
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Yeah.

1114
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:54,200
For the test, Scott went into a branch, but not in his typical Hollywood get up.

1115
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,200
Because it was, like, it's a, right.

1116
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,200
Like, why wouldn't you just totally switch it up?

1117
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,200
Change it.

1118
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,200
Something.

1119
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,200
They found the tags have been put in between stacks of $20 bills.

1120
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:13,200
The team was able to identify and discard the two tracers in relatively short order after this test robbery.

1121
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,200
So they felt pretty confident.

1122
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:21,200
I mean, doesn't everyone feel confident after pulling off a risky or complicated task?

1123
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Yeah.

1124
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Like, just a singular time, though.

1125
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200
I did it one time.

1126
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,200
I mean, I would feel like, yeah, but maybe do a couple more tests.

1127
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Right.

1128
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,200
I don't know.

1129
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Right.

1130
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,200
Right.

1131
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,200
That was kind of my way.

1132
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Yeah.

1133
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,200
Like, oh, we did it once.

1134
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,200
That's probably fine.

1135
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,200
It's probably fine.

1136
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,200
Like, they won't switch it up after us robbing it and finding it.

1137
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,200
And then.

1138
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Or maybe we'll be handed a set of circumstances that won't be as easy as the first time.

1139
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Right.

1140
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Yeah.

1141
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,200
On the one hand, they were confident they knew how to handle the new pro net tags.

1142
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:02,200
But at the same time, Scott's paranoia and anxiety seemed to be reaching a fever pitch.

1143
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,200
He began to form a plan to hit multiple banks in one last hurrah.

1144
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,200
Ugh.

1145
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,200
The plan went like this.

1146
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,200
The first hit would be a small branch to divert the authorities just before hitting a second.

1147
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,200
And then a third.

1148
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,200
I feel like the whole third time's charm thing does not apply to bank robbery.

1149
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:31,200
But according to Scott, it was quote, it was not only doable.

1150
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,200
It was winnable.

1151
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,200
I feel like you're going to tell us the opposite.

1152
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,200
But OK.

1153
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:48,200
I mean, maybe on November 27, 1996 Thanksgiving Eve, FBI agent Sean was convinced that it would be the day that they would catch Hollywood.

1154
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,200
Anyone else he'd shared the theory with was simply waiting to see.

1155
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,200
At the C first bank, Lake City branch, it was less than 20 minutes to closing,

1156
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,200
but seeing as it was the evening before the holiday weekend,

1157
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,200
commenced, there was still a number of customers in the bank.

1158
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:12,200
As the team entered the branch, probably didn't realize that one of the tellers had recognized them,

1159
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,200
and immediately activated a silent alarm.

1160
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,200
The branch manager said that they had been specifically trained for how to handle this robbery team.

1161
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:32,200
Ooh, he used the trap money in his drawer and then also set off a second alarm by opening the vault with the duress code.

1162
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,200
That's so, like, we think the robbers are smart, but like, this is also really smart.

1163
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,200
They've built in things to the system.

1164
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Yeah.

1165
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,200
The call went out over the radio, which as we know, the team was monitoring routinely.

1166
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:56,200
When he received this update, Scott directed the branch employee to help load up money as he's holding a gun on him.

1167
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:08,200
They had been armed before, and I touched on it very briefly that these were in fact armed takeovers of the banks.

1168
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:23,200
That's something that they instituted pretty early on, but there are not at least that I could find as many scenarios where there was like a direct feeling threat like this.

1169
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,200
So, okay.

1170
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,200
So it just feels like it's upping the Annie, you know.

1171
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:36,200
As they made their way out, the police had not yet arrived, but they weren't far behind.

1172
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:43,200
Despite being told to stay down on the floor, one customer had bullied followed after the crew as they had fled.

1173
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,200
Wow.

1174
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:50,200
And was then able to provide a description of the getaway vehicle to authorities.

1175
00:58:50,200 --> 00:59:00,200
It didn't afford law enforcement much of an advantage as the team quickly ditched it and swapped into another vehicle, a white van.

1176
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:13,200
As they fled, the team was disposing of the tracking devices, knowing full well that authorities would be tracking them until they successfully disposed of them all.

1177
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:23,200
Even when one was discovered and discarded on the road, law enforcement knew there was a second device still present and active.

1178
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,200
Because of the second device, eventually law enforcement was able to catch up to them.

1179
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,200
At which point they executed a felony stop.

1180
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:40,200
According to law enforcement, the initial shot was fired, or they assert that he attempted to fire.

1181
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:47,200
They identified Scott as the shooter, or would be shooter, who had now moved to the driver's seat at this point.

1182
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,200
The van quickly came under fire.

1183
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Mark was hit, as was Steve, in the ensuing gunfire as they took off again.

1184
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,200
Mark!

1185
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,200
What?

1186
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,200
I know he came back and this...

1187
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:15,200
Finally, when the vehicle crashed and Scott took off on foot, he fled to the south without his injured friends.

1188
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:23,200
I mean, it is kind of an every man for himself, but hopefully you're able to... I mean, not hopefully...

1189
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,200
But you don't even know if you're thinking of the criminal like getting away.

1190
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:37,200
You're hoping that you get away and hopefully with some of the loot, you know, the Seattle PD officer, Mike Megan,

1191
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:43,200
who was then present decided to return to the van to attend to the assailants, still present in the van,

1192
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:50,200
rather than continuing down the alley after the third in what he called the fatal funnel.

1193
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,200
He likes that alliteration, Megan.

1194
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,200
What's his name, Mark?

1195
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Mike Megan, fatal funnel.

1196
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,200
And it might be pronounced "Megan."

1197
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,200
I never heard anybody say his name in spelled "MAGN."

1198
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,200
Mike Megan, fatal PD.

1199
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,200
I mean, it sounds like a cop on the East Coast.

1200
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,200
He sounds like, you know, he's a real Mick, you know?

1201
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:18,200
Mark Begins was in and out of consciousness following the shootout.

1202
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,200
Meanwhile, Scott remained at large in the area.

1203
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:27,200
Sean was at Harborview Hospital trying to figure out who the third perpetrator was,

1204
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,200
because they literally still did not know who Hollywood was.

1205
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:41,200
After two hours of questioning there, it's revealed that Scott Skirtlock is Hollywood,

1206
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:50,200
which I feel like there's a little bit of an ethical question sometimes about questioning a suspect

1207
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,200
when they've been shot, right?

1208
01:01:54,200 --> 01:02:01,200
And are, you know, in need of medical attention, but I think obviously he's at the hospital

1209
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:07,200
and he's being traded still feels a little potentially dubious to me,

1210
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:14,200
but numerous calls were placed by people living in the area trying to provide leads to the authorities.

1211
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:23,200
Finally, a call came in from someone who believed the third bank robber was in his camper on the back end of his property.

1212
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,200
Officers were dispatched to investigate further.

1213
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,200
They knocked on the camper door, but to no avail.

1214
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:38,200
They released tear gas and a moment later, they heard a single gunshot.

1215
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Following the single gunshot, they returned fire into the camper allegedly firing 76 rounds into the camper.

1216
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,200
Wow.

1217
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,200
He was a little over the top.

1218
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,200
I mean, I understand because they heard a gunshot.

1219
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,200
They don't know if like they're being fired up, but that just seems like a lot.

1220
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,200
Right. But if you heard a gunshot, nobody is seeing it.

1221
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,200
It's the only gunshot.

1222
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:13,200
No one is apparently hit to then fire 76 rounds.

1223
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,200
And I get it. We are all humans.

1224
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:22,200
And there's a certain amount of instinct that no matter what training you have,

1225
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,200
that would be pretty difficult to overcome.

1226
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:35,200
But I would argue just looking at those facts on paper, it doesn't look the best.

1227
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,200
Because he could they even see him. He was like inside.

1228
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,200
What if someone was in there? What if he had like a hostage or something in there?

1229
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Or just like in a question person.

1230
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,200
Yeah.

1231
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,200
Yeah. That's a good point.

1232
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:57,200
Suddenly, an otherwise quiet North Seattle neighborhood found itself day loose with various law enforcement, including the SWAT team.

1233
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:06,200
And the SWAT sister, Suzanne got a call from their aunt Helen, who was absolutely frantic after seeing updates on the news.

1234
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:16,200
The standoff remained underway for hours up until the point that there had been no response from within the camper for two hours.

1235
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,200
Took them two hours.

1236
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,200
Yeah, after that initial shot and they fired 76 rounds in.

1237
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,200
I feel like two hours, not a standoff at that point.

1238
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,200
No, it sure. I mean, they might have thought it was, but it sure wasn't.

1239
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:39,200
It quickly became clear that the shot that officers had heard on the scene was from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

1240
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:46,200
Scott Skirlack was dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 41 years old.

1241
01:04:46,200 --> 01:05:05,200
From the documentary, Mike Megan Seattle PD said, reciting the lines misattributed to Mark Twain, rather than the infamous lawyer Clarence Dero, who actually said it, that he would.

1242
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:15,200
I've never wished death upon a man, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure, which is I get it.

1243
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,200
I get it.

1244
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Get it.

1245
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,200
Same. Same girl. Same.

1246
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,200
But it really annoyed me when I went to look this up.

1247
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,200
And I was like, wait, is that a Mark Twain quote?

1248
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,200
And I don't know why that jumped out at me.

1249
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:33,200
But I was like, I feel like this is one of the ones that I've heard is frequently misquoted.

1250
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,200
And sure as shit, I look it up.

1251
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,200
And there were a ton of articles.

1252
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:47,200
And talking about how it is, they're like, we don't know how this started happening, but it did.

1253
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,200
And now it won't stop.

1254
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,200
Interesting.

1255
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,200
That is so like, I don't know.

1256
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,200
I also don't know that this person deserved that.

1257
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,200
Like he wasn't killing a bunch of people, you know?

1258
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,200
He was laughing banks very well.

1259
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:32,200
And I don't know that in our particular format and keeping sort of brevity in mind that we have sort of the right platform or resources to really illuminate the what I feel is the depth of some probably undiagnosed

1260
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:44,200
mental health issues that Scott and probably other people involved in this were experiencing at the time.

1261
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:52,200
And I think that's not to say that that is an excuse.

1262
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,200
You know, that doesn't make it okay.

1263
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:08,200
But at the same time, whether whether that was an element of it or not, I I struggle with thinking this person deserves to die.

1264
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Yeah.

1265
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,200
And in that way.

1266
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,200
And he didn't just say that he said he got pleasure from reading the obituary.

1267
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,200
Right.

1268
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,200
Yeah.

1269
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,200
I mean, it was quite but I do think that is where it kind of got it.

1270
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:27,200
It's like I'm not gonna get it.

1271
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,200
Yeah, it does feel a little bit.

1272
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:36,200
And that is so totally something that I would put on a fucking coffee mug that I would drink out of every single day.

1273
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,200
And I didn't like it that much in this context.

1274
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,200
Yeah.

1275
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:53,200
And I think that was Sean stated his biggest regret was that he was never able to sit down with Scott based a face.

1276
01:07:53,200 --> 01:08:03,200
He said, if I had been in the vehicle that night in front of that pursuit line, would I have done what Mike did shooting to the back of the van?

1277
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,200
No.

1278
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,200
There's always another day to catch him.

1279
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,200
Seriously, there's always another day.

1280
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,200
Wow.

1281
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,200
And that's coming from an FBI agent.

1282
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,200
Yes.

1283
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:26,200
Who predicted within a set, like three day period when he was going to be striking again and was accurate.

1284
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,200
Yeah.

1285
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,200
The other piece of it is, you have to keep in mind this was a residential neighborhood.

1286
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,200
Holy shit.

1287
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:40,200
This is a residential neighborhood where they shot into the back of the van as they were trying to execute this felony stop.

1288
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:47,200
So then as he is fleeing, he's fleeing into people's backyards.

1289
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,200
Shit.

1290
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:56,200
And this is a man that has said he's not going to be taken alive in so many words.

1291
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,200
So they all knew that.

1292
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:05,200
Like that was something that the cops knew or I don't know that I mean that was not something that he had said to them.

1293
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:12,200
Well, you know, but I think they were getting a pretty clear indication.

1294
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,200
And they were concerned that he would become violent.

1295
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:26,200
And I think knowing what they did know about him, backing him into a corner where they were perhaps not the best prepared.

1296
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:33,200
I hate to say ill prepared, but there were a lot of variables still that they couldn't control.

1297
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:42,200
So you back an injured animal into a corner and there are only so many potential outcomes.

1298
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:53,200
This is the part that makes me like actually want to cry because I can picture his father, a former pastor.

1299
01:09:53,200 --> 01:10:06,200
They show him walking around Scott's property and the tree house and Suzanne talks about their experience as the family.

1300
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:15,200
Suzanne described their family's heartbreak, a sentiment echoed by Scott's childhood friend Steve Harper.

1301
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:29,200
It's really hard to see in this case where there's such a dramatic impact on this person's family and like the loss of the shock.

1302
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:42,200
All of that that they experienced because as much as you know he was described as being kind of a troublemaker and obviously he had been in trouble.

1303
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:49,200
You know, his sister described him as an adrenaline junkie. I just don't think they in a million years.

1304
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:55,200
I don't think they saw any piece of this coming.

1305
01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:07,200
Mustang visited Steve several times while he was in prison until one day he received a letter from her sister saying that she had died by suicide.

1306
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:22,200
Oh wow. My understanding is that there were some things that were shared just I mean this is third party sort of statements that you know it really messed her up.

1307
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:33,200
Really messed her up to see what had happened to these guys and to see like all of the damage that this caused in so many lives.

1308
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:45,200
I mean the people that were present for the robberies, people who perpetrated them their families, this it's got tentacles.

1309
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:50,200
Yeah. And she wasn't even involved at the end there right or was she.

1310
01:11:50,200 --> 01:12:00,200
I mean she had been working with them for some time. I think she I don't know at what point you know her being able to tip them off to things ended.

1311
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,200
I guess you might not know if she wasn't like caught.

1312
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:10,200
My understanding is that I mean she was an informant to them damn near until the end.

1313
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,200
Wow.

1314
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Because I think that's how they learned of the pro net tax.

1315
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,200
Oh, that would make sense.

1316
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,200
Oh man.

1317
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:23,200
As shocked as his family was to learn of his crimes as they grieved his passing.

1318
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:29,200
Many felt it was a sad though not entirely unexpected ending.

1319
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:40,200
Mark Biggins said that in discussions about what they do if they were to get caught Scott said I'm not going to prison.

1320
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,200
I'm going to head for the white light.

1321
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:51,200
Mark did however express regret about the trauma that was experienced by those present for the bang robberies.

1322
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:56,200
Steve Myers and Mark Biggins each faced state and federal charges.

1323
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:05,200
In 1997 both Steve Myers and Mark Biggins were sentenced to 21 years and three months in prison.

1324
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,200
No other accomplices were charged.

1325
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:14,200
Myers was released in 2013 and Biggins in 2015.

1326
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:21,200
Within a year of Scott's death the treehouse had crumbled and tumbled down from the trees.

1327
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,200
Oh, how?

1328
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200
I was just falling to disrepair.

1329
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:33,200
Is my understanding that's only like a couple of years you said within a year within a year of Scott's death.

1330
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,200
It's like what I'm wanting to focus on this because it's less sad.

1331
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,200
I think.

1332
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:44,200
But I'm just like were they just constantly repairing it or what would it have fallen apart with them like living in it?

1333
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,200
I'm just wondering about that.

1334
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:55,200
It's a valid question. I do think it was probably just you know the inattention to it when Mark was released.

1335
01:13:55,200 --> 01:14:01,200
He returned to the property where he scattered some of Scott's ashes.

1336
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:14,200
A lawsuit was filed against Scott's estate by a group of law enforcement officers in 1997 for damages that occurred related to his crimes and capture within the next couple of years.

1337
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:19,200
The family had sold the tree house property to pay off Scott's outstanding debts.

1338
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:24,200
Restitution to the FBI as well as those related to the lawsuit.

1339
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,200
I don't know how to feel about that.

1340
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:33,200
Yeah, it's I want to say it's a tough one, but I don't think it is.

1341
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:48,200
Actually, I think that if it's going to be really difficult for the public to go after law enforcement in any official legal capacity, they shouldn't be able to go after people's private estates.

1342
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,200
Right.

1343
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:57,200
I don't doubt that they deserve to receive recompens, but I don't know that it should come at.

1344
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:03,200
I don't want to say expense because I'm sure they intended to sell that property.

1345
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:14,200
I doubt that any of his family could have dared to be there on the property, but I don't think that it should have to come to that.

1346
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:20,200
Yeah, because his living descendants did nothing wrong.

1347
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:28,200
I kind of think that's a little bit of a fucked loophole in our system because sure is shit.

1348
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:41,200
If you want to try to sue a cop for anything, like the wrongful execution of a loved one or anything else, it ain't easy.

1349
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:47,200
It's a protection that is written into their role.

1350
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:57,200
And in some degree, maybe that's a necessity, but this feels, this doesn't, this feels icky.

1351
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,200
This doesn't feel very right.

1352
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,200
It feels icky again.

1353
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,200
Yeah.

1354
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:16,200
And I think unfortunately, some of this is just going to feel icky because icky things happened and there's no way for a situation like this to be resolved without there being hurt.

1355
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:25,200
Being hurt feelings and just, you know, the general ick, if you will, but I struggle.

1356
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,200
I struggle with that in particular.

1357
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,200
Yeah.

1358
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,200
That doesn't feel right.

1359
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:44,200
Between 1992 and 1996, the Hollywood Bandit and his associates robbed 19 confirmed banks stealing over.

1360
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,200
Are you ready for this?

1361
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,200
I am ready.

1362
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,200
$2.3 million in 50 cents.

1363
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:56,200
My next live literally says, but let's not forget about the change.

1364
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,200
I grew up in.

1365
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:03,200
No, I was like, okay, that'll be something that most everybody's going to have forgotten.

1366
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:09,200
I almost didn't put that in because I was like, people are going to like not remember that I never forget.

1367
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:15,200
I don't know.

1368
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:26,200
It's tough because I don't think anybody wants to sympathize too much with the bad guys, but I think there are some things like his family.

1369
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,200
They're not the bad guys.

1370
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:41,200
I mean, if this was like, you know, generational family conspiracy, maybe I would feel a little bit different, like, situationally, but that is not this.

1371
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,200
Yeah.

1372
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:52,200
And he was, I mean, obviously, if you're saying, if you're living your life in a way where your out is dying by suicide.

1373
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,200
Head for the white light.

1374
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:59,200
Like that, that's just obviously there's some sort of mental crisis going on in there.

1375
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,200
That's how you're living your life and that's like your plan.

1376
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,200
Yeah.

1377
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:14,200
So they actually read a number of excerpts from his, I would say they seem to be pretty extensive, pretty detailed journals.

1378
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:32,200
And there were enough people that knew him at the time that shared whether it's things that he said or things that he did that I feel like inform regarding his mental state at that point in time.

1379
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:38,200
And I do think it would be hard to argue that there's not something there.

1380
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:52,200
It's a tough thing because for me, I sort of want to walk the line of addressing that, but, you know, also steering clear because, you know, I'm not qualified to diagnose that.

1381
01:18:52,200 --> 01:19:07,200
And I have my own, you know, suspicions and, you know, things that I kind of have taken away from the case and what I believe, but I don't want to put things out there that I don't feel like I can state with confidence and backup with.

1382
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:28,200
Right, you know, facts, but yeah, that that's the long and the short of it for me is that even if you know nothing about the case, if you read some of those journal entries or you heard some of the statements that he made to other people at the time, just with no context.

1383
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:39,200
I think probably you would think, yeah, this is this there's a mental health issue here. There's an undiagnosed disorder or disease.

1384
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:54,200
And I think even in the 90s, things had come, you know, a long way, perhaps, but I'm not sure that the resources that he might have needed would have been available.

1385
01:19:54,200 --> 01:20:03,200
I can't imagine. Yeah, not like they are today anyway. For sure. Yeah. And they still suck. Yeah, and they're still not great.

1386
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:15,200
They're still shit to be honest, but, you know, keep working on it. I'm really curious about what we're going to what we're going to get here with the tarot.

1387
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,200
Yeah, me too. Yeah. Should we head to it?

1388
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:43,200
I think so. Oh! What? I'm going to put that one aside. Did you pull a card already? No, I pulled up the deck. And it was the one on the bottom. And when I went to grab all of them, I just scoop them. And that one.

1389
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:50,200
I was like, Oh, and this one. Oh, so almost they've been interesting. Yeah. Okay.

1390
01:20:50,200 --> 01:21:00,200
I'm sure I'm like right from the middle. I like it. And it looks like he's working out. What's the cat? Temperance. Oh, temperance. Okay.

1391
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:09,200
It's a turtle. I like turtles. It's 14. Wait a second. Hold on.

1392
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:25,200
What? Dude. Okay. Hold on. Okay. You guys. I'll be right back. I swear to God. I did not make this connection because I stopped thinking about the number.

1393
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:32,200
Okay. I'll be right back. Okay. Okay. Should we go back? I'm excited. I love when the shit happens. Is there a number on that?

1394
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:56,200
19. Oh, 19. For 19 bank robberies. Oh, okay. I thought, okay. Wow. Interesting. For some reason, whenever I've thought about the number of robberies, like, unless I'm like actually referring to my notes and looking at them, I've been thinking it was 14 robberies.

1395
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:19,200
And then I was like, I have to look because I just read this in the notes. I think it's a 19 because it was so many. And they actually go through in the documentary that I watched, like quite a few of them, like in a good bit of detail for that, you know, format at least.

1396
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:40,200
And police it. It's 19. That is. That is crazy. And the card number is the number that I can't thinking that it was. Yeah. That's funny too. How we, I mean, we show off pretty frequently what we're drinking, but like not always to the extent we showed it off like two times. Yeah.

1397
01:22:40,200 --> 01:23:01,200
And it's like made sure that we were showing it. So that's that's fun. Did I say that I drew this in the reverse? No, did you? I don't think so. I you showed it to me upright. I mean, you can always do that thing where we don't sometimes we just don't remember and then we it like fits both ways, you know.

1398
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:15,200
And then I think that's one thing before I forget the turtles on a log and you put a log on the. That's so true. And it's like green turtles green and you're like money and like make the lights green.

1399
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:26,200
Okay. So I'm skimming through both interpretations because I got so excited about the 19 crimes that was exciting. Yes.

1400
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:38,200
And like, did I pull this in the reverse? Did I say reverse or did I pull it in the upright? I literally cannot remember. And as I'm skimming through the interpretation.

1401
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:51,200
Just real quick, like scanning the bullet points. I'm like, I can make an argument for either I think we might have to just read them both and review the tape.

1402
01:23:51,200 --> 01:24:03,200
I can't agree. Them both, man. Oh my gosh. Okay. I feel like sometimes if my brain doesn't know or if it's feeling flip floppy, even when I even when I grab it, sometimes I'm like, do I do it? Which way? Yeah.

1403
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:09,200
I feel like then it's kind of like, there's nothing wrong with that. We can do whatever the fuck we want.

1404
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:22,200
True. We can. Okay. Keywords are moderation, harmony, acceptance, resolution, cooperation and patience.

1405
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:29,200
This lovely card often features a winged angel male, female or and drudgeness.

1406
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:37,200
In the writer wait Smith, the angel stands in a stream bordered by flowers. Obviously we have a tweedle.

1407
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:54,200
In some decks, the figure pours liquid, the elixir of life from a golden vessel into a silver one in a continuous stream, suggesting the interplay of the material and spiritual world.

1408
01:24:54,200 --> 01:25:07,200
Oh, it's blowing my mind. You was such like a spiritual person, but also so much of like his pursuits were focused on material well.

1409
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:20,200
Yeah. The word vessel relates to the great mother goddesses of antiquity. And the human body is often referred to as the vessel of the soul.

1410
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:28,200
Thus both the angelic figure and the cups are symbolic references to the feminine force.

1411
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:33,200
Upright temperance indicates a time of inner growth and outer harmony.

1412
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:39,200
You're learning to temper your ego needs with the needs of the spirit within.

1413
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:47,200
With patience, you can blend disparate elements of yourself and or your world into a harmonious whole.

1414
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:52,200
In a reading about money, moderation is the key.

1415
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:57,200
Yeah, you said moderation is one of the keywords and I was like, yeah.

1416
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:02,200
Don't expect immediate gains or huge profits at this time.

1417
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:11,200
This card may indicate a period when your finances are balanced or it may recommend getting money matters in order.

1418
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:22,200
Yeah. If the reading is about your job, temperance represents a time of cooperation and relative peace in your workplace.

1419
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:30,200
It can also recommend distributing responsibilities and rewards among co-workers in an equitable way.

1420
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,200
Sometimes this card tells you to balance work and play.

1421
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:39,200
It does seem like they were kind of like a they were like a tea and working together, you know.

1422
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:47,200
In a reading about love, temperance urges you to heal rifts, avoid ego struggles and seek peace in a relationship.

1423
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:54,200
It can also advise you to let a relationship develop at its own pace. Don't try to rush things.

1424
01:26:54,200 --> 01:27:00,200
When temperance is reversed, a situation may be stalled or out of balance.

1425
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:05,200
All you can do is let batters work themselves out which they will in time.

1426
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:15,200
Be patient. Trying to force inharmonious factors together will only cause bad feelings and poor results, like mixing oil and water.

1427
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:20,200
Extreme actions or reactions will likely backfire now.

1428
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:26,200
In a reading about money, intemperate spending may have plunged you into debt.

1429
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:34,200
Conversely, insecurity or lack of self-worth may lead you to hoard money instead of enjoying it or finding ways to make it work for you.

1430
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,200
They enjoyed it, right? Or at least one of them did.

1431
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:45,200
Yeah, but I just feel like they're like the money, the financial habits were very erratic.

1432
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:54,200
If the reading is about work, you may have trouble handling the responsibilities of your job or balancing your professional and personal life.

1433
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,200
You like that was getting there?

1434
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,200
Could be.

1435
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:08,200
Perhaps you're not using your time efficiently. Temperance reversed can also indicate lack of cooperation or discord in your workplace.

1436
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:15,200
In a reading about love, extreme emotions may provoke arguments or a standoff between you and a partner.

1437
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:26,200
Egos get in the way of harmony and happiness. Temperance reversed can mean trying to rush a relationship which causes tension and frustration.

1438
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:31,200
There's an extra excerpt. Patience in all things.

1439
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:41,200
The word temperance derives from the Latin tempera which means to moderate, blend or mix together harmoniously.

1440
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Interestingly, the card was named Time in Early Decks which provides a key to its underlying meaning.

1441
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:57,200
Temperance encourages patience, things happen at their own pace in their own time.

1442
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,200
This is weird.

1443
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,200
This is one of the great lessons of the Zen Masters.

1444
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:07,200
There are times when nothing can be done and nothing needs to be done.

1445
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,200
Or there's always time to catch them another day.

1446
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,200
It's crazy.

1447
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,200
Yeah, it's totally thinking of...

1448
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:23,200
Sean? Sean? He's like, "Yeah, be patient. We can catch him again."

1449
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:37,200
I'm sure there are so many elements of the investigation, the case, all of the people involved that we just can't ever fully know.

1450
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:43,200
But I walked away feeling like, "Wow."

1451
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:51,200
Thinking about how different factors of law enforcement handled this.

1452
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:58,200
It's different when you're in the moment and you're there in person.

1453
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:06,200
Sometimes you've done the legwork but maybe in the moment, whether it's traffic or something else

1454
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:11,200
that prevents you from being right there in the hot seat.

1455
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:22,200
It's hard to know how you're going to react but I did walk away feeling like Sean's approach and some of the tactics that he used

1456
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,200
and some of the things that he profess felt like higher level.

1457
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,200
I'm seeing what you're putting down.

1458
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:39,200
I don't know how else to put it and I'm really struggling to not put it in a crossway.

1459
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:48,200
But the situation may be a little bit different, just depending on who was handling it.

1460
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:55,200
We're only ever going to know this scenario where it was handled the way it was.

1461
01:30:55,200 --> 01:31:11,200
But just too bad because I do think there are things that we can learn from sitting down with someone who has been this wildly successful.

1462
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:30,200
And truly, you can see the progression from just walking up and doing these at the teller stand robberies and then eventually progressing to armed robberies and how they controlled the crowds.

1463
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,200
The vault.

1464
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,200
Getting the trackers.

1465
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:40,200
And I was thinking to this whole time, their whole team had all the patience.

1466
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,200
The patience was the word of the day.

1467
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:51,200
They did make up and test runs and listen to scanners and hired people to buy cars.

1468
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,200
That takes a lot of patience and planning.

1469
01:31:55,200 --> 01:32:06,200
And I think it's sort of like they have the patience and sort of whether it's the ability or you know they lucked out.

1470
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:11,200
However you want to put that for them to be successful at a certain level.

1471
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:24,200
And I think when you look at sort of how it was handled by different bodies of law enforcement, I look at Sean and sort of how he approached it as being like that's someone that is rising.

1472
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:29,200
To meet that person where they're at to try to get ahead of it.

1473
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,200
Yeah.

1474
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:37,200
Yeah, I do think it's unfortunate that they weren't able to sit down with Scott for a lot of reasons.

1475
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,200
Yeah.

1476
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:46,200
But I think there's always something that we can kind of learn from from those interactions in hindsight.

1477
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:47,200
I think so too.

1478
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,200
Yeah.

1479
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:49,200
You're right.

1480
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,200
You're right.

1481
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,200
Also, we've said patience like 87 times so many times.

1482
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,200
And we have a list of shout outs, but patience.

1483
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,200
I'm thinking about you.

1484
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaking of patience, should I read?

1485
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,200
Yeah, little interpretation.

1486
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,200
Give it to me, baby.

1487
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:15,200
This didn't even like cross my mind, but I guess it's why they put the turtle in the card because it says slow and steady progress.

1488
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,200
There is wisdom in staying in my shell, not turtle.

1489
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:25,200
I am safe from the raccoons crying pause and the hawk will think me a rock.

1490
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,200
But soon she was hungry, the sun moved and she was cold.

1491
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,200
She grew lonely.

1492
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:33,200
So she emerged.

1493
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,200
She filled up on Mayflies and cool water.

1494
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,200
She found other turtles.

1495
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,200
She basked.

1496
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,200
There is wisdom in being open to the world, thought turtle.

1497
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:52,200
A shadow of black feathers blocked the sun in the instant before the crow's beak struck in that moment of warning.

1498
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,200
Turtle recanted her newfound philosophy.

1499
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:01,200
She retracted into her shell and the beak glanced off her care pace.

1500
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,200
Ah, realized turtle slightly rattled.

1501
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:09,200
It is best to be sometimes in my shell and sometimes out.

1502
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,200
There is wisdom in that.

1503
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:12,200
Oh my gosh.

1504
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,200
Okay.

1505
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,200
That's crazy.

1506
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,200
Yeah.

1507
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,200
Okay.

1508
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,200
So I don't know.

1509
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,200
There are so many aspects of this.

1510
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:37,200
Like if you build a tree house in an isolated part of the woods, I feel like it's so emblematic of like so much of his personality and experience.

1511
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,200
Yeah.

1512
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:39,200
Like hiding in this turtle shell.

1513
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,200
A little bit.

1514
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,200
Yeah.

1515
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:56,200
And especially once he really started to, you know, as they kind of advanced in this whole scheme and he really started to become a little bit paranoid and like they withdrew and they closed off the property more.

1516
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,200
Oh, didn't they like stop for a year, you said?

1517
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:00,200
They did.

1518
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,200
Yeah, they did at one point.

1519
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,200
Yeah.

1520
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:19,200
And then they just like, I don't know if they were ever like almost, yeah, they were like almost caught.

1521
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,200
Oh, yeah.

1522
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,200
I mean, there were definitely some close calls for sure.

1523
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,200
Like the first.

1524
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:32,200
And then until, you know, the last definitely makes me think of that final.

1525
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:33,200
Yeah.

1526
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:34,200
Wow.

1527
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,200
Like they should have just stayed in their shell.

1528
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:37,200
Yeah.

1529
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,200
Stay hidden while the hiding is good.

1530
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,200
Okay.

1531
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,200
I want to know what the other card is.

1532
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,200
Um, it's the strength card.

1533
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,200
Oh.

1534
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,200
And it's a fish.

1535
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,200
I think it's a sock.

1536
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,200
I say I'm in.

1537
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,200
I mean, I think I'm in a sock.

1538
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,200
I'm in a sock.

1539
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,200
Okay.

1540
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:57,200
Okay.

1541
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,200
It's interesting.

1542
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,200
We got two major arcana cards.

1543
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,200
Yeah.

1544
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:01,200
It's my card.

1545
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,200
Wow.

1546
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,200
I mean, I feel like just strength off the bat.

1547
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:05,200
Like that.

1548
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,200
Just.

1549
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,200
It fits as well.

1550
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:08,200
Okay.

1551
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,200
So just write off the bat from the extra excerpt.

1552
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,200
This.

1553
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:16,200
I feel like it relates to something that I talked about really briefly.

1554
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,200
Because I didn't want to overplay it.

1555
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,200
Because I don't want people.

1556
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,200
I don't want people to get it.

1557
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,200
But I want people to be aware of what I'm going to do.

1558
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1559
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:27,200
And I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1560
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,200
And I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1561
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1562
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1563
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:32,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1564
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1565
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1566
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1567
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:36,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1568
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:37,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1569
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1570
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1571
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1572
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1573
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:53,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1574
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1575
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:55,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1576
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:56,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1577
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1578
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:58,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1579
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1580
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:00,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1581
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1582
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:02,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1583
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:03,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1584
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:04,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1585
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1586
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1587
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1588
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1589
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1590
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1591
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:20,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1592
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:21,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1593
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1594
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:23,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1595
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1596
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1597
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1598
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:27,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1599
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1600
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1601
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:39,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1602
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1603
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:41,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1604
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1605
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:43,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1606
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:44,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1607
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1608
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1609
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1610
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:48,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1611
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:49,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1612
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1613
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1614
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1615
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1616
01:37:53,200 --> 01:38:03,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1617
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:11,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1618
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1619
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1620
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:14,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1621
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1622
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1623
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1624
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1625
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1626
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:20,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1627
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1628
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1629
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1630
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1631
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1632
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1633
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1634
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1635
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1636
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1637
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:32,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1638
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1639
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1640
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1641
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1642
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1643
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1644
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1645
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1646
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1647
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:54,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1648
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1649
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1650
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1651
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1652
01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1653
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:00,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1654
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1655
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:02,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1656
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:03,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1657
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1658
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:05,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1659
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1660
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1661
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1662
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1663
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1664
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1665
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1666
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1667
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:23,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1668
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:24,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1669
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1670
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1671
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1672
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:28,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1673
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1674
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:39,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1675
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:40,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1676
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1677
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:42,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1678
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1679
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:44,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1680
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:45,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1681
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1682
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1683
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:48,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1684
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:49,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1685
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:50,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1686
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1687
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1688
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1689
01:39:53,200 --> 01:40:05,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1690
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1691
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1692
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:08,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1693
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1694
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:10,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1695
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:11,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1696
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:12,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1697
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1698
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1699
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1700
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1701
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1702
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1703
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1704
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1705
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1706
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1707
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1708
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:34,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1709
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:35,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1710
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:36,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1711
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1712
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:38,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1713
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:39,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1714
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:40,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1715
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1716
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1717
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1718
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:44,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1719
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:56,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1720
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:57,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1721
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1722
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1723
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1724
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1725
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:02,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1726
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:03,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1727
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1728
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:05,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1729
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:06,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1730
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1731
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1732
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1733
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1734
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:20,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1735
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:21,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1736
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1737
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:23,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1738
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1739
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1740
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1741
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1742
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1743
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1744
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1745
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1746
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:32,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1747
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:33,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1748
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1749
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:47,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1750
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:48,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1751
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1752
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1753
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1754
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1755
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1756
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:54,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1757
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1758
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:56,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1759
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1760
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1761
01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1762
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1763
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:01,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1764
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:11,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1765
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1766
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:13,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1767
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:14,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1768
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1769
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1770
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1771
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1772
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1773
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:20,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1774
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:21,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1775
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1776
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:23,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1777
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:24,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1778
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1779
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:38,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1780
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:39,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1781
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1782
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1783
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1784
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:43,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1785
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:44,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1786
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:45,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1787
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1788
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:47,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1789
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:48,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1790
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:49,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1791
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:50,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1792
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1793
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1794
01:42:52,200 --> 01:43:02,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1795
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1796
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1797
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:07,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1798
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:08,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1799
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1800
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:11,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1801
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1802
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1803
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1804
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:15,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1805
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:16,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1806
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:17,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1807
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1808
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:19,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1809
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1810
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1811
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1812
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1813
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:27,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1814
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:28,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1815
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:29,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1816
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:30,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1817
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:31,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1818
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1819
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:33,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1820
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1821
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1822
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:36,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1823
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1824
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:52,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1825
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:55,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1826
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.

1827
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:58,200
I want people to know what I'm going to do.