Jan. 1, 2026

The Chateau at The Oregon Caves: Chilling History & Hauntings

The Chateau at The Oregon Caves: Chilling History & Hauntings

The Chateau still needs your help to preserve this incredible site and protect the bats - https://friendsocac.org/support/ This New Year's Day, we're venturing back into the mysterious Oregon Caves National Monument, a spelunking paradise in...

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The Chateau still needs your help to preserve this incredible site and protect the bats - DONATE to this charming and eerie National Historic Landmark here!

This New Year's Day, we're venturing back into the mysterious Oregon Caves National Monument, a spelunking paradise in Southern Oregon. Discovered in 1874 by a hunter named Elijah and his brave canine companion, Bruce. The cave's first recorded encounter is a gripping tale of survival, complete with a bear encounter and a miraculous escape. With its stunning Marble Halls formed from metamorphosed limestone, this natural wonder's intrigue doesn't stop underground. The Chateau, an adjacent lodge, is undergoing renovations to restore its former glory.

Speaking of eerie, the Chateau is known for its ghostly resident, Elizabeth. Heartbroken and tragic, Elizabeth haunts the lodge after a honeymoon gone wrong. Guests have reported hearing footsteps, crying, and witnessing her apparition, particularly in room 310. We also touch on a recorded Bigfoot sighting in the area, adding another layer of mystery to this already fascinating location. Whether you're a history buff, a paranormal enthusiast, or just love a good adventure, this episode has something for everyone.

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So since there's like a stream running through, that's going

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to be carrying some energy, right, and not to mention

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like all the marble and like limestone and crystals and

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stuff in the cave like that shit holds onto energy too.

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It's true, speaking of holding onto energy, it's temper some

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spooky stuff.

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Oh, so this is where we learn that everything is

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haunted forever.

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Everything is haunted forever. And Hi Caitlin, Hi Cassie. Hi

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creepy people, helly if you're new to a creepy corner

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of the world. This is PNW Haunts and Homicides where

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we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things

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creepy spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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And also bats and also bats. We also do a

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terror reading in every episode for a little bit of

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deeper insight into our topic. Is our topic bats, I

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was just gonna say. And sometimes also bats. We just

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really like bats. Maybe we're feeling it, Okay, my episode

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we have bats.

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It's kind of funny because on my from my angle

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of you, it's just a little bat wings poken up

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over your head. Oh really, it looks like you should

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I take a picture of bat girl? Yeah? Is it Halloween.

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It feels like Halloween. I like got really excited, got

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vibe in the mood. But like I'm also kind of

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feeling the summer vibe lately with my episodes. You know,

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last time we went hiking and the crew Redwood Forest

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that we did a real PNW summer nature adventure naked

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bike rides. Not this summer. I was gonna say, actually,

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I'm like really sad news about that it got canceled.

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It's really sad. I don't know why, though, Oh well

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I'll tell you I have news tell them yea, so

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tho it's not it. Well, some people might have bat

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wings flopping around while they're naked. I don't know that's fair.

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The Portland World Naked Bike Ride has been canceled this

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year due to lack of volunteers because it's it's huge,

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like they have a ton of people. It's like the

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only time you can be naked in public and people

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are into it, so they need like a lot of

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volunteers to you know, obviously I heard they didn't have enough.

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So this is a call to action. Get your all's

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creepy naked butts out next year and volunteer for the

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Naked bike ride, so we can go.

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As volunteers who will be fully close.

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Do you think we should volunteer? I wonder if the

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volunteers are they naked too. I mean, you don't have

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to be naked. It's like, yeah, but I wonder, M Well,

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everyone volunteer because I would like to see this happen again. Okay, Well,

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unfortunately this episode is not all about the naked bike ride.

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I was wondering. I know, I just saw the news

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and I had to bring it up. Yeah, it's newsworthy.

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It is.

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As hard as I try to, I couldn't find any

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creepy stories involving a traveling massive nudity. It's just like

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there wasn't anything there, Okay, because like no one, there's

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no like creepy naked dude stories.

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I was like, huh interesting, Okay, I see where you're going.

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I see, I see now, Okay, I didn't actually look

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for those. Hopefully no one is creepy at the naked mic, right,

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I think everyone is.

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Yeah, yeah, I My head immediately went to naked.

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Ghost, scared sheetless.

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Yeah, the naked ghost scared sheetless.

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That was what Beetle Juice is going to be called.

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This was not planned, y'all. There you go. I'm wearing

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never Trust the Living shirt, which is from Beetle Juice. Yeah,

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but it had bats and like lanterns on it. It's perfect.

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So it reminded me of what we're going to talk

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about today, which I almost gave away, which I didn't

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mean to. Ooh, I guess lanterns is another clue. Okay,

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let's move on before you guess. Okay, so we did

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the nature thing with the redwoods, and now we need

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some adventure in our summer. Right, Yes, did I say

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naked or nature? You said nature? Okay? I think I

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like a replay in my head of me saying okay,

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so we did the naked thing in the redwoods, but

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I think I said nature.

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This is that moment when I want to go roll

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that beautiful bean footage.

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Well, if I said naked, it'll be funny. I'm not

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redoing it. It's fun for everyone. I think, Well, we're

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gonna have some more fun. So let's go potholding, you guys. Potholing? Yeah, potholing.

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You don't know what that is? My throat did that weird?

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And I'm like.

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It came from the pothole?

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Oh?

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Oops? Okay, that's what they call it in the UK

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and Ireland. Okay, here we call it splunking.

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Oh my god, like as it.

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Like what like the the cave thing. I can't make

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words now, yeah, cave caveploring. I can't exploring.

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It's like heights but also confined spaces.

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And dark have to be hyped and it's just exploring

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a cave. Okay. Obviously people do extreme stuff like you know,

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like the diving down into the cave and crazy squeezing

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and shit. But you don't have to do that, but

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wre caves don't. But you can but don't. So two

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hundred and ninety three miles south of Portland, Oregon, almost

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to the border of California. Ooh hey girl, longtime no party. Yeah,

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on Caves Highway and the town of Cave Function.

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Okay, well that feels a little heavy handed if I'm

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being on.

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Where are we going? Is the Oregon Caves National Monument.

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It's actually just one cave, but it's like but a

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bunch of tunnels down there, but they call it caves. Okay.

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There are one hundred and thirty three national monuments in

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the US. I had to look it up because I

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was like, oh, like, how special is this national monument thing?

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And it turns out it's pretty special. Yeah. Yeah, so

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it's a pretty good thing preserves the cave. The cave's

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first recorded discovery was in eighteen seventy four by a

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man and his dog, Elijah and Bruce, which ones which.

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That's what I was just thinking.

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Bruce is a dog.

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Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

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Isn't Elijah a cute name for dog? Though it would be?

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I know, I kind of want a dog now, yeah,

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Oh I don't. I mean I do.

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I actually tried to convince Chris to pull over on

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the side of the road the other day because we saw.

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A bunny, wild bunny.

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I don't know if it's wild, but it was. It

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wasn't wearing a collar.

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Let's put it that way. Okay. Sticky up ears are floppies,

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a little sticky up Oh that's a wild bunny.

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Well okay, I mean not necessarily. Lots of bunnies have

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sticky up ears.

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Okay.

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It's my fault that we had the hole of loops

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growing up. Listen, I'm still mad because he said we

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would go get the bunny today and we didn't.

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You can't bunny wants to be wild.

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Okay, well, I've already tried to convince him to bring

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home a coyote. I thought that the bunny was a

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pretty good compromise.

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You should get a new cat and it'll be like

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a raccoon, and then everyone in our household die. So

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this is kind of a crazy story, all right, I

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will link it. Someone wrote out like a little story

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about what happened to him, So it's pretty cool but interesting.

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I'll kind of summarize it for you, all right. So

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Brucey technically was the one who found the cave. They

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were hunting in the Siscu Mountains. They had a camp

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with a bunch of other people who are also hunting,

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but they went off on their own and Bruce goes

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sniffing off doing dog things, you know how they do.

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Oh right, I forgot Bruce is Bruce is the dog? Yeah,

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I'm like Bruce, he's a man. Elijah's the maya, Okay.

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And Elijah realizes that the dog isn't close by, but

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he can hear him barking, so he goes off to

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try to find him so they can head back. And

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so here's him barking in the distance. He goes toward

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the sound, and soon he comes upon a street and

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it's flowing from a dark opening in the rocks. And

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he here's the dog barking again. Oh, and it sounds

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like it's from deep inside where the stream is coming

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from out of these rocks. Oh boy, But he also

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this is crazy, but he also hears something else inside.

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It's a freaking bear. He hears a bear growling inside

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in his dog barking. And then I think at one

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point the dog like whimper, like wines.

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Oh no, Bruce, yes, so obviously it's not going great

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for Bruce.

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Well, before that, let me just say we officially have

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a bear theme. We really do. Like what's going on.

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It's so weird.

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Well, I mean, I think we've established women are team Bear,

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that's right, And we talked about bear in the last episode.

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Even Oh my gosh, it's so funny dean Bear. Oh,

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this gets even weirder. But so this saint of a man.

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Of course he has to go after his dog. Saint

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of a man. I think that's the bare minimum. But

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how the bare minimum get it? But he's crawling into

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this dark hole in rocks where there's a stream. So

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it's like it's not just of course he goes after

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his dog, but like that's risky for your own life, right, Yeah,

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So he goes into this bear apartment and he proceeds

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to get lost and also runs out of matches, which

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were the only light he had.

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Okay, it's like nightmares literal.

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Yeah, but like, why are we not traveling? Okay, I

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guess it's probably daylight seventy four?

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Oh shit. Yeah yeah, and he wasn't expecting to go

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into a cave. He's out hunting his campus somewhere nearby,

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but the unexpected had damn it, Bruce, Just look what

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you've done. Bruce is in the bear apartment just, which is.

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Kind of like my apartment. When you come into any

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room unexpectedly, you could be mulled.

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I didn't see you coming, and yeah earlier I shared earlier.

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You were welcome though, Yeah, but I didn't get screamed up.

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I did scream like at her, but no, like it

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doesn't sound like a bear. No, sounded like a twinkie

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if a twinkie could scream.

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Okay, so where was I? He ran on matches, so

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he used to start crawling on the ground because it's

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so treacherous in there that he can't like just blindly

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walk right, You're gonna trick, You're gonna step in a hole,

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You're gonna probably maybe fall even off a cliff. You

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don't know what's in there. I really hate that. Yeah.

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So he had a crawl in his hands and knees

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and obviously freaking like what hurt? And that sucks? Yeah,

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that sucks a lot. But by some sort of cave

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angel miracle, he found the stream again, which he knew

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let out of the cave, so he knew if you

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just followed that stream, he would be okay. And then

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I'm like, wait, is a cave angel a bat? Yeah?

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I think? Yeah, I think so. I think the bats

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saved him. He did. I had a visual of like

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the bats like picking him up and like flying him

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out of the door. The cas feel a lot about

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it would be like the balloon house and up, let's

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redo up with that and make it like a spooky house.

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I kind of like it. He spent three hours lost

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in the cave great, which like it doesn't seem like

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that long, which he did. Get pretty lucky and eternity. Yes, yeah,

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if you're in there lost and you don't know where

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you're at. That's a really long time.

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Three hours, I would have several strokes.

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Yeah, but it wasn't like days, you know, Like he

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didn't get lost down there for for that long and

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the bear didn't find him, so that was also okay.

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So yeah, I mean great, great so far.

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Well, the cave angels also looked out for our boy

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Bruce too. Thank god. He came limping out of the

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cave after his daddy. He did have some cuts, but

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he he was okay. They were able to heal him

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up back at camp. Oh so, back at camp, he

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told them the story and no one really believed him. Okay,

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so he took one of them back. The next day,

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they find the cave again and they see the bear

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shut them outside the Yeah, so the friend is like, oh, like, okay,

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you weren't lying.

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They thought he was lying about there being a bear.

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I mean, it's a crazy story. I okay, went and

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found a cave and there was a bear. I don't know.

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I mean, bears love caves. From what I understand, this.

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Guy lied a lot. I don't know Elijah's life, but.

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They didn't really say in like, there were a lot

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more bears back then.

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I don't know, you know, maybe it was just a

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good story to say that they don't believe them. That okay,

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that makes sense. Well either way, they shoot the bear,

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and now we're back to where other theme of bear hunting. Okay, right,

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what I don't know? I don't know.

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Okay, well what caliber did they decide to shoot the bear?

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I don't have any fucking clues?

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Oh okay, Well when I find out what the bear

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does next, that will tell me.

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Well, they killed the bear. Okay, it's dead. It's a

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dead bear, all right.

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Yeah, so they had like a shotgun?

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Yeah, probably, I mean we thought they're hunting like big animals.

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I think so. I think it was yeah, all right, yeah,

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so they were solid. Everyone was fine after that. And

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then the mountain where Elijah found this cave is now

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called Mount Elijah. I wish they named mountains after me.

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You gotta find caves in them in eighteen ninety four

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or whenever the fuck I said. This is from NPS,

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to which I think is National Park Service. That sounds correct.

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I also meant to say dot gov, NPS, dot gov.

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Oh yes, what did you say the first time?

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Oh?

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NPS? Dot gov? All right? Quote eons of acidic water

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seeping into marble rock created and decorated. The wondrous Marble

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Halls of Oregon is a nickname for the cave because

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the cave was formed in the limestone that has turned

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into marble due to a process called metamorphism.

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Isn't that cool?

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I had no idea. I love that. I was just like,

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I don't know marble's marble. Yeah I didn't. It used

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to be limestone. Okay, marble facts. I knew you would

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like it. I picked it for you too. We love

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marble so much here more like kind of obsessed. You

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didn't even know it with limestone. Now call yourself a

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marble fan. Yeah, I feel like kind of a poser

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you are.

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That's like when somebody's like, oh you like that band

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and three songs?

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Right?

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Wow? Wow.

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The cave reaches about fifteen thousand feet underground. That's too many.

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It's full of stal like tights and stalag mites. You

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remember those from school? So pretty?

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You know, those drippy down e in the caves.

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There's one I want.

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I want to like Titus like mite.

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Yeah, one gross from the ceiling, one gross from the floor.

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Don't ask, I'm just.

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Saying like I want one like right here.

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Yeah, like if we could just have one of like Marble.

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I mean Marble's like all well and good and everything,

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but I want like the drippy thing.

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Yeah, you know, so mysterious. Also, you know it's down

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in caves. Who knows what kind of creepy crawley I

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was gonna.

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Say something gross And and fats, there's so many bats

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in caves.

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Bets are so cute.

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But I would probably fully piss my pants if I

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came into contact with the bat sky puppies. They're so cute,

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but like if they're flying like into you and you're like,

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a are you a meito? I mean, I'm very attractive.

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Apparently my blood is delicious. Just call me Bella.

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Well, it's a bad apartment too. It's not just a

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bare apartment. Actually, it's probably more like a bat dorm.

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Oh I like that bat frat, Yeah, frat.

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I like it.

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But there's some important bat information on the website NPS

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dot org dot gov because so it says NPS dot

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gov slash orca. I think that's where I'm getting. No,

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that would fuck me up. It would fuck me up

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so hard. I'm gonna quote again from NPS dot gov.

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Help save our bets, Help.

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Save our bets, Save the bat.

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North America's bats are under attack from white nose syndrome.

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Let's sell bat disease. Oh and to prevent the spread,

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please do not bring clothes, even washed clothes, shoes, or

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equipment used in any any used in any other cave, mine,

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or any other bat habitat. So just like if you're

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going from cave to caves blunking around, just have different clothes.

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Don't even if they're washed.

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Yeah, even if they're washed, I guess they still can

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have stuff on them. WHOA, Yeah, I don't know. It's

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really sad. I don't want the baths today. We don't

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like what are we going to do, like, I don't know,

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be eaten the pollinators. There are a few tours you

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can take in the cave. There's Discovery Cave Tour, Twist

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Stoop and discover the Dark Depths with a guide, so

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you'll have a guide. I was like dark Depth. I

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thought you were going to just say guy for a second,

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and I was like with a guy his name, Like

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why the emphasis just one guy? One guy? I have

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a couple of different tour guides just one guy. It

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is actually like a ranger tour guide too, so it's

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not it's not just like a random kid like taking

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you through a dangerous cave. It's like an actual ranger.

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Okay, okay, yeah, that's feel safer. That's the tour I

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want to take.

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Well, this next one is the tour I want to

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take candlelight cave tour. And they've done a haunted one too.

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It was like in twenty fifteen that I found, so

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I don't know if they if they still do anything

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like that, but they do a candlelight cave candle light.

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I'm sorry, I want to. I want to sell dow

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the how you go through with your candle I got I.

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Do, but I trip over my own feet.

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Like, maybe you're not the person who would go on

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the candle light. She's like, you're not invited, you dumb bitch.

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Maybe if you trip on things, you shouldn't walk around

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in a dark cave with a candle with fire.

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Wow, so able ast you guys.

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Also, if you're going with kids and stuff, they do

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have a kids and family tour. Oh it's easier.

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I assume I can't do that one either, But they

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also if.

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You really like adventure. You can go on the off

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Trail caving tour, squeeze through tight spaces, crawl on your belly,

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and explore the deepest depths. Echo. I would not go

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on that. I'm not that adventurous to I don't want

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to squeeze. Yeah, I don't know squeezing. I'm okay with

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spiders and creepy crawleys, now, I don't want to know

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who's past them or touch the rush up. Yeah, I'm

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good with them. No.

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And then I've also heard I'm gonna have to look

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up the name and information and everything about the spelunking case.

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But there was somebody who really sadly died in a cave.

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That happens a lot. Yeah, it's awful and scary and

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it's not good. There is also lodging at the Oregon

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Caves National Monument called the Chateau Ooh. While the Caves

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are still open, the Chateau has been closed since twenty

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eighteen for reconstructions and renovations. They ran into some pretty

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big structural issues when they started renovating, and much more

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than they anticipated needed to be done, meaning a much

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much much larger budget. Oh that is it's not there.

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Also, interest rates are really high for what for everything? Oh,

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interest rates are high if you need to borrow money,

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Oh for bar?

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Yeah yeah, for like you're like, for what room. I

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don't buy a hotel. I don't feel like, are they

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charging into on our hotel? Roots? Yeah, Like they had

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a I think like tax money, you know, for rebuilding

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like a historic place. Oh sure, I'm pretty sure they

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had like a bludget for that, but it just it

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ended up funding. Yeah, it ended up just not being

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enough for what needs to be done boo. So they

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had to stop construction last March. And I think they

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were planning when they closed in twenty eighteen, they were

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planning to reopen I think in twenty twenty three or

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twenty I can't remember one of those, but they were

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planning to reopen pretty soon. Yeah, but they just ran

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out of funds last year. Oh nice. So they are

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currently raising funds to finish the project so they can

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reopen the beloved beloved belove that's beloved and historic work. Oh.

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I like that. I didn't mean to do that.

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Belove it beloved, this beloved lodge. My brain really loves that.

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Yeah, you know, like, why use many words when we've

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established I am Kevin.

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In the best way possible.

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Just wait, I will get you with the chili one day.

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Oh I love a good chili on your floor.

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That's what I thought. She's like on your wedding dress.

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So there is a website. It's like Friends of the

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Chateau or Friends of the organ Case or something. I'll

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link it. But they're the ones who are like helping

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raise the funds, doing all the things. The website's awesome.

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They have a place to donate just money. They have

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a place where you can like volunteer. You can volunteer,

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you can like sponsor one of their chairs. They have

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like really historic old furniture and they've lost a bunch

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of them in a flood. No. Yeah, so they're like

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reconstructing them, making like finding other ones, rebuilding some. But

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you can sponsor one and then you will get like

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your plaque on it.

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That's so cool.

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They have a bunch of different ways that you can support. Obviously,

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we've donated because we have to. We're talking about it.

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We have to link all the things. So please donate

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if you want, and or if you can, if you want,

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if you can, if you can, and if you won't,

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so we can all go and stay at this picturesque

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six story lodge with twenty three rooms, a fine dining

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with views over a wooded canyon, and a nineteen thirties

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era coffee shop. Like I need that coffee shop back.

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I need it.

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I've never been there, but I like really need to go.

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But I need it. And I think it was like

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nineteen thirties because it was built in the thirties. You know,

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it's not like they made it themed the thirties, get

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their friends the thirties. Yeah, let's just win it existed.

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And if you know, if they don't rebuild this stuff,

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it's just going to turn into a creepy, dilapidated old building.

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And as much as I really love those, I really do,

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but I hate to see this place end up that way.

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Yeah, something historic that easily could be saved.

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Yeah, I don't know about easily. It's a lot of money,

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you guys. It easily could be saved. Okay, Yeah, I hope.

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I hope. So, like I'm hoping even if they raise

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the money that like they can fix the things that

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are wrong in there, because they Yeah, and I think

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they need to like update it for like earthquakes and

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stuff too, which that's really important. Oh seismic, Yeah, yeah,

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seismic upgrades.

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Are no joke.

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Yeah yeah.

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Well, and the tough thing is, I will say this,

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even in buildings where you don't have to upgrade the

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building itself for seismic, the city of Portland and the

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state of Oregon in general is very strict and.

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They had new they added new laws. That's one of

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the things they said.

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Aside from the eventual finished product, during construction, if part

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of the building is habitated, it needs to be up

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to the new standards in a lot of situations, so

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that is really expensive for you know, temporary structures, temporary

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features of the building that you know they're not quite

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done with renovations. I've seen how this can impact other projects.

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That's it's tough because you want buildings to be safe.

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Oh yeah, yeah. I can't just have this building, especially

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where it that we'll get into like where how it's situated.

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But and it's like above a cave, so yeah, you

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kind of need the thing to be a little sturdy,

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you know. I'd like it to be. Yeah, I would too,

463
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because I like really need I want to go to there,

464
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:20.640
I want to go there. I actually try. Okay, so

465
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.720
my mom had been there before and I asked her

466
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.799
for pictures but she can't couldn't find them. And bringing

467
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:31.119
up my mom again. It's another theme name. So in

468
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.200
twenty twenty I was, you know, we were looking for

469
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.319
places to go. I think it was maybe it was

470
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:39.839
twenty twenty one. Yeah, it was after like the big shutdown.

471
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:41.720
It was when things were starting to open back up,

472
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:43.359
and I just wanted to go somewhere where it like

473
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.640
wasn't too crowded, it was outdoors. Yeah, and so I

474
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.640
was like, oh, I want to go to the Caves.

475
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.559
I've never been, Like look it up and I'm like.

476
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:53.759
Whoa.

477
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.319
It was yeah yeah, and I was like, oh, it's

478
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.400
going to reopen. We're getting there, getting there, and then

479
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.759
I go look at it. Look it up, and I'm like, ah,

480
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.960
ship steem it. They're still not a bit sad. So anyway,

481
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:15.240
everyone donate, huh. The chateau was built in nineteen thirty four.

482
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.599
It is adjacent to the entrance of the Oregon Caves

483
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:24.359
National Monument, and it is a National Historic Landmark and

484
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:29.039
one of the National Park's Great Lodges. Oh, which, like

485
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.720
I didn't know that was a thing. That's kind of cool. Apparently,

486
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.720
like at the National Park places, they have like lodges

487
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.599
and they're called like the Great National Parks Great lodges. Yeah. Yeah,

488
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:46.400
So this building is built like off of a cliff.

489
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.839
So the front is three stories and then the backside

490
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.200
of the building is six stories. Oh boy. Or floors.

491
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.559
I don't know. Stories and floors are they the same

492
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.319
generally speaking? Yeah, floors, I don't know. Yeah. It was

493
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.440
built over the stream and it actually flows through the building.

494
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.519
It flows through the dining room.

495
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:14.079
That sounds so cool, But also I'm not so sure

496
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.119
that that's for me.

497
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.160
Why it's very the dining room is like super fancy.

498
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.119
It's it's not like it would be like a like

499
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.960
a bunch of water rushing through like a fancy place.

500
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.400
No, I'm sure, I'm sure, but I'm like, it's a

501
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:33.759
little intimidating.

502
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.400
It's a little bit like it's a stream. I think.

503
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.200
I don't think it's like whitewater rapids. Well, surely right now.

504
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.920
It's a stream, I know, but are waterways like they

505
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:47.119
changed over?

506
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.119
I don't know. This building was freaks me out a

507
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.440
little bit. It's nineteen thirty four and I don't think

508
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.039
they've had issues with it or I didn't read any though.

509
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.240
It sounds so cool, but I feel like it would

510
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.599
put me on edge. I don't know. I think it's

511
00:32:59.599 --> 00:32:59.960
so cool.

512
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.039
It sounds so cool, like I want to go to there,

513
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.240
but I feel like there be a little part of

514
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.400
my lizard brain that would be a little bit scared.

515
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:11.200
And that's like the same stream that saved Elijah. So

516
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.480
like it's a good stream, you know, is probably cool.

517
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.279
It's like it's going to be chill, yeah, all right,

518
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.519
all right, So since there's like a stream running through,

519
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:26.200
that's going to be carrying some energy, right, and not

520
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.359
to mention like all the marble and like limestone and

521
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.839
crystals and stuff in the cave, like that shit holds

522
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.839
onto energy too.

523
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.799
It's true. Speaking of holding onto energy, it's time for

524
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:44.440
some spooky stuff. Oh so this is.

525
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:48.319
Where we learn that everything is haunted forever.

526
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:57.759
Everything is haunted forever. And okay, so isn't old wood

527
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:02.960
building the floors. Cree piping is loud, the wind kind

528
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.839
of whistles through the trees, and you know how it is,

529
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.920
it probably gets through the windows and the crevices of

530
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.880
the racks, making a bunch of noise everywhere, so noise safe.

531
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.519
So there's that kind of stuff going on. The staircases

532
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.559
and hallways are apparently narrow and dimly lit. It kind

533
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:26.480
of like kind of like the man Resa it's called

534
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.119
man Resa Castle that went to. Like the hallways and

535
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:35.760
stairways were like narrow, dimly lit, very creepy, yeah, spooky vibes.

536
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.559
And I read in one person's blog that there was

537
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:44.599
a random window to nowhere in the hallway ceiling. I'm

538
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.800
sorry what, Yeah, And I think it was like that

539
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.039
it must have been the top floor because it said

540
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.440
no light came from it, and it looked like it

541
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.400
was the attic, So like there was like a window

542
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:01.159
to the attic in the hallway ceiling. I don't know, yeah,

543
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.360
I also don't know, like they need more details. Is

544
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.440
this like maybe they were fixing something and so they

545
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.679
cut a hole out and it's like they put some

546
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.920
plexiglass over it that I don't know what.

547
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:21.199
That sounds like an unintentional skylight like right to the attic.

548
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.440
I don't I don't know, I don't know why. I

549
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.199
don't even know if this is true. It's just something

550
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.320
I read in someone's blog.

551
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.320
Well, I guess we have to go.

552
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.960
We have to go, we have to go. But what

553
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.760
if they fixed it? I want creepy windows into the attic?

554
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:46.760
God forbid. They do have one ghost, just like a

555
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:54.280
singular ghost, just one ghost, one ghost that is talked

556
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.719
about anyway. There might be other things around, but they're

557
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.599
not like really mentioned. I don't think, all right, And

558
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.159
like I said, every haunted place has to have this

559
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:13.039
one ghost or it just isn't haunted. And they listened. Okay,

560
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:18.119
this is a woman in white situation again, or some

561
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.679
people actually call her the blue lady, so I guess

562
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.480
she appears blue sometimes. Oh interesting, and no one actually

563
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.320
called her the woman in white. They just call her Elizabeth.

564
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.159
That's her name. It's just like this is like the

565
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.199
woman in white stereo. Do we know how she spells

566
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:43.119
Elizabeth normally the normal way, which is not Caitlin's middle name.

567
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.760
That's the normal way. Is your middle name spelled that way?

568
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.199
I don't know, because you won't tell me how it's spelled.

569
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.880
Oh how is yours? It's spelled Elizabeth? I don't know.

570
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:03.199
How do you spell Elizabeth differently than an z a Beth? Okay?

571
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.280
Some people spelt with an S instead of the Z.

572
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.599
Oh, I've never seen that before. Sorry, oh yeah, I

573
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.039
was a normal way.

574
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.760
I don't know, Like I was like, trust me, my

575
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.119
name is Elizabeth. I know that people spell it other ways.

576
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:23.280
I was like, this isn't a Caitlin situation, Like, I mean,

577
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:27.280
it isn't. I guess I've never seen Elizabeth fell.

578
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:33.159
That's like people have fully been like, oh, you spell

579
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:34.239
it that way, weird.

580
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.679
Elizabeth was on her honeymoon with her new husband on

581
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.559
her honeymoon on her honeymoon, god damn it in room

582
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.000
three ten of the chateau in the thirties. So like

583
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.679
right after they opened, on their wedding night, he got

584
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:57.360
into some shady shenanigans with the housekeeper. What yeah this

585
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:06.000
piece of shit wow? Or other things yeah, other other

586
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.679
other sad things. So she went looking for him because

587
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.239
it's like it's their wedding night, Like where did he go?

588
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:18.519
And she found them together, So like did he know

589
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.519
this housekeeper and like that's like why he wanted to

590
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.119
stay on his honeymoon there? Or was this just like

591
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.519
like I need something else to like stick my dick

592
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:27.039
in right now?

593
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.119
I mean, he's probably just a scoundrel, like it's.

594
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.880
Your honeymoon, you have like you have some that's what

595
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.039
they're there for. I mean, you have to do it

596
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.920
on your honeymoon. But like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no,

597
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.920
that's maybe she said, no, maybe she was tired and

598
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.360
he just went off and was a dick bag.

599
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.840
It's like an entire bag of dicks.

600
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.840
Yeah wow, but yeah, that's awful. And obviously Elizabeth was

601
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.639
heartbroken and her life had just started, and she thought, like,

602
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.719
you know, since the beginning of my fucking life, and

603
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.760
then it got ripped away from her by such a dick.

604
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.880
I'm so frustrated by such a bag of dicks, even

605
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:11.239
though I know.

606
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.280
It's the legend. Ly I don't know, but still if

607
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:15.679
this happens, it would make me mad.

608
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.280
I feel like even if it didn't happen here and

609
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:29.320
now like it's happened, like under these specific parameters or circumstances,

610
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.400
you know that that legend comes to.

611
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.599
Life for a resa cous men. I know, because men,

612
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.960
because men are what trash which a trash pen. We

613
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.000
should just have that on every altar. Yeah, we'll just

614
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:48.159
slap it on there. So Elizabeth ran to their small

615
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.840
top room floor, which is like another weird thing someone

616
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.239
pointed out is like why were they in this tiny

617
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.480
like attic room for their honeymoon because of the view, right,

618
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.079
don't know, I don't know, like there were bigger rooms.

619
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.000
I'm sure maybe I just really I hate having to

620
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:11.000
keep saying this over and over with this type of story.

621
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.639
But some people might be new to ghost uff. I

622
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.519
don't want to just like say you know what happens,

623
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:17.719
because maybe you don't.

624
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.079
So, I mean, don't you thought those stories.

625
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.440
You might not know? Are you new to Earth? Maybe

626
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.159
maybe Okay, that's fair, she might be.

627
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.199
I don't want to make aliens feel weird.

628
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.559
Yeah, what if an alien is listening to us and

629
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.000
you just you just offended the ship out of them.

630
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:45.840
I apologize, I got you. So she either ran up

631
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.920
to the room so devastated that she felt like she

632
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.000
had no other choice but to jump from the window

633
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.280
to her death. My god, he's so not worth it,

634
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.599
I know, but like you know how it was, I

635
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.679
need like there is another option, but like back then

636
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.920
and even now, it's like a really hard choice.

637
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.400
I mean, also, just the devastation and like you know,

638
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:07.880
that was her.

639
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.599
That was the beginning of her life, like she thought

640
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.239
it was going to be one way and then now

641
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.840
it's all of a sudden not and you're just you

642
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.719
could be impulsive, And did you did you pick this one?

643
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.480
Because no, I didn't pick it. I picked it because

644
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.000
they need donations.

645
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.199
That's so funny because I definitely picked a case specifically

646
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.159
because of the timing. Oh and I'm I'm gonna fuck

647
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:38.719
Griss up with it. Yeah.

648
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.559
I kind of joked about picking like honeymoons and wedding stuff,

649
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.960
but I didn't mean to it. Just it just happened, no, naturally.

650
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.000
Yeah, yeah, I was like, I mean I've had this

651
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:50.559
case saved for a while.

652
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.360
I guess things just come into her lapse. Just happens.

653
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.480
Like with all the bear themes, we don't know where

654
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.559
it comes from. It'll just show up all the stories.

655
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.840
I mean, like, you can't make that up. I could

656
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.159
not have known that that one guy was like a

657
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:05.800
bear hunter.

658
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:06.599
Yeah.

659
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.960
I had to dig and that was just a random thing.

660
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:11.559
It just like popped us.

661
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:13.320
Love that you out of it right now.

662
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:18.400
I was like, also, bears, Wow, we've got something we're

663
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.119
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664
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675
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:54.440
Wow, But back to sad stuff. Oh right, So either

676
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.079
way she passed away, either if she did it on

677
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:02.360
her own or there's another version of the story is

678
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.400
that she went up just to pack her things and

679
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:05.960
leave and he pushed her.

680
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:11.280
Okay, so it's definitely like an out the window scenario.

681
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.599
Okay, yeah, on the top floor of the chateau, guests

682
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:23.280
sometimes hear footsteps above them, but again, like it's either

683
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.960
the attic or like the roof above you on the

684
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.480
top floor, so there.

685
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.840
Should be I mean steps back there just be like raccoons, right,

686
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.559
I mean, I guess yeah, but I think with the

687
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.719
building being so old, and all of the noises that

688
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.199
it makes that the footsteps would have to be like

689
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:49.000
pretty clear, and people also hear not just footsteps, but

690
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.679
they hear it crying sounds great, so of like maybe.

691
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.760
Or possibly a child, but probably a young woman. Cool.

692
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.519
Guests and staff who have ran into Elizabeth's spirit say

693
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:12.880
that she's like not very nice. Oh, which like, yeah,

694
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:14.400
I wouldn't be there when I.

695
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.199
Went out like that, but she kind of ended her

696
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:23.800
life in a terrible way after ending her marriage trash way. Yeah,

697
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:26.440
so I you know, I probably wouldn't be the happiest either.

698
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.639
Yeah, I mean I feel like that's fair. Yeah, but

699
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.599
I do have some great news for you, Okay, I

700
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.960
really do. This is actually really good news. I mean,

701
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.480
first of all, I don't believe you, but go on, no,

702
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.960
it is so we can't stay here because it's great.

703
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.800
They say that if someone checks into Elizabeth's room three

704
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.880
ten that you won't be getting a ghostly bunk mat

705
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.559
because she will leave the room if someone's in there.

706
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.800
She doesn't want to be around it people. She's like, ugh,

707
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.159
she goes and she wanders the halls of the hotel.

708
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.639
So you know, once you're in the room, to stay

709
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.320
in there, don't leave, and she won't bother you. Okay,

710
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.480
But one place she does like to frequent is the

711
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:18.960
third floor linen closet, and people say, weird joy hear

712
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.280
they hear sounds of moaning and crying coming from inside.

713
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.960
Oh no, So.

714
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.159
I don't know if maybe the moaning sounds are like

715
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:33.440
her husband and the housekeeper doing it, and then she

716
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:37.119
finds them and she starts crying, or maybe the moaning

717
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.920
is like the crying and she's just hiding in the

718
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.320
closet because she doesn't nowhere else to go. Or I

719
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.880
don't know, but that would make sense for like the

720
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.920
housekeeper to doing it in a linen closet. I hate that.

721
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.920
I hate it. I hate it so much. You don't

722
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.599
have any reason to go in the linen closet, so

723
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.880
you don't have to worry. We'll just be in now.

724
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.760
I have to because I just need to check. You

725
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:09.079
need to check. I have to know. She does also

726
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.440
like to spend time terrorizing the kitchen.

727
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:14.480
Here.

728
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:19.000
She likes to drop stuff on staff's heads, rude, paying

729
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.480
special attention to the people who don't believe in or

730
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.000
disrespect her in some way.

731
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.599
Okay, well, I mean that makes sense, but also still.

732
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:32.599
Rude, like don't don't fuck with the ghost. Yeah, just

733
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:36.239
be nice. There are people too, Okay.

734
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.000
One of these days, I'm totally going to die at

735
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.440
the hands of a ghost that my future husband mocked.

736
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.000
I'm going to die because of something super natural that

737
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.440
Christopher was like maybe maybe, babe.

738
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.360
Okay, well, we can't take him with us now because

739
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.320
we don't want stuff dropped on our heads. I don't.

740
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.320
She also bangs pots and pans and rattles doors in

741
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.079
the middle of the night, and I'm glad you finished

742
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.559
that sentence. She begsts and pans, she bangs. I really

743
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.800
wasn't sure where that was going. Okay, now we're just

744
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.039
gonna go to the chateau and seeing She bangs to Elizabeth,

745
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:26.719
and I think she would like that. She like it's

746
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.280
a coins. I don't know. Maybe she never did get

747
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:35.800
to bang. I don't know. Oh, no, more situation. That's true.

748
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.840
I didn't mean it, Elizabeth. I'm so sorry. I bang.

749
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.840
I beg. Yeah, we bang, we bang.

750
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.199
Like collectively, like join us if you wish, and like

751
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:48.679
no judgments either way.

752
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.119
So I don't know why she like bangs on pots

753
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:54.800
and pans and stuff. But I'm like, what if she's

754
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.119
just celebrating the new year or like COVID healthcare workers.

755
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.679
You know, maybe time's just a little different for her.

756
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think of other

757
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.480
occasions when you bang.

758
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.599
It's New Year's and to celebrate COVID healthcare workers. That's it,

759
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.480
That is it. Yeah, like this definitely was before COVID.

760
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.320
The time would have to work really different in the afterlife,

761
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.519
So you don't know. They caught some photo evidence of

762
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.760
Elizabeth in a storage area of the lodge. I don't

763
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.599
know if I don't know if it's a linen closet.

764
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.519
They just set a storage area, but I like to

765
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.280
think maybe it was the linen closet. The linen closet

766
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.360
and the photo used to be kept in a haunting

767
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.840
slog at the front desk. Shut the fuck. I don't

768
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.360
know if they still would do that or not shut

769
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.119
the actual front door. Yeah, I know, I couldn't find

770
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.239
the photo, so that would be cool if I had

771
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:53.079
it right, but I don't. But they say, but they

772
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.599
say that when she appears, she's obvious, she looks really sad,

773
00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:02.719
which is understandable. Yeah, and she looks innocent. She looks young.

774
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:07.440
She has blonde, curly hair. H I don't know why

775
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.800
they say she looks innocent. Maybe because she's just young,

776
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.679
like a young person, because they're like, she was.

777
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.199
On her honeymoon and the groom was, you know, binging

778
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:16.559
it out.

779
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.599
She's more innocent than that guy. Oh, and she's wearing

780
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.280
clothes that are like of the thirties in the photo

781
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.400
that they caught her in. They die for evidence of her,

782
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.920
and people see her. And a little girl that was

783
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.440
a guest at the chateau left an interesting crayon drawing

784
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.440
in the haunting log Stop it Elizabeth. She likes to

785
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:49.320
make things a little bit difficult for the housekeepers. And

786
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.519
I can't imagine why.

787
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.159
Yeah, I mean what why would she have?

788
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:58.159
Uh what's that called when you have a grudge, a

789
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.840
brudge against the housekeepers? I just I don't know why. Yeah,

790
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:05.800
she will again beg. You know what, I just thought

791
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:09.920
of this. She does bang. She probably doesn't know bang

792
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.519
like this, she probably knows bang. I was like, so

793
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.239
if we sang she bangs her, she would be like yeah,

794
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.519
she could do bang, and she would start banging on stuff. Yeah,

795
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.440
that's how we're gonna go shut We're just gonna sing.

796
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.360
Ricky Martin songs out loud to the Go again. She

797
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.440
bangs on the closet doors while the housekeepers are trying

798
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.960
to clean. So she just she keeps banging on shit. Yeah, well,

799
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.159
I mean that's fair. And then she doesn't stop there

800
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.159
because once they finish and lock the door behind them,

801
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.039
she will unmake the beds, unfold the towels, and toss

802
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:48.159
them around the room. She like is pissed off at

803
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.920
the house. She's like, not shy about that is not

804
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.400
the same girl. That is not the same girl, Like,

805
00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:00.360
you need to let it go. I mean, she's just, yeah,

806
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.039
she's going through some stuff. That is the definition of

807
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:08.800
a grudge. Yeah, it really really is. But if that person,

808
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.239
that person's not around anymore, That's what I say. But

809
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.599
I wonder if she still worked at the hotel after

810
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.119
and like she did fuck with her after and then

811
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.719
I don't know, I'm curious. We need we need to

812
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.280
go ask her. So I also do have to say

813
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.639
that there are no official records of any deaths in

814
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.400
the building. So I do want to say that just

815
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:33.719
so everyone knows.

816
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:40.760
Isn't this in a fairly like isolated or rural location.

817
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.679
Interesting. I don't know. I don't know what happened back

818
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.599
in the thirties. I don't want to blame on anybody.

819
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:48.480
No one does.

820
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.119
Yeah, no one knows what happens, like the kind of

821
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:51.880
the whole thing.

822
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:56.440
All I'm saying is there's no record of it, so

823
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:02.840
take that as you will. I went to website National

824
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:07.679
Parks Travelers dot org. It is not Org this time, Brokay,

825
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.480
National Parks Traveler dot Org. And there was a person's

826
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.039
comment on here and they didn't know about the ghost

827
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.199
hack for this place that I found for you, Caitlin.

828
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.599
A ghost hack, Yeah, the ghost hack where you can

829
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:21.719
stay in Elizabeth's room.

830
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:26.039
She leaves, Oh, that's the ghost hack.

831
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.360
So this person didn't know that. Sin twenty twelve, they

832
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.400
wrote this comment that the front desk checked them into

833
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.320
room three ten and told them it was the haunted

834
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.880
Elizabeth's room. So they went up to check it out

835
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.079
and quickly came back down to change rooms. They didn't

836
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.960
say anything happened, but I just think they didn't want

837
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.920
to stay in a haunted room. Okay. They said when

838
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:56.440
they slept in this other room, they got terrible sleep.

839
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.679
And then the staff told them that there was an

840
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:04.880
in in that room that torments people. Oh, I don't

841
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:06.840
know if this is like a different inter deer, if

842
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.920
this is Elizabeth, since she's not in her own room,

843
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.360
she's often like someone else's room. Yeah, I don't know.

844
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:15.320
They should have stayed.

845
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.320
They should have stayed with the devil, you know, you know,

846
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:20.079
I think so.

847
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.079
Especially since now we know in hindsight that room three

848
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:28.000
ten is probably the best place to say if you

849
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.360
don't want activity, you know, I mean, I guess. There

850
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:37.920
was another comment on this website. My late spouse Lourene Parton,

851
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.480
and I stayed at the chateau in the nineteen eighties.

852
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.440
We read and heard nothing about any haunting. Which it

853
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.280
was the eighties, so I don't know. Did they really

854
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.159
like report on like haunted stuff that frequently?

855
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.840
I feel like it was mostly like urban legends. Yes,

856
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.159
you know read it wasn't around.

857
00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:01.039
To write, so the story hadn't gotten to them yet. Okay,

858
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.719
they go on to say, waking up in the middle

859
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.559
of the night, we heard a woman pacing in our room,

860
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:11.039
up and down, up and down until we finally returned

861
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:15.239
to sleep. When we reported this the next morning, our

862
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.519
breakfast server asked if we wanted to see something really spooky.

863
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.960
Uh nope, all good? I said yes, and this is

864
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:24.280
not me.

865
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:26.719
They said yes, Oh boy.

866
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.480
He took me to what I recall as a light

867
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:34.440
filled room without furniture the hotel never rented. The moment

868
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.519
he opened the door, I was frozen in terror. I

869
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.119
couldn't even enter the room. Everyone responds the same way

870
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:47.159
he said, closing the door. Other servers said that they

871
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:51.079
have to duck when cutlery sometimes flies from the drawers

872
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.719
when they set the breakfast tables. Believe me, this is

873
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.639
no publicity stunt. I mean, the place isn't even open

874
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.079
at this point, so why would they even need a

875
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:06.639
publicity stunt. Okay, we're going to go on to another

876
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:10.159
story that was submitted in twenty twenty one. So obviously

877
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.480
they weren't staying there in twenty twenty one because the

878
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.039
hotel was closed. It says, I had written a long

879
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:21.000
story and it disappeared. What not surprising, So they had

880
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:25.679
already commented a story and it's gone. Oh yeah, So

881
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:28.400
I wonder if they had like commented when it originally

882
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:33.400
it had happened. Oh, I have pictures of Elizabeth in

883
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.119
room three oh nine. No you don't.

884
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:37.880
Nope, Nope.

885
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:42.239
So Elizabeth's room is three ten. But remember I said

886
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.199
that she leaves, So maybe she went to three oh

887
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.840
nine because she wont a little ghostly gap. Remember we

888
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.559
talked about that too. Oh geez, she just needs some

889
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.599
ghostly gap in her life and I get it. Also,

890
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.239
we should just start a podcast called ghostly Gaps ghostly gag.

891
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.119
Oh yeah, I don't know how much more ghostydness I

892
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:09.000
can handle.

893
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.480
Well, we could start this, someone else can host it,

894
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:13.360
and then you'll just get the prophets.

895
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:18.360
Yeah, Jim.

896
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.000
So Elizabeth apparently is talking to this person because they

897
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.360
say she told me she had just married her husband

898
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:32.480
because she was pregnant. I have three photos of Elizabeth materializing.

899
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.320
The sadness will remain until she and her child are

900
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.920
acknowledged somehow. Oh so there's no record or any other

901
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.400
story saying she was pregnant. But I guess this person

902
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.920
is kind of like psychic or can talk to the dead,

903
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:50.400
and they somehow got from her that she was with child.

904
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.880
So that makes the story even more sad than buck up,

905
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.880
and I want to believe that's not true. Yeah, that's awful.

906
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.719
How do you go cheat on your pregnant new life?

907
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:06.320
Wowsh like you are a double dirt bag dick real.

908
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.239
DDD. I'm next. I'm going to read a comment from

909
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.599
your ghost stories dot com and this is from twenty sixteen.

910
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.400
Coming to the chateau, I knew nothing of its history.

911
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.840
Y'all need to just look up haunted hotels before you

912
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.480
go anywhere.

913
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.760
I mean, or just look up the places that you're

914
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.840
going to stay, even if you aren't quite sure that

915
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:30.079
they're haunted.

916
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.800
Just type in the place and then haunted after it,

917
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.559
just to make sure you know, or you know.

918
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.320
Maybe just like try going beyond like the hotel's actual

919
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:43.559
like their website in the search result, because what if

920
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.400
there's other stuff that's happened there, Like maybe it's not haunted,

921
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.159
but what if there's other stuff you should know about?

922
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.880
That's true. All my whole family knew was it was

923
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:55.719
a really old hotel by the Oregon Caves, which it is.

924
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.039
That is true. Since the moment we walked in and

925
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:03.559
checked in, I felt uncomfortable. I couldn't tell you why,

926
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:09.400
but I felt there was someone there everywhere taking time

927
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.000
to explore. I would walk around the lobby upstairs from

928
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.760
the dining room. Everything was normal and busy. But no

929
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.440
matter how hard I tried, I could never sit by,

930
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.880
walk by, or stand by the piano without getting chilled.

931
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.199
That's so funny because as soon as you said everywhere,

932
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:28.960
I was like.

933
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:35.519
Like Michelle branch Oh, she played the piano.

934
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.519
I'm just saying coincidence.

935
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:39.960
I think, No.

936
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:40.840
Not.

937
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.599
The feeling I kept getting every time I was around

938
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.800
or in the chateau made me uncomfortable enough to beg

939
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.519
my parents to leave and not stay the night. Wow. Yeah,

940
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.400
you make that whole trip up there. You're not leaving. Yeah,

941
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:56.599
that's a lot. Yeah, I mean you'd have to be

942
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.599
really uncomfortable. Yeah, and it's like out there, like if

943
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:02.079
you look it up, it's quite a way, like a

944
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.239
drive from the main town that's close by. So yeah,

945
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:05.960
you're not there.

946
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:07.199
Nowhere else to stay?

947
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:11.400
No, you must stay in the cave. Oh my god, no,

948
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.480
a bad apartment. That night when I went to bed

949
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:18.519
in my room, in my own room, I was twelve

950
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.880
at the time. No matter how hard I tried, I

951
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.400
couldn't get to sleep the whole night. I just kept

952
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.400
hearing the couple upstairs. Okay, yelling at each other, stomping

953
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.119
around and slamming doors.

954
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.320
Were they stomping or were you twelve and you didn't

955
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.559
know what those voices were?

956
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.800
I don't know. When I talked to my parents the

957
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.639
next morning about it, they told me they hadn't heard

958
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:46.119
a thing. Hmmm, this being hard to believe because the

959
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.599
couple was so loud. Oh boy, chalking it up to

960
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.360
maybe my imagination in a dream I made to match

961
00:59:54.400 --> 01:00:01.039
my uneasy feelings. I think the parents, we're too embarrassed.

962
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.280
I think they did hear something, and they were like,

963
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:10.559
we didn't hear anything because we don't want to explain

964
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.239
those noises.

965
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:15.280
Well I don't think that. I don't think they were

966
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:16.239
sex noises though.

967
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:19.760
Well okay, well we'll talk about it.

968
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.320
That was my favorite theory or yeah, we'll go over it.

969
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:26.400
It's kind of my only theory. So well, I have one.

970
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.639
My family and I brushed the incident off as we

971
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.079
were checking out. My dad, who loves to share, began

972
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.559
retelling my tale to the receptionist, who began to laugh.

973
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:45.639
She just mentioned that the chateau was known for being haunted. Haha,

974
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.440
they didn't know this previously. Okay, that's right, all right.

975
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.599
The only thing that convinced my parents I wasn't dreaming

976
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.920
was after leaving the chateau, we looked up the story

977
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.960
and then found out the tale of Elizabeth in her

978
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:04.400
astray Fielce. I don't know which. I think they were married.

979
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.639
I think they're already married, yeah, Julie was, yeah.

980
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.800
Right, yeah, but you can see how overtime that sort

981
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.920
of gets. It's like a game of tri phone, right, Yeah,

982
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:18.960
they're like married, engaged, same thing, Nato Tomato.

983
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.599
Whose room just happened to be beside mine, so they

984
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:29.440
were staying right next to Elizabeth's room. Oh so my

985
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:36.599
theory was that this was like the them fighting about

986
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.719
you know, what had happened about him cheating on her

987
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.880
and she was like, you're a scoundrel. Yeah, he was

988
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:45.519
like hearing the residual fight from the night.

989
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:50.239
That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, probably more sense

990
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:50.960
than my theory.

991
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:55.000
But like, I don't know, because she's having angry sex,

992
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:56.119
I don't know.

993
01:01:56.199 --> 01:02:00.679
They could have been still a residual haunting, yeah, and

994
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:01.880
having angry sex.

995
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.760
Or maybe it's the sounds of him boning that that

996
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.000
housekeeper and then she finds them and then they fight.

997
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:12.280
Yeah, the wires or just like the wires got crossed,

998
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:14.800
and there's just like everything, all of the events of

999
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.559
that night just kind of being funneled into well.

1000
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:25.559
All time is happening all at once. So oh my god. Okay,

1001
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.719
does anyone need to take a drink real quick, because

1002
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:31.960
all right, I have one more thing about the chateau

1003
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.519
and the caves. There's a recorded bigfoot sighting in the

1004
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:42.440
vicinity of the chateau. Really yes. There is a documentary

1005
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:47.480
from the Daily Courier dot com on psychologist Matthew Johnson's

1006
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:49.960
bigfoot sighting at the Oregon Caves.

1007
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.880
Really yes, okay, And that's not just like any old yogel.

1008
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.880
I mean he's a psychologist. Yeah, so that means he's

1009
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.079
like basically an ex for in the outdoors. Yeah, you know,

1010
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:10.719
just saying toats totes, like what are you going to

1011
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:12.760
do when you find bigfoot? Like lay him on a

1012
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:14.800
couch and ask him about his childhood?

1013
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.960
I mean maybe I feel like I would. Why are

1014
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:24.400
you so anti social? Yeah you're very misunderstood. What would

1015
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:27.239
you like people to know about you?

1016
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.719
How do you feel about them? Yeah? Anyway possible?

1017
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:35.119
I guess that was more Diane Sawyer than it was

1018
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:36.000
like psychologist.

1019
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.920
But you know, okay, with Potato, I feel kind of bad.

1020
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:41.800
I'm not I'm not like making fun of him. It's

1021
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.400
just like the situation about a psychologist, like the fact

1022
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.039
a psycho. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. This man was actually

1023
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.320
kind of on the verge of tears talking about it

1024
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:57.960
because he was so scared witnessing what he thinks is Bigfoot,

1025
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.119
and he was like, everything I knew about the outdoors,

1026
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.400
it's like changed forever because this thing I had witnessed

1027
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.840
that I previously, you know, didn't think was a thing

1028
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:09.960
that existed in the world, and now it does.

1029
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.320
Yeah, that does change your perception. I guess I didn't

1030
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:14.960
think about that.

1031
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.519
Yeah, it's kind of freaky. Yeah. There's also something called

1032
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:24.880
the Southern Oregon Bigfoot Experience. Okay, it's like a museum,

1033
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.039
like a Bigfoot museum.

1034
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.639
Okay, but that could be fun. I'm going, okay, now,

1035
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:32.000
let's let's do let's go. We gotta take another break.

1036
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.159
I have actually, but.

1037
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.360
Well, what if I tell you there's also Yetti's ice

1038
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:41.800
Cream and Treats in town. Hmm.

1039
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.199
Wait, when they say Yetti's, what are they? It's just

1040
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.760
the name of the ice cream places, Yetti's ice creams.

1041
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.599
I was like, there's like a Yetti store and then

1042
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.320
also an ice cream No, it's not like Yetti's like

1043
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.719
your cups or you know. But I was like, that's

1044
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.280
fusing in this context, just because like Bigfoot and.

1045
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.960
Then we're talking about Yet you get it, you get it. Yeah,

1046
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.679
but yeah, it's kind of like a Bigfoot. It's like

1047
01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:10.679
the same interchangeable, you know. That's what I was thinking.

1048
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.840
But Yeti's are like in the snow. So it's like

1049
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.800
ice cream makes sense, yes, mayeah, total sense, but they

1050
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:20.920
kind of I think they should have named it Yeti's

1051
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.440
ice cream and sweet treats. It's just sounds like I

1052
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.280
keep wanting to say something more than treats. It just

1053
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.079
needs to be sweet treats. You know, they just go together.

1054
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.639
I like it. Well anyway, that's that's my story, and

1055
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.760
I think everyone should definitely go donate to the chateau

1056
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.280
to get this. Get this lady rebuilt, get her up

1057
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:47.079
and run again so we can stay in her gorgeousness,

1058
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:54.480
you her montor Okay, do you think we should do

1059
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.800
some taro? Yeah, let's do a little batty tarot. Yeah,

1060
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:05.440
what does that entail, Betty, shit, just get batty in

1061
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:11.519
this bit Shittywow. Okay.

1062
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.920
So I went to shuffle and even though this deck

1063
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:21.000
is like the size of standard cards, had a couple

1064
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.039
poppers there. So we've got two cards we've laid out

1065
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:31.199
already on the altar, and Cassie's Cassie's wrapping up. We

1066
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.519
got the ten of Hearts in the Tree of Diamonds

1067
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.920
as our poppers. All right, she's picking a cod pick

1068
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.079
a cad any cad, which God will it be?

1069
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:48.599
It's a frog? Okay. So I'm using not a Tarot

1070
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:52.239
deck today, but I'm using a duck of cards called

1071
01:06:52.280 --> 01:07:00.119
the Cabinetarium. And it's like a weirdo, creepy duck. And

1072
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.800
we got it from the Hopscotch place in Portland. That's right,

1073
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:10.079
I knew I recognized her. Yeah, it's really cute. So

1074
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.840
the two poppers we had, Caitlin's do you want to

1075
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:14.800
read those first? Or should I?

1076
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:15.480
It's up to you.

1077
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.079
Let's uh. Let's so I pulled a jack card or

1078
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:21.000
a joker card.

1079
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:23.960
I was wondering if that's what it was.

1080
01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:28.960
So I pulled the school Guard. I'm assuming because it

1081
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:33.840
has no label it so I assume that that's it, alright,

1082
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:38.039
so love it. Yeah, so we pulled the two of pentacles,

1083
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:41.599
which is diamonds, and then the ten of cups, which

1084
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:46.960
is hearts. Probably have to remind me in a second

1085
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:51.079
that's I'm a gold fish. Those the ones that fell out,

1086
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.039
not Yeah.

1087
01:07:53.199 --> 01:08:02.960
Okay, who of pentacles. Our keywords are balanced, busyness, financial partnership, choices.

1088
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.800
Whos and downs. Okay, financial partnership. They're in need of that.

1089
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:09.719
Yeah.

1090
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.320
Yeah.

1091
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:16.159
Some decks picture a person juggling to pentacles, which represents

1092
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:20.520
juggling different facets of your life. You're trying to keep

1093
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:24.439
many balls in the air, so to speak. Sometimes this

1094
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:30.119
card indicates making a choice between two things, like maybe

1095
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:33.079
your wife and a brand new mystery.

1096
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:34.920
Right, yeah, that's true.

1097
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:40.760
Should I go with the upright because there's not really

1098
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:42.680
an upright versus reverse?

1099
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.600
And I mean there kind of is on these because

1100
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:47.479
they have a picture, but I don't know what way

1101
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.279
they fell out, So we'll just go with upright.

1102
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:52.359
Yeah, I think that's kind of what I was thinking.

1103
01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:55.720
And I think I think I pulled the joker card

1104
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.039
because it's like a frog being dissected. Hold on, let

1105
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:01.600
me look. Yeah, it's such a cool picture. But I

1106
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.399
was like, which way because oh, I guess, probably this way,

1107
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:07.840
So I drew it in reverse. Oh you guys know

1108
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:09.239
I drew it this way.

1109
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:14.520
So fol Okay, The upright too can mean good fortune

1110
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.720
as a result of your ability to handle many things

1111
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:22.920
at once. You manage to balance work and play and

1112
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.600
feel content with your situation. Sometimes it shows you have

1113
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.960
many resources at your disposal and know how to use

1114
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:34.760
them well, so donate with confidence.

1115
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:36.600
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like this is

1116
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:40.000
mostly about the money situation and the rebuilding stuff.

1117
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.399
Yeah, yeah, which I feel like that's typical of pentacles.

1118
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:44.000
Yeah.

1119
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.960
In a reading about money, the upright too may mean

1120
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:48.399
doubling your money.

1121
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.880
Oh yeah, I hope so well, doubling it because they

1122
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:53.760
need to pay a lot more. Right.

1123
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.279
Perhaps by joining forces with a partner you can profit,

1124
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.600
You can profit more than you could alone. In some cases,

1125
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.720
this card indicates two sources of income. So maybe they're

1126
01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:12.399
going to start doing some haunty, spooky, creepy Tourso that's

1127
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.000
another source of revenue, right, just a suggestion.

1128
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.359
Yeah, I mean they do do all those cave tours.

1129
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:18.640
Do do there?

1130
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:22.479
You go do do if the reading is about your job.

1131
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.960
The two can represent balancing work with downtime. You need

1132
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.960
both to stay happy and healthy. It can also indicate

1133
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:34.560
a busy period when you have to juggle projects or duties.

1134
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:36.159
Duties.

1135
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:41.680
Sometimes it suggests choosing between two job offers or opportunities.

1136
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:44.520
Okay, so the duality of it.

1137
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:47.880
I feel like we can see there's applications.

1138
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:51.640
Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure they're juggling, Like what project

1139
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.880
do you do first? Yeah, one's going to be more

1140
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:57.399
important to like, yeah, the buildings structure.

1141
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.640
Yeah, yeah, to any number of concerns that you would

1142
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.560
have in this case. In a reading about love, this

1143
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.880
card may represent shared resources or working with a romantic partner.

1144
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:13.760
Oh, I mean a situation if.

1145
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:18.000
You're hanging out together still in the afterlife and hunting.

1146
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.960
I feel like, honestly, he wouldn't be there. I feel

1147
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:24.800
like it would just be the chicks that would be

1148
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:26.720
the ones to stay, because he would be like off

1149
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:30.000
somewhere else, banging someone else in the afterlife.

1150
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:35.800
So frustrating. Perhaps running a business together. It's us, so

1151
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.600
working together, running a business together. It can also mean

1152
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:44.119
you're trying to balance your work and domestic life. Sometimes

1153
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:46.560
it indicates a choice between two partners.

1154
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:51.359
I wonder if they're getting someone else to like own

1155
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.840
it with them, maybe who's bringing more of financial support? Yeah,

1156
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.479
I mean the idea what's going on with them? But yeah,

1157
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:01.119
possible or like we don't know them personally. Just to

1158
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:03.439
be clear, maybe if you're listening, maybe you do need

1159
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:08.560
to get someone else to help own property with your partnership.

1160
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.159
Little idea from Tarot, not from us, so if it

1161
01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:13.359
goes wrong, don't blame us.

1162
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.720
Hashtag not financial advice.

1163
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.319
Yeah okay.

1164
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.000
And then our other card use a ten.

1165
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:26.439
Ton of cups, which is that family card where there's

1166
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:30.680
like a house in the distance, there's like two children playing.

1167
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.199
So I feel like maybe it is going to get

1168
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.600
like built up nice and new where families are going

1169
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:39.039
to come and stay again. And let's just hope it's

1170
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.439
going to be a happy place. I hope. So with

1171
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:46.600
life the Chateau. Yeah okay.

1172
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:54.039
So our keywords are comfort, happiness, domestic bliss, love and harmony.

1173
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:57.319
Oh my god, you guys. Yeah, did I even talk

1174
01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.560
about the I might have talked about the chairs, but

1175
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.199
this card is a chair, and I don't know if

1176
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:07.760
you remember they have like the special old chairs that

1177
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:10.479
they lost most of them in the flood, and so

1178
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.279
they're trying to like get more and rebuild them the

1179
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:16.039
way that they were. And we got a freaking chair card.

1180
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:22.079
That is wild. How funny? That is wild? Okay, all right?

1181
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:27.119
A card of fulfillment, which is a good sign positive.

1182
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.760
The ten of cups represents a happy home where love

1183
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:36.680
and harmony abide. Some decks show a contented couple gazing

1184
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:41.800
at their beautiful home while their children play. Others picture

1185
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:45.279
the pair with flowers, rainbows, and other symbols of love

1186
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.840
and hope. You could think of this as the happy

1187
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:49.840
ever aftercard.

1188
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:50.359
Oh.

1189
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:58.600
Like other tens, this card signifies a time of completion. Yay, yay,

1190
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:06.119
hopefully soon yeah five, when you reap the rewards of

1191
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:06.960
what you've sown.

1192
01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:11.840
Life is good. Abundance in the true sense of the word,

1193
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.319
is yours. I can't even imagine that feeling. When they

1194
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.119
do open back up, like all of the stuff that

1195
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.600
they have gone through, it's gonna happen. The cards are

1196
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:22.279
saying it's happening.

1197
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:26.840
I think so, yeah. I mean, my gosh, Okay. In

1198
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.479
a reading about money, you're in a position of financial

1199
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.840
security and comfort, maybe because you brought in a partner.

1200
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.800
It's hard to say. Are we the partners?

1201
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:38.399
Are we gonna own horsha?

1202
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:44.880
Your efforts pay off? Sometimes this ten represents family money

1203
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.920
and inheritance or marrying into wealth.

1204
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.279
Oh, we should all be so looking. Okay.

1205
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.199
If the reading is about your job, the upright ten

1206
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:58.880
Herald's rewards respect and recognition.

1207
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:05.399
We're recognizing you, we see you, we see your chateau.

1208
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.279
You're proud of what you've accomplished and content with your success.

1209
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.840
Ah well, yeah, it's pretty easy to be content with success.

1210
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:20.199
Can confirm from that one time. This card can also

1211
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:25.640
mean working in a successful family business. It's talking. I

1212
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:29.279
feel like in both of these card interpretations about sort

1213
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:33.199
of like a partnership, being involved in business with someone

1214
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:34.039
who's close to you.

1215
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:38.640
Yeah, I canna vive here. It's cool. Yeah, they go together.

1216
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:39.640
I love it.

1217
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.039
In a reading about love, this card represents a loving, supportive,

1218
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:49.880
joyful relationship. It indicates a happy family life where the

1219
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:54.600
people involved share love openly and feel secure in their situation.

1220
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:55.319
Ah.

1221
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.119
So, you know, maybe it's gonna flip the whole story

1222
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.279
of this place kind of on its head a little bit.

1223
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.119
Yeah, there's probably gonna be no more shitty dudes cheating

1224
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:09.960
on their newlywed wifs with the house because I bet

1225
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.760
you all of these housekeepers since have been like, uh no,

1226
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:17.960
we heard what happened to that other housekeeper. She got

1227
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.560
taken advantage of by this one guy, and it'll never

1228
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:25.560
happen again, not today, Satan. Yeah, it wasn't her fault,

1229
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.479
she got taken advantage of by this dick hole. Okay,

1230
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.600
but they learned from her, not her mistake, his mistake. Yeah,

1231
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:34.000
from the mistake.

1232
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:39.079
They learned from a bad situation where people were hurt

1233
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:45.399
and feelings were abused and people were not happy.

1234
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was all the man's fault.

1235
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:53.600
Yeah, smash the patriarchy.

1236
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:59.800
Where's my hammer necklace? When I needed? What are you

1237
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:00.279
gonna do?

1238
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:04.439
Well, that's all I have for those two cards. Okay, Yeah,

1239
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:07.079
so let's go for the fool reasse. I feel like

1240
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:11.680
these are more gonna be the well I was thinking

1241
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.079
about the ghosts, but we'll see, we shall see.

1242
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:16.279
Okay.

1243
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:24.079
So keywords for the fool innocence beginnings, trust, hope, and opportunity.

1244
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:29.920
And I'm not going to read this crazy long like

1245
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:34.920
intro on it because it describes mainly the traditional taro

1246
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.640
and like that imagery. And also, you guys, how many

1247
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.920
bajillions of times have we read that too?

1248
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.279
Well? I can yeah, right, I can picture. I do

1249
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:46.920
have something to say about the look of the card,

1250
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:48.960
and then we can move on. But it's kind of

1251
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.279
like on like a rocky mountain side. It's like a cliff,

1252
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:54.920
so like that is you know, there's probably a cave

1253
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:59.640
down at the bottom, could be could be. Oh, I

1254
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.119
like it. Wait hold on, Oh my god, I just

1255
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:06.399
remembered my headphone flew off. You guys, remember I told

1256
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:08.479
you the story about how the cave was found by

1257
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.880
the man and his dog in the pool has a

1258
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:14.279
dog on it. It's like a man and his dog

1259
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:21.720
in the wilderness. Okay, crazy mind, a little bit blown.

1260
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:25.079
I'm so glad we're learning, though, because we if we

1261
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:27.319
were just doing these cards because they don't have the

1262
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:30.520
normal imagery, if we didn't have at least like the fool,

1263
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.039
it's kind of like an easy one to remember. But yeah,

1264
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:35.239
I'm glad we're learning because now we know, like what

1265
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.479
the cards should look like, we can relate it.

1266
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:42.239
To the I think a lot of this I don't

1267
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.720
really realize until in the moment. This is a really

1268
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.439
good It's kind of a test, but it like in

1269
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.479
a less scary way, like when you try to go

1270
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:52.039
get your drivers permit, you know.

1271
01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.880
Yeah, using the deck. That's not the usual tear out.

1272
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:56.880
You have to know things.

1273
01:18:57.439 --> 01:19:00.520
Yeah, I feel like I'm I'm absorbing more then I thought.

1274
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.479
Yeah, we know things, you guys. I'm so impressed with myself.

1275
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:07.920
I'm so glad even though we did this on a

1276
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.560
different day that I had recalled that story of the

1277
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:12.920
man and his dog finding the cave. That's so cool.

1278
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:16.199
I can't perfectly remember that me neither good for you.

1279
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:23.000
My brain is work. I love it. Okay, uh interesting.

1280
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:27.319
If the fool is reversed, you may feel restless and bored,

1281
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:31.439
eager to try something new, but now it's probably not

1282
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.920
the right time to act because it hits your wedding

1283
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:36.319
night right.

1284
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.600
Or you're going out looking for a cave and you

1285
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:42.199
are looking for hunting and you find a bare cave. Yikes.

1286
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:46.760
I think of this as the don't quit your day

1287
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:50.600
job guard. That's not to say what you want is

1288
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.520
wrong headed, but you need to consider the pros and

1289
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:55.239
cons carefully before you.

1290
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:59.600
Walk off that cliff. The other thing I was thinking of,

1291
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.359
like when they started the construction of the building, like

1292
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.600
they were just oh, they knew they needed it, but

1293
01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:07.199
they're kind of like blindly going into all of these

1294
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:10.479
other things they didn't know were coming. Yeah.

1295
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.439
Oh boy, in a reading about money, you may not

1296
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:17.359
have all the information you need to make a well

1297
01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:22.199
founded decision, and impulsive action could lead to a fall.

1298
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.600
Ooh, a fall like the like the whole building could

1299
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:26.199
fall down.

1300
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:31.640
Yeah, someone may take advantage of your innocence.

1301
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:33.399
I mean I don't know.

1302
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.920
It feels pretty pointed. Yeah, potentially of the wedding night.

1303
01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:38.680
Yeah.

1304
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:42.840
The reverse fool can mean you're vacillating or overly cautious

1305
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.199
about money matters. If the reading is about your job,

1306
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:49.920
your current situation has probably led to a dead end,

1307
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:53.199
or you've grown bored with your career path you're on.

1308
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.600
It's time to strike out in a new direction. Don't

1309
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:02.399
do this hastily, however, Yeah, their information and explore possibilities,

1310
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.000
so you know some of the unexpected things. I feel

1311
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:07.239
like you were talking about.

1312
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:10.600
Married or like with marrying someone. I guess you don't

1313
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:13.479
really know because he's turns out to be a dickhead.

1314
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:17.640
So maybe get all the dickhead information more. Yeah, it's

1315
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:19.880
funny to that. Yeah, I kind of was picking up

1316
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:21.159
a vibe.

1317
01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.840
In a reading about love. This card can warn you

1318
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:27.920
to look more closely at a partner or relationship.

1319
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:32.079
Things may not be what you think. God damn it,

1320
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:33.520
I know. I don't like that.

1321
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:38.199
The reverse fool may also indicate the end of a

1322
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.960
relationship and greater freedom as a result.

1323
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:47.319
I mean, maybe she was free. Yikes.

1324
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:54.359
Okay, oh okay, this feels kind of dark.

1325
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:57.479
I have chilies. Okay, I'm heave damn gee.

1326
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:03.960
But think before you act, however, for you might regret

1327
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:06.680
a breakup undertaken hastily.

1328
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:11.000
I feel like you might regret a breakup with your

1329
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:17.880
own life taken hastily maybe, yeah, okay, or on his side,

1330
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:19.840
like if he did push her out the window, like

1331
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:24.319
regret that, bro, because you I hope you went to hell?

1332
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:26.279
Yeah hell, and not the cool part.

1333
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:31.720
Like, okay, breakup kind of an understatement in that case, yike.

1334
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:35.520
Damn Okay, Well that was really cool. I love it. God,

1335
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:37.239
I love it. We got the full card and then

1336
01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:40.279
the freaking chair. Well should we get out here? Seeing

1337
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.720
them do your thing? Do my thing? She got a

1338
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.439
thing that she has something to do.

1339
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.119
I like, literally never have anything to do.

1340
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:54.000
I have a very important appointment. All right, well let's

1341
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:56.960
get her to it. All right, I have a creepy

1342
01:22:57.039 --> 01:23:02.119
as day. We'll see you next two. She get lost

1343
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:05.479
in a cave and lose your matches and then lose

1344
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.119
your dog and don't say that, and you have to

1345
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:13.359
live in a bear apartment forever. Oh no, I mean

1346
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:14.279
maybe it's snuggly.

1347
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:18.319
Did I mention I E would think? Now, I'm like,

1348
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:19.439
I'm gonna get lost.

1349
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.840
I don't like any of this. Don't get lost near

1350
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:23.359
any caves.

1351
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:28.399
Caitlin is, Yeah, I think I can manage that today.

1352
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:35.960
I hope bye bye.

1353
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:53.359
Oh that was from the deep. I was thinking, penises

1354
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.720
make her sneeze? And you're like, oh, that was from

1355
01:23:55.760 --> 01:24:01.159
the deep. Wait penis as we're talking about naked bike

1356
01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:03.000
ride and then you see this, and I was gonna

1357
01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:04.880
be like, penises make you sneak.

1358
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:16.279
I don't know my delicate ladylike sensibilities can Yeah. Yeah,

1359
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:22.199
I'm basically like a Texas school marm.

1360
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.399
She's naughty, she's nasty. We didn't say peena w a

1361
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:26.520
fere nasty.

1362
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:27.920
We didn't I thought we did.

1363
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:31.319
No, we didn't anyway. We peanab a nasty, and we

1364
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:31.600
are