The Cannibal at the North End of the World: Baxbakwalanuksiwe’

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He is also known by one other name,

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"Cannibal at the North End of the World."

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Listen, I want things to be kind of neat and tidy.

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You got to give it a little pop, but I like that.

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That's good.

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"Cannibal at the North End of the World."

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That's the one.

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Yeah.

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It's like be descriptive, but don't be like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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You know?

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You can't either, you know, it could mean several different things.

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Okay.

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"Cannibal is very clear."

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This is true.

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I think, you know, it's eloquent in its brevity.

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He could be going Nelly Furtado on everyone's ass.

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Ooh.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Oh, hi.

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Hello.

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Why are you scared, Caitlyn?

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You don't know what's about to happen.

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I don't, but you've been building it up for like a week.

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I mean, at least.

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Spooky season is technically over, but it never ends.

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It never ends here.

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Not on PNW Haunts and Homicides where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and all things

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spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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That's right.

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The limit does not exist.

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Or the PNW if you're nasty.

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She got it in there.

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What we had to because this episode is fucking nasty.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, nasty.

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Nice day.

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All right.

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So now I feel like I'm maybe getting a sense of things.

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Do we say the thing about the tarot?

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Because we do a tarot reading in every episode for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.

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I wonder what we're going to get for this one.

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It's so.

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I'm so interested.

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Yeah, I really like to know what tarot deck you're planning to use.

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Oh, well, I could give you a little spoiler and show you which one I'm going to use.

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The program.

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Excellent.

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Well, let's just get it into it.

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Okay.

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We're going to do one of Caitlyn's No No Topics today.

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Great.

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I was hoping you would say that.

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And I'm going to start with a simuliric from a song from the Hamat’sa ceremony, which I'll explain

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what that is.

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If you don't know what that is in a little bit too.

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All right.

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I went all around the world to find some food.

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I don't know the beat you guys.

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So it's just I'm just reading it.

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Okay.

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Okay, that's fair.

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I could do it.

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I could try to do it like a rapper.

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I went all around the world to find some food.

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No, okay.

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I don't think he should do that.

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Okay.

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Please.

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I went all around the world to find some food.

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I went all around the world to find human flesh.

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No.

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I went all around the world to find human heads.

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I went all around the world to find corpses.

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But imagine like not in English.

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Yeah.

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It probably sounds really, really cool and beautiful.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad you sang it in English so that I wasn't like accidentally like boffin like.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Well, I probably couldn't pronounce any of the words because it was really hard.

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It was hard to find how to pronounce these words that I have to say anyway.

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So we're not going to be speaking a different language.

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Okay.

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All right.

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The most terrifying story in the Kwakwaka’wakw folklore is of Baxbakwalanuksiwe’.

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Sounds pretty intense.

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And I'm going to like spell it for you.

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Oh, jeez.

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B-A-X.

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B-A-X-W-A-L-A-N-U-K-S-I-W-E.

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That feels a little overwhelming.

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It does.

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But when you get it broken down for you, Baxbakwalanuksiwe’.

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It's not too bad.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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No, I mean, I'm glad that it didn't come up at the sixth grade spelling bee, but.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because that would be rough.

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But intense.

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It's actually funny.

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You mentioned that because I found a lot of the info for this in like a, it's a grade school

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curriculum.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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It says it's meant for grades four and five.

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Okay.

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Very specific.

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Because this story is a little.

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It's, I mean, it's a little rough.

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Yeah.

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So I wanted to find something that kind of also not watered it down, but like made it a

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little more tame.

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So like maybe I, you know, talk about the grade school version a little bit than, rather

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than maybe make it a little bit more palatable.

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So I guess we're going to find out am I smarter than a fifth grader?

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Am I more emotionally mature than a fifth grader?

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Probably not.

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I feel like I know the answers, but we'll find out.

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Would you like to know what, Baxbakwalanuksiwe’ translates to?

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Yeah.

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Man eater at the north end of the world.

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Yeah, I had a feeling that it was going to be something that I wasn't going to be super

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psyched about, but.

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So I'm sending you the picture of him.

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Oh boy.

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This is Nightmare Fuel.

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No, this is Baxbakwalanuksiwe’.

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Listen, as someone who's worked in a lot of dental offices, that's not normal dentition.

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It's entirely too many teeth.

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A lot of teeth.

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A lot of mouths.

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A lot of weirdly placed mouths.

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Are you seeing where all the mouths are placed?

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Yeah, they.

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So let's describe them a little bit.

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So he's kind of, they say, "Anthro."

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I can't say the word "anthro per-."

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Anthropomorphic?

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So they're anthropomorphic.

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We're just going to leave it with Caitlyn saying it.

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Anthropomorphic.

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So he kind of does have a human appearance.

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He's got like, you know, a torso, legs, head, mouths, arms, the nose.

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And is there any?

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Yeah, I don't think he has ears or eyes.

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Doesn't look like it because all of them are mouths.

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Where those should be.

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So he's pretty horrifying, terrifying.

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Caitlyn did say it correctly when she said nightmare fuel.

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Yeah.

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His entire body is covered in mouths.

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His butts amount, his lower back is a mouth.

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His feet.

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His knees are a mouth.

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His knees, there's mouths placed randomly on his arms and legs and shoulders.

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He has a mouth where mouths go.

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He does have that.

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He's also got like the plague doctor sort of like I think is that his nose?

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That's his nose.

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Yeah, and it's very cute.

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Okay.

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And it does have that nostril.

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So he can sniff you out.

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It is quite sizable in terms of nostril size.

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It does remind me of substance a little bit.

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The substance.

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Yes.

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The end of the substance.

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If you guys haven't seen that, go watch it.

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And then look at beautiful baba wallet oxy way here.

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Oh, right.

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Oh, and they also have him kind of compared that little pink picture looks like they're

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comparing him to a human.

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So he's a little bit bigger.

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Well, he's a lot of bit bigger than a human.

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He's a lot of bit bigger.

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Yeah.

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His nose is basically the size of a human.

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They describe his mouth as gaping snapping bloody.

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And his call is hap hap hap, which means eat or something along those lines in that

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language.

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Oh, and the way I read hap hap was not as a word.

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I read it as in it on a monopoeia like a no, I read it as like an on a monopoeia sound

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like.

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Oh, I was making it yapier.

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Yeah.

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Look at dog.

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I was I was trying to tone it down a little bit.

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Yeah, yours makes here's makes more sense in light of the visual, which is kind of funny

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speaking of dogs because my dog used to make the sound when she was like being pissy and

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irritate and a little shit to me.

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And she was like, talk back and she would go, well, maybe she's got a little little cannibal

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in her.

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Fuck.

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I mean, she did like to lick the tune nibble me.

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So maybe.

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Well, maybe she was a nibble or we talked about it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Among a few variations in the spelling, there are also a few variations in the translation.

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He who first ate man at the mouth of the river or he who first ate humans on the water.

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Okay.

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The and this is a quote, the ever more perfect manifestation of the essence of humanity.

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That's poetic as fuck.

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Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of words like creepy words salad, but ever more perfect manifestation

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of the essence of humanity is this like we're all just walking around with these giant mouths

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just wanting shit from everybody, just trying to eat up everybody.

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Just worried about ourselves.

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I mean, if you turn it into like a metaphor, sure, I'm just saying like if you go down to

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the base and it's like ever more perfect and we're talking about a cannibalistic creature.

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Yeah.

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Not that feels those are those are contradicting delios.

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Yeah.

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My dude.

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I don't think it can be true.

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You've said it.

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Those two things cannot cannot cannot can be true.

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Okay.

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I don't that's a qualifier that I don't know I've ever agreed to.

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Well, I think we should all just take that and like I was like a journal prompt and just

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like journal about this for a little while because I just I want to know what everyone thinks.

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Okay.

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Or simply man eater.

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He's a man.

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He is also known by one other name.

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This is the name that actually really drew me to him.

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Cannibal at the north end of the world.

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Listen, I want things to be kind of neat and tidy.

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You got to give it a little pop, but I like that.

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That's good.

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Cannibal at the north end of the world.

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That's the one.

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Yeah.

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It's like be descriptive, but don't be like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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You know, you need a leader, you know, it could mean several different things.

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Okay.

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Cannibal is very clear.

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This is true.

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I think, you know, it's eloquent in its brevity.

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He could be going Nelly Furtado on everyone's ass.

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Ooh.

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So Mr. Man's eater here is the villain of the Hamat’sa or Cannibal Dance, which is the first

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most important and infamous dances of the Seca ceremony.

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I probably didn't say that totally correctly because it's like the chaos of weird mouth

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feel and I don't.

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I didn't get it right.

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But yeah.

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Seca.

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Seca.

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Seca.

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Seca or something.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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No, that can be hard because like some languages do have like this.

264
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And mouth feel is exactly the right word for it.

265
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It's like when you speak French, but you don't do the, you know, yeah.

266
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Yes.

267
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And it's like the quah quah, K-walk has like a W at the end of it that's supposed to be

268
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like, oh, and you're like, I'm trying.

269
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I'm so close.

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And to oh my gosh.

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And I found a YouTube video where actually someone was pronouncing all of the words.

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So I was crying just so hard.

273
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And I'm like, you say it's so much better than me.

274
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Yeah.

275
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And I just get like, can you come on our podcast?

276
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It's right.

277
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No, but it's like it's very difficult to actually train your mouth to like hit the syllables

278
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in the police sometimes.

279
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Mouth words are hard.

280
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Mouth words are hard.

281
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Hey, you can do the research.

282
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You can do the research and sometimes in the moment, the words that you say, it's like

283
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you don't hit quite the right like intonation or pronunciation.

284
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I hope I'm doing it right.

285
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I just refresh right before this, but we'll see.

286
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Yeah.

287
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And here's the thing is I think that everybody knows you're taking the time.

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You are making the effort.

289
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And I think that's the most important thing.

290
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We do, we do try to nail it whenever possible, but you know, and if someone speaks the

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language, please come on our show.

292
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Please, I would love to talk to you.

293
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Yeah, though it'd be so cool.

294
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I love to, I love to actually hear people in their native, you know, language and like hear

295
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it how it's supposed to be said and not, you know, butchered by us.

296
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Yeah.

297
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I also have a lot of questions like a lot of questions.

298
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I can only imagine.

299
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Canada outlawed the ceremony in 1885 because naturally.

300
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All of the organizers didn't understand it and found it too disturbing.

301
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Kate, when the cannibalism, yeah, the cannibalism thing, yeah, they kind of didn't get it.

302
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Yeah.

303
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No, and biologically we're kind of supposed to not, we shouldn't do it.

304
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Right.

305
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Definitely probably shouldn't do it.

306
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No, you definitely shouldn't.

307
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You definitely shouldn't.

308
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Like if you're trying to, hey, we don't, we don't judge, you know, the people that had

309
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to do it.

310
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But we, sure, survival is one thing.

311
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I would say with cultural traditions, we can respect that that was the culture, but also

312
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understand that those are things that can actually make people like fatally ill.

313
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Yeah.

314
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And I mean, I'm not even talking about cultural cannibalism or anything like that.

315
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I'm just talking about like, you know, the donor pass or the donnor party or whatever, like

316
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people that just had to do it to survive.

317
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But that is kind of a big misunderstanding with this whole thing and we'll go on and

318
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I'll explain what the ceremony is all about.

319
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So they did attempt to kind of erase it from history and they wanted them to assimilate

320
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into their culture and just kind of erase their whole.

321
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See.

322
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Pass.

323
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Like if we're just trying to, you know, make people safe, that's one thing.

324
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Right.

325
00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:06,400
But the erasure of their culture, that's where it becomes like, yeah, it's giving colonization.

326
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And then once I explain it to, I think you're going to be like, wait, what?

327
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They just truly didn't get it.

328
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,440
Oh, no.

329
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This is the story behind the Hamatsa ceremony and Baxbakwalanuksiwe’, the villain of the

330
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story.

331
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Four sons of the chief found the house of the man eater, Baxbakwalanuksiwe’.

332
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Oh, and of course they went inside, they checked it out.

333
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,520
It's that part in the horror movie where they go down into the basement, you know?

334
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Right.

335
00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,320
I just, yeah.

336
00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,880
Well then once inside they realized that the creatures in there were trying to eat them.

337
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You don't say.

338
00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:55,160
Like, Baxbakwalanuksiwe’ was probably like, did you not see like the man eater sign?

339
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Like, you're in my house, dude.

340
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My door mat literally says man eater, turn back.

341
00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,880
It kind of reminds me of like, Hansel and Gretel.

342
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,880
Yes.

343
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,880
Where they find like the witch's house.

344
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:11,880
Yeah.

345
00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,880
And then she wants to eat them.

346
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,880
Yeah.

347
00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,040
I mean, it's kind of a, it's a spin off.

348
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,720
Did we like, did we cancel, Hansel and Gretel?

349
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,720
Probably not.

350
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,720
Did we outlaw that story?

351
00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,720
No.

352
00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,760
Well, maybe I'm not actually sure the history on that.

353
00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,760
We'll come back to it.

354
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,760
Okay.

355
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,280
Anyway, so they didn't want to get ate.

356
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So they ran and they got chased all the way home by Baba Wollanoxiewe.

357
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But they didn't make some obstacles along the way to slow him down.

358
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Hmm.

359
00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,040
So they made it home in time to warn their father, the chief.

360
00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040
By the way, he was the chief.

361
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,040
I don't know if you heard of him.

362
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,040
The four sons of the chief.

363
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Princes, right?

364
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,040
They would be princes.

365
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,800
I don't know what chief sons are actually called, but in my mind, they're like spoiled little

366
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,800
princes.

367
00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,800
Yeah.

368
00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,800
I could be totally wrong.

369
00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,280
I don't know what their title would be in a thin sense.

370
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,280
It's fine.

371
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,280
Someone let us know.

372
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,080
They made it home in time to warn their father of what was like just coming right behind

373
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them.

374
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They're like, everybody should go.

375
00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,440
Oh.

376
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,440
Yes.

377
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,800
You brought this guy here to the village.

378
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,240
Daddy, we fucked up.

379
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,560
We don't fucked up.

380
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:27,360
The chief greets the cannibal very politely and is like, hey, you want to kill my kids?

381
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Like, that's fine.

382
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:36,480
But you should go back and like bring your wife and son with you so you can all just have

383
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a feast.

384
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:45,540
Oh, in the fourth and fifth grade version, it kind of just says, you know, he nicely just

385
00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:48,600
told them, hey, go back and get your wife and kid and come back.

386
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,960
He didn't mention anything about like, you can have my son.

387
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,320
They're like worthless anyway.

388
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,320
I don't need that.

389
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,320
Oh, okay.

390
00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,960
That was another version of the story I found, but I thought that was really funny.

391
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,960
No, that's what I'm getting like the spoiled prince vibe.

392
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,960
Yeah.

393
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:12,560
I will say I think I'm picturing the reaction of the spoiled princes and I'm just, I'm hearing

394
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,960
them.

395
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,160
We are so putting him in a home.

396
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,960
You know what I mean?

397
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,800
Like, dad, that is so fun.

398
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,800
Seriously.

399
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,960
But I think he was just kind of like trying to pull one over on Baxbakwalanuksiwe’

400
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,960
Oh, yeah.

401
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,680
I don't know why he, he listened to the chief.

402
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,680
He's like, oh, yeah.

403
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,680
My family could eat.

404
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,480
Well, let's go get the wife and kid.

405
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,960
Just probably get a bitch about dinner if I eat without her.

406
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,400
Honestly, that's thoughtful of you.

407
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,680
Can you imagine a little baby, Baba?

408
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080
I know.

409
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,480
It would still be bigger than me.

410
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,200
Not the mama.

411
00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:01,800
When he returns with his family, the chief invited him to sit on this beautiful new throne,

412
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,880
like not a throne, but like it's just a nice seat.

413
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,120
Like a guest seat, you know?

414
00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,120
Okay.

415
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,920
But like here's my throne.

416
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,440
You can be chief or anything.

417
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,080
Just like a nice seat for him to sit in.

418
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,600
It's like this, cause like a place of honor.

419
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,600
Right.

420
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,560
In their big, so I assume they don't need, they don't want like a normal human size chair.

421
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,240
They probably want like a big chair, right?

422
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,480
Yeah, that feels fair.

423
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,480
Yeah.

424
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,480
That's how I feel when I get on an airplane.

425
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,040
I don't want this normal human size chair.

426
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,840
I want first class size.

427
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,880
So they built him a first class size plain seat.

428
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,200
No, that's perfect.

429
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,000
I love that.

430
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,640
And they're all having kind of a good time.

431
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,960
Telling stories, it was like, hey, since you're here, we'll tell you a bunch of stories from

432
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520
our history and our people.

433
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,600
Love it.

434
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,880
And you can just chill.

435
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,200
And we'll entertain you.

436
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,480
And then eventually the guests fall asleep.

437
00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,960
You know, I don't know if they were.

438
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:00,960
They're having drinkies.

439
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,240
They didn't really, it wasn't really clear in here, but the, the, the Bob is all fall asleep.

440
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,240
Okay.

441
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,200
I was, I was going to say the guests as in the, the manators.

442
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,440
Yes, the manators.

443
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,440
Great.

444
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,440
Just needed to be real.

445
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,440
The cannibals at the north end of the world at the, at the north pole.

446
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,440
Cannibals at the north pole from Santa.

447
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,440
Excellent.

448
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,760
They're the labris.

449
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:32,560
As they slut the four sons who was the bait basically to get them to come back here.

450
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:41,280
They pulled apart the chairs, which were built specifically for the Boba family and underneath

451
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,240
the chairs was a huge pit of boiling water.

452
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,240
Oh, no.

453
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,520
So when they pull the chairs right off from under their booties, they're sleeping little booties

454
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,760
where they thought they were safe.

455
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,720
They were having a good time party.

456
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,840
They were, they were going to eat.

457
00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,640
They were going to have a great meal, but they ended up in a boiling pit of water.

458
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,640
And they died.

459
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,400
The whole family taken out in one night.

460
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,720
That is tragic.

461
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,840
It's like the red wedding all over again.

462
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840
That's what it totally reminded me of.

463
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,840
Yeah.

464
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,160
Like, hey, come over.

465
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,960
We're going to have a good time.

466
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,200
You want to hang out and our kingdom?

467
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,840
Jokes on you, you're dead.

468
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:26,560
Okay, so just a couple of thoughts notes.

469
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:33,960
How is it that you can position a ginormous chair over a pit of boiling water and no one notices?

470
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:40,760
Because I number one would have a very obvious sign atop my head that something in the atmosphere

471
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,760
was changing.

472
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,760
Right.

473
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,760
Yeah.

474
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,240
But I don't think the Bobbos have hair.

475
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,360
They look hairless to me.

476
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:50,360
So I mean, that's true.

477
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:56,040
Did they not yield their butt mounds getting a little moist?

478
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,880
Maybe it was a really deep pit.

479
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,200
I don't know, but they built that was like part of the reason they wanted to get them out

480
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,200
of there.

481
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,320
Because like, they're like, we need to come up with a plan to kill these guys for sure.

482
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,040
But build this pit while they're gone.

483
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,560
Excellent, excellent work in what I have to assume was a very quick turnaround.

484
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,640
And you know what, they're probably pretty moist because of all of those mounds.

485
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,560
They're just walking humidifiers anyway.

486
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560
So they just couldn't tell.

487
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560
And they don't have eyes so they can't see.

488
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,360
Okay, you know this about me.

489
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,240
I don't have a problem with the word moist.

490
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,640
What I do have, I take issue with erroneous moisture.

491
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,360
I simply can't.

492
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:51,760
I realize this shouldn't be the most upsetting part of the story, but I think I've just hit a wall.

493
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,960
And it's just like fuck the boiling water.

494
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,960
I'm done.

495
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:02,560
I said, okay, she brought me cannibalism and then moisture.

496
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,120
Well, I think I'm also going to fuck up your world a little bit more because there's more

497
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,000
of the stories that I mean, I assumed it wasn't over yet.

498
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000
So that's fine.

499
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:20,080
When the Baba family was murdered tragically in this horrible situation, backstabbing

500
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,920
manipulative bullshit.

501
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Their ashes scattered to the wind, transforming into mosquitoes.

502
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:38,080
Okay, that I do believe, which is why mosquitoes bite and suck your blood.

503
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:46,240
Honestly, that for me, that tracks, except they fell into a pit full of boiling water.

504
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720
So why would they touch ash?

505
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720
I don't know.

506
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,960
Super natural.

507
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:59,000
For serious, if you are a native speaker, if you are someone who just has familiarity with

508
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,200
the mythology, we have questions.

509
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,200
So many questions.

510
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,240
There was, it did say hot stones in boiling water.

511
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Like maybe it was just hot stones and no water.

512
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,960
And they were, or it just kept going.

513
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:20,960
They had like a roaring fire and all of the water eventually just evaporated off.

514
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Maybe.

515
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,680
And then, okay, wow, I'm really getting into this.

516
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,680
I know.

517
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,680
I'm very curious.

518
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:35,200
I was very curious to how the ash got into the sky from the water, but down in the pit

519
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,920
and it evaporated and all the ash evaporated into the clouds and then it rained.

520
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,720
Well, right, but I'm saying there wouldn't be ash if they were boiled to done.

521
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840
I meant like they're okay, so maybe ash isn't the word.

522
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,600
I'm thinking, okay, so their bodies disintegrated in the water, turned a sludge.

523
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,760
The sludge was evaporated into the clouds and then rained down little mosquitoes.

524
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,760
So I'm done.

525
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Oh my god.

526
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Neither of those is good.

527
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,040
I hate it.

528
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,040
I hate it.

529
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,040
It's all bad.

530
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,880
Oh, and

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,880
mosquitoes.

532
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,880
I forgot.

533
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:14,600
So you got a skin of a little bit of moisture and mosquitoes and that's three strikes.

534
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,600
You are.

535
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,600
It was your trifecta.

536
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,600
No, no, no.

537
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,600
It honestly is.

538
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,600
It honestly is.

539
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,200
Are there bees as well?

540
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600
No, there's no bees.

541
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:32,920
But after the death of the Baba family, the four sons went back to his house and they're

542
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:38,360
like, let's see if we can steal anything from the poor Baba family that we just murdered.

543
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:39,360
Well, sure.

544
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,880
Yeah, they don't need their stuff anymore.

545
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,160
So I hate to see it go to waste.

546
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:53,760
So they go and they steal a mask of he had a raven there, which was like a man eating raven

547
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,200
pet that he had.

548
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,200
Okay.

549
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,400
I think by virtue, all ravens can be man eating.

550
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,400
Right.

551
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,400
I know.

552
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,200
Valley cheer if you're dead.

553
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,200
Right.

554
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,200
How hard are they trying?

555
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960
That's why I brought my product today.

556
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Makes sense.

557
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,960
Makes sense.

558
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,680
They use the masks, these big old like bird beak masks in their ceremony to this day, the

559
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,680
Hamatsa ceremony.

560
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,240
So I'm going to describe the ceremony to you.

561
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,280
This was like outlawed for a really long time, which thankfully it's been brought in

562
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,720
back and it didn't actually get a raise from history and people are still talking about

563
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,320
it and learning about it.

564
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,960
And I'm going to tell you about it.

565
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:38,240
And it is an initiation ceremony that has changed a lot over time.

566
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,440
Obviously.

567
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:47,920
In the past, the initiate would go into the woods for sometimes months, mommy, yeah, months

568
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,720
and be possessed by Baba while in oxy way.

569
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Okay.

570
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:59,280
Well, if you're alone in the woods, I mean, yeah, that'll do things to you.

571
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Well, you might get possessed by the spirit of a candle.

572
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,280
Okay.

573
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:11,160
The initiate would return to their village in a highly erratic state, biting out and shouting

574
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,160
"Happappapp."

575
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,680
And healers would have to catch him and call him.

576
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,000
And was he just angry?

577
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,880
Did he need a snickers?

578
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,320
He might have been angry, but they, I mean, they say he was possessed by Baba while in

579
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,080
oxy way, the candle.

580
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,000
And so they would like kind of do an exorcism on him, basically.

581
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,560
They said the healers would calm him down, which I'm assuming is get the evil spirit out

582
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,560
of him.

583
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Yeah.

584
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800
They got a cleanse, the evil out of a bricky Bobby.

585
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480
And now, obviously, all of this is done symbolically.

586
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,640
They don't actually send someone out to the woods for months to get possessed.

587
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,640
Oh, wait.

588
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
So that doesn't happen anymore?

589
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000
No.

590
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Okay.

591
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Okay.

592
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Okay.

593
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000
That's fair.

594
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,440
What is the PTO for that?

595
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,440
I know, right?

596
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,000
And I think this is kind of why it got outlawed because they were seeing kind of part of it

597
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,320
and kind of getting part of the story.

598
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,480
And they're like, these people are just getting possessed and eating people like what is going

599
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,480
on.

600
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,480
But no, they weren't actually eating anybody.

601
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,360
They didn't know.

602
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,800
Perform cannibalism in these ceremonies.

603
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,000
The ceremony was because they're tried, defeated, a monster.

604
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:31,200
It gets all about them defeating this big bad monster in the woods and doing a celebration

605
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,200
about it.

606
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Okay.

607
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:40,440
So this is like the British Columbia First Nations version of the Satanic Panic.

608
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Kind of.

609
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Yeah.

610
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,440
My pearls.

611
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,440
Right.

612
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Like, look at them acting out and talking about cannibal.

613
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,480
We just don't understand.

614
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,480
We're too white.

615
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,480
Okay.

616
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,160
So literally the only cannibalism is only so far like defeated.

617
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,160
Yes.

618
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Yes.

619
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,160
Yes.

620
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:09,280
The mythological creature from the legend and the culture and which was basically explaining

621
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,280
why mosquitoes exist.

622
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Yeah.

623
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Which that feels fair because honestly, it makes sense.

624
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
I don't have a better explanation.

625
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,840
I was also being kind of silly about like, oh, they murdered this family of cannibalistic

626
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,840
monsters.

627
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240
I was being a little silly about that.

628
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Secious.

629
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Yeah.

630
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,000
And I didn't, I kind of want to bring that up because I'm like, wait, I don't want them

631
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,920
to think I'm trying to bash their, what they're actually celebrating here in this very

632
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:44,320
beautiful ceremony with these beautiful bird masks and like carved hand carved and other

633
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:51,040
regalia and music and dances that just celebrate this story from their history.

634
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,840
So I just sort of put that out there.

635
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320
I wasn't like making fun of them or anything.

636
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Yeah.

637
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,320
I just get silly.

638
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Yeah.

639
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,520
You're like, this is, I don't know if you've ever heard of it.

640
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,520
How you say sarcasm?

641
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Yeah.

642
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Kind of the kind of, but then I'm also like, I have that thing in me that like wants to root

643
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
for the thing everyone is scared of too.

644
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,080
So I'm always trying to figure out like that guy and like, hey, he has a wife and kids

645
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080
like, is he that?

646
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Well, that's so to BTK.

647
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Oh, the thing that doesn't mean nothing.

648
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:33,680
I also had a thought is Bob a well and oxy way actually a cannibal because he's not human.

649
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Yes.

650
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Oh my God.

651
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,360
That has been bothering me so much this whole time because I was like, or are we the

652
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,360
same species?

653
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,360
Yeah.

654
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:47,200
And I looked, I mean, I looked up the definition of cannibal and it says, you know, eating your own

655
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,200
kind.

656
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,200
So I don't know.

657
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Maybe they, maybe they had a different word that just doesn't quite translate into English.

658
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Yeah.

659
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,520
Like, maybe they don't actually mean cannibal.

660
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,520
I don't know.

661
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,520
But they could.

662
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,520
Yeah.

663
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Or maybe there's some sort of a like, you know, Spider-Man, well, I mean, he was Peter then,

664
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,040
but you know when he gets big, like origin story.

665
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,040
Like origin story.

666
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Yes, origin story.

667
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,560
Yeah.

668
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360
But they do, I mean, they call him like a man eater and stuff.

669
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:26,400
So I mean, maybe they're coming from the fact that they're men and he's kind of manlike.

670
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Like he has manlike mouths and things.

671
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,040
A lot of manlike mouths, mouths of those.

672
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,000
So if we're going to put it back into like Peter Parker terms, and I think we should, because

673
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
it's a fun thought experiment right now.

674
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:50,040
This is sort of what I pictured when I had like a occupational exposure in a dental office.

675
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320
I'm like, that's what's going to happen to me.

676
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,840
I'm just going to be a guy with mouths all over like radiation.

677
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,760
No, I mean, I like, I wasn't exposed to like radioactive toxic goo or anything.

678
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,760
Just like other people's cooties.

679
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,760
So.

680
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Oh, okay.

681
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,760
That's good.

682
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,760
I was like kind of worried about you for a second.

683
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,120
I'm like, wait, you were well, but radiation is in like X-rays and stuff.

684
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,520
So that's not that weird.

685
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Exactly.

686
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Well, are you ready to do some tarot?

687
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Yeah.

688
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,160
I think I need like a 10 second like head star on tarot.

689
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Are you running?

690
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Yeah.

691
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Are you running from Baba while in oxy ways?

692
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,440
You can get to your father in time to warn him so you can make a trap.

693
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,480
Yeah, he's a pretty long walk to Florida.

694
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,160
So that's true.

695
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Yeah.

696
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Okay.

697
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:47,360
So I have shuffled a ton.

698
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,440
And then I'm going to put my mic down because I don't have a mic stand.

699
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,600
So Caitlin's going to talk while I pick the card.

700
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,840
So she's fanning out the deck very, I would say dramatically.

701
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,160
I think she's fingering it right now.

702
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,920
Baba while in oxy ways.

703
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,920
It was me.

704
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,920
I will not.

705
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920
It's it.

706
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Baba.

707
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Is that still right?

708
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,920
I thought it was Bach Bach.

709
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,920
Oh, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Baba.

710
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Okay.

711
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:25,920
So I, yeah, so I was saying Baba, I meant Bach Bach because they did find the first pronunciation

712
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,400
I found because it was a struggle before I found the videos.

713
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,400
They were saying Baba.

714
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000
So Baba while in oxy way.

715
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Which is so clear.

716
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,480
Because I might say Bach's back.

717
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,480
But I wouldn't just say Baba.

718
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,840
B-A-X based on the standard spelling.

719
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,760
They sound like they knew what they were talking about.

720
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,840
They said like that's what the sound makes in this language.

721
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
So I was like, all right, you must be right.

722
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,560
And then I found someone actually saying it.

723
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,080
So I, I'm going to go with the person who was actually saying it, who I could tell was

724
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080
from like a native speaker.

725
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Culture?

726
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,080
So sorry, yes.

727
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Let's see it right.

728
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,080
Bach Bach while in oxy way.

729
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,440
I do realize too I was saying the Baba family.

730
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,840
I'm at the Bach Bach family when I shortened it.

731
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,800
Because I think when I went through and changed my pronunciations, I missed a couple.

732
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680
So sorry, it's Bach Bach, not Baba.

733
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,960
We got just the imagery of it.

734
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,160
It is the seven of ones.

735
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,640
And it is a bird up on a cliff.

736
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Interesting.

737
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Okay.

738
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,320
It reminded me of the pit of boiling water.

739
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,320
Oh.

740
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Because like at the bottom.

741
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,440
There's like birds kind of, there doesn't, doesn't look like they're falling into a pit,

742
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,440
but they're kind of beautiful.

743
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Yeah, I mean, you could interpret the image that way.

744
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Okay, so that's interesting because I will say just based on just pure vibes, I would have

745
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,120
expected maybe some sort.

746
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Right.

747
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,400
Some teeth by maybe one of the major arcana.

748
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,880
But we got ones.

749
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,400
So seven of ones.

750
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,880
The crow tries to defend his territory at the top of the mountain.

751
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,960
The approaching crows below are all too eager to knock him down and take his spot.

752
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,480
This card is a reminder that although you've made it, you must not be complacent as there

753
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,320
will be those who believe your position should be theirs.

754
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,360
The seven of ones ask that you remain self-confident and have courage when facing challenges.

755
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,680
It won't always be easy at the top that you've earned the right to be there.

756
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Okay.

757
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,480
I mean, I don't know.

758
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,200
It was all about defeating a monster.

759
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,120
I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

760
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Have courage facing the challenges.

761
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560
They had to like hide performing their sacred.

762
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Like this was like one of the most sacred ceremonies they have and they got outlawed.

763
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,440
Like they could go to prison for performing it.

764
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,720
So like they had to find a way to keep that alive while it was outlawed and then like bring

765
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:03,520
it back to life later on so that their future ancestors could still have it.

766
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,520
I don't know what you call that.

767
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,520
Right.

768
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Yeah.

769
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,520
No.

770
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,520
I mean, you're progeny.

771
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Yeah.

772
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Yeah.

773
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,520
God.

774
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,520
Why people suck.

775
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,520
They're right.

776
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,520
It's wrong with us, you guys.

777
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Well, okay.

778
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,000
So here's the thing is I say that because it's funny.

779
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,080
It's colonized.

780
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,680
And oppressors suck.

781
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Right.

782
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Sometimes I know we say that and we kind of assume that you all know what we mean.

783
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,600
Just to clarify, feels weird to start doing it now at four years in, but you know.

784
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,600
I don't care.

785
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Fuck them.

786
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,600
Love you guys.

787
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Yeah.

788
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Caleb, you bye.

789
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Okay.

790
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:49,960
So our keywords are courage fighting for what you believe in and facing challenges.

791
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Wow.

792
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Do I even need to read the rest?

793
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Yeah.

794
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Like the whole story of Baba will knock, knock, knock, see way in like the four sons and

795
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,600
the chief just saying, feels like it's pretty on the note.

796
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,640
When the seven of wands appears in a reading, you may need to stand up for yourself and

797
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,640
fight for what you believe in.

798
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,960
You can't confront you, but you possess the resources to succeed.

799
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,960
They did.

800
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,080
They put all those obstacles in the way they built a trap.

801
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Yeah.

802
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:35,400
They have those fancy chairs that nobody can feel the moisturizing up their bungholes.

803
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,200
I think of this as the don't give up card.

804
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Wow.

805
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Immediately, I was like, I give up because cannibalism.

806
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,200
You have to understand it.

807
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Then it's not so scary.

808
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,800
Well, the monster part still scary.

809
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,120
That's why they killed us.

810
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:02,520
I feel like it's very representative of a lot of things that feel very real right now.

811
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,040
You just have to understand how to defeat the beast.

812
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,240
When this card appears, you may need to fend off competitors or enemies to achieve your

813
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,240
objective.

814
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:19,040
Even if the challenges are formidable, you can overcome them.

815
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,040
The seven encourages you to stay strong and focus your will to win the struggle.

816
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Wow.

817
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Yeah.

818
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Like that literally keeps saying it, but that's what that whole like initiation ceremony

819
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,160
is about.

820
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,040
I mean, it really is.

821
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Yeah.

822
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,800
When you're reading about money, this card tells you to hold firm in a financial matter, even

823
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,840
if things appear difficult, a present, avoid arguments about money or possessions.

824
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,840
So maybe don't let your dad over here.

825
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,680
That thing about we are so putting him in a home.

826
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Right.

827
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Because he didn't mean it.

828
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,680
He was just using them as bait.

829
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Yeah.

830
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,680
For sure, Z's.

831
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Oh my God, you're going to absolutely shit when I get to the extra excerpt, I think.

832
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,320
I'm eating my fingers right now.

833
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,840
I'm cannibalizing myself.

834
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,640
I'm so glad I could help.

835
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Interbreeding about work, the upright seven advises holding your ground.

836
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Try to keep your spirits up and don't show weakness.

837
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,840
Oh, whoa.

838
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Keep working diligently for what you want.

839
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Don't let other people distract you.

840
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Yeah.

841
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Don't at the Bach Bach family.

842
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:36,120
They got distracted by all the nice stories and the nice seating and they just got so cozy

843
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120
and they went right.

844
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Nine, nine.

845
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Interbreeding about love, this card recommends trying to work things out with a partner instead

846
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,680
of swabbling.

847
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,400
Maybe about your dinner plan.

848
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,360
Go get your wife the first time and the shit wouldn't happen.

849
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,360
I don't know, maybe.

850
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,640
She'd probably be smarter and be like, um, yeah, we're just going to eat right now.

851
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,680
I've got some things on this.

852
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,000
Um, it may seem easier to just give up, but if you keep a positive attitude, you can resolve

853
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
difficulties.

854
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Okay.

855
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:16,360
When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.

856
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Hang on.

857
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:25,040
They should have had a rope to pull them out of the boiling pit of water.

858
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,640
It's an FDR quote.

859
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,360
Oh, front of the pot.

860
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Yeah, front of the pot, obviously.

861
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:41,920
I just love that this was all about like a cultural, like story and like, you know, the mythology

862
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,360
and not about actual cannibalism.

863
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,360
Yeah.

864
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Because I've been eating dinner yet and I wouldn't do you that dirty.

865
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,560
You, you guys, I am not kidding.

866
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,880
And I say that she has been building this up for at minimum a week and she made it sound

867
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,840
like I was never going to sleep or eat again.

868
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,840
And I wasn't sure which or why.

869
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,840
I mean, I am pretty 100% sure that you're going to have a nightmare about Mr. Teathman.

870
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,120
Now, the teacher really bothered me as much as you would think.

871
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:25,400
Honestly, for some people, listen, if if if teeth are in any way for you uncomfortable,

872
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,200
maybe don't look up the the visual.

873
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Please look at it.

874
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Please go to the sources and look at it.

875
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:42,160
It's only uncomfortable when it's in like the context of like this man eating beast, I

876
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,160
think.

877
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,160
Yeah.

878
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:51,720
Well, upsetting and troubling either way, I should clarify that it's it's upsetting looking.

879
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,640
It's unsettling.

880
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,720
But yeah, no, like, let's be clear.

881
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:02,400
The no no for me here is cannibalism not the real cannibalism.

882
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,400
Yeah, yeah.

883
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,520
No, the teeth are like whatever I've seen.

884
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Listen.

885
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:14,080
I've seen so many teeth have so many things done to them, including just yank and a

886
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,080
mouth.

887
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,600
You're not going to get me that way.

888
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,840
But that's just a lot of mouths.

889
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,840
I mean, we talked about it.

890
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,440
It's so all that all that moisture.

891
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Do you think he has wisdom teeth?

892
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Walking humidifier.

893
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Yeah, I think so.

894
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,320
That's all I have for cannibals this time.

895
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,320
Wow.

896
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,400
Have a creepy ass day.

897
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Okay.

898
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,160
Unless you're off.

899
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Be a cannibal.

900
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,160
I don't know.

901
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,160
I'm sure you're vegan.

902
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,880
I'm a vegan cannibal.

903
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Is that a thing?

904
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,880
That can't be a thing.

905
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,880
You know, I'm a little sure of plan.

906
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,720
Oh, we wink.

907
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:00,240
Anyway, should we say goodbye?

908
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:01,520
Because we're not really talking.

909
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Oh fuck.

910
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,520
Yeah, that's true.

911
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,720
Yeah, we should probably stop recording.

912
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,200
Well, we have to say goodbye.

913
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Oh, fuck, we didn't say goodbye.

914
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,520
No, that's why we're still recording.

915
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Oh, Jesus.

916
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,520
I wish you wouldn't let me go on about pineapple and steaming like that.

917
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,280
What are you going to do?

918
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,280
What are you going to do?