Sapporo, Japan Sister City Haunt

0:00 As the first woman scanned the other from top to bottom, as you do, she noticed she was wearing a white dress. Probably a pretty odd choice of outfit for a nighttime stroll, but as she continued her gaze down, she realized something even more strange. The woman had no legs! I was just picturing no feet, I don't know why. No legs, no legs at all. Oh, she was just a floating torso. I was trying to do a spooky voice and it didn't come out.

0:45 That is... Let me try again. Okay. I'll retry it. Take two. Okay. Hello! How is that? That's spooky? No. It was kind of cartoony. Okay, but we'll keep it anyway. All right. It was better than the first one. It's debatable. Oh, hello Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Or cartoon people. Cartoon creepy people, creepy papers. This is PNW Haunts and Homicides. Yes, oh my god.

1:25 I almost forgot why we were here. We're here. We're here. And it's almost Halloween bitches. We're here. All right. All right. In the words of the iconic Ashnikko pumpkin spice this pussy baby. Oh happy Halloween. I don't need a costume because I'm already a freak. How long? Let's do it. Wowzers. I'm wearing her shirt today. I see that. Did you notice mine? Were you wearing that last time we reported? I might have been. I really like it. You called out. Yeah. I think I've only worn this t-shirt twice.

2:06 I really like it. I saved it for Halloween. The spooky tarot card. Yeah. So if you're Patreon, you'll get to see her shirt later. Well, today I'm going to do something I've never done before. In honor of this special occasion. I don't like the look on your face right now. I'm really excited. And I'm going to try really hard not to get overly excited. Talk really fast, high pitched, mess everything up. Okay. So I'm going to try to tone it down even though I'm really excited on the inside of like jumping over now. Yeah, I don't appreciate your tone. I'm going to scare Caitlyn.

2:48 But no, you're going to like this too. I don't like this surprise. So let's just say we're going on an adventure to a sister city. Oh, my goodness. I did it. You did it. Are you so proud? I am. I did it just for you. I do not see that coming at all. I didn't think so. Yeah. I was like, what's happening? I had a stroke of genius the other day. And I rolled with it. So. Okay. I'm just going to try to get a little bit more excited. We're going. Can you guess? Do you know all of the sister cities of Portland? Not off the top of my head. But I have you. Root.

3:28 Guadalajara. No. Okay. We're going to Sapporo, Japan. Really? Yes. How excited are you? So did you know that this is the longest sister city partnership for Portland? I did not. Yeah. I didn't either until I read it on this website and I wrote it down. I told everyone else. It's kind of our thing. Yeah. It's pretty cool. So I was thinking I wanted to do some super spooky vibes for Halloween. And I was thinking about one of my favorite movies, The Ring, which is filmed right here in the PNW. Yeah. No, thank you. You don't like it?

4:08 No. And here's what's wild is I've actually seen The Ring. Oh, it's when she's seen. Yeah, it gave me nightmares forever. I loved it. It also made me not want to sleep with a TV in my room, but yeah. You know, that's fine. I lived. That's how I fall asleep at night. Oops. You'll know why if I look real tired on the live tomorrow. Oops. Core memory unlock. Yeah. Well, did you know the original is a Japanese film called Ringoo? Yes. Yes. You know, one and a were I heard that maybe think it was on DP.

4:48 Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've like mentioned. I know they talked about it. Yeah. So I was just like, hmm, things started cooking up there in the old Noggin and wrap. Yes. The old wrap. So I went and searched up a Japanese sister city. I actually found one which was super exciting. On my first try. I was just like, let's try Portland. They might have a Japanese sister city and they totally did. Sure do. And it just so happens to be haunted as fuck. Keeping with the PNW vibes. Mm-hmm. Her face is so funny.

5:30 So before I scare the crap out of you, Caitlyn, I wanted to touch on some quick little historical things. I just couldn't help it. We all know how that goes. Okay. Although they do celebrate Halloween in Japan, they don't see it as kind of the thinning of the veil, quite like we do, you know, where souls can cross over and all that jazz. They have another holiday for this. It's in August actually. It's called Obon. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard of Obon. I never have. I've heard of Obon culture and it is. I'm trying. This is where I'm learning. Yeah. Yeah.

6:10 No, I mean, I don't know very much about it, but it sounds really interesting. Well, this is a time for them to honor ancestors with altars and offerings, visiting resting places, performing traditional dances and using lanterns to guide ancestral souls. Yeah. I think it's really sweet. It is super sweet. Not totally unlike kind of the tradition of day of the day. Yeah. That's what it reminded me of. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought it was cool. The lanterns too. They like used the floating ones and release them. Yeah. It sounds really pretty. So pretty. So I just thought that was cool. And I didn't want to visit Japan on Halloween without learning a bit, a little bit about their culture.

6:51 So yeah. And I wanted to give you a little buffer to prepare for what's to come. Cool. Great. Alrighty. I'm going to take you on a little ghost tour of Sapporo, if you will. I won't. No, I'm taking you with me. I'm dragging you, kicking and screaming. We'll be talking about quite a few places. Okay. Okay. So this text I used is translated from Japanese. It's called Sapporo Ghost Map Guide. I'm hoping there's no misinterpretations here. I mean, I certainly didn't translate it. Cause we'd be in big trouble. So I'm sure they're professionals, but I wanted to give the little warning.

7:34 Just in case I say something wrong, you're like, that's not what happens in Sapporo. Okay, Caitlyn, what do you think about when you picture a spooky haunted place? Ghosts like like a haunted house with like spooky trees and fog and stuff like that? Sure. I try not to picture it. I was just going to say that before you. Well, what, what about a subway maintenance garage? Yeah, that sounds like a good setting for haunted, spooky stuff. Really, do you think? Yeah. It didn't sound super spooky to me, but I'm going to paint you a word picture.

8:17 Okay. So it's dark. It's damp. That's literally what I thought of. Was it gets a dark damp place? Echo, echo, echo, walking through row after row of deserted trains. Are we getting there? I mean, yeah. Also, I don't know why I think it's damn. Does it rain a lot in Japan? Um, different parts of Japan do kind of get a lot of rain. I mean, probably not as much as like Portland or Seattle, but yeah. Okay. I don't know for sure if this maintenance garage is in fact damp, but that's what I'm picturing in my head anyway back to the story.

8:59 There's going to be a lot of Japanese names. I looked up the pronunciations, but you know how it goes. So sure do in this particular subway garage between Jieitai Mae and Makomanai stations. Excellent. I did pretty good. Okay. Very good. report feeling uneasy in the empty trains. Yeah. Yeah, I bad. Some have even reported hearing voices in one instance, a woman's voice was heard, but only four men were working that night, and no way for anyone else to be in there with them without them knowing. No. No, yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah, no. Yeah. Get Midwestern. Now, there had been occasions where people would sadly jump onto the tracks and die by suicide. Yeah. I guess the spookiness and the voices got so bad that the employees finally made a complaint to the city. And they actually had a Buddhist priest come in and cleanse the garage. Oh geez. Yeah. This did help a little, but disembodied voices can still be heard from time to time. Okay. So I said cleanse here because that's kind of what I inferred from the text. If it's not something that a Buddhist priest would do, please forgive my whiteness. There is only so many rabbit holes I can go down in one day. So yeah, for sure. I mean,

10:32 you could, I'm, you could interpret it as being like a cleanse or maybe offering a blessing. Yeah, something. I don't know. I think those are not necessarily interchangeable, but sort of related. Okay. I just went like what, what I thought about in my mind, someone clearing out a space or making it more positive than it was. So yeah, something like that occurred. I think that makes sense. Good. So next we're visiting a park that I could not find a pronunciation for. So I'm just going to try my best and we're going to see how it goes. So this is Jidensha Park. I think that's a pretty good pronunciation. Okay. I guess that I'm certainly no expert, but I try. Yeah. If anyone does speak Japanese and wants to tell me how to pronounce this, feel free. Yeah. I won't be offended. Yeah. That's so tough to when you can't find a pronunciation guide. Yeah. There was like nothing on this. Yeah.

11:35 You're like, I don't want to butcher it. But you know, it's just you're best. As she it's such a pretty language too. So it is. Yeah. You're just stalling with all of the language talk here because you don't want to get to what's in this park. No, I was really curious because I was wondering if it was a park I like heard of. Oh, there's so many places in Japan that I want to go. No. This probably isn't one of them though. I don't think it's like a very big well-known park. Okay. During the day, this park is bustling with all of the park type people, you know, joggers, stroller pushers, dog walkers, picnickers, frisbee throwers, you know, the type, joggers. Ew. What are they doing? I'm more in line with the picnickers. Yeah.

12:25 Some wine and cheese. I'm just fresh off research about a jogger. So right. Yeah. There's also plenty of housing around this park. So it's not secluded by any means. That's unusual. Yeah. I mean, just for a place that's haunted. I think it's just like a neighborhood park. Okay. But at night, things shift from a lively atmosphere to a deadly one. It'll like it. Legend has it that one night a woman was walking through the park at midnight. Now, I know what you're thinking. No, it's not Cinderella. This woman had both of her shoes and clearly no fairy godmother there to protect her. Okay. Well, that was not at all where my head went.

13:16 Okay. So she comes across another woman walking in the park as the first woman scanned the other from top to bottom as you do. She noticed she was wearing a white dress. Probably a pretty odd choice of outfit for a nighttime stroll. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about that. Unless it was summer, maybe? I don't know. Well, in white for a park? I don't know. Okay. Sorry. It seems odd. But as she continued her gaze down, she realized something even more strange. The woman had no legs. I was just picturing no fee. I don't know why. No legs. No legs at all.

14:01 She was just a floating torso. Okay. With arms and a head in a white dress. That's a real choice. That's the real fashion statement. It's something. So super creepy. I don't like it. So moving along in the ghost tour in the Higashi-Ku ward of Sapporo, there is a road that is said to be a pathway between the mortal world and the spirit world. Okay. So just like tell my uber driver like avoid that one. Yeah. Avoid that road. Don't go down that road. Okay. So you'd probably think this is a deserted country road. Yeah. Included, isolated, also picturing damp.

14:52 But no, it's right in the midst of a residential neighborhood. Oh. Okay. And I definitely don't understand street names or addresses in Japan. They do give the location, but I don't know enough to relay this information to you without another crazy rabbit hole. If you're curious, the link is in the paste bin in the show description. All right. And I will say this because I told you Chris has been to Japan. I don't know that he's been, he I think pretty much just went to Tokyo, but he said it was a very confusing city to get around.

15:36 I could see that. Yeah. And he had a really funny story about how they lost his brother on the subway. Yeah. Because those doors are not like when you get on the max here where like, oh, it feels like somebody trying to like put their hand in between the door. Doesn't have a sense. Well, and it could be totally different now. It probably is for safety, but back then, because this was, I mean, dating Chris here a little bit. This was like 20 years ago. Oh, the doors are like, they just are like, we're closing. Like they they run on schedule. So the doors be closed and bitch. Get out. Yes, move, bitch. Get out the way. So yeah, the younger brother was the only one that got on the subway. And everybody else just watched and horror as like their dad tried to like get on it. And then as it like just rolled on by. Oh my god. Hopefully you didn't end up end up in the maintenance garage.

16:39 I don't think so, but they had to race to another subway station. And it was really confusing trying to figure out like, okay, where does that train go and all this stuff? So I mean, I've met his brother. Like he made it out, but it's okay. Okay. A word to the wise don't take navigating through Japan lightly. Oh, no. Okay. One night. Can you guess what time? Midnight. It's midnight. Okay. I was always midnight. I already had my second guest prepared and it was 3 a.m. It's always midnight in Japan. Okay. A man was walking. Oh my god. A man was walking. No. Yeah. A man was walking down this road. Like he had a thousand times before with no incident. I really don't know if it was exactly a thousand times, but they said he knew the road roughly. Yeah, roughly. Give her take. I took some artistic liberties here. Yeah. That's fair. This time though, he started to feel like it was hard to walk. Like something was holding him back. No, perhaps tugging on the back of him. No, thank you. Then from behind, he heard what sounded like a little girl say, "Will you play with me?" Hard pass.

18:06 When he turned around, he indeed saw that there was a little girl there and thought it was very strange for her to be out so late. And as he was probably about to ask where her parents were, she disappeared. Oh, okay. So then he didn't ask. He didn't get a chance to ask. He was just like, there's a little girl and now there's not. Okay. Poof. I mean, I'd prefer that she was not there and being creepy. So maybe that's okay. I mean, I'd prefer that she was visible because she... Will you play with me? And then she's gone. Is she playing hide and seek? Where did she go? Where did she hide? Is she going to pop out of the shower later? No.

18:55 Why would she do that? Just because everything comes and sneaks up on you when you're in the shower? Yeah, I don't think so. No. People in their homes along this road are apparently not immune to the spiritual and against either. A resident's door might slowly creak open to let disembodied boots in to stomp around. I'd prefer that that they didn't. Why is it always just boots? You know, like we've heard that a couple of times. I feel like before or high heels. Yeah. But it's always like there's no one you can't see anyone walking in them, you know? Right. Those are your choices though. You either wear those stilettos or you're wearing like steel-toed boots. Yeah.

19:45 These are your options. Or even something more sinister and reminiscent of our sex demon episode. Okay. I'm listening. Residents have experienced waking up in the middle of the night, Probsman night, to the feeling of something on top of them. No, no, I'm out. I'm out. Goodbye. I told you it was reminiscent of the sex demon episode. I mean, you did say that, but opening their eyes to see a ragged menacing samurai warrior. That's it's intense. That's very intense. And I have to say it's very unsavory like behavior. Exactly. I think that's why it's so scary.

20:34 The next one sounds like a lovely place called Falls of Peace in the Teine ward. Do I say that? Okay. Yeah. Okay. We just looked it up. Yeah. It comes with a mountainous backdrop and all of the foliage, a picturesque waterfall could ask for. That reminds me of like silver falls. Yeah. Yeah. It me too. It sounds really, really gorgeous. But now I'm going to bring you right back down to Earth and shatter your soul with a trigger warning for suicide. I know I briefly touched on it a bit in the beginning, but we're unfortunately going to be talking about it a bit longer with this one. So, who is this place sort of reminds me of Aokigahara, aka the suicide forest. I watched a document, well actually more than one documentary about it. I was hard to watch. It's really tough. There's a really scary movie about it too.

21:42 Yeah, I haven't watched that. It's terrifying. Don't watch it. Yeah. I won't. It's really scary. You guys like good advice. I watched it alone. I'm pretty sure. Because I'm a lunatic. Yeah, we're just kind of very different. Very. Okay. Apparently many, many people of all kinds come here to tragically and their lives by jumping from the falls. There was also one instance where someone doused themselves with gasoline and lit themselves on fire. Oh no. The self-emilation deaths in some Asian cultures are just really, really rough. It is. It's a lot.

22:29 That's actually what the word they used to describe it in the article. Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't know. Sometimes using that technical or scientific jargon, it feels a little better. You kind of distance from what that, when you boil it down, what that is. I guess I kind of wanted to use it, but I was like, they used it. I kind of like trying to write it my own way. So, yeah, and not everybody knows what that is either. I think it's good to kind of explain it. I'm not going to lie. I kind of like figured what it meant, but I also had to Google it just in case. Well, it's not a commonly used word. I mean, if it was, that would be terrifying. Yeah.

23:14 It's not good. No one knows why people choose this place, whether it's the beautiful, calming environment, or perhaps the land holds some residual energy from the past, affecting people who are already vulnerable. Yeah. There is a monument at the falls for enslaved Koreans who were forced to work in the mines. Yeah. I mean, kind of similar to the forest where people don't really have one solid explanation, but could be anything could be anything. As you can imagine, there was a lot of anger and despair associated with that time running water. I feel like it's also a huge energy source, and it could be continuously stirring up these past memories. And on top of all of that, you have these new people leaving their own anger and despair when they pass. That's true. It's kind of like a cycle, I feel like. Yeah. Almost like a snowball as it's rolling downhill.

24:20 So as much as I do want to visit and see how pretty it is, it's kind of spooky. Yeah, that's really intense. Sorry to bring everyone down on Halloween. This text also suggests that if you visit any of these places, just sprinkle yourself with salt before going into your home. I'd say probably before going into your car too, or maybe just doubt yourself with salt the whole time. Yeah, just just in case. Wowzers. Yeah. I think probably you just can't really overdo it. Yeah. They're afraid something might attach to you. So no, thank you. You can also use any of the other various protective measures we've talked about. Like certain crystals. I can't think of the ones off the top of my head. I think that like, termaline, right? Probably be good example.

25:18 Tourmaline, like, tourmaline, any of the protective things. Honestly, if you just have something that you feel like is protective. And if you're curious, you can google it or we do talk about a couple of them in the cleansing episode too, I think. So yeah, we do. You can use smoke too. Yeah. I mean, if something does follow you home, definitely refer to the cleansing episode. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, Caitlyn. I have one last special story just for you. Yay. You didn't think you'd get away without talking about dolls today. Did you? What the? Surprise is just keep coming for Caitlyn on this.

26:01 Very special Halloween season. All right. Sorry. I'm going to be a little horse through the rest of this episode as I insert my knees into my chest. Sapporo, Japan has its very own haunted doll. In 1918, a boy named Eikichi Suzuki, like the car. Yeah. So I could pronounce that one without looking it up. Yeah. I know. We got an easy one. Yeah. Gave his little sissy, Okiku, a doll is a gift. Isn't that the cutest little name for the girl? I love it. Very sadly, though, Okiku passed away at three years old from an illness. Oh, I know. Her family placed her favorite doll on an altar in their home. They begin to notice something strange about the doll, though. Her hair was growing.

27:02 No, no, they even had the hair tested and it was human. No, which I know is definitely a thing they used to do in doll making, but because they actually noticed that the hair was getting longer, the family believed the doll housed the soul of their precious Okiku. Today, the doll lives in a temple shrine. The monks taking care of her there confirmed the unusual hair growth. Very uncomfortable. She's so uncomfortable.

27:45 She didn't do anything mean. Her hair was just growing. Okay. She just sat in there, being a doll. Okay, but I'm a living person and I can barely get my hair to grow out. So now I'm just, and now I'm angry. No, I'm just see this is what happens. You become sad and angry and confused. I don't like it. Maybe you should go talk to her and ask her her secrets. Now, I, you know, maybe I'll shoot her an email. Okay. No, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure she takes email in the temple. Well, on that note, that is all I have for now, for Sapporo, Japan, Portland's Sister City.

28:33 That was so fun. I know. I really like learning more about Japan. I really want to go. Yeah. Really, really, really want to go. We're going to take a pod trip to the sister city. Right? Seriously, I wanted to go as an exchange student. So now we do right off. Yeah. So there you go. Perfect. Well, shall we do some tarot to row? Let's do it. Okay. Welcome to this episode of "Shuffle" with Cassie and Caitlyn. Look at that. It's sort of shuffle.

29:14 So we are thinking of haunted ass Sepuro, Japan. Haunted AF. Dolls and legless lady ghosts and I'm not. Do you want to play with me? No. Okay. Spooky subway maintenance garages and sandwiches. There were sandwiches. Subway. Oh, I was like, did we talk about sandwiches and I missed it? No.

29:57 We are going to cut the deck. I feel like you need to just touch it for a second. Give it your scared vibes. Touch it. Touch it. She's so scared. Oh, look at it. Cut. You guys can see it. It cut and this feels right. Okay. It's this one. What? It's the fool. I went silent because I'm, I'm no longer surprised when this pops out at me. It happens all the time. And yeah, so we're using my nightmare before Christmas deck and this is the fool with Jack walking with his doggy zero. Yes. So cute. It's so cute. I mean, do we even need to read the Oh, it's an uproar. Yeah. Do I say this? I think I already said it. I don't know. I know.

30:58 But your little spooky ghost crystal right there. That's yours. I know, but I got it. And then with me in a minute, definitely was like, Oh, did it mean for me to get this? It's cute because I'm in love with it. It's fine. You just need a daily reminder of me. I guess it was a birthday gift that I bought for myself. But you're welcome. Anyway, the fool for Suburo Japan. All right. So our keywords are innocence beginnings, trust, hope, opportunity. And also Caitlin clearing her throat. That kind of sounds like a sister city, though.

31:44 Yeah. It kind of does. Yeah. Well, in innocence, I write away latch onto the little girl. The first card in the major arcana, the fool begins your journey toward wisdom. The fool represents innocent and faith. The naive confidence of youth shown as a young traveler. Well, I won't read the rest of the description because honestly, it's not that far off. But but young travel travel too is interesting because we talked about the subway. Right. Well, unjust the fact that like for us, we're traveling to a two-digit fandom. Yeah.

32:27 Oh, cool. This is so funny. Okay. So this is one way that the fool is totally different for us in this context. I don't know how you pronounce this name, but I'm going to take a shot. Okay. So there's a tiny mini extra excerpt and it says a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, which reminds me of the city on or the the part of the story where we talked about that road. And I said a thousand times he had been on that road. Well, in holding him back. Yeah. So that's a quote, a tribute to Lao Zoo. Interesting. Oh, interesting. Okay.

33:12 Upright, when the fool appears in a reading, it usually means you're about to embark, to embark on a new way of life. You're open to new experiences and to discovering what lies around the bend. Yeah. Even if you're not sure about the path you've chosen, you have faith that everything will turn out well. You probably feel out of sync with the rest of the world, but in a good way. You hear the beat of a different drummer and you're ready to march to it. Yeah. Okay. In a reading about money, the fool urges caution. You may be too trusting or you may be naive when it comes to handling financial matters. And this card can also represent the first stage of a business or investment, examine details carefully, pay attention to your intuition, not only logic.

34:15 So when we're planning our Japan trip from pod, you just got to like be careful and plan it out, which we usually do. Yeah. I think the receipts. Yeah. Yeah. Be smart about it. Yeah. I think so. If the reading is about your work, the fool can indicate starting a new job, project, or business venture, beginning a course of study or going on a business trip. Okay. It's a sign if I've ever seen one. I that's all I can take away from this. Caitlin, I can't wait to go to Japan with you. I know.

34:55 You're looking forward to this new adventure or new direction and its possibilities. Well, hello. Embrace the opportunity with an open mind. You have a lot to learn. Yes, we do. A lot of Japanese things I want to learn. All of them. Throw me right down that rabbit hole. In a reading about love, this card often means beginning a romance or moving into a new stage in an existing relationship. A new relationship may feel faded as if you've met your soulmate. Enjoy this period of joy, openness and excitement. Oh, there's another extra. I love the extra.

35:40 The quest for meaning always takes us into the unknown. That's from I think this is actually a tarot like companion book. It's called the pilgrims companion. Oh, cool. I like that. The quest for meaning always takes us into the unknown. I like it. Yeah. I think that's fitting. That's kind of interesting too. It reminds me of the falls and the suicide forest, like the quest for meaning. Yeah. Leave you on to the unknown. Is that what it is? Yeah, the quest for meaning always takes us into the unknown. We don't know. We don't know what the fuck is happening. I couldn't agree more.

36:32 Oh, my goodness. I really like that. I like when my fool pops out. He makes me smile. And I have one thing to say about this case and about this reading and if you can't see it here in the video fully, I'll go ahead and just... It's a little sign that says "Eq" will probably post a photo for people who have to aren't on Patreon. But did you notice that has a little spider too? I was actually pretty surprised and proud of you that you bought something with a spider on it. Also the tablecloth has webs and... Yeah, and that is actually something that came in our little goody basket from Dave and Paul. Is it? Oh, thank you, Dave and Paul. Love you. We love the little snacks. Oh, my goodness. We really did. We've got the TikTok to prove it. Also, I got us matching hers and hers little headstones. So cute. Mine, you know, true to my nature says "keep out."

37:41 Mine says "gone at last." Which is, you know, probably pretty on too. Yeah. And then we got a crystal grid there. We're just like pointing not audibly at all, but... Yeah, that's not a new bed, oily. That is a crystal grid. Yeah, cloth. Crystal grid? Great cloth. That sounds good to me. Yeah, and we're actually going to be sharing some... Well, we'll just see. I'm going to get creative. I went to a very cool crystal shop that's here kind of in the extended local area.

38:27 And I... Yeah, it was a really, really cool place. She has more than crystals, but that's obviously the highlight for me. So... Yes. Shiny racks. Yeah. So... Why do time? I think that's all of the things. Yeah. As usual, if you notice something about the card or description that related to something we didn't notice, because our brains are just... much. You know how they are. Yeah. But let us know. Comment. DM. Maybe... Email. Maybe... DM you back. All right, well, I'm going to suggest that we ring the bell.

39:12 Oh, man. Where's my... Ring for wine? Oh, there it is. Because we are also going to do a second recording today. And I'm going to get my revenge on Cassie. So... Yay! I'm going to finish off. Have a creepy ass Halloween! See you next Tuesday! I can't believe I shouldn't be with me. Say see you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday. Thank you. Unless you're molley snoring, go get out of here. Bye guys. So for all of you that are listening, if you have any true crime or paranormal stories that you want us to share, maybe with the whole Pacific Northwest. Yes, we would love to read them on the pod. Yes, we will read them out loud. Not just in our head. Yes. They don't have to be from the Pacific Northwest. If you would like to share, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com It's all spelled out. No special characters. Super duper easy peasy. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook.

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41:33 Alrighty. Did you hear that when I said it? What? Like my voice got all creak like crackly like already. Okay. Shk. Alrighty. [Clears throat] I just cleared my throat. Cassie is possessed as shoo. I can't say already. Maybe I should just say something else. Fuck. [Cassie laughs] Fuckin' alright. I'm ... You're good.