1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:21,720 So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th, 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff. 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Oh, yes. 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,200 Very spooky. 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Ho ho ho, Caitlyn. 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Ho ho ho, Cassie. 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Ho ho ho, creepy people. 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200 I kinda like that. 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Hello. 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,200 If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides, 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,200 where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y, 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200 in the Pacific Northwest. 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,200 That's amazing. 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:15,200 We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week. 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 So make sure you stick around if you're into that. 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always. 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,200 True. 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Woo, woo, from the window to the walls. 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Skeet, skeet. 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200 I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever. 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that. 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,200 We're just linking. 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Yeah, we'll show notes too. 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,200 I love it. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Just in case. 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Yeah. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,200 If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing? 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Yeah. 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,200 We're hilarious. 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,200 I agree. 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:04,200 I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,200 It's very true. 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:16,200 I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,200 I would be too. 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,200 All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary. 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200 It wasn't that scary. 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:35,200 It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds. 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200 There were some shenanigans. 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:45,200 There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics. 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200 But there were some creepy shit in there. 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,200 I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out. 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,200 There was one that I couldn't take out. 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,200 It was like over her voice or under her voice. 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 It sounded like robotic. 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,200 It was really creepy. 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,200 So I don't know if anyone caught that. 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Okay. 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,200 So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode. 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,200 And I love that for her. 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Yeah. 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,200 In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I... 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"? 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200 Oh my god. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Well anyway, today is a less scary topic. 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Is this the holiday? 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200 You know, we got to keep it light around here. 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,200 So... 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,200 All right. 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Well, you know, also keeping it creepy. 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200 We're baubles deep into December. 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just... 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,200 It went perfectly together. 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,200 It really did. 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200 It really did. 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Wow. 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,200 So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret. 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,200 No. 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:57,200 And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas. 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,200 You know, that's fair. 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,200 So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing. 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:14,200 But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart. 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,200 I grew up with it. 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,200 So, yeah. 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,200 It's kind of a magical time, magical season. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Very magical. 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas. 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Which I did last night. 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Love it. 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:35,200 And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie. 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,200 You know that. 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right? 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,200 I have. 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,200 I have. 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,200 It's been quite a few years. 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:47,200 I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it. 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,200 You should. 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Okay. 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this? 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,200 What's this? 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,200 He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas. 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think. 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Definitely Christmas. 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Christmas is special. 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,200 It's warm. 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Warm and fuzzy. 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Warm and fuzzy. 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,200 Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town? 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Yes. 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Did you? 104 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,200 I did. 105 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200 I didn't honestly before this. 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,200 I didn't. 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 I really did. 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,200 It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas. 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,200 It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town. 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,200 So adorable, but it's still extremely magical. 111 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 And I think a quote from this locations website is in order. 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Of course. 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere. 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,200 The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting. 115 00:05:53,200 --> 00:06:00,200 The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events. 116 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine. 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Sample locally brewed beers. 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Very important. 119 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,200 Excellent. 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,200 And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences. 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:22,200 It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!" 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Adorable. 123 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200 That's on their website. 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,200 So freaking cute. 125 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Holy schnitzel. 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,200 So have you been to Leavenworth? 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,200 I have. 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Yeah. 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Is it beautiful? 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,200 It's gorgeous. 131 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,200 I've never been. 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,200 I've been, I think it was in the fall time. 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:45,200 So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings. 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,200 And all of the buildings are so cute. 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,200 It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town. 136 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Oh my god, I have to go someday. 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Was it all lit up when you went? 138 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,200 No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving. 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Exactly. 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Yeah. 141 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 2010, I was there. 142 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Oh my god, that was like a decade ago. 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Yeah. 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,200 So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February. 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,200 So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time. 146 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 That's, yeah, it's quite the window. 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,200 And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out. 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200 My mommy actually just went with her friends. 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Yeah, she said it was gorgeous. 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 She sent me a couple of pictures. 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Oh good. 152 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 And she said it was so much fun. 153 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,200 And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it. 154 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,200 I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about. 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Yeah. 156 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,200 And this is why I'm doing the podcast. 157 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 I can learn about them. 158 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,200 That's fair. 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Also, I just realized I went in June. 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Oh. 161 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,200 I did not go in the fall. 162 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Okay, was it cold though still? 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 It was chilly in the evening. 164 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Yeah, for sure. 165 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200 But. 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,200 So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go. 167 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:16,200 But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas, 168 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:23,200 what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi. 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Ooh. 170 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:35,200 So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked. 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Krampusnacht. 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,200 Krampusnacht. 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,200 December 5th. 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,200 You might see Krampus costumes around town. 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,200 It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration. 176 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Okay. 177 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,200 So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern. 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,200 And I was like, huh. 179 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,200 That's interesting. 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,200 I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus. 181 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,200 You know? 182 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,200 It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance. 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Oh, no. 184 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Big and hairy with goat-like horns. 185 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,200 Yeah. 186 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200 I mean, no notes. 187 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,200 And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs. 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird. 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:37,200 And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw. 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Oh. 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,200 He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses. 192 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Ooh. 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Phalanges. 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:51,200 So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps. 195 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Yeah. 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,200 That's exactly what it means. 197 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,200 It sounds like. 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Yeah. 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,200 I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is. 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 I mean, I literally just picture. 201 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:09,200 I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music. 202 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,200 She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music. 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Pretty sure that was based in Austria. 204 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200 And people skiing. 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,200 Yeah. 206 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Definitely skiing. 207 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Yeah. 208 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:32,200 And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil. 209 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Working naughty children with sticks. 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,200 Yeah. 211 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer. 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Great. 213 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200 I would prefer neither. 214 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Sounds like a fun time. 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Okay. 216 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,200 I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that. 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,200 Oh. 218 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Be naughty, save Santa the trip. 219 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,200 That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates. 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,800 I had no idea. 221 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,480 But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together. 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,480 We'll talk about it. 223 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Yeah. 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,480 We'll talk about it. 225 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Oh my God. 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,000 So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son 227 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,400 of Hel. 228 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,840 to Germany. 230 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,840 So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling. 231 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Yeah. 232 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,840 The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology. 233 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:53,680 Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell? 234 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:54,680 Oh. 235 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,680 Sounds kind of familiar. 236 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,360 Yeah, a little bit. 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,680 And she is the daughter of Loki. 238 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:03,680 Okay. 239 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,000 We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter. 240 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Yeah. 241 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Krampus has quite the pedigree. 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Yeah. 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,480 And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous 244 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,840 cultural and religious beliefs apparently. 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Yeah. 246 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Yeah. 247 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,840 As if we weren't already aware. 248 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Yeah. 249 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,840 But you know, you just got to drill it in. 250 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,840 Yeah. 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,080 Oh my God. 252 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Okay. 253 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,080 So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix. 254 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,080 And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with. 255 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,080 I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day. 256 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Okay. 257 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Nikolaustag. 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,080 Oh my goodness. 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,080 Not how you say it. 260 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Nikolaustag. 261 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Nikolaustag. 262 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Nikolaustagt. 263 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Nikolaustag. 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Do you need me to look it up? 265 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,080 Nikolaustagt. 266 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:07,160 It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and 267 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,160 then T-A-G. 268 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Nikolaustag. 269 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Nikolaustag. 270 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:16,080 Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht. 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Okay. 272 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,520 So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus. 273 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Super long story short. 274 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,400 Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y. 275 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Okay. 276 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus? 277 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Right. 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,240 That's fair. 279 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,840 But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,000 wanted to keep the legend alive. 281 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah. 282 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,640 You know what I mean? 283 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 That's where I'm going with that. 284 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,640 And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right? 285 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:05,640 There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell. 286 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Yeah. 287 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Yeah. 288 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,200 There's, there really is nothing quite like it. 289 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:17,760 So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th, Krampusnacht 290 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,880 to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff. 291 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow. 292 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Oh, yeah. 293 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Spooky. 294 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Very spooky. 295 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Okay. 296 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,640 So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning? 297 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,640 Yeah. 298 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,520 There's actually a reason for that. 299 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:49,440 In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional 300 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle." 301 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Ooh. 302 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:04,000 They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus 303 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,640 cosplay parade. 304 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Hello. 305 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,240 They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff. 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,440 It's really cool. 307 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,080 That sounds amazing. 308 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,240 I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person. 309 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Wow, wow, wow. 310 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,480 I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible. 311 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 It's on theme. 312 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,080 The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back 313 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,720 the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it. 314 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760 I love that. 315 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,680 From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the 316 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,280 charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022. 317 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,280 Oh, no, why? 318 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280 I'll tell you. 319 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Oh, no. 320 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:09,060 A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who 321 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:16,720 objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh 322 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,040 with the events and the friendly reputation." 323 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,040 What? 324 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right? 325 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,920 And it's like it's one day. 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Come on. 327 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,120 God. 328 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,520 To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen, 329 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 the Krampus Karen's Unite. 330 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Yeah. 331 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:52,840 So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized 332 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,200 by 11 worth leaders. 333 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:01,600 So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus, 334 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000 don't fucking come on Krampusnacht. 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Seriously. 336 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000 But it's sad. 337 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,360 They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf. 338 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:11,360 What was it? 339 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,360 Krampuslauf party? 340 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:13,360 Yeah. 341 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:14,360 Yeah. 342 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:17,840 But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing. 343 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,720 They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know 344 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,160 was a thing, but that sounds fun. 345 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,160 Yeah. 346 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton, 347 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Washington, where the event was received with open arms. 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Open...claws? 349 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Open claws. 350 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Yeah. 351 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:48,760 They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus 352 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,640 nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus. 353 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Stop it. 354 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,120 That happened last night, actually. 355 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,320 I am obsessed. 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Next year we have to go. 357 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,840 We're going. 358 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,840 That sounds really fun. 359 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,440 I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting. 360 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,120 I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably 361 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,120 will watch it. 362 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,120 I mean, come on. 363 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,720 Oh my God, I just had a flashback. 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show? 365 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Oh my God. 366 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 It was like on MTV. 367 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,240 I hold on. 368 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,120 I will look it up. 369 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,120 Celebrity Death Match. 370 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:29,120 Yes. 371 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:30,120 Oh my God. 372 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,120 That show is so fun. 373 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,960 That's what this reminds me of. 374 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Yeah. 375 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,960 It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match. 376 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Definitely. 377 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that. 378 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Ooh. 379 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,960 They should have. 380 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960 We're going to investigate that. 381 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Oh. 382 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,560 They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen. 383 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Oh. 384 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,360 And Tim Allen played Santa Claus. 385 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,360 That's true. 386 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360 That's true. 387 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,360 Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus. 388 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,560 I love that for him. 389 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,840 So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this. 390 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,040 This is from the KrampusBremerton.com. 391 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological 392 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720 generosity. 393 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,840 What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead? 394 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,840 What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be 395 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 kind, patient, and compassionate? 396 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Oh. 397 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080 I like that. 398 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,080 I know. 399 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,080 I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is 400 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,840 cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing 401 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,320 you what really good is. 402 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Right. 403 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,440 This is a reminder. 404 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,880 But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa. 405 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:09,680 With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd, 406 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720 stop it. 407 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,680 Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini. 408 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,680 Ooh. 409 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,880 Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself. 410 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Oh, yes. 411 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Krampus cookies. 412 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,480 6.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut. 413 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk. 414 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:40,480 And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl. 415 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Oh. 416 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Yeah. 417 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Literally have. 418 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,720 There's something called child stew and I fucking died. 419 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:56,520 It's just like, how do you order that? 420 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,520 You know? 421 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,680 I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please. 422 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Childless stew. 423 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,520 Also fun fact about me. 424 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,760 I love bread bowls. 425 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,760 I do too. 426 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,760 So fucking. 427 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760 So incredible. 428 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Like sourdough bread bowl. 429 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,240 Nothing better. 430 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,160 I will eat the entire bread bowl. 431 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Yeah. 432 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Don't test me. 433 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Yeah. 434 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,160 I would never. 435 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,400 They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch 436 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 sweater today. 437 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Hello. 438 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,200 And it's green. 439 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Got rain. 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,560 I want to go get it. 441 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,400 So this brings me to our last little bit here. 442 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,640 We visited the Kampus. 443 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440 We'll set up through the veil. 444 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,440 Oh my gosh. 445 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,440 Yeah. 446 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840 That feels like a lifetime ago. 447 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840 I know. 448 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,440 We took a bunch of photos. 449 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Chris took our photos. 450 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Thank you, Chris. 451 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,440 Thank you, Chris. 452 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,160 And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon. 453 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Hi. 454 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Hi. 455 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,160 Hi. 456 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Hi. 457 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Happy Patreon holidays. 458 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Yeah. 459 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,160 You get a holiday card. 460 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas. 461 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Yeah. 462 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160 Yeah. 463 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,160 So that'll be fun. 464 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160 They're really cute. 465 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160 Yeah. 466 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,160 They turned out super cute. 467 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,160 Yeah. 468 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:21,480 So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff 469 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,720 that they have in the store. 470 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,720 Like I can't even. 471 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Yeah. 472 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Actually, this is one of my purchases from... 473 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Oh yeah, it is. 474 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Yeah. 475 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 And we also have a couple other purchases we made there. 476 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,880 We got little mystery tarot cards. 477 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,800 And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their 478 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,400 altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on 479 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,400 their altar. 480 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,960 So that was my plan. 481 00:22:51,960 --> 00:23:01,400 And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus. 482 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,360 It has a very long protruding tongue and horns. 483 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,360 I cannot. 484 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,360 I cannot. 485 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,840 So I had to take it with me, of course. 486 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,880 And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally 487 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120 just notice that today. 488 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:22,880 So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because 489 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,720 it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much. 490 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 It's just too good. 491 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,920 And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot. 492 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920 I think she wants to open it today too. 493 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Yeah. 494 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,000 So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the 495 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,120 tarot reading and that will be that. 496 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,680 Ho ho ho. 497 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:52,640 As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows. 498 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,520 So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share with you this week. 499 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,920 Let's show them some love. 500 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,920 You can find their info in our show notes. 501 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:09,720 Hey, I'm Gina and I'm Amber. 502 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,280 And we're here to bring you the Weird True Crime Podcast where we cover true crime cases 503 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920 that will leave you asking yourself, did that really happen? 504 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,920 We'll dive into questionable cases throughout history that are solved, unsolved, or just 505 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080 plain unbelievable. 506 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,480 We'll also talk about the court gear side of true crime and episodes we like to call 507 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480 What the f*ck Wednesday. 508 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:40,520 So be sure to subscribe and listen on your favorite podcast service. 509 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840 You guys were back! 510 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520 And don't worry, we did get more wine. 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Well, of course. 512 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,640 Okay, before tarot, we're doing things. 513 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,640 We're doing things. 514 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,640 Okay. 515 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,440 What are we opening, Caitlyn? 516 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,120 We have so many fun things to open. 517 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:10,240 We have not checked our PO box for a little while. 518 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,280 So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received. 519 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040 But it's so cute. 520 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,360 I know. 521 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,120 I'm going to read it. 522 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,520 Please do. 523 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600 It's spooky season. 524 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast. 525 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:33,440 Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week. 526 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Stay spooky. 527 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360 From Danny. 528 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,920 Oh, thank you, Danny. 529 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,920 You wanna... 530 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600 I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas. 531 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920 But I love Halloween. 532 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920 And there's something Halloweeny. 533 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640 Oh, I love Halloweeny. 534 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120 Okay. 535 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,760 And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from. 536 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,360 Because I recognize the handwriting. 537 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000 So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer. 538 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,400 Oh, Hi Elyse. 539 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400 Oh, Winston. 540 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400 Oh, Winston. 541 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400 We love her. 542 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400 Yeah. 543 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400 So flipping cute. 544 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,880 And she sent us a little sticker peac. 545 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,880 Of course she did. 546 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480 She's always so good with the stickers. 547 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480 I know. 548 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,200 Look at this little Christmas Winston. 549 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200 It's adorable. 550 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Oh, I love it. 551 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,880 I really want Winston on the pod. 552 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880 I know. 553 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880 I know. 554 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,680 So many things. 555 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,680 And we have this. 556 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840 What's that? 557 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,920 This came from Caitlin. 558 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Caitlyn, who? 559 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720 Not me. 560 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Hi, Caitlin. 561 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Oh, this is so cute. 562 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Happy holiday. 563 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,920 Got that Lumberjack plaid on there. 564 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Right? 565 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,560 It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me. 566 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Okay. 567 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 I'm going to read this to you. 568 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Caitlyn and Cassie. 569 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600 What's up? 570 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year. 571 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,600 I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers. 572 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:18,120 Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on. 573 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,120 Yeah. 574 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,120 I'm so excited. 575 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,640 I love meeting everybody. 576 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,640 I know. 577 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Literally. 578 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640 I love it. 579 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,640 I love it. 580 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640 I love people. 581 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,440 I know I would say people, but I love my people. 582 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Yeah. 583 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080 No, that's the difference. 584 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,000 Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts. 585 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360 Happy holidays, Caitlin. 586 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,360 Yes. 587 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,560 Oh my gosh. 588 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,880 My eyes are tearing up. 589 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680 I'm not crying. 590 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,920 She's not crying, though. 591 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Oh no. 592 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Oh no. 593 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Oh my god. 594 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,920 What? 595 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920 Okay. 596 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920 There's candy cans. 597 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Yes. 598 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:06,080 And there's two little wrapped things in here. 599 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Okay. 600 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520 One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board. 601 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,920 So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you. 602 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920 That feels on brand. 603 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Oh my god. 604 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120 Is this a sucker? 605 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,400 Yes. 606 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800 This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen. 607 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,600 We'll take closer pictures. 608 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Oh my god. 609 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Where did you get this? 610 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,120 Oh my god. 611 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,240 I am obsessed. 612 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440 Mine's blackberry pear. 613 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Ooh. 614 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Ooh. 615 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Oh yeah. 616 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440 I did see the Skittles right on top. 617 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440 So those are already gone. 618 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,960 Oh my gosh. 619 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000 This is so cute. 620 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Stop it. 621 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 A tarot card. 622 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Scented bath bomb. 623 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Oh my god. 624 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Yours is so cute. 625 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Look at this. 626 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Ooh. 627 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:05,560 It's so excited for this. 628 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560 What is your scent? 629 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Um, a biscuit. 630 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,920 I love a biscuit. 631 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920 What's yours? 632 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Rose. 633 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Do we need a trade? 634 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840 What do you want? 635 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 I love Rose. 636 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Thank you, Kate. 637 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960 I was. 638 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960 We traded. 639 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960 Oh my gosh. 640 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,240 I'm taking a bath like tonight. 641 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880 I don't have a tub, but I will find one. 642 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880 I have a tub. 643 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880 I actually do. 644 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Okay. 645 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880 I'm house sitting. 646 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880 So I do have access to a tub. 647 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Actually, this is perfect. 648 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880 This is so perfect. 649 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880 I'm so excited. 650 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880 I all have a tub, Kate. 651 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880 I'm so excited. 652 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880 I'm going to take a video. 653 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880 So excited. 654 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Yeah. 655 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,880 I was just going to say. 656 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Oh my gosh. 657 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,880 Okay. 658 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880 What else is in here? 659 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880 Oh my gosh. 660 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Oh my gosh. 661 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Oh my gosh. 662 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Oh my gosh. 663 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880 Oh. 664 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880 Self-care thing. 665 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880 Oh. 666 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Oh my gosh. 667 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Oh my gosh. 668 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880 Oh my gosh. 669 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Oh my gosh. 670 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Oh my gosh. 671 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880 Oh. 672 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Self-care thing. 673 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Oh. 674 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Oh my gosh. 675 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Oh my gosh. 676 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Oh my gosh. 677 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Oh my gosh. 678 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,880 Oh my gosh. 679 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,880 Oh my gosh. 680 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Oh. 681 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Self-care thing. 682 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:28,000 and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear 683 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,360 this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that. 684 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken 685 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:54,880 sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope 686 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:02,000 tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know. 687 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles. 688 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away 689 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:34,800 money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one. 690 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if 691 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,760 that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy 692 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,080 car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does. 693 00:31:52,080 --> 00:32:00,480 Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility, 694 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:08,720 poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass 695 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:17,680 church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones. 696 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode, 697 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:35,520 because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a 698 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,400 Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow, 699 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:56,320 that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun. 700 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,120 It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like 701 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,640 it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain. 702 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:18,000 Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just 703 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,720 I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I 704 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,480 wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute. 705 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:45,120 All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key 706 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:55,760 words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites. 707 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good 708 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,000 and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah. 709 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:25,360 Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some 710 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:33,200 decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in 711 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,920 a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a 712 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:50,320 winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back. 713 00:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,640 You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a 714 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:09,120 young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card. 715 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:18,720 Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people 716 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,680 interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites, 717 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:35,520 your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future 718 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:43,840 if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female 719 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,240 coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just 720 00:35:52,240 --> 00:36:02,240 got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working 721 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:11,840 together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner. 722 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,880 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas. 723 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:26,240 When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the 724 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:35,280 romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers 725 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:42,320 represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates 726 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,760 you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision. 727 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew. 728 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,960 In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's. 729 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:17,040 That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into 730 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,840 wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like, 731 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:31,680 oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up. 732 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:40,240 If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony. 733 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:46,880 Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal. 734 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,800 The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through 735 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,560 working with a romantic partner in business. 736 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus? 737 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:20,160 I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she 738 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:29,280 comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right 739 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,000 click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just 740 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,640 call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology 741 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,200 there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her, 742 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,680 she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that 743 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:04,160 in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring 744 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:11,760 and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means 745 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:22,000 a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus 746 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,000 evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's 747 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:36,160 a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel. 748 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,960 It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing 749 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,600 something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide? 750 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:59,200 I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones. 751 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:06,800 Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five 752 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,000 five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it 753 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,200 looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could 754 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,920 see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom 755 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:37,680 or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings 756 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,840 out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles. 757 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:54,880 And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally... 758 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,440 They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't... 759 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,720 I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this 760 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:13,200 card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil 761 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,320 episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there. 762 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,600 I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we 763 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:30,240 start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because 764 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,360 they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board 765 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:46,480 that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap. 766 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:55,600 Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then 767 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,800 we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not. 768 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,480 With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass. 769 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:18,800 Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know. 770 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:26,000 I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too. 771 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,840 I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine 772 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:41,120 was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean, 773 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,600 that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you... 774 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:54,320 specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah. 775 00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,320 Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first? 776 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:10,320 [Music] 777 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:35,120 [Music] 778 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:44,480 Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my 779 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:54,400 God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said 780 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:04,000 well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.