Rooted in History: Unearthing Lone Fir Cemetery's Haunting Past

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While normally that's not my favorite, I do feel like that is an improvement over the screaming.

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Screaming dead lady is not my fave.

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But it could be like, you know, like a dimension like time slip kind of thing where she thinks you're the fucking ghost.

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And she's like, "Oh, fucking ghost!" and screams. Like, maybe she's not in pain or anything. She's just scared, too.

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That's perfectly reasonable explanation. That makes me feel better about it.

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No. I'm glad that that helps you.

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Hi, Caitlyn. Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people.

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If you're new to our creepy little corner of the world, this is P-N-W-Honks and Homicides,

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Yes, and sometimes we very individually over-pronounce specific letters,

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because we don't want there to be any confusion.

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I just don't want to slur my words already.

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I know she's had like three whole sips of wine, so we got to be careful.

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Yeah. We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight

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into our topic for the day, so make sure you stick around if you're into that, which obviously at

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this point you should be. You will be, or converting you. We're trying. We've got a really cute

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alter today. We do. Super special and cute, but we won't tell you what it is yet. We're going to wait.

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Oh, okay. You don't think I can tell? Well, I mean, but they're listening right now.

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Oh, right. They might not know yet. Oh, you guys can't see it.

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We can't see it yet.

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Welcome to my autobiography, line one. Hi, my name is Cassie, and I'm a fucking tree hugger

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from Portland, Oregon. I mean, that's true. That's the truest thing you've said so far today.

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I wrote ha ha after that in my note in case you didn't laugh. Okay. So I would remember that it was

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supposed to be funny. And then you would just giggle to yourself and be like, "Ha ha, fuck you."

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So I wrote that because I'm starting this episode off by nerding out on trees.

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Dindrafelia. Is that what it's called? Well, okay, listen, I don't know. Hold on.

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Is that like boning a tree, though? I say, yeah, well, that's why I didn't want to.

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I think so. I maybe don't want to do that. Yeah, I don't know that it means that you're actually having

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sex with the tree. Let's we're going to find out together. Literally means love of trees.

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So the term may sometimes refer to a parapheria in which people are sexually attracted or sexually

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aroused by trees. So it may or may not involve sexual contact or penetration. I mean, you know how I

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feel about wood. I feel like you've made your thoughts very clear. I would never want to make love

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to a tree unless I had the tree's consent. I feel like that's a little bit harder to get the trees

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consent. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that could be a real sticking point. Yeah, but you know, people do

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talk to trees. So maybe someday we'll see. I'll keep you guys updated. Yeah.

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Caitlin, do you know what a heritage tree is? Is that where people keep their family log books?

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No, they are officially placked up trees that are preserved due to their unique size, age,

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historical or horticultural significance. Horticultural. I said that word right the first time I

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just want everybody to know. I'm very proud of that. As of about a year ago, there are 328

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heritage trees in Portland, representing 134 different tree species.

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Species species. Species. That number may be a little different now since they do add new trees

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every year. And some of the heritage trees were destroyed by the quote extreme weather events of

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2022. Oh, no, which I was like, do we have extreme weather? I don't remember. Yeah, no, we the last

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couple of winters. We've had a ton of falling and/or otherwise damaged trees. Yeah. Do you remember

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when you drove up here shortly after the big snow storm? I remember like this year, but I don't

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remember two years ago. It's been like that like every year since basically 2020. I just want to

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head and walked everything out. Oh, I mean, it's the strongest policy. It's that that's what keeps you safe.

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That's what helps you sleep at night. Does it? It's not working. I mean, it doesn't work for me.

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Anyway, about trees. It's a lot of fucking trees. It is a lot of trees. Yes. And why are we talking

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about trees today? I don't know. Is it going to be a ghost tree? Is it going to be a true crime?

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About a tree, fucker? Maybe. We'll see where this is headed.

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Well, one of Portland's oldest and still used cemeteries is also an arboretum located in the

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southeast. It is Portland's second largest arboretum behind Hoiitt, which is Yiu. It's Yiu. So big.

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It is also listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Okay. Yeah. There are more than 700 trees

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of 67 species on just over 30 acres of the cemetery. Wow. Yeah. It's big. That's so many trees.

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And it's in the city. So two of these 700 trees are heritage trees. But one of them is extra special

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because the cemetery/arboretum was lovingly named Lone Fir in 1866 after the Douglas Fir.

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The heritage tree that's there. Well, there's like three of them there, but that's the one that's

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named doctor. Okay. Which was the only tree in sight. Get it? Lone. Lone Fir. Who's the only one?

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I was like, that's she means something. I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it. Clearly she means

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something beyond this. No, no. Okay. There's just one. I got it. One tree. It's a single. Yes.

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And you're probably thinking, yeah, but didn't you just say there's a fuck ton of trees here? Yeah.

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I think that's where I got lost. Yes, I did. Couldn't see the forest for the trees.

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Through the tree. The one tree. Yeah. But the arboretum grew in kind of the same way that the cemetery

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did. I don't know. So we're going to go on a little journey. Okay. In 1846, Emore, it's E-M-M-O-R.

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Emore. Emore. Emore. Emore Stephens was buried on his son's family farm when the farm was sold

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to Colburn Barrel in 1854. He made a promise to maintain Emore's final resting place. Okay.

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He kept his word, but under some unfortunate circumstances. In the same year, he purchased the land.

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Two of Colburn's friends were among 24 passengers that passed away in a steamship explosion.

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Yeah. Oh god. That's got to be one of the most terrific ways to die. I imagine I'm not going to

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look into that. Yeah, I didn't like go deep into what happened. You'll have to do that on your own time,

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but it was a big deal. Yeah. He turned 10 acres of his land into a cemetery for the burial of his friends,

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and I believe some of the other passengers as well. Oh. Yeah. Even naming it Mount Crawford after

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one of them Crawford Dobbins. These names. I know. Colburn, what was this barrel? Crawford Dobbins

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are Dobbins, but I think it's Dobbins. Yeah. Wow. Mount Crawford grew to 30 acres by 1866,

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and was named Lone Fir Cemetery by Colburn's wife Aurelia, AURELIA. Yeah. I would say Aurelia.

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Aurelia. Yeah. And there are now 25,000 people and counting laid to rest here. That's so many.

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Kind of a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Just right in the city. Cool. So just like the lone man,

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Emore Stephens, that started at all with time, the lone fur was joined by more and more trees

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buried in the soil of the cemetery. Okay. That's fine. The trees are good. Or are they? Is this like a

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happening sort of a scenario? I don't know. You have to wait and find out. Emore's son James and his

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wife Elizabeth are also buried here with a rather unique headstone. Oh. That I meant to pull up before

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this, but I forgot. Why do I feel like I'm not going to like this? Okay. Let me get the close up. Why?

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It's very sweet. Oh, I'm sure I'll like it much better close up. It's very sweet. Said no one ever.

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So it is a gravestone with two people carved into it. It's creepy, but it's also very sweet.

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They just wanted to be remembered together forever. I mean, I sincerely doubt I will ever forget that.

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It's very haunting looking. Yes. Yeah. Very haunting, haunted, all of the above. On this very unique

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haunting gravestone is an inscription that everyone is kind of obsessed with.

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Okay. So it says, here we lie by consent after 57 years, two months and two days, so journey through

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life awaiting nature's immutable laws to return us back to the elements of the universe of which we

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were first composed. Okay. I think that's beautiful. And normally this is a word I like, but the

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consent part that I don't know why that's concerning me. That was confusing to me too.

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Are there unconsenting graves of people in the... It's funny you say that.

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I know. At the time their headstone is put up. I don't think so. I don't think that's why they put it on there.

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But that's interesting. Yeah. So I don't know what the consent thing is all about. Maybe it's just like

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like we wanted to end up here together. I mean, yeah, but like consent is

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depending on the context to me that just says like, okay, sure. I need like we enthusiastically

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consent. We should change the inscription to enthusiastic consent. I'm really stressed out.

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But James passed away two years after his wife and during that time it is said that he would visit

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their shared burial plot and imagine holding Elizabeth's warm loving hand again. So he... I don't know

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if the statues of them were there at the time. Yeah, I guess that's an interesting point. I'm like,

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why do we have to use like these words that it's like they did like a madlibs of words that would

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just make me upset? Why do we have to describe her hand specifically as warm? I mean, I put that in

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there. He didn't put that in there. Oh my god. I will. He doesn't know why that's creeping me out so much.

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And now my toes are cold. I put it like that because I I didn't want anyone to think he was imagining

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holding her past away. Hold hands. Yeah. Yeah. He was remembering her as she was living. Okay. But he

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did specifically say he imagined holding her hand again. So fucking sweet. God damn it. God,

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Frisk, why don't you ever tell me that you imagined holding my cold dead hand. Maybe after today,

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he will. Yeah. My hands are always cold. So we're going to go on and talk about some of the other people

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who are buried here. Harriet “Hatti" Redmond is laid to rest at Lone Fir. She was a leader in the

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community being involved in the Colored Woman's Council and the Women's Suffrage Campaigns,

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which were successful. And had he registered to vote in 1912. Good for her. Yeah. And I did read that she put

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her occupation down as hairdresser and I just thought that was so fucking cute. It was really cute.

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Adam “Gus" Waterford, Portland's first African American firefighter. Stop it. Yeah. And he has water

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in his name. Right. I mean, I know, which is kind of a theme throughout this happens again, which is

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weird. It's not fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire,

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something else but still cool. But he was originally buried in an unmarked grave, which sadly,

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kind of a theme around here. More on that later. But in 2015, the students of Madison High School and

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the Portland Fire Department got a proper marker for Gus. Okay. How I'm sorry in what year? 2015.

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Cool. Just like casually decades and decades later. Yeah. I didn't write down the specific date

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who was buried, but it was not close to 2015. I'll tell you that. It's correct. I have to imagine.

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Cool. Ada Smith, who was six when she died in 1885. Oh, she has a beautiful angel statue on her head

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stone. And at some point, the angel was stolen. Dick. I know. But it was later found in an abandoned

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warehouse in his sense been restored and returned to Ada. You stole the angel and just like left it

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somewhere else. Right. I know. I don't know like what they plan to do with that or what and maybe they

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just wanted to be Dick's and still a fucking six year old angel headstone. Like who are you? I,

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you know, she was six years old and died and that alone is sad enough. Yeah. Wow. Just, just

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trash. But thankfully, it's back with her now. So the Macleay family has a gorgeous mausoleum. In

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the 1880s, Donald Macleay was a well known investor, real estate developer and president of the

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board of trade in Portland. And if the name is sounding really familiar to you, that's because

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the witch's castle, which we did an episode on, is located in Macleay Park. Okay.

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Which was named after him. Okay. All right. I thought, I thought maybe I was like, hmm,

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somewhere in my little lizard brain. I was something was yeah, wiggling.

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Big famous Portland family with a big famous Portland mausoleum.

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That calls. Next, we're going to move on to Julius Caesar. This was not his given name.

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But he don't say yeah, no, but he was born and enslaved person and had the name of the family that

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enslaved him. So understandably as a free man, he decided he needed a new name and he loved

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reciting Shakespeare. Okay. Yeah. All right. I kind of love that. It's not so fucking cute. Yeah.

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We're bringing back Shakespeare again. Oh, yeah. Cause yeah, you guys Shakespeare was so out before.

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But we're bringing him back. I really meant just because we just talked about this with the park.

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No, but I just really wanted to envision that people were thinking like Shakespeare is so out.

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Yeah. Who's he? Yo. He was also a huge sports fan in the phrase play ball being among his favorite

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was actually coined by him. What? Apparently that's what this article says and he was actually featured

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in Ripley's Believe It Or Not. Oh, yeah. Wow. So a local friend he'd made during his lifetime

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purchased him a headstone and it has that very phrase engraved on it. Play ball. Yeah. Isn't that

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so fucking all of this is so cute. It's really cute. Unfortunately though, they misspelled Caesar

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on his gravestone. Well, which you know, it's a hard word. The A and the E or you know,

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well backwards. It's fine. But the thought was there. Just like one of the most famous figures in

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all of history, but yeah. Yeah. So thought that counts. Play ball. Caesar ball. What are you going to have

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engraved on my headstone? Oh, no, I knocked that over.

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I feel like given time, I could come up with something better, but I was thinking about this

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actually, well, all the time because it's I do. That's just where we are. Yeah. That's who I am.

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I was going to say probably would say, but I dig right. Yeah. That too. That's a good one too.

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You can have a double-sided. Yeah. Put both on there. Oh, see, that's very own brand. You're like,

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she had a lot to say. Yeah. Yeah. You're just going to be filled. Mine's just going to say, I'm home.

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Mine's going to have stuff that I like half.

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Change my mind. Half thoughts. Yeah. We have like little carrots like inserting other things I forgot.

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That's going to be the best. Oh, don't die anytime soon. Okay. I wasn't planning on it.

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Now we have some fun boozy things here. Oh, James Frush. Froosh. Froosh like fruit, Froosh.

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Froosh. I like Froosh. I like Froosh. He's Froosh now. James, we love your last name. I'm sorry if I'm

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mispronouncing it, but you're Froosh. Yeah. I'm going to get me some Froosh. There is a marble earn

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at his grave, one that actually sat on the bar where he worked as a bartender. Okay. Well, you know

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I love that. You know how I feel about marble. Yes. It's very pretty. And during the holidays, it was

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filled with a drink called Tom and Jerry. A Tom and Jerry is a traditional Christmas time cocktail

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in the United States. It says sometimes attributed to British writer and professional boxing journalist

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Pierce Egan. Okay. I don't think I've heard of this. What is in it? Do we know? Well, I'll tell you.

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Okay. It is a variant of eggnog with brandy and rum added and served hot. Yeah, that's usually in a

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mug or a bowl. Okay. Well, apparently they filled this marble earn, which like why do they have an

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earn filled with booze? Listen, it was an earn, but I was still on board. And where we part ways is

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the ingredients of this cocktail. I hate eggnog. That is disgusting. Yeah. Does eggnog,

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hard eggnog, isn't that like what that is? Oh, it's served hot. So I guess that's a little different.

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Yeah. I know. It sounds disgusting. Served hot. Serving it in a mug or a bowl. A bowl? You know what,

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I was picturing people just like coming under the earn and like I don't know how they got it out

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of the earn. No, probably they probably had like a ladle or something. Yeah, like a punch. And then

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they heated it up, but I'm picturing like already hot people having their mouths under like a drain

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and like draining the Tom and Jerry into their mouths. The hot eggnog. I really, I'm deeply uncomfortable

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with either of those scenarios and I just know. Well, now I should have made us a friggin Tom and Jerry

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for today. I'm really glad that you didn't. They have eggnog in February, right? You know,

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actually I have some in my fridge. Oh, I'm sure it's totally still good. Just kidding. I don't

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don't get eggnog. I hate eggnog. Chris likes eggnog. I know. I find that it's honestly his

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most upsetting character flaw. So the saloon where this all happened was actually

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owned by Colburn Barrel himself. Okay. So after James died, they moved the earned his grave,

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but they would bring it back during the holidays to the bar and fill it with Tom and Jerry again to

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honor him. And I really hope that they cleaned it. I don't think anybody was drinking out of that.

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I think this was one of those like kind of poor went out for my whole day. Yeah, like an offering

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type of thing. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. What I'm going to go with. Yeah. Well, we should go and

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bring him a Tom and Jerry. I don't do you think people are still like is someone still doing that?

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I don't I don't think they they definitely don't take it anymore to fill it. And I don't think you

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could just like leave eggnog sitting out at someone's grave because like animals might get into it.

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Well, you know, squirrels are, you know, they're wily. Maybe, you know, yeah, they need a stiff drink.

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But I don't want to make a sick like when it goes bad. No, I don't like it. And you're not supposed to

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dump like milk on grass or anything. So I really don't know where we would put it. Maybe we just

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inject it right into the ground. What what is milk to grass? It can like kill the plants or it like

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grows. No, it grows a fungus on it that is harmful to like the animal. I don't like it. You ready for

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the next boozy themed grass please. Is this one to have tequila? No. Okay. But the bottler brothers

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have a pretty big monument. They were some of Portland's first brewers. Okay. Bottleer brothers. Yes.

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Okay. And I'm like, is it bottler or bottler because it's B-O-T-T-L-E-R. It looks like bottler.

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Bottler to me. Yeah. And I wrote bottler really? So did they choose this path or did the path choose them?

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That's a really good question. Yeah. Who knows? Their monument is in desperate need of restoration.

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It's kind of all blocked off. The roofs kind of caving in. But I have no doubt that Portlandians will

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show up for this pair of brewers. Brewer brothers. Brewer brothers. Yeah. The bottler brewer brothers. Yes.

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I believe they're raising funds to to get it all fixed up. So that would be cool. Okay. We're moving on.

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Andrew Johnston and Sarah Francis Wisdom. They were former enslaved people

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who were self emancipated. Okay. In the 1840s, they made a home from them from themselves. They

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did not make a whole lot of themselves. It's a real edgene vibe there. It's a real gingerbread house.

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None of it's good. Oh, like that. Do you think about that? That gingerbread men live in a gingerbread house?

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No. Made out of the bodies of gingerbread? No. No. No. I'm not going to start now.

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Oh, anyway. It's February and you ruined next Christmas. With the gross egg,

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no, I'm a gingerbread. Oh my god. Yeah. Wow. Okay. In the 1840s, they made a home for themselves in

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Portland, ignoring Oregon's black exclusion law. I was wondering which we heard about in one of

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Caitlyn's cases. I can't remember which one. Probably a couple of them, but Alonzo Tucker. Yes.

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Yeah. Alonzo. I know. They owned the first African American restaurant in Oregon called R&D.

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Wow. Yeah. Isn't that so cool? I can love all of this. Yeah. There is an unmarked Celtic Cross.

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Cemetery Records show. It was the grave of Alice Oberle, who was a fancy house sex worker.

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I like it. They called it a fancy house. Yeah. Like a brothel. She's a fancy, she's a fancy sex worker.

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Like an upscale. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one really knows for sure, but the story is that

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the Celtic Cross was donated by her clientele. Okay. Well, yeah. It doesn't get a whole lot

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fancier than that. Yeah. She was a popular one. This Alice O'Burrow. Good for you, Alice.

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But her sister, on the other hand, was not a fan of any of that lifestyle. Anything. The donation

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from the clientele, not a fan. So she had Alice moved to Mount Calvary Catholic Cemetery.

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Oh boy. That is mouthful. And her information was erased from the magnificent Marvel monument.

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Not cool. Not cool. Alice's sister. I bet. Dude, I bet Alice was like pretty pissed on the other side.

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I'm gonna haunt you until you die. Like those were her life choices. And I mean, I don't know. She

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was okay with them, but it seemed like it. There was there was actually a bunch of information on her,

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but I didn't obviously didn't include it. Like I don't need you judging me. I'm dead. Yeah.

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But you know, so anyway, I thought it was rude, but who knows who Alice was thinking, but

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her sister had a stick up her butt. Okay. Anyway. Kind of a C-U-next Tuesday. Sorry, Alice's sister,

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if you're listening. So the next person we're going to talk about is Emma Merlotin.

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M-E-R-L-O-T-I-N. Merlotton. Maybe? But she went by Anne Jeanne Tingry Le Coz. Le Coz.

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I think it's French. It's a very long- Oh, Tingry. Did I say it? Tingry? Tingry. Tingry? But Tingry sounded better.

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Huh? T-I-N-G-R-Y. I just feel like that's a whole lot of names that are not yours.

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Anne Jeanne Tingry Le Coz. How's the last one, Sam? L-E C-O-Z. It's like two words. Like,

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Le Coz. Yeah, I don't know. A lot of the articles had different variations of

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the same, which is the long name. So. I know fair. But this is how it's listed on findagrave.com

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so I chose that version. So she was also a Portland sex worker, and by all accounts was a very sweet

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person who helped out in the community a lot. The sucks. And these next couple, like, let me know if

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we need to cut anything out. If it like steps on any of your true crime toes. Oh, okay. So just let

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me know, but I didn't go in debt because I don't want to. Yeah, because you're like just you. I'm like

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skimming, skimming, skimming. Okay. No, thank you, please. It was awful. So she was maliciously murdered

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with a hatchet at the age of 33. Yeah. It was brutal. I did skim it, but it was brutal. Yikes. Yeah.

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And this next part is slightly disturbing, but no, it's a lot disturbing. I don't know why I wrote

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slightly. You're like, this is fine. It's okay. You're okay. You're doing great. I mean, they were trying.

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We'll talk about it. Okay. This is one I've actually kind of heard of before. I don't know if they

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did this with another person or what, but I never heard it connected to Portland in this way.

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At the time, it was thought that the last image a person saw could possibly be captured in their

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eyeballs. So they removed one of her eyes to see if they could see who killed her. Yeah. And did that work?

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It unfortunately did not work. Yeah. But I mean, you don't know when to try, right? Yeah, but I feel like

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we've heard this echoed through various aspects of history. Like how many eyeballs do we have to

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remove before we say like, I don't think that works. Yeah. And I definitely didn't like look up

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context. I don't know if it had happened before or if they were still trying it or what. I didn't

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dig deep because that's not what this is about. Yeah. And also because I don't want to. I have

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a lot of thoughts and feelings about eyeball stuff. Okay. Yeah. No, at least they, you know, they only

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did one. They didn't try both of them. I guess I just kind of I almost don't know if it's better or worse.

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I hate it. And I don't know who knows like what her stance on it would be like, hey, like if it

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could possibly help catch my killer. Like go ahead and try. But you know, the consent probably

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wasn't there. So who knows. So have you heard of charity lamb? Yes. Yes. Okay. I just have like a

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little paragraph. But if anything is in here, I need to cut out. Let me know. Okay. Oh, no. So charity

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lamb was the first woman to be convicted of murder in Oregon. And I'm not going to say what she

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did. We're just going to leave it up to someone else later. And was sentenced to a lifetime of

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heart labor in 1854. Later, the lifetimes were shorter. Yeah. Yeah. Later, she was transferred. Well,

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I know there's a lot of like nuance in this story. Yeah. Later, she was transferred to the Oregon

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insane hospital and actually died there in 1879. And then she was buried in the loan for cemetery.

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She's there. She is there. Okay. I would like to say there. I'm not 100% if she had a grave marker or

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not. Okay. I thought you were going to say they moved her. And I was like, there's a lot of unknowns

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with this cemetery. Because to go to their resting place, thinking that it's final. Yeah. You know,

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in 1955, they built a Multnomah County office, The Morrison Building, right on top of this area where she was

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buried. So this makes me think she did not have a marker. Along with many others from the hospital

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and other places we'll talk about in a minute. In 2004, the area was excavated and evidence of

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human remains were found under the building. Yeah. No shit. So they had it demolished and

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returned back to the cemetery. And I was really just wondering like what kind of haunted shenanigans

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was happening in that fucking building. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's funny that you say

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crazy specifically because these are people that were literally in an asylum. Yeah. Where if they weren't

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already crazy, like actually for real, living in one of those in an old, tiny era, that would do it.

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It's not great. It's not great. No, no, this is great. And there's a lot more to it.

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So do you remember how I said there was kind of like a theme of unmarked graves in the cemetery?

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This includes 132 to 185. We're not really sure. Patients from the asylum.

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Many families did not come to claim the bodies of their deceased family members. And

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the head of the hospital, Dr. Hawthorne, which might sound familiar. It does. Why? I'll tell you.

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He ended up paying to have these people buried at the cemetery, which was obviously an expense. Yeah.

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And to keep things kind of on the cheaper side and more simple, he just had them buried.

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It's some of some people say they were mass burials. Yeah. Like a mass grave. Some people say there

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was just no no markers or anything. But it's debated on whether this was a nice thing or not

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because otherwise where were they going to be buried, you know? Yeah. So some people say he was

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actually a great doctor and had a lot of sympathy and his practices. Obviously we know the things that

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happened in the silums weren't great. No. But maybe there were some people out there trying,

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you know, it's up in there. I didn't dig too deep into it. Right. And anything is possible. So

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but either way, Dr. Hawthorne also resides in Lone Fir. Great. So if he did anything naughty, he has

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some friends there to help him out with that. And that means he has a beautiful monument.

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And if that name sounds familiar, Hawthorne Boulevard was named after him and that's actually where

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the hospital was located, which is now it's torn down. But yeah. I was going to say weird because

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I don't recall ever seeing it. Yeah. It's not there no more. Yeah. Actually no one really knows where

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all of these people were buried. It's speculated that they're in or around block 14, which is a whole

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other ass can of worms were going to open in a minute. Yeah. The graves may have had markers,

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but they were probably wooden. And so they've either brought it or like burned away. So it's possible

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they were buried, you know, with little wooden markers, but those don't last. Yeah. So I didn't

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write the year. It was a long time ago though that Oregonian had an article describing dense

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rows of asylum burials to the east of block 14, where the cemetery parking lot is now.

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Do you know what song I'm thinking of? No. What do you think? Come on. Pave the parking lot.

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Pave the paradise. Yeah. With the parking lot. You know. You know. Yeah. You know. Okay. Yeah.

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So it's possible that there are still people under the parking lot there today. Yeah.

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Yes. No, thank you. But it does make me think that maybe there was like those wooden markers because

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in the in the article they're describing seeing rows of burials. So I don't I don't know if they're

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just seeing like mountains or I don't know. I don't know. But so we're going to talk about block 14.

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Block 14 was the Chinese slash Chinese American section of the cemetery. Yes, they

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disgustingly were separated from everyone else. Yeah. And they they might have been, you know,

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intermingled with the asylum patients too. It was pretty much anyone who couldn't really pay for

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a proper burial. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Let's go ahead and most segregate all of these disgusting

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boards. Yeah. Yeah. It'll grate. Yeah. Um, gross. Yeah. It's like it was a time. It was a time. Most of

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these people were railroad workers and people who built the foundation of the city pretty much

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an estimated 1100 to 2800 again. It's not clear. Immigrants were buried here. And

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265 of those bodies were moved back home for proper burial, which is great.

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But only 265 of them. Yeah. So awesome. It's awesome. They were trying to do something good.

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I mean, were they or were they're just 265 families that actually advocated for their loved ones?

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Yeah. I don't know. And it was so long ago, like who knows how many of their family members know

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about them? Yeah. Like we're still around. But it's getting better. Are you sure it is getting better?

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It's where it was getting worse. It's getting better now. It's like, it's looking up.

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This section was part of what I talked about earlier that was paved over and the office was built.

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But since everything has been torn down and returned back to the cemetery,

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plans are underway for a cultural heritage and healing garden to honor. I'm going to cry. Don't look at me like that.

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I wasn't going to cry. And I looked at you. Okay. Yeah.

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So I got to say again, plans are underway for a cultural heritage and healing garden

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to honor Chinese immigrants. That's cool. Like I'm fucking built our city. Yeah.

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Like we're living on shit that someone else built and they were just treated like garbage.

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Yeah. So like I guess if you're like into any of that stuff, like whatever.

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But they're also going to honor the patients of the mental hospital as well. Since there's so many

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that we just like don't know. We don't know what's under there.

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Kind of damn it. Caitlyn, you're the one without feelings.

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I know. Well, I obviously caught them from you. God damn it.

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This is a quote from Oregon Metro, who has been charged of taking care of the cemetery.

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The memorial will be shaped by input from the community and funded through voter approved

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2019 parks and bond. The memorial is expected to be completed by the end of 2026.

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So that's taken a little while. It always does. This all kind of started like the petitions for this

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and everything started in like 2008. And it just passed in 2019. It's going to be finished in 2026.

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Yeah. Fingers crossed. That seems like actually like incredibly fast.

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The quote goes on to say racial equity is the core of the bond measure.

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It prioritizes outcomes that benefit people of color, Indigenous people, people with low incomes,

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people with varying abilities and other historically marginalized groups, who have not benefited

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equitably from past investments. The bond measure also prioritizes work to make the region

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more resilient to climate change, which is that's great too. I thought that in there too.

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I also didn't mention this earlier. I wasn't sure like where kind of to fit it in with the story

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because it had a certain flow. But many bodies from older cemeteries in Portland had to be transferred

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too long for due to the marshy earth. So I don't know if you remember any stories of Portland where

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it was like, "Floody and like bodies were kind of... it's a bit safe." Rising back up. Yeah.

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There's a lot of riverage in the city. So yeah. Yeah. This land is a little more stable.

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So they do have a lot of people who have been moved from other cemeteries.

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I'm really glad that I haven't eaten yet today. Is this place haunted?

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Probably. Is that a serious question? Probably from all of the shit that I just told you, all the

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displacements, all of the unmarked craves, all of the stolen angel statues. Just the what the

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fuck of it all? A lot of things. A lot of things. Most describe seeing kind of misty figures walking

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across the cemetery during the daytime as well as after dark. Oh cool. Some people say they see a younger

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woman wearing a red dress who is just kind of like walking around the grounds. She doesn't seem to be

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angry or in pain or anything. She's just kind of walking around but kind of like oblivious to other

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people. Just casual. Yeah. Okay. A lot of other people say that they see a shadowy woman dressed in

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French clothing. Walking around the cemetery. Like a mage uniform or not like a mage.

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What makes it French? Like French dresses like that French fashion. Okay. Of the times, you know,

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back in the way that day's okay. Period clothing. Yes. Is that like period panties? No. Oh, like

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period of time. I didn't like it like an era. It's a red dress. Maybe it is a period dress.

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Oh no, that was the other way. Is this the woman? Wait. Where did I get red dress from? Did I say that?

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You did. When? I mean, was that not a part of the story? Oh, it was the first one. Okay. Okay. I was like,

361
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you definitely said it. Sorry. Yeah. That was the first figure. I don't know if they're the same or not.

362
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First ones have the red dress. It's choosing to make them one in the same. Anyway, it could be the same

363
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woman who knows. But this woman in the French dress or French fashion. I assume it's a dress.

364
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I would think so. Okay. Because like, people weren't women weren't wearing pants back then. I know.

365
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Depending on like specifically when. Yeah. It was illegal at points in certain parts of the

366
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world for women to wear pants. So fucking weird. I could dress as a safe pattern. Yeah. Yeah.

367
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Probably a dress. Yeah. Well, when this woman is approached, she like throws her hands up and screams.

368
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And then she does her favorite thing. She disappears. I feel like while normally that's not my favorite,

369
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I do feel like that is an improvement over the screaming. Yeah. The screaming is hard. That makes me sad.

370
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Yeah. Yeah. Screaming dead lady is not my fave. But it could be like, you know, like a dimension,

371
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like time slip kind of thing where she thinks you're the fucking ghost. And she's like, oh,

372
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fucking ghost and screams. Like, maybe she's not in pain or anything. She just scared too. Okay.

373
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Yeah. That's a perfectly reasonable explanation. That makes me feel better about it.

374
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You know, I'm glad that that helps you. There weren't a lot of other accounts of hauntings here.

375
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Mostly just, you know, the misty things, the figures, feeling of being watched, that kind of thing.

376
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There is another story that has been repeated in some articles. It was originally from Reddit. And it was

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someone describing something that might not have been a ghost, something that is maybe just

378
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easily explained as being Portland. I really want to read this though in a Patreon bonus because the

379
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red is fucking hilarious. It's so funny. So I want to read that. I don't want to include that story

380
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as part of this because I don't think it was a haunting. Just a bit off topic. Yeah. Okay. I don't

381
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think it was relevant. But I love that for us. I want to read it for Patreon. So we'll do that not

382
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today, but I'll put it together another time. Oh, okay. Let's go. I do, I do wonder

383
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that with the remodel of the healing garden and stuff, like what what's going to come up?

384
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Because you know, ghosts kind of get more active when things are changing.

385
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Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if it's necessarily like going to be bad things that are happening,

386
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but it might just be a little more active while they're they're building the memorials.

387
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Okay. Yeah. So everyone go visit right now while it's at its most active or don't or just stay

388
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home and just wear cozy sweaters and your ugg slippers and you know, drink wine on your couch.

389
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I'll go. I might be going soon because I did a very spooky, Cassie thing to do. Yeah.

390
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I am now a photo volunteer on Find a Grave. So they they need people to take pictures because they,

391
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you know, they track like every single grave and some people kind of request to have certain

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graves photographed and whatnot. So okay, well great. Now that I know that I have a list that you can

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start working through. For your personal use. Well, I mean in connection with the podcast.

394
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They might be on Find a Grave, but I could probably take a better picture. Yeah. Also that.

395
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I also am thinking about volunteering to help clean headstones and stuff.

396
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They have a lot of volunteer opportunities. You can they have a class that like teaches you how.

397
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They have tours at this place. Everything's on their website. You can find things, but they have

398
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different types of tours to learn about the history and the people. And then during that

399
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Halloween time, they have special like kind of spooky tours. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean,

400
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I need advance warning if you start posting down graves. If you become a grave janitor, I feel like

401
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the needs of my home for I just need to know ahead of time. I'm going to it's going to involve a lot

402
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of crystals and herbs. I'll be protected. I will be I know how to protect myself. I will not make

403
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sure nothing follows me home. I know, but what I'm worried about is that despite your desire to

404
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indirect, it doesn't want you. It wants to get to me because they're like, sugar I like a lethal

405
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girl. Well, if they can't attach to me, they can't get to you. Okay. I'll just I won't think about

406
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you all one there. They won't even know about you. Yeah. You're like you're in the witness protection

407
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program, but you're like in the ghost protection program. You know, we're we're we're going to workshop

408
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it because I feel like it's there's something there. It's not like we're not there yet. Yeah,

409
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whatever. No one tell any ghosts about Caitlyn's existence. Yes, please. Thank you. Well,

410
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should we do some tarot? Yeah, I'm excited. Let's use some tarot and our cute little graveyard altar.

411
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It's very cute. We have a special kind of riddle. It's the what is it? Cemetery stroll. Cemetery stroll

412
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from mythic wick. Mythic? Yeah, I said it right. Yeah. Thank you, Jocelyn.

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As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows. So stay tuned for the

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418
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Yeah, he like marries all his stepmoms. I'm your host, Ashley Love Richards. Find That So Fucked Up,

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anywhere you listen to podcasts. That's Forth Up. You guys were back. And don't worry, we did get more

420
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wine. Well, of course, we're here at the tarot. We're back. We're back. We have lit our beautiful

421
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cemetery stroll candle. It smells like grass and rain. It smells like what does it say? I think

422
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grass and rain. It smells like an impromptu walk through the cemetery in the rain. How cute is my

423
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little cemetery? I know you can't see some of the headstones, but that's what pictures are for.

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There you go. Okay, do you guys want to help me pick send me all your energy from the future?

425
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Okay, well, this one came out, but yeah. Okay. Oh, okay. We got the star in reverse. And then

426
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the queen of cups. Oh, okay. I kept seeing that card. I did too. Is that weird? I was seeing it too

427
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while you were shuffling and while I was shuffling. Okay. Oh, and I turned right to it. So,

428
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oh, okay. Our key words are creativity, fertility, strong emotion, change, and intuition.

429
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Usually the queen of cups appears seated on a throne, wearing a crown and lovely garments. A beautiful

430
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woman she exudes warm sensuality and maternal caring. Oh, like the sex workers. Oh, and they were like

431
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sweet too. Yeah. Okay. And dressed in nice clothes. Or like one of the ghosts at least was, you know.

432
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The French, French, where in a reading, the queen may signify an actual person. When she does,

433
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it's usually a mature woman who's creative, nurturing, changeable, intuitive, devoted as a wife or

434
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mother and highly emotional, sometimes a drama queen. Oh, sounds like me today. Yeah, I feel like

435
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just picking up our hands like chaos. All right. The upright queen represents deep emotions,

436
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compassion, and caring. When she comes up, you're experiencing strong feelings about someone or

437
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something. She can also urge you to use your intuition to express your creativity. If this card

438
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signifies a real person, she's nurturing and generous, a mother figure, ruled by her heart,

439
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not her head. She's changeable and sometimes unreliable. Okay. Interesting. There's an extra excerpt

440
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and then I'll read the three bullet points. Okay. The queen of cups is like a body of water,

441
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ever flowing onward as she brings inspiration and feeling to the world. Though she may sometimes

442
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seem as mutable as the sea itself, she is ever true to her heart. Oh, I like that. It's always like

443
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,520
reminding me of the change that's going on in the... Why am I doing this? I don't know what I'm doing,

444
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but the change for the memorial, you know, it's very emotional for a lot of people and there's a lot of...

445
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:34,960
I assume a lot of intuition involved in that and creativity and... Yeah. In reading about money,

446
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the queen can mean earning money from a creative activity. Earning money for? Raising money for maybe? Yeah.

447
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Or... Yeah. Often she recommends being flexible and willing to make changes. Use your intuition as

448
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:59,120
well as your intellect in financial matters. I wonder how many times the like the plans had to be

449
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changed and, you know? Yeah, I feel like that's a good point. If the reading is about your job,

450
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this can be a creative and inspired time for you. To be happy, you need to be able to use your

451
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:18,720
imagination in your job. Sometimes the queen shows unreal... An unrealistic attitude about work or a

452
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:26,640
desire to be taken care of rather than working. In a reading about love, the upright queen

453
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:34,480
represents a deeply romantic, sensual and emotional relationship. All like if all of your clients

454
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like paid for... Yeah. Here, memorial, headstone. Yes. Words are hard. And the couple holding hands forever.

455
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Yeah. With the not creepy headstone. Yeah, with the headstone. Yeah. Of indeterminate creepiness.

456
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:04,560
If this card signifies a real person, she's probably manipulated. Oh, I... Oops. I started to skip

457
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down into the room. I was like, "Whoa, this took a turn." Yeah, it really did. You open yourself to a

458
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:19,280
partner and lavish him or her with love. Sometimes the queen advises you to be more discriminating.

459
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This is a fortunate card if you want to have children. Well, I don't think any of these people

460
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:32,960
are having any children anytime soon. Probably not. It was kind of reminding me though,

461
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:41,200
there was a lot of people who purchased headstones or like grays for other people. Yeah.

462
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There was a lot of care-taking on the part of others. Yeah. It was like giving me that vibe.

463
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I know I was talking about a couple, but you know. Yeah, but I don't know that it necessarily

464
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is exclusive to that though, either. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a vibe.

465
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:13,040
Oh, you're going to love that. Oh, yay. Yay. Okay. I think the star, key words, are happiness,

466
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hope, light at the end of the tunnel, which that is some powerful imagery associated with death.

467
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:27,680
Yeah. You're going to come up in this reading. It is. I kind of like, what is that guy too?

468
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Is that the morning death? I can't remember. Oh, I think you're right. I think you're right. I know

469
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:42,800
it's on one of the cards we've gotten recently, but okay. Hope, which whispered from Pandora's Box,

470
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:51,520
only after all the other plagues and sorrows had escaped, is the best and last of all things. Wow. Yeah.

471
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I love that quote. It is a morning dove, which is fucking crazy. Yeah.

472
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:07,440
Okay. And we got this in the reverse, but there is another extra excerpt. Optimism is the faith

473
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:17,840
that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence, which there was a lot of

474
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:24,480
people fighting to get this cast. Get these people memorized, memorized, remembered. Yeah. Memorial

475
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:32,240
lessons. Yeah. They needed a lot of hope and persistence. You're going to shit. Remember how they

476
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:42,080
had taken one of her eyes? Oh, yeah. Do you want to guess who that quote is from in the second excerpt?

477
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:51,040
I don't know. It's Helen Keller. Oh, weird. Interesting.

478
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:59,520
Okay. And then here's the reverse. Trust life and its process. And yourself.

479
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The reverse star can mean you're following your path in a private way instead of shining your

480
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:13,840
light into the outer world. Hmm. The blessings you receive may be spiritual rather than material.

481
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:23,200
So yeah, all these people are just buried in the dirt. Yeah. Privately. Which perhaps you feel

482
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:33,920
devitalized, uninspired or low on self esteem at this time. Oh, after you attune yourself to what

483
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:42,880
your soul needs, you'll feel more energized and in harmony with who you truly are. Wow. This

484
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:51,440
is really cool. In a reading about money, you may feel disappointed because a hoped for payment or

485
01:01:51,440 --> 01:02:03,600
payoff gets delayed. It's just a couple of years, you know, 2008 to 2026. Yeah. After you're dead for almost

486
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:10,960
a month. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Even though you're trying hard, your efforts don't bear much fruit.

487
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:21,200
The time may not be right yet. Don't give up. I hope it's right right now. Yeah.

488
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:27,360
It seems like now we're in the final stages. I hope so. I don't know if they've actually started

489
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:35,840
construction yet. I haven't seen any of the last pictures I see or like a sign of like,

490
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:43,840
this is what's coming. Anyway, we get there eventually. Yeah. If the reading is about your job,

491
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:52,720
you may be hiding your light under a bushel. Okay. Perhaps you don't realize your true abilities

492
01:02:52,720 --> 01:03:00,720
and thus aren't getting ahead as quickly as you could. The star reversed can also represent

493
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:09,200
disillusionment, disenchantment, or lack of inspiration. In a reading about love, this card can mean

494
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:16,400
your expectations are unrealistic. You're searching for perfection, which can never be attained.

495
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:22,880
Or it can indicate you aren't seeing your partner or relationship clearly.

496
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:31,920
I feel like this interpretation, I'm the first two bullet points are speaking to me.

497
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:39,920
I think the stuff about the perfection stuff, they're never going to, unfortunately,

498
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,440
they're probably never going to find everybody and who all of these people are,

499
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,560
because they don't even know where some of them are, some of them are under the parking lot.

500
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:56,880
They're never going to have perfection in this situation, but they're building something.

501
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,000
They're doing something, but it's not going to be perfect.

502
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,520
Yeah, I mean, I think just by virtue of this project being necessary,

503
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:13,440
like you can say, yeah, it's not going to be perfect because we didn't do maybe the best things

504
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:21,680
to begin with. So now it's all about what is going to be the best remedy.

505
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:27,280
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was so perfect. Wow, even though I struggled talking,

506
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,880
hopefully that wasn't too hard for everyone to listen to. Listen, sometimes your brain hurts and

507
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:41,680
that's all you know in that moment. Yeah. I think I can't remember. Did I read this one

508
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:49,520
last time we got it? She's read it again. I don't know if I, if I could say for sure.

509
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:56,160
Well, yeah, now you have to read it, obviously. This is interesting, then it says that word.

510
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:03,040
Okay. Okay. Doug was most at home in the sky. He had taken flight at dawn. From darkness

511
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,400
filled with trepidation and fear, he flew toward the bright beacon above the horizon.

512
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:17,200
Doug's wings kept him aloft into the daylight. Through the forest, valley and wasteland, heading over

513
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:24,320
toward that morning star, still shining in the distance. As Doug journeyed, his heart lightened,

514
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:33,120
he felt echoes of past pilgrims, which is interesting pilgrims because they were like all like

515
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,480
pioneer cemeteries, you know, to begin with. Yeah. I don't know if that's like the same type of thing.

516
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:47,520
Listen, I'm just going to say that's a, it's interesting that that specific word is inserted there.

517
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:54,320
Yeah. Yeah. His path intertwined with those of other travelers. He left his fear behind. He

518
01:05:54,320 --> 01:06:03,280
weathe. I did read this before because I struggled on this one too. He wield joyously in the sky

519
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:09,440
and skimmed above the clouds, flying higher than he had any right to. He tested the boundaries of

520
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:15,520
himself and the world he inhabited. A part of him hoped that he would never reach the star,

521
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:21,920
not wanting to, not wanting the journey to end, the rest of him wondered what will happen when he

522
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:30,880
got there. That's really interesting. Yeah. That's very indicative of the afterlife. Yeah. Wow.

523
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:40,960
That's what's so weird. It like is still hitting me that we got the morning dove. Yeah. Wow.

524
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Hey, did you like listening to that terror read? Yeah. Do you want to see it with your eyeballs?

525
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:56,000
I mean, I did, but yeah. Maybe that was a poor choice of words after this episode.

526
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Anyway, if you want to see it, it's on our Patreon. We did a full moon oracle card pull from my moon deck,

527
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:11,520
what's it called? My moon oracle deck. Yeah. Just for Patreon this week, they also get the

528
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ad-free version of the episode. But you might be asking yourself, what is Patreon? Patreon is a monthly

529
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subscription with a range of price points and benefits. Every member of our Patreon gets a personalized

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:33,600
welcome card and a shout out in an upcoming episode as well as exclusive bonus episodes and so much

531
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more, including the mini-turo reading that goes into the welcome card, which we frequently forget

532
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:47,520
to mention when we talk about the welcome card. Yeah. That's in there. Also, there's still time if you

533
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,840
join in February and you stay for two months, you get a self-love spell jar. You get our creepy people

534
01:07:53,840 --> 01:08:00,400
stickers. Yeah. All the information is on there. They'll tell you like what tears get them and stuff.

535
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:08,400
And we did talk about a bonus episode for this one. You've talked about a bonus you're doing. There's

536
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,240
just a lot of bonuses coming up. There's a lot of bonusy bonuses. All the bones. Yeah.

537
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:23,520
We are also going to be doing some fun cold reading. We're going to be reading to you from a book called

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:33,120
Born to Be Weird, Demented Fantasy and Bizarre Horror. And we're going to be doing it from a walk-in freezer.

539
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:44,080
That part is not true. Cold reading. Okay. I'll just not turn on the heat before you come over. Is that cool?

540
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:50,080
Yeah, I'll bundle up. Okay. Yeah. No. But that's something we're going to be doing for the Patreon. Come

541
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:56,720
in up here. We're just mixing it up. Doing some fun fun things. Yeah. We like fun things. Yeah.

542
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If you have any stories, we're still doing creepy people chronicles. So send them in true crime

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paranormal witchy stories to pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com. Did I say that right? Yeah. Okay. Wow. Look at that. She nailed it. That was like...

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It came out so fast I was not sure if I actually said it correctly. Yeah.

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e also have a Google contact link in the episode description. And our link tree website will be (www.pnwhauntsandhomicides.com)

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in there as well. So you can find us on all the socials and all the things. Oh yeah. And I forgot to say it

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when you were talking about that story on Reddit, but we're on there. Yeah. We're on the Reddit.

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We're on the Reddit. Caitlyn likes to get karma. I have no idea what this means.

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I know. But I think it's a good thing. It really speaks to me.

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Karma is... It's kind of like points. Oh, I was going Taylor Swift. Karma is my boyfriend. Karma is a cat

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on my lap. What else is karma? Yeah. I mean it's that. The breeze through my hair on the weekend.

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Is that part of it? Yes. Yes. Reddit does transact directly with warm pleasant breezes.

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Warm pleasant Taylor Swift lyrics. Okay. Yep. That's fax. Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday.

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Or you know. All right. Well, don't go bearing any bodies unmarked in cemeteries because we just

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shouldn't do that to anybody anymore. Yeah. No. I don't think so. Like even if they're a like

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shitty person serial killer, I still want their grave marked because like you don't want to be

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building shit on top of that. I was going to say yeah maybe still it's good idea because like we

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want to build their house on that. No. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah. I wonder how many buildings are on top of bodies.

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I have this one for sure. It's on something. It's on something I don't like.

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Oh my god. Are we doing it? Did we do it? Is it over?

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Bad news, is not over. Oh my god. Is that Taylor Swift song? Is it over? No. I don't know.