Pain in Puyallup - Part 1

0:00 With fast, isolated stretches of open road carving a path through the immense forest in many areas, it's the perfect playground for those that have a passion for the outdoors. Though as has been evidenced, time and time again, the areas that have remained rugged outside the city limits can also be the ideal devil's playground for many different types of misty needs. So think about that next time you tell me that the lumberjack chic all a dexter is so safe. Hi Cassie. Hi Caitlyn. Hi creepy people. Hello! Hello! If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides where we chat about true crime, paranormal and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the episode. So make sure you stick around if you're into that. We will be here.

1:12 Yeah. Are you into it? Us and our crystals and our wine will be here. Yeah. You know what? We're going to have to procure a lighter at some point for our candle. Oh yes. You can't make flames with your fingers yet. Come on. I cannot. Basic which one? I am basic but... All right. Well, I feel like we're very clearly stalling now. And I know why I am. I don't know why you would want to stall that. I want to talk about ghosts. Okay. Well, you know, maybe later. Promises have been made. I mean, I said maybe. I feel like a mom at the mall. I said maybe. She's about to throw herself on the floor. Oh, I will throw tantrum. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. The Pacific Northwest has at times been thought of even referred to outright as a safe haven for serial killers.

2:17 Oh, I don't like that. Neither does that car driving by. I thought that was a plane. Yeah. It I mean could have been anything. Could have been a guy on a lawn mower. That's so funny. My first thought was lawn mower. But I was like motor cycle. Seems more plausible. But you know what? Let's just go with it. With fast, isolated stretches of open road, carving a path through the immense forest. In many areas, it's the perfect playground for those that have a passion for the outdoors. Though as has been evidenced time and time again, the areas that have remained rugged outside the city limits can also be the ideal devil's playground for many different types of misdeeds. So think about that next time you tell me that the lumberjack chic a-la-Dexter is so sexy. I mean, I have nothing to say.

3:23 Although I prefer the devil's playground to be hell, just like playing your own space, you know? Yeah. Stay in your lane. Puyallup.com, boasts the Washington State Fair held in Puyallup is the largest event held each year in the state of Washington. Ooh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't either, actually. And it's kind of a big deal. Kids get out of school early and according to some locals that we actually know from what happens in the woods. Hey, hey, the kids are even given some free tickets. Oh, so pretty sweet. That's cool. I know.

4:08 Between foot and road traffic for the fair, Puyallup's population is said to temporarily roughly quadruple. Whoa. Yeah. So like people are coming from out of town, converging on core wrecked. I was going to have you say. Puyallup. Puyallup. Puyallup. Okay. According to the city website, the fair repeatedly ranks as one of the top 10 fairs in the United States. Dang. What's one through nine? Go. I don't know. Damn it. Not, not rank in them. Not what we're doing here. Each year, the Washington State Fair hosts two annual events, the larger event spanning roughly two weeks of the month of September, while the spring event in April lasts less than a handful of days. The fair is a huge draw for visitors throughout the state, as well as elsewhere in the region, although apparently maybe not all the way down here in Portland, since neither of us knew about it, but yeah, I don't know. No event of this scale in the Pacific Northwest would be complete without remarkably tasty and unique food to match the desires of the local populace, because you know, we some foodies. Why are you talking about food? I'm hungry. I know. I'm so sorry. You picked a really bad episode to

5:40 show up hungry. Oh, no. Should we cut for a food time? Yeah, let's after eight minutes of recording. Let's go. Because we've worked really hard. We've been working so hard. Larry Ball, the owner of earthquakes burgers, shared his own arrest journey from Usher in the grandstands of the fairgrounds to pervert of beloved burgers. It's like a real rags to reach his kind of a, it's cute. Yeah. I love it. Oh, yeah. A building yep. So I can tear you down. Don't tear down the earthquake burgers. Not the burgers. He had worked the grandstands for 15 years while he was busy living life and trying to make ends meet through various side hustles and seasonal gigs. Eventually, he decided to set up his own burger stand. Initially, the stand was built out of plywood with a plastic roof located outside the gates to the fairgrounds. Oh, the gates in this story play a prominent role just as many others have throughout all of mankind's often brutal existence. The wait, gates, gates, gates, yeah, gates, you know, letting people in, keeping people out. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was very confused. I wasn't

7:10 sure. Yeah, I was like, I'm not sure where we do you know what do you want another visual I had in my head. Yeah. I've just like gates closing on people and like smashing them. Okay. I want you to put a pin in that. Put a pin in that. Okay. No, I don't like it. No, I don't want it. No, just put a pin in that. I don't want it. Once he settled on the particulars of his plan in 1992, the first earthquake burgers were born aptly named for a burger of such ample serving size now with a reputation of seemingly near zeitgeist proportion to match. Oh, they be legendary. How big are they? Are you going to tell us? Fucking huge. They're fucking huge.

7:54 They have a poundage. You know that they probably do. I could look really quick. Do you think it's like a pound burger? It's like a half pound burger. You know, let me see. I looked at a very specific article that talked about how big they were and I remember feeling like, it's got to be bigger because like McDonald's don't they do like a double quarter pounder, isn't that about like a half a pound? I think so. I don't know that it's like it's bigger than any other burger out there. I just think that typically at a fair, I don't know that you see like huge burgers like this. Yeah. But everything at fairs are like big. It's true, right? Like the giant turkey leg. That's what I usually think of the corn dog is like the like foot long corn dog. You like a big corn dog. I do. Yes.

8:45 If a picture of me eating one and a guy in the background staring at me if we want to post it to Patreon. Yeah. Yeah. We do. Yeah. To dig that one out. That's hilarious. It is really funny. Wow. It looks like they're like half pound burgers. It says nearly two pounds of burger, a half pound of beef, grilled to perfection, and a pound of curly fries per order await. That's like what? So like the whole meal that's two pounds? I think so. I think that's what they're saying. Yeah. So it's just like epic proportions. Curly fries. Oh, that's so funny. It opened for 13 years. This fixed location drew a crowd of diners near and far. Earthquakes giant burgers, which once came in smaller sizes such as the tremor. Oh, designed for a mere mortals digestive tract at a still hefty quarter pound weight. Have often compared to the likeness or the likewise legendary miners burgers near Yakima. Wow. Can I get a vegan tremor, please? I don't think so. Yeah.

10:05 Rude. Well, I don't know. Suck it up buttercup. I think this is a really cute quote from Larry. Oh, Larry said they make a damn good burger. I'm happy to be compared to miners anytime. Oh, that is cute. That is cute. All right. But believe it or not, we're not here to proselytize about any of the Pacific Northwest, many seemingly supernatural number of burger chains. Many of which arguably reach near mythical levels of fandom. When was the last time that in and out opened and people absolutely lost their shit? Like two years ago. Yeah. And there's a bunch of other burger chains that have been like opening up over time. I think one of them's called super deluxe. There's shake shacks opening up all over the place. I don't know. America just likes its burgers. I love our burgers. But how fun would it be to do a podcast where we enjoyed one of the Pacific Northwest greenest natural resources and reviewed local food? I'm down.

11:18 TM. TM. I want to do it right now. Can we review some food right now? I don't care what it is. I'll review it. I'll agree. Instead, this week, we have something of a historical walkabout. Maybe it's just because I've been binging lost for the first time. But I really do think it all has a cohesive way of explaining why there's plenty of pain in puyaleb. And we'll barely scratch the surface because we aren't going to touch on indigenous populations in the territory. For now, that's honestly a topic in the Pacific Northwest that could be an entire podcast in its own right.

12:08 And while I'm probably not the right person for that particular desk for that show, I'm sure we'll be back and I'll do my best like always. But nailing Puyallup so far, so... Y-Y-Y-Y-Y- Indeed. Which leads in nicely to something else that I want to say. It's not entirely a tangent. But you know what? Whatever. Here it goes. I have to take a moment to say that I'm deeply touched by the listeners that reach out to us with case suggestions. And particularly those that reach out with incredibly rare nuggets and gems from communities that we may not be a part of, particularly, to help us share new and important stories. I'm looking at all of you in the Facebook discussion group. And particularly I wanted to mention our dude, Dewi. Hopefully it's okay that I called you, dude. Dewi, dude? Yeah. You should know it's a hardy term of endearment in my book. I agree.

13:25 Yeah. My one wish is to have more hours to do this each week. Join our Patreon. Keep sending the suggestions in because I promise you we're furiously working away at as many of them as the inspiration and resources line up for each story. Actually just recently someone mentioned a topic in the Facebook discussion group that we're not only planning to cover, but that we'll be visiting very soon. Oh really? Is it the thing that we're going on next weekend? Yeah. What was the suggestion? It was oh okay. Yeah. Anyways, that is probably already too many beans spilled. Everything in this is food. Don't spill beans! I’m talking about nuggets. Now I'm talking about beans. I'm so sorry.

14:21 It's completely unintentional, but I'm clearly a witch. God damn it. If you were a witch, why didn't you tell me to eat? You know, you win some, you lose some. While not every episode will be laden with bombshells of earth shattering truth, I will do my best to find plenty of those cases that help us to focus on something that I feel like is bigger than any one person and certainly bigger than our little show. Although we're pretty excited today because we just found out that we are about to be a show that takes up a little bit more space. Yeah, we are. We're women and we're taking up space.

15:05 Watch out. Oh my god. No man spreading allowed in the pod lab. Only woman spreading. Yes. I promise you though, there's no case that's too obscure for us to care deeply about. Only those that I cannot find source material for. I hope that makes sense to all of you. Please don't think you can't just DM us a missing person poster because we'll share it. If the case is new or unknown, even if I can't offer you the coverage that it deserves because I don't have network backing somehow yet. We'll share it. We believe that each of those cases deserve to be shared so whatever we can do will strive to always. Before we get into a true crime case ripped from the headlines of our youth, we're going to get into the way back machine. What I stumbled on through the course of my research is nothing short of heart wrenching and it reverberates throughout decades of Pacific Northwest history. Because what I learned is that even in just the last 100 years or so, the very same grounds where the fair has been held have been the setting of more human misery than I could have imagined. In some cases, racism and nationalism driven by war and the

16:44 accompanying fear rapidly growing the world over has been the catalyst. In others, that suffering has been produced in some form or fashion by what most of us can only imagine as an evil, animalistic impulse. In any case, that human suffering can quickly turn countless strangers into a community bonded by whatever shape that shared trauma takes in the face of unimaginable tragedy. But first, back to the fair. Okay. Established in 1900, the Washington State Fair was far from its infancy. When Camp Harmony was established, that sounds nice. Yep, Harmony, it's a good thing, right? Harmony. But that name is simply a euphemism and I have to say that Camp Harmony is a rather flowery one in this case. The Puyallup assembly center, as its otherwise known, was a temporary facility during World War Two. And even that is a euphemism compared to the commonly accepted nomenclature in modern times, which so far as I'm aware is internment camp.

18:17 I know where you're going with that. You did. I was like, I'm not sure if she's uncomfortable because she knows exactly where I'm going or if she can't quite like. Yeah, as soon as you said camp, I was like, okay, I know where this is going. Land, a camp, true crime, I get it. Yeah. Specifically, the facility housed several thousand Japanese Americans during World War Two. Not hundreds, thousands. And they were kept in deplorable conditions that by today's standard, I think you now have to book a glamping trip through Airbnb to experience from a weekend.

19:10 But, excuse me. Except back then, you didn't get to pick the place where you'd end up. And when you arrived, it might be filthy or cold. Which, to be honest, sounds like our Airbnb last year for PNW True Crime Fest. filthy cold and haunted. Yeah. And you may end up having barely enough to eat, which sounds less familiar. You can't take the vast majority of your stuff, which getting cold again because you know we overpacked for that podcast trip. Yeah. And that stuff you left, well, it may or may not be there when you get back later. And no one gives a shit about your one-star review.

20:00 I do. Yeah. Basically, what I'm saying is we might have ended up with a less-than-steller booking for that trip, but it pails in comparison, obviously. Yeah. But, you know, just trying to put this in terms that the kids can relate to these days, you know? The kids. The kids. Where are the kids? We are. I act like one. A little bit. Based on the widely accepted figures of the time, the roughly 7,400 people interned in Puyallup account for doubling the population of Puyallup during the internment period. Yep. They had the population all in one area.

20:57 So the entire fairgrounds were inhabited by the same number of people as everywhere else in Puyallup. Holy shit. Put that like as plainly as possible so you can just kind of sit with that fact for a second. Yeah, you said it way better than I did because my mind was just like, yeah. What? The mind, it boggles. These were individuals of Japanese descent primarily from the west coast, from areas like western Washington and even as far as the state of Alaska. Damn. Yeah. They just round them all up. Yes. Yes. What the fuck? It's so much worse than you think.

21:47 And I know that we learned a lot about this in history, but there's a lot of stuff that was really glossed over or specifics that we just are not made aware of on a, just a fundamental level of like historical education. So I've learned more like researching ghosts in this fucking podcast than I did in school. Yeah. Literally. Yep. But as might be implied by the term temporary facility, many, if not the majority, would be carted off to other encampments such Minidoka, Tule Lake and heart mountain throughout Idaho, California and Wyoming. All of which was authorized by the War Relocation Authority under Executive Order 9066. The War Relocation Authority. Authority under an Executive Order. In case you're not keeping track, it's typically the individual in the Oval Office that issues executive orders.

23:02 So let me be blunt. If you think elections don't matter, particularly presidential elections, I'd like you to consider the impact of being able to issue the type of order that involuntarily displaces, relocates and essentially in prisons somewhere in the neighborhood of 110,000 people based on little more than what amounts to superstition. The cowboys probably have more justification for disliking Jessica Simpson, which is a ridiculous comparison, but which brings up a whole nother point about feminism, but it's fine. We won't go there. Yeah. I mean, this patriarchy. Yeah. Deep cut sports saying reference, but like it's the only one I have.

23:56 Cassie, if you remind me at the end of this, I'll tell you the one and only sports adjacent joke that I know. Oh, okay. Does it have to do with balls? Not really. Darn. Yeah. You had a question. Yes. Are you going to tell us who the president was during World War II? Yeah. It was a bruise. Now that you say it, I'm like, I want to know. Yeah. It was, I mean, it's a president that's typically beloved. I hope it's not friend of the pod FDR. We're going to have to stop calling in friend of the pod, which is fine. I will take back things that I've said. Franklin D Roosevelt was our 30 second president 1933 to 1945. When was the war? It ended right towards the end of his presidency in most places in the world. So it was him. It was. So Franklin, Delano Roosevelt. Yes.

25:04 Cancelled. No longer a friend of the pod. I think we really we only called him that because he kept showing up in the story, not really because we had like an affinity towards him. Is that what you say? Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen. The cap word of the week. I've been listening to a lot of books. Okay. Shm ready pants. There was a word you said earlier. I meant to ask what it meant. I didn't. I didn't. Well, you said some big word in the beginning. And I was like, the fuck does that mean? Prosletize. Yes. Prosletize. I'm going to read you the definition because I feel like now you're going to be able to judge me on whether or not I used it correctly. So, um, okay. So there's two definitions. When you Google prosletize, convert or attempt to convert someone from one religion, belief or opinion to another or advocate or promote a belief or a course of action. So in this case, we would be promoting burgers. Makes sense to me. Okay. Cool. I've gotten that note from some of my friends who listen and they're like, Caitlyn uses a lot of big words. And I like when you ask what it means because I was going to ask when it meant. Okay. Well, that makes me feel like kind of an asshole.

26:31 No, no, no. I don't think it's like you're just like educating me more than like, okay. Like in a fun way, not a douchey way. Yeah. Okay. I just don't want to sound like a douche. It's like one word in episode. It's not like not every episode. It's not like constantly. You're like, I don't like this podcast. She makes me feel dumb. I like that about it. It happens to me with other podcasts too. Like I've had that happen with podcasts. Sure. Yeah. Like how else are you supposed to learn words? It's not like I read like a bunch of like academic bookage. Yeah. But bookage. I think the word you're looking for is literature. Bookage. And the risk of sounding like a douche.

27:18 I love myself. Okay. I love you too. Okay. Some people attempt to be a force for good and for change. George Tsutakawa created a memorial statue that's located just within the entrance of the fairgrounds. But it's not the only piece in the state of Washington that has been lovingly created to commemorate both the place of his family's upbringing and the complicated past that it carries. One such piece, the Tsutakawa Memorial Gates, disappeared from Seattle's Washington Park Arboretum on March 18th of 2020. The whole ass gate disappeared? Mm-hmm. Just days after the Pacific Northwest entered lockdown during the Great Panini crisis. Wow. All attempts at joking aside.

28:18 I don't relish the thought of the potential Asian hate sentiment that may have been behind. What I view personally as kind of a heinous act of vandalism at the time. Yeah. I'd like to think that was just the result of lockdowns, stir craziness. But the last few years have left me with a feeling that's probably unlikely. Yeah. But let's dwell on the words of a true artist far more gifted than myself instead of that thought. And I've edited only for brevity. This is a quote from him. Actually from his son.

29:03 The antique bronze gates subdued in the reflected sunlight are cunningly designed, but so sturdily built as to resist time and its erosion. As noted by a 1976 Arboretum bulletin, covering the installation of the gates designed by UW professor George Tsutakawa, a noted American sculptor. And this is the quote from his son. My father expressed the idea that the sturdy bronze material he used for dozens of sculptures and fountains could last for hundreds of years.

29:45 Instead, the memorial gates, which sat near the north entry to the Washington Park Arboretum at the Graham Visitors Center, were destroyed almost 45 years after they were lovingly installed and dedicated. Thieves cut through the supports and quickly loaded the two heavy gates, 20 feet wide in total, into a truck to be hauled away and sold for scrap. Presumably. Is it because they were made of copper? Did you say copper? Bronze.

30:25 Sorry. Yeah. That doesn't even make any sense. I was like copper. Okay. Don't people like sell copper for shit, right? Yeah. Bronze? They do. I don't know. I don't know if bronze has a similar. Clearly, there must be a similar market. That's a lot of fucking work though. Yep. It's almost like it seems as though you'd have to be trying to make some sort of a statement beyond just the theft, because I'm sure there would be easier things to steal. Yeah. Well, somewhere between the involuntary imprisonment of men, women, and children in this country, then later the maddening theft, dating to a more recent time, is another disappearance. And it's not the only one of its kind in the area, sadly. And while we could probably talk about some of the dark history of the area for multiple episodes, I'm actually going to change gears just slightly, because as I said, there's plenty of pain in Puyallup. This is the story of the mysterious disappearance of Misty Copsey from the Washington State Fair in Puyallup, Washington in 1992. Hopefully she had a taste of the earthquake burgers.

32:05 My hopes so. We're going to bounce around a little bit. I'm flexing my herstory muscles a bit. Oh, that's my favorite thing. Yeah. The further I fell down the rabbit hole, the further it seemed that there was for me to fall. Misty Copsey was born in 1978 to Diana Smith. That's Diana's maiden name, because I'm going to start calling her Diana Copsie through the rest of this. And Buck Copsie. Buck. Buck. Oh, man, I always go to kill Bill in my head. Is there a buck in that?

32:50 Yeah. I don't remember my name so long. Buck. Oh, huh. I watch. He also says that. Anyways, they were essentially already separated by the time that she came along, in fact, though. Misty was primarily raised by her mother thereafter. As she grew up, Misty was a successful student who played multiple sports, softball, basketball, volleyball, and was popular amongst her peers. Misty's best friend was Trina Bevard, aka Bean. Oh, and she referred to Misty as Bunyan. Bunyan?

33:35 No idea. I kids. I don't know. It's kids say the dirty things. Bean and Bunyan. It's something that a lot of sources commented on. They're kind of weird, but also pretty cute. I don't know. I don't get it, but oh, it's so cute. I don't know. If someone started calling me Bunyan as a nickname, I think I'd be like, yeah, I'm out. Maybe she was just always attached to her foot. I don't know. I don't know if that makes a lot of sense, but you know what? We're rolling with that.

34:17 She was a they were attached to the foot. Yep. Good old Bunyan. My friend used to call everything Bunyan's. So just like anything on her foot, if it like heard or something, we'd be like, oh, we have a Bunyan on our foot. I think we just thought it was a funny word. Yeah. I've never had a Bunyan. So yeah, I don't I don't know. So weird. Kids are weird. All right. Misty had grown up in the Green Meadow mobile park in Puyallup before she and her mother moved to a duplex in Spanaway. It was a nicer area and generally seemed like an upgrade for their family life as a duo. Though Misty would keep in touch with friends she'd made while living at Green Meadow. Kids are friends. They stay friends.

35:09 Oh, it's a close. I mean, relatively like it's a nearby community. It's not super close. It's, I mean, drivable, but they're not driving age yet. Is it like a phone or like a pen-pal situation? A little bit more. And then like they did still live close enough that, you know, activity is like going to the fair. You know, they could do things like that together still. Oh, yeah. Diana was a caregiver for an elderly woman in her 90s and she worked nights. So Misty spent many of her evenings alone at home. Misty and her friend Trina wanted to go to the fair in Puyallup as young teenage girls the thought of attending unshap around was undoubtedly incredibly alluring. The pair had managed to pull it off. Misty's mother, Diana Copsey, reluctantly dropped them off. The girls were eager for a taste of freedom, but not one of the aforementioned trio could have known how a night of frivolity might turn sour. Diana would later state that the last words they exchanged were "I love yous," followed by - and this is coming from the mother Diana - "Just don't screw this up or I'm never going to let you do anything else."

36:37 Of course Misty agreed. Of course. Yep. The plan was for them to get a ride home from a friend or ride the bus. Trina's parents were under the impression that the girls had transportation and some level of supervision it sounds like the whole time. They were not fully aware of what the situation really was. That happens. Yeah. And here's the thing. I won't pass too much judgment about Diana going along with what seemed like kind of a harmless white lie because I know it's something she's been beat up from all directions about. But she obviously knew she wasn't going to be able to pick up the girls when they were done at the fair. So she was aware that obviously they didn't have a ride home.

37:37 They were going to find someone or take the bus, but I don't know. There's something about the fair being in a public place. I'm sure that didn't seem like a very unsafe thing to do. In 1992, I think in a place like Puyallup. Yeah. Me and my friends used to take the bus all the time. Yeah. Well, not saying to let your kids do that. I'm just saying like, I'm saying that because there's another piece that yeah, well, you'll see. Okay. As girls attending a carnival or a fair might likely do in the best of circumstances, Misty and Trina lost track of time. Before they knew how much time had passed, the pair realized that they were too late to catch the last bus that might set them off on an easy course towards home. No. That particular bus line stopped running shortly before 9 p.m. Which doesn't seem very late, but it's also not at this point in time a huge busling metropolis either.

38:48 Yeah. Having realized their mistake, Misty called her mother to inform her that she had missed the bus and needed a ride home. Though Misty's mother Diana had gone along with the girls' white lie to Trina's parents about escorting them both ways, she truly was unable to leave her post at work. I mean, she's caring for a woman that's, you know, over 90 years old. Yeah. She always worked nights as a caregiver to that elderly woman. So Misty knew that that was the situation. So Diana told her daughter Misty that she needed to go through the electronic organizer.

39:33 She purchased for her recently and find either a family member or friend that would be able to give her a lift. Because obviously the bus is no longer an option. Diana and her daughter had actually hit a rough patch or two as she entered her teen years. Particularly after one fight over the summer in 1992, which led to Diana filing a missing persons report. Some say by mistake or an error, but in the end later she was too embarrassed to reach out to law enforcement to cancel the report. Which to law enforcement would later look like a little bit of a red flag. Maybe this is a kid that runs away from home frequently. But the fact that law enforcement had failed to follow up a single time in the months that followed on a report of a missing young girl would be lost on some people.

40:32 Oh. Yeah. Interesting. It's September at this point. Wow. So the fact that the police are not aware that Misty did in fact make it home. I think that's kind of on them personally. But all that they would see was a woman struggling with what most would describe as functional alcoholism. Diana appeared to be a problem drinker with multiple DUIs and a conviction for welfare fraud on her record for which she was able to negotiate a deferred sentence. She was a single mother doing what she had to in order to support her daughter holding down a job providing her a nice home. I mean, I think certainly maybe some of that stuff didn't work in her favor, but also Diana's not on trial here.

41:34 She's, you know, she has a missing child. Yeah. In fact, Diana's current position had enabled her to buy Misty a nice stereo and new clothes as they entered the school year. Misty attended Spanaway Lake, junior high that fall. And by all appearances, she was a happy, healthy and overall well-adjusted teenager. But as the days festivities were winding down for the girls at the fair and the dusky sky was settling in on the valley, Misty was still left in need of a ride back to her home in Spanaway. It was already getting dark and it was certainly too far to walk even in such pleasant summer weather.

42:22 It's believed that as Misty worked through the names and her electronic organizer, she did ask her friend Rheuban Schmidt for a ride, but he claimed he didn't have enough gas to pick her up. Getting a ride from Rheuban would have been in direct conflict with her mother's wishes at the time, but it seems that without transport, Misty thought it was worth a shot. Certainly that might have been more appealing than some of the other alternatives. Rheuban, for his part, was an 18-year-old high school dropout that Misty's mother did not approve of and with good reason. He drove a green 1974 Chevy Nova, but more importantly, he also had a crush on Misty. Diana was made very uncomfortable by what she overheard Rheuban saying to Misty on a particular phone call. It was super cringe, and you didn't need to be her mom to think so. Honestly, I felt very embarrassed on his behalf.

43:35 Misty had remained friends with Rheuban despite her mother's disapproval, but she did not return his feelings. She was not interested. I mean, he's older, like a lot older. He's like a man. I mean, it's all relative, but not 10. Oh, how old is she? Yeah, I think she would have been 14. I mean, either way, 13, 14, like, you know, that's too young. Like, I'm sorry. Like legally, it's too young. That's not an opinion. The payphone she called her mom from was just a couple of blocks from the fair, right outside the police department. Oh, nonetheless, this particular evening quickly became every parents' worst nightmare. That fact just makes it all the more bizarre that Misty has never been seen alive again since the night of the fair. And no one knows exactly what happened to her after parting ways with Trina. Oh, no. Trina actually lived close enough to where the fair took place that she said she just intended to walk home. It would come to light, I think, quite sometime later, that actually she had her boyfriend come and pick her up and drive her home. I believe they said he

45:10 was 23. Holy shit, but what's happening? Yeah. Despite her mother's concerns and the fact that some had argued there was a potential link to more than one repeated violent offender and even a serial killer, the police were insistent that Misty was a runaway. Of course they were. But as wild as all of that sounds, we won't get into any of it until part two. Okay, I'm good with the break. Yeah, you threw a lot at me here. Yeah. Can we go back to the burgers? Yeah, I know. Can we go back to the burgers? Can we have like some cotton candy at the fair? I'm hungry again. Yeah. We do. No, I'm not. Oh, man. Yeah, no, I'm not either. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I don't know what is in the water up there in Puyallup, but I mean, I'm sure it's not just there. No, a lot of scumbag men in the world who want to date little girls. Yeah. That's disgusting. And we haven't even gotten to the actual convicted violent sexual offenders or there's technically multiple serial killers that were active in this area at the time that only one of which makes a very compelling potential suspect, but oh, wow.

46:49 So you're telling me it's unsolved and no one knows exactly what happened to her after parting ways with Trina. Oh, I mean, that could mean it's they know who killed her, but they don't know what happened or I don't know. No one knows exactly what I'm trying to think of the best possible scenario. Yeah, no, it's this is definitely an unsolved. The really good news is that we are going to get to talk about a couple of other solved cases. Okay. You are not going to like any of them. Like either way, I'm not going to like any of it. So no, I mean, the more bad people put away, I guess it's best, but yeah, none of it's good. It's not great. That's for sure. You ready to do some tarot? I'm like, can we do something else? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she would very much like that. Let's do some Tiro. Okay.

47:46 Wow, that sounds it's very. I had a coffee and a match up today. Yeah, you're out of control. I'm going to flip to a page and see if it's the card we've all. Oh my gosh, no pressure or anything. No pressure. It's just like if it works, it works. It doesn't. Who cares? It's just going to be an interesting little test. Okay, testies here. You want a shuffle? Yeah, I do. Power power is in the deck. Okay. Right from the middle. Wow. I always do. What is it? Oh, God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's a dead bird.

48:35 I'm assuming the three of swords. Oh, the three of swords. That makes sense. It's a dead birdy We'll look up the bird, but it's got a bunch of rose petals around it. Let's see what page I turned. Oh, I was way off. I was on the Queen of Pentacles. Yeah, you never know. Basically the same. It's a beaver. It would be. I figured the beaver. I'm going to read the keywords. Keywords are okay. Well, pretty much what you would expect. Suffering, heartache, regret, grieving, sorrow and loss. I have trauma and betrayal on here too, as well. Great. I don't know if you said either of those. Nope. Okay. Glad we had those to add to the batch. Trauma all around the town.

49:28 Yeah, trauma. That's, yeah, it's an interesting one. Oh, boy. Do you want another bird? Yeah. Western Tanager. Tanager. Tanager. I don't know. I'm going to have to look that up. I have no idea. Yeah, like if I had honestly, that looks like someone, like those funny videos where they show people googling stuff spelled really terribly wrong. We did a lot of googling in this episode. We did. That's funny. It looks like somebody trying to Google teenager, but like horribly wrong, almost the way this is spelled. I don't know. Yeah, that's weird. Just looking at this heart with three swords piercing it is painful. And honestly, just to look at that one, it's painful.

50:18 Birdy. One of the saddest cards in the tarot. It symbolizes deep emotional pain, heartbreak, and a real or perceived tragedy. You may not manage to avoid the suffering indicated by the three of swords. However, the card advises separating true grief from self-pity. The upright three signifies separation, severing a connection to something or someone you love. You feel isolated and cut off from something you found meaningful. A way of life, your home and family, a philosophy, pursuit, or job. It's like literally what you're talking about with people that went to the camps. Something in your life has died. Oh, yep. Yeah.

51:14 Usually because it has lost its meaning or run its course and you need to let it go. There's an extra excerpt. Okay. The soul is a diamond in the rough, which must abide the blows inflicted by suffering in order to shine in all its brilliance. In a reading about money, the upright three represents losses due to relying on your rational mind or your emotions alone.

51:54 You need to use both to avoid problems. Sometimes it suggests someone you trusted has with drawn support or you're grieving the loss of better times. If the reading is about your work, this card can mean losing a job you loved or you feel isolated and unhappy in your job. Maybe you regret an unwise business decision or you're thwarted, unable to do the work you enjoy. Try to see this as a sign. It's time for a change. In a reading about love, the upright three can represent a split with a partner or at least a sense of separation and despair. If the relationship is worth salvaging, heal the gap with compassion and understanding. In some cases, this card says it's time to move on.

52:58 Wow. I mean, there was a lot there. Yeah, that's crazy. You've got the book out like you want to read a part of it. I mean, yeah, I can read this. I want to read the little interpretation. Yeah. Tanager. That's how we're going to go with it. Yep. We don't know. The Tanager, saying as he world through the sky, the sun shown on his back, causing his already bright plumage to iridesse, iridesse, iridesse, to iridesse into a million glowing hues of gold, red and violet. His heartbeat in a rapid tempo of elation as he dove toward the ground and spiraled back in an updraft. Spiral back on an updraft, not an updraft, but something. Yeah. As he flitted around the trees and buildings, his eye caught a gleam of gold.

53:58 A light as bright as pure as perfectly suited to him as his own reflection. With each momentary glimpse, the songbird adjusted his course toward the gleaming light until he was flying straight towards it. Don't fly towards the light. You know, the glimmers of gold opened up into silver's reds, violets, and pure white as he darted toward the light. It consumed his field of vision as he approached and he opened his wings to meet it, to be welcomed into its embrace. The moment of impact came too fast, even to be a shock.

54:42 And the light faded into darkness. Got, I literally cannot fucking duck. In the light faded to darkness before the teenager hit the ground. Wow. Okay. It kind of like when it was talking about all the colors and like the flying around, it like was like fair vibes. Yeah. Like they're having the time of their lives and then all of a sudden like, yeah, definitely like in that first part of the excerpt, it's like a very, you know, it's like this exalted portrait of like that taste of freedom and fun. The part that's a little bit strange to me is that there are some additional references to specific colors that we'll talk about in part two that even as I'm saying that there were things I hadn't remembered that now are coming up like okay. Wow. The whole like color thing is interesting too because we were literally talking about this Google sign and I was like, oh, look at all the different colors that are in it. And I'm like, should we take like get a bunch of different colored crystals that kind of like go with it? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's interesting. I have to tell I'm going

56:14 to do it offline, but I have to tell you there's there's something that's really actually kind of freaky about some of the color, some of the like symbolic or I would say more so some of the imagery and how it ties into kind of these minute details of part two. Oh boy. Yeah. Oh, that's it's actually kind of it's freaky me out. It's super interesting too how like the bird was blinded by the sun and it like couldn't see what was coming. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, I hope she didn't like see what was coming, you know. Yeah. Whatever that was. Yeah. I mean, none of it is likely to have been good. Unfortunately. Well, this is sad. I feel like we have had like a really sad one in a while. I mean, we've had like sad ones, but I don't know. Yeah. This one was pretty heavy.

57:22 Yeah. I guess the last one we did do was heavy. I'm just blocking them out. Yeah. Yeah. Last one kind of personal. Yeah. This one is just very fresh. So it's yeah. Yeah. No. Good Lord. Should we go have a sleepover? Yeah. Slumber party. Yeah. Yeah. And we get to go chat with Caitlin. Yeah. Yeah. I got to Caitlin. Oh, let's face it. Most people can barely handle the one. Technically, I have three. That's true. Oh my god. Swimming and Caitlin. I'm a Caitlin collector. If you are a Caitlin, slide into my DMs and I will collect you. Oh boy. Okay. On that note.

58:09 Are we going to say our thing? Yeah. Let's do a cap. Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday. For part two on Tuesday. Unless you're a Caitlin, because then she'll see you soon. Okay. I've got a couple of pronunciations that I'm going to have to look up. What? Yeah. Caitlin, you didn't do this beforehand. I did for some of them and then some of them I was like, I'm going to have to hear it right before I say it. You know, I'm like obviously kidding, because of what happened with Ireland. What happened with Ireland? I know I'm kidding because of what happened with Ireland. Doesn't that make us sound like kind of cool? Yeah it does. We pissed off Ireland and do all. You can piss off all of Ireland. Pnwhauntsandhomicides.com