May 7, 2026

Lindsey Baum: Unsolved | McCleary, WA

Lindsey Baum: Unsolved | McCleary, WA
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On the evening of June 26, 2009, ten-year-old Lindsey Baum left a friend's house in McCleary, Washington for the short walk home, but she never arrived.

McCleary is the kind of town where everyone knows each other - fewer than 2,000 residents, two dozen streets, one major employer. It was exactly the kind of place Melissa Baum thought was perfect for a fresh start with her two kids after relocating post-divorce from Tennessee. It felt safe. It felt quiet. And then it didn't.

What followed was a massive, multi-agency investigation - hundreds of law enforcement personnel, dozens of FBI agents, more than forty individuals drawing the attention of investigators, and years of tips that went nowhere. The case has never been solved.

In this episode we walk through everything the public record shows: the night Lindsey disappeared, the investigation, the persons of interest, and what investigators are still chasing today.

If you have information about Lindsey's case, contact the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office at 360-964-1799 or submit a tip to the FBI at tips.fbi.gov. A $40,000 reward is available for information leading to an arrest and conviction.

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Over sixteen years have passed since a ten year old

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girl walked four blocks through a quiet logging town and

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never came home. Sixteen loss years of tips that went nowhere.

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Long before hunters stumbled across the fractured skull of Lindsey

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Baum in the Mountains. The case was characterized by frustration

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as search warrants and polygraphs ultimately became dead ends.

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McCleary.

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Washington is a small mill town founded as a logging

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camp in Gray's Harbor County, with less than two thousand residents.

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Hey, we know about Gray's Harbor.

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Grays Harbor, with its tiny grid of two dozen streets

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talked amongst vast forests. It's a pretty typical rural community.

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But back in the days of Prohibition, McCleary had a

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reputation for making high quality moonshine whiskey. These days, however,

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with a population so small where one company, the Simpson

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Door Plan, employs over two hundred of its residents, it's

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truly the type of quiet small town where almost everyone

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knows each other. Like ten percent of the population works

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at this single company.

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Wow. Kind of crazy. Yeah.

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In two thousand and nine, Melissa Baum and her two children,

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Joshua and Lindsay, had recently relocated from Tennessee after Melissa's divorce,

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Hoping for a fresh start. Melissa thought McCleary felt like

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a nice, quiet, safe town. Lindsay was a mama's girl

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who hated being out past dark. I'm so precious, a

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girl who'd scribble stories on napkins and dream of filling

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her own bookshelves one day. She loved Harry Potter and

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Twilight in particular. Hell yeah, I know, just a girl

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after our own heart.

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Seriously.

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That summer, the family began to settle in, make new

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friends and plans for the fall and the rest of

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their future. On June twenty sixth, Lindsay spent the afternoon

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at a friends school, swimming and talking about what middle

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school would be like in the fall. She had just

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finished fifth grade and her eleventh birthday was eleven days away.

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Oh spooky, I know there's something about it being her

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eleventh birthday and that it was eleven days away. Ye,

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kind of gives you the chili willies. That evening, Lindsay

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asked if she could sleep over. The girls weren't ready

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for the day to end.

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So cute.

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It's like that like late June, Like it's right before

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the fourth of July. It's like right when like the

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summer weather gets good and you're just having so much fun.

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How yeah, and you've gone yeah, well yeah, June twenty

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six It would be pretty much in any district, I think,

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unless you go to year round schoolw ooh. Even though

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it was a summer Friday night, the answer was no oh.

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Because she and her brother Joshua had argued earlier, he'd

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turned back home, so she set out on the ten

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minute walk home alone, without money, a change of clothes,

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or even her cell phone, which had been accidentally left

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on its charger at home, which is kind of crazy

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because I think it's pretty normal these days for kids

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to have phones. I think, but I'm like, wow, she's

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not even eleven yet and she has a phone.

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Yeah, Like that's wild.

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To me, just because I'm like, I don't think I

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got a phone until I was like almost fourteen. And

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even then it was like like the equivalent of like

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giving a kid a flip phone. Now, yeah, it's one

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of those Nokia like touchpad bed Bully's.

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Mine was definitely a flip phone. I was like, yeah,

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I feel like I was sixteen. I don't know, I

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could have been fifteen.

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Yeah, so cool.

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She was last seen around nine to fifteen pm by

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a neighbor walking along Maple Street between fifth and sixth Street.

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When Lindsay didn't come home, Melissa called her friend's house.

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The mother said she hadn't seen Lindsay in over an hour.

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Oh.

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Melissa called nine one one, stating her daughter was not

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the kind of kid who wandered off. She would have

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hurried home as the sun was going down to avoid

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being alone in the dark in a place where she

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was only just getting her bearings. I can't even imagine

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for a kid that already is afraid of the dark.

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And you know it's still like a new.

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Town to you.

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Yeah, they hadn't been living there very long.

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I have to walk home without your phone. Yeah.

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In the days before she vanished, Lindsay told her mother

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she believed a man in a white car had been

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following her.

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Well, shit, that's not good. No, And the night.

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Before she disappeared, she told her mom she had a

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feeling something bad was going to happen to her. These

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details suggest she may have been watched or targeted in

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the days prior to her disappearance. Lindsay's disappearance was taken

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seriously from the start. From the beginning, her mother, Melissa,

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was certain that her daughter had not wandered off or

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run away. By Saturday afternoon, officials agreed. Sheriff Rick Scott

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stated this young girl didn't simply run off on her own.

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There was no evidence to support that. On Sunday, the

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FBI's Seattle Field office arrived and began working the case.

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Soon dozens of agents were assisting, along with hundreds of

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police officers and searchers. Which was like, pretty freaking quick

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your kid to go missing Friday night and the FBI

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is on the scene by Sunday. I mean, that's got

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to make you at least feel good that they're doing

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everything that they can. In the months that followed, Lindsay's

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case went national. Her photo appeared on the cover of

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People magazine in twenty ten.

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Wow. I didn't know they did stuff like that.

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I you know, People magazine, honestly, will it can be

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anything that ends up making the.

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Cover anyone who's a person, I mean, yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

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In the aftermath of Lindsay's disappearance, scrutiny fell on the

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family too, of course. Yeah, I mean it's a sad reality.

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The weight of it eventually forced Melissa and Joshua to

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leave McCleary entirely, moving to a nearby town to escape

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what it become unbearable. Years later, Melissa would reflect on

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what that cost them. I just kind of died inside.

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It was as if I was in a coma, just numb.

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It destroyed us, especially Joshua. And he didn't just lose

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his sister, he lost the mom he knew.

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That is just so sad hard.

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I mean, it's got to be so so hard. I mean,

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the heartbreak of having a missing child and then trying

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to figure out how you function as a mom to

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your remaining child. I don't know how you do that,

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I really don't.

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I'm sure they both have like the survivor's guilt going on,

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because he'd gotten an argument with her and left early

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or whatever had happened.

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And so they were actually both supposed to be going

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to this friend's house and hanging out at the pool

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that day, but they got in a fight as they

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were leaving the house, and so Josh turned back. Oh

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so he never even went to the friend's house. He

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basically just turned back and was like, fuck it, I'm

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going to stay home.

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You know, maybe in.

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Slightly less colorful language, but forget it.

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I'm going home. Forget you, forget you.

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In May twenty ten, the Sheriff's Office released surveillance footage

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from a Shell gas station showing a white truck and

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a man who entered the store on the night of

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Lindsay's disappearance. The man had previously told investigators he was

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not in McCleary that evening. The footage contradicted that account.

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Investigators identified and interviewed him, as well as two sisters

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from the McCleary area who were briefly seen speaking with

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him in the video, but no arrests or charges have

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ever resulted from those interviews. None of those people are

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super clearly identified in the source material that I was

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looking at. That's always interesting because and I'm about to

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get into it, but there are quite a lot of

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very specifically named people related to the case that I

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will talk about. And it's like, so, why are we

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naming some people and not others? It's kind of interesting

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to me. Huh, yeah, I don't know. I think in

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a lot of cases it's just people are able to

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determine the names. It's not necessarily that, like the police

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have released specific names. But that's always interesting to me.

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In a small town like this, I could see where

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it's like people are like, uh, yeah, no, we know

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who that was because we all saw him there. Yeah,

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so we know exactly who you're talking about. Like anyway,

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over the years, more than forty individuals drew the attention

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of investigators, more than twenty search warrants were executed, and

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nearly forty polygraph tests were administered.

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I feel like that's a lot. Seems like a lot, right,

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I don't know the standard, but ye, for a small town.

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I guess it's seems like a lot.

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Seems like a lot. Yeah, like half the town is

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being used a murder.

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Basically, and still no arrest. Of those forty individuals. A

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few surfaced repeatedly, individuals whose connection to that night or

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to McCleary itself kept investigators coming back. None have been charged,

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and each maintains their innocence, and what follows is simply

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what the public record shows. Private investigator Rose Winquist has

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worked with Lindsay's case for nearly a decade. Her conclusion

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is pointed, I think this person was and still is

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a local. The person either knew Lindsay or was familiar

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with her in some way. This person was sort of

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profiling her. She believes the perpetrator was likely a male

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in his twenties at the time, someone who had been

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watching Lindsay, who knew her habits, and who coaxed her

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into a vehicle.

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It's interesting to me that you would do that in

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like your small town that you live in.

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Right, You're like, there's only so many people that they

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can point to. You're not worried that just statistically your

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name might come up. Everybody knows everybody.

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And I feel like everybody's watching always. Huh. Yeah, not

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that you shouldn't like hurt people anywhere.

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But well, right, but it just seems like particularly unwise. First,

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there was an unnamed forty seven year old man who

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had provided quote inconsistent statements to investigators, just pretty much

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the number one way of getting on their radar. His

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home was searched in October two thousand and nine, just

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months after Lindsay disappeared, but didn't result in an arrest

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or us knowing exactly who he was.

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Damn it. Yeah, yeah, we loss he's innocent.

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Yeah, I mean, and maybe they figured that whatever connection

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they initially thought existed was so tenuous that like it

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wasn't wise to publicly out this person, because you know

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how that can go. I mean, especially in a small town.

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It's like that person can just become completely ostracized, and

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it's like the police like talked to them once and

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decided they weren't even a good potential suspect. And now

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it's like you're ruining their life for nothing. Yeah, So

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I don't know, it's so hard, I know. Next there

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was Tim Hartman, a local jeweler and volunteer firefighter. In

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twenty eleven investigators searched his home, but it was until

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February twenty twelve that the results of the search were

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publicly released, and though Hartman was listed as a person

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of interest, he was also never arrested or charged. Hartman's shop,

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Hartman's Jewelry and Repair, on Fourth Street, is on the

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route that Lindsay would have taken to get back home

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the night she disappeared. He initially told police he was

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not in McCleary at the time, but surveillance video placed

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him at a convenience store at nine to nineteen pm,

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four minutes after Lindsay was last seen.

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Hmm, why would you say you're not there if you're there.

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It's possible that like the timeline for him just was

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a little bit like I yeah, because actually so he'd

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claimed he'd been at a class in Belfair that ended

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at nine pm, but the FBI determined that the class

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actually ended at eight fifteen. So you're talking about like

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a difference of like forty five minutes. Maybe this maybe

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the class was scheduled to go until nine and it

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ended early, and like, I don't know, it does kind

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of obviously it raises suspicion because that's I mean, it

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puts him literally right there, smacked up.

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You know. Yeah, it's just weird. It is. It's weird.

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It may mean nothing, you know, could be correlation, not causation.

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But the October twenty eleven search of Hartman's home, car,

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and shop produced a notable list of seized items, amongst

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them ropes and straps, numerous computers and storage devices, a

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pink sheet with unknown stains, a brown Duffel bag containing

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what was described as assumed human hair, who handwritten notes

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referencing the missing child wait what uh huh? And from

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the passenger side of his car what the search warrant

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described only as an apparent fingernail. Whether that item was

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ever forensically identified and what those results showed has never

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been made public, though again Tim Hartman.

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Not ever charged so far. Okay, writing notes about her,

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that's I don't know. I don't know, and I'm not even.

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Sure that really like the details or like the context

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of those notes has been publicly released.

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I don't care what it says, any note about a

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child who's gone missing. That's why are you noted? Yeah?

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It does.

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It does feel a little like I have questions. I

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have some follow up questions and actually that's okay. You'll

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you'll probably be like, let's put a pin in that

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cuz well, yike's this next section. In twenty seventeen, three

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elderly brothers, Charles Thomas and Edwin Emery were arrested at

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their Seattle home on child's sex abuse charges after a

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female family member discovered evidence of decades long abuse and

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reported it. When investigators searched the home, they found it

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littered with disturbing material, and among it a copy of

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Lindsay's missing flyer EW alongside dozens of photos and articles

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about other missing children. The brothers also owned a property

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in Shelton, just seventeen miles from McCleary. Investigators searched it

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with cadaver dogs and assistants from the Department of Homeland Security.

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No evidence linking the Emery brothers to Lindsay's disappearance was

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found at either location that we know of, and they

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have never been charged in connection with her case.

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Dude, What's what's all these fucking weirdos around town? I

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still don't like the note taker.

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Nope, I don't like the note one, but I really

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disliked the second one because not only did they have

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Lindsay's like Missing Persons Flyer, they had articles and photos of.

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Other missing children.

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That's ikey, it's real ikey, especially considering what they were

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arrested for. Either those are kind of like a trophy

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item because they had something.

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To do with those cases, or they are.

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Using them for other shall we say personal use you?

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I mean, I'd rather it be that, even though that's gross.

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It's real gross, and I hate that.

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I do, maybe hate it slightly less.

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Than it's like the nastiest. Would you rather get it?

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I'm so bad. Twenty twenty one, Paul Beeker was arrested

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in connection with a two thousand and three kidnapping and

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rape of a seventeen year old girl in the same town.

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The victim had been abducted from her own driveway bound

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and driven to a remote location where she was sexually assaulted.

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The case had gone cold for nearly two decades before

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forensic genetic genealogy identified.

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Baker as the suspect haha.

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Confirmed by DNA from a coffee cup he discarded at

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Point Defiance Park in Tacoma. Hahas we have very recently

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talked about a match so precise it was statistically one

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in thirty five quadrillion.

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That's a lot. It's a lot. So I feel like

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they were pretty certain. Yeah, I would hope, so, yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah.

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He was arrested in twenty twenty one, convicted in June

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the following year, and sentenced to thirty years in prison

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shortly thereafter. Given that Beaker had lived in McCleary, in

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June two thousand and nine, investigators examined whether he had

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any connection to Lindsay's case. The answer, at least publicly

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was no.

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Quote.

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At this point, investigators have not discovered any evidence linking

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Baker to the Lindsay bomb investigation. Beeker passed a polygraph

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in reference to questions involving Lindsay Bomb. The Gray's Harbor

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Sheriff's Office confirmed for whatever that's worth, and polygraphs, as

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we know, are worth of very debatable. Yeah, yeah, I

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don't know. I guess it just depends on if you

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believe in science or Based on that statement, Beeker has

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likely moved well down the list of investigative priorities, though

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the case remains open and no one has been formally cleared,

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which I feel like is very pointed.

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I don't like that. Yeah, I mean it's been found.

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No one's been cleared.

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Yeah, They're like, we're not really eliminating any possibilities at

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this point, we're just not charging anyone. In the fall

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of twenty seventeen, hunters in a remote, rugged area near

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Ellensburg stumbled upon part of a human school.

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Oh, they didn't find Mel's hole. I would rather them

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find Mel's hole than a school.

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I know.

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Investigators were led to the location and collected it, but

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without an obvious crime connected to its discovery. It's sat

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in a queue waiting for DNA analysis from months.

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Oh shit, I guess I didn't really think about that. Yeah, Like,

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how long it would take to actually identify it remains damn.

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Unless they have, you know, a shortlist. For nine years,

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Lindsay's case had remained officially classified as a missing person investigation.

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On May tenth, twenty eighteen, that changed. The DNA results

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came back. The skull fractured belonged to Lindsay Baum. Her

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death was officially classified as a homicide. After nine years,

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investigators finally knew what Melissa had known from the very

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first night. That Lindsay had not wandered off. She had

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been taken and she had been murdered. Sheriff Scott broke

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the news first to Melissa, then he stood before the

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community at a press conference in mc cleary. I am

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here today to share with you that we brought Lindsey home,

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he said, Sadly, she was not recovered as we and

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her family had hoped and prayed these past nine years.

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And the room gasped.

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There's something about a room like sitting in for this,

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you know, at a press conference nearly a decade after

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this child has gone missing. The fact that they gasped, yeah,

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because I think typically most of us assume after that

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long that person is gone. Yeah, they say that, Yeah,

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And even if they were like in a way still

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expecting that. I feel like it just says a lot

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that the people that were present were like still, whether

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they were shocked or so upset, whatever it was that

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was driving that reaction.

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Like the gasp to me is.

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Just I don't know, It's kind of chilling in its

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own way, if that makes sense.

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Yeah. The location where she.

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Was found sits in the Manustache area, about twenty miles

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west of Ellensburg, steep forested terrain with large cliffs and

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deep Ravines, roughly one hundred and sixty eight miles and

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a three hour drive from McCleary. Investigators noted that a

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local perpetrator would be less likely to travel that far,

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suggesting someone with knowledge of or connections too Eastern Washington.

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As Sheriff Scott put it, the biggest clue now is

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the Eastern Washington connection. Trying to find some connection in

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the information we've gathered over the last ten years that

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is not where you accidentally end up. Someone knew that

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that area that's far enough away. That part is really chilling.

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In twenty twenty three, a multi agency search involving the FBI,

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the AG's HITS investigators, and over one hundred and sixty

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volunteers swept a ten agger area in Mason County based

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on an early tip. Up to twenty five items were

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recovered as possible evidence, but again, no suspect has ever

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been charged, but the case remains open with the Gray's

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Harbor County Sheriff's office and with the FBI. So I

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mean they have literally been still keeping this alive and

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like things are happening if they are gathering tips or

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any new information. Over sixteen years have passed since a

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ten year old girl walked four blocks through quiet logging

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town and never came home. Sixteen plus years of tips

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that went nowhere, long before hunters stumbled across the fractured

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skull of Lindsay Bomb in the mountains, the case was

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characterized by frustration, as search warrants and polygraphs ultimately became

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dead ends. Now her mother eats, sleeps, drives to work,

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and lives her everyday life with her daughter's ashes around

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her neck, because that's where Lindsay is now, independent on

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her mother's chest. I want to know where the rest

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of my daughter is Priority number one. All I got

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back of her was a piece of her skull, and

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this is it right here. Jeez, this is my daughter.

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Melissa Baum has said more than once that she believes

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whoever did this did not stop with Lindsey. And that's

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not speculation for the sake of drama. It is the

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considered opinion of a mother who has spent over sixteen

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years paying attention, and of the private investigator who worked

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alongside her for nearly a decade. Somewhere someone knows something.

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Maybe they were in McCleary that night, Maybe they knew

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who the man was. And I say a man, because

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let's be honest, it is almost certainly a man, but

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I'm open to the possibility of it being.

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Some other individual.

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Maybe they have always known and the weight of it

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has just become something they carry the way Melissa carries Lindsay.

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If that is you, or if you know someone it

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might be called, the tip line will include that and

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other resources in the show notes. And if you need

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more motivation than the fact that this is heart wrenching

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to her family and the community where she lived and

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probably countless other people, there is also a forty thousand

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dollars reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction.

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Lindsay Joe Baum was born July seventh, nineteen ninety eight.

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She would have turned twenty seven this year.

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Wow. She wanted to be a writer and a veterinarian.

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She loved animals and Harry Potter, and she hated the

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dark same and she was trying to get home before

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the sun went down when someone took all of that

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from her.

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Her middle name is Joe. That's my middle name.

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I know.

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I was like god like, her birthday is so close

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to yours, and.

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She's like.

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Obviously like the same age as I would be turning

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this year, ten years younger than me. Yeah, so it is, Caitlin.

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Yeah, I was just thinking about how I do like

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the dark, but I don't like to be out in

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the dark walking by myself because I'm a woman, you know.

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So there is that like a little bit of even

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though I love the dark, I don't want to be

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out on the streets alone in the dark.

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And the fact that like even in a town that's

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like that small and you know, supposedly that's safe, that

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a ten year.

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Old girl.

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Her experience in the world is that she is afraid

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to walk alone. Like she's too young to to have

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like the real understanding and like experience.

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She shouldn't have fear that's based in reality.

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To back up, like she should just be afraid of

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the dark because of like the imaginary boogeyman, not because

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there's a real boogeyman.

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It's crazy that she like had the intuition that something

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was going to happen to her too.

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It's like if you've been seeing a car following you,

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like speaking of the boogeyman. Melissa said many times that

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she just wants people to remember who her daughter was,

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a real person, someone who existed, and someone who deserves

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to rest in peace. I feel like, I guess the

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mother of a missing and murdered child, the fact that

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that is like a sentiment that you even have to voice.

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Yeah, it's horrifying.

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On the one hand, right, And then on the other

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it's like in some of these cases where they're just

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missing and they're gone forever without like any sort of trace,

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it does give this like sort of Boogeyman effect that

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makes it feel not really real to the rest of

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us sometimes, And I feel like it's important to remember

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that she was a real person. Whoever did this to

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her was a real person. They were real fucking monster,

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but they were a real person.

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It's so hard to think.

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About because this is this is one kid, and we

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know that there are hundreds, like in the state of

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Washington alone, if not thousands, there are tens of thousands,

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hundreds of thousands of people that go missing in this

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country every year, yeah, or over time, maybe not hundreds

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of thousands every year, but the accumulation, I mean, did.

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It It is sad like the people don't theoretically aren't

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caught or in jail.

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I mean it would be we don't know who it is.

474
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:48.200
Yeah, maybe they got him for something else, Yeah, tax evasion,

475
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.839
because you know, those are the crimes they really care about.

476
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.799
So sad I keep thinking about her lock it or

477
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.880
used to lock it, or it's like a pendant like

478
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.960
people some people choose to keep like a portion of

479
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.079
their loved ones ashes, yeah, in something like that. But

480
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.599
the fact that like that's all you have, it's not

481
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.640
just like a portion of what you have that's it.

482
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.400
Yeah, well that's depressing.

483
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.400
Yeah, I know, I mean thinking about that. I mean

484
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.680
we've obviously just you know, been through this, and like

485
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.799
I have an earn like the idea that you would

486
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.640
you would have to like pick and choose what to

487
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:43.319
do with this last piece of this person that you love,

488
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.799
this tiny human that you made.

489
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.160
Oh my god. And I think about this all.

490
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.599
The time, and I'm like, I don't I don't really

491
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.680
want to have children of my own. And I think

492
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.079
sometimes when I when I talk about these cases, it

493
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.839
kind of informed. There's that decision in a way, like

494
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.519
definitely not own the things that I would do, Oh

495
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.920
my god, Yeah, the crimes that I would perpetrate against

496
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.880
the rest of humanity for doing this to my child, right,

497
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.199
but she also is an imaginary child, right, this is

498
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.239
not a person that exists. And I just, I mean

499
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.480
the families and the parents specifically that this happens too.

500
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:29.039
I just.

501
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.719
And it's it's so hard to say that any circumstance

502
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:39.239
is worse than another. But like you have no answers,

503
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.840
and not that you know, sometimes the answers are horrific, right,

504
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.840
but not knowing, I don't know. I don't know how

505
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:53.239
people continue to like wake up in the morning and get.

506
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.719
Out of bed. I really don't neither. I was thinking

507
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.760
about that, like they just have to.

508
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.119
Yeah, especially not that not to say that if you

509
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.920
don't have other family or children that you you know,

510
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.760
don't have to as well. But even just like even

511
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.719
more you have another child, you still have to.

512
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:11.159
Take care of.

513
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.760
And for some people, I think that has to be

514
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.519
like sort of the thing that's like your you're guiding light.

515
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.840
It's like the thing that keeps you going. And like

516
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:26.119
that makes sense. We have to do some taro before

517
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:30.360
I lose my mind, Okay, and then and then I'm

518
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:31.960
gonna go make us tacos.

519
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.280
That sounds good. I need I need some taco love

520
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.800
that now I'm sad.

521
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.679
I'd love to be able to say that this case

522
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.519
has ruined my appetite, but since I you know, I've

523
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.840
eaten breakfast and then a lot of chips and salsa,

524
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.679
I'm not gonna lie. I I am actually still hungry.

525
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.159
Why yeah, and whine?

526
00:35:59.159 --> 00:35:59.880
What's going on?

527
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:00.920
Ay?

528
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.960
We're almost done.

529
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:07.920
This is not gonna be very happy about that.

530
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.000
Do you want to draw the card or do you

531
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.920
want to hold the puppy? Try to hold the puppy?

532
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.000
Just got a forceful lift up my neck.

533
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.800
Oh yeah, help me pick a card and then I'll

534
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:19.480
get her.

535
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:26.960
Yeah. Do you run your fingers now? Oh?

536
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.679
Oh, it's a very pretty card. It's from our PNW dack.

537
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.440
It is a very colorful butterfly. And I'm really curious

538
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.119
to see what kind of plant this is. We drew

539
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.760
it in the reverse. It's a judgment card.

540
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:48.159
Oh that's interesting, Like was no official judgment yet?

541
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.400
Yeah, it feels appropriate that it's in the reverse, but

542
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.760
I don't know, we'll see.

543
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.840
It's interesting that it's like a black butterfly. I don't

544
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:56.519
know why it is.

545
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.159
It looks like a monarch kind of Yeah, I mean

546
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.280
it's not, but it looks similar kind of you know,

547
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.519
like the colors a lot of black on it, but

548
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.400
maybe because it's like a Fromunda.

549
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:13.320
It looks like a Fromunda, it kind of does. Yeah, yeah,

550
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.280
that is its belly. Oh, I'm gonna do that. That

551
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.440
makes sense. I'll look it up in the Little Book.

552
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.440
Judgment is Codduma twenty in the major Oconna.

553
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:30.599
No as Charlotte tries to eat the microphone.

554
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.800
Oh, we have gotten this before. It's a tailor's checker

555
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.000
spot butterfly.

556
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.519
I don't remember seeing that card, so we must have

557
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.239
drawn the card from maybe a different deck.

558
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:43.719
Maybe I don't know.

559
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.519
I'm interested in the interesting, I.

560
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.800
Am similarities are so similar.

561
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.320
I am interested to see the keywords because I might

562
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.440
add to them if they don't, if they're not exactly

563
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:00.119
what is here?

564
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:00.840
Okay?

565
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:10.000
Our keywords are awakening, self realization, choices, assessment, and rebirth.

566
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:19.320
Okay, it's interesting because this one has added reflection, purpose, evaluation, accountability,

567
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.400
and consequence.

568
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.039
Interesting the ones that I thought was very interesting, very interesting.

569
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.639
The judgment card often looks negative, and really, who among

570
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.960
us likes to be judged? In the writer Wait Smith deck,

571
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.000
a winged figure whom some interpret as the angel Gabriel

572
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.320
emerges from a cloud and blows a trumpet beneath him.

573
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.440
Several nude people look up, apparently from their coffins, having

574
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:56.559
heard the trumpets blast. They outstretch their arms. Their expressions

575
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:02.960
reveal awe tinged with fear. This contains overtones of Christianity's

576
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.480
Day of Judgment, when God judges all souls and hands

577
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.760
out rewards or punishments. In a broader sense, however, judgment

578
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:17.559
represents a time of awakening and self realization, when you

579
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.000
must make adjustments to reflect who you truly are.

580
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.320
And there was a lot of judgment.

581
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.360
I'm sure about the family, about the Yeah, the named

582
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.159
and unnamed suspects.

583
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:31.440
Yeah. Absolutely.

584
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.480
Reverse judgment suggests you can't make a decision or won't

585
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:41.079
make the changes necessary so you can move ahead. Perhaps

586
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:44.320
you're confused about how to proceed, or you don't want

587
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.199
to face up to the harm you've done, stuff you

588
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.599
don't like about yourself, demons you fear. You don't want

589
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.880
to look in the mirror and see who you really are,

590
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.599
and this can mean ignoring the good things about yourself

591
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.719
as as well as the unsavory ones. In some cases,

592
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:08.280
judgment reversed means you're too hard on yourself and others

593
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.880
and need to become more tolerant or you know, maybe

594
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.400
don't murder people. Yeah, I mean that's definitely a good start.

595
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.679
In a reading about money, you may be stuck, afraid,

596
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:25.079
or unwilling to make a decision about your finances, especially

597
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.880
if you feel a change will affect your security. This

598
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.599
can also mean you're displeased about a legal decision or

599
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.119
other money issue.

600
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.719
It's pleased about a legal Yeah, what was it? Legal decision? Yes?

601
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.800
Thank you? Yeah, I kept trying to say position, or yeah.

602
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.320
Yeah, it's not right, I mean close close. If the

603
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.360
reading is about your job, judgment reverse suggests your current

604
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:56.639
work situation no longer meets your needs, but you're reluctant

605
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.400
to make a change because you're not clear what the

606
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.199
future holds. This card can also mean a bad decision

607
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.760
your own or someone else's has adversely affected you.

608
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.880
Yeah, someone made a very very very very very terrible decision.

609
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.679
Sure did It was not Lindsay or Melissa Yeah, or

610
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.119
the brother or even Joshua. Yeah.

611
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.840
Or you may be judging yourself and others too harshly.

612
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.079
In a reading about love, you may feel a partner

613
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.320
is too critical of you, or you may be too

614
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.920
critical of him or her. This card can also point

615
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.760
to a choice you made and regret, or a decision

616
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.440
you need to make but are resisting. And there is

617
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:46.440
an extra excerpt. Okay, my advice to you is that

618
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.679
it is never too late to fess up to what

619
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.440
you are ashamed of having done. Holy shit, hold your

620
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:56.079
own judgment day and clear the slate.

621
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:58.679
Dude.

622
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.840
Yeah wow wow, like nuff said.

623
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:10.000
That's from Jane Stone, Confessions of a Tarot Reader.

624
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.599
It's never too late to own a Yeah, there.

625
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.039
Is literally no statute of limitations.

626
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.360
All right, I'm gonna read from the little book and

627
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.400
see what it's got while this little munchkin goes crazy.

628
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.800
They call it metamorphosis, but they should call it birth.

629
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:32.719
The butterfly emerging from the chrystalis, Yes, I said it right.

630
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.199
The butterfly emerging from the crystalis is not the caterpillar

631
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.599
that wrapped itself in silk. The caterpillar is dead, broken down,

632
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:52.480
digested ooh. Gradually, its liquefied remains form new structures, eyes, legs, antennae,

633
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:58.239
and paper thin wings. Around and compact body is reconstituted

634
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.480
and replaced by a body that stretches outward in delicate formations.

635
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.760
The butterfly carries, not the caterpillars memories or idiosyncrasies. Those

636
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.519
neural pathways were destroyed. This is a new animal escaping

637
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:17.800
the chrysalis, unaware of how it got there, leaving the

638
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.840
only world it has ever known, taking flight as it

639
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.119
begins its life. That is kind of sad because it's

640
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.599
like she didn't really get to fully begin her life.

641
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.880
You know, no, I should say not. She was not

642
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.800
even eleven years old, eleven days until her eleventh birthday,

643
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.039
just about to enter middle school.

644
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:40.920
It's kind of eerie because it's like you're this little

645
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.480
caterpillar on Earth and you pass away and then like

646
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.480
the the wings of the butterfly make me think of

647
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.320
an angel, and that's like what her Oh that's her life, yes,

648
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.360
sheet this crazy dog, some entertainment and yeah.

649
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.039
She's been trying so hard to chew the foam on

650
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:03.199
my microphone.

651
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.800
She's like, I don't like murder. Can we not talk

652
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:10.079
about that. I'm just a baby, You're just a baby.

653
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:12.800
Okay, we have to take a back stip a. Bye,

654
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.199
have a creepy ast day.

655
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.039
We'll see you next Thursday.

656
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:19.480
Good Bye, Charlotte.

657
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.280
Charlotte says if you were a murderer, you need to

658
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.679
pass up right right me ow.

659
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.559
Not cool, bro, not cool, not cool dude,