Haunted Port Townsend: Spirits of Point Wilson Lighthouse | Espooky Tales

0:00 We might be coming to you from on location. Yeah. I like how she says "might" as if she can't quite tell. We perhaps might be inside of a lighthouse. Woo! So I'm going to tell you guys some stories about the ghost that haunt this very building that we're sitting in right now. Where we slept the past two nights? Yeah, two nights two nights. I know what we're not. We're not. We're not from night one. It's interesting. Great. I love it when you say "interesting" with that evil glint in your eyes. I'm excited. [music] Hi, Caitlyn.

0:41 Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Hello. We're actually, we're not alone today. We have a visitor and she's super cool. Her name is Cristina and she's from Espooky Tales. Hi. We're so excited to be here. We also have the ghost companions with us. We're like not alone alone. We have not been alone this whole weekend. We might be coming to you from on location. Yeah. I like how she says "might" as if she can't quite tell. We perhaps might be inside of a lighthouse. Yeah, I mean technically. Yeah, this was the lighthouse. So we're actually coming to you from Port Townsend, Washington.

1:25 Correct. We are in Fort Worden State Park, which has many beach trails, a forest. It has eagles, it has deer's and bunnies. It's so freaking gorgeous here. You could see the ocean. What ocean is that? I don't know. Pacific. You're asking the wrong Pacific. Oh my god, duh. We're on the West Coast. So it's always the Pacific. I thought maybe I had like a special name. Like it was like, because we're like in a port. I mean technically we're in the Puget Sound area. That's what I was looking for. Yeah, yeah. So we can see Canadiah. What ocean do we have on our side of the country?

2:05 Yes, we can literally see Canada from here. You guys are literally PNW Haunts and Homicides. I don't know what part of the world we're in right now. I don't know what ocean this is. We're disoriented. You're like, this isn't my usual subject matter, so it's confusing. I don't know anything about the United States, okay? On this fort, there are many historic buildings and museums and one very special lighthouse. Beautiful. Technically too. Yeah, we're actually staying in the Keepers duplex for the Point Wilson lighthouse. Should we talk about Mel? Yeah. Yeah. Good friend of the pod Amy actually introduced us via social media to Mel.

2:49 Who is the keeper of the light? What a title. I know. Yeah, good stuff. So we connected with her so we could come up here and converge on the lighthouse property. We got a very exclusive tour of the lighthouse. Yeah, we did. Yeah. And the haunted buildings. And this, what does it called For Worden? Yeah. We just want to do warden. We just want to do warden. It's hard to say, fort warden. It's warden. It's warden. It's warden. Yeah. It's hard to say, the tea followed by the de... Yeah, it's a thing. It's tough for you.

3:30 We went all the way up to the tippy top of the lighthouse and they had recently... I don't remember how recently she said they turned on their lens so that it's actually spinning now because I guess lighthouses don't do that anymore. Which is like, what? They have automated like a separate light outside of the lighthouse that's automated. That lights up. So this one, they're like... They said they're going to light it soon, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think as she said, it was like very, very recent that it just started spinning. Yeah. Like if we had calm on the original days, it wouldn't have been spinning. Right. It's true. Yeah. Lots of things that could have played out differently if Cristina hadn't gotten COVID. So thank you for taking one for the team.

4:11 Yeah. So we got to be sketchful. It feels like it was all worth it now. I think everything happened for a reason. You know? That's what my dad says all the time. And I'm like, no. But I don't like it. It's like a shitty one. It's like a really bad thing that happens. And people say that. But it's just like, kind of a good one. Yeah. That's not that bad. So. It's like, you were saying last night, is the thing grandparents say? Oh, yeah. I forget how it's phrased. But I mean, basically, you leave it up to God or it's in God's will. But like, all this finish, yeah. If God's willing and you're like, no, no, grandma. I said I was going to call you tomorrow and they're like, if God's willing, it's up to his lord and savior's grace. And I'm like, well, I just know what's up.

4:51 So what you're saying is I'm already a grandma. Okay. God. God. God. Yeah. I guess that sums it up. Passed a goal. So we're actually going to hear from Mel from the past. We did a little recording from inside the light house. In. Sorry. Where she told us about some of the history. So I think I'm just going to insert that right here. So we're here with Mel, keeper of the light. And she's going to tell us a little bit about the history of this beautiful light house that we just walked all the way up to the tippy top of. Thank you for being here and welcome to Point Wilson Light Station.

5:32 I am Mel the keeper. And what we're standing in is the 1913 Point Wilson Lighthouse. The original lighthouse was built in 1879, which is the unit that you're staying in. The keeper's duplex. And it was for various reasons, one of them being the need for a vogue horn signal. Built the current one that we're standing in, which is beautiful and very neat. We have our historic Fresnel lens. It's a fourth order lens. And it rotates and flashes red every 20 seconds. And so it's at the top. And soon we'll be able to rely our lamp, which is a neat thing. So you got to see it rotate. In 1913, the present tower that we're in and the fog signal building we're built.

6:14 The light atop the keeper's house was moved to the new tower and new fog signals were installed. And in 1930, this baby got electricity. What did they do before the electricity? So before it was kerosene and WIC. There was a clockwork system in this lighthouse where they would kind of like a grandfather clock would pull. And it would rotate the lens. And at one point pre-electricity also, there was kerosene and lighthouses did use whale oil. I know. Thankfully we're in different times. But yeah, it was just a historical fact. And whales have rights now.

6:55 They do have rights. Well, do have rights. Making up for the way. I did want to say that David M. Littlefield, who was the very first keeper in state in the keeper's duplex, it's always good to point out the keepers on the property, especially the first one. So shout out to the little fields. And you may or may not know this because it's sort of a historical thing. But it says that the light at point Wilson was extinguished during World War II for defense purposes. Was that something that they did nationwide? It was. The mission of the United States Lighthouse Society is to preserve and share the history and legacy of America's lighthouses and their keepers.

7:39 So we're in the business of saving lighthouses. And hopefully this is a good platform or a launching pad for your listeners, as well as yourselves, to maybe go visit some lighthouses and show us some support. So next time you're there, maybe. So there are several lighthouses that you can actually stay in. One of them obviously is ours. It's overnight vacation rentals. But we also have the Dungeon S spit lighthouse, which is located at the tip of the Dungeon S spit, which is the largest sand spit in North America. And you can sign up to be a keeper for a week for a fee. You stay out there. They'll take you in a truck, which is pretty cool. It's beautiful.

8:23 And kind of drop you off and you're responsible for some of the upkeep and giving tours and things. So if you're in Washington State area and you ever want to come stay at a lighthouse or be a keeper, we have some options. So yeah. Next pod tray. We're going to be lighthouse keepers. Thanks for coming, coming to show us some support. All the proceeds that we make do find our restoration efforts. And so everything that, which is really beautiful about our property. So the overnight accommodations, it takes a lot to maintain a lighthouse. And so yeah, thank you so much for coming out and showing support.

9:03 Thank you. Thanks for showing us around. I do have to clear up. Okay. We have to talk about the ghosts. So clear it up for everyone because I'm going to tell them some scary stories. But I'm going to need you to just set their minds at ease. Okay. This particular lighthouse, I don't believe is haunted. There are many lighthouses across the country that do have a lot of activity, but not our lighthouse. So it's very peaceful and I haven't experienced anything supernatural. Even staying in the keeper's house. Even staying in the keeper's house. Nothing. What about, oh, you said your cat likes to look at things though. Cat does like to look at things for long periods of time. It's quite interesting and odd because you know how cats sometimes just stare at weird directions.

9:48 It's not like something. It's like at something. So never know. Hopefully it's like the good protector spirits. Like yeah, yeah, there's nothing restless here. That's for sure. The the fort that we're in there is stories though. Correct. There are stories and I've had some, I guess you would call it first hand experiences with some odd things. And also some very close friends of mine that I used to work with have had very, I would say scary encounters. Creepy. How about we say creepy?

10:28 We say creepy. We're creepy. Yeah, so very interesting stuff. I don't disbelieve, but I always like to you know, skeptic healthy skepticism. My question is have you ever stayed on the other side of the duplex? No, I have not. Oh, my side is there's no activity. Yeah, if my side is good. So is it the is it the West Wing that we're staying on? Okay. Each side West Wing. Yeah. I can't wait to tell you my stories. Even that newspaper story. There is a haunted place and it's about a lady who wanders around in a white flowy dress and maybe she's waiting on her hobby to come back that never did.

11:19 And that she also likes to open drawers and it's almost like she's cleaning or something. Nothing. Yeah. So that's the right. It's peaceful, right? A peaceful entity story if there is. Yeah, so don't be afraid to come in today because it's not it's not scary. It's not that scary. Caitlin can do it. Anyone can do it. But I honestly have never had any guests complaints or any guests say that they've experienced anything in either unit. And I personally have never experienced anything either. In the newspaper article, pre the lighthouse society taken over restoration of this property.

12:02 People would come down here and at night they would see something in this window right here. So on your way out, take a peek and let me know what you think. It's about the third window up. I won't tell you my theory, but I will leave that one on the table. We've got something we're really excited to share with you guys. Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties. Welcome to the dead podcast. I'm your host, Ezzy. And on this podcast, I discuss all things spooky and weird from ghosts, demons, religion, to folklore, urban legends, true crime, and all things paranormal with some horror movie reviews sprinkled in.

12:55 So join me on this. Check them out creepy people. You can find their info in our show notes. Time travel noises. So we're back. Hi, how is that history lesson? Did you love it? It was amazing. We loved it. So why are we here? It's not just for history. Obviously we're going to talk about some ghosts. Oh, okay. I thought I was going to say oysters. You did have oysters. You want to talk about your oysters? I feel like I'd just be delaying the inevitable. They're ghosts now. So it doesn't even matter.

13:35 So I'm going to tell you guys some stories about the ghosts that haunt this very building that we're sitting in right now. Where we slept the past two nights. I know we did from night one. We'll talk about that. I'll have you tell your stories at the very end after we go through these because it's interesting. Great. I love it when you say interesting with that evil glint in your eyes. I'm excited. I mean, we kind of heard a little bit of it from Mel already, but there's actually, there's a little bit more in here that I have some. Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Former keepers wise have told stories of seeing another woman around their home and property.

14:17 I know. But it wasn't some like shady shenanigans going on with their husbands. The woman is actually a misty apparition and a long white dress with what I refer to as the poofy skirts. Oh, the poofy skirt. Yeah. Like I do I do like the motion to my hands. We all saw it. Yeah. I was really going to see it and I'm still doing it. You look like you're trying to take off. Yeah, well, we're seeing it and it's really good. I'm going to wear a poofy skirt and I'm going to pat it just like that. They would hear footsteps when no one else was in the home.

14:58 They would hear sounds of someone going through covers and drawers. So not sure if she's like tidying up or she's going about. Yeah. She's going about like her routine and a past life, but she does like to, you know, rattle around in the covers and drawers. Okay. And then they would often see her and she would disappear through a window or a wall. So it's very clear that she's not a human person. Yeah. Well, I mean, one more to be confused about that. That clears it up. I mean, I guess she's human, but she's just not living.

15:39 Yeah. I feel like that's a pretty key component. I don't know. It's overrated. So they didn't know exactly who this woman was, but speculated it could be someone named Maria, who was coming back to find her child that tragically drowned out here in the ocean, which Mel actually did confirm that story. She did. Yeah. And then she went off the record though. Do we want to see what she said? There was like a family living here and they lost a little child. She didn't say if it was a boy or girl, right? I don't think so. I don't think she did. Yeah. The stories that I found too were like, it was a girl.

16:19 It was a boy. So I just wrote child because I think. Yeah. Yeah. And even she said people have seen other girl, but then in one another building, they saw a boy. It was at the school. Yeah. Yeah. Where we found an orb, we took a picture at night and it definitely was not the reflection of the light in the camera lens. It was an orb. Okay. It definitely was. Yes. Confirm. Absolutely. We confirm it. Thank you guys. You make me feel so validated. Well, I'm an enabler and a validators. Same. Okay. This is why we all get along. I also talked to Mary from the Olympic Peninsula Paranormal Society.

16:59 That one shot. That's amazing. Good for you. And she told me when they were investigating here that they used the Estes method, which we all, we talked about it yesterday, but I'm going to go through what it means. Okay. Good. Yeah. Just in case some people don't remember. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And this is when someone listens to a spirit box through noise, canceling headphones and their blind folded. So they're really focused on hearing the words that come through. And then the person listening says whatever they're hearing out loud while the people on the outside are asking questions. Yeah. That sounds good. Yeah.

17:39 The bifurcals are present doesn't know what the other people are asking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you're playing out loud and there's multiple people around, it's kind of hard sometimes to decipher what is actually coming through. And then you know what questions are being asked so that can like skew your. Yeah. You're listening results. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still sad of that. My spirit box didn't arrive in time. Oh my gosh. I know. I kind of done that Estes method in this lighthouse. We'll do it. We'll do it somewhere else. We'll do it. Well, maybe something closer to home soon. Yes. So what came through when they were doing this method was a little it sounded like a little girl saying window with the light in it.

18:20 Oh. So like obviously she's talking about the lighthouse. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember what Mel was saying when we were in the lighthouse, she didn't say what but she said that there are stories about people saying that they think they see somebody in the third window up in the light. And she was like, I'm not going to say or you know, yeah, share this speculation. But I think I know why I need to know why I maybe it's a little girl who would just like to play her on in the window with the light in it. That's so sweet. That's so sweet. Yeah.

19:00 I don't know if I would say sweet. I say that's terrifying. I think it's sweet. I mean, if I were Zach Began's, I would think that that's a demon child. He may not be alone in that. All children are here. I can't wait to share that we stood where Zach Began stood himself and we were like punch as ghosts. No, we didn't do that because we're respectful. But yeah, we sit in the same attic. I'm so excited to talk about that, but not not this story. Okay. She said they've also seen the apparition of a man that they think is possibly one of the former keepers. And I found a story of a coast guardman that was staying here in the west wing of the house, which is the side of the house that we are staying on.

19:43 And he claimed that he felt someone standing behind him while he was cooking right there in this kitchen. That's next to us. And when he turned around, there was a man there who shouldn't have been there. I agree. Because if there had been a man in here at any point this weekend, I would have been like, you shouldn't be here. Yeah, no men allowed girls weekend. Yes. Thankfully, we didn't see any men. Yeah. Maybe we just couldn't see him. Well, I'm kind of glad now because I literally would have died on the spot. I'm glad I didn't tell you this before. Me too. But apparently when he asked around the other local said like, yep, that's a thing that happens.

20:23 They see a man around this in this house around the property. And he promptly moved to the east wing of the house. I'm even interested in the one where Mel typically stays, huh? Mel's like, I have not seen a single thing. And then you were like, just to confirm what we are we in. That's the west wing. I'm in the safe wing. The guests can stay in the haunted wing. Yeah. There was another man staying here and he was sleeping downstairs, which I assume is on the couch that I've been sleeping on. Cassie's preferred.

21:04 Yes. It's a very comfortable couch. I'm not going to lie. Like I would sleep there all the time. I'm just going to stay. Yeah. So he was sleeping and he woke up abruptly to cold, squeezing hands around his neck. Oh, his neck? Yeah. What the hell? No, thank you. Wow. I just like got really cold around my neck. No way. Nothing was squeezing me out. I actually did just get out of cold myself too. I think he's like, I don't have my sweater. Me was just like, because we're talking about chili topics. Yeah. There's nothing to do with the fact that I ran around the whole house before we sat down and turned off all the heaters.

21:46 I'm just kidding. I know you're like, you're like, not blushing. What is that? When you're like, kind of like red and sweaty and like, oh, am I? You look like you're hot. Oh, I have been really hot. Flushed? Is that what you said? Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. You're blushing. Do I look like a bit of blushing? Like what a beat. Yeah. Do I look like a beat? Like when I get old, Beatie, I do. You're a beatie, little woman. God. Well, anyway, back to this man. So after he had woken up by getting choked out, he sat up and opened his eyes. Amazingly, like he was able to sit up, which I thought was like, that's really good. I didn't realize, like, with a sleep paralysis.

22:27 Yeah. But he saw a woman running away through the kitchen. Oh. So running past his dining room or sitting in right now through the kitchen. Wow. And I wonder if it's because he was a man. That maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she's not like that. She's a manhater. Maria. Maybe that's why she likes us. Yeah. Okay. But he chased after her and realized that she was nowhere to be found. So there's, yeah, there's not many places to go. You would know if she went outside because there's like two doors to open. Yeah. And then like there's a bathroom. And I don't know this like pantry over here, but there's like nowhere to get out without someone knowing that you got out.

23:09 Yeah. And you're seeing her. Oh, that's creepy. Interesting. But that does go with the stories, too, of the old keepers wives who saw her like disappear in the walls and like go through a window. Interesting. Maria Maria. I see what you did there. What is that? Is that a song? Oh, I was just saying Maria twice. Maria. But that's true. That is a song. I don't even think about it. Wow. Okay. I didn't like make a very great transition transition transition. There you go. Have you heard of the paranormal investigations of historic America? Investigators, I think. Paranormal investigators of historic America. No, but that's not so mean either.

23:49 How do we join? Exactly. Yeah. Let us know, please. Well, they came and investigated this West Wing. And they said they didn't get any action downstairs. Oh, okay. Interesting. Well, we stayed upstairs with the fuck. Oh, yeah. One of the investigators, this is what I was reading and I was like, I can't tell you now. Yeah. This is the part. Okay. One of the investigators felt someone touched her on the shoulder. Oh, shit. Oh, no. And they brought the EMF reader over to her and the dial lit all the way up, but only on the side of her that she felt like was touched.

24:29 Oh, my God. Did we bring the EMF? Oh, okay. I'm getting ahead of myself here. Okay. Should we tell your story? Yes. If it's right in. Yes. Okay. So what happened to you, Caitlin, when we got here and we were, look around. I can't believe I slept up there by myself. I can see why you didn't tell us. Yeah. Yeah. It makes so much sense why I slept with the door open too, both nights. Yeah, I feel like you know, I think you normally do that. No, I don't. No, not at all. Let's see. So I think I had my overnight bag on the bed and I was kind of pulling out some of the clothes and stuff and just getting settled in for, you know, our stay here.

25:16 And I had my back to the door in the hallway and you guys had come upstairs and we're in the hallway, moving around, checking things out. Christina was like Donald and we're looking maybe into the other room and I was sitting there like looking towards you and talking to you, I think. Yeah. And I felt something brush up against the back of my leg. Like in a weird spot, like kind of like the back of my knee, but like a part of my leg where it couldn't have been the comforter or something on the corner, just like lightly brushing it. It also was cold. And we touched the comforter and the comforter was not cold.

25:56 Yeah, we heard you yopen. I ran from the other room and I was like, what happened? Yeah. I kind of forgot that this man said that he felt cold hands around the stomach. So that's interesting. Very disturbing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we like, you tried to recreate the feeling and it wasn't happening. I couldn't do it. Maybe it was a mattress, but the mattress was like lower thing than where you were touched. Like it was like not. Nothing was like, there was nothing at the right height, nothing positioned at like the right angle. I couldn't replicate it no matter what. And I tried. I tried real hard because I wanted to be like, no, it was that. Everything's fine.

26:37 So then I was like, okay, no one touched my friends. They don't want to be touched. If you need to touch someone, you can touch me. And that's when we decided that Cassie would be sleeping downstairs because I don't even want to be next to a person being touched by a house. Yeah, she's even sleeping with me. Yeah. You can't say what that does. Yeah. I desperately need to be touched, you guys, even if it's by someone who's passed. Even if it's quite cold, dead, a hand, a whole dead house. They should have slept upstairs in that bed then because I didn't stop there. So yeah. Okay, let me tell this. There's one last story and it's cute. And then we can talk about the other thing that happened to you because of course everything that happened here happened to Caitlin.

27:20 Yeah. I don't want this. I said nothing was going to happen to me because nothing ever does happen to me. I think I'm just like dead to it. You put like the shield up to I think that I have, but I think mine is like from wanting it too badly. Yeah. And I don't know. I've just never seen anything, even though literally everyone else around me and my twin has seen everything everywhere we stayed at except for me, even my own house. And I'm like, man, I've really never seen anything somewhere. I don't care. Well, I might like it this way. Maybe some, like I said, I'm a little bitch. You know, but you're like, I'll go to the cemetery and the dark with you. Oh, I know because I don't think I'll see anything.

28:01 Yeah, you're like, I don't know. Yeah. I hope I'm with you when it happens. Actually, yeah, that would be cool. If we both saw something for like the first time. Well, a good thing there would be someone else there to revive me. Yeah, I said I would die on the squad. I just, I'd probably throw up and then fall over. I don't know. Oh, my gosh. Can't take her anywhere. Can you imagine if you're shooting like a ghost hunting shell? I'm like, oh, God, Mom, is that what? Yeah, she's possessed. Oh, gosh. Okay, well, this last story is really, it's kind of sweet. Well, I don't know. Okay, I'm a like it, but what's new?

28:44 So when they were investigating, they saw a shadow in the room. I think it was one of the rooms upstairs. And at the same time, the EMF meter went off by the window and they speculated that it was a ghosty cat in the window. Oh, that is cool. Because I guess it was like right by the window, like in this little area on the window seal. So, yeah, didn't Mel say something about a ghost cat somewhere? Yeah. I think it was in like one of the other buildings. Yeah, yeah. As she mentioned, a ghost cat story. I wonder if it roms around like two different buildings on the fort. Yeah, probably. That makes sense. That is cute. That is very cute.

29:25 But maybe you wouldn't be allergic to a ghost cat. I mean, doesn't have dander. Yeah. So you might like it. Yeah. All I got to do is just find myself a dead cat. Yeah. There's a ghost cat at Man Racer too. Yeah. That's right. We'll talk about it later. But yeah, okay. So tell your other story of the other thing that happened to you. Oh, yeah. I feel like it falls in line with sort of the female ghost stories that... Maybe things around. Yeah. Like cleaning up, tidying up. I was going to say potentially tidying maybe kind of trying to be like, you know, kind or helpful. Mm-hmm. You know, maybe when you're a ghost, you don't realize how spooky it is to have things moved around.

30:12 Yeah. unexplained. But, yeah. So let's see. I fell asleep in my AirPods because that's just what I do every night. But I'm used to waking up and one of them is still in one of my ears. And the other one is usually like underneath my pillow. It's usually pretty close. It doesn't fall far. Right. Because like, what are you doing at night? Like, playing around and flinging things. I mean, sometimes. Yeah. I do a lot of... I do my floor routine, actually. I don't know if you know this, but I'm actually a gymnast. Oh, yeah. I'm just like, "Only my sleep." I see.

30:53 Yeah. So I woke up after our first night here and I was like, "Oh, where the hell is my other AirPods?" Like, I cannot find it. And so I pick up the pillow. I kind of start by looking in, you know, the spots on the bed where I've always found them. The next morning, I'm picking up all of the pillows and I looked on the floor right next to the bed. Okay, well, this is weird. It couldn't have gone far, right? You would think. You would think. You would think. And I started feeling like alongside the mattress and in between the bed frame, I looked underneath the bed, which after being touched at the corner of the bed the night before was terrifying, but let's see, where else?

31:41 And then I took out the duvet and like kind of shook it. I shook the sheet. I got on the bed and I'm like rubbing down like the whole surface of the bed. I flattened out the pillows to make sure I didn't accidentally like shove it inside of the pillow. So my sleep. Yeah. What'd you say you were patting it down like you were looking for wet? Yeah, I was. I was. I was patting that bad boy down like I was in the TSA. For sure. For sure. Just given a little scoopy grow. Right. Yeah. Give it a good wanding, if you will. I mean, what are you supposed to do?

32:21 I don't want to just have like a missing air pod. You know, I really am. I really am. And it was starting to get really weird because I had like torn apart this whole fucking bed and I'm like, where is my air pod? Yeah, you should have seen it. Yeah. I should have. I'm feeling because you know, the sheets are white, so I'm thinking, well, maybe I won't see it. So I should just feel around all the whole bed and make sure it's not in there. And then I turned around, being as I was going to go and get in the shower because I was like, well, I don't have time for this. And then I turned back to grab something off the night, Stan. My air pod was in the middle of the bed. That is like, it's so cool though.

33:04 Like, but like you had to have hidden the air pod from me to be able to then put it out. Or maybe somehow fell somewhere you just didn't, you were going to find it. Yeah. It grabbed it for you and it placed it on the bed. But also like it could have just taken it to mess with it. It's like funny. You know what's horrifying? And I don't know if it's just Mexico, but in Mexican folklore, like if things go missing, it was a dwindier, like a little. Are you not supposed to say that? I mean, I say it all the time. Oh my gosh. Okay. So we had someone send us a story and they're like, you're not supposed to say this thing, but it starts with this letter and it rhymes with something else and then you looked it up and you're like, I really want to say it out loud right now.

33:47 And you're like, why do I have this weird urge to like say this out loud? And then I kept like, this keeps coming up in like different podcasts. I keep hearing it being said. And two girls one goes to talking about it one time. They said it like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like, it's like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. It's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. It's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times.

34:32 And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. And I was like, it's like a thousand times. Interesting. Now feels like a good time to take a whiner mission. But don't be scared. We'll be right back. You guys, we're back. You guys, we're back. You guys, we're back. You guys, we're back. And don't worry. We did get more wine. Well, of course. But yeah, that's why I'm like, I think I'd rather it be this nice ghost lady that's just like rearranging things than a dwein there. Yeah.

35:12 That makes sense. My theory was that originally that she had touched you and then like, was apologizing to you. But now I kind of think, what if like a cat rubbed against her leg? Oh. What was it a rubbina or was it like a grab? Wasn't a grab. Yeah, it was more a grab. Yeah. Like, like, a hide and tend to you. Like, they know that I'm allergic. So they always come up and they're like, I'm all going to say the height of where you were touched. Could match the height of a cat. Exactly what I was thinking. What is the cat? What if the cat took your air pot and was like batting it around and playing with it? That's like a funny. The fucking cat took someone's shit again. I got it. Let's just put it back.

35:52 Okay. I like that. I feel better now. Oh, yeah. Still like I'm so ready to go home now. I have to say I did not bring out the MF reader in this house because we're staying in here. I did. Oh, you did. I did last night. I remember because it was only going off by the heaters. Oh, that's right. That's right. And that has to be something to do with the heat itself. Yeah. Yeah. That's like all the way up at the heaters and I'm sitting directly in front of a heater and I'm like, is this why I'm like getting tired and. I would argue it's the heat. There's also a heater in the kitchen. Like it's not directly behind the oven. But I'm like, I don't know if that because I know he and I was like messed with your mind a little bit.

36:34 I didn't try it upstairs though. Yeah, we didn't like it. Maybe right before we leave. Yeah. Okay, well, we have to go together. I'm not going to do that. Yeah. We do have interesting stories about the MF reader at another place that we're going to be talking about in the future. Yeah. That was wild. That was so cool though. I'm so glad we did that. T's, T's. Well, we still have to do the tarot. Sorry. You can start talking about the MF at Men Race and my ears went like. That's weird. Yeah, I got like a weird. You know, like when you need to like, you have to like swallow on an airplane like. Yeah. So that you can use. Oh, weird. It won't stop. All right. Okay. I've already done. I did it a pretty solid shuffle. You know how I feel about that?

37:16 The mjish. Oh, wait, before you guys do this, you think we can share a Mel's picture story or no? What would you picture story about this little boy? Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Yeah. So apparently this lighthouse, because this was the former lighthouse and they moved it to the other lighthouse, but it's not the only haunted building in this whole place. Like, there's a bunch of little buildings that Mel took us to, but you're super cool. I was like, this is great. Yeah. What are them being the school? And she said that there's people that will quit right away. Like they'll start working with the kids because things happen. She's never seen anything and like good for her seriously.

37:57 But yeah, some people will just quit. And one of those people, it was at the school house. Yeah. And we took that to it. I don't think we saw anything but orb. Or the orb. Or a close. Of course it wasn't orb. She had said that the school, that is the one place where she is for sure, seen something and they just cannot track down the camera phone photo that shows the little boy in the window. Yeah. So she was, I think a friend took a picture of, in front of the school house and the whole school house, you can see behind him. And then he showed her the picture and in the picture, he hadn't even noticed it because he was in the picture himself. And then when he showed it to Mel, there's a little boy in the third floor window and he hadn't seen her and he was so freaked out.

38:44 Obviously. And she said he has not stayed late inside of this place since that happened to him. And then they can't find the picture. Yeah. But she physically saw the picture. Like there's no, there was no way for him to doctor it and make like add things in. Right. Probably it like a flip camera phone, you know? Nobody's photoshopping the other. Right. But yeah. And I don't know, did you guys get any weird vibes? Because we only saw the outside of the school. Yeah, we just like drove by it. But I don't, I don't ever get, I kind of get weird vibes sometimes. But I only got weird vibes at the other place we're going to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. That was crazy. Where's Zach Baggins stood in?

39:24 And our Lord and Savior. Zach Baggins. Is it Baggins or Baggins? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Honestly. Where do they call them? And that's why we drink. They always call them like a specific name and I never remember. Oh, yeah. They. Yeah. They. They say they're Ryan's with pepperoni. Bagel bites. Bagel bites. Yeah. That's like, oh my god. You guys, do you remember? Yes. I was going to ask the cart Bagel bites here last night. Oh, shit. So close. Oh my god. We already had Zach Baggins delivered. Oh, man. Do you think we say his name enough times we might summon him? I think so.

40:04 Yeah. It's like Beetlejuice. Baggins. Bagel bites. Bagel bites. Bagel bites. But yeah, we saw this cool from outside and like I didn't. I was looking at the window, but maybe we just went there a little bit. Yeah. It was late in the morning. What was the other building that we walked around inside of with Mel, though? Was it this cool? She thought it was like the juvenile detention center. Yes. I got there's a couple of spots where I was like, I had a MF reader out the whole. Is this the one that has a radio station in now? Yeah. Okay. I had the MFR reader the whole time. We were in green the whole time, no matter where we went inside that building. And that's the super weird thing about the MF reader. Like in other places where like, you know, the men risk a hotel where we were at.

40:48 It was there was specific spots that were so like lit up. And then like other spots that weren't. And even in here, there are spots that's like green. And that building that we went to, it was green, completely green the whole time. Yeah. I feel like maybe some of it is just knowing that it, you know, what it was before. True. You're also sensitive. So you're probably sponging up whatever like emotional energy was laying around. I'm the opposite of sensitive. Yeah. So if anyone was going to feel something, it was going to be you. Yeah. I don't know. Like that's the other thing is like kind of more recently like learning a little bit better. Like how to sense whether there is something there, but whether or not it's like a truly like if it feels malevolent, you know, if it feels like darker or ill intentioned.

41:40 So sometimes there can be something there, but I feel like I don't know why, but I feel like there's, it's an eerie feeling. It's not scary person. I don't know. Boom. Boom. Was that scary? The other spot too, remember she said that the, I forget what they call the house, but number 11. Oh. It's the, it's the non-commissioned officers housing. Yeah. There are like low up houses and then yeah, they're like what three two story houses maybe. I think so. I think so. Yeah. And she said was like, there's no stories, but she got where feeling there.

42:23 Right. Yeah. Mel, I think, has said she's never really experienced anything specific, but that whenever she's been into number 11, she has gotten a very like uncomfortable and eerie feeling. She doesn't like to go there at night. She doesn't generally like to be there by herself. It sounds like. Mm-hmm. And I don't blame her. Yes. Yeah. And maybe it's because she told us, but it did look like that one did from the outside. And as soon as we pulled up to that one, that one felt the creepiest from the outside. So for what is worth? Mm-hmm. I mean, I like number 11. I don't want to think it's creepy.

43:05 It's my lucky number of the day. Yeah. And you're the creepiest person I know. So like, I feel like if the shoe fits, it checks out. Maybe the sign I need to break in there. Allegedly. Yeah. Can we talk about the castle really quick, too, even though it's not like haunted or anything? Oh, it's so cute. It's so cute. And there is that story. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was like, yeah. Mr. Alexander, do you remember his name? Just Alexander. Alexander. Yeah. Yeah, it was last name, first name. I don't really know. Okay. Well, we don't know. Something Alexander. So we'll call him Mr. Alexander. He met someone, a beautiful lady.

43:51 I know. I know. I know. Come on. You don't want to marry someone just to help. Have you guys watched 500 days of summer? Yes. Okay. So when you first watched it when you're younger, you're like, oh my god, she's like, she's leading him on. But from the beginning, she was like, I don't want anything serious. Oh, totally. Maybe that's something it wasn't. So I'm thinking that Mr. Alexander made it something it wasn't. Yeah. And he was. All out for no reason, even though she's like, you're not going to do this, but the castle and maybe. I don't know. So I don't want to be serious. I don't know.

44:32 But then how do we, we know that it's not totally clear. We certainly can't like verify it with, you know, any certainty as far as historical accuracy. But the legend is how do we think this landed? Should we, I mean, do we want to share that story? I mean, why not? The story that everyone knows. I'm just area. But yeah, so he after, after she did not marry him, then he died by civil side. I just want to have him. He couldn't take it. Yeah, he couldn't handle it. And yeah, the castle is still there. It's beautiful. It's so cute, just small. Yeah. There's plenty of other pussy in the world.

45:12 Like was hers just like the magical of all magical pussies? Like what was so special? He was in love. You monster. You monster. You're a monster. You're a monster. You're a monster. And if you've seen this castle, okay, it's so fucking cute. It is the cutest castle ever. I wish I could live in it. I'm very new. Mr. Alexander. She doesn't deserve that castle. Yeah. I hope that. I'm so excited. No. It's, well, we don't know which way it went. I mean, but you know, the idea that he would, you know, then die by completing suicide in that beautiful castle. That's kind of sad. But I hope that like all of the single ladies in the town saw this castle and were like, ooh, right.

45:59 It's a single now and like tried to hit him up and he found the love of his life and they lived in this beautiful castle. And he just died at old age together. But the story, the funer urban legend spread around is that he died by his own hand in the castle because then you can say, oh, what if he's like there now as long as he didn't. Woo. Precisely. Yeah. Well, is there anything else? I know. I'm like, sorry, I keep thinking of all that. I mean, I had the two that I had off the top was like, for sure, we wanted to talk about the school thing, the cabin on 11 or whatever it's called. Oh, we didn't get to go up there, but Mel also pointed out, I think kind of by the castle area, there's like a road.

46:45 And if you go up there, not in car, but hike up there, there's bunkers. Oh, yeah. People have stories about the bunkers that they see things up there. It's creepy. It's a spooky vibe, but we didn't go up there. Yeah. We said, you know what, Mel? I believe that. Yeah. Cold, it's dark. Yeah. So if I had like a bigger jacket, I might have been more tempted to go. Yeah, yeah. Next time I want a bigger jacket. I thought it was going to be nicer for trice. Yeah, because I was already hungry at that point. That's true. We've got some trail mix with us, bigger jackets, flashlights, spare box, and then we can go up there next time. We got this. Yeah. So that's another supposedly haunted spa in this little port.

47:26 Maybe because obviously this port is in port Towns-in, but then there's other haunted places outside of the port. So many haunted places. Oh, yeah. All of these are just inside this port, which is beautiful, a beautiful place. Yeah. So we mentioned an eagle earlier, and we actually just came back from seeing an eagle like having lunch on a tree, and it was like tearing this other animal apart. You can hear it. Like ripping this other animal apart. It was the coolest thing. It was so-- Yeah, we were watching Animal Planet. Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Gotta put, like, my David-- David Artinbaro, voice on. Yeah. I don't know. I can't-- I'm not striking the right balance, because he doesn't-- he doesn't have the Australian little to it, but, you know, I'm going to work on it, okay?

48:12 Okay. Workshop it. And then you have Acto-is. That'll be a really fun thing for TikTok. Just me trying to-- me aton burrow. Oh, there's a little eagle. Yeah, we have so many videos of this thing. Yeah. I'm like Steve Irwin. I feel like-- maybe I just Irwin it, because I don't know if I can act in burrow it. I wonder if we can do a silence and have the ghost of Steve Irwin possess you and do TikToks. Oh, my God. That is-- that's a lot. That'd be cool. No offense to his family. We love him, literally. Yeah. Yeah. Now feels like a good time to take a whiner mission, but don't be scared.

48:54 We'll be right back. You guys-- We're back. And don't worry. We did get more wine. Well, of course. Okay, we should use a chair room. Yeah, let's do chair room. Okay, I'm going to shuffle one more time. I'm like, "Hey." Lighthouses. Don't make me a ghost. Oh, interesting. It's funny you mentioned an eagle. Oh, I don't think that's an eagle. I think it's a hawk. Yeah. It's still though bird. That is interesting. Yeah. I printed her bird. Interesting. I was just saying it was an eagle. Yeah, it's an eagle you guys. Wow, we pulled the eagle over. Let me see. I wonder if there is an eagle in the deck.

49:35 There probably is. I would think so. It's a red tailed hawk. So in the little book of the P&W deck has a little story of this hawk. What goes through a bird's head the first time they try to fly. As they hop off the edge and plummet toward the ground, are they feeling trepidation, fear, a sense of rightness driven by the force of instinct? Oh. And as they open their wings to catch the air, gaining altitude and control for the first time, do they feel relief, accomplishment, joy in finding their purpose?

50:16 In performing the action that every aspect of their body has evolved for. Question, is each unique in their own reactions, feelings and eagerness to step off the edge? Or do they just fly? Oh. Okay. I like it. Yes. Okay. Two of ones are keywords are developing goals, involvement in a creative project, taking action and choices. Oh. Oh. Oh, the whole time I was reading that, I feel like this is a reading about us and like what we're doing. Yeah. We'll bet. Right.

50:56 This card shows you taking action to accomplish something you feel passionately about. A creative project, a business or an adventure. Absolutely. Oh my god. Oh my god. Three of us. Wow. It is. Yeah. You may have to make a choice between two options or bring two factors together to achieve success. Maybe do podcast. I was like, I'm going to say the same thing. It has to. Because you're in my brain and you need to get out, it makes me itchy. That is me. Sorry. You're beginning to assert yourself, taking charge of an endeavor. Upright, the two shows you waiting to see results in adventure.

51:38 You feel confident of your success. You may accept advice or assistance from someone else, but you won't compromise your position or leadership. We're a job. Yeah. I climb all the way to the top of the lighthouse. Really slowly. Crawled, yeah. Basically. There's a lot of work shaking legs. Yeah. In a reading about money, this card indicates you may benefit from other people's guidance, ideas and encouragement, but want to make it on your own rather than depending on others. I mean, I'd like to depend on you guys. I mean, I feel like that's different.

52:19 I'm not. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. Cool. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I think this is about us. In a reading about work, the two shows you investing lots of energy in an endeavor. Take charge and don't let other people stand in your way, dissuade you or diminish your enthusiasm. Hello. Yeah. We make things happen. We do. In a reading about love, the two upright suggests you're building a rewarding partnership. Sometimes it represents a creative relationship in which it says to people, but I think they're saying that because it's a two of ones.

53:06 Obviously it's two more people. Two more people. Two groups. Inspire and encourage each other. Yeah. Women inspiring and encouraging other women. Women supporting women. Yes, about like really long. The boss. Women's history month. Is it? Oh, and you're right. Look at us go. Yeah. And we got all of those books about the women light house keepers. We did it. Oh, and we did it. And meld the woman light house keeper. She is the keeper of the light. Yeah. Like when the title. Yeah. So cool. Well, I found these light house playing cards.

53:46 And I figured maybe we can draw one of these. Yes. Because we like to draw from regular decks sometimes. Yeah, we do. So we're going to see. And then we'll have to like remember what they all mean. Hopefully we can. Okay. Nine of hearts, which is cups. That sounds right. Didn't we look this up at some point? I can look at them. But I'm pretty sure it's cups. I think you're right. I don't know what this means. I kept seeing. I kept seeing a cups card as well. If it is cups. So I feel like that's right. Yes. Nine of cups. Hopefully it's good. Not bad. We just delete this part. We just delete this part. It's a waste of time. It is good. I mean, there's no bad. I know.

54:26 Coming from the people who say there's no bad cards. There's no bad cards. Okay. Our keywords are wishes come true. Oh. Good luck. Happiness, abundance, and generosity. Wow. We got a lot of generosity this weekend. My dad really did. A crazy amount. Yeah. Often called the wish card. The nine of cups is one of the most fortunate of all cards. Oh my God. And bodes well in any reading. Some decks show a wealthy person, perhaps a tavern owner, or inkeeper. What the-- What? Wow. Sharing his or her largest with others.

55:06 Oh. Filling their cups. I love that. I want to say Mel filled my cup. Yes. She overflowed our cups. She really did. Yeah. You've achieved a position of comfort, abundance, and happiness. Now, you eagerly share your warmth, love, good cheer, and other goodies with people you care about. The universe is smiling on you. We got a lot of goodies too. We got so many goodies. In a reading about money, you can expect good fortune when this card appears. An investment pays off. You get a raise. Maybe even win the lottery. We are not those numbers.

55:47 You were talking about getting lottery tickets. Because our horoscopes gave us numbers. That's crazy. Okay, let's get to it. Let's do it. Yeah. And when we win, then we can make a sizable donation to the lighthouse society. When we win, we can buy lighthouses. That's right. That was our other plan. All right. Rather than hoarding your loot, however, you share some with others. Absolutely. There's no point in being rich alone. It's no fun. It's true. Yeah. If the reading is about your job, the Nine of Cups suggests a promotion or landing the job of your dreams. Yeah, we can all -- We've been talking about quitting our jobs all weekend.

56:28 I do want to try and get fired. Make that so deep phone. Yeah. You feel fulfilled, happy, and inspired in your work. However, you undertake brings success. In a reading about love, you've learned to open your heart and enjoy a richly rewarding love life. This card may describe a joyful, emotionally fulfilling, committed relationship or an abundance of romantic partners. Oh. Are we going to be in a relationship, you guys? Are we having a relationship? I'm just kidding.

57:08 I'm the only gay person here. Is that my gay? Is that what you call it? Half gay? Half gay? I think they refer to that as vice. I don't know what it exists, but I kind of like half gay. Half gay? I'm new here, guys. Yeah, I just got my ancestors reading Hs. But it turns out I'm 50% that bitch. That was mean. I just took a sip of coffee. I almost spit it out. There's an extra excerpt at the end here, and I think it's kind of fitting. It says, "Nature is held together by the energy of love."

57:49 Oh. Which I feel kind of reminds me of being up in the lighthouse, especially during the actual tour yesterday, and it's such a beautiful natural scenic view. And Mal was talking about how a lot of the people that were keepers, they would see a lot of tragedy in their time just because of the nature of their work, but they also had the opportunity to save a lot of people. I thought it was really sweet too, and she's like, "And now we're here saving the lighthouse because they saved so many other people."

58:30 Yeah, that was beautiful. She had such good energy. Like, there was how she loves this place. Love it. And now I love it too. Yeah. Oh, we should be at the least. I know. Can we just love you forever? I'm down. I wish. Now that we know the ghosts are sweet. We love it. Yeah. They could play with the ghost cat. Yeah. All right, well, should we do our sign-up? Have a good day. Have a good day. Have a good day. Stay at spooky. Come visit and feel the good vibes. And, you know, if you're a man, maybe don't sleep on the couch downstairs.

59:10 We're in. See you at the lighthouse. [Music] So that's Canada. Over there where the sunset is. Oh really. Oh my God. Hi, Canada. Hey, girl. Oh, hey.