Feb. 12, 2026

Friday the 13th: Paraskevidekatriaphobia & A History of Bad Luck

Friday the 13th: Paraskevidekatriaphobia & A History of Bad Luck
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In this episode we examine the history behind one of the world’s most persistent superstitions. Friday the 13th has long been associated with fear and bad luck—but where did that reputation come from, and why does it keep resurfacing across the centuries?

Join us as we delve into the fear of Friday the 13th – known as paraskevidekatriaphobia – tracing the date’s uneasy legacy from medieval power plays to modern financial panic and how it became embedded in culture. Along the way, we explore how superstition, greed, and human behavior have repeatedly collided on the same allegedly cursed calendar date.

Then, we shift from history to storytelling with a narrated account from one of the scariest corners of Reddit, r/nosleep, shared with permission from its author, RoséBlack2222. Sometimes Friday the 13th horror doesn’t arrive with curses or disasters — sometimes it starts with something much smaller, and spirals from there.

If you enjoyed the story please check out and support RoséBlack2222 on Patreon & Substack!

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I work in customer service. Being Friday, things were busier

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than usual for us. Our manager, Dell, is the superstitious type,

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and he was adamant that we keep our eyes peeled

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for trouble since it's also the thirteen. While hectic, nothing

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out of the ordinary happened, that is until we got

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one particular customer.

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I've been a loyal shopper at Walmart for over thirty years.

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Things used to be great there untill your generation decided

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to screw things up.

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Hi, Cassie, Hi, Caitlin, Hi, creepy people.

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Oh hellou Helle.

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This is PNW Haunts and Homicides where we chat about

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true crime, the very normal, and Friday the thirteenth.

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Ooh, I'm very excited for this spooky sounds. I love

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Friday the thirteenth, not just the movie.

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Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you. It was actually

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for some of what I wanted to do for this episode.

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It was a little bit hard not to just keep

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coming across stuff related to the movie, and it was

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not a little frustrating. So this is not about the movie. Correct, No,

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it is not. No, but we will still do a

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che reading at the end of the episode for a

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little bit of deeper insight into our topic. Okay, So

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here's the part where I have to say both of

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these incredibly long terms that are not easy to say.

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I'm looking at the script here and dear Baby Jesus,

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after I get through this, I don't have to say

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them again. I don't think so peresca dive decca triphobia

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or for good trisca decaphobia. I think that one's easier.

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Are both specific long form terms for the fear of

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Friday the thirteenth, distinct from trisca decaphobia the fear of

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the number thirteen itself. It involves heightened anxiety, avoidance, or

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ritualistic behaviors often linked to superstitions about bad luck.

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So I think we talked about it in I think

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I did a Friday the thirteenth episode or something I did,

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like a episode about thirteen.

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Fear of the number thirteen did come up, but not.

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Specifically the fear of Friday the thirteenth, which I'm glad

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I didn't go into.

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Yes, I'm glad you have to say it that way,

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I know.

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So if you were a member of the Knights Templar

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in medieval France, Friday the thirteenth was a date worth fearing.

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It turned out it wasn't just unlucky, it was a

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death sentence.

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Oh shit.

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On October thirteenth, thirteen oh seven, King Philip the Fourth

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ordered the mass arrest of the Templars, an immensely powerful

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and extremely wealthy religious military order. Philip known as Philip

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the Fair for his good looks, certainly not his character.

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So they weren't saying, oh, what a fair king like, Oh,

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he's really equal and balanced and ethical. They were saying, oh,

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look at his pretty pretty face. He had a problem.

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He got nine to nine problems with the face a one.

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He owed them a fortune. So he did what many

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powerful men have done throughout history to solve their problems.

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He made up crimes.

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Oh boy.

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Rather than repay his debts, he turned to accusations of

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heresy and devil worship to justify wiping them out. More

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than six hundred Templars were arrested, tortured into false confessions,

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and ultimately executed.

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God blake.

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Did he think he was just going to rely on

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his pretty face to like pay his debt?

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No, I'm pretty sure he thought he could just rely

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on murder to take care of it what a dickle, So,

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I know, really terribly rude. They're riches absorbed by the crown,

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their order erased, proof that sometimes the real evil isn't superstition,

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but greed wearing a crown. That is one very bad Friday.

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Uh yeah, I thought you're saying one very freaky Friday,

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and I was gonna be like, oh.

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Friday the thirteenth isn't always about mass arrests, torture, and executions.

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Sometimes it just wipes out your retirement account. While medieval

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power plays gave the date its blood soaked reputation, modern

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Friday the thirteenth have found new ways to inspire fear

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enter financial fiasco. It's a little bit less terrifying, I

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will say, than you know, a gruesome death.

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But still yeah, but I mean a lot of people

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think money is real, so like this is like.

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Right, Yeah, I mean I think it's very real for

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all of us that have to use money, whether it's

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real or not, to pay for things to keep us alive.

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You know. Yeah, it's kind of a complicated system. It

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really is complicated feelings all around.

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Yep. Even the markets aren't entirely immune to superstition. Same

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cursed calendar date, fewer swords, much more screaming about money.

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Friday the thirteenth has a way of reinventing itself. On Friday,

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October thirteenth, nineteen eighty nine, the stock market took a

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sharp dive in what's known as the Friday the thirteenth

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Mini crash, what.

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They call it mini. So like that makes it feel

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kind of cute.

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Yeah, I don't think it ended up being that cute.

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The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped nearly seven percent in

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a single session, rattling investors already wary after the nineteen

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eighty seven collapse. So it was like kind of preceded

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by something a little bit less mini.

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Okay, it's seven percent, Like that sounds really small to me,

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but that's like really big for the investors.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's a pretty big that's a pretty

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big deal for like you're talking about the entirety of

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the stock market, basically Dow Jones Industrial Average. I'm certain

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I'm not a day trader, I you know, not a

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broker or anything, but that that affects like a huge

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swath of publicly traded companies. It's a it's a lot money.

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Oh sheh.

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It.

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The trigger wasn't superstition, but computers automated trading programs reacting

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to news about a failed leveraged buyout of United Airlines

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helped accelerate the fall. The panic was short lived, but

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the damage was real and the message was clear. Friday

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the thirteenth didn't need ghosts or curses to cause fear.

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Sometimes all it took was an algorithm, no executions, no

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dungeon cells, just flashing red numbers and investors realizing that

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even modern systems can unravel spectacularly. The timing alone ensured

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the date's place in history. Another Friday the thirteenth tied

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to CAS, this time measured in dollars instead of lives.

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It kind of reminded me of Y two k.

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Oh that, yeah, that makes sense.

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You know everybody kind of panicked. Yeah, when it was like, okay,

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something happened and like this isn't good, but it kind

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of snowballed because of people's reaction of fear.

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What are the computers gonna do? We don't know. We

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built them, but we have no control.

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Right. Well, the thing is is that, like, for the

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most part, my recollection is with Y two k In particular,

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there were a lot of computer experts that were like,

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I guess we can't rule anything out, But there were

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a lot of a lot of them that were like

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pretty outspoken about like Y two K being like a

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non event. They're like, listen, we built these and this

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is just like everybody's freaking out. But the reality is that,

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like we're pretty sure none of that's gonna happen.

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But it's seems like, you know, the toilet paper shortage,

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like the same con.

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Like all of all the normies are freaking out and

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all of the calmed down. We're not out of toilet paper.

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It's just just ay the day.

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Yeah, No, I mean, the to be fair, the toilet

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paper situation during COVID, like that was a lot more

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real because people were going to the grocery store and

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not able to like buy toilet paper.

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But like we were making the shortage though, like because

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we're stalking people were freaking out. No for sure actual

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toilet paper.

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Again, just a situation where like it's worsened by people

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reacting in fear. Yeah, almost like there's some sort of

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a message in.

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That and no one wants to listen to the smart

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kid in the class going actually it's gonna be okay.

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Because actually, yeah, Friday the thirteenth has warned a lot

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of masks over the centuries. Sometimes it looks like political betrayal,

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sometimes financial collapse. But not every Friday the Thirteenth ends

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in executions or economic free fall.

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God, I hope not.

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Sometimes, whether spooky or sinister, it sneaks up where you

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least expect it, not in castles or stock exchanges, but

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under fluorescent lights, between clearanciles and customer service counters. And

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let's face it, fluorescent lighting is the scariest of all

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of those scenarios.

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Seriously, Yeah, especially right now, I'm fighting a migraine.

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So like, yeah, oh god, there's nothing worse. Yeah, I know.

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It's deeply humbling for legal and spiritual reasons. The following

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story is fictional. Allegedly. It comes from Reddit's r slash

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no Sleep community and was posted under the title it's

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Friday the thirteenth and I Met a Witch at my

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retail job by Rose Black. We'll link to more of

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their work and socials in the show notes, because holy shit,

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they have actually quite a few stories that I came across,

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and this one. Boy, Once I start going on a theme,

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I felt like it just had to be here. It

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reads like a familiar retail nightmare, well sort of, just

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a customer who takes a complaint way too far. Whether

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you believe Friday the thirteenth invites chaos or just reveals

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what was already waiting, this is what happened next allegedly. Okay,

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so starting our story. It's September, which means it's nearly

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my favorite season fall. Yes, the scorching heat is at

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least cooling down to a nice middling temperature until the

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winter chills set in. All the back to school supplies

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have given way to autumn decor such as fake pumpkins,

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rubber masks, lawn inflatables, and monster animatronics.

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Oh can we skip summer?

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No?

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Speaking of back to school, a bonus is seeing fewer

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children during the week. Look, I don't have anything against

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kids provided they are a minimal distance of fifty feet

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from me. But when they are running around screaming while

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their parents have this vacant look in their eyes, that's

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when I have a problem. Dude.

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This literally happened to me the other day walking into

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the store. Two kids came running at me, and I

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was like freshly broken. I was picking up prescriptions. You're

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in my boot for me, like I can't dodge you,

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and they just like ran at it was and the

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mom was just like strolling.

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In way behind them, and I'm like, fine, judgment.

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R No, definitely judgment. Fuck you get your fucking brats

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on a leash or something. Can you imagine like if

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like people just let their pets do that, there like

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would be riots, but like you're allowed to just let

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your kid be a fucking asshole. No.

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Sorry.

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If you happen to disagree, spend a few years working

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retail at Walmart like I have, and see if you

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don't change your tune. In fairness, that's only scratching the

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surface of the problems going on in those stores. As

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bad as that can be, it's harmless most of the time.

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Only ever going into the make me want to rip

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my hair out in frustration territory. I can't say the

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same about what happened today. I work in customer service.

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Being Friday, things were busier than usual for us. Our manager, Dell,

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is the superstitious type, and he was adamant that we

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keep our eyes peeled for trouble since it's also the

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thirteen While hectic. Nothing out of the ordinary happened, that is,

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until we got one particular customer. My coworker Steve and

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I were holding down the fort trying to help customers

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as best we could. I was currently having my ear

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talked off on the phone.

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I've been a loyal shopper at Walmart for over thirty years.

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He's already mentioned this several times. I understand sir, things

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used to.

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Be great there until your generation decided to screw things up.

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I'm sorry you feel that way. Is there anything we

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can do to make it up to you? He went

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on a tirade that I wasn't even paying much attention to,

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since I had nothing to do with the conversation. From

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what I remem it was about those damn democrats running

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this country into the ground, several bigoted statements against minorities,

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how prayer should be back in schools, and that certain

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people need to go back where they came from. I

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should mention he was insistent about how not racist he was.

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I think there may have also been something in there

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about how communists have infiltrated the government. The call dropped,

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making me momentarily grateful Upper management hadn't sent anyone out

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to fix the phones? Thank christ, I breathed, putting the

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phone down. Tough call, Steve asked, unwrapping a piece of gum.

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Yep, I feel you on that. Any plans afterwork?

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I'm going to be watching a horror movie.

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Which one?

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It's called ta ka ta kay?

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Is that Japanese?

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Yeah? It's an urban legend about a girl who became

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a ghost after her legs were cut off by a train,

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and there are two movies about it. Steve popped his

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gum in his mouth. Sound pretty cool, he said, while chewing.

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Do you want to come over and watch them?

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Maybe?

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At that moment, Dell came over a panic to look

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on his face. Is something wrong? I asked?

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Upper management is here?

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He replied, breathlessly. What we exclaimed in Unison?

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Someone getting carts that he parked outside. I knew something

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bad was going to happen today. I just knew it.

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All things considered, Dell is decent at his job, but

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when he gets overwhelmed, it's like watching a caffeinated hamster

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running around its cage. He stopped and took a deep breath.

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Okay, we can do this. Be vigilant. Steve spit out

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that gum.

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Dell went away to check on the other departments. Rolling

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his eyes, Steve pulled out one of the trash baskets

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keep under the counter, spitting his gum into It. Tends

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to be a disconnect between corporate and those who have

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to interact with people face to face. As such, inspections

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tend to go as follows. They tell us to jump

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and we come back down without their permission. We get reprimanded.

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Our strategy is to remain as scarce as possible. Usually

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this works. Today was another story. Things were going steady

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all things considered, then the horde came. Normally, these are

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seen further into the holiday season. However, it seems that

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Dell was right about how Friday the thirteenth would be

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affecting things. I was playing Pokemon Go on my phone

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when Steve nudged me with his elbow. I glanced up,

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seeing a herd of customers who weren't too happy. Based

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on their expressions, they seemed ready to take their anger

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out on us. Hence way we refer to them as

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hoards aw shit, I murmured. Then she came. Looks of

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surprise were coming over people's faces. Someone was pushing their

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way to the front. We craned our nuts trying to

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spot who was trying to cut their way to the front.

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To our confusion, a pointy black hat became visible among

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the crowd. Attached to it and emerging to the front

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was an old lady in a baggy black dress with

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a long, hooked nose. People tried to tell her off.

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She gave them such a fierce sink guy. They backed

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away instantly and dispersed. Then she came up to the counter.

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Hello, ma'am, is there something we can help?

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Reaching into her pocket, she pulled something out, slamming it

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down on the counter. It was a cat collar. Then

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she threw a one hundred dollars gift card beside it.

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A few seconds of silence passed, then Steve asked.

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Do you want to make a return?

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I want more than that for the trouble this store

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is given me.

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She explained that the adjuster was faulty and that the

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caller nearly choked her cat.

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Apologies, ma'am, it's been a hectic day. We'll do what

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we can to make this.

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Up to you.

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Is that so?

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A grin crept up her face, showing rows of deep yellow,

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misshapen blocky teeth.

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I think I deserve a little extra for all all

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my trouble. Give me this gift card for free, and

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will call things even.

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The thing about the customer always being right is that

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it goes off a cliff if the store's bottom line

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might be affected, Well.

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I need to check with my manager if I'm allowed

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to do that.

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Steve went away to call Dell. Meanwhile, sensing a growing tension,

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I attempted to diffuse it. Hey, great costume, I told

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the lady, are you getting ready for Halloween early? She

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seemed confused.

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What costume?

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The one you're wearing? You're dressed as a witch? Right?

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Her eyes narrowed.

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I'm not dressed like I am a witch.

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Oh, I see my bad, She relaxed a little.

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I do have a lot of preparations to make for

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the upcoming holiday. Now that you mention it, where's your friend?

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Sorry about that? Our manager is busy. I can't reach him.

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Steve said, returning from his call.

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I'm normally not supposed to do this without permission, but

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I can help you out this one time.

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The old lady seemed satisfied with that response. Steve was

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about to activate the gift card. When we heard someone

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speaking with Dell.

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Everything is up to standard so far. Which way is

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customer service?

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Again?

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This way, sir with Dell was our district manager, Edmund,

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who looks a lot like Kevin O'Leary. He's the kind

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of guy who thinks the company standard should be rigidly enforced.

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In short, doing the opposite of what he says would

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likely improve customer experience. They saw what was happening and

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came over. Good afternoon. Miss Dell smiled and told the

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old lady, I hope your needs are being met.

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Yes, I suppose they are. These two are taking care

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of something for.

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Me, she replied, gesturing at us.

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At least some people can do something right in this dump.

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Well, it's nice to hear from a customer that our

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employees are on top of things. Out of curiosity, what

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are they helping you with?

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Steve was tapping his fingers on the counter. He only

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did that when he was nervous. I could tell he

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was thinking, please, don't mention the gift card. She did

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exactly that, prompting Steve to curse under his breath at

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the mention of it. Edmund decided to get involved.

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Now hold on.

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He said, to the woman.

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How much did you pay for that callar fifteen?

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And how much is the gift card do you want?

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Worth?

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One hundred dollars?

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Edmund looked at Steve.

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You authorized this without permission.

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Steve may as well have been a deer in the headlights.

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What are you thinking?

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Edmund chastised him.

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I was just trying to do the right thing.

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Steve replied, before being cut off.

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The right thing within reason. I thought you would have

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figured that out by now.

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The old lady interjected.

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Wait a moment, are you saying I won't give my

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gift card?

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Yes, that's what it means, sorry to say, her eyes

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irrupted with anger.

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I came out here and waited all.

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This time, not accustomed to dealing with other human beings.

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Edmund disregarded her, trying to pass her on to Dell.

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She didn't take two kindly to that.

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You respect your elders when they're talking to you.

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Edmund ignored her and was about to walk away. The

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woman crossed her arms.

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If that's what you want, we'll play hard ball. I'll

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give you one chance to change your mind about the

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gift card, or there will be hell to pay.

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His response conveyed he wasn't the least bit intimidated. The

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answer is still no. She pointed a shaking finger at him.

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I warned you.

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Suddenly, her eyes rolled to the back of her head

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and she began chanting.

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I think she's having an episode.

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That seemed to be the case until the lights started

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flickering and uneasy feeling working its way.

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Up my back.

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Then all hell broke loose. Edmund was talking to Dell

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about his new car, when, while cackling, the woman rose

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into the air, her eyes filling with inky darkness and

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her teeth becoming red, and pointed.

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I'll teach you to nine me what I am owed.

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We stared, mouths agape as things were rising around her

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and the lights were flickering. Several patrons pulled out their

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phones to attempt recording her. She wasn't having it. Different

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colored whips swirled around her. They made groaning noises. These

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must have been the souls of her previous victims. Pointing

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her finger at our Halloween display caused the souls to

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go into them. The lawn decorations came to life, fueled

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by the power of the dark arts. Next thing we knew,

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they were off their shelves and going after people in

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the store. There was so much happening at once it's

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hard to process. The fake jack o' lanterns latched onto

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those trying to get footage of the event. An inflatable

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Frankenstein monster and Mummy were picking people up and fighting

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each other with them. Lastly, a grim reaper was flying

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around decapitating people. Heads flew and blood squirted everywhere, all

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while that wicked ancient woman was laughing as if this

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was the funniest thing to ever unfold. Several security officers,

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who were at least thirty pounds overweight, tried shooting at

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the old lady while she was distracted, not even bothering

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to glance at them. She made several lights fall on

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their heads. Then they dropped to the floor dead, nearly

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shitting ourselves. We hid under our desk for cover.

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Now do you see what happens when I am denied?

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When I am owed?

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Edmund replied, voice trembling.

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Okay, I'm sorry, you'll get your gift card.

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It's too late. You had your chance. Now you'll pay.

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We heard him run away, crying, repeating a bunch of

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curse words to himself. Suddenly, our desk broke off from

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the floor, flying through the air at unfathomable speed. Along

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with this, several large and heavy objects were sailing through

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the air. Then there were several distant thuds. She's blocked

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the exits. Someone shouted and panic, We're all gonna die.

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Another person shrieked, look.

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At them squirming like that, pitiful lands they are.

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The woman sneered going after them. Seeing where she was going,

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we chose to go the opposite way, under the assumption

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it would be safer. Heop Dell's boys came from somewhere

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amidst toppled shelves. We were able to lift the one

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he was trapped under high enough for him to squeeze

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himself out.

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Thanks guys. Damn this Friday the thirteenth. You do everything

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you can to prepare and you still get blindsided.

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We need to hide somewhere, I said, let's head to

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the break room. Yeah, once she has Edmund, she'll probably

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calmed down. Her next words proved things weren't going to

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be that simple.

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Where did you go, you sniveling little snake?

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There was only one person she could be referring to.

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If you don't come out now, I will destroy this

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entire star.

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Not being one to think of the well being of others,

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Edmund stayed hidden. What do we do now, Steve asked, panicking,

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Dell slapped him across the face.

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Pull yourself together, man, we survived four black Fridays together.

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We can survive this. You two find Edmund and drag

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has no good ass back here.

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You're staying here, I said, shocked, his eyes lit with

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a sharp determination.

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I'll be dealing with that crazy old lady. How with

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superb customer service? Take this?

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He handed us his phone. He went off to search

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for Edmund, having no luck. While doing so, I saw

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that the curse had spread, bringing other objects to life.

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Several people lay in the kitchen aisle with knives sticking

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out of them in a pool of blood. One person's

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hand was in a blunder. Several of our other coworkers

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were sitting huddled in pools of blood, hugging their knees,

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their chests, rocking back and forth. Another person lay in

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the middle of the appliance's aisle with a waffle iron

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clamped over his face. The disturbing part was that it

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still smelled kind of nice, like fresh waffles. This is

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fucked on so many degrees, I said, wondering how we

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had managed to survive up to this point, and worried

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that could change at any time.

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I'm with you, I'm applying to Target after this. Where

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do you think Edmond could be hiding? Steve asked, I

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don't know. A realization hit me as we reached the

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clothing aisle. Wait duh, I said, to Steve's puzzlement. The phone.

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Oh, using Dell's phone, we called d Men's number. Instantly,

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ringing sounded nearby. We realized it was coming from a

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changing room. Steve kicked open the door, showing Edmund huddled

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in the corner, bumbling in a panic to decline the call.

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We tried pulling him outside.

479
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.640
No she's after me, he.

480
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.079
Whined, clinging to the doorframe as we were yanking on

481
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.720
his legs.

482
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:24.839
It's a bloodbath out here because you had to be

483
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.200
a fucking douche, So take some responsibility.

484
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:31.599
Steve screamed. With a final pull, the weight shift sent

485
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.599
us crashing into a nearby display of horror and pumpkin shirts.

486
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.480
We got to our feet. Edmond did as well. A

487
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.640
They Live shirt showing the aliens covered his head. Snatching

488
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.599
it off, he threw it to the floor. How dare you,

489
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.119
he snarled, I'm your superior. You'll end up in the

490
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.440
prison showers when I'm through. Before I was aware of

491
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.319
what was happening, my fist was thrusting forward, connecting with

492
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.680
his nose. I can't side which gave me more pleasure,

493
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.119
feeling the bones on his nose break or seeing blood

494
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:09.240
gushing from his nostrils. Whichever, it will be a while

495
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:14.160
before anything tops the satisfaction I was experiencing. Then Edmund

496
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.440
staggered back from the blow, pulling down several shirt racks.

497
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.960
As he fell backward. There was an expression of disbelief,

498
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.960
as if some natural order had been violated, and his

499
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.880
mind was trying to make sense of it. My eyes

500
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:31.240
went from him to my fist. Something to note about me,

501
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:35.799
as I am a non confrontational person to a fault. Therefore,

502
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.519
all of the stuff we'd witnessed that day, what I

503
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.119
just did stood out as being especially unbelievable.

504
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.759
Holy shit, dude, I didn't think you had it in you.

505
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.200
Neither did I. We dragged Edmund to the front where

506
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.599
that elderly woman had Dell by the throat.

507
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.359
They'll be back soon. Just give them a little longer.

508
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.200
It's too late. We hadn't gray.

509
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.880
Her fingers squeezed his neck, making his eyes eyes bold stop,

510
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.519
I shouted. Her head whipped in our direction. Then her

511
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.599
lips curled upward as she was lowering herself.

512
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.839
And Dell, well you made it after all, she.

513
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.720
Told us, and then said to Dell.

514
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.799
I guess you managed to survive by the skin of

515
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.720
your teeth. Consider yourself lucky.

516
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.319
She tossed him aside. He hit the wall, sliding down

517
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.920
it with a groan. Steve went to check on him.

518
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.440
It was now me Edmund and the old woman. Her

519
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.480
gaze alone was piercing, and her smile only added to

520
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:36.359
its iciness.

521
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.680
Your manager cut me quite a deal. Not only do

522
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.039
I get four hundred dollars worth of gift cards, now

523
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.039
I also get to do as I please with this

524
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:48.799
slimy little worm.

525
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.200
Those words seemed to snap Edmond back to the reality

526
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.559
of the situation. His breath hitched, and he tried in

527
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.440
vain to flee. The elderly woman sent her souls after him,

528
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.400
which wrapped around his body. He was carried back, thrashing.

529
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.880
Please don't kill me, he begged through tears.

530
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:11.920
Don't do anything don't worry. I won't kill you.

531
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.160
Edmund's teary eyes filled with optimism.

532
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.400
Now I have a better use for you, the.

533
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.319
Old woman said. What occurred next is something that's forever

534
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.960
seared into our memories. She raised her finger, lifting Edmund.

535
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.759
The inky darkness shot out of the elderly lady's eyes,

536
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:37.200
spreading out and wrapping around Edmund. Screams erupted from within it,

537
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.359
and we could hear the sounds of bones breaking as

538
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.200
they were compressed and rearranged. The woman reabsorbed the inkiness,

539
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.839
revealing what became of Edmund. A loofa on a stick

540
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.480
matching the color of his suit, fell into her open palm.

541
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.000
I could have sworn, I thought, quiver. The implications of

542
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.960
Edmund's fate caught me to shudder.

543
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.960
I believe that wraps everything up. Let this be a lesson.

544
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.079
Never try to cheat me.

545
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.519
The woman was about to leave. What are you, I blurted.

546
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.960
Her eyes met mine. Then she grinned again.

547
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.480
I already told you I'm a witch.

548
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.000
She threw something made of glass down, shattering it and

549
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.920
causing a green cloud of smoke to appear in the store.

550
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.799
When it cleared, she was nowhere to be seen. I

551
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:36.119
can't begin to convey the cluster fuckness of trying to

552
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.799
explain what happened to the authorities. The cops around here

553
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.640
aren't into doing their job when it counts, so they

554
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.200
as well as chalked everything up to an act of God.

555
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.160
In any case, that store will be closed for a while,

556
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.519
and that means we have to go through the pane

557
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.400
of job surfing. Oh well, we can check out those

558
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.160
Teke Teke films in the meantime. I'll conclude with this,

559
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.079
never mess with a witch, especially during Friday the thirteenth

560
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:09.039
at Walmart.

561
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:12.280
Man.

562
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.239
I gotta say, given witches a bad name.

563
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.239
I know, Friday the thirteenth and witches, right, I don't know,

564
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.159
Maybe I have to say I feel like maybe just

565
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.480
the combination of like there's so many people again, it's

566
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:33.239
just this like self fulfilling prophecy where it's like everybody

567
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.599
just gets so high strung and so stressed out that

568
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.199
it just takes something that really didn't have to be

569
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.360
that bad of a situation and you know, amps it up. Yeah,

570
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.960
and no one is immune, even witches' all.

571
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:53.079
I'm saying, I just hope the cat's okay. That's her

572
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:58.320
familiar of course, also thinking about the guy as a lufa, like.

573
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.639
Can you do you imagine you know, she took that

574
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.000
home and that's her ass grub and lufa.

575
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.000
Oh yeah, getting in all the crevasses. You know when

576
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.480
you said something about Friday the thirteenth not turning into

577
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:14.800
a bloodbath, but you lied to us.

578
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.199
I mean I said it doesn't always, you.

579
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:24.880
Know, I definitely think this is a true story. I

580
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:33.079
also did say, allegedly, although I do feel bad for

581
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.159
all the people that passed in the story, it's not funny.

582
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.760
That's that's not so funny. I'm just saying, you know,

583
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.280
stop booking with people.

584
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.639
Being taken out by like a Halloween inflatable has to

585
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.559
be a good way to die though, Oh okay, I

586
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.000
think it's great way to die.

587
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.880
I just feel like it makes your death seem kind

588
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:56.760
of cartoonish.

589
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:57.440
Yeah.

590
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:02.320
As the true crime genre writer, I feel like that

591
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.079
feels disrespectful. But from like the paranormal perspective, I can

592
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:07.559
see why.

593
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:11.679
That's like, oh, I love it, but we all know

594
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.239
it's it's uh, it's super true, so yeah, we can't

595
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:16.639
make any jokes about it. No.

596
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:26.039
Wow, Okay, I've been shuffling feeling over here for a

597
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:27.880
little bit, getting a little.

598
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.840
I can't wait to see what we're gonna get.

599
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:36.639
I know, what does one draw for this very interesting

600
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:44.079
episode format? What I'm using? The Pacific Northwest or.

601
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.320
The PNW if you're nasty, If you're nasty.

602
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.639
Okay, So where I've I've fanned these out like kind

603
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.400
of the length of my keyboard here. So where do

604
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.760
you feel? Like, where's the energy? What do you think?

605
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:01.000
I don't know.

606
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.800
I'm just saying a broomstick. Does that help? It's pointing

607
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.239
this way. The broomstick is pointing.

608
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.119
Like your left or my left.

609
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.400
It's pointing to my left. Wait you're right?

610
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:20.159
Yeah, okay, And like is it pointing dramatically in that

611
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.599
direction or kind of like a slight like veer in

612
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:32.480
that direction, like dramatically? Okay, all right, let's see. Okay,

613
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.199
I think this is the Three of Swords in reverse.

614
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:42.320
And remember what they said about the blood Yeah in Decapitation, Yeah,

615
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.880
there were people in the aisle laying in a pool

616
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.280
of blood. Oh yeah, Oh it does have a head. Okay, yeah,

617
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.159
the bird does have a head. But it's like like

618
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.559
these are like dark colored petal, you know, feathers. It

619
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.760
looks like they're laying in a pool of like blood.

620
00:37:59.280 --> 00:37:59.760
It dead.

621
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.400
So go look at the card on her Instagram. But

622
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.480
I totally thought the head part was like one of

623
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.519
the pedals, so it was like, oh, it's decapitated, but

624
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.079
it's not, just has a redhead. Yeah, it's hard to

625
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:11.920
see though.

626
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.440
I feel like that is just kind of perfect.

627
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.000
Three of swords in the reverse. I mean it's not

628
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.719
at thirteen, but close enough.

629
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:28.280
Yeah, the keywords are suffering, heartache, regret, grieving, sorrow, and loss.

630
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.119
In the traditional deck, it's a heart with three swords

631
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.760
piercing it. Just looking at this heart with three swords

632
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.039
piercing it is painful. One of the saddest cards in

633
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.960
the tarot. It symbolizes deep emotional pain, heartbreak, and a

634
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.039
real or perceived tragedy.

635
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:51.119
That word ache, Oh that yeah, what is interesting because

636
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.760
I was just thinking, well, there was real tragedy in

637
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.280
your story, and real you know, loss of yeah, loss

638
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:03.440
of money, but also this like perceived allegedly true story exactly.

639
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.400
Well, and this next part I feel like is particularly

640
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.119
appropriate here. You may not manage to avoid the suffering

641
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.000
indicated by the three of swords, However, the card advises

642
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.480
separating true grief from self pity.

643
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.920
Interesting that reminds me of whoever was hiding in the

644
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.880
right changing Yes, Edmund, he was the guy who turned

645
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:27.639
into the Lufah.

646
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.880
Yeah, this is so funny too, because I feel like this, well,

647
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.039
I think you'll see why. I think this is kind

648
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.559
of funny just given the format of the episode.

649
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.519
But we'll discuss the.

650
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.360
Reverse three of swords is actually less problematic and severe

651
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.280
than the upright three. Like, you know, depending on whether

652
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:54.480
you believe the story was true or not. It suggests

653
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.000
you're making more of an unhappy situation than necessary, or

654
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.519
that a disappointment is temporary, not the end of the world.

655
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.039
Perhaps the truth hurts, but once you face it, you

656
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.280
can improve things, pull yourself together, and get on with

657
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.920
your life. I feel like if we just think about

658
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.880
that as like a general vibe, maybe that's a good

659
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.679
attitude for Friday of thirteenth. Yeah, does that? Does that track?

660
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.400
Also what you were saying about like kind of a

661
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.039
self fulfilling thing about Friday the thirteenth being bad, Like

662
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.559
you're just waiting for something bad to happen. Yeah, Like,

663
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.480
just calm down, it's fine. Also, if you want to

664
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.679
return a cat collar because it choked your cat, don't

665
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:40.119
try to get one hundred dollars out of it.

666
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.239
I wouldn't recommend that.

667
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.599
I feel like the switch's name was Karen, just saying

668
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:48.440
a little bit, right, the Karen of witches.

669
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.559
This is really interesting and I'm really curious to see

670
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.519
what you think about how this applies to the story.

671
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.840
In a reading about money, you may harbor about what

672
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.960
might have been, or you're chastising yourself for a bad decision.

673
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.599
Ooh yeah, like even if she was a care and

674
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.800
maybe we should have appeased the witch, I don't know.

675
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.639
Right, well, he tried and then whoever the well, that's.

676
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.920
What I'm saying that the upper management guy, like, maybe

677
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.039
you should have just left well enough alone.

678
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:21.760
Yeah.

679
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.920
The reverse three recommends letting go of blame and guilt,

680
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.159
repairing damage, and starting a.

681
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.639
New job surfing.

682
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.000
Yeah, if the reading is about your job, you may

683
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.840
be pulling out of a damaging and hurtful situation.

684
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:38.119
Yeah.

685
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.079
The reverse three can mean the worst is over and

686
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:45.760
you've learned from your mistakes. Remain watchful for confusion, deception,

687
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:47.079
or poor judgment.

688
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.239
Ooh, watch out for them witches.

689
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.760
Man well, and watch out for bad managers. I mean

690
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.639
some of them are now currently inhabiting aloof of form.

691
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.320
But you know, yeah, he's not the only one. In

692
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.320
a reading about love, this card points to painful experiences,

693
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.400
but you're working on past problems and trying to make

694
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.840
things better. You need to let go of jealousy, regrets, guilt,

695
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:19.000
and fear. Sometimes this card represents accepting a loss and

696
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:19.679
moving on.

697
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:25.400
That reminds me of like the investing things too, right, Yeah, I.

698
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.000
Feel like there's a lot of applications to like the

699
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:32.199
kind of the first part of the episode where it's

700
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.639
like kind of more the biographical section, if you will,

701
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.960
and then there's our kind of more. Uh, I mean

702
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.280
definitely dark, we do. We do dark humor here for sure,

703
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:50.280
But like the second half with this Redditt story is like, yeah,

704
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.760
oh my gosh.

705
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:52.559
That's good.

706
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.039
I wasn't sure how the how the terror was gonna go,

707
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.360
But the broomstick in my mind did not disappoint.

708
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.519
It really didn't. I feel like you nailed it. Friend.

709
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.360
I closed my eyes and I was like, how is

710
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.840
this helpful? I'm just seeing a broomstick. We just talked

711
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.199
about a witch and I'm like, oh, but it's pointing.

712
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:09.760
That other direction.

713
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:13.840
I love that for us, And this is going to

714
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.639
look great in the tarot altar setup that I have.

715
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:24.239
Oh yeah, I have managed to marry the Friday the

716
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.400
thirteenth theme and Valentine's Day and the card is that

717
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:36.199
literally m yeah wow, swords and hearts and red and

718
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.199
blood and yikes.

719
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.320
You know, I totally forgot it was Valentine's Day. I like,

720
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:43.320
we've been talking.

721
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.079
About Friday the thirteenth, February thirteenth, blah blah blah, it's

722
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literally Valentine's Day the next day. Forgot, I know, I know.

723
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.320
So I was, you know, kind of trying to do

724
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.840
my best. I was like, you know what, we might

725
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.840
focus up on Friday the thirteenth and just see how

726
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that goes. But I feel like, you know, kind of

727
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married the two a little bit.

728
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:07.239
Yeah.

729
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.920
I like it. Love it so fun.

730
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:11.400
Thank you.

731
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:17.480
Oh you're so welcome. Yeah. I really enjoyed that. I

732
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have some other stories that I'm interested in doing, Like,

733
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I feel like this is fun for us, something kind

734
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of narrative especially. I feel like for like a theme episode,

735
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it's nice for us because that lets us do something

736
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creative and Hopefully our listeners are, you know, hopefully it's

737
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something that they enjoy that kind of like refreshes us

738
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:46.880
and yeah, well they are creepy, so exactly exactly. Yeah,

739
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just something to keep the show fresh and fun.

740
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We'll have to all need some voice actor training so

741
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I can bury up my voices a little bit.

742
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:56.440
I tried, guys, but.

743
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.280
I know it would be a lot easier if we

744
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were both here with the roadcaster, because I feel like

745
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.000
we definitely could have played with that.

746
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.400
Well, if someone could just feel okay and fucking come

747
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over and do her job.

748
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:09.000
Me.

749
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I'm talking about me.

750
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Hi, you know, what happens will happen, and that's that,

751
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.480
And that's.

752
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.760
The takeaway you should take from this episode. Whatever happens

753
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.159
is gonna happen, and that's that. It's Friday the thirteenth. Yeah,

754
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.159
it's not that serious, Like hopefully nothing actually serious happens.

755
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.880
Yeah, full disclosure, though I did take Friday the thirteenth

756
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:33.400
off work.

757
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.840
I feel like that says, well, whoa more about.

758
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.159
My not wanting to go to work than it does

759
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:46.320
the date. But I was like, hey, you know, if

760
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.320
I'm good, let's take a Friday off. Yeah, might as

761
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:57.679
well do you have any spooky plans. I'm probably going

762
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to start working a little bit more intensely on my

763
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:02.800
next episode that day.

764
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:08.360
So if that counts, you're not gonna watch tik tak No,

765
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probably not.

766
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:09.880
Probably not.

767
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.440
I'm interested to see what that is like now.

768
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.039
I want to look it up and see it.

769
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.800
If that is that real? Is that a real movie? Like?

770
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.679
It looks like it might be. And based on the description,

771
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.559
I was like, you know, actually, I think I think

772
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:25.239
I'm all good.

773
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:27.239
I read it to you. I want to know.

774
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.039
Okay. So it is a Japanese urban legend about the

775
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.039
ghost of a school girl where her body was split

776
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.719
in half by a train after she had become stuck.

777
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.840
She is a Japanese word for a vengeful spirit who

778
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.800
lurks in urban areas and roams trains at night.

779
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:50.519
Dude, I want to watch it.

780
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:56.239
Yeah, this is really interesting. That seems like a good

781
00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:00.960
Valentine's Day movie. Get all snugly and close and scared. Yeah.

782
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.880
Yeah. I have to say, the limited imagery that has

783
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:11.760
come up based on my very specific search, does look

784
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:16.119
like it could be quite gruesome. There are also a

785
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:19.119
number of them that are being blurred out by the

786
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search engine because they're like, that's graphic.

787
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:31.840
Like the Jesus Nles Oh Jesus Chice chice crast. Okay,

788
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:33.039
I have to stop looking at this.

789
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:34.400
That was horrible.

790
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:36.519
You're gonna have nightmares.

791
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.320
You gonna have nightmares.

792
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.000
Oh my god, she looks like the girl from the Ring.

793
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:48.320
Oh okay, I don't know we're talking. No, nope, loosing

794
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:50.920
that tab and am out.

795
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.519
Speaking of witches and scary movies, I watched Weapons. Oh

796
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.000
really that movie is fucking terrifying. Really Oh no, yeah,

797
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:01.159
I wanted to watch it.

798
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.480
No, it's so scary. Okay, it's scary and also sad

799
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:05.280
like I cried.

800
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.760
Oh so I probably can't handle it right, Like.

801
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.639
It's really scary, like I just was not expecting it.

802
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.000
Okay, is it like super natural scary.

803
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:21.360
Creepy old lady witchy and it's got very scary icky moments.

804
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:25.079
Oh yeah, okay, I don't know. That might not be

805
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:26.280
the best for me.

806
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.760
I screamed out loud, and I don't do that a

807
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.920
lot with movies. Like I screamed out loud. Oh I

808
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.719
wasn't like drunk or anything. Well maybe a little, but like, no,

809
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.400
but you're not enough to be crazy. No, you don't

810
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.199
get like I just feel like that is my default

811
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.719
and that is not the case for you. So I

812
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:48.239
feel like that's very informative.

813
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:48.960
I'm glad we.

814
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.320
Had this chat. Yeah. Yeah, I've been I've been waiting

815
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:53.119
to tell you about it.

816
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:53.559
Yeah.

817
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:55.599
I am not built for that.

818
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.719
I feel like I'm gonna go ahead and take that.

819
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:58.519
Off my list.

820
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.599
But it was good, like if you love scary movies like,

821
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:02.159
it was great.

822
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:06.039
Yeah. Yeah, And I think I'm out.

823
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.880
Have have a creepy as Friday the thirteen.

824
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.039
We'll see you next Thursday.

825
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:14.480
That's confusing.

826
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.679
I'm sorry, guys, not really thursdays before Friday.

827
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:19.679
You guys got it.

828
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:24.119
I'll do an Arnold.

829
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:25.119
Yeah.

830
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.519
I suppose that is taking care of something funny.

831
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:31.280
Yeah,