Exploring Places Forgotten: The Allure of Abandon Architecture

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And we heard as clear as day, it was like a fist banging on the bed that we just

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come out of like, "Clear as day, like bang, bang, bang."

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You know that clear sound of somebody hitting on a metal bed for him?

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"Wow."

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Clear as day, and we've just been in there, we're back in, of course there's nothing in there,

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there's no animals, there's nobody else in there, and we were like, "Okay, it was so

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crutch."

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I think it's even now, do you remember the aside of it, you'll be like, "Yeah, that was

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horrible."

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Oh man, I got so many chills you telling that.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Hello!

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This is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all

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things.

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Spooky in the Pacific Northwest, and sometimes other places.

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Oooo.

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Yeah, that's right, we just went to Guadalara.

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We did, and today we're going somewhere else too.

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Maybe another country, we'll see.

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Interesting.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight

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into our topic.

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Well, today is a little bit different of an episode, Caitlyn isn't going to join us the

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entire time.

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Oh, I know, she wasn't invited to this interview that I did.

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No, she was, but it was a little hard to schedule because our guest is in England, England,

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which fun fact, if you didn't know, there are eight hours ahead of the Pacific Northwest.

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So, it's a little hard to schedule.

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We ended up doing it at like my 9am, his 5pm.

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Oh, beautiful.

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No, but we got it done.

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Excellent.

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Since I had to go to work after it, we didn't really have time to do the tarot.

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So me and Caitlyn are going to do tarot at the end for Ben.

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I didn't ask him, I really don't know how he feels about tarot.

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So, Ben, if you're listening, if you don't, if you don't want the tarot, and you're like,

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no, then don't listen to the rest of the episode.

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Yeah, because we're doing it.

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So.

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Yeah, so we interviewed Ben, who is an abandoned place photographer.

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So cool.

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We found him on Instagram.

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I think I was like trolling you with one of his photos of like a doll in our stories.

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Oh, okay.

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That sounds like you.

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Sounds like me.

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And then also, I wanted to quickly show you.

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I want to get your reaction, because he talks about something later in the interview.

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Okay.

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And he made me look at it to get my reaction.

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And I was like, oh my god, I have to show Caitlyn and get her reaction to it.

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So I can like, I don't know if we'll keep it at the beginning and just like surprise people

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when we get there.

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Or if I'll insert your reaction in the middle, we'll see.

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It's fine.

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It's not like the anticipation is killing me or anything.

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It's not porcelain dolls.

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Well, that's something.

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So is it just a house at the beginning?

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So scroll.

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This is an abandoned house full of fun surprises.

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Literally a full.

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When I say full, it's full.

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Like I don't maybe we'll get his permission to share some of these photos too.

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Oh my god.

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Or just link to it, but it is not insane.

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Is that like just a nightmare?

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So Cassie, I feel like yes.

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Technically, I don't see any porcelain dolls, but like they're definitely dolls in there.

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In the mix.

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Oh my god.

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That's a lot.

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That is a lot.

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There's some fun clowns like towards the end too.

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There's some skeleton clowns.

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There's a lot going on here.

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So that was interesting.

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That's the kind of fun stuff that Ben likes to take pictures of.

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Well, not that it's a high bar, but Ben is braver than I.

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I'm going to scroll through to the rest of these.

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Oh my god.

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There's just keeps going.

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Well, they are just piled.

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I'm picturing an avalanche.

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Like an avalanche.

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Like I would be equally fearful of an avalanche that would end my life in this situation.

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As I would standing on like on a mountain.

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I yeah.

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Like, who knows what's buried under there?

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Could there be a person under there?

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Or worse, yeah, a porcelain doll.

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It crawls its way out of all the other toys.

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Oh my god.

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Cassie, I'm home alone all day today.

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Sorry.

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You are a monster.

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Apologies I have to drink.

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I have a bad throat at the minute, so I've got to keep drinking.

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So apologies.

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Oh no.

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That's fine.

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I have coffee because I literally just rolled out of bed.

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Amazing.

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What time is it there?

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9.20 am.

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I'm way ahead of you here.

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I don't like the morning.

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The mornings are terrible.

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And you're like, it's the evening there.

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Yeah.

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Twenty past five in the evening.

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It's already pitch black.

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It was horrible.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well, it's pitch black in my room because I have blackout curtains.

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There we are, both vampires.

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Which is why I don't wake up in the morning.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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So I have Ben with me today from Places Forgotten.

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That's the one.

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And you are a photographer of abandoned places.

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That's what I do.

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Just as a hobby.

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Yes, I've been called Worse.

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I got called a blogger recently and I'm thinking, I've never written a blog in my

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Where does that come from?

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I was kind of thinking the same thing.

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You sent me a little news clip of, I don't know if we're allowed to talk about it or

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not.

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Yeah, what you talk about that is fine.

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They call me a blogger and I'm like, I tell you I've written a blog in my life, but okay.

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I was excited.

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I'm like, okay, where's this blogger?

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I do.

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I want to read it.

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I feel like I'm holding out myself.

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So you're basically on Instagram and TikTok.

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Yes.

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For an app.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully.

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You know what?

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I hope we get it.

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It's like death row.

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I hope we get it last minute pardon.

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Because a lot of my audience are in the saves.

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I think it will happen.

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I think Mr. Beast will buy it.

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Oh, I didn't think about that.

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Is the band not happening worldwide?

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Is it just in the US?

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I think it's just in the US.

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But it's interesting.

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I mean, I know we're weird over here.

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My last video is from 1.4 million.

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So I've really been kind of plugging that as much as I can.

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Yeah.

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But I don't want it to go because something like 60, 70% of my audience is Americans.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, Mr. Beast needed to make this happen in the next day.

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Well, we'll see.

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You know, I think it may be me and you.

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We should put our money together.

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You might think if they accept them though or, you know, like PayPal or something.

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Will they take?

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Actually, it works.

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Three cents because that's basically all I have.

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Well, I don't think I should.

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Maybe no one's offering me.

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I know.

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I think Mr. Beast will buy it.

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I'm hoping he does.

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Like it needs to be said.

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I think, no, it's not just that.

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Look, I think a lot of small businesses have stuff on there as well.

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That is true.

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I don't really see what point.

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I think there's worse since you could focus on the banning tick talk.

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A lot of people are going to say, oh, well, you know, it's destroying people's brains.

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Yeah, but if people want to switch off for an hour, that should be up to them.

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Yeah.

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You know, not everybody who's going to go and, you know, go to a bar or have a smoke or have

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a beer, you know, some people want to do that, you know.

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Right.

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So, there we are.

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If I want to kill my brain, let me do it.

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That's my argument.

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That's my argument.

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Well, so speaking of TikTok and your millions of views on the video, which video is it?

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Well, a lot of my videos, I'm very lucky.

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A lot of them have got millions on them.

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A lot of the funeral homes, my biggest one was the funeral home.

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I could talk about this without people.

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The funeral home is actually gone.

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It was in, yeah, it was.

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It was a funeral home with a pink car skit.

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And that was in King's tree in the Carolinas.

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And I just started with tick talk and I put it on the video and it was an amazing funeral

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home.

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It had like a pink horse in the back.

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I don't know if you saw it.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Pink car skit in the back of the house outside.

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How do I have to look?

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I saw the pink car skit.

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I saw a bunch of herses though and those were one of my favorite things.

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The place was this wide open and even the neighbors that drive past the look of you and they

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wouldn't care.

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And I remember I put the video up and I went to the, we'll call it the movies because you

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aren't talking to the Americans now.

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Not the cinema.

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And I remember I came out to use a little hour in terrible terrible patron and it was on

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a million and I'm like wow an hour and I think within a week it was on 29 million and I

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was like wow this is crazy.

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So a lot of my videos are too well.

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They normally hit between half a million and a million and two million.

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But my last four videos where I only got like in hundreds of thousands and then this video

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has been up four days and it's on 1.4 million.

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So I'm like wow this is actually the best video in like a few that I've done.

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But you know there's a damn thing that as well.

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So.

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Yeah you get noticed.

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Yeah.

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But the video's doing really well.

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Did you look into that case at all?

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I didn't look into the case.

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Yeah well I mean I'll quickly tell you though the woman that she murdered her parents.

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As you do.

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And she lived in the house with the bodies for four years.

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For four years.

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And then they were discovered.

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Yeah she was arrested and then they found the bodies in the house.

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She was arrested in October 2023 and she's now in jail and the house was that sim.

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So I thought why I really needed to do a video in here.

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So I got in and I documented it all and it's horrifying and now somebody complained that

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the video offended them.

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And I saw on the news yesterday that police were investigating this blogger who went into

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this house and I'm thinking well that's me but I'm not a blogger.

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And I would thought what was going to come over and you know put in the door.

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Oh my god.

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And I've had nothing so I'm like well they can't be that bothered you know.

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Yeah but like obviously you're not the killer right because they know that she did it.

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So like why would.

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What's the hard.

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And I was reading all the comments people writing on the news and they were like vile, despicable

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person.

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All this stuff about me and I'm like yeah that's fair enough.

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So.

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Yeah I guess I do see we get kind of get that side too because my co-host we do talk about

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true crime.

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She does all the research or it tells me about it.

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But they people think we're just like sensationalizing trying to make money off of like other people's

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crimes and doing the victims.

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But people are interested in it.

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Yeah.

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People are interested in it.

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It's like okay here's an example we have a true crime exhibition in London right now.

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I'm going to go to it next week and it's got stuff like how can I forget this the guy the

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great Netflix show with the the acid in the bodies.

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Dahmer.

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Dahmer.

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It's got like Dahmer's glasses there.

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Oh.

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And it's got like some of the barrels he used and it's got like Richard Ramirez's

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Clothes and I can't wait to go like I'm yeah he was a bit weird.

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Well they were with Ben anyway.

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So you could say well that kind of thing is sensualizing and making money out of it.

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But if people are interested and people are interested you know.

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Right we've always been interested in it.

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We used to do public hanging like come on.

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Exactly.

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I mean you know could you imagine that would be like a morning what are you doing this morning

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when I'm going to go to the public hanging and then I'm going to go and get bred for

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dinner you know.

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Right exactly.

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Is this that kind of thing in a way people want to see some macabre and some mysterious

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stuff.

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Yeah.

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And then you know so yeah so I'm I'm all for it really.

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I've been to the Zak Bagans' Museum in Vegas.

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How was that Vegas how was that I hear that I mean I really like it.

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It's kind of it's kind of icky though it's kind of like the same thing.

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He's got like murder - murderabilia is that what they call it.

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Amazing.

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Yeah.

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So it's interesting.

302
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Yeah.

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No I bet.

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I mean I have a human lung in formaldehyde on my on my counter. A human what?

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I have a human lung.

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Oh.

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I'm so you know I love stuff like this means that Bagans' collection must be amazing but unfortunately

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I'm not multi-million.

309
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Right.

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I'm not buying respect.

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I mean it could be amazing you know.

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Imagine having done this with glasses you know.

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What somebody had to do is when he was taken to the mall to just swipe them.

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I did on the same.

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Yeah.

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I mean he I feel like if you're if it was like the victims glasses that would be different

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that would be like icky you know.

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If it's the person who was doing the bad thing like let's look at their stuff and make

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money off of it who cares.

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Well exactly I'm all for it.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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So that was my last video but that's doing quite well.

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People seem to like it and people are like oh it's really disrespectful you can take it

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down.

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No I'm not.

327
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Yeah.

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Because most of the people find it very interesting.

329
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So how do you get into these places?

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You know what a lot of people have this thing of oh yeah you know breaking and entering 9.99

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percent of the time.

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These places are open if you just want to be creative and you can climb.

333
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I'm very going to climbing.

334
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So I go to some funeral homes and I'll be like right well all the doors are locked.

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But I can get in a top window that's open and then I have to jump down into the mortuary.

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So a lot of places are open or if not if it's closed local kids will open it.

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But mind you there are some places I've been to that just are not open and I've never

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been able to go inside and that's just the way it is sometimes.

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You're not like taking a crowbar with you and like you know a lot of the Americans are fully

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admitting this and they're like yeah I don't care but no I don't do that just purely because

341
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I'm British and if I get caught in America doing that I don't really think you guys would

342
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like it too much.

343
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Oh yeah.

344
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Yeah.

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Unfortunately but no but luckily I get given a lot of spots that were already open.

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Have they been opened by somebody else possibly but I get there and it's open that's what

347
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I know you know.

348
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Yeah just checking doors.

349
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Yeah checking doors and to be fair I've done some really good funeral homes and literally

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I've tried every door window and you sometimes just find a door window that's open and it's

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like oh wow that was easy.

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So I did one in the in the carolinas in July and the door was just open and I didn't know

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that it shut and they were actually going to put it off a sale.

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And it was in that in period and I was in there and I wanted to go back and get my pictures

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in the environment room and then the owner and his wife came in and I was like oh the

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panic and they kind of stormed in and I was like you're Richard.

357
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I've been here so long waiting for you and they're like who's Richard I'm like oh I thought

358
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you were Richard I thought you were the real estate guy I heard this place was the sale.

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I didn't even know it was going to be for sale I just made this up and then they were

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like oh no it's going to be for sale but not yet but how did you find out and I did just

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think of my feet and they kind of up giving me like a whole tour of the funeral home had

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no idea that actually been in there for like an hour taking pictures of video I was so lucky.

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That's hilarious.

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It's like doing improv.

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His wife was like you know she's seeing open door you don't walk in and I'm thinking you

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can't tease me with a funeral home with an open door and I'm not think I'm going to come

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in.

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But he was really nice.

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I actually I actually felt really bad for lying to him but I was like oh yeah I put in

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the offer definitely I'm sure he told it by now it's all good.

371
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Yeah it went to what was supposed to go to and you got cool photos.

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Exactly so it's all good but it was a really good funeral home to be fast so I was okay.

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My first instinct probably would be to be like I'm a ghost.

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Yeah but a sheet on my head.

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I'm not here.

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That's real.

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Absolutely yeah so yeah that was recent but I just try and be careful I don't want to run

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into neighbours.

379
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Neighbors can be worse than owners sometimes.

380
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Yeah.

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Even though I think what we're going to do with you might your own business you know.

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So yeah but no nine times I'm pretty good because I'm English.

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I remember I was trying doors at this funeral home and I'm literally like pulling on

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a door like I was going to give way because it was just real and then this girl like comes

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around the corner and she's like can I help you and I'm like and I had to make out I was looking

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for my drone on the roof and her dad got a ladder and we're looking for this non-existent

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drone on the roof that was not on the roof because I made it up and I'm like oh I thought

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this place was abandoned he's like oh yeah we're going to reopen this so we've been looking

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to reopen here for a couple of years and it's one of those you know it's never going

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to reopen.

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And I'm like oh I knocked like how do you know I was here he goes all the neighbour called

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me and said that somebody was trying the doors and I'm like oh right I'm thinking what a

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snitch.

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But could you imagine if I was in there I'm looking for my drone in the environment room.

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Inside yeah I accidentally do it into the window.

396
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Yeah it's into the environment room.

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Yeah silly me so yeah so you've got to think on your feet I think being English helps

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right.

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Very touchwood but all the owners are going to see this video and be cursed you can shake

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an FS like I knew it.

401
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There is this place I've been researching for an episode that's here it's called Oculus Anubis.

402
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Have you heard of it.

403
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Is it in Oregon?

404
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Yeah it's not like super well known.

405
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Well I haven't heard of it what is it.

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So I don't know if it's abandoned technically I think some people still live on the property.

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I don't worry about them.

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It is they have right don't worry about them but they have like cameras there.

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Also they're apparently like bankrupt so did the cameras work I don't know.

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A lot of cameras you know for a show and you'll know if they work and not because if you hold

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your phone up to them if you don't see a red light.

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Yeah that's a good good tip good abandoned place tip.

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So what kind of place is it.

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So it is no one I mean no one really knows it's kind of like an unfinished property it was

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supposed to be like a big mansion with like underground tunnels and stuff.

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The reason it's like so noticeable so the front is like this huge gate like arch gate with

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like lions in like two pyramids that used to like have fire they don't have fire anymore.

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There's quite a famous entrance isn't it like a like a bit of a movie layer.

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And it's in like a small town near Portland and it's like in a residential like neighborhood.

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So it's like kind of interesting if you stumble upon it like obviously all the teenagers

421
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are like ooh what's this you know.

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Has anyone got any options.

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People have yeah.

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All you can see like download there's like a long road from the gate and then there's this

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big statue it's like an Egyptian statue.

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And so automatically I don't know why but people think like it's a cult it's like satanic

427
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because the Egyptian is satanic for some reason.

428
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I don't think the Egyptian is less than that.

429
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What I remember studying at school right it's weird it's I don't know why people think

430
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that but because it's so secretive and private and like shady stuff is going on.

431
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People think they're like a cult or like human traffickers because of like the tunnel thing.

432
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Yeah all of that.

433
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There's like a unfinished like mansion there's other weird statues all over.

434
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It could it could be like child trafficking and all sorts there.

435
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I mean I freaking hope not.

436
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Yeah I look into this when we come off the call that sounds cool.

437
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So let me know if you ever try to try to sneak on.

438
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Yeah.

439
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But people have been apparently chased out and stuff so I don't know if you if you want

440
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to try that.

441
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Yes I'm honest to be really scary.

442
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I mean I've had a run in with an owner in Illinois that was horrible.

443
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Some owners can be really scary to us.

444
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It was a it was a funeral home and the guy he'd actually lost his license because he was

445
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rather than giving ashes back to the families he was giving back kitty litter.

446
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That's awful.

447
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So the guy lost his license.

448
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I happened to all the time so he lost his license.

449
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So I rock up to the funeral home at night and I'm like this could be great and I find the

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the environment room that was separate from the main the main house and it's got the

451
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houses and the garage is from like are this could be great and I booked my motel two minutes

452
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away and I managed to get in the environment room and I'm like I'll call it nice cloud everything's

453
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good and I go back the next morning and I turn the corner and the

454
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the car's there and I'm like what where did this car come from and this was like 630 in

455
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the morning and then like the guy comes out and he's like oh hi can it helps you and it's

456
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the owner and he's wearing the funeral home business t-shirt driving the funeral home business

457
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and I'm thinking hang on a minute you've like been outed for doing the terrible stuff.

458
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You've lost your license.

459
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The sound probably hates you why you still here I would have left and this guy is still

460
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kind of you know wearing the funeral home gear and he's like oh were you here last night

461
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because I'd open the door for the prep and I opened it a little hard and it was like that

462
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that mess you guys have and it completely like broken on like a doesn't matter it's a band

463
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of the band and it had glasses well and a glassful smash and I'm like oh it's flying this

464
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is abandoned anyway and I don't man it's all been swept up and I'm like no I'm just

465
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cutting through and he's like no you were definitely here last night were you here last night

466
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you were looking around and this guy was like ready to lay hands and he was only like probably

467
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like 30 something and I thought this is going to be really bad like this is really he's really

468
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angry and I just basically said look I've no idea what he was talking about I'm just cutting through

469
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I said I thought you'll build it really interesting I thought it was I don't know I made

470
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up from rubbish Victorian era or something and and then I just left and he was like don't

471
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you film me don't you film me I got my car and I was like why didn't I just leave the minute I

472
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saw that car on the drive why did I keep venturing in here you know what was I gonna expect I'm super

473
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though but I just I was so surprised because I thought why are you still here you know like if the

474
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whole town hates you've been exposed for that why haven't you kind of high-toward an out of here you know

475
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money maybe yeah owners owners can be a bit sketchy yeah I'd be worried especially like in

476
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America with guns yeah yeah exactly I've never had touch with I've never had that happen thank goodness

477
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I don't really like doing houses because houses I think you're more likely I've got friends on

478
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Instagram who just do houses on their look amazing I don't I don't know I like I always think

479
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with like hospital sooner homes you're better off than houses creep me out because you know I've been

480
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in you know Missouri and stuff and I've seen houses with broken windows like something out of an

481
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apocalypse film walked up there's somebody living in yeah you know we're like all the dogs running

482
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loose and it's just I just feel there's enough houses are kind of a bit more of an invitation for

483
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trouble you know yeah and a gun as well a shotgun you know you can imagine like you know cleetus

484
00:23:12,860 --> 00:23:17,580
running out with a shotgun yeah exactly that's what I picture for sure but that's why if you know

485
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what I'm so lonely easier because you're not really gonna be anybody and everybody that's been in

486
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there is most likely dead so you're okay right well speaking of meeting people have you ever met

487
00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:36,300
anyone who is not alive anymore a ghost I've had some weird stuff go on I mean I've done I've done

488
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:41,340
a mortuary in Paris that still had brains and stuff in it they left a brain behind it's on my

489
00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:48,220
TikTok and like bones and liver and lungs whoa just left behind and just that's creepy and that

490
00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:52,620
was really that was really creepy and then recently I did a funeral home in Alabama that was

491
00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:58,860
Terry had such a dark energy to it it was horrible I couldn't wait to leave but I was on my own

492
00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:05,420
oh that's here he went over for a week then and I did a funeral home in Bama Georgia and Pensacola

493
00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:13,580
and I did them all on my own like it's great fun but the one in Alabama was horrible and I did

494
00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:17,820
one in Jacksonville where the guy was story the bodies and he didn't have air conditioning and he

495
00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:23,100
just left him rotten oh god I did that with Marion if you want to look it up it's the Marion

496
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:28,140
Graham watery okay and the police raided it and they found the bodies and that that was a horrible

497
00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:35,420
energy in there as well there was like noises and everything it was so bad man yeah I don't know

498
00:24:35,420 --> 00:24:39,260
whether you'd actually like to experience these or whether you're okay seeing them through TikTok

499
00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:43,340
all these are on TikTok vote but then the energy in some of these places is horrible like

500
00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:48,620
asylums in Europe where they like experimental them patients and stuff they're horrible as well

501
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:56,220
yeah I feel like those would have the most like strong energy in them as asylums yeah like

502
00:24:56,220 --> 00:25:01,340
um me and my me and my friend David we did an asylum in Italy a few years ago now this place

503
00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:05,500
was huge they used to abuse the patients and stuff it was like a proper asylum like something

504
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:11,260
like an horror story now this place was so hard to get into it took us hours to get in because

505
00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:16,700
it was like a fortress oh wow committed yeah we look yeah we looked round every floor every room

506
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:21,180
make sure nobody's in there there's no animals there's no nothing and all of these have like metal

507
00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:27,180
beds where they used to chain the the residents the patients to the bed and we photographe and I

508
00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:31,820
still remember this still gives me sure shivers that my spine we we photographe this one room and

509
00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:36,700
it had like the shoes and it the clothes the bed but we left that room literally went out

510
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:45,580
went to the netrooms and we heard as clearest day uh that it was like a fist banging on the bed

511
00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:50,540
that we just come out of like clearest day like bang bang do you know that clear sound of somebody

512
00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:56,220
hitting on a metal bed frame wow clearest day and we've just been in there we're back in of course

513
00:25:56,220 --> 00:26:00,860
there's nothing in there there's no animals there's nobody else in there and we were like okay yeah

514
00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:05,180
it was so crutch I still think to David now do you remember the asylum and he'll be like yeah that

515
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:12,940
was horrible oh man I got so many chills you telling that yeah yeah so that was amazing um the

516
00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:19,580
funeral I'm in did an Alabama um I was actually I did it recently and I was on my on my on face

517
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:26,140
fun to my friend Jen in there and I was in the prep room and I said love this place is horrible

518
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:31,580
and literally oh it always gives me shit as well she kind of took a step back and I literally saw

519
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:37,740
somebody behind my shoulder I let back and I was like okay I'm gonna go now and I just got my photos

520
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:42,860
and she said look get the coffins get the car get the casket photos and I just left hard out there

521
00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:47,820
it was like it was horrible and half the building was in complete darkness so I was having to go out

522
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:53,660
to do the casket just with a torch and I'm on my own and I'm like there's definitely something it

523
00:26:53,660 --> 00:26:58,540
is so weird you can't explain it that's the thing you know like a lot of youtubers would be like oh

524
00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:03,340
a demon chase us out sometimes you don't know what it is but you know that there's something that's

525
00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:10,620
there with you and it's just creepy do you have any kind of like protection like charms or talismans

526
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:15,340
or crystals or anything that you bring with you no no no I've never I've never I just go with my

527
00:27:15,340 --> 00:27:19,820
torch my phone because I only film with my phone oh wow let's go with a torch from you take all

528
00:27:19,820 --> 00:27:26,460
the photos with your phone yeah and my video yeah yeah wow yeah I've never had a camera

529
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:31,660
a leg and wrong I think some cameras would be amazing but I think you know you've got to say that

530
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:37,420
you need tripod and I think phones now will probably just as good as some cameras so yeah I just

531
00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:41,500
see our pretty good I'm a photographer though so I'm all like there we are gotta have my camera yeah

532
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:46,780
yeah yeah yeah yeah I've got a tripod for my phone so then I want to take a picture of me like on a

533
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:54,540
slab I can do it but yeah no I take them on my phone that's cool yeah easy you're really good thank you

534
00:27:54,540 --> 00:28:00,540
thank you I just self-informed I just like I might take 100 photos in the place and use 10 but yeah

535
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:06,700
that's exactly yeah yeah yeah that's oh it's a photographer thing it is it is but I've got

536
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:11,340
prints as well and then my prints came out pretty good I framed my I've got some prints framed in my

537
00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:16,860
wall and some people buy my prints nobody's actually bought a print since July last year so I need to

538
00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:21,660
start putting that up on my insor store as they look by some prints you know support the starving artist

539
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:27,980
do you have a website yeah it's my dark room yeah dark room okay nice we can link to that too if anyone's

540
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:32,220
interested yeah the prints are like five dollars oh okay but nobody's brought one since July and it's

541
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:37,820
so annoying because those people add to the basket and they don't check out and I'm like just check out

542
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:45,180
I got like a dollar of print you know but hey if I'm 10 that's you know that's that's breakfast

543
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:50,620
a waffle house so yeah by prints everyone decorate your walls my walls blank behind me I need to get

544
00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:56,860
some stuff on there do you ever feel like you're in a zombie apocalypse when you go to these places like

545
00:28:56,860 --> 00:29:02,940
do you just kind of pretend that the rest of the world is gone and you're the only one there I tell

546
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:09,340
you what so so I was in Japan last year for work and I went to Fukushima whoa you know Fukushima

547
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:15,420
where they had the radioactive disaster yeah wait is it safe oh well I'm perfect yeah look a lot

548
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:20,060
of people now moving back so you're good okay so just like a little radiation have you seen the

549
00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:26,220
last of us yes it is just like the last yeah I don't think people understand right you've got

550
00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:32,540
entire towns and it's even got the cars left the keys in the ignition you go in the stores it's got

551
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:37,420
everything the register the money in the register everything on the shelves the hospitals are like

552
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:43,660
untouched with like grass you go in the casinos everything it's it's like the best

553
00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:47,900
cervix in the world but yeah it's literally like a zombie apocalypse you go in these hospitals that are

554
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:52,620
like 15 floors huge everything I don't know if you're sitting in my postman everything is

555
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:58,140
as left completely like they just walked out well they did yeah they had to you still got all the

556
00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:03,340
people like false teeth on the side and like they're closing the wardrobe dude tell us amazing that's

557
00:30:03,340 --> 00:30:08,620
so creepy yeah you've been have to look at my post on Instagram got some of the hospital

558
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:14,300
on there from Japan I did look through like a few things yeah I really do like I like I got stuck on

559
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:20,140
like the horses and stuff because those are my favorite ever yeah I just want to drive one yeah I

560
00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:24,780
think it's such a shame a lot of the funeral homes have herses in the garage in this one what a shame

561
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:29,820
I'd love to drive one I would just take it and just drive it as my everyday car uh-huh me too yeah

562
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:38,460
I would I've got a friend on Instagram Katie from Boston and she drives a hers so cool she's my

563
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:44,300
idol now yeah yeah yeah she's into the funeral homes I think she's got a calf skin in her in a house as

564
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:50,460
well whoa I think she's headed to a table so that would be cool that would be cool we were giving

565
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:57,980
all these ideas now what is like the weirdest thing you've ever found left in an abandoned place so

566
00:30:57,980 --> 00:31:05,020
in Paris I found brains liver lungs and and the brain and the brain was just on the side just

567
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:10,860
like just out obviously for research is it in the jar that a brain no it's out

568
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:16,780
what that is so he stole it though every really annoyed me I went back two years later and then I went

569
00:31:16,780 --> 00:31:23,580
back again somebody is sold in it I'm like ew I would have had that ew um and then I did this funeral

570
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:29,820
home recently in cop county and that made the news because it was like 35 boxes of ashes that

571
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:38,460
had a fetus in a jar oh that a fetus apparently apparently I stole the fetus I'm like no I didn't yeah

572
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:43,980
so there's that a lot of things you find is uh human remains lost human remains boxes of

573
00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:49,180
remains ashes all the time all the time all the time all the time with their names on the stuff

574
00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:53,500
yeah but in a way you know if I'm doing a few more home and there's remains in them like oh

575
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:59,020
his remains of dolly you know hey dolly you know I'm not alone you know dolly is there with me oh that's

576
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:04,620
sweet okay um don't I do that I mean there's always like death certificates you got the

577
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:09,260
herses with the keys still there which is crazy you were trying to start it and see if it works

578
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:13,260
oh the time all the time yeah yeah I tell them but they never turn on it's really this is what I'd

579
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:20,620
love that imagine if that turned on um death certificates you know and personal property of people

580
00:32:20,620 --> 00:32:27,660
that have passed um yeah to find these keys you know cars with the keys and stuff and then some places

581
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:32,060
at least you just like everything's just left even even when I have done houses you know you even

582
00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:37,100
got like a cereal on the on the kitchen counter like the clothes and the wardrobe and the kids toys

583
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:42,380
on the floor and it's like people just went up in a puff of smoke you know vanished yeah

584
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:48,780
creepy yeah I feel like I've come across some of your photos with like creepy dolls have you

585
00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:55,500
you've had those in your photos right yeah yeah so I did a house in Spain in April 2022 that did

586
00:32:55,500 --> 00:33:00,940
really well on TikTok and the how the woman they collected dolls and it was just four thousands

587
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:07,340
of dolls oh god how amazing thousands and then I did a house in Liverpool England in in July or

588
00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:14,060
beginning of August this year and the woman they collected soft toys like plus keys and I don't

589
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:19,820
know if you're seeing that post head to ceiling every room and you couldn't even move head did you see

590
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:25,100
that post I don't think I have yet I'll have to go look at it yeah you have your phone now I just want

591
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:30,620
to see your reaction yeah on Instagram right or is it TikTok on Instagram yeah on on Instagram now

592
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:36,060
you see the house there with like the pyramid roof yeah click on that and then swipe through the

593
00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:43,980
pictures dude oh it's crazy and I went I got given the pen and I thought oh it's just

594
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:51,100
house and toys I had no idea it was like that you can see that's insane right yeah oh my god yeah

595
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,500
that was a bedroom you had to go through that to get to the bed this is crazy my co-host like

596
00:33:55,500 --> 00:34:01,180
hates dolls and stuff I'm totally gonna show her this yeah I mean could you imagine living that

597
00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:08,060
no it would be like I I love dolls and stuff I have like a bunch above my bed I bought like a creepy

598
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:17,180
Ann Bell doll but this many eyeballs staring at me all day yeah yeah that's so pretty yeah but that

599
00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:22,940
was pretty crazy but I mean if it comforts you I imagine it comforted her maybe she really just

600
00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:30,460
liked the company yes exactly exactly so that was did any of the dolls ever like blink at you or move

601
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:34,940
no but I do walk into the house and they'd all like be falling on top of them they're trying to

602
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:39,740
like save me yeah and then you'll be stepping on some and they start playing the music and dancing

603
00:34:39,740 --> 00:34:44,940
and stuff oh that's just literally like the horror film yeah it was great though it was really good

604
00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:50,700
did you get videos of that yeah it's on my TikTok oh yeah gonna go check that out too

605
00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:55,580
that's okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's really good it's called Helen's house the lady

606
00:34:55,580 --> 00:35:00,220
called Helen lived there apparently she was sound dead Helen surrounded by dolls I don't know

607
00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:06,220
how true that is that would be so sad for the dolls I know like our owner is dead what do we do

608
00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:14,860
is there anywhere that's like on your dream like list a place that you really want to go I like to go

609
00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:20,780
to China one thing I want to do is I don't know if you've seen it you've got the abandoned space

610
00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:29,020
rockets in Kazakhstan no it's like an entire side of like space rockets like as in rural life

611
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:35,820
but you it's something like 24 hours to get to Kazakhstan because you have to go via somewhere else

612
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:42,620
and then you've got a 27 mile walk through the desert together wow okay that's a long walk

613
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:48,380
yeah and you can go and I think you can still see it but people have been getting caught and

614
00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:54,460
I don't know it look if if I could get there realistically then I would go but

615
00:35:54,460 --> 00:36:01,020
I think it would take me about two weeks and I've got no one wants to do it with me right um so I

616
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:05,020
just like jumping up and going to the States like I was in the States for a weekend not long ago I just

617
00:36:05,020 --> 00:36:07,740
I went on the Saturday morning and I came home on the Monday night

618
00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:14,700
well just to do like grease spots and I was like yeah I flew to Orlando I woke up 4 a.m. I drove to

619
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:20,300
Alabama and I went to Georgia to Cobb County did that one the next morning and the next night I flew home

620
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:27,500
that's crazy just for fun yeah yeah I'm just so hobby I don't make any money from it really yeah

621
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:32,540
if I make any money it goes straight away I don't profit from it at all you know right I mean I feel

622
00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:37,100
it we're kind of in the same situation with the podcast that's why that's why people need to buy

623
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:43,740
prints yes just help help out listen to the pod buy prints help us out with our hobbies I see a big

624
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:50,700
big surge in traffic now in dark room I hope so I hope so be too good to have you ever been anywhere

625
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:57,020
in the PNW so like you said you haven't been to Oregon but what about like Washington, California, Alaska

626
00:36:57,020 --> 00:37:03,660
I have I've been to California but not for our bags I haven't been to Alaska I've been to Washington

627
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:08,540
okay Washington Washington was really good I did a couple really good hospitals there

628
00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:14,860
so that was really good that was really really good hospital that had like thousands of infant or

629
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:20,060
topsy certificates left I've actually got one framed in my kitchen Washington is nice

630
00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:24,460
but I haven't done I like I don't think there's a lot in Alaska California there's a couple of

631
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:29,660
bits but not masses but I haven't been to California for a long time but I like Kelly just the

632
00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:36,940
traffic was horrible right yeah yeah but I liked Venice Beach I thought was very cool oh nice

633
00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:42,940
that's that's places I need to get to really yeah you got to come to Oregon it'll have me there's a lot

634
00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:47,900
of ghost towns here I do hear that I do hear that yeah I got I know some people that have been

635
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:52,220
organs on my back and this I want to do the Goonies you see just for the sake of it yeah well you have to

636
00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:57,500
you knew the tour yeah do the goon you still yeah and they have the museum thing now yeah with the

637
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:04,380
prison right yeah I knew it's in the old prison I'm sure good fun was there anything else that you

638
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:09,740
wanted to bring up or talk about no I mean you know I think we've covered about the spooky places the

639
00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:15,900
funeral homes but yeah no I'm back to the state soon I could do some more funeral homes

640
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:22,380
and those are my favorite the best people always say to me oh you're not sick of doing funeral

641
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:26,700
homes you've seen one you see them all absolutely not no because you've got all different kinds of

642
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:30,540
funeral homes you've got all different looks of prep tables in some of cascets some other

643
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:35,340
verses so no I never get bored of doing funeral homes at the best because we don't have them in England

644
00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:41,500
you don't we have more trees and we have like funeral care but it's like a little shop and then you've

645
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:46,060
got like a room out back but we don't have the big funeral homes like you guys have you know with like

646
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:50,860
the chapel and the cascets and the bureau room the barmer room and the cars you know what if I

647
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:55,900
watched the other night happens to know it's really young did you ever watch my girl yeah I think

648
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:00,700
that's why I like like funeral homes and stuff yeah and I remember looking watching it the other night

649
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:04,380
and I was like that's a really nice funeral home and I was like that's the cool environment machine

650
00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:09,820
you know because I've got an environment machine in my apartment and I think I've probably

651
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:13,740
where I got the interest from when I was a kid like wow that's in your homes school you know

652
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:17,500
the film she's afraid to go to the prep room I'll be straight down there you know straight up

653
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:22,540
there's nine times at 10 they're always in they're always in the basement yeah so you get into a

654
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:26,780
funeral home and the first thing I do is write prep from my goodness you the prep room look for the

655
00:39:26,780 --> 00:39:32,300
door that's got the sign saying soft only keep out for my life danger the sick couple but they use

656
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:37,500
the environment fluid and you open the door and in a split second you're going to think this is great

657
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:44,700
or not you know I did a funeral home in Michigan in Battle Creek last year and it was amazing it was

658
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:49,900
huge it was light everything was in there but somebody had taken out the environment tables I was

659
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:54,620
sorry and there was two they were like head to heads I was really disappointed because I was like

660
00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:59,340
this place would have been perfect so you know they're not all amazing some of some have got

661
00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:04,700
metal tables which they hey but they're just good fun I like them they all have drains in the floor

662
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:09,500
oh drains here but why is this when you go and they grip the table up and you're like that's right

663
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:15,180
what a bit because it's got the drain man yeah yeah but nine times out of 10 they're pretty good

664
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:19,100
they're pretty good so well you'll have to let me know if you ever do one in Oregon

665
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:25,580
absolutely we'll go and do the greenie yeah maybe there's a funeral home around there we don't know

666
00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:30,140
well it's actually I'm sure there is this is I'm sure in useful time there definitely it yeah

667
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:37,660
definitely you're gonna be posted yes definitely all right well that was so cool thanks for

668
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:43,660
reaching out and wanting to come on and talk about this stuff oh you're welcome all right you have

669
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:48,220
a good day you too have a good night thanks Cassie bye bye

670
00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:55,020
there is a statue of the mothman in point pleasant in a yearly festival celebrating the

671
00:40:55,020 --> 00:41:03,020
creature and the town here's what you've missed on the latest episode of revs beat ow in the middle

672
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:09,180
of this town is a giant metal sculpture of the mothman but looks absolutely freaky is that like

673
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:14,380
some six pack abs there I see yeah he's got a full on six pack no it looks like he's wearing wrestling

674
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:18,140
trunks too to be perfectly honest with me and it does and then does he have like duck feet

675
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:23,740
you got beautiful butterfly wings that are torn is that chest hair it really looks like either

676
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:31,500
chest hair or moth moth moth on the moth on the moth but he's got some bag berry sculpted pecs

677
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:38,780
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678
00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:46,140
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679
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:55,580
okay well do you think tarot would take your mind off the dolls a little bit I hope so

680
00:41:55,580 --> 00:42:02,860
oh so we're using my crow deck I don't know I didn't have like a deck that like screamed abandoned

681
00:42:02,860 --> 00:42:09,260
places but my crow deck seemed like I don't know I think that's I think that's a good call are there

682
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:19,980
crows in england then let us know yeah I think so does england have crows I just think it fits for me

683
00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:26,620
because like abandoned places especially this one that we've been scrolling through the photos up

684
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:32,780
there's just so much stuff yeah and crows they like to bring you presents so they do they like shiny

685
00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:38,940
things they like trash they like to eat trash so yeah so I would just hope that none of my

686
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:45,580
girlfriends would bring me any porcelain dolls and then and then we're good really really stuck on that

687
00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:53,100
um my dream is to have crows bring me like a porcelain doll eyeball because it's like little enough

688
00:42:53,100 --> 00:43:01,020
it's shiny how cool would that be oh oh I can't wait to be a forest which okay

689
00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:09,660
hey so we're thinking about abandoned places send me your send me your energy specifically right now

690
00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:20,860
cuz like I feel like that where is that would you ever go to an abandoned place I mean it depends

691
00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:28,220
on the place but yeah I don't have anything against a location or a space just based on the fact that

692
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:35,660
it's abandoned right actually kessie we kind of well you weren't there but I kind of have been to

693
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:43,260
an abandoned place with criss we went to tunnel 13 oh that's true yeah yeah you did and I should say

694
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:50,140
too I don't think we said in in Ben's interview but like don't trust fast um yeah we're just we're

695
00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:56,300
listening to his story his experiences he's his own person he does what he wants to do yeah um

696
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:03,260
we're not telling you guys to go and find places that are abandoned to like trust pass on just because

697
00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:07,900
they're cool absolutely I just want to make that absolutely no I think what I think what is the

698
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:14,300
episode two it goes all the way back to episode two it's dick road don't be a dick just go as far as

699
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:22,140
you're allowed to go um but if you do go further you can always write it to stories and do what's safe

700
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:27,420
and reasonable yeah yeah don't put yourself in danger and we definitely talked about it too in

701
00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:34,060
the interview like there can be people yeah I'm sure like all kinds of things that can present

702
00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:41,100
some challenges and some dangers so yeah you know just to be cautious of that don't be silly

703
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:46,220
and danger but yeah speaking of I probably wouldn't go to like in a band-in-place if it had like no

704
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:51,020
trust passing signs all over it because like we said it before and I I realized I sound like a

705
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:57,660
hypocritical sometime because I say I'm a sucker for rules but like rules like that that like makes sense

706
00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:04,700
you know yeah I think rules like no trust passing but makes sense to me it's not my property so like

707
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:09,180
I can respect that kind of rule if the rules don't make sense to me and they're like unnecessary

708
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:15,020
then I'm like fuck rules I hate rules yeah yeah like don't buy your own tarot deck that kind of rule

709
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:21,660
I just realized I'm always like fuck rules and then I'm like I'm a sucker for the rules and I'm like I'm

710
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:30,540
I'm a paradox well I do think you know part of being an adult and part of being you know somebody who

711
00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:39,020
exists in the world as an adult is learning to decipher what you think has value and there are

712
00:45:39,020 --> 00:45:44,140
rules that make sense to keep you safe or that you feel like makes sense to you and then there are

713
00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:53,020
rules that um you know some asshole made up so right exactly I'm glad we cleared that it's been

714
00:45:53,020 --> 00:46:01,420
bothering yeah okay so I'm gonna kind of I feel like it needs to be at the bottom of like kind of the

715
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:08,140
thick stack down here yeah like basically where your pinky is kind of pull everything out here your

716
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:14,060
other pinky oh this yeah this way there you go yeah yeah yeah okay so like the bottom of this one

717
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:20,700
or the top of this one I think the top of the other yeah this one we got woohoo we just didn't

718
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:27,020
we just get oh this is eight we got the eight of swords in reverse and this kind of definitely

719
00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:35,900
looks like an apocalypse jixie in here that would make me abandon a place wow it's like a crow tied

720
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:43,020
up in like a red scarfit looks like yeah eyes are covered there's a bunch of cool there's eight

721
00:46:43,020 --> 00:46:47,500
swords around them I can't tell if that's just like the sky like the sunset it kind of looks like

722
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:54,460
the sunset through a bunch of clouds it does yeah but it also kind of looks like a mushroom cloud like

723
00:46:54,460 --> 00:47:04,700
apocalyptic scene you know wow interesting okay it is swords in reverse okay the eight of swords

724
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:16,860
our keywords are entrapments self-unduing fear helplessness bondage denial and deception dude so

725
00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:23,740
that's that's ringing a bell for you it this is kind of crazy yeah okay it's just reminding me of

726
00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:30,140
something specific that we talked about in the interview oh okay okay like kind of creepily yeah

727
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:39,820
no this is like it's all coming back you know oh I mean I don't know I know and I'm gonna have to

728
00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:45,980
tell you okay well so one of the places that he went into was an abandoned place where

729
00:47:45,980 --> 00:47:52,700
prison uh no not a prison it was a house where a woman murdered her parents and like I think wrapped

730
00:47:52,700 --> 00:48:00,060
them up and like had them in a closet for four years oh so I'm like and you said like entrapment

731
00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:05,900
well and think about the imagery of the card bondage yeah they're all like wrapped like it's wrapped

732
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:15,660
up and it's like inside of the swords oh that's creepy okay in many decks the eight of swords

733
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:23,020
shows a person bound and blindfolded ringed by a prison of swords dude it's like making me want to

734
00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:30,300
cry feel so bad for these people I know that's awful because swords represent thoughts and beliefs

735
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:36,860
this card says you've created your own prison with your ideas and only you can free yourself okay

736
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:42,860
she lived in that house for four fucking years dude with her parents in the closet

737
00:48:43,660 --> 00:48:50,620
well maybe okay before I go to the interpretation I'm gonna read you one of the extra excerpts here

738
00:48:50,620 --> 00:49:00,700
maybe this isn't the classiest connection to make but it says the only thing we have to fear is fear

739
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:08,380
itself it's a quote by Franklin D Rose about okay I'm like okay well she wasn't afraid to have a

740
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:15,100
couple of he well that that makes me feel better because that just like reminds me of Ben just like

741
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:20,860
going to these abandoned places sometimes he goes alone yeah and he's like he says he's kind of

742
00:49:20,860 --> 00:49:27,340
scared sometimes but like not really you know so he's just very brave in these situations I feel like

743
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:32,380
yeah oh my gosh there's these ran into people too and he had to like think on his toes and like come

744
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:40,700
up with an excuse of like why he's there and yeah okay to break through the barrier you felt you

745
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:47,260
must change the way you see and do things sometimes this means rejecting social norms or going

746
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:51,980
against the status quo I mean don't do that if you're murdering people and keeping them in your

747
00:49:51,980 --> 00:50:00,940
right I think I feel like this is more of a a tie in to Ben who's obvious yeah um doing something

748
00:50:00,940 --> 00:50:09,180
very outside of maybe the beaten path oh totally and like people from his TikTok like reported him

749
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:15,500
for going into that house really yeah wow he like got reported to the cops so that's interesting

750
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:21,260
he's definitely doing things that no one else is doing yeah you also need to get focused and get

751
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:27,500
moving perhaps you have your head in the clouds the reverse eight warns you need to get your affairs

752
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:36,220
in order or the situation could worsen oh no is that like a warning to Ben I'm not sure I don't know

753
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:44,700
I don't either not sure how to take that exactly he's safe yeah well I was going to say I mean the

754
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:50,860
fact that like he's had people reporting him if he's had you know run in when he's actually

755
00:50:50,860 --> 00:50:58,140
been on site that does sort of like my first thought was oh my gosh be safe yeah please yeah in a

756
00:50:58,140 --> 00:51:03,820
reading about money this card says you may not be dealing forthrightly with a financial problem

757
00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:10,540
if you've been putting off paying your taxes for example or settling a legal matter take care

758
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:17,660
of it promptly to avoid more trouble sometimes this eight indicates bad advice or deception

759
00:51:19,820 --> 00:51:25,820
if the reading is about your job the reverse eight tells you to stop playing the victim you may feel

760
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:31,180
persecuted trapped or limited in your work but you must take responsibility for where you're at

761
00:51:31,180 --> 00:51:40,460
and do something about it inner reading about love oh boy you may feel tied to a person

762
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:47,100
perhaps because you're afraid to be alone or unwilling to support yourself which that's interesting

763
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:55,420
because she kept her parents in the home it's like yeah she very easily could have I I suppose gotten

764
00:51:55,420 --> 00:52:01,500
rid of their bodies but it's almost like she didn't want to be alone oh that's like a very

765
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:10,460
disturbed person for sure yeah absolutely well and so much of this is about your your mind almost

766
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:17,980
becoming like a it's a prison for your thoughts and so I think that kind of makes sense I mean for

767
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:23,580
someone who's in that sort of a state and I feel like you're sort of trapped in a way too because you

768
00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:29,020
obviously can't really have like people over I don't know if she was like leaving the house at all

769
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:33,340
or if she was like too scared to leave that someone would find them while she was gone I mean I really

770
00:52:33,340 --> 00:52:39,580
don't know the situation but I only imagine like yeah wow you just must feel so trapped having that

771
00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:46,300
hang over your head for four years too yeah that's a long time to live with that information

772
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:53,260
this card can mean you're not facing up to what's really going on if you've been listening to

773
00:52:53,260 --> 00:53:01,180
someone else's advice the time has come to listen to your inner guidance okay there is one

774
00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:08,540
additional extra excerpt and I'm I'll read that and then you can share any other thoughts that you

775
00:53:08,540 --> 00:53:18,460
have about yeah I have one more thought I think okay I think many of our fears are tissue paper thin

776
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:25,020
and a single courageous step would carry us clear through them wow it's interesting I feel like

777
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:30,940
we're getting like mixed messages a little bit here yeah well I think you have obviously

778
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:38,700
if we're picking up on the different energies that are related to kind of all of the different I

779
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:45,420
mean it really runs gamut but you know bends energy is going to be very different than that of

780
00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:53,100
you know the abandoned murder house yeah and like your energy to I was asking for your energy and

781
00:53:53,100 --> 00:54:01,260
that's funny it talked about like fear the only thing you fear is fear itself I'm afraid that I will be

782
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:09,020
to afraid and you probably want to be blindfolded so you don't have to see the dolls I don't want to be

783
00:54:09,020 --> 00:54:20,540
anywhere near dolls blindfolded but if you don't see them are they there yes is that a serious question

784
00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:31,100
you can feel them okay I'm done what a ridiculous person yeah okay so the last the last thought I

785
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:38,460
had was it kind of reminded me of see I'm trying to think and talk and it's not working well

786
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:45,820
it's tough it's tough like when I say we're not giving you advice to go and do these things like you

787
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:51,260
have to make up your own decision and that's basically like the last thing that you said there was like

788
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:56,620
you know don't follow other people's advice just do your own what like feels good to you basically

789
00:54:56,620 --> 00:55:05,180
that's right just say okay wow that fit that was good yeah yeah um

790
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:12,460
woo this is okay so there's another card and it was like the one at the bottom that I was kind of

791
00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:18,620
eyeballing mm-hmm when we split the deck it was that this one at the bottom yeah it's the justice card

792
00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:29,820
oh in reverse oh which is also interesting because we all you know justice it's kind of a

793
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:35,500
self-explanatory I feel like yeah I don't know if you want to peruse given the nature of our show

794
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:47,660
right interesting too it's another blind red blindfolded bird oh yeah kind of a different

795
00:55:48,860 --> 00:55:56,780
variation of binding but that premise is still there and the imagery on these cards do like look like

796
00:55:56,780 --> 00:56:03,500
abandoned places kind of a look that is yeah really interesting they do like with peeling wallpaper

797
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:09,260
and paint and stuff is what that one looks like keywords are rectification decision

798
00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:16,140
binding balance and legal matters which I think all speaks for itself yeah um okay

799
00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:23,820
the justice card often depicts a female figure robed and crowned or sometimes armoured

800
00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:32,860
she holds a sword symbol of the air element and the mind in one hand and in the other a set of scales

801
00:56:32,860 --> 00:56:39,820
oh she's holding a sword and we got swords for the other card we did yeah in some deck she appears

802
00:56:39,820 --> 00:56:46,940
nude with arms outstretched in a balanced position or she stands between a large set of scales while

803
00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:55,100
holding a smaller set this justice isn't blind or blindfolded however her eyes are open

804
00:56:55,100 --> 00:57:03,580
suggesting divine justice is that work here rather than the laws of humankind to me I read that

805
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:10,220
almost as like somebody who gets away with that for four years and then I don't know what the

806
00:57:10,220 --> 00:57:17,820
circumstances were of the discovery and her capture subsequently but yeah me either um that almost

807
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:26,220
seems like there's like divine intervention in putting a stop to that yeah interesting the justice

808
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:31,660
card can represent an actual legal matter or someone who works in the judicial system

809
00:57:31,660 --> 00:57:38,460
whatever the situation you must weigh many factors in order to make a reasoned decision

810
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:46,780
hmm which honestly that kind of makes me think um we were sort of speculating wildly about you

811
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:52,540
know the mental health of someone who would remain in their home with two people that they have

812
00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:59,980
killed um and worse yet their own parents but that makes me think of like you have to sort of take

813
00:57:59,980 --> 00:58:06,060
into account maybe the mental health of someone who committed this crime as you think about

814
00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:13,580
maybe sentencing them that is true yeah yeah justice reversed indicates delays in legal matters

815
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:20,140
or unfairness in some other situation there was certainly a delay a little bit that's exactly

816
00:58:20,140 --> 00:58:26,860
where my mind went if you're the person in power you may be unduly severe in meeting out punishment

817
00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:34,860
if you're in the powerless position you may feel angry or resentful at being treated unfairly wow

818
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:41,020
your equilibrium is out of whack and you may swing from one extreme to the other that almost makes me

819
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:49,100
think of like a apparent child relationship right because yeah how many times has like an angry

820
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:54,940
kid or teenager said that's not fair yeah does that's kind of the vibe it's giving me

821
00:58:54,940 --> 00:59:01,660
in reading about money you may encounter a loss in a legal matter or feel a financial decision

822
00:59:01,660 --> 00:59:08,300
isn't fair oh yeah now I want to look more into this story and see like what happened like I know

823
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:14,860
how like did anything come out in the courts of like why oh my god so I mean there's got to be more

824
00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:20,300
information about this case yeah perhaps you'll be required to make restitution to someone

825
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:27,260
this card can also represent delays or complications in receiving money that's due to you

826
00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:33,980
maybe life and sure and I don't think she's gonna get that payment no I don't think so not so much

827
00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:39,020
but I wonder if like she was thinking if they're missing long enough oh yeah of course like kind of

828
00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:45,420
the one we talked about with the missing family was that it were they had a certain amount of time

829
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:52,540
to collect yeah we're just pretty typical um obviously it you know I have no idea what the what the

830
00:59:52,540 --> 00:59:59,660
terms and conditions are over in England but here in Oregon even dating back to that case from

831
00:59:59,660 --> 01:00:08,300
you know the late fifties um it was like seven years so yeah huh if the reading is about your job

832
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:13,820
justice reversed can signify an imbalance in your workplace or a lack of cooperation

833
01:00:13,820 --> 01:00:21,260
or this card may point oh may mean you have to account for an action or mistake

834
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:27,340
in some cases it may point to a legal issue involving the organization you work for

835
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:34,300
interesting interesting inner reading about love you may feel a relationship lacks balance

836
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:40,060
one of you has more power or control than the other sometimes this card indicates having to

837
01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:51,660
answer for an indiscretion or wrongful action yeah I should say so no notes yeah

838
01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:57,740
wow I think we found a lot of good connections with that that's crazy yeah I'm glad I remembered

839
01:00:57,740 --> 01:01:03,500
to pull that card out from the end because I was thinking about it while you were picking the other

840
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:11,260
sign I'm like yeah I like both sides for this yeah yeah there's definitely some really interesting

841
01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:18,620
parallels and like like literally just the connection between the two cards like the red ribbon

842
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:27,580
blindfold and the sword thing like yeah have a creepy birthday we'll see you next Tuesday

843
01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:36,060
unless you get lost in an abandoned place forever and ever or there's a porcelain doll outside your door

844
01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:51,340
I like how he did a high pitched and I said no yeah housekeeping oh my god we're here to

845
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:59,660
bring your brain okay well I it turns out I have a thing so I gotta my ubers here

846
01:01:59,660 --> 01:02:08,620
oh my god man I have to have Chris log me back into the cameras because I'm not going to build go

847
01:02:08,620 --> 01:02:18,860
to my door either oh no because what if there's a doll at my door I'm so sorry there's not going to

848
01:02:18,860 --> 01:02:22,860
be a doll at your door okay. (pnwhauntsandhomicides.com)