Expelling Evil: A Look into Modern-Day Exorcisms

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Maybe this demon does have a foot fetish.

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There's a lot of foot.

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Yeah, I feel like it's foot fetish.

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Or maybe it's a little like a really small demon and all it can reach is the feet.

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That could be.

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That could be.

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I feel like it's more salacious if we think of it as a foot fetish demon.

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Just like that I'm willing to entertain either.

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I'm picturing it like when the Grinch slithers around the floor.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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A thousand percent.

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A thousand percent.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Hello.

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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides, where we

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chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all kinds of spooky creepy weird shit in the

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Pacific Northwest that we do.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight

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into our topic for the day.

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We do and occasionally forget to say PNW if you're nasty.

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I know.

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I said it when I recorded with Cristina.

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I was like, Oh, I have to do this because otherwise Cassie will be so old, mild.

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I'm pale straight now.

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PNW.

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If you are nasty.

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Yeah.

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Um, it's my episode.

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It is.

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I know I was like, um, what?

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Which is why we're drinking blood.

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My lights look like fire.

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They do.

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Yeah.

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And I'm wearing this beautiful shirt.

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"Satan loves you for who you are."

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So true, right?

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Cute.

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So this recording actually got delayed because a little bit.

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Someone likes to get sick a lot during the winter.

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I mean, back to back.

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Yeah.

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That was wild.

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Me and system goes down and it's just all shit breaks loose.

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But getting better, my lips are coming back online.

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They were very chapped.

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We've been talking about the nipple cream I have to use on my lips.

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Yeah.

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That's a new one for me.

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I got to say it took a lot of googling.

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But apparently mama nursing nipple cream because their little ninnies get chapped from

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the baby suckles or whatever happens.

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I can only imagine.

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Ouch.

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Sorry, if that's ever happened to you.

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Yeah.

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Like deeply sorry.

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But anyway, the nipple cream, it's made from like sheep fat or some shit.

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Yeah.

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And it works like almost overnight.

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It was crazy.

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Yeah, I would imagine.

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So if you're if you're having chappy lippy troubles, Lanolin cream, I think it's called

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something like that.

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Oh, okay.

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That's right.

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Anyway, the point of this conversation was we were supposed to do this episode.

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We were going to do it remote because I was house sitting.

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Yeah.

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And I wouldn't have had all the stuff that I brought with me today because I just I don't

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know.

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I wasn't thinking about it or I didn't want to like pack it all with me.

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So I brought a bunch of fun stuff today.

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And I don't know.

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I'm kind of glad it got postponed a little bit.

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It worked out.

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Things worked out.

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One of the things you can't really tell what it is, but you'll get to see it in the

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alter later.

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This is my Taylor Swift candle.

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I forget what are those called?

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It's like a...

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There's a name for that? Prayer candles.

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I think something like that.

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Yeah, I think you're right.

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Yeah.

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So she's got a cross.

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She's like kind of like mother Teresa style.

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Is that what it is or Mary Mary?

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That's a good thing.

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Yeah, mother Mary or I mean, you know, mother's true.

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Some of my bad.

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I love one.

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Yeah, turns out we probably wouldn't put her own one of those candles.

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I didn't know.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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And I'm not super familiar with it.

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So I wouldn't either.

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I'm not even going to go there.

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I heard it in passing and I was like, I don't want to know anymore.

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Yeah, shut down.

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Really ruining my day.

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Oh, man.

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Anyway, so what are we talking about today?

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I don't know.

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This topic is something that's like always totally fascinated me.

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But I don't necessarily believe in it.

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Okay.

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So I know some of you might and that's totally valid and totally fine and you maybe she's

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maintaining healthy skepticism.

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Okay.

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It's just my personal.

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Yeah.

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My personal shit.

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And I'll kind of explain it kind of going through some of this stuff.

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All right.

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But if you're kind of spooked out by the D word demon, not dick.

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Okay.

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Some people.

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Some people spooked out by dicks, which is valid.

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That's yeah, also valid.

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Yeah.

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So if you want to listen, take whatever protective measures you want, you know, wrap it before

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you tap it.

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Nobody if you want to have like protective crystals around you or just maybe set your intentions.

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We'll set intentions right now.

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Just in case nothing evil is allowed in this room.

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Nothing is allowed to stay and fuck with us.

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Don't touch her.

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You can touch me all you want.

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But yeah, I think I need to go shopping.

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What kind of crystal did you draw?

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This is just the one that I keep on the desk because it's one of the poem stone style.

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And it's small.

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So it's easy for me to just have it within arm's reach.

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So we're safe.

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We're protected.

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Nothing is allowed to bother us.

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Just on putting my foot down right now.

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Okay.

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And that's how it works.

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That's how you do it.

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All right.

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You need to skip some of this stuff, you know, feel free.

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Okay.

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Go listen to another episode or wait for one of Caitlyn's because those aren't evil at all.

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Yeah.

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And then, you know, on the next one of mine, we'll talk about how, you know, putting

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your foot down famously is a great way to lose a foot.

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I guess we'll see.

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What?

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I'm like, oh, putting your foot down.

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That's like, those are straw, those are fighting words.

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Did I pick up on some vibes?

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I don't know.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I'm wearing my anti-possession bracelet.

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Well, it's my Supernatural bracelet with the little anti-possession charm.

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It says jerk on it.

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Brittany has the one that says bitch.

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I love it.

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And then I also have that tattooed on my body on my ribs.

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So I can never be possessed by a demon.

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Ouch.

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I think Caitlyn, you need to get one.

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And I think it would make you feel a lot safer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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She doesn't have tattoos.

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I didn't know.

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Well, why are we talking about demons today?

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Why did I bring up possession?

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I don't know.

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Probably the same reason you brought up needles.

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I brought up needles.

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Well tattoos...

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Oh, okay.

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I was like, needles.

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Ew, I don't like those.

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Unless they're putting ink into my skin.

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Yeah.

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And then they're fine.

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No, that sounds way better.

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Well, today we're going to talk about exorcism.

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Oh.

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Oh, this is one of my no-no-button.

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It's, you know, I think you'll feel a lot better about this when I finish.

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Okay.

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I think you will.

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Yeah.

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Famously I always feel better after Cassie's episodes.

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I don't know.

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I feel like I try to talk about things in a logical way and I don't try to just scare the

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poop out of people.

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I try to.

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Exactly.

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I scare you and also give you valid things that also could be happening.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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No.

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I don't know if you're a fall.

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It's, you know, just a natural state of being for me.

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I know.

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I try to be gentle with you, but I just can't all the time.

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We got to go down this exorcism path.

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Exorcism escalator, if you will.

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Oh.

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So exorcism is the expulsion or attempted expulsion of a supposed evil spirit from a person,

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place or object.

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Okay.

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So we've talked about ways you can kind of clear out bad energy with smoke, crystals,

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sound and words.

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Like I just did.

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I put my foot down and said, no, you can't.

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Exorcisms are basically just in advanced form of cleansing in a very, like kind of cleansing

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a very intense negative energy or a demon as it's thought of.

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Yeah.

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Thinking about it that way makes it a little bit less intimidating.

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Right?

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That's what I thought.

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Just like really cleansing the shit out of something, you know, clenching the life of

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a god.

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Study.com defines demon as quote, a supernatural being with often malevolent or evil intentions.

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They are usually described as trying to influence humans away from good and direct them towards

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evil.

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Oh, which is like we'll talk about it a little later, but what is evil?

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You know, a lot of people's definition of evil is very different.

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It's true, but I feel like for most of us, it's sort of like porn, you know, like they

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said in like, I think it was a congressional hearing.

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You know it when you see it.

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You know, evil when you see it.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I was like, porn's not evil unless it's the evil kind.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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But you'll know it when you see it.

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Maybe.

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But really it definitely depends on who you are and what your beliefs are.

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So.

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My definition of things that are evil or things that are good are other people's definition

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of things that are evil.

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So two things can be true.

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Oh, yeah.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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I have some fighting words for some people later on.

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So the earliest known axiocisms took place in Mesopotamia.

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So literally since the beginning of civilization.

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The cradle.

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We've been trying to tell evil to get fucked.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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When Christianity came around, anyone who believed anything different like paganism was

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evil and therefore must be exercised.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Not always the most open-minded of folk.

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No.

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So like paganism, they're just minding their own business or I mean, pagans were just

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minding their own business and all of a sudden this new religion comes around and they're

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being told that they are evil now.

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So who's definition of evil is right?

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Hard to say.

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I feel like when you're the new guy on the block though, probably don't go and knock on

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your neighbor's doors and be like, you're evil.

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You know, you're supposed to like bring over a magic cookies or something.

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That's a nice thing to do that.

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They just try to steal it all for themselves and wipe it all clean.

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Yeah.

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Not a strong strategy.

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I feel like it worked.

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It worked.

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It worked for the time and it worked for a long time, but it's coming back and it's going

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to bite you guys in the ass.

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Karma.

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Now I see why T-Swift is here.

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Karma.

283
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Yeah.

284
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I love that song.

285
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We should start playing it.

286
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I'm putting it all together, you guys.

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It just all connects.

288
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That wasn't even purposeful, you know?

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Even last minute, just was scanning my room for anything else to bring and my eyes landed

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on the T-Swift.

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Keep prayer candle and I was like, holy shit, that's perfect.

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Literally holy shit.

293
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Yeah.

294
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That's perfect.

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Listen, if anybody was going to give me an exorcism, if Taylor Swift was involved, I

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do think I would feel better than not.

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Taylor, please exercise my demons.

298
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Yeah.

299
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So that's like a line from one of our newer songs.

300
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All right.

301
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She might be an exorcist.

302
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You might be on to some shit, you guys.

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How all right?

304
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Maybe we need to make some tin foil hat.

305
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What is it on our vigilante shit?

306
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Oh, yeah.

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All right, we'll keep going.

308
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The rituals typically performed by trained professionals of an organized religion.

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And I'm sure most of us think like Christian or Catholic, but many other religions utilize

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this practice as well.

311
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Like Bishop Cloud, who used to live in Medford, Oregon of the time I was researching this or

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reading the research for this.

313
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I don't know if he still lives there or not.

314
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Okay.

315
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Who has been an exorcist for over 20 years?

316
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Okay.

317
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He started as a priest with the Anglican Church, which is a branch of Christianity for 10

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years before being kicked out for carrying out exorcisms without permission from the church.

319
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Yeah.

320
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They do want you to ask permission, but they will typically say no.

321
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Yeah.

322
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Yeah.

323
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It's like very uncommon to actually go through with all of this.

324
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Yes.

325
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Yeah.

326
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I hear they basically say no to everybody.

327
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Yeah.

328
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Yeah.

329
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Unless they don't.

330
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And they nail people to floors and watch them bleed out.

331
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That's fine.

332
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We're not going to go totally deep down on the really, really bad exorcisms.

333
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We're not going there today.

334
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But I just touched on it.

335
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That's what happened.

336
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I don't like it.

337
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This is pretty tame.

338
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Okay.

339
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Now, he's joined up with the old Catholics who are actually not a part of the Roman Catholic

340
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Church.

341
00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,760
Oh.

342
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Yeah.

343
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Cloud is now an archbishop for Advent International's Order of Exorcists and an affiliated

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member of the Sacred Order of St. Michael and the Archangels Order of Exorcists.

345
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A lot of words.

346
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It's a lot of a lot of things, which none of them are actually associated with, you know,

347
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the Catholic Church.

348
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The Catholic Church.

349
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Like as we think of it.

350
00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,280
Exactly.

351
00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,280
Yeah.

352
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It's like its own.

353
00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,280
The Pope's like nah.

354
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,280
It's still like an organized religion.

355
00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,280
It's just separate.

356
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Yes.

357
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Yeah.

358
00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,280
Okay.

359
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Exactly.

360
00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,280
The Pope was like nah.

361
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No.

362
00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,800
So here is someone who is part of an organized religion, but not an official member of the

363
00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,480
big official, I said official a bunch of times.

364
00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160
I called it the big official Catholic Papa Bear.

365
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,160
Papa Bear?

366
00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,120
I mean, it's Pope-a bear.

367
00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,120
Yeah.

368
00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,800
It's like part of like the same umbrella, but it's like almost like when you look at a family

369
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tree and like you have your mom's side, your dad's side, like they're over there, you

370
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know, and the Pope's over here.

371
00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,800
Exactly.

372
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Yeah.

373
00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,800
And he's like, I don't know who you are.

374
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I don't know.

375
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,800
I don't know her.

376
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,800
I'm a fuck with that.

377
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,800
Yeah.

378
00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,240
But Cloud believes his life's calling is relieving people from torment of demonic possession.

379
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,360
I mean, I guess it's crazy job.

380
00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,280
Somebody's got to do it, maybe.

381
00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,280
Yeah.

382
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I guess.

383
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,280
I don't know.

384
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I guess it's what he's really called to.

385
00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,560
Okay.

386
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,680
And he is extremely serious about his work saying quote, I am here to kick ass and take

387
00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,680
names.

388
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I am there as a soldier.

389
00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800
I am going into battle.

390
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Okay.

391
00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,560
So he's he really believes he's he's on it.

392
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And he thinks he's helping people.

393
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,800
Which is on one, you know, that's a good thing.

394
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Yeah.

395
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280
Maybe he does not charge for the service, thankfully.

396
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So at least there is this thing where he doesn't charge for it.

397
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,240
He is just trying to help you.

398
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,280
Usually with stuff like this, I've heard it's like donation based.

399
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,200
Oh, almost like, you know, you don't have to tip your waiter, but everybody knows you

400
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,200
should.

401
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,640
But I don't know.

402
00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:37,640
I don't either.

403
00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,160
Nothing about that uses tips.

404
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,680
Maybe nothing was mentioned in any of the stuff I research.

405
00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,880
So I really couldn't answer that question for you.

406
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,920
But he was set down this path.

407
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,440
Perhaps his young is four when he started to see shadow people.

408
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,440
Whoa.

409
00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,120
So he's been seeing shit since he was little.

410
00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,440
So that makes sense that if you have seen things that you aren't sure about or that

411
00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,120
you think are paranormal, supernatural, that you might be set down this path.

412
00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,120
Yeah.

413
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,920
Especially if you think it's evil.

414
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,920
Definitely.

415
00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,280
Have I ever told you the story about when I saw someone?

416
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,600
What?

417
00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,200
What are you talking about when I was like a little kid?

418
00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,200
You did?

419
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,200
Yes.

420
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,200
Okay.

421
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,440
So I was listening to, ‘And That's Why We Drink' the other day.

422
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:33,600
And Christine was talking about how Leona, her daughter, I think, is like three now.

423
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:39,000
And she turned to her and she had been like sitting there at the table coloring.

424
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,600
And Christine was like, I don't know, just doing something around the house.

425
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,000
And Leona says, where is that lady going?

426
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,960
Never have kids.

427
00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:55,720
And she was like, I thought maybe she was seeing something else.

428
00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,000
I was misunderstanding how she had phrased the question.

429
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,200
I thought she had said, where is that lady coming from?

430
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,200
Or something?

431
00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:10,240
And maybe she couldn't quite articulate what she was trying to ask.

432
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,760
But no, her daughter was like, oh yeah.

433
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,560
Like she's the wife.

434
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,360
It's like my friend.

435
00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,000
That's his wife.

436
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,800
And she was like your friend.

437
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,120
So she goes into a whole thing where she was basically saying, okay, well, you guys can

438
00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:28,120
be friends.

439
00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:37,760
But if he ever makes you unhappy, it's okay to tell him and you need to tell me, and just

440
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,160
basically walking her child, just trying not to traumatize her.

441
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,680
By being like, oh, that's not real.

442
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,680
Or you know, you know, you know, you know, validating basically.

443
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,240
Because that's a big thing.

444
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,960
Either like being too scared, like making it a scary thing or making it just like invalid.

445
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,960
Exactly.

446
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,400
And she's too young probably to understand.

447
00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:04,880
And Christine was talking about how she, I think it was a medium friend of hers that said,

448
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,960
oh, she's not really like awake yet.

449
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:13,680
She doesn't really realize what, like some of what she's seeing or whatever, but like she

450
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,880
will in like a few years or something.

451
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,200
And I was like, oh my god.

452
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:26,600
And it reminded me of this time where at our apartment, I had a little like loft bedroom

453
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,480
and my brother had his room downstairs next to my parents room.

454
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,960
And I remember looking over at my mom and I was like, mom, who's that guy?

455
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,920
And she, she freaked because she was like, what guy?

456
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,800
Because she saw me like looking down the hallway towards my brother's room.

457
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,800
Oh.

458
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,480
Going, who's that guy?

459
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,040
Oh, my god.

460
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,560
And she was like, what guy?

461
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:59,920
And I described I was like, well, he was wearing, I think it was a red shirt and blue shorts.

462
00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:06,560
Like I still have like a vestige of a visual memory of seeing this.

463
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:12,360
And she was like, of course, she like goes and checks and she's like, there's no one here.

464
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,680
Like, did you see someone outside?

465
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680
Or, you know what I mean?

466
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,680
Wow.

467
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,320
That's really, really.

468
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,960
It freaked me out to remember that because I haven't thought about that in a long time.

469
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,960
Geez.

470
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,960
Hold on on us.

471
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,520
You got a spooky story all along.

472
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,520
Anna.

473
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,520
Yeah.

474
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,120
No, I was like, I honestly, when I thought about it the other day, I was like, oh, I should

475
00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:40,920
tell Cassie about that and like, talk about how I remembered that.

476
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,920
Yeah.

477
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,240
Oh, I'm sure I've already told her this story.

478
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,240
I don't think so.

479
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240
Oh, positive.

480
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,760
He's almost said nothing.

481
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,760
Like at all.

482
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,880
I was like, oh, no, I've totally told her this story.

483
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,880
You didn't.

484
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,720
I don't know that I know of anyway unless I forgot.

485
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,200
But it's like it was the first time I was hearing it.

486
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,200
I'm squeezing.

487
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,200
I forgot to bring.

488
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,520
I have this little squish ball.

489
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,520
This is Rebecca.

490
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,200
She's a double like being called Becca, by the way.

491
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,200
She's not Becca.

492
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,200
It's Rebecca.

493
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,200
Okay.

494
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,200
Rebecca.

495
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,200
Okay.

496
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,200
Okay.

497
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,200
He saw shadow people.

498
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,200
Okay.

499
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,480
So that kind of set the creepy shit that cloud saw as a child kind of set him down this exorcism

500
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,480
path.

501
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,880
But that's not his only path.

502
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,880
Okay.

503
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,400
Cloud is also a therapist and drug and alcohol counselor.

504
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:36,720
So he feels like this helps him be able to see the difference between a possession by something

505
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,760
evil or a drug or mental health crisis.

506
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,760
Interesting.

507
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,120
I could see that.

508
00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:47,360
Now I have a whole other host of concerns though.

509
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:48,360
Me too.

510
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,360
Okay.

511
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,360
Great.

512
00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:51,360
Great.

513
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,160
Glad we're on the same page with that.

514
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:59,400
But I think that it is kind of a good thing to have that background to be able to kind of

515
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,160
assess the situation.

516
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,640
Openness maybe, but it's concerning.

517
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,640
I have.

518
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,640
Okay.

519
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,640
I'm not.

520
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,640
I'm going to let you finish.

521
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,640
Why is it concerning to you?

522
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,240
Um, just because I do think that somebody like who is administering for all intents and

523
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:21,800
purposes mental health or, um, you know, I don't know what his certification specifically

524
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:31,080
is, but like that is could very, very well be like truly medical care to to some degree.

525
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:37,200
It's concerning that like that might potentially be tied in.

526
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:44,280
I just think about the consequences of somebody who thinks they've diagnosed, um, one thing

527
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,320
when it might might be utterly unrelated.

528
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,320
I don't know.

529
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,320
I'm spiraling hair.

530
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,320
I don't know.

531
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,320
I don't.

532
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,760
Obviously, I don't know his circumstances and like what he does in his job or whatever.

533
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,520
I was kind of under the impression that he has a stage job and it's totally stopped.

534
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,960
And he doesn't try to like talk to those people about getting exercise.

535
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,600
Like people come to his website and contact him for exorcism.

536
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Yeah.

537
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,600
And then he kind of uses the therapy and drug and alcohol counseling to those are like

538
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,120
assess that situation.

539
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,120
Yeah.

540
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,120
They're like, I'm part metalized.

541
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,760
I assume that's my that's my concern.

542
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,760
Yes.

543
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,080
Hopefully those are very compartmentalized because that.

544
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,080
Yeah.

545
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,800
That has the potential to create a lot of a lot of trauma.

546
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Yeah.

547
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,800
And specifically like, you know, for people that maybe already have religious trauma.

548
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,800
Exactly.

549
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Yeah.

550
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,280
So I mean, who I on I certainly don't know for sure.

551
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,040
And I'm not like advocating for this dude or whatever.

552
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,320
I mean, you'll see as we go along here.

553
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,760
But yeah, I don't know.

554
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,080
Hopefully that's not the case because I can't imagine he would be like keeping a job.

555
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,080
Yeah.

556
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,080
And that's what's happening.

557
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080
So one would help.

558
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,920
Obviously a big sign that something is paranormal is that if other people are witnessing

559
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,000
and experiencing the same kind of like weird things you are.

560
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Right.

561
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,560
Like that we talked about it before the corroboration.

562
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Yeah.

563
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,560
corroboration.

564
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Yeah.

565
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,080
So that's kind of one of the things he looks for as well as he tries to see if anyone else

566
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,480
in the house or anyone else around this person is also experiencing.

567
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Yeah.

568
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,480
Shit.

569
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:39,640
I think in any instance where I've heard about like an exorcism or a paranormal investigation,

570
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:46,800
anybody that is generally respected in their, you know, respective field, they kind of

571
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,320
approach it very much in the same manner that a scientist would.

572
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320
It's kind of that scientific method.

573
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,320
Right.

574
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Yeah.

575
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,320
At least they're not, they're, they're trying.

576
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840
They're not like fully just like your possess straight away.

577
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,840
Right.

578
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,880
I feel like you have to explore the possibility of, I mean, we talk about it with true crime

579
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,880
investigations.

580
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,880
Yeah.

581
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,880
You can't assume and try to make evidence fit.

582
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,880
Exactly.

583
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,800
You have to be open to this could be anything, you know, to some degree, particularly mental

584
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,800
health.

585
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,800
Yeah.

586
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,400
What would one experience during a possession situation?

587
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,560
You wonder.

588
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560
I know.

589
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,560
I don't.

590
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,480
Well, this is probably going to sound a little familiar to some of you because it's in

591
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,880
like all the movies.

592
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,880
So.

593
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,880
Okay.

594
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,840
And this is something that Cloud said in this interview.

595
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,800
So these are from him too.

596
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,800
Okay.

597
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,520
Number one is infestation.

598
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920
It feels like a standard haunting.

599
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:58,520
You might feel cold spots in your house here mildly alarming things like knocking or scratching

600
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,360
or footsteps or voices.

601
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:08,320
You might see an apparition smell random smells like one of the things is sulfur.

602
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,320
Right.

603
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Right.

604
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,320
The diamon.

605
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,640
If no known origin or cause, it's not like a gas leak or something.

606
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,840
Please make sure if you're selling sulfur that you look for your gas leak.

607
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:26,840
You really have to explore like all of those like physical and verifiable possibilities.

608
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,840
Yep.

609
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,680
We'll keep drilling that in.

610
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,680
Yes.

611
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,240
You also might witness objects moving on their own.

612
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,280
Just typical haunting stuff.

613
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,480
So typical.

614
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,880
So typical.

615
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:46,320
Number two is oppression where things start to get a little more intense with sleep problems,

616
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,800
nightmares, illness, anxiety, anger or depression.

617
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Oh, so this kind of just like happens.

618
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,800
I feel like if your house is haunted like obviously you're going to be stressed out with

619
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,800
this.

620
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,960
It feels like it's just very intense feelings with pretty much no cause.

621
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,600
I guess other than the weird haunting shit you're experiencing.

622
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Right.

623
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,440
Everybody's like, I don't get why you're so sad.

624
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Illness too is a big one just like being ill for no reason.

625
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,920
Well, I think especially if you are having issues with sleep and stress, definitely like

626
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,680
that just takes such a toll on your immune system.

627
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Oh, yeah, totally.

628
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,680
Yeah.

629
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,000
I feel like it all just goes together too.

630
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,880
Just becomes kind of a vicious cycle.

631
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
I would think.

632
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,520
And it might also start to affect your relationships and your work.

633
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,840
Your things in your life.

634
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
So yeah, it starts to suck.

635
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:50,560
And then number three is finally the possession stage where I feel like it's not exactly

636
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,800
like it is in the movies.

637
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,000
It's not this crazy like demon who's like speaking through you and yeah, like different

638
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,040
voices are coming out and you're like breaking bones and walking backwards.

639
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440
Everybody can tell if something that dramatic.

640
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Yeah.

641
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,320
I feel like he says it's very rare for it to even get to the possession phase.

642
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,560
I would think so.

643
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:19,400
I feel like just the crazy movie possession phase isn't really like a super real real thing.

644
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,400
That makes sense.

645
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,400
Yeah.

646
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Things might have happened a couple of times in the past where you know, he knows if it was

647
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,040
real or not.

648
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:33,640
If it was just someone going through a mental health crisis and having an exact exacerbated

649
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,640
exacerbated.

650
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,640
Is that a raided?

651
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,640
Yeah.

652
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640
Is that a raided?

653
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,640
Is that a sad?

654
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,640
I know words.

655
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:46,360
I'm drinking the split pea soup from the exorcism.

656
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,360
That little girl throws up out of her mouth.

657
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,360
Gross.

658
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,080
I'm not a fan.

659
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,080
It's actually matcha.

660
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,080
It's delicious.

661
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Yeah.

662
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Matcha is okay.

663
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Vomited split pea soup.

664
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,920
I can't know.

665
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,240
I love split pea soup.

666
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,040
I was literally just thinking about it the other day that I wanted some.

667
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,200
It was probably while I was writing this and I was like, it was split pea soup sounds

668
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,200
great.

669
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Yeah.

670
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,360
But now that you've described it as like that scene from the exorcist.

671
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,360
It's calm.

672
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,360
Yeah.

673
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,360
Basically.

674
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,360
Yeah.

675
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:17,360
No, thank you.

676
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,240
Also in all of the articles and things I found about Cloud, they just refer to him as

677
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Bishop.

678
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,920
Even though it said earlier, he was an archbishop.

679
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760
But everything's just called him Bishop Cloud.

680
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,840
I'm not really sure.

681
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,280
I don't know religious things.

682
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,320
And yeah, I mean, the nomenclature is, I don't, I'm just not familiar enough to be anything

683
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,320
but dangerous.

684
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,320
I mean either.

685
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,920
So I'll just refer to him as Bishop Cloud.

686
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480
I'm not trying to be like disrespectful.

687
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800
That's just what they refer to him as in all of the things.

688
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,160
So yeah, I feel like if that's how he's typically referred to anything you find.

689
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,960
I mean, also, I think it's cool.

690
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,960
It's cool.

691
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760
He's called Cloud because I'm like heaven.

692
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Cloud.

693
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,760
You think you like the clouds.

694
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,960
It does feel like a little bit.

695
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:00,960
It's like a little crunchy.

696
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Yeah.

697
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,960
It's a little woo-woo.

698
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,960
Yeah.

699
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,960
Bishop Cloud.

700
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Bishop Cloud.

701
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:15,600
So during Bishop Cloud's exorcisms, one to three times a month, which I feel like that seems

702
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,600
like a lot.

703
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,600
It's kind of a lot, right?

704
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Yeah, I thought he said these words not common.

705
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Well, no.

706
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Like it's not common to get to like the possession phase.

707
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,280
I know.

708
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,240
But you have to be in the possession phase, right?

709
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,240
No.

710
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,240
No, you don't have to.

711
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,240
You can have an exorcism even if you're not possessed.

712
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Yeah, because you're trying to get ahead of it, right?

713
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960
You're trying to, it's basically cleansing.

714
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Okay.

715
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Okay.

716
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,960
Just like an extreme form.

717
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,840
So you can do it if a possession is starting, I guess, at any phase of a, yeah, I don't

718
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,840
know.

719
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,840
That's interesting.

720
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,840
This entry is full blown.

721
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,840
It's probably better to get it "nip it in the butt."

722
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,640
As I like to say.

723
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Which always just makes me picture someone being bitten in the butt.

724
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,480
I like to bite booty, booty, booty.

725
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,240
So he normally has to be quite forceful with the evil entities, but some put up way more

726
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280
of a fight than others.

727
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:18,720
So some, he says like some of them, he just has to be like really forceful with, and that's

728
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,400
like with his words with his prayer.

729
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,120
He doesn't ever like tie people up and like do the crazy, the crazy stuff, you know?

730
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Yeah.

731
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240
So it's full with his like words and his gotcha.

732
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,240
What do I try to say?

733
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,240
His like conviction.

734
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Yeah.

735
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,480
I mean, it's his demeanor.

736
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Yeah.

737
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,800
I feel like his mannerisms.

738
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Yeah.

739
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,560
Going to war with his words.

740
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Yeah.

741
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:49,320
In 2018, author Santi of 'An Excellent Day for an Exorcism' on PortlandMercury.com went with

742
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Bishop Cloud to witness his work in the Bethany area outside of Portland.

743
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Oh.

744
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Yeah.

745
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Okay.

746
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Right.

747
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Right.

748
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,120
When was this?

749
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,120
2018.

750
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,120
Okay.

751
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,840
A man known as Stan, which I don't think that's his real name.

752
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,120
I think they made a name for the article.

753
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,880
Felt an overall uneasy presence inside his home and was having what sounds like sleep paralysis

754
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,880
attacks.

755
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,880
No.

756
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Yeah.

757
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,360
He'd feel like he was being held down, but couldn't see what was doing it.

758
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:35,200
He was also being unconcentrally touched, was like, don't do that.

759
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,880
No, demons.

760
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,880
You have my consent.

761
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Come touch.

762
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Oh my God.

763
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,880
I really hate that.

764
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,120
I really, really hate that.

765
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,960
He was experiencing something unseen, pulling his hair or sometimes, gnawing on his feet.

766
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,720
No.

767
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Which totally reminds me of the movie Talk to Me.

768
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,360
There you haven't seen it.

769
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,360
It's a possession movie.

770
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Oh, okay.

771
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,160
I was like, this doesn't sound familiar.

772
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,160
I do have a clip.

773
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,480
No, thank you.

774
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520
You don't want to see the clip?

775
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,960
I feel like I'm good.

776
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,960
There's a foot, but second, nine foot, fetish demon.

777
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Like a nine foot fetish demon.

778
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Yeah.

779
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640
It was like a creepy old lady.

780
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:25,360
I will link the video and I, it's, I'll put the timestamp of where it starts.

781
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,000
If anyone is curious, it's a really good movie though.

782
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Talk to me.

783
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,000
My friend, Katelyn, and I watched it.

784
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Not this Caitlyn.

785
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Oh, yeah.

786
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Different Katelyn.

787
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,800
I always do that every time because your names are spelled different.

788
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,800
So you're different.

789
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Yeah, completely different name.

790
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,040
Totally different people.

791
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040
But for real, so you guys know.

792
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Yeah.

793
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040
So God, knowing on it.

794
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,040
I don't like that.

795
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,040
I am not.

796
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,480
No, you're like having sleep paralysis too.

797
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,120
That's just awful.

798
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Poor Stan.

799
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,800
One night, Stan was feeling something grabbing and clawing at his toes.

800
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,520
And all of a sudden, I had a terrifying vision and horrifying, intrusive thoughts.

801
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320
He didn't give the details about any of this.

802
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,640
I assume because they were really disturbing to him.

803
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
I don't think he wanted to really talk about it.

804
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,240
Which - same girl.

805
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Maybe trigger warning here.

806
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,440
I had a really terrible intrusive thought recently.

807
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,880
So if you're kind of squeamish about sharp objects, maybe skip four.

808
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,280
But you have to hear this.

809
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,320
I think I already told you this.

810
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880
I had the worst intrusive thought the other night.

811
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,360
It was probably a month ago.

812
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,640
And I was just laying in bed trying to sleep, just minding my own business, just clearing

813
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,280
your mind, and just relaxing.

814
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,760
And all of a sudden, I was like, what if I bit into a razor that was hidden in my food?

815
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,720
And I felt it in my mouth, like going to the roof of my mouth.

816
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Why?

817
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,200
I know exactly why.

818
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Why?

819
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Because of the myth of the razor blades in candy and apples.

820
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Yeah, but why would that all of a sudden randomly pop into my brain in the middle of

821
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,360
the night when I was just, I wasn't thinking about anything.

822
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,680
I was really peacefully just trying to sleep.

823
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320
And then that popped into my head.

824
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,800
I know normally you like your matcha, but that is anxiety.

825
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,800
It is.

826
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
I mean, it matches tea.

827
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,800
Some say it.

828
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,800
But yeah, so like intrusive thoughts are a thing.

829
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,600
And I don't think I'm being possessed.

830
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,600
I don't know, maybe I am.

831
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Do you guys think I'm possessed right now?

832
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,880
I tend to think no, but yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of.

833
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,960
Thoughts he was having, probably, I don't know, self-harm is pretty typical.

834
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Well, where they thought or because it makes us, I don't know, I'm getting like kind of

835
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:03,560
two different pictures where it's like, is this something that he was sort of visualizing

836
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,200
as like actually happening as he was experiencing sleep paralysis?

837
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:16,860
Or does it sound more like this is just an intrusive thought that he had when he had sleep

838
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:17,860
paralysis?

839
00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:18,860
Those were different.

840
00:35:18,860 --> 00:35:21,200
So I don't think he was having sleep paralysis at this point.

841
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Maybe he was.

842
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,400
So it's just kind of two horrifying things that are running in tandem.

843
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,000
They're not necessarily happening in the same moment.

844
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Maybe he was having sleep paralysis because it did say he was feeling things like grabbing

845
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,160
and clawing at his toes and then had a vision and a horrible thought.

846
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,520
I don't think he was like, yeah, he wasn't like seeing what was happening to him.

847
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,600
I think it was something else either like self-harm, maybe harming his family, harming

848
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,600
other people.

849
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
I don't know because that's pretty common.

850
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,240
I actually kind of think that's worse.

851
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,240
It's so bad.

852
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,560
It's kind of scary.

853
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Yeah.

854
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,840
I would be really scared if I was having thoughts like that.

855
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440
I mean, I've had like self-harm thoughts and.

856
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,840
I feel like sometimes your brain just goes like, hey, one, five, let me think about a razor

857
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,840
blade.

858
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,840
But for why?

859
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,680
What if I hit razor blades and all my family's food and watch them bite it?

860
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Yeah, just really terrifying.

861
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Very horrible.

862
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,200
And you do feel like where did that come from?

863
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,400
And you could be scared like maybe that you would act something out and not have control

864
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,400
over it.

865
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,400
That would be really scary.

866
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,880
I feel really bad for Stan.

867
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Yeah.

868
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,880
I feel like this is scary stuff.

869
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,920
Anyway, so apparently these disturbing and trusive visions and thoughts cause Stan to

870
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040
seek help from the church.

871
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,720
He was turned down by all of the other places that he went to.

872
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,720
I don't really know.

873
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:53,720
I don't really know exactly where he went, but he was turned down until Bishop Cloud said,

874
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,160
not today, Satan, probably literally just like that.

875
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Because we rose all day.

876
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,800
Jesus blood all day.

877
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Dude, this is the blood of Christ.

878
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,560
The power of Christ compels you.

879
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,560
What is that called?

880
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,560
The sacraments?

881
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Communion.

882
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Is that the same thing?

883
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,360
Yeah, I think that's the holy sacraments.

884
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,360
We need the body.

885
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,360
We need some bread up in this bitch.

886
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360
You got some garlic bread?

887
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,360
I have breads that could be made garlicy.

888
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,720
Oh, I do have those garlic boats.

889
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,240
Let's eat garlic Jesus.

890
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,080
Listen.

891
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:35,760
I don't know who's making who better, but that's a winning combo.

892
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,760
I think so.

893
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,760
Yeah.

894
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
We should alert the pagans for Jesus club.

895
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Oh, okay.

896
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Is that a thing?

897
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Yeah.

898
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Don't you remember?

899
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,600
That was from when we did an episode with Matt and Andrea.

900
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Oh, they didn't just bring make that up.

901
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000
Andrea.

902
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,560
No, that was like when we were recording and they were talking about how they grew up

903
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,440
very religious and they're both obviously super witchy.

904
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
And we were like, oh, it just like I don't know.

905
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Pagans for Jesus.

906
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,400
They're from.

907
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,400
Am I Right, witches.

908
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,400
Yes, which which which which I love.

909
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Yeah.

910
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,400
Um, okay.

911
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,640
I got distracted by Jesus.

912
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:23,000
So they're going to Stan's house to do this exorcism.

913
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000
And Bishop Cloud starts by walking through the house and assessing the situation.

914
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Alrighty.

915
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Ask in the stitch, if you will.

916
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Sorry.

917
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,280
I didn't even write that down.

918
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,680
I just came out of my head.

919
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Yeah.

920
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Yeah.

921
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,360
No, I mean, I see how you got there.

922
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480
So we asked in the fog out of this stitch.

923
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Yeah.

924
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,840
I'm like in the movies, the supposed demon reveals his name pretty fast.

925
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,880
Oh, that's like one of the big things for exorcisms to work as like you need to know to

926
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,880
know their name.

927
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,880
Their name.

928
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,160
I was going to say that's like there's something about that.

929
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Right.

930
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,000
I was like, it's deep in the lore.

931
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,880
I can't bring it to the forefront in my mind, but I know the name is important.

932
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,880
Yeah.

933
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,120
I think just so you can tell it to leave like instead of saying, hey, you get out of

934
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,120
here.

935
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,120
You say, hey, get out of here.

936
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,920
So he's just asking out loud.

937
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,840
Actually, he's kind of more like demanding the demon tell him his name, tell him its name.

938
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,840
I don't know.

939
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,440
The demons probably don't have a gender or whatever.

940
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Yeah.

941
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:37,360
So at first it says Zozo, which is a demon that is pretty much everybody knows and it comes

942
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
up a lot in Ouija board stories.

943
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Okay.

944
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,440
I was going to say, I feel like I've heard of this.

945
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,440
Yeah.

946
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,440
I feel like it’s either Zozo or Zuzu.

947
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Yeah.

948
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,040
The Z's man.

949
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,200
But he immediately sees through this deception and the demon is like, all right, you caught

950
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,200
me.

951
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
I'm Jariel.

952
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Jariel.

953
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Jariel.

954
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,200
Jariel.

955
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Jariel.

956
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,200
How's this spelled?

957
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,200
J-A-R-I-E-L.

958
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Jariel.

959
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Jariel.

960
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,200
Jariel.

961
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,200
Jariel.

962
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Jariel.

963
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Yeah.

964
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,200
One of those.

965
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,920
Now, Cloud says this is an angel name because it ends in E L.

966
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Okay.

967
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,720
Like, he says all angels end in E L, which is, that's not like entirely true, but a lot of

968
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:21,720
them do.

969
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,720
Give you that many options, either.

970
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:28,840
That really, that really like narrows the naming pool.

971
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,280
There's a pretty, there's a pretty decent amount of angels that end in E L, but there's also

972
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:41,240
a lot that don't want off the top of my head, Lucifer, who was an angel.

973
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,240
Yeah.

974
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,240
Didn't end in E L.

975
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,680
Wait, did they make him change his name?

976
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,480
That's what I thought, but Google said no.

977
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,480
No.

978
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Okay.

979
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,000
I was going to say, I think he was always Lucifer.

980
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Yeah.

981
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Just to see, you know, that there are angels that don't end in E L, but I guess it's if you're

982
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:04,400
in this situation and a demon is telling you, I'm Jariel or Jariel, you might just, like,

983
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,080
maybe this is an angel because it does end in E L and that's pretty typical.

984
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Okay.

985
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:14,200
I didn't search for this name in a bunch of lists of the angels and I didn't find it anywhere

986
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,560
in any of the lists and okay.

987
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,400
So he's just boldly stating that based on the spell.

988
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,600
I mean, it could be an unlisted, yeah, it could be an unlisted angel.

989
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,600
I don't know.

990
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Maybe he's an unlisted.

991
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,600
He's not in the yellow pages.

992
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,600
I don't know.

993
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Yeah.

994
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,800
Toads, but I did find the name and its origins are Hebrew and or Spanish.

995
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480
It means God's strength or God's sees.

996
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Seas as in like the ocean.

997
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200
Like Sees candy.

998
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Like sees with your eyes.

999
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,480
I was going to say I feel like it's important to clarify.

1000
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,080
I don't know.

1001
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Maybe there are people that aren't familiar with Sees candies, but sees as in like he sees.

1002
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,240
So my first thought after looking this up and I'm like, that sounds like a demon like taunting

1003
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:57,240
you.

1004
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,800
Like because you're trying to use like God's strength to get it out.

1005
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,800
Yeah.

1006
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,600
You're trying to like see who it is through, you know, your prayers and all your God's

1007
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,600
stuff.

1008
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,880
It sounds like a taunt to me.

1009
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Like why would he just immediately believe the second name he was given?

1010
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Yeah.

1011
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,680
That seems odd.

1012
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Yeah.

1013
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,680
I feel like that's a little too trusting.

1014
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Like, oh, I mean, I'm just an angel.

1015
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,320
I'm not a demon.

1016
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,320
Yeah.

1017
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,320
Yeah.

1018
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,320
Okay.

1019
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,320
You got me.

1020
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,320
I'm actually in danger.

1021
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,320
Right.

1022
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,280
So I just like really got into this demon's head and just like wanted to figure out, figure

1023
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,680
this out for whatever reason.

1024
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Yeah.

1025
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,680
So I don't know.

1026
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Maybe there's like this rule.

1027
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920
I don't know about where demons can't lie twice in a row.

1028
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,920
I don't know.

1029
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Oh, or like third time's the charm.

1030
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,720
Maybe twice and then third time he tells you his real name.

1031
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:43,720
Yeah.

1032
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:44,720
I don't know.

1033
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,720
Bishop didn't know that.

1034
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:46,720
So he didn't ask the third time.

1035
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,720
Did I ask the third time?

1036
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:48,720
I don't know.

1037
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,960
I don't know if he did as far as what I read.

1038
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960
It sounded like he just believed it was.

1039
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Okay.

1040
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,960
Jariol was his name.

1041
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Super trusting of the guy.

1042
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Yeah.

1043
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960
I don't know.

1044
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,320
It's not the move I'd make, but whatever.

1045
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Next, "Cloudy the Bish," he moves on to the backyard.

1046
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,640
All right.

1047
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,280
And you'll never guess what he finds in the backyard.

1048
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,280
Lots of spiders?

1049
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,880
I mean, probably.

1050
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,880
Yeah.

1051
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,880
But I don't know.

1052
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,880
We could probably, let's try it.

1053
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,360
Let's see it all together on the count of three.

1054
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,400
One, two, three.

1055
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,760
Native American burial ground.

1056
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,160
Oh, yeah.

1057
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,800
That makes total sense.

1058
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,840
I was just so worried about the spiders.

1059
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,280
That was really all I could think about.

1060
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,880
Did the demons spiders?

1061
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Oh, God.

1062
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,880
Okay.

1063
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,880
New feral locked.

1064
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,880
Thank you.

1065
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Awesome.

1066
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,880
Great.

1067
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,960
But like, which at this point, this is so overdone and it literally gets mentioned.

1068
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,760
I feel like in everything.

1069
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,760
Yeah.

1070
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,720
But he says he does see the operation of an indigenous woman.

1071
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,720
Okay.

1072
00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:01,760
I don't know how that translates into this as an burial ground.

1073
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,760
But who knows?

1074
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,760
That's interesting.

1075
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,000
I could have just lived there or find any artifacts or like as something else in his vision

1076
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,680
that indicates that.

1077
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,280
I guess just a feeling or maybe.

1078
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,080
I mean, listen, it's stereotype.

1079
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:25,480
It is completely plausible that there are that many and more indigenous people that are

1080
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,080
a little bit pissed off about, you know, right?

1081
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Yeah.

1082
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,360
I have a whole thing on this.

1083
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,360
What did they call it?

1084
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Like the white crotch or something where we basically just started to like take over.

1085
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,000
Like, Lucas.

1086
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Everything.

1087
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Yeah.

1088
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,840
I mean, I'm also guilty of it sometimes too.

1089
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Like I like to look into the history of the land and obviously it does always go back

1090
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,240
to the people who lived here before.

1091
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,320
Yeah.

1092
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,160
And I can totally see both sides.

1093
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,320
Like if you're feeling really guilty about the past and you think you're desecrating

1094
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
these sacred grounds.

1095
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Yeah.

1096
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,520
Yeah.

1097
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,360
It's reasonable to think that something would be pissed off from the beyond.

1098
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Right.

1099
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,560
Or maybe less or left some sort of energy behind.

1100
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,400
Let's try to protect the land.

1101
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Kind of like we saw in like the crater lake with the old man.

1102
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Like we think it's kind of like a protective spirit.

1103
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Yeah.

1104
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,000
But like if you don't have any verification of that, then that seems where you tokenize.

1105
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Yeah.

1106
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
You just mentioned it.

1107
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000
Like, hey, this is probably a thing.

1108
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Yeah.

1109
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,240
It's also harmful to always be associating Native American or indigenous people with evil.

1110
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:33,240
Right.

1111
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:34,240
Right.

1112
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,240
That's exactly.

1113
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,240
Yeah.

1114
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,240
Yeah.

1115
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:43,200
And that's like the first, it's like the first couple of things that pop in your head as

1116
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,000
like a possible reason.

1117
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,000
And he might have totally picked up on the energy of like the woman who might have lived

1118
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,600
there way before stand.

1119
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,680
But that doesn't mean she or any of the people are causing this.

1120
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960
These possessions are doing anything evil.

1121
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,960
Yeah.

1122
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:08,560
I feel like maybe we just don't assume that the white guy of a completely different, I

1123
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:15,280
mean, obviously a different ethnic and social, cultural and religious background that like

1124
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,280
he knows.

1125
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,280
Yeah.

1126
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Maybe maybe we ask for like a second opinion.

1127
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Yeah.

1128
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,840
Because I mean, they're coming to get, they're coming to get the demons.

1129
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,800
Oh, you got to call demon busters.

1130
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,800
I'm one one.

1131
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,800
Please call me.

1132
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:38,560
I don't call this a plan of maybe she is there like trying to help or being like protective

1133
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,800
overstand or something.

1134
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,120
But I guess I don't know.

1135
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,640
It also comes down to feeling too.

1136
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
So I guess if he was having a feeling about it.

1137
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Yeah.

1138
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,640
That's hard.

1139
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,120
It's hard to say that someone is right or wrong.

1140
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:57,240
So I'm trying to just see both sides of it and explain why it's kind of harmful to always

1141
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:58,240
talk about that.

1142
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,240
Yeah.

1143
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:06,440
I mean, I feel like the difference is if there's actually any basis in fact, or are we just

1144
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,120
assuming if you're finding artifacts, if you're digging up bones like, okay, yeah, maybe

1145
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,880
that could start up some shit.

1146
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,800
But I guess I don't know.

1147
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Maybe have we learned nothing from blindly trusting white men of a certain age?

1148
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Apparently not.

1149
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,800
Apparently not.

1150
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,600
I'm just saying like be open to a different idea.

1151
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Yeah.

1152
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Please.

1153
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,920
Well, as we go on, we have one more possible source for all of this.

1154
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Stance daughter.

1155
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,920
Da, da, da, da.

1156
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Blame it on the woman.

1157
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Is it like an inheritance situation though?

1158
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,280
Because then I feel like they really buried the lead.

1159
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,280
Inheritance.

1160
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Yeah, like is she trying to kill him?

1161
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Oh, no, no, no, no.

1162
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,480
Not like that.

1163
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,480
Okay.

1164
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,200
I don't think she's the problem at all, but we'll go through why they think maybe.

1165
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Are you sure?

1166
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,200
A woman.

1167
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,280
A woman's got to be evil.

1168
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,440
She apparently had some high school parties in the home with some Ouija board action.

1169
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,440
Oh, yeah, totally her fault.

1170
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,920
So, so her fault.

1171
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,120
Yeah, did she also smoke the devil's ligious?

1172
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Oh, it's funny.

1173
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,520
I mentioned that the bishop thinks that it's definitely a doorway.

1174
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,960
The Ouija board is definitely a doorway and highly likely to let the evil in.

1175
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Another thing he thinks lets the evil in is and he just boldly assumes that this was at

1176
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,480
this high school party.

1177
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Drugs.

1178
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Great.

1179
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Yes.

1180
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,480
Which he calls sorcery.

1181
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,840
What kind of sorcery is this?

1182
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,840
Like that just makes it sound cooler, My dude.

1183
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:50,280
Honestly, honestly, I feel like you're not understanding the actual versus intended.

1184
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,280
Right.

1185
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,280
Yeah.

1186
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,280
Of course, if you're in high school, if you're at a party doing a Ouija board, that must

1187
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,120
mean you're on drugs.

1188
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Ouija board and weed.

1189
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:00,880
Yeah, totally.

1190
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,000
It all just goes together.

1191
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,360
There was no questioning it.

1192
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,320
It was just assumed it sounded like.

1193
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,320
All right.

1194
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,320
Cool.

1195
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:16,600
This means now since Stan's daughter deblled, she would have to renounce all occult practices.

1196
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
And if she doesn't, it will probably just come back.

1197
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,800
The exorcism won't work.

1198
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,800
All right.

1199
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,400
So we're putting it all on the not little girl she's, I think in college, but like an adult

1200
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,400
as a woman.

1201
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,400
Yeah.

1202
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Okay.

1203
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,720
It's all on her now.

1204
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:36,260
So we don't ever have to worry about him hearing this episode and having thoughts or

1205
00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:42,980
feelings about it because I mean, clearly they'd have to swear off, you know, a podcast

1206
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,100
where they would be tarot cards.

1207
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,420
Oh, yo, we'll get there.

1208
00:49:47,420 --> 00:49:48,660
We will get there.

1209
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:49,660
Oh my God.

1210
00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:51,060
So I have a picture.

1211
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:54,460
I'm going to just air drop T wrong quack.

1212
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:55,700
Wrong quack.

1213
00:49:55,700 --> 00:50:00,460
This is cloud going around the house with his giant "Christ on a cross."

1214
00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:02,340
Okay.

1215
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:08,460
And he does this "in the name of Jesus" stuff while he's smoke cleansing, using the rosary

1216
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:11,460
beads and consecrated oils.

1217
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:17,300
I also have to read you this quote about his crucifix that you're looking at right now.

1218
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:18,300
Yeah.

1219
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:19,300
Yep.

1220
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:25,580
So this is the quote of why he has this particular really, really big crucifix that wouldn't even

1221
00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:27,140
fit in Caitlyn's hand.

1222
00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:28,900
No, it wouldn't.

1223
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:34,820
So "because I'm a hefty boy and I like a little heftiness, I like to get it on."

1224
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:35,820
Okay.

1225
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:36,820
Yeah.

1226
00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:42,820
So that quote makes a lot more sense now that I've seen him.

1227
00:50:42,820 --> 00:50:51,100
He looks pretty much exactly like what I was the picture I was building in my mind.

1228
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,700
And my hair matches his shirt.

1229
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:54,700
That's why I dyed my hair today.

1230
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:55,700
A little bit.

1231
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:56,700
A little bit.

1232
00:50:56,700 --> 00:50:57,700
A little bit.

1233
00:50:57,700 --> 00:50:58,700
A little bit.

1234
00:50:58,700 --> 00:50:59,700
A little bit.

1235
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:00,700
A little bit.

1236
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:01,700
I'm not going to lie.

1237
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:02,700
God.

1238
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:03,700
I'm a hefty boy.

1239
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,700
I need a hefty “Christ on a cross."

1240
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:06,700
Okay.

1241
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:07,700
Okay.

1242
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:27,820
Not sure why we're talking about that, but then, you know, here we are.

1243
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:33,660
I feel like he just thinks it just like gives him more power in his conviction or whatever.

1244
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:34,660
Yeah.

1245
00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:37,940
No, I mean, he's canaling.

1246
00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:39,460
Carry a big stick.

1247
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:40,460
Wow.

1248
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:41,460
Wow, wow, wow.

1249
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:43,940
It's to get all the big demons out.

1250
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:46,460
All the better to get the demons out.

1251
00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:51,340
Really the only action from this exorcism is the bishop felt his foot get grabbed at one

1252
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:52,340
point.

1253
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:55,140
So there's a lot of like maybe this demon does have a foot fetish.

1254
00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:56,140
There's a lot of like foot.

1255
00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:57,140
Yeah.

1256
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:58,140
I feel like it's foot fetish.

1257
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:03,380
Or maybe like a little like a really small demon and all it can reach is the feet.

1258
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:04,540
That could be.

1259
00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:05,540
That could be.

1260
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:10,420
I feel like it's more salacious if we think of it as a foot fetish demon.

1261
00:52:10,420 --> 00:52:11,420
Just like that.

1262
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:14,140
I'm willing to entertain either.

1263
00:52:14,140 --> 00:52:18,620
I'm picturing it like when the Grinch like slithers around the floor.

1264
00:52:18,620 --> 00:52:19,620
Yes.

1265
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:20,620
Yes.

1266
00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:21,620
Yes.

1267
00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:22,620
A thousand percent.

1268
00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:23,620
A thousand percent.

1269
00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:30,340
Oh, and the other action actionable thing that happened was Bishop Cloud got a little

1270
00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:34,940
possessed himself by the Lord speaking in tongues.

1271
00:52:34,940 --> 00:52:35,940
Well I don't understand.

1272
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:37,740
I guess because you're being possessed by the Lord.

1273
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:38,740
It's okay.

1274
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:41,540
I don't understand the difference.

1275
00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:42,540
I really don't.

1276
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:48,540
I think I have never and probably will never understand the the speaking in tongues.

1277
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:49,540
Me anything.

1278
00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:51,040
It's scary to witness.

1279
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,040
I've witnessed it.

1280
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Yeah.

1281
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,520
So like if it if the Lord let's entertain this for a moment.

1282
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,000
If the Lord was going to possess you, he knows allegedly all of the words.

1283
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,000
Right.

1284
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,120
He might even have all of the best words and he sends out of your mouth.

1285
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,520
I guess so.

1286
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,360
Is it the Lord possessing you?

1287
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,360
Is that why it happens?

1288
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,360
I really don't know.

1289
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,960
I was kind of just like pulling that on on my butt.

1290
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,800
Oh, that sounds right.

1291
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,960
It sounds right to me.

1292
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,960
You can Google it.

1293
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Okay.

1294
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:32,320
I don't know that it necessarily outright says that I would think that's one interpretation.

1295
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,320
Okay.

1296
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,320
That you're being possessed.

1297
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,320
So I'm not totally off.

1298
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,560
No, I don't think so.

1299
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,240
I don't think so.

1300
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:46,320
So speaking in tongues also known as Glossolalia is a practice where someone others speech

1301
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,080
like sounds.

1302
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Take that in for a moment.

1303
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,240
Speech like sounds.

1304
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,080
So this is all toddlers.

1305
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Okay.

1306
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,120
Or words that are believed to be a language unknown to the speaker.

1307
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,920
It is a spiritual gift that some Christians believe is given by the Holy Spirit.

1308
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,920
All right.

1309
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,920
I don't know.

1310
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,720
I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yom.

1311
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:10,720
No.

1312
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,520
That one's not mine.

1313
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,000
It's nope.

1314
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,080
If it's your yom and you've made it this far and you're listening to us, then that

1315
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,240
means your mind is pretty open and cool.

1316
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:22,560
I feel like we are too.

1317
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,920
So if you want to explain it to us, I would love that.

1318
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Yeah.

1319
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,440
We have an email, pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.

1320
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Yeah.

1321
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,440
Types will email.

1322
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,240
And I mean, I grew up religious and I feel like, you know, I've had experiences that have

1323
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:45,120
given me a sense of, you know, having faith, maybe not in the form of fashion that a traditional

1324
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:51,920
religion probably sort of dictates, but, you know, I think it's a tool.

1325
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,920
I think so too.

1326
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:53,920
I think so too.

1327
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,920
I think so too.

1328
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,920
I think so too.

1329
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,920
I think so too.

1330
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,920
I think so too.

1331
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,920
I think so too.

1332
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,920
I think so too.

1333
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:00,920
I think so too.

1334
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,920
I think so too.

1335
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,920
I think so too.

1336
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,920
I think so too.

1337
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,920
I think so too.

1338
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,920
I think so too.

1339
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,920
I think so too.

1340
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,920
I think so too.

1341
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:08,920
I think so too.

1342
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,920
I think so too.

1343
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,920
I think so too.

1344
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:11,920
I think so too.

1345
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,920
Yeah.

1346
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,920
I've gotten a church too.

1347
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:20,760
feel stuff. But yeah. It just wasn't for me. Yeah. And I mean, as a kid, I've attended, you know,

1348
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:27,840
different churches and in different places over time. There is a difference in the energy too, so,

1349
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:35,480
I do feel like there are plenty of people who probably don't experience a religious atmosphere,

1350
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:41,640
or, you know, event in the same way that, you know, somebody else might. Yeah. They don't,

1351
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:47,320
they just have had a totally different experience because of, you know, who they're surrounded by. Yeah.

1352
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Hopefully, really awesome cool hope so. Yeah. I don't know. That's not always the case. Yeah.

1353
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,200
What are you gonna do? Yeah. We're all different. We all believe different things. I'm not here to

1354
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,160
tell you that you're wrong and try to get you on my side other than tell you what I think. And

1355
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:09,400
if it resonates with you, cool, if it doesn't, cool. I don't think there's an issue with, I mean,

1356
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:18,040
really almost any spiritual belief until it becomes what I have to impose this on anybody. Exactly.

1357
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:26,920
You know, if this starts to impact anybody else's safety, mental health, general physical well-being,

1358
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,400
whatever the case may be, that's when it becomes an issue for me. If you're trying to tell me,

1359
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:38,920
I'm evil for the things that I do that I don't think are evil. Yeah. Red. So speaks in tongues,

1360
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:46,040
he gets a little touched. But at the end, now he's got his big old meaty mitts on Stan's head

1361
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:55,240
and he renounces all of the occult fun. Okay. And that's it. We don't really, I don't really know if it

1362
00:56:55,240 --> 00:57:00,040
worked for Stan probably not because I highly doubt his daughter. I don't know. I mean, I don't know

1363
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:08,040
his daughter. Maybe she did come home and renounce all of the evil stuff. Yeah. I don't know if it worked

1364
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:15,320
or not. That's how it went down. This is Bishop Cloud site. It is paranormal research investigators

1365
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:22,040
of St. Michael and it's called prism. There's a quote on his site, we will never use Ouija, tarot,

1366
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:29,880
shamanism, crystals, wica, or any other occult practice. These are just some of the many ways in which

1367
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,720
the enemy gains a foothold in a person's life and then expands its domain into their relationship

1368
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:45,240
finances and spiritual life finances. Yeah. That's an interesting assertion given us. So, wow.

1369
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:52,600
That was one of the things is like if you're being in that oppression stage, like it can affect

1370
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:58,040
you like going to work and stuff. So I think that's like kind of part of it. Oh, see, I'm looking bigger

1371
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:05,960
than that because I'm like, Oh, interesting, you know, financial like having a 501c3 or other exemption

1372
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:13,880
for tax purposes, giving a certain percentage of your income. Right. And I don't know if they do

1373
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:20,760
that at his church. I have no idea. It's kind of a big church thing. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. But like

1374
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:27,960
reading this list, I'm like, where fucked? Also, they're scared of rocks from the earth,

1375
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:34,360
bringing demons. Listen, they're rocks. These are the same people that I feel like are saying

1376
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,640
God made dirt, dirt won't hurt. God made rocks. What's wrong with the rocks? The rocks did nothing

1377
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:47,080
to you. Yeah. He's using this cross, which is metal, right? Which is like, is that like a rock?

1378
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:53,960
I don't know. I mean, metals like from the earth, right? Right. I mean, it's like a mineral or whatever.

1379
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,240
I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they're they're forged from, you know, different elements that are found

1380
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:06,760
present in, I mean, a number of different ways like it, whether it's in soil or it's

1381
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:13,960
mind from other like rock sources or. But you're using that as like a symbol of protection or whatever.

1382
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,440
That's the same thing we do with crystals. If you're he's smoke cleansing.

1383
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Where do you think that came from? Definitely not the pagans and like all of the other indigenous cultures.

1384
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:35,240
Like, yeah, it seems like throughout time, throughout history and cultural practices. There is a very

1385
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:47,640
strong current of like certain things, elements, our view as like in a very similar way. So all of us

1386
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:54,440
humans independently on totally separate corners of this earth have decided that like this smoke

1387
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:01,080
stuff, we can like, it does something like. Yeah, it obviously does because we all the well, not all of us,

1388
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:08,360
but a lot of us believe that it does. It's just, but no, you're right. This one way that some people

1389
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:13,880
choose to use the smoke. That's bad. Yeah. But theirs is like totally fine. Yours is fine though.

1390
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:21,960
And yeah, I don't it just see. You just don't understand. So now like I said before, I don't, I really

1391
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,320
don't want to make light of stand situation. And I do think what he experienced is really scary.

1392
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:33,080
And I'm glad he was attempting to get some help for it. I really don't know just based off the

1393
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:40,680
information in the article. I'm sure they didn't really share everything. Yeah. But I don't know how

1394
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Bishop Cloud determined that stands sleep paralysis and intrusive thoughts were not a mental health

1395
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:54,440
issue. Yes. And that's it kind of goes back to like the concerns that I was sharing sort of at the

1396
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:03,320
top. Like I think you have to exhaust all of those like physical medical other rational explanation

1397
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:09,160
before we just sort of start poking around in the spiritual. Exactly. Like I think maybe he should

1398
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:15,640
have, I don't know, if Stan visited like therapist or anything like that. I really think that's

1399
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,280
important and important thing to do first. I mean, it could be mental health. Hell, honestly,

1400
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:25,480
the reason why I say like physical, it's not just a matter of mental health. You could literally

1401
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,920
have a brain tumor. Like those are your regular doctor. Or you could have like mold in your house

1402
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,840
or some sort of electric like the EMF things like those can really fuck with you. Yeah. I know you

1403
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,040
think of like the EMF readers detecting ghosts. But like if the EMFs are really, really high that

1404
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,800
the electromagnetic fields and those can like make you hallucinate, make you feel like weird. And

1405
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,080
yeah. So I don't know. I feel like they're just needed. I don't know if there was more investigation done

1406
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:59,400
prior to this. But I feel like that that's really necessary to do. Especially go see a like a real

1407
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:06,600
therapist first, like get some mental health stuff checked first before you try to get an exorcism

1408
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,280
of things. They're still wrong. Like then maybe, okay, then maybe try try anything you can. But I

1409
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:17,320
don't know. I think that's a really important thing to do. I mean, hey, listen, I'll try anything once.

1410
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:27,320
You only owe low once. Can I have any more? Maybe. At one point, I really did think we were going to

1411
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:32,920
need one in the old department. Oh, yeah. And now I feel like we were at step two. We just we were in

1412
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:40,280
place. Yeah. Because I was having horrific dreams. And I was feeling very sick and having a lot of

1413
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:46,040
issues with my sleep. Dude, you were about to get possessed. I yeah, it kind of feels a

1414
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:55,800
little bit. Maybe. But you know, we we did everything that seemed reasonable aside from inviting a

1415
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:02,360
random religious leader into our home. And we do terror all the time. So, you know, we're just asking

1416
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:10,360
for it. Yeah. What was she wearing? Exactly. But anyway, I like I hope it worked out for Stan. I hope

1417
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,960
his problems were solved in whatever way. If it was the exorcism, if he got different help after

1418
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:21,880
words, I hope everything's okay in that situation, especially for the daughter. Yeah. Yeah. So I

1419
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:31,320
hope everyone involved. Yeah. Hope that's all that's all. There is a video news story of Bishop Cloud

1420
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:38,040
doing another exorcism on a man in golden Oregon. Oh boy. Okay. And this is a notoriously haunted

1421
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:45,560
place. Mm. Our Lord and Savior, Zach Begglebytes went there and got the ship possessed out of him.

1422
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,480
Yeah, it's like a really like a haunted like little ghost town type of thing.

1423
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:55,880
Oh, okay. Golden Oregon. Yeah. And it was on ghost adventures. So they have a if you're interested

1424
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:00,600
in the sources, they have a video of him. You could see him in his purple shirt smoking a cigar

1425
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:08,920
doing his thing. Okay. There's one more exorcism I would like to talk to y'all about. All right.

1426
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:16,760
Following the Portland Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, Archbishop Alexander Sample

1427
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:26,840
conducted an exorcism on the city streets. So he is Roman Catholic and is associated with the

1428
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:32,920
big Papa Pope Church. Yeah. I wonder for how long. No, this is like this is legit. This is the

1429
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:39,240
legit one. No, I know. I'm saying if he's doing exorcisms on the street, I wonder how long

1430
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,320
he's doing. No, the exorcism was legit. That's what I'm saying. Like this was all this was all done.

1431
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:50,840
This was good. This was a good permission. Okay. All right. I'm going to tell you about it. Okay.

1432
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:58,920
So the reason for this was not to like exercise any demons from any people. Okay. It was just to

1433
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:06,200
get rid of any negativity left behind from the demonstrations. Oh, interesting. Okay. Sample explains

1434
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:12,520
quote, we all know there's been a lot of unrest side by side with those legitimate and righteous

1435
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:19,400
and wonderful demonstrations. We've seen this violence that has also erupted and maybe distracted

1436
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:28,760
somewhat from the real issues of racial injustice. So he's just he's just doing like a clenching. Yeah.

1437
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:35,720
He's like she's seen some things. Yeah. She needs like a spa day. Yeah. It was really just to clear it

1438
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:42,120
of any negativity to like hope that in the future that things will be better and there's just no lingering

1439
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:51,000
bad energy in the streets of Portland, Oregon. Interesting. Where there was a lot of energy. Lots of

1440
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:57,400
in 2020. Yeah. There was like what was it like four months or something of like protest. I

1441
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:03,960
I think it went on a bit longer than that. I think this article said like about four months. They

1442
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:11,720
did it in October, I think. I think I mean, there are certain time periods where it was like at peak.

1443
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:17,800
But then there have been, you know, some sporadic demonstrations that occurred for I mean,

1444
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:24,360
it felt like that almost never went away fully. Yeah. Well, that year was 10 years long. So

1445
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:32,520
I say it all the time. 2020. The longest decade ever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think this one was

1446
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:39,560
this is kind of like how exorcism should be. Just like a like a nice thing to do for people,

1447
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:48,040
not really trying to. Yeah. It was poised to really be unhappy and uncomfortable. So I ended it

1448
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:54,840
on a good note for you. Yeah. Not all exorcisms are because of Ouija boards. No, I mean, that was good.

1449
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Yeah. Well, that was all I had. But then like going through this, I remembered something that

1450
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,360
happened to me while I was house sitting. And I'm watching dogs. So like we took the dogs out, we,

1451
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:10,600
it was just me. Okay. I met we the dogs and I went outside. Got it. Yeah. So they went potty. It's

1452
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:16,840
like 10 o'clock at night. It's dark. Nothing's going on. We come back inside. I close the door.

1453
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:22,680
And I lock it. And they have like a bell on the door for the dog to, you know, jingle jungle. Okay.

1454
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:30,680
I need a potty genius. So I was walking away. I swear the dogs were like here, like next to me,

1455
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,280
like grabbing toys doing that. They were all excited because they went pee and they came back in the

1456
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:40,680
house. You know, we were like the door. Well, I guess people can't release the I was probably like 10

1457
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:46,840
feet away from the door. Like door is here. I'm like here. Okay. With the dogs. And also,

1458
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:54,440
I hear this like bang. And it sounded like someone took both of their hands and went bang on the front

1459
01:07:54,440 --> 01:08:03,720
door and the bells jingled. And I was like, I turned and look and the dogs weren't over there.

1460
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:08,440
They were still running around. And I was like that couldn't have been like, because one of them's

1461
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,640
a great Dan and he's big. So I'm like, okay, I can ran into the door like maybe. Yeah. But he

1462
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:21,480
wasn't even over there. And so I told a person whose house it was. And she was like, well, birds like

1463
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:29,160
flying to the door sometimes. I'm like, I'm gonna say it is a very lazy Amazon delivery. Right.

1464
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,640
They just like threw it at the door. Right. But the camera didn't go off. Nothing was at the door.

1465
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:38,280
It was 10 o'clock at night. Who would be delivering a package? Birds aren't flying around at 10 o'clock.

1466
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:45,480
It could have been a bat, I guess. But like the sound I've heard. I've heard the birds. They hit the windows a

1467
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:52,200
lot. And I think they have hit the door before. But it just that's a much more like the sound of that

1468
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:57,480
is so slight compared to a full-sized human putting both of their hands. And I don't know. That's

1469
01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:01,960
exactly what it sounded like is something someone threw something heavy at the door or if it was like

1470
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,760
their two hands. And that's the immediate thought I had was like someone with their two hands.

1471
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:14,520
Hitting the door. It was so weird. And I really don't know how to explain it. I mean, I guess I could have

1472
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:21,240
been like a bat or something that just like flew away after. It didn't, I don't know. Bat seems too small

1473
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:28,360
to move. It's too nervous. I know. And I was thinking there is someone who lives downstairs. So it could have

1474
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:35,320
been him slamming a door. But I've it just the way that it happened. The house is really big.

1475
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,960
If someone's downstairs slamming a door, it's not going to jiggle the door upstairs and like make the

1476
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:48,040
bells. You might hear it. But but the vibration. Like the bells came off the door and like smacked the door.

1477
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:53,880
Like it didn't just jingle it. Like it sounded like it came off the door and like smacked it. Yeah.

1478
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:59,240
Like very forceful. Not like hard. But just yeah. Just as if someone had hit the door just enough to

1479
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:05,400
where the bells kind of went off the door and back. Yeah. She doesn't think it was anything. But she

1480
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:11,640
doesn't believe in any of the stuff. She has told me someone has died on the property again, old woman.

1481
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:17,960
But she's like and I'm like, what if it's on and she's like, it's not fucking haunted. But I mean, I don't know what

1482
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:23,080
I mean, that's what I would tell myself if I lived there too. Why would an old woman be banging on the door

1483
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:29,960
with that force? Because she's like, I cannot believe this door is locked. When I lived here, we left all

1484
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:36,600
of the doors unlocked. Maybe. I mean that she didn't live in the house. It's just on the property because

1485
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:42,920
the house is new. Okay. I don't know. Maybe she's pissed because she's like, I'm more of a cab person.

1486
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:51,240
Yeah. But I mean, I got scared for like a second, but I was like, I can't like, I mean, I'm not going to let

1487
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:57,480
things scare me because then it's just going to get worse, you know? Yeah. I do think it feeds off

1488
01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:03,560
the energy is certain amount. So I just say, no, thank you. Okay. And I go to bed and we don't go outside

1489
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:09,880
the rest of the night. Cam and I got to bed now. So good night, everyone. The other thought I had was

1490
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,840
like, what if it was like a, because there's wild animals all around. So what if like something followed

1491
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,840
us back to the door, but like the camera didn't, the ring didn't go off. Yeah. So. Which does make me think,

1492
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:28,840
okay, well, at least it seems reasonable to unless you're presented with new or additional evidence,

1493
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:35,960
at least there's no physical threat. Yeah. Currently. Hopefully. Yeah. Okay. I mean, nothing happened,

1494
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:45,160
I guess. I think I'm fine. I'm probably going to wear a hole through this. This is a tire time.

1495
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:52,920
It's just been spinning like a top. I wish I wish I had something as I'm, I do. I do. You have an emotional

1496
01:11:52,920 --> 01:12:00,040
support. Stuffy. My mommy got this for me for Christmas. Very cute. She knows me really well. Yeah.

1497
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:07,160
Is that a squish? Yeah. Yeah. Squishmellow. Yeah. I love it. It's like, I can't really tell if it's

1498
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:13,000
like a bat devil or if it's like a demon or I feel like it's like a little bat devil. Like a bat?

1499
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,520
Like a mischievous bat devil. You know what I mean? I also have one of these that's a bat that's a

1500
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:25,320
mushroom. Adorable. That's cute. I know. So you have like a thing for mushrooms. Mushrooms and bats.

1501
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:30,680
Interesting. What can I say? Okay. On that note, should we do some tarot? Oh yeah! Tarot!

1502
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:35,400
I brought my beetle juice deck for this because I thought it was appropriate.

1503
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:41,400
Which is new. I got it for Christmas. I'm so excited. I was going to say I don't think I've seen

1504
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,520
that before. I looked over and I was like, hello. I just got it. It's so excited. Very exciting.

1505
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,920
Okay. Let's do tarot. Okay.

1506
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:55,480
Okay. Caitlyn's shuffled. I'm going to shuffle.

1507
01:12:55,480 --> 01:13:04,920
They like get stuck. All the cards are new. I'm having a hard time. The cards are brand new. So she's

1508
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:12,360
having a little bit of a struggle bus situation with spreading them out. Cassie is picking a card.

1509
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:23,080
Is she gonna... I think this is the one? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, there's stock.

1510
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:29,320
Okay. Well, it was in the reverse. I'll let you vana with the rights ahead.

1511
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,720
My head was in the way while you were picking. I had her... I had two stuck together and I had her

1512
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:39,720
pick one. So we got the Queen of Pentacles in reverse. This is my Beetlejuice deck.

1513
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:47,320
This is one of the party goers when they had the party with the shrimp and the crab in the face and

1514
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:58,200
what's that? The banana boat song? It's not the banana boat. Wait. I can't think of any other words.

1515
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:06,520
Get the banana boat. No, we know the song. You get it. You know the Beetlejuice song. Come on.

1516
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,040
Okay, I'm gonna set it on the altar. Okay.

1517
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:19,640
Day-o. Day-o. Day-o. Day-o. Day-o-like. Come. I mean it's like the banana song. Yeah, a little bit.

1518
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:24,280
A little ball-bob. Okay. Me said it. Me said okay.

1519
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,360
Oh, my God. Something happened. Okay. Best.

1520
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,560
Plus my nails.

1521
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:39,080
All right, our key words are comfort, security, wealth, generosity,

1522
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,160
managerial ability and fertility. Okay.

1523
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:50,040
Like the King, the Queen of Pentacles often appears seated on a throne,

1524
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:56,920
wearing rich garments and a crown. Some deck show her gazing down at a pentacle in her lap,

1525
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:04,520
symbolizing fertility. Oh, interesting. It's like a pentacle and I don't know why. Like a pentagram

1526
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:10,600
is like what people think of as like one of the evil things and like, oh, there's so many demons with

1527
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:16,520
their pentagram. Uh, demons of witches. I think a pentacle is like a pentagram is like a

1528
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:22,040
pentacle upside down, right? That sounds right. We're going to go with that. I'm going with that.

1529
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:31,080
This card may represent an actual person, usually a mature woman who's intelligent,

1530
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:42,200
serious and strong. Us? Uh, possibly. Um, possibly. I'll save. Okay, I'm just going to go into the

1531
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:51,640
interpretation. Okay. In a reading about, oh, no, I almost read the upright. Okay, it's in river.

1532
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:58,280
Her eyes look so creepy. I know you can't see it right now. But like looking at the altar and

1533
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:03,160
like seeing this woman's eyes like from upside down, because I put the card upside down. It looks

1534
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:12,120
really creepy. Okay. When reversed, the Queen of Pentacles may indicate a questionable

1535
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:21,320
financial situation. We kind of did talk about that. Like we weren't really sure. What's interesting.

1536
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:27,640
Okay. Sometimes it shows a lack of understanding in money matters, mismanaging property,

1537
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:37,080
reckless spending or hoarding. Mm-hmm. NV or manipulation may exist when this card appears

1538
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:43,640
reversed. Oh, no. I mean, I was hoping there was no manipulation, but I mean, that was kind of,

1539
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:50,440
I mean, I feel like it's implied. I feel like it's there. Yeah. It can also suggest indulgence

1540
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:59,240
and laziness, or it may represent caretaker burnout. Caretaker burnout? That's, yeah. Interesting.

1541
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Note there. Huh. I'm going to noodle on it. In a reading about money, the reversed Queen says,

1542
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:12,200
"You're not dealing with money matters in a constructive, realistic way. An investment or

1543
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:20,360
business venture may be shady or won't pay off." Oh, a shady business venture, huh? Interesting.

1544
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:27,960
Your finances may be unstable, or an advisor/partner may not be reliable.

1545
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:39,560
Hmm. If the reading is about work, you may feel insecure in your job, status and engage in questionable

1546
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:47,320
behavior to hold onto your position. I don't know. I just like questionable behavior in your job,

1547
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,600
just reminding me of him like getting kicked out of his church for doing exercises. Yeah. Yeah.

1548
01:17:53,320 --> 01:18:00,280
Sometimes this card can indicate you've sold your soul for security and feel trapped and unfulfilled

1549
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:07,080
as a result. Just the wording sold your soul. That's crazy. Yeah. How many fucking cards say that?

1550
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:14,360
Probably not. Probably just the one. Yeah. In a reading about love, the reversed Queen suggests

1551
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:22,440
an unhappy relationship based on security status or wealth. In some cases, it represents

1552
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:32,520
sexual access, obsession or trading sex for financial benefits. Okay. I mean, I don't know if that has

1553
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:41,080
anything to do with the like specifically with this, but it just seems like salacious, you know? Yeah.

1554
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:48,600
The evil things indicative of scandal. Yeah. I feel like. Okay. There is an extra excerpt,

1555
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:59,320
"Earthmother." We often refer to our planet as "mother earth," and which is considered the earth to be

1556
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:05,720
feminine. In the writer Waitsmith, Dach, the Queen of Pentacles sits in a beautiful landscape

1557
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:10,760
which indicates her strong connection with nature. She's the ultimate earthmother.

1558
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:20,760
Which is like all like paganism is about is like really earth and yeah. Interesting. We drew this card.

1559
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,840
That's like a queen, like a woman and there was a lot of woman bashing in this

1560
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:35,400
religion in general and in this specific exorcism episode. And I'm really like wondering what

1561
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:42,360
this other card was. That was stuck to it now. It's the Ace of Cups in reverse. And it's another

1562
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:51,080
woman. Interesting. It is Lydia on her bike. And you said this is Ace of Cups in reverse as well.

1563
01:19:51,080 --> 01:20:00,520
Okay. Keywords are new love, beginning a creative activity in joy. The reversed Ace can

1564
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:07,080
indicate a delay in starting a relationship. It can also mean a romance that seemed promising,

1565
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:12,600
doesn't develop or turn out as you'd hoped. What if this was like from the demons perspective?

1566
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:19,240
That's so funny. I was going to say I feel like I understand why the other card was the one

1567
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:26,120
that wins out. That maybe that makes sense too. This may not be the right time to start something new.

1568
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:33,240
This is so from the demons perspective like I can't get that out of my head now. Yeah. Interesting.

1569
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:39,800
In a reading about money, the reversed Ace suggests you may have to wait a while to profit from a new venture.

1570
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:45,800
Especially if you're not getting paid for it. Or it can mean you won't make as much as you'd

1571
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:52,040
expected. Again, especially if you're not getting paid. Or I was kind of thinking before I lose it.

1572
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:59,160
Like the like Stan who has this new relationship with his exorcist and like maybe it didn't work out

1573
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:07,560
right away. If the reading is about your work, you may encounter delays in landing your dream job.

1574
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:15,000
For creative people, this Ace can represent a dry spa when you feel stifled or uninspired.

1575
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:22,520
In a reading about love, you may run into obstacles, limitations, or disappointments.

1576
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:28,600
Oh, you can't possess this person because this bishop cloud is just yelling at you.

1577
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:37,240
You know, maybe, maybe get out of here. It's my half day cruiser fruits.

1578
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:44,520
Seriously. Oh, I'm sorry. Christ on the cross. Yeah. You get it. Oh, man. Well, that was fun.

1579
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:50,520
Yeah. I really loved using my beetle juice stack. That's good. That was a good one. It came with a

1580
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:58,680
weird interpretation. Oh, boy. Yeah. That's booklet. That's like one page. Wow. I kind of want to,

1581
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,400
I don't know if these say anything extra. Let's see. What was that first one again? So

1582
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:10,200
Queen of Pentacles. Queen of Pentacles. And then the Ace of Cops in Rivers. Oh, this is interesting.

1583
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:15,480
When the when reverse, the Queen of Pentacles finds you turning inward, taking time away from your

1584
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:22,440
career and family. So you can do the essential work on yourself. Don't worry. They'll manage

1585
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:29,000
just fine without you. Interesting. It reminds me of like having work issues when you're like having

1586
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:34,040
a possession and yeah. And then like you have to turn away from everything and then like get help,

1587
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:39,640
you have to work on yourself to get the demons out. That's exactly what I was thinking. And then

1588
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:47,640
something is keeping you grounded when all you want to do is fly like away with a diamond.

1589
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:54,840
With a diamond. This block is temporary, but it's worth investigating what's holding you down.

1590
01:22:54,840 --> 01:23:05,320
Oh, God. The sleep paralysis. Yeah. I don't like that. They're literally investigating what was

1591
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:11,400
holding him down. That's crazy. Yeah, I think we should get back to true crime. I'm really glad that I

1592
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:18,600
opened this. Okay. You're ready for new experiences, new relationships and a boon of artistic inspiration.

1593
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:29,160
Oh, a boon. Daniel. Daniel. That's an angelic name. Daniel. Because it ends in E.L. Oh, interesting.

1594
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:37,240
Shake off your past and dance your way into a beautiful new time of life. That's kind of interesting

1595
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:42,360
too because in Beetlejuice, the dancing was like they were being possessed whenever people,

1596
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:49,560
they were like making people dance. Yeah, that's true. Oh, it's just all connected with that one

1597
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:57,880
little piece of paper I decided to pull out. Interesting. That's cool. Well, do you guys love our

1598
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:06,040
altar with our Taylor prayer candle, our Cee Nuiville here, I know I'm gonna speak Nuiville

1599
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:13,160
bats. The bait. We got our protective crystal with it's like a gold gold sheen obsidian. I think

1600
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:21,000
it's called like a gold obsidian. I think it's called gold gold sheen obsidian. Gold. You're

1601
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:28,120
fancier than me. I don't know. I thought obsidian was just black. It is. So normally obsidian is black,

1602
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:32,680
but there is. It's like not black. They're like not a shimmery though. I thought. Yeah, this is

1603
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:37,560
a gold sheen obsidian. So gold sheen obsidian has like, it's like I feel like it's almost like

1604
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:43,640
tiger's eye kind of. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Very reminiscent of that. I think they're silver too.

1605
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:50,120
But they're really cool. I guess you can't tell. All of us kind of show off the ball really quick.

1606
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:56,440
Okay. Or the egg. Interesting. It's an egg and the thing said stuff about like fertility.

1607
01:24:56,440 --> 01:25:03,480
Oh yeah, that's a good point. It's very pretty. It's so cool. Because it does just look like a black

1608
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:10,600
stone at first glance really. Oh, I love this thing. But obsidian is like very like a very protective

1609
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,800
stone, which is why I... Yeah. I brought it today and then it's being held up by my three gargoyle

1610
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:22,120
little stand. The gargs. The gargs. They're protective too. So we got a lot of protective stuff going

1611
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:28,440
on just in case. Oh, and you know, I think I maybe knew that at one point, but I didn't...

1612
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:34,600
It wasn't clicking. Yeah. Maybe I learned it and then forgot it. I didn't realize I guess gargoyles.

1613
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,480
Yeah. They're protective too. It makes sense why they would be like on every

1614
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:45,880
on the outside of her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I used to have a gargoyle outside my front door

1615
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:51,480
and I have pat on my head. It lives at my friend Brittany's house now. I love it. A lullvich. And then we

1616
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:59,400
of course have the super evil Ouija board. That's not a Ouija board. It is a cutting board. So,

1617
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:08,040
Kate, let us say, there's no plan chat to go with it. Which I believe Ouija boards in general are not...

1618
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:14,600
They can't do anything unless you're trying to communicate. So if it's just sitting in your house

1619
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:24,200
for a decoration. No, I agree. I think, you know, until you actually open... Take the steps. It's an

1620
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:29,800
inanimate object. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. So we're safe either way, but... A herb.

1621
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:35,320
In the middle of sage, little sage bundle, smoked cleansing bundle. There ain't nothing little about

1622
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:43,160
sage bundle. It's huge. It's enormous. It's got a... What did you say? Gerthy. She girthy.

1623
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:49,720
Hefty? I'm a hefty boy. Hefty boy. That's so funny. Well, I can't.

1624
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:59,480
That's my sad. Hefty boy. Oh, there might be a Patreon bonus. There's like some little extra stuff

1625
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:04,280
that I just didn't because it was... It turned out to be nine pages. Which is like... Wow. Yeah, that's

1626
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:10,840
long. I think the longest one I ever did was like 10. So nine's pretty long. Usually it's like seven, eight.

1627
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:17,080
Yeah. I feel like that's like pretty solid. Yeah. Like lengthwise for kind of the format that we use.

1628
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:24,600
I just had some opinions. We've had a couple of like little mini-so things too from like episodes

1629
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:32,440
that have already been out now that like, hopefully we can get to. Maybe not today. Patreon bonus is

1630
01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:42,840
we have them planned. So get ready. But we just recorded a Patreon bonus that has to go out. So

1631
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:50,760
we did a little news. So news club poll for them. Yeah. Okay. All right. Should we go? Should we

1632
01:27:50,760 --> 01:28:02,680
go? Finish our blood and get out of here. Yeah. Oh my. Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday.

1633
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:11,960
Unless you're possessed by the demon or Jesus. Unless you bring a Ouija board to my house. I want to

1634
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:18,040
play because then you're uninvited. Okay. I mean, I brought the Ouija board and I want to play it. I just

1635
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:25,240
know that you're not going to. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, thank you. I'll get her to do one. A power of Christ compil 0.

1636
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:35,240
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