Episode 98: Creepy People Chronicles - Volume 5

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Hi friends.

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Hi.

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Welcome to their terrifying and tipsy.

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So I'll start.

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Okay.

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My name is Courtney.

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I love long walks on the beach.

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White wine and I absolutely love scary movies.

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And I'm Stephanie.

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I also love long walks on the beach.

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I love white wine.

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But I absolutely hate scary movies.

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So Stephanie, can I ask you a question?

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Please, why in the hell would you want to watch scary movies and do a podcast on scary movies

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when you hate them?

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Oh, that's easy because you forced me.

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That's true.

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But you know what?

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There's wine.

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Yeah, so I'm basically only here for the wine.

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That's a lot of wine.

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We're going to need it.

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Well, since we have very different feelings about scary movies, we decided to share our

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emotional struggles with you all.

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So grab a glass of wine, your favorite couch blanket, and get comfy and enjoy the ride with

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us.

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Head over to tipsypod.com.

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Cheers!

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You guys, we're back.

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And don't worry, we did get more wine.

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Well, of course.

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[Music]

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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I told Caitlyn to start.

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And then as soon as she opened her mouth, I said it first.

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If that's even your real name, I was just trying to pull a prank on you.

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Well, I hated it.

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The look on your face was worth it.

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It was pretty funny.

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Well, hi creepy people.

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Oh, hi.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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This is PNW Haunts and Homicides.

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It is.

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And we are doing another CPC.

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What's that stand for?

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Because we like, you know, what are those things?

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Acronyms?

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We like acronyms around here.

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What CPC stand for?

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Creepy people

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Chronicles?

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Oh, yeah.

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That's where you guys write us.

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Some creepy stories about paranormal shit or murder or witchy shit or any kind of crime.

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Any kind of murder.

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A witchy murder.

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A ghost murder.

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A ghost crime.

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Murder ghost.

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Anything.

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All of it.

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You write us and you tell us about it.

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And then we read it back to you.

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[Laughter]

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That's how that works.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, do you want to start us off?

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All right.

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So our first listener story, creepy chronicle is from Brandy.

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Hi, Brandy.

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Hello.

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That's just how I greet people.

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Sorry, Brandy.

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Don't be afraid.

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She says, "Hey, creepy ladies.

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Gals.

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Friends."

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Okay.

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So she's on my level today.

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Brandy is also wrong for her to be.

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She says, "Ugh, I hate introduction, so let me just dive right in."

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Sounds perfect.

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Sounds perfect.

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Yes.

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Definitely, friends.

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Yeah.

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Creepy friends.

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We are CPC bath stays.

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I have two stories I can share.

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The first is of a horrific murderer who terrorized Christmas in 1987.

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Why would you terrorize Christmas?

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I just, that's really rude.

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Please don't.

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Like Santa sees you when you're sleeping.

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He knows when you're murdering.

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He sure does.

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Yeah.

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Of course, I can't give you first-hand experience with this tale, as I was only one, and only worried

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about terrorizing my own family in the middle of the night.

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That's a good way to put it.

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That's okay.

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We don't hold it against you.

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I'm glad you don't have first-hand experience.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Cassie, coming in clutch with the thing you should say.

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This well-known always gets the locals to gossiping killer was Ronald Gene Simmons.

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God damn it.

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I don't like him.

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You don't.

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I really don't.

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I really don't.

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It's okay.

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We'll go into it probably for another day.

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It's in Gene Simmons like a musician.

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Yeah.

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He's from Kiss.

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Oh, right.

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Yeah.

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He's the guy.

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Quit ruining Kiss for me.

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Okay.

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Listen.

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You're over there worried about Kiss.

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And I'm like, you guys, but Christmas.

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They go hand in hand.

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Kiss is Christmas.

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Missile Toe.

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Every Kiss begins with Kay.

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Exactly.

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So if you think about it, they're connected.

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Simmons terrorized our small town of 1500 over the span of seven days.

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He started his murderous acts at home where he shot his son and daughter-in-law before

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strangling his wife and later that day strangling four daughters and another son.

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Oh my God.

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Sweet baby Jesus in the manger.

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I didn't read this.

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I yikes.

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I saw murder and I was like, “Caitlyn can read it."

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Great.

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Thank you.

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That is awful.

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That is not a lot of people in that town.

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No.

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So it's like everybody knows everybody.

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So that's like huge.

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I mean, okay.

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So think about this.

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This is one, two, three, seven, eight people.

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That's not an insignificant portion of their population.

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Like only in a small town.

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Could you actually accomplish something like that?

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Simons then waited with their corpses.

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Still in the house.

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Talk about twisted, Brandy says.

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And I'm inclined to agree.

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Oh my God.

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No, this is so terrible.

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He shot his son and daughter-in-law then drowned the small child.

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Why wouldn't he just, but drowning a child?

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Okay.

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Like why?

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Like that's something we just hear in child cases far too frequently.

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And there's something so specifically horrifying about it because they're so vulnerable.

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I know.

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Okay.

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Well, like you shot everyone else, right?

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Right.

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So it's like you have to inflict like this maximum fear in the person who is least

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positioned to protect themselves.

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I guess he did do the strangling to the other ones.

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That is nice.

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Yeah.

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Perfect.

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Well, and it is interesting too because you don't see very often where a serial will change

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their ammo like that.

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It's like he's just trying out different things.

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Right.

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Right.

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No, really.

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Okay.

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Well, happy anniversary to me.

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After the murders, Simmons went for a drink in a local bar, then returned to the house,

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and apparently oblivious to the corpses lined up around him, spent the rest of the evening

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and the following day drinking beer and watching television.

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I don't think he was oblivious.

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However, I do think he clearly must not be afraid of ghosts because I would already be

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afraid those people would be haunting the shit out of him.

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That's a lot of people.

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That's entirely too many.

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On the morning of Monday, December 28th, Simmons drove into Russellville and at a local

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law office, shot dead the receptionist, a young woman named Kathy Kendrick, with whom he had

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been infatuated and who had rejected him.

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I don't know, man, like maybe that had something to do with the fact that you had a wife.

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So gross.

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That is disgusting.

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He next went to an oil company office where he shot dead a man named JD Chaffin and wounded

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the owner, Rusty Taylor, and then drove onto a convenience store where he had previously

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worked, shooting and wounding two more people.

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Wow.

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Like, I thought it was a lot in the beginning and then he just keeps going and going and going.

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I think at this point, I'm remembering that he really wouldn't technically be considered

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a serial killer.

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He would be classified as a spree killer, which is kind of, now there's so many classifications

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just because of how differently these types of crimes can be executed, whereas like a mass

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shooting.

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Yeah.

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I mean, totally different kinds of crimes and they're all horrific, but I'm just like, ugh.

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The spree killer really throws me for a loop, though.

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And I just feel like that's really, and I mean, obviously this person has lost control

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just totally.

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It's so scary.

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Afterwards, he went to the office of the Woodline Motor Freight Company where he shot

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and wounded a woman ending his killing spree.

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Which, how did he know this person?

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Why is he, ugh.

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Yeah.

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Does he like know all of these people?

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I don't get it.

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The men simply sat in the office and chatted to one of the secretaries whilst waiting for

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the police.

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What?

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So, can you imagine?

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Ugh.

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No.

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When they arrived, he handed over his gun and surrendered without any resistance.

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To say that there haven't been many tales stretched from this incident would be a bold

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facelie.

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Uh, I mean, yeah.

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You could see that coming.

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Small town.

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Yeah.

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Yes, the teens of the 90s often dared one another to touch crazy Simmons land.

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I almost said Simpsons.

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I don't know why.

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No, not the don't bring the Simpsons into this.

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I know.

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I'm so sorry.

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Well, others thought it was a good idea to do a seance.

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No.

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You guys.

273
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I do it.

274
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Oh my god.

275
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Never.

276
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Hashtag never Bundy and hashtag never a Simmons.

277
00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:49,120
That would be kind of a really dark place to do one that's icky.

278
00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,760
You are inviting some really dark stuff to come and hang out with you, I think.

279
00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,840
I would like to say I was not one of the one of these crazy teens, but again, I would be

280
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lying.

281
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,840
Oh, Brandy.

282
00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,840
Brandy.

283
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,480
Oh my goodness.

284
00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,480
Oh.

285
00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,440
Oh god.

286
00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,680
Every person has that story of like just like the dumb stuff you did as a kid.

287
00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:12,960
Did anything ever happen?

288
00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360
I guess she might have told us if it didn't.

289
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,360
Okay.

290
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,360
I guess we'll find out.

291
00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,360
Maybe.

292
00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:25,760
Here's a nice little link to learn all about the mess that was Ronald Gene Simmons.

293
00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,280
I'm clicking it.

294
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,200
She's clicking on it.

295
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,200
Oh my god.

296
00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,200
What?

297
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:37,080
He kind of looks like if Krampus and Santa had an ugly baby.

298
00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,080
What?

299
00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,080
Look.

300
00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,000
No.

301
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,520
It's coming closer.

302
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,520
No.

303
00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,000
That's him.

304
00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,000
That's him.

305
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,000
Bad Santa.

306
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000
Bad Santa.

307
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,520
A very bad Santa indeed.

308
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,640
Eek.

309
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,320
My next creepy story would be about the Dover Lights.

310
00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,320
Oh.

311
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,280
I don't know if I know what that is.

312
00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,560
I don't exactly know any specifics, but I've heard of them.

313
00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,560
Okay.

314
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:13,760
This urban legend has been around my area for decades.

315
00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,400
The mysterious lights that haunt the valley.

316
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,400
Interesting.

317
00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,400
How do...

318
00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,400
Okay.

319
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,840
Well, I'm just going to read it because I don't know.

320
00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,680
And we're going to find out.

321
00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,880
Probably aliens.

322
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:32,480
I grew up obsessed with this legend and even wrote a fictional novel about it deep in

323
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,880
Deep in the hollow.

324
00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,880
Holy shit you guys.

325
00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,800
We're in the presence of...

326
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,120
Yet again, another author.

327
00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,200
Oh man, we're going to have to read that.

328
00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,200
I know.

329
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,200
Yesterday.

330
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,880
Woo!

331
00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920
There are many tales about what these lights are.

332
00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,920
But the most famous is the light of the conquistadors.

333
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,920
Ooh.

334
00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,120
What is that?

335
00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,480
Many say they are haunting the valley in search of their gold.

336
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,680
I mean, it's like so conquistadors.

337
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,680
Yeah.

338
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:13,240
I mean, if you shine a light and yell you have their gold, they'll flash across the mountain

339
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,200
to come for you.

340
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:21,160
I mean, I think it goes without saying, but I really don't want anyone to do this.

341
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,040
I think we should take our fake gold pots out there.

342
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,360
Or leprechaun pots.

343
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360
Oh no.

344
00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,000
They kind of remind me of leprechauns.

345
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000
Yeah.

346
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,400
Do you think they're kind of the same type of thing?

347
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,400
I...

348
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,600
I'm tempted to think no.

349
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,920
Brandy says, "I've seen these lights a few times myself, and no, I wasn't drinking," which

350
00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,320
is often the first thing asked when skeptics hear these tales.

351
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,920
Okay, well, listen.

352
00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:00,080
I've had my fair share of Rosé all day, and I've never seen mysterious flashing lights.

353
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,520
So people that question you about whether you were drinking or not, doesn't...

354
00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,400
Drinking doesn't make you see flashing lights.

355
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,760
Just FYI.

356
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,760
If you do, you should probably see someone.

357
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,360
Yeah, maybe go to a doctor.

358
00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:19,160
Seek medical attention.

359
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,480
They are rather fascinating lights, and I'm proud to say that I've not only seen them,

360
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,680
but I've also sat with scientists who were there trying to figure out what they were.

361
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,680
Not sure that they ever did.

362
00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,680
Wow.

363
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,480
Brandy, you're like fancy as fuck.

364
00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,920
That is really cool.

365
00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,680
She's basically a doctor.

366
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,040
She writes books and chills out with scientists, so...

367
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,400
Brandy, can we come with you to see the lights?

368
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:56,000
We'll give you an honorary degree, a doctorate from creepy people chronicles you.

369
00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,120
Here's a link to one of the theories known as the Dover Lights.

370
00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,480
Thanks for all the fun you two have and the stories you share.

371
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,920
You sure make my long commute more bearable.

372
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,920
Oh.

373
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,920
Are you sure?

374
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,920
Yeah.

375
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,120
Yeah, be careful, you know.

376
00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:17,200
Boop.

377
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,320
Stay safe, but always creepy.

378
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,320
Brandy.

379
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,720
PS, I suck at closings as well.

380
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,320
You don't suck at anything.

381
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,200
Brandy, you don't ever have to apologize.

382
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,200
You're a doctor.

383
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,440
Yeah, and an author.

384
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,560
You graduated from creepy people chronicles you.

385
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,560
So...

386
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560
I think you're Dr. Brandy.

387
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,560
Dr. Brandy.

388
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,560
Yeah.

389
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,440
So this one is a little bit different.

390
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:47,080
We read the story from Brandy and then we're going to play you two separate interviews,

391
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:52,840
one from Kirsten Weiss, the author of the Tea and Tarot series.

392
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,440
I'm looking at Caitlyn because I wasn't there.

393
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,440
I know.

394
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,800
Cassie was dreadfully ill and she's...

395
00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,800
And pissed.

396
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,800
Yeah.

397
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,800
That was really upset.

398
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,800
Yeah.

399
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,640
But I know, I know because when you started editing, you texted me and you were like, holy

400
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,640
shit.

401
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,640
This is so good.

402
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,640
I'm so mad.

403
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,640
I missed it.

404
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,640
We have to do it again.

405
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,640
Yeah.

406
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,920
So I wanted to know if she had any paranormal experiences and she did.

407
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,880
So we will be adding that to this episode.

408
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:32,240
And then we also recently did a Tarot Read for one of our new Patreon members and she had

409
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,080
some spooky stories as well that we're going to add.

410
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080
Yes.

411
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,840
And some hot tips on some tasty booze.

412
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,840
Oh yeah.

413
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,360
That may or may not be featured in the upcoming Prohibition Crimes.

414
00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:49,360
Oh yeah.

415
00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,360
Patreon live.

416
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,360
Yes.

417
00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,360
And she got a whole Tarot reading that we're probably going to post on Patreon.

418
00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:57,360
Yeah.

419
00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,360
I think so.

420
00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:59,360
Yeah.

421
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,600
So we're not doing separate Tarot readings for their two stories.

422
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,960
They already had their own Tarot readings that were separate from that.

423
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,320
So we just decided to include those today because they're fun.

424
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,560
And we want you guys to hear it.

425
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,560
Yeah.

426
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560
Yeah.

427
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:20,400
I think particularly with Kirsten's interview, we already kind of let that cat out of the

428
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,680
bag so that we could talk about her book before it came out.

429
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,360
Obviously, we wanted to help her promote, if we could.

430
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:36,240
And I felt like it was going to run really long if we included all of her stories.

431
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,960
So we kind of broke it off.

432
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,960
And I thought that'd be kind of fun.

433
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,840
A fun little thing to kind of switch it up a little bit with the creepy people.

434
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,840
Chronicles.

435
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,840
Yeah.

436
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,680
Ooh, I wonder if we could have people send in like if they want to do a voice thing telling

437
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,400
their story.

438
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,040
I mean, they totally could.

439
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,040
You can if you want.

440
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,040
Yeah.

441
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,040
We'll throw it in here.

442
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080
If you don't want to hear our voices read it.

443
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,080
Yeah.

444
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,080
Which some days I really get that.

445
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,080
Right.

446
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,080
I know.

447
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,080
Tarot?

448
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,080
Tarot.

449
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,080
Okay.

450
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080
I'm shuffling.

451
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,080
Shufflay.

452
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Trumendus.

453
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,080
Okay.

454
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:31,480
We're pulling a card for Brandy's story.

455
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,720
Brandy.

456
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,120
About the kiss.

457
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,800
Christmas murders.

458
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,040
And I mean, that was the bulk of the story.

459
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,560
She had the Dover lights.

460
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,560
But I feel like.

461
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,560
Oh.

462
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,080
What do we get?

463
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,360
We got the five of swords in reverse.

464
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,360
Oh, yeah.

465
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,800
Which is I could have told you what it was.

466
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760
It's a little owl.

467
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,880
And we're going to look in the book and see what kind of owl.

468
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,200
Oh, I turned right to it.

469
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,200
Oh.

470
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680
I mean, there was a couple of flips in there.

471
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,000
It's a northern spotted owl.

472
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
She pretty.

473
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000
In a humble flying squirrel.

474
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000
Oh.

475
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000
Where?

476
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760
She has a squirrel in his mouth.

477
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,560
No.

478
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,600
That's kind of disturbing.

479
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,120
Unhand that squirrel.

480
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:29,000
I mean, I know it's nature, but.

481
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Oh.

482
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,440
When we're talking about murder here.

483
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,440
Yeah.

484
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,440
Well then.

485
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,960
All right.

486
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:45,800
So five of swords, our keywords are change, adjustment, loss, destruction, conflict,

487
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,760
indecision and sadness.

488
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,760
Wow.

489
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,400
I have different ones here.

490
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:58,880
They're kind of along the same lines, but this one says aggression, conflict, hostility,

491
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,680
ambition, defeat, and or winning at any cost.

492
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:11,200
Eek, which I'm like ambition and aggression are kind of, sounds a lot like this gene

493
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,520
Simmons guy.

494
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Yeah.

495
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:19,920
The number five signifies change and this card shows a time of adjustment after a conflict

496
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
of some kind.

497
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Sometimes the fight stems from ideological or spiritual differences.

498
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,200
The writer, weight Smith, Aquarian and some other decks show a soldier on the battlefield

499
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680
at the end of a fight.

500
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,600
The card asks, what have you won or lost?

501
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Yikes.

502
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Wow.

503
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:51,440
That is kind of like, because he left this trail of bodies behind him, I feel like.

504
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,680
On the battlefield.

505
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,680
Eek.

506
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,680
I don't like that.

507
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,680
No.

508
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Okay.

509
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,360
And I did draw this in the reverse.

510
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,360
Yes.

511
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:08,360
Reverse the five suggests pretty much the same thing as it does upright.

512
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:16,000
When the card appears reversed in a reading, however, you may feel a great sense of remorse,

513
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,480
regret or unhappiness.

514
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:25,080
Sometimes it shows you making repairs or reparations after a conflict, trying to set things

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,680
right and learning from your suffering.

516
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,520
Hmm.

517
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:39,360
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that probably this poor community has taken

518
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,240
away some really hard lessons from this.

519
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,240
Yeah.

520
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,720
That whole situation.

521
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,720
Wow.

522
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,720
I can't.

523
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,960
I kind of want to hear more about what happened after I can help.

524
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,960
Yeah.

525
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,080
I'm waiting on it.

526
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,000
I'm going to read you the upright though since it leans into that they're very much the

527
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
same.

528
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Okay.

529
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:10,520
The five of swords symbolizes the devastation of war and recommends using diplomacy to resolve

530
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,600
problems.

531
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,920
After a battle, you realize fighting isn't the best way to settle disputes.

532
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,560
The cost of winning may not be worth the losses you've endured.

533
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,360
Yeah, like maybe don't kill a girl because she doesn't like you.

534
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,640
I mean, yeah, definitely, definitely that.

535
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,640
Wow.

536
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:41,280
That is just creepy and I'm just going to read from this in a reading about love.

537
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,520
This card says you won't get what you want by arguing.

538
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,080
Partful words can't be taken back.

539
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,600
Try to resolve problems amicably, honestly and fairly.

540
00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:02,200
You may have to make some changes in order to improve a situation.

541
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Try to resolve differences without drawing swords or guns or hands.

542
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Oh my goodness.

543
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000
Wow.

544
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,120
Yeah, I'm not even going to read the three interpretation parts because I just, I feel

545
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:25,680
like we've got exactly what we need out of this card for that case and you guys' violence

546
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,840
is not the answer.

547
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Never.

548
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,520
I kind of want to read this.

549
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,640
It sounds kind of cool.

550
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,640
I don't know if it relates, but I kind of want to read it.

551
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,640
Do it.

552
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,640
It sounds cute.

553
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:47,840
So from our little PNW tarot book, it says, a quick series of flaps and then silence, a

554
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,840
shadow momentarily eclipsing a silver, yeah, eclipsing a sliver of moonlight, the intangible

555
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,360
feeling of a sharp eyed stare from above.

556
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:03,760
The squirrel never stood a chance, really.

557
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,720
Eek.

558
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,880
I'm sorry, I got like the chills reading this and I got my eye fixed so I have no excuse anymore.

559
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Oh my God.

560
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,680
She was perched upon a springy limb, plotting the fastest route home to her leaf filled nest.

561
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Oh my gosh.

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,240
She readied her jump crouching down and tensing her muscles.

563
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,800
This is like giving me the hibi gb's this whole thing.

564
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Instead of launching forward, she lifted up, carried aloft by the razor talons under her

565
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,640
silent wings.

566
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720
There was no pain, only shock.

567
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,360
No, oh my God.

568
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,840
No hope of fighting back, only total defeat.

569
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,240
The battle was over before she even knew what was happening.

570
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Wow.

571
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,280
For the owl, it was a single meal.

572
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Sustonance for an evening, unremarkable and soon forgotten.

573
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,640
Oh, yikes.

574
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,640
Okay.

575
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Well, I'm shaking.

576
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,640
I'm not gonna.

577
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Yeah, so that's crazy.

578
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,680
It was all about like this owl attacking this little innocent squirrel basically and that's

579
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,560
kind of what it was meant for.

580
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Yeah.

581
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Ooh.

582
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040
Well, we pulled a good card.

583
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,040
What do you guys think?

584
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,880
Brandy, what do you think?

585
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,640
You can let us know what you think.

586
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,640
Yeah.

587
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Oh my goodness.

588
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Because maybe she sees more similarities like that we don't know about.

589
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Yeah.

590
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Yeah.

591
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,560
So let us know.

592
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Oh my goodness.

593
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,840
I'm honestly still not sure what to make of it.

594
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:53,040
So it was about five years ago, there was a total solar eclipse going over Oregon.

595
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760
And so my sister and I drove up to Oregon and met some friends to see the eclipse.

596
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,720
And when we drove back, we decided to go along to the Oregon and California coast because

597
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,640
it's gorgeous spectacular.

598
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Yeah.

599
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Well, so we're all the other Californians who've gone up for the eclipse.

600
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,400
So the road was just packed and it was really a grind getting home.

601
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,880
And when we finally got to the shopping point, we'll take whatever hotels available, which

602
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,640
ended up being kind of tired old hotel on the coast.

603
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,720
And when we watched the room, I immediately got this kind of feeling because it was kind

604
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,720
of messy.

605
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,640
And I was just thinking, well, I mean, it was clean, but it was old and it was messy.

606
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,560
And so I thought, okay, that's why I'm getting that feeling, not that it's haunted or anything.

607
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Okay.

608
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,560
That makes sense.

609
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Yeah.

610
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Of course.

611
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160
So that's not my right inch like that.

612
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Anyways, so we had to get up really early the next morning and my sister hates getting

613
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,960
up really early.

614
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,200
So I was kind of dreading that experience.

615
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:54,120
And I woke up and the room was really dark and the layout was, there was two queen beds

616
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,120
and off.

617
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120
I was farthest from the door.

618
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,360
And then beyond my bed, there was a little like area with a sink and then there was the

619
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,080
area with the toilet, which was enclosed with the door.

620
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,080
And so I was lying in bed wondering what time it was and my phone was charging way on the

621
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,080
other side of the room.

622
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,600
So I do, if I get up and look at the phone, then I'm going to be really awake and if it's

623
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520
4 a.m., I'm never going to get back to sleep again.

624
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,280
So maybe I should just ignore it and wait for the stupid thoughts to go in your head when

625
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,320
it's 6 a.m. and dark and your mind isn't really thinking that well.

626
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,080
So I'm thinking, thinking, thinking.

627
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,320
And the room is dark enough.

628
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,600
It was very, it was very dark.

629
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360
I could see the shapes of things, but I couldn't see any definition.

630
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,600
So nothing was three-dimensional.

631
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:42,280
I could see the rectangle of the television on a bigger rectangle of the media stand, but

632
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
I get no dimensionality.

633
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,840
Okay.

634
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,640
So I see the silhouette of my sister get up from bed, her bed, and cross in front of my

635
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,200
bed and go towards the bathroom.

636
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,160
And I'm thinking, oh, fantastic.

637
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Amazingly, she's awake.

638
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,200
When she comes out of the bathroom, I can ask her to check my clock and see what time it

639
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,200
is.

640
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,360
So I'm lying there and I'm waiting and I'm waiting.

641
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320
I think, gosh, I realize she's doing really quiet.

642
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,920
I haven't heard any water running.

643
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,160
I haven't heard toilet flush.

644
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,960
I didn't hear the door close.

645
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,960
This fish is.

646
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160
She's, well, she's like, gosh, she's so, she really is.

647
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,160
She's super polite.

648
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400
So she's always really conscientious and trying to not bother people.

649
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Oh my god, she's just amazing.

650
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,640
And then in the bed next to mine, I hear her start to snore.

651
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,640
No.

652
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,640
Yes.

653
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,560
And I was just like paralyzed and fear at that point.

654
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,960
And I didn't think it was a person.

655
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400
I thought it was a ghost because that's where my mind went.

656
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Yeah.

657
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,200
And so I was just lying in bed with my eyes as big.

658
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,920
And then about five minutes later, my alarm did go off and we were out of that hotel

659
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,920
so fast.

660
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920
And I was like, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to tell you about 20 miles down the road.

661
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,920
What I'd seen.

662
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Oh my god.

663
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,920
She was super mad.

664
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360
She's like, there could have been a man in the room and you didn't wake me up.

665
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360
I was like, it wasn't a man.

666
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,360
It was a ghost.

667
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,360
That's not a man.

668
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Well, the, well, the identity of this story is that last autumn, the same sister and I

669
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
are at another hotel in Florida.

670
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Same sort of setup.

671
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,840
We're in a, a suite.

672
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Two queen beds.

673
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,960
And then, but I'm close to the door and she's close to the bathroom area.

674
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
So the setup is the bedroom.

675
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,680
You go through a really short haul with a bathroom off to the side and then beyond that, there's

676
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,680
a little sort of kitchenette living area and then the balcony.

677
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,680
So I'm lying in bed.

678
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Once again, I woke it up early wondering what time it is.

679
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,240
And I see her get up from the bed and silently leave the room.

680
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,360
And I was like, okay, this time I'm getting my butt out of bed to see what's going on.

681
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360
So I jump out of bed and I'm looking, I'm trying to look at the bed.

682
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,360
She was in.

683
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360
And I'm like, pal, I cover this and I know enough, I'm not going to, I'm not going to poke

684
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040
it to see if she's there because I'm just not going to do it.

685
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Yeah.

686
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
No, I didn't.

687
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840
So I looked, bathroom's empty.

688
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160
I looked at the other room, which was that big and it was empty.

689
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,880
So I think a friend of mine, when I told her the story after the eclipse, she said, she's

690
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,280
probably astral projecting.

691
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Oh my goodness.

692
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,280
No.

693
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,960
It was a ghost because the whole room had that total if, you know, vibe had to have been

694
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,120
a ghost.

695
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,120
But then after what happened in Florida, I'm thinking maybe she was astral projecting because

696
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,840
certain it sound like it.

697
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Yeah, we couldn't have been in two haunted hotel rooms with ghosts that decided to close the

698
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,240
next time I sister.

699
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,240
That would just be too weird.

700
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Yeah.

701
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,360
I feel like that's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

702
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,360
I don't know.

703
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Yeah, I think she was astral projecting.

704
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,640
Of course, she doesn't believe in any of that stuff.

705
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,640
So she finds the idea really irritating and she will not be listening to this podcast.

706
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
So I'll tell you anyways.

707
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,640
There you go.

708
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,880
We're in on the secret.

709
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,880
That's so funny.

710
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,720
She's the one doing it and she doesn't believe it.

711
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Yeah.

712
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,120
I mean, I don't know how else to explain it and I was definitely awake those times.

713
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Right.

714
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960
You were thinking, no, it's not me imagining it.

715
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,800
I'd like to be able to comfort you in that way, but not so much.

716
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Yeah.

717
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,800
It wasn't a dream.

718
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Yeah.

719
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,000
Now my phone is for battery.

720
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Oh my gosh.

721
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680
You're like, how can I just like not have anything remain charged?

722
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,680
I don't know.

723
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,200
My life was you being haunted.

724
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,200
I'm alright.

725
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,120
And I literally was like, I definitely am.

726
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,720
I've got some really good stories.

727
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:20,720
Oh snap.

728
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:25,280
Let's just say his name is Carl.

729
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Carl?

730
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,280
Carl.

731
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,280
Oh, and Carl.

732
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,280
Carl.

733
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,280
That's no stop.

734
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,280
That's a tough life.

735
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,280
Don't call him.

736
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,280
My husband.

737
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:42,920
We were open in our bedroom and the door kept like opening and closing and you could see

738
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,920
the nod.

739
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,800
You know, you know about Carl.

740
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,600
And so sitting there, I'm like, oh, it's this Carl.

741
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,240
And you know, it's at me goes, who the hell is Carl?

742
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:51,240
Mike, it's just the ghost.

743
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:53,080
He's been, I've been sensitive since I was little.

744
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,280
He's been with me this whole time.

745
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,080
It's like my guardian angel ghost to mess with me.

746
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,880
And he goes, that's not funny.

747
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,840
And I'm like, no, I'm being serious because the door is just like, obviously it's not.

748
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,320
It's open, close, open, close.

749
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520
I mean, we went on for like 15 minutes.

750
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Wow.

751
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Like this is really getting stupid.

752
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
I'm like, Carl, we knock it off.

753
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,040
This is getting really annoying.

754
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,520
And the door opened all the way and then just slammed.

755
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,520
And he hopped out of the chair.

756
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,920
He's like, nope, I'm the fuck out of here.

757
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,760
You ran out of the door.

758
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Oh my god.

759
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,280
Kate, let me do the same thing.

760
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,280
Yeah.

761
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,280
Yeah.

762
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160
My kids joke about Carl the time now too.

763
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
He's done a lot.

764
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,960
He's funny.

765
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Oh, that's awesome.

766
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,160
I think.

767
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
He's a prankster.

768
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,160
And everybody on the farm where my family lives is always like, oh, Carl's been here today.

769
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160
I love that.

770
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Oh my god.

771
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Meanwhile, I'm like, okay, well, it's been nice knowing you guys.

772
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600
I have to leave the country and change my name.

773
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,400
Oh, that's fun.

774
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Goodbye forever.

775
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Oh my god.

776
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,440
She's very skeptical about it.

777
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280
But the other day she actually left.

778
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,280
She writes a Harley.

779
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,800
She jumped on her Harley and left because it was that bad.

780
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,200
We were talking about how Carl's been messing with us because I went in the bathroom and the

781
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,440
sink was on like full blast.

782
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,800
I showed it off when that guy was on full blast again.

783
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,320
And then my brother who lives at the farm was like, hey, have you been here today?

784
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,160
I'm like, no, he's like, well, I came in like four times and turned off all the lights

785
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,680
and lights to be back on when I came in.

786
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,360
I'm like, it's just Carl.

787
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,040
It looks to me and she goes, you're so stupid.

788
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,040
And then off the button.

789
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640
I mean, the TV remote sitting like right in front of us.

790
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,640
We can all stay at it.

791
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,360
The TV turns on and turns up all the way.

792
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,800
And I was like, Carl, knock it off and the TV turns off.

793
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,800
And she gets up.

794
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,800
She's like, I'm not doing this today.

795
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Goodbye.

796
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,800
Oh my god.

797
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,800
That's so funny.

798
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,800
She sounds like she's doing that.

799
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,840
That's so, just gets on her Harley and drives away.

800
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,840
All right.

801
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,440
Well, apparently I need to Harley now.

802
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Yeah.

803
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:03,280
Oh, and there's a haunted house too.

804
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,280
That makes sense.

805
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Oh, of course there is.

806
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Oh, it's so fun.

807
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,080
It's in the middle of like Yamhill.

808
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,720
It's middle of nowhere in the country.

809
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,120
And it's on a big hill.

810
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,520
So you've got the score just view.

811
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,160
And it's like a 1,800, like Victorian house.

812
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,760
Oh, the top floor is the most haunted.

813
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,760
I've had my phone start charging out of nowhere.

814
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,760
What?

815
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,160
Yeah, light will be on.

816
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Just fine.

817
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,480
You go in them, like start flickering.

818
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Oh my gosh.

819
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,440
My, my mom's had like, like her phone start randomly calling people, like just randomly.

820
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,240
A lot of device stuff.

821
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:43,840
We used to have a border callee and he was my mom's like PTSD service dog type thing.

822
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,520
He was with her all the time, but he would refuse to go upstairs and he would lay out

823
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,480
the floor and cry like downstairs while we were cleaning up there.

824
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,480
Oh my gosh.

825
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,720
And it's very, very last of us.

826
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:56,720
Yeah.

827
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,720
And cold spots galore.

828
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:02,160
I mean, you walk in there's one bedroom that's really bad and it's always so cold compared

829
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,320
to the rest of the house.

830
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,320
I've seen my breath in there before.

831
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,320
I love it.

832
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,840
Ooh, that's so creepy.

833
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,840
I want to go.

834
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,840
It's like, I'm going.

835
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,840
Is it open to the public?

836
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,400
No, but I can't get you to her.

837
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,920
She's like, I know again.

838
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,920
That's connections.

839
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,400
I have to eat something.

840
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
It's like the middle of the night we all speak into this haunted house and do a Ouija board.

841
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Yes.

842
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000
No, no, no, Ouija boards.

843
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Come on, guys.

844
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000
No.

845
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,680
I know how to get my mom to listen to the podcast now though, because I've got a guilty confession

846
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
because I hate Ouija board.

847
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Sorry, I'm doing this just social listen.

848
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Okay, we'll make sure we put it in.

849
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,120
We love it.

850
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,120
I hate Ouija boards.

851
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,120
You do not mess around with that energy.

852
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Know what's going to come out.

853
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,320
Don't know what's going to happen.

854
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,840
So she has been continuously making jokes about how she's going to do a stay on her house

855
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,640
because of Carl the Goose.

856
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,640
She wouldn't stop.

857
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,800
I mean, I was getting really annoying.

858
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,120
I bought a Ouija board.

859
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,360
My head had it sit there with no return label or anything.

860
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,400
No, who sent it or anything.

861
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,400
So she's sitting there.

862
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Who sent me a Ouija board?

863
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Everybody said, no, didn't touch it.

864
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Let me.

865
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
She's like, it was you, wasn't it?

866
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,040
No, I wouldn't do that.

867
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,040
What are you talking about?

868
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,040
No, it was me.

869
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
It's only been like a year.

870
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Oh my god.

871
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,040
You kept that secret for a year.

872
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
I kept that secret for a year.

873
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Oh my god.

874
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
I mean, I'm sure I revealed it on our pod.

875
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Yes.

876
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
I have no idea.

877
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,880
And now I'm like, holy shit.

878
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,080
I'm a petty bitch.

879
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,080
I will be confused.

880
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,080
You do stuff to irritate me.

881
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,080
I will be petty.

882
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,080
No.

883
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,280
I would argue that's not petty at all.

884
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Like, that's just an example of like fuck around and find out.

885
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Yeah.

886
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,560
But I work at, I work at you and young distillery.

887
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,200
And if you guys want to look on history, you should look up the history of you and young.

888
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,720
Is it haunted too?

889
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:00,720
Well, well, okay.

890
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,040
So our distillery is actually where he settled.

891
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,920
He was Oregon's first settler before it was even a territory.

892
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,760
And so he settled on the property that we're at.

893
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,000
And he brought the Scottish Highland paddle, which are like the little short guys with

894
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,320
little tiny horns at all furry.

895
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,040
And he was a fur trapper and then he was Oregon's first settler.

896
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,600
And he's actually buried out underneath the tree on our property.

897
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,800
And there's a massive oak tree where he's buried.

898
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,120
And I don't know if you've ever heard of shampooy park, but that's where they held his service

899
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,600
and his best friend, Amanda Bailey, took a corn from there and she put it in his grave

900
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
and that's why the tree is there.

901
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,960
But we've actually had ghost hunters come out because our tree is haunted.

902
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,720
And they've actually got indications of three children that they think are his grandchildren

903
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,800
or great-grandchildren and mom, tireless sure what it was.

904
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,760
But they actually recently just came back out into the second, like an EVP recording session.

905
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,760
Oh, cool.

906
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,760
So it's fun.

907
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,760
It's fun.

908
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,760
Yes, yes.

909
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,760
Yes.

910
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Oh, it's outside.

911
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,640
And I kind of oddly feel like those can't really do anything to me outside.

912
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,760
So I want to go to there.

913
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,760
Okay.

914
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,760
I'm going to open Saturdays and Sundays.

915
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,360
One time she's like, see you there.

916
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,360
Is everyone here that?

917
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,360
Bailey wants to go to a haunted place.

918
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:30,440
No one's going to hear this because this is going to be the slice that we save for when

919
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,760
we talk about the distillery.

920
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,760
Okay.

921
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Bring a picnic because we don't have food and not feel like pretzels.

922
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,000
But we've got like cornhole, axe throwing, a big, beautiful pond on a race horse farm.

923
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Pretty cool.

924
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Oh my gosh, that sounds fun.

925
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Yeah, we definitely need to plan a trip.

926
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Okay.

927
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,200
I have one more thing.

928
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,200
Sorry.

929
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,200
I've been growing a little bit.

930
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,200
So do you know how I tell your voices apart?

931
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,200
How?

932
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200
I'm curious.

933
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Caitlin sounds like Selena Gomez.

934
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,800
Oh, I do.

935
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,800
You do.

936
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,800
You do.

937
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,800
You do a little.

938
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,800
Wow.

939
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,800
Even like you're last.

940
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,800
Okay.

941
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,000
So like right now in my head, I'm just hearing.

942
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:34,000
and you can launch the intro. Like, "Feel museum." I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Well, I have to go now because I'm actually dead. I died. So I'm dead. I am a ghost now. Okay, Salina. Sing for us. I think not.

943
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Okay, so I'm the page around that message. You about Lafayette. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's episode 34, 35 where you guys did the collab and you were talking about the cemetery. Yeah. Yeah. I love to that one. It was that was the one of the ones that I actually went to. So yeah. So that was fun.

944
00:42:53,000 --> 00:43:22,000
The Lafayette has a lot more history than that which though. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. It was organs like it used to be organs Portland type thing. It had the well, I might river ran through it. And so it was really big back in the day before trains for everything need to be sent by a ship. So they had a big hub there. And so they would go, you know, have everything delivered there. And after the witch died actually. So she cursed town died. Whatever.

945
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Three times. And then she also cursed the town. That's the Atlanta River would dry up. And it did it dried up not portion. And so they built the Lafayette locks trying to. Yeah, trying to get the river to go back. And the river eventually did go back by the by the time that happened.

946
00:43:44,000 --> 00:44:04,000
River tracks were built in Macmindville. I don't know if you know Macmindville. Start booming. Lafayette essentially kind of died out. So Macmindville kind of took Lafayette's thunder because they they river to dry up. And that's why they were so big was because of the river in the shipping.

947
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:20,000
I mean, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I got this. I'm going to tell you guys. I can. I can. No, we love it. Deep into that one because there was four other stories. And I like, you can't just go as deep as you want to with that. Oh, yeah. But.

948
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:33,000
And then like, good to know this history. We can like revisit. You know, and like the museum there is like supposedly haunted because there's a grand piano there. And a girl had gotten it as a gift for I think it was like her 15th or 16th birthday.

949
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:47,000
And for her birthday after she received. I can't talk talking's hard. Receive that piano. She's gone to the organ coast with her friends for a trip. And she actually drowned right after she. And she never came back.

950
00:44:47,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Oh, she got. She got. So that in the ocean. But that piano plays by itself in that. Locky at museum all the time now. Oh my gosh. I think I did read about that. It's kind of fun.

951
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,000
I don't think I included it because it wasn't really part of that story. But it's just a player piano.

952
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:18,000
I've got a couple other recommendations. I'm sorry if I'm taking up too much time. So I grew up in granite and some throw organ.

953
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Okay, okay, middle of nowhere. I mean, I mean, I really. Some first turn down like three times. Yeah. But some first also burnt down. I think at least three or four times. And granite stopped their population.

954
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Stop being on. Stop being on fire. It gets so stressful. But granite has a population. I think of 21 people now. Wow.

955
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:56,000
I mean, I think that I think that it might be more now, but I think in 2017 it was like 21. And kind of a joke about Carl is I.

956
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:04,000
We went to another gold vine. So when I was a kid up there and I'd taken one of the bricks that were from a cave in. And so everybody jokes around.

957
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:10,000
So that brick is what brought Carl my ghost. I have it over here.

958
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:20,000
But it has like a stamp on it. I think it's like W. I was going to say you're going to have to send us a picture of it. That might be it. Yeah, I think so.

959
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,000
Yeah, probably shouldn't have done that. But I was like 10 years old.

960
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Okay. I mean, what did you know? Carl doesn't seem mean. So no, I love Carl.

961
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Like it couldn't have worked out better. If someone had a heart, you know, I feel like you want Carl.

962
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:44,000
So when my parents bought their farm, it's a new bird. They used to be like, I think it was close to 80 acres, but they subdivided it for the family.

963
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:52,000
And on the main property where the parents used to live, which is not where my parents bought like my parents bought a property next to it. That was for their child.

964
00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:01,000
So on the old farm where the parents don't there was a whole really, really racquetty farmhouse.

965
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:08,000
They're grandson and I could come to the original owners. They're grandson would come and stay with them and they still stay on our property sometime.

966
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:15,000
So it was like summertime. It was like 100 degrees out. We were left at the farm alone, or 12 or 13.

967
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:22,000
And we decided to go explore the old abandoned farmhouse next door and they had the cow.

968
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:29,000
And they had like, you see a dairy farm. So they had like all the cow barns and stuff in it and we went to cow barns. They were just too freaky. We were like, I know.

969
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:40,000
So going to house and I don't know, you know, but like in the old, old houses, you know, the really steep stairs that are like, I would lose my breath like two steps up now.

970
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:52,000
But we went up to go to that bedroom. There was only one bedroom going up these really steep stairs and the door we noticed immediately that there was a lock on the outside of the door. Not one on the inside was on the outside.

971
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Oh, that's always no creepy.

972
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Jacob at the time made the joke of what if we got locked in? Ha, ha, ha. Like you're not funny. So we go on the room. We start looking around and there's a pentagram on the floor.

973
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Oh, and we're both like, what is this? And we're like looking at it and then we look in the closet and there's like the game Candyland was set up and then like a blanket like something was laying down and playing Candyland by themselves or something.

974
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
I just played that last night.

975
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Yeah, well, about four games in the closet. And as we're taking all this end, the door slam shut.

976
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:42,000
No, no, I have to go. Why did you play so the room like he said it was shaking. I felt more like a full station type of thing. The Candyland game pieces on the board started like vibrating and moving.

977
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:48,000
And you started crying and he was like sitting in the corner. I mean, this is one of those stories you want to believe it, but we both talk about it.

978
00:48:48,000 --> 00:49:03,000
And we still remember the things, but I mean, it was just when he was crying, I'm trying to figure out how to go to window. The windows are barred and we're two stories up and we're, you know, 12 or 13 years old. I was probably breaking my legs, jumping out the window.

979
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:13,000
And so I'm like, all right, I'm just going to sit over here by him, kind of make him feel better and ride this out and then all of a sudden the doors like freaks open and it's then close and words it open and like, you know what I mean?

980
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:21,000
It doesn't go in the room. It opens out towards the hallway. Yeah. Yeah. And so it doesn't make any sense. Could we see faster?

981
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,000
The door open. I've never needed myself out of building so freaking fast.

982
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Yeah. Why are bars on the window?

983
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,000
I have no clue. And why is there a pentagram on the floor?

984
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:49,000
That to me seems like if it wasn't so rural and even if it it like even though it is that just seems like it's teenagers or, you know, somebody like kind of camping out there using that space.

985
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:56,000
I'm kind of curious. It was, you know, either like you said kid homeless people maybe there is something. Yeah.

986
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Two weeks later that house burnt down for unknown reasons.

987
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Have a creepy ass day. See you next Tuesday.

988
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Or yeah, probably unless we might see sooner who knows? I'll show the squirrel.

989
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Yeah.

990
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,000
Well, I used to like owls.

991
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Oh boy. Okay, we get to go.

992
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:34,000
So for all of you that are listening, if you have any true crime or paranormal stories that you want us to share.

993
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Maybe with a whole Pacific Northwest. Yes. We would love to read them on the pod.

994
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Yes. We will read them out loud.

995
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Not just in our heads. Yes.

996
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:57,000
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997
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:03,000
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998
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:13,000
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999
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:23,000
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1000
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:31,000
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1001
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Bitchin.

1002
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:43,000
[Music]

1003
00:51:43,000 --> 00:52:11,000
[Music]

1004
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:23,000
I'm going to make another playlist. I don't know how many people actually listen to the playlist but I enjoy making them.

1005
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:29,000
You do you. If it makes you, if it makes you happy.

1006
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:35,000
That is another pain. You're welcome. This is happening.