May 6, 2025

Deadly Domestic Violence in Vancouver: Meshay & Layla

Deadly Domestic Violence in Vancouver: Meshay & Layla

In March 2023, Meshay Melendez and her daughter Layla Stewart disappeared from Vancouver, Washington. Despite multiple red flags and an active no-contact order, Meshay’s abusive ex-boyfriend, Kirkland Warren, was free — with devastating consequences....

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In March 2023,Meshay Melendezand her daughterLayla Stewartdisappeared from Vancouver, Washington. Despite multiple red flags and an active no-contact order, Meshay’s abusive ex-boyfriend,Kirkland Warren, was free — with devastating consequences. In this heart-wrenching episode, we uncover the tragic story of Meshay Melendez and her 7-year-old daughter, Layla Stewart, whose lives were cut short. This case shines a light on the cracks in the system when it comes to domestic violence protections and the urgent need for systemic change and nuanced dialogue that produce real change.

Join us as we trace the chilling timeline:

  • Meshay’s turbulent history with Warren, including prior domestic violence.
  • Court decisions that left Warren free despite extreme risk assessments.
  • The heartbreaking discovery of Meshay and Layla’s bodies.
  • Warren’s shocking criminal past, his manipulation of the legal system, and the final sentencing.
⚠ If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233), text "START" to 88788, or visit thehotline.org.

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It isn't just a true crime story. It's a timeline

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of heartbreak, a story of a mother, a daughter, and

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a system that seemed to have every opportunity to prevent

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their deaths and didn't. What happened to them is horrifying,

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But what's equally chilling is how much could have been prevented.

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We tell ourselves that we have systems in place to

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help prevent these tragedies in our communities.

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Hey, Cassie, Hey Caitlin, Hi, creepy people.

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Hey, this is PNW Hans and Homicides, where we chat

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about true crime, also haunted stuff, you know, kind of

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any who's all in where in the Pacific Northwest?

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them what the PNW means. I just won't know.

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forgot the one thing.

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At the end of our episodes, we do a little

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tear out the end of our episode for a little

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deeper insight into our topic.

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I guess so. Okay, great, I'm here. That makes one

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of us. Well, hopefully you guys are ready. You're here too.

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Oh boy, did you know that the city of Portland

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hasn't recorded a single homicide this month? And as we

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record this, it is April.

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I did not know that.

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Well, that's as of April twenty first this year. Anyway,

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So April twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, at threeh eight

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pm in the month of March, seven people were killed

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in Portland, a total of ten so far for the

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calendar year. Last summer, our neighboring state to the north

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was reporting a downward trend sort of the state of Washington,

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not Canada. Just to be clear, they are not actually

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a state. As a recording, they are still very much

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a nation independent from the US.

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Round of applause. Anyway, round of applause. Okay, it is

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and always will be the Gulf of Mexico.

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I was literally thinking the same thing. Weird, yeah, okay.

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The Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs published its

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annual data on crimes reported statewide for twenty twenty three.

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Their report revealed that there were a total of three

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hundred and seventy six murders recorded throughout the state of

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Washington last year three three seventy seven, three hundred and

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seventy six.

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Why you just said it seventy seven. But still it's

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like like one a day, over oneed how many days

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were there in a year, three hundred and sixty five, Yes,

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like over one a day though, that's just crazy.

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This represented a five point eight percent drop from the

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pre year, which seems positive until compared to another statistic.

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It also represents an eighty one point one percent increase

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over figures dating back to twenty nineteen. So eighty one

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zero point one percent increase reported in twenty twenty three

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compared to twenty nineteen.

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Wow, what is happening?

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that span that explains a lot. Oh am, I like

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forgetting something big, the great Panini.

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Duh okay, Cassie, I just like try to put that

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out of my head.

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Yes, because as we know, twenty twenty was in fact

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the longest decade ever.

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decade twenty twenty to future date twenty thirty. I mean

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twenty twenty the year. The standalone year felt like an

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Was this an increase in murders though, or just yests

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in general?

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But like this is what this is, homicide.

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very necessary. But if you are living with someone who

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is violent, that was one of those.

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Violent offenses rose steadily in twenty twenty and hit their

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peak in twenty twenty two in terms of violent crime overall.

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The month where these so called crimes against persons occurred

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was May, right around the corner, May the fourth be

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with you. Oh, I've always heard April showers bring May flowers,

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but apparently that's not all. Notably, February was the month

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where such crimes were the least frequent times day. I

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guess I just assume that winter kind of like you know,

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the summer heat brings out the worst and a lot

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of people. It's all included in a super non murdery

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way in my case.

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But no, everyone's just feeling the low. But Valentine's Day?

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Is it? I do have a question.

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Is it just because there's like a couple of days

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missing that makes it the least could be?

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Those couple of days, anything could happen, you know. Yeah.

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I skimmed over quite a few sections of this report

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and it breaks down a lot of different statistics related

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to crime. Obviously, that's the whole point in the state

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of Washington for twenty twenty three, and it's very interesting

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to see the data points. Certainly, I don't know. I

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have thoughts and feelings, obviously, you do.

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I know, it's weird.

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It's like, that's why I have this fucking microphone or something.

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I don't know, who knows. Why are we here today?

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We're covering a story that's as devastating as it is

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important to tell. It's a case that highlights what happens

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when warning signs are ignored and victims fall through the

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cracks of a system meant to protect them. It's the

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kind of story that makes you want to sit with

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the weight of it for a minute, a moment, maybe

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just the one, because it's pretty heavy. We'll be walking

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through the lives and tragic deaths of Miche Melendez and

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her seven year old daughter, Lailah Stewart Layelah Leayla.

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I love that name.

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I know this is not an easy story, but it's

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one that matters, and I think I hope that everybody

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know this applies to every story that I talk about.

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But it isn't just a true crime story. It's a

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timeline of heartbreak, a story of a mother, a daughter,

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and a system that seemed to have every opportunity to

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prevent their deaths and didn't. What happened to them is horrifying,

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but what's equally chilling is how much could have been prevented.

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We tell ourselves that we have systems in place to

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help prevent these tragedies in our communities. Let's start at

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the beginning. Miche Melendez was twenty seven. She was a mother,

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a daughter, and a friend. Lailah Stewart was bright, funny,

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with her whole life ahead of her. I mean she

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was seven years old, so literally her whole life ahead

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of her.

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I feel like seven's like a fun age.

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They start to get like their own little personality, like

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for real.

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Yeah yeah, And she definitely seemed like she had a

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really fun personality. The morning of March twelfth, twenty twenty three,

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was the last time Miche and Layla were seen alive

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before both vanished. The last person they were seen with

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was Kirkland C.

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Warren, a man that.

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Michee had a complicated relationship with. They stopped by a

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friend's house on Northeast Lewett Loop. That friend told police

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that Warren dropped Layla off there temporarily before leaving again.

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When they came back about three hours later, Mischee well,

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she was passed out in the front passenger seat of

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Warren's Dodge Charger. At least that's what he said. The

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friend said she looked unconscious. It was a brief interaction.

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Warren just went into the home, picked up Layla, and

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then drove off, and that was the last time anyone

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saw either of them.

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I feel like you should be going to a hospital

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if someone is unconscious in your car.

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No, the consensus was that he was just trying to

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pass it off, like, oh, she's just like hungover, Okay,

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That's that was the the vibe.

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She was just passed out. Okay, I'm thinking like like fate,

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like she's out episode, yeah, and you're just like picking

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up the dot like no, like go to the hospital, right, Okay, Okay,

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if she's just like passed out from drinking or something, right,

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not as concerning, but this is still concerning. Yeah, I

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would say, yeah, pretty early in the morning for yeah, yeah.

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Well, well I've been drunk in the morning.

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I mean, sure, who hasn't Probably people that don't drink.

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But you know, now here's what you need to know

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about Kirkland C.

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Warren.

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Other than that, I developed a nickname for him, and

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I don't think it's particularly clever, but I had fun

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with it.

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I can't wait to hear it.

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Soggi hot dog Kirkland.

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Do they have soggy hot dogs? Well, what's it called

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cost Costco?

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No, he's a soggy hot dog.

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I would never get a hot dog there. It's all

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eat chicken bake. What do you go there for a chicken? Baan?

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Are you getting a hot who's getting a hot dog?

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Who are you? Yeah?

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Anyways, he was a man with a documented history of violence,

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a pending murder charge in Arkansas.

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In Arkansas, so he moved. Sure did, Yeah, I wonder why? Yeah,

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you know it's weird. Wait can you if they're what, are.

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You allowed to leave the state? Question? Doesn't it? Yeah?

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It's almost like, don't we have systems in place for this?

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I have questions? Uh huh yeah, I bet. Yeah.

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Also, there was an active no content order from the court.

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This didn't come out of nowhere. This started years ago.

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November twenty seventh, twenty seventeen, Warren shot Curtis Urkhart in

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the head with a twenty two caliber pistol. He later

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admitted to the shooting, telling police it was self defense.

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He dumped the body in a ditch on December twelfth.

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He was arrested on December thirteenth. He posted bond and

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walked free.

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I can't get the words out because I'm just so

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very confused.

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Yeah, So it turns out you actually can very easily

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jump bond and moved to a different state when they

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let you out on bond.

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But murder, murder, you killing, and you dumped a body, see,

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which he.

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Actually had admitted to. He's like, never denied that I

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killed the guy, never denied that I tampered with the

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forensic evidence related to the corpse. I'm just saying it's

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self defense.

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I feel like it can be self defense, but like

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it can't be both, Like this is one of those

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things where two things can't be true, Like you can't

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try to cover up your self defense murder. Like if

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it's self defense, you call the fucking police and be like,

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I can't kill someone.

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Great, No, it looks really bad and how bad? How

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do you? How do you? How do you let them out? Yeah?

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I feel like maybe in that situation, like, ah, maybe

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we hold on to him for a minute, just.

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You know, get up him in our pause.

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Yeah.

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Fast forward to Vancouver, Washington in twenty twenty, so this

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is literally three years later. He shouldn't be there, He

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shouldn't even be there. No, he sure shouldn't, and yet

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here we are. In twenty twenty. Warren was investigated for

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possessing a stolen firearm, which doesn't seem like a red

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flag for somebody who already has been murder charges.

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He was arrested for this. Investigated.

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Investigated, Okay, investigated is the is the word that all

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of my source material used.

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I hear words wrong sometimes, sorry.

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Guys, no, no, And I think sometimes in your brain you

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go investigated, and then you think, like, well, surely they.

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Rest well, surely because he's he's murdered somebody and he

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has a cot.

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Don't call me surely? Uh Okay. In twenty twenty one,

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he lied on a firearm application stating that he wasn't

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under indictment. We already know he was getting back to

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twenty twenty three, getting back to twenty twenty three, which

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is the future from you know, the present future. Yeah,

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you know, the present future. He was facing active domestic

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violence charges stemming from a shooting at Miche's apartment back

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in December.

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Whoa.

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It took until February for law enforcement to corroborate her

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story with other witnesses, But later that same month, Miche recants.

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Oh, no, he got his little meaty claws into it,

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didn't he. M H.

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I think that feels safe to assume, and actually I

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don't really even have to assume. She says she made

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it up, blaming mental health and drug issues, and at

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this point she pleads for Warren not to be arrested.

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Investigators note the shift as suspicih, and despite her protest,

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Warren was arrested March second.

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Well that's good at least m h yep.

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March third, he appears in court facing domestic violence, assault,

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drive by shooting, harassment, and possession of a stolen firearm.

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A risk assessment gives him thirty one on a scale

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that only goes to eighteen. It's actually it's it's gonna

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get worse. So I don't know whether to let you

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process or how does that even happen? Though, if it's

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only gonna stay.

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Right, I think it books the question.

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It's confusing and scales horseshit. Yeah, I didn't want the salmon.

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Prosecutors say he is an extreme risk to Miche. They

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ask for one hundred thousand dollars bail and it's granted

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and no contact order is issued. On the very same

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day he's released, Warren calls Miche twice from jail.

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What's no contact made from jail? You're still okay?

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Honestly, as infuriating as that is, it's like, great, stay stupid.

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This will be used in a court of law. Right later,

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he says, there is no way I'm going back to Arkansas.

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I mean I wouldn't come back there either, but you

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know other places, sure, No, But I think it's important

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that He specifically said, there's no way I'm going back

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to Arkansas, which you know, if if the call was

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monitored in real time, that would have been like what

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what about Arkansas?

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But because I killed someone there and they want to,

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you know, put me on trial for it. But yeah,

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for some reason they let me out.

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Yeah, Warren didn't want to go back to Arkansas, not

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even a little in jail house phone calls too. Miche

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he blamed her for his problems, demanded she figure out

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how to get the domestic violence charges dropped, and made

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it clear he was spiraling. And he posts bail and

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is released March sixth. March sixth, this is three days later. Wow, wow,

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Warren appears in court again for violating the no contact order.

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Police ask for GPS monitoring. The judge sets ten thousand

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dollars bail and approves the monitor but it's never applied.

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Why which is why all of my source material states

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with such disdain that this man was not under GPS monitoring.

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March seventh, the case is dismissed, and March eighth, he

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walks free again.

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Like I just don't understand how this could happen multiple

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times to somebody. I mean it's happened before. But yeah, yeah,

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like I just don't get it.

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Yeah, it continues to not make sense, the math not mathing.

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You know what else doesn't make sense? My fuck? Wineglasses empty? Well,

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mine's almost empty too.

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All of this feels ominous in light of the fact

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that no one had seen or heard from Mische and

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Layla recently and such a short time after his release.

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I'm scared for them.

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I mean, you already know ultimately how this ends, and

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it's still kind of like what's gonna happen.

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Sometimes I like to pretend I don't know what's gonna

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happen in the end, and I just like to live

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in the moment.

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M hm uh, Okay, Well, the following moments are moments

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that you may feel less like inhabiting, Okay, days past.

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It was Miche's mother that reported the missing on March eighteenth,

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six days after they disappeared and just ten days after

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Warren was released. That same day, she found Mische's car

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parked near the Lewet Loop home of their friend that's

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less than a mile from the apartment that she shared

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with her seven year old daughter in the Springfield Meadows Complex.

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All I don't know why that sounds so cute.

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In a Springfield film, Meadows, Can I hold out to that,

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just like for a second longer? Inside their apartment empty

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except for their dog, doggy, Doggy.

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I think doggie was okay, okay, Yeah, don't.

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I don't have a lot of additional information about the dog.

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I just have to because doggie. I hope the doggie

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was okay.

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Yeah, I think the doggy was okay. The very next day,

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March nineteenth, Warren was arrested at his own home on

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Northeast one hundred and ninth Avenue. Police charged him with

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multiple offenses, tampering with a witness, violating no contact orders,

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and more. But when investigators searched his Dodge charger, they

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found something much.

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Worse, worse than a Dodge charger.

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I think, I think, yes, worse than a Dodge charger.

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But the contents were also worse.

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Yeah.

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In the front and back seats there was blood twenty

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two caliber shell casings. They also recovered children's clothing that

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matched what Layla had last been seen wearing, and Missche's

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purse with her id still inside. I don't like the clothing, Nope,

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and you're gonna like it. A lot less some additional

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details about our timeline. March eleventh, Mischee, Layla, and Warren

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stay at a friend's home. Early the next morning, the

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friend sees Mischee passed out in the passenger seat, So

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this is the day they went missing. That morning, she

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is unclothed from the waist down.

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Did the front know or yep?

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The friend this is their reporting.

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Okay, wow, that would be like hm hmm, well like

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to see which is odd.

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But as we know, Warren collects Layla and they drive off.

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The following day is later identified as the date that

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the mother and daughter went missing. Just the day before,

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Miche's mother reports her daughter and grandchild missing because they

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missed a regularly scheduled video call, and Arkansas judge provokes

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Warren's bond in the twenty seventeen case.

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Holy shit, so.

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He's just literally been running wild across the countryside for

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literal years.

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Yeah, why did Arkansas do that?

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Uh?

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Unclear? Okay, oh my god, did they hear about that?

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Like how did they hear about this? But I'm wait point.

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There was like cooperation between law enforcement of Arkansas and

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the state of Washington.

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Oh wow, I don't.

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Know at the exact point where those dots were connected.

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But uh, I have to assume that feels like maybe.

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Well that's great, Like I feel like that's really good

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for them to be in contact about this man.

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I mean, granted, Miche and Layla hadn't officially been reported

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missing at that point.

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This is the day before they are reported missing.

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Right, But he got into some shenanigans before that, that's correct, Yes,

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not good shenanigans.

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No, someone does not have the luck of the Irish,

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and I'm glad he doesn't deserve any leprechaun magic.

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No, he doesn't, not at all.

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When law enforcement performs a wellness check on the eighteenth,

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there's no sign of them. They're like weird, so they're

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like being reported missing and the wellness check says, oh oopsies,

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they may actually be Tot's missing missing. This next part

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really drives home some upsetting facts. First, is this man Hudini.

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He is constantly being released seemingly by magic. Make it

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makes sense?

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Who is this?

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On March twentieth, prosecutors ask for either no bail or

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for five hundred thousand dollars.

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Man, this whole money and bail thing more you talk.

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About it, it's pretty upsetting the more I don't like it.

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And while I would really love to go diving down

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the rabbit hole that is, you know, the classiest system

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of oppression so predominant in our legal system, I'm going

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to keep on moving.

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It's just obvious. I feel like you don't even need

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to No, it's just obvious. No, I feel like you.

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Yeah, if you don't inherently understand how people are being

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penalized for being poor by being ultimately driven further into poverty,

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then I have to assume that you're walking around like anyways,

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the judge postpones that hearing, you know, the bail one.

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At the hearing the following day, the prosecutors up their

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ask for bail to a million dollars and request GPS monitoring,

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And you want to know, what.

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Did he actually get it this time? It's granted? Oh wow.

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I feel like it's maybe a little just too late,

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a little.

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Tool, and it's not even I just feel like GPS monitoring.

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People totally misunderstand that is again like the jailhouse phone calls.

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That's not like being monitored in real time. It's not

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like dysturbia.

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Yeah, okay, I.

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Kind of always wonder how that works, because I'm like,

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no one's like manning the phones twenty four to.

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Seven, Like no, I mean, and every jurisdiction can potentially

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be a little bit different in terms of how they

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handle that administratively and just like from an operational side

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of things. But again, not how that works, right, Like.

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You don't leave the zone and an alarm goes off

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and then the police coming at.

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You, just like what and their response time is never

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going to be three minutes or less for something like that.

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Yeah.

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Then on the morning of March twenty second, a passerby

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walking down a private road near Southeast Wooding and Sunset

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View in wash Shugle made a nine one one call.

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They thought they saw what looked like two life sized

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mannequins at the bottom of a steep embankment lodged in

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thick brush near Gibbons Creek. It wasn't mannequins. It's never mannequins.

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I mean, I think there was that one time where

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it was a mannequin and that was like, you know,

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on the side of the highway and that was really

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messed up. But it's just not that it was Mische

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and Leila their bodies partially unclothed, bore the marks of

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multiple gunshot wounds, suspected to have been fired from a

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twenty two caliber firearm that their autopsies would later confirm

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as the cause of death. Miche's was a close range

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contact wound is a different way of saying essentially execution style,

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while Layla had been shot twice, which begs the question,

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why are you double tapping a seven year old? And

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I think I think we have the answer.

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I don't.

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Also, horrifyingly, lab results would ultimately confirm Warren's DNA was

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present on Layla's body.

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Yeah, I kind of feel like I knew that was coming,

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but I don't. I don't.

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Yeah, this is a situation where some sort of sexual

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violence occurred to a minor, and there are not a

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lot of details available about that because she's a minor.

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I'm okay with that. I don't need the details. No,

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nobody wants that.

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But ultimately, I hope that this reads to everyone that

473
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:48.480
may encounter this man in the future. I hope that

474
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.039
reads as he raped a little girl.

475
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.119
Yeah, that's how that's how it sounds.

476
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:59.759
Yeah, sure does. I don't need the details. Following this discovery,

477
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.920
when detectives asked him whether he thought their bodies had

478
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:09.039
been found. Warren said I don't know, before adding I

479
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:14.160
hope not. Well sounds non committal, right, I mean that

480
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.440
could be something that you say, like, I mean, I

481
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:16.880
don't know.

482
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.319
I hope not. Yeah, like I hope there were no bodies.

483
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.799
I hope they're alive. Uh huh. Yeah.

484
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.519
However, I'm going to guess based on tone and a

485
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.400
lot of other contexts that I have not not how

486
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.559
they were reading that. Also this however, when he was

487
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.079
shown aerial photos of the site where the bodies were discovered,

488
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:46.680
he ended the interview and requested an attorney. Why makes

489
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.519
a question? Yeah, almost like oh shit, like.

490
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.440
They know where they're at.

491
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.640
Yes, Oh, that's like a dead giveaway because they at

492
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.119
that time they haven't found.

493
00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.799
Them yet, right, No, or they had aerial photos of

494
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.240
where the bodies were found.

495
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.680
Oh okay, okay, okay.

496
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.720
And this is one of those classic situations of like

497
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.759
they're like, we're going to go in cold and we're

498
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.759
going to give him a little piece. I see, we're

499
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.599
not going to let him know. And and maybe they

500
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.920
didn't know, maybe it wasn't fully confirmed yet. They go

501
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.440
in and they are like, Okay, we're going to see

502
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.200
how he reacts.

503
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.200
Right, because he didn't know that they knew that, he

504
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.400
knew that they knew, right.

505
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.759
It's you know, no, I mean it's honestly, they want

506
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.640
to see how a suspect reacts to certain information because organically,

507
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.319
like your reaction is going to say a lot about

508
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.079
what you know, there's so many implications.

509
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.880
So he did the wrong thing, but sure did the

510
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:47.440
right thing.

511
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.680
Yeah, No, I mean, like stay stupid, you know.

512
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:51.839
Yeah?

513
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:57.799
Oh man, wow, them tricksy, them tricksy cops trick some

514
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:59.279
times a tricksy.

515
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.960
According to court documents, Warren would later tell police that

516
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.680
he and Miche got into an argument over his second

517
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.920
cell phone and that she accidentally shot Layla twice before

518
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.359
turning the gun on herself. Because, of course, if you

519
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.359
killed your own child totally by accident in the middle

520
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.200
of a heated argument, of course, what else would you do?

521
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:26.480
You would just shoot yourself in the.

522
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.079
Right, right, right right.

523
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.119
But also, and I can see the question on your face,

524
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.599
I can see it all over your face. Hole, which

525
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.480
is why my next sentence is, why would a man

526
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.000
have a second cell phone?

527
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.480
You might be tempted to ask Oh, I didn't need

528
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.519
to ask why he has a second Do you need

529
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:46.160
to ask why?

530
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.960
I don't know? I mean, I actually there are I

531
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.359
don't want to say it's not exactly a plethora, but

532
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.519
I can think of a few reasons.

533
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.920
Other bitches or drug deals. What's the other reason? Very smart,

534
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.000
like there's two choices?

535
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.039
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.

536
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.440
Did I forget to mention that this whole ass time

537
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:11.640
Warren has actually been married. He has a whole ass wife.

538
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:18.079
Kirkland, What the fuck you're married? Yeah? Does she live

539
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.240
in Arkansas? Nope? Oh?

540
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.279
I well, actually I don't know. No one cares. The

541
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.240
only other thing we're gonna learn about her is coming

542
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:28.279
up shortly.

543
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:29.400
Yeah.

544
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.839
So, speaking of degrees of shitball, his version of events

545
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.680
was that miche was the one holding the twenty two

546
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.960
pistol he gave her for protection, and that he was

547
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:46.440
under the influence of weed, mushrooms, and cocaine at the time.

548
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.559
Oh feels like a super weird combo.

549
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.599
If sounds like a party, I mean.

550
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.559
The entirety of a party in one man's system.

551
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.960
But it's like he couldn't decide. He's like I was

552
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.319
on this and this and this, like you couldn't just

553
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:03.640
be no.

554
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.559
I mean I think sometimes people are just like, oh yeah,

555
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.400
the multiplier effect. Yeah, and they're like, oh yeah, then

556
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.880
I'll totally you know, this is how I get off.

557
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.079
Scott Freeze tell them I was like pumped full of

558
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.639
all kinds of drugs and then it's fine. And it's like,

559
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:28.599
I don't think you understand the legal definition of like culpability.

560
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.480
Like does he think because I'm on so many of

561
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.719
these drugs, I can't shoot a gun like.

562
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.320
Or that is somehow you're less responsible. So it's like

563
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.679
I feel like for a lot of these situations, it

564
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.760
seems like they think that makes them less culpable.

565
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.079
I don't know, maybe pick a different drug like meth

566
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:47.320
or what's the one.

567
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.239
That people that somebody is the one that you like

568
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:51.480
eat people's faces off?

569
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.159
Oh that's bad salts. I don't know what that is,

570
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:57.880
say that one. I don't know. One.

571
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.760
ECP is the one where like there was such a

572
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.800
moral panic about it because people were like jumping off roofs,

573
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:11.280
and there have been instances where allegedly people have become

574
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:12.199
really aggressive.

575
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.280
Do your research, dude, weed trooms and coke. I mean,

576
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.079
maybe the coke, I don't know, but like.

577
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.519
Yeah, pick a different drug. Yeah, I don't know.

578
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.199
I'm just saying I don't because it's obviously not true.

579
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.079
It also really doesn't matter because all three of those

580
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:28.920
still wouldn't.

581
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.400
It doesn't, It doesn't. Fuck you still did it?

582
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:31.719
Yeah?

583
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:32.280
Yeah, No.

584
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.400
Here's the thing is, even if they believe that nonsense,

585
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.840
I mean, now you just copped to, you know, being

586
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.840
under the influence, which really is neither here nor there.

587
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.199
He said he tried to overdose but threw the pills up,

588
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.440
which which one of these is pills, I'm sorry, and

589
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.719
instead fled to his wife's house, which makes me believe

590
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.880
she did not reside in Arkansas, where he hid for

591
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.599
a few days. As for his wife, Monette Tyler Warren,

592
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:08.840
she was later convicted of embezzling twenty four five hundred

593
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.119
dollars from her credit union where she worked. That's it, yeah,

594
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.960
And I will say, I know, my girl game higher.

595
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:23.840
You know, if you're gonna get caught, is not.

596
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.679
Even going to cover your legal face. I don't know,

597
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:28.480
I don't know how much.

598
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.679
We don't do crime, but like also, if you're going

599
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.639
to do crime, you know what I mean?

600
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.920
Yeah, kind of like wow, was it worth it? That

601
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:43.119
was a rhetorical question, because no, no, nor okay. So

602
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.719
this is the part that I actually kind of hate,

603
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.159
and I remember seeing this in real time. I remember

604
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.719
seeing and it's harder to find kind of some of

605
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:59.199
the icky sentiment now, but there were some. There was

606
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.920
some chattering. It was a little bit like a reddit.

607
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.840
Oh okay, it was a little bit like a subreddit

608
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:12.079
for a minute there about this, because prosecutors say the

609
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:17.320
money was transferred to an account controlled by Miche, allegedly

610
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:24.320
at Warren's direction. So essentially what happened is like kind

611
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.199
of early days. There was speculation at certain points about like,

612
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:34.280
oh is this some sort of conspiracy and like oh okay,

613
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:40.239
even that classic just super gross kind of narrative forming

614
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.119
about like oh, well, she's just a person of color

615
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.760
who like stole, So like she's less dead now her

616
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.119
and her child don't matter because they may or may

617
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:56.840
not have been involved in some sort of a criminal act, which,

618
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:02.400
by the way, let's just say so so clearly that

619
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:07.679
even if she had been the mastermind of it, not

620
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:13.280
less dead. This is a child. Also, she is so

621
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:19.159
clearly a victim of an abusive relationship. Do you think

622
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:20.480
that was her choice.

623
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.320
Right, he's contacting her from prison with a no contact order, like.

624
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:27.360
And some of this stuff.

625
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.840
I get why these points are brought up, and why

626
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.599
you know, before we know maybe that they're dead, before

627
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.639
we know all of the backstory. You might go, ooh,

628
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.079
that doesn't look good. Yeah, But in hindsight, I'm like, Okay,

629
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.039
let's pretend it's Gabby for a minute, right, Yeah, what

630
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.280
do you think that reads like?

631
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:51.519
In her case?

632
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.920
I just I struggle. I struggle with the framing in

633
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.400
this situation because I haven't come right out and said it.

634
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:05.039
But Miche Melendez was a person of color, as was

635
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.920
her daughter, obviously, and I don't I don't like the

636
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:18.159
characterization in some instances, yeah, related to a crime that

637
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:22.559
somebody else was committing. I mean, to be clear, there's

638
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.119
no money for her to then, you know, be the

639
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.840
receiver of without somebody else having embezzled it.

640
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.840
Right, And like did she like obviously I don't know

641
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.760
if we know, but like, did she even know about

642
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:36.880
this or was it just put in her name?

643
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:38.480
It's hard to say.

644
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:39.400
It's hard to say.

645
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.159
I don't know that that was ever determined. And again

646
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.440
she did who fucking cares not less dead.

647
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.199
Yeah, not less dead. Maybe that's the T shirt I want. Yeah.

648
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:56.440
Police officially charged Warren with two counts of first degree

649
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:00.840
murder on March thirty first, which is a a pretty

650
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:03.840
quick turnaround. I was gonna say, wait a minute, Mart,

651
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.639
it's we're still still in March.

652
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:07.599
Yeah.

653
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.639
In April, the prosecution stated they would pursue aggravated murder

654
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.800
punishable by life without parole, but this case never made

655
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:19.519
it to trial.

656
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.519
Excuse me, yeah, which.

657
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:29.679
Is actually it's one of the few positive surprises. Maybe

658
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:34.599
months later, in September, just days before the trial, Warren

659
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.400
changed his plea to guilty, well sort of, for the

660
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.679
second degree murder for mache an aggravated murder of Leila.

661
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.559
He entered an alfred plea for first degree child molestation.

662
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.920
For anyone unfamiliar with the term, and alfred plea essentially

663
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.360
allows a defendant to maintain their innocence but assert that

664
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.079
the state has enough evidence to obtain a conviction.

665
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.400
I know I've heard the term before, and I don't

666
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.440
know where. I don't know if it was from you or.

667
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.320
I think probably one of the better known examples of

668
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:18.960
sort of this strategy, at least legally not at all.

669
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:24.079
The same situation, obviously is in the West Memphis three.

670
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.320
Okay, so.

671
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:34.280
Super, in my opinion, not a guilty person, but someone

672
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:38.760
who has ultimately decided that I just don't want to

673
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:39.760
die in prison.

674
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.760
Oh yeah, I think.

675
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.880
In this case, I'm not sure that the finer points

676
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:51.400
of an Alfred plea would matter much to his potential

677
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.400
new roommates. But I can see why that strategy might

678
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:59.480
have made sense for someone facing the charges in potential

679
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.440
sentence that he was. Again, Super, don't think his new

680
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.320
roommates are gonna be swayed by the fact that it

681
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:09.280
was an Alfred plea.

682
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.519
I think I kind of forgot about that. Yeah, I

683
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:13.360
think it's the thing.

684
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.960
I think if they know what you were charged with,

685
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.880
good luck with that. At sentencing, the courtroom was packed. Family,

686
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.960
friends and supporters wearing shirts with Miche and Laylah's photos

687
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:32.320
were present. The judge said, the air in this courtroom

688
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.840
hangs heavy with the imponderable suffering of the family and

689
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.320
friends of the victims. Warren declined to speak, and he showed,

690
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.719
I mean really no emotion as he was led away.

691
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.119
Every single photo of this man is stone fucking cold.

692
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.320
I don't know that i'd want to see like anything else,

693
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.079
because it's like it would feel like disingenuous, almost like

694
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.960
you've killed this person. So I don't want to see

695
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:02.039
fucking emotion from you.

696
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.559
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. There's no good

697
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.679
way to see that.

698
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.000
I guess no, But I think it really cements that

699
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.280
I just don't think that there's remorse.

700
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:14.159
Yeah.

701
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:21.719
Officer Tanya Wolstein read family statements. Layla's last moments were

702
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.679
filled with fear and suffering that no child should experience,

703
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:35.639
so she also read statements at at a vigil for

704
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.480
both of them. I felt like seeing the photos of

705
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.360
her at the vigil, it was really hard to see

706
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.679
someone who I'm sure you know through the course of

707
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.360
this investigation. You know, it's like she feels like she

708
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.840
knows them, But to see pictures from the vigil, it

709
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.400
was just such a it's hard to even put into words.

710
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:03.320
You could just really see how deeply affected people were

711
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.880
by this case. And there were so many people showing

712
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.119
up to these to the vigil, and you know in

713
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.920
the courtroom that it's like they don't know them personally,

714
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:21.119
but the impact of this case. Laylah's father Javonte Stewart said,

715
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.840
the impacts of their death have left me and others

716
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.559
here today struggling to find a way forward, and the

717
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.800
grief is something I carry with me every moment of

718
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.280
my life. This case had touched a lot of lives,

719
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.079
people that knew the victims, and like I said, I

720
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:44.320
mean many that hadn't. In twenty twenty two, the CDC

721
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.679
reported that over half of female homicide victims were killed

722
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:54.440
by current or former partners, over half over half. And

723
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.440
this is where we get the phrase it's always the husband.

724
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.039
That's what I was thinking and husband did.

725
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:06.760
And according to the National Network to End Domestic Violence,

726
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:11.039
one in three women killed by intimate partners had reached

727
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:16.320
out to police or services beforehand. That breaks my heart.

728
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.880
This wasn't a system error. This was a system pattern.

729
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.440
And as much as there were things that we can

730
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.760
all point to and say this is the part of

731
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.360
the system that we hate and we don't understand and

732
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.880
it needs to be better, ultimately we can't really lay

733
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.320
this at the feet of the system either, because for

734
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.800
all the things that we have in place to try

735
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:48.599
to prevent these things, there are just probably always going

736
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:54.000
to be people that do things like this also related

737
00:45:54.079 --> 00:46:02.920
to the murder that occurred in Arkansas on April twenty third,

738
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:08.840
twenty twenty three. A fugitive warrant for his arrest was issued,

739
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:16.920
which as I was writing this, this particular part of

740
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:23.480
the story, it was on April twenty third, twenty twenty five.

741
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:25.360
What.

742
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:27.599
Yeah, And I'd.

743
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.159
Already spent a good chunk of time on this case.

744
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.239
But I was like, Oh, that's fucking spooky.

745
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.079
That is so weird.

746
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.360
Looking at this like through the month of April and

747
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:48.440
seeing all of these parallels to like months just very

748
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:54.400
recently gone by, and then also finding stuff that related

749
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.239
to like the crime stats from the report related to

750
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.519
Bebyruh and May, and it just felt like it was

751
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:09.400
like this like chunk of time in recent history. It

752
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.599
was like everything felt like, oh my god, this is

753
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:19.079
like two years to the day later, the whole timeline.

754
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.440
Oooh spooky. I don't know.

755
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.239
It gave me chills. And this is only April. What

756
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.519
what's today twenty April twenty six.

757
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:28.960
Yeah.

758
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.760
I don't really have an eloquent way to end this.

759
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:40.119
I'm going to read this next statement and then we'll

760
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.920
move on to something that feels a little less heavy, Well,

761
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.760
we'll do our tiro. If you or someone you know

762
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.639
is experiencing domestic violence, please don't wait. Help us available.

763
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.679
You can call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at one

764
00:47:56.039 --> 00:48:00.320
eight hundred seven nine to nine safe that's seven two

765
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.960
three three, text start to eight eight seven eight eight,

766
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.599
or visit the hotline dot org for twenty four to

767
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.639
seven confidential support. You are not alone and you deserve

768
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.119
to be safe.

769
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.079
I don't know why that.

770
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.320
Like really fucks me up.

771
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:18.000
It does.

772
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.639
It's the whole time though you're that you're saying that,

773
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.920
I'm thinking, like there are some people who can't even

774
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.280
do that, Like they don't even feel safe enough to

775
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.800
do that, or they're so like watched that they can't

776
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.199
text a line or fucking like call a hot line

777
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:34.920
or something like.

778
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.000
It's yeah, and it's so scary.

779
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.880
We've talked about cases where you know where that is

780
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.679
the situation, and I think it's always really hard with

781
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:52.679
cases that involve domestic violence because people don't understand sometimes

782
00:48:52.719 --> 00:49:00.400
how coeresive and controlling and manipulative those situations be.

783
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.079
And they just it's not like they just like spring

784
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.599
on you either, they like now row on you, and

785
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.440
they to where you're like, you don't even realize half

786
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.480
the time, like what's happening? You don't really realize it.

787
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:20.000
No, it's the pots slowly heating up before it's boiling, right.

788
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.599
I think we'll probably try to put that in the show.

789
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:24.199
Notes as well.

790
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:24.960
Well.

791
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:36.840
Should we do some harrow? I think we should. Okay,

792
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:41.239
all yours, My energy is in there. Okay, she is

793
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:44.679
shuffling the deck. I won't tell you.

794
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.519
What she just did off camera. Her hair is a

795
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.880
beautiful rose gold. Last time, you were like, her hair

796
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.079
is a beautiful chestnut.

797
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.199
To me because I was like, describe what I'm you're

798
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:06.559
read that sounds like it was great. I loved it.

799
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.039
We get this one all the time. Oh my goodness, Okay,

800
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:16.159
seven of swords I forget. Okay for some people who

801
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.840
may not listen all the time. We are using our

802
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:22.239
P and W deck, which is not a traditional tarot deck,

803
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.280
so the imagery is a little bit different on it,

804
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.400
and I feel like sometimes we just kind of start

805
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.280
talking about it and we don't say, like, hey, this

806
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.199
is the P and W the way we're using. Because

807
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:34.559
we also have a YouTube now which shows our altar

808
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.440
and everything and the cards we're using, So sometimes we

809
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.599
just kind of assume you can see it and then

810
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:42.119
we don't explain what's going on.

811
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.400
Listen, if you want to know what's going on, then

812
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.159
I we're sorry.

813
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:52.440
Yeah, we faking don't know what's happening. Ever, I don't know.

814
00:50:53.400 --> 00:51:06.159
So seven of swords. Our keywords are uncertainty, illusion, impetuousness, stealth, cunning,

815
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.239
and strategy.

816
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.800
Yeah, it's got that little fox on it. So that's

817
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.199
like the weasel. So I always called a fox, it's

818
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:14.599
a weasel.

819
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.800
It does kind of look like a fox at a glance, though.

820
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:18.280
Yeah.

821
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:22.320
The weasels stealing eggs out of a robin's nest such

822
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:23.480
a dick move.

823
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.199
Which is like kind of like what he did a

824
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:27.679
little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

825
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.000
The imagery for me baby a baby from a nest

826
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:39.960
basically great. Literally Okay. Some decks, including the Writer, Weaight Smith, Aquarian,

827
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:46.360
and Gilded Tarot, show a man carrying carrying away five swords,

828
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.960
leaving two stuck in the ground beside him behind him.

829
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:55.719
Excuse me, wow, reading is hard. When this card appears,

830
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.760
it suggests you're facing a challenge or problem and must

831
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:06.000
you caution to overcome potential danger. The Upright seven suggests

832
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.880
a tricky situation in which things are not completely clear.

833
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.519
You may be formulating a plan but don't have all

834
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.039
the information you need, or the plan may be risky

835
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:23.400
and could backfire. This card can represent surreptitious action and

836
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.880
advises diplomacy. I feel like in this situation that really

837
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.760
what is diplomacy. I mean, it's kind of like trying

838
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.719
to make peace and trying to be I mean, trying

839
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:43.079
to be a peacemaker. But the surreptitious action that's what

840
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:47.440
gets me, because it's like, how can you adequately be

841
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:53.079
the peacemaker in a situation where people are behaving in

842
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:58.760
ways that are underhanded, that are manipulative.

843
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:02.840
You can't. I mean you can try, you can try.

844
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.599
In a reading about money, the seven warns that you

845
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.280
probably shouldn't go ahead with a financial idea or investment

846
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:16.960
you're considering, like embezzlement. Oh, perhaps the risks are too

847
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:20.480
high or the deal may be shaky or shady.

848
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:26.840
Yeah, like embezzlement twenty four twenty four hundred thousand, twenty

849
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:27.840
four thousand.

850
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.320
Yeah, twenty four thousand, five hundred.

851
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:38.440
While and fifty six. Oh my god, Sands.

852
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.480
If the reading is about your job, this card says,

853
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:49.280
don't engage indirect confrontation, work behind the scenes to get results.

854
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.840
The upright seven can also indicate restlessness. Perhaps your job

855
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.760
lacks the diversity or stimulation you desire. Consider making a

856
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.599
in a reading about love your advice to seek compromise

857
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.519
and use diplomacy rather than arguing with a partner. But

858
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.760
don't just go along to get along.

859
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:18.039
Oh wow, that was for sure. When she took back

860
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:21.719
her statement about that, was it a shooting, like he

861
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:23.159
like shot somebody or something?

862
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:23.800
Yeah, it was.

863
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.639
Well, I mean, it's unclear to me, at least in

864
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:33.400
my research, what exactly or who exactly he may have

865
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:38.760
been firing upon. But given the fact that he was

866
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:42.840
charged for essentially what amounts to like drive.

867
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:46.719
By Oh Jesus, I don't know.

868
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:50.119
And to be honest, I don't know that it adds

869
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:53.320
a lot of value to the case, which should be

870
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.119
centered on the victims. That I was like, listen, I

871
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.800
can pull at this thread, but it's not about that. Yeah,

872
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.079
and it doesn't work, It doesn't change.

873
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.360
But a totally like reminds me of that. How she

874
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.400
like re recount recounted her statement, is that what ThEC

875
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.559
recan't Yeah, that's not the right word.

876
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:15.840
Recanted her statement.

877
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:21.559
Yeah, recounting is like almost like recollection. Yeah, yeah, there's

878
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.360
similar words leave me alone. They are I mean the

879
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:31.440
they sound alike. Sometimes this card shows leaving a relationship

880
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.519
that doesn't meet your intellectual or spiritual needs.

881
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.079
I don't think he met any of her needs. Oh

882
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:39.480
my god.

883
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:45.840
Extra excerpt is uh, focus, be focused and thorough in

884
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:51.320
planning your strategy. As Barbara Moore writes in The Gilded Tarot, companion,

885
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:56.679
be on guard or one of those sorts he left

886
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:03.159
behind will find its way into his Oh right.

887
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.559
And he basically like he left enough evidence to get

888
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:09.559
himself convicted.

889
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:12.039
Yep. Wow.

890
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.239
And do you know, Okay, listen, maybe this is irresponsible

891
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:24.519
to actually vocalize, but I will say, leaving behind the

892
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:30.920
forensic evidence that leads to an Alfred plea for what

893
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:36.159
you did to a child, that's one way to get shanked.

894
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:41.199
He's not dead yet, though, is he Nope? Not to

895
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:45.079
my knowledge. I feel like that would have made the news.

896
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:53.559
There's one more extra excerpt. Okay, his holiness, the fourteenth

897
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:59.159
Dalai Lama tragedy should be utilized as a source of strength,

898
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:05.159
no matter what sort of difficulties, how painful experience is.

899
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.719
If we lose our hope, that's our real disaster.

900
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:15.480
I feel like that's just like really hits just in

901
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.280
general right now for the world.

902
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:23.480
Yeah, I feel like talking about this through the lens

903
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:29.119
of you know, the political landscape recently and thinking about

904
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:36.960
how quickly certain populations, basically anyone who's not white, cis male,

905
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:40.599
could be set back essentially fifty five years.

906
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.079
That's just a really important sentiment right now.

907
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.239
I know I've read the little interpretation from the book

908
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.800
that comes with the PNW deck. Let me just see,

909
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.039
because you never know, even though you've read something a

910
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.440
thousand times, like there still could be like a part

911
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.000
or a word that just totally This is why we

912
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.440
pull the same card all the time because we have

913
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.360
the same type of theme. Maybe. I mean, if the

914
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:13.519
shoe fits Cinderella, so it's an Olympic short tailed weasel,

915
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:19.159
so that's isn't like Olympic Olympia associated yeah with like Washington. Yeah, ooh,

916
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.039
we did. We have read this so recently. Listen, everybody's

917
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.639
got to eat.

918
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:26.559
And I feel like when we were talking about this,

919
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:28.559
we were kind of talking about the same sort.

920
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.039
Of themes I'm in who would have sunk?

921
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:30.760
Right?

922
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:34.519
It ain't my fault.

923
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.159
Mom and Papa Robin decided to fly off at the

924
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:41.559
same time. Oh god, See, I wouldn't call that a

925
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.360
wise decision. I know they're not gonna want to hear this,

926
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.800
but when you think about it, this one's on them.

927
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:49.719
Look at how nature works.

928
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:54.760
It's opportunistic, and I know an opportunity when I see it.

929
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:59.960
That's like typical fucking oh god, abusive manipulator.

930
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:00.920
Yeah shit.

931
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:04.400
Anyway, if I didn't swipe these eggs, somebody else would have.

932
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.719
Anybody could have been waiting in the leaves, still in

933
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.679
silent as death, watching that nest all afternoon and still

934
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:13.760
in silent as death.

935
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.280
It's just oh, I hate it.

936
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.480
Anybody could have deftly climbed the tallest tree, swung out

937
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.559
on the rickety bough, and dive neatly into the nest

938
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.239
cup without so much as scuffing a single delicious egg.

939
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.079
I mean, eggs in this economy, don't be stuffing that

940
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.440
bitches them bitches. So what if I got there first?

941
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.440
Don't blame me for playing a game and winning. What

942
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:39.440
do you want me to do?

943
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.239
Starve? So it just like you let me out of jail,

944
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:44.440
like that's your fault.

945
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:49.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean and yes, yes and no, yes,

946
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:50.519
yes and no.

947
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:55.320
Yeah. It's really yucky and I hate it. I know,

948
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:04.360
having creepy last day. We'll see you next Tuesday. Scrambled

949
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:23.239
eggs anyone? Goal for it?

950
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:27.519
Nya Ham, you missed my hilarious sports and joint.

951
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.760
What did you say? You said go for it?

952
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.440
Yeah, because when you said go for it, it sounds

953
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:33.559
like goal for it.

954
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:34.920
And I was so I.

955
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:41.360
Said goal for it, like goal like a like a goalie. Yeah,

956
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:45.239
And I was like, goal for it. Maya Ham, I

957
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:46.400
don't know what that means.

958
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.599
She's a soccer player. Oh I don't soccer. I barely

959
01:00:50.679 --> 01:01:00.679
know her. I am a dad on the inside. Okay,

960
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:02.000
oh my gos