Beetlejuice Goes Pacific Northwest!

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Apparently once Keaton got his whole Beetlejuice shit together like the outfit

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shows up on set he's ready to go and the crew and the cast were so excited they

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were chanting “juice, juice!" that's amazing because I mean imagine him walking in

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for the first time you're working on this movie you know what's supposed to

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happen you see the set and then you see the beetle do you expect him to come

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walking out like I would chant do that chets cool

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oh my god okay are we actually I forget how we do this because this is

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different okay yeah this is really weird for you where do we start I don't

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know hi Caitlin hi Cassie hi creepy people hello this is PNW Haunts and homicides

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where we chat about true crime the paranormal and all things creepy spooky

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weird in the Pacific Northwest I was trying to think of more words but they

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didn't come that's that's all we needed we do a

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Tarot reading in every episode so that we can get a little bit of deeper

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insight into our topic for the day yeah we do I was like I don't did I forget

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something no I was trying to think of something to say other than yeah we yeah

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we do I feel like out of sorts today yeah we are a little bit out of sorts

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yes but we do you know what is sorted you know it's cool and organized our

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patreon that's so true and we have some shout outs to do today yeah we do we have a

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brand new tarot bitty amongst us Michelle hi Michelle hi Michelle we hope you like

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tarot because you're a terro bitty now so it's like required yeah hopefully you

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stick around for the tarot readings at the end at least yeah and welcome to

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Leah she has joined us on the $10 never bundy tier she agrees with us yeah never

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bundy oh a joy Leah you are a boss babe yeah you are and she'll get it she'll get it

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I did this and made a winky sound but I didn't wink and then I tried to wink and I

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think it went all wrong I guess we'll find out in the recording yeah that was for

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you Leah that was for you I suck at things okay be knew who doesn't suck at

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things probably is Amy at the $1 creepy people tier hey hey hi Amy welcome to the

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shenanigans you're definitely a creepy people person listen the $1

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denomination don't feel like that limits you in any sense as far as your

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creepiness as far as our love for you to yeah you know we love you all equally I

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don't know are you gonna piss people off at the higher tiers they're like well

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if you love us all the same we're lowering ourselves but you know just because

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you give us more money and we give you more things and like VIP shout outs and

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whatnot at the higher tiers doesn't mean we love you more gifts don't equal love

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you know wait they don't no love equals love oh that's but then how do you know

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how to quantify love you can't that's the that's life's biggest mystery and now

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we're a philosophical podcast yeah philosophical yes I'm I'm sticking to it

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okay anyway we're done for shout outs unless I have a bunch where people join and

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then you'll get shouted out the next time yeah no I love that for us anyway

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anyway there's real big news in the world right now there is have you guys

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heard of Taylor's left no I'm unfamiliar that's it I'm done with this podcast um you

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know I know who she is you literally sent me like her entire album this morning

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so we're not gonna talk about it for long but we have to mention the song who's

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afraid of little me because it's so fucking witchy and I just it's the best it

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is the best like it's the best you can love Taylor Swift you can hate her but she

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like what you I know she's hard to hate I think but what she does for when she

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just like the ultimate feminist I think yeah I love her and you know what I

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happen to know that some of our male listenership enjoys her as well I know a

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lot of dudes who do yeah she's great yeah which reminds me I talked about in the

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Missy Copsie in that two-parter I think it was in part one and I mentioned

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Dewey sends me a ton of cases and I was like listening to something later and

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it occurred to me um I may have made it sound like Dewey was the one that sent me

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the Missy Copsie case and he has sent me cases a ton of them and I have actually

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covered one of them already um but Aaron is the one who sent me the Missy Copsie

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case gotta give credit where credit is due Caitlin yeah yeah well I just I didn't say

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like oh thanks Dewey for sending me this Misty Copsie case but I was like oh you

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know what listening to this I feel like maybe people could have been confused and

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they thought that you know anyways they've both sent me several cases so it's

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it's not a race or a competition but you're both crushing it so no one sends me

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any cases I mean come on that's not entirely true I have a whole stash of things

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I'm like looking at them hmm should I do this should I do this I'm scrolling I don't

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know if you can tell yeah you know the other thing is we have on the Facebook

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discussion group there's a whole chat for people to drop in case suggestions

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oh cool yeah and we have the same thing on Patreon too so I should get on

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Facebook and snoop around there haven't been on their ages ages uh well I have more

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news like this is a very news heavy episode okay there's some paranormal news in

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the news some news in the news you don't say yeah okay are you ready for this I

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mean probably not but let's do it this is an article from Entertainment Weekly

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and the headline is hotel from the shining catches fire in Oregon yeah in our own

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backyard so Timberline Lodge was the exterior for that's right yeah for the

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shiny I knew this yes you've been there right like like blasher yeah I'm just saying

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I knew about the Timberline Lodge fire I just did not put two and two together

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at all this was April 19th yeah literally yesterday this

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was nobody worry sorry if I'm like making you guys worry it didn't burn down

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everything is fine the fire was contained to like the roof and parts of the

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attic and they were able to put it out my gosh but do you you've said have you

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seen the shiny and it's a scary movie I've seen parts of it I don't know that I've

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ever sat down and watched it like beginning to end at the end it burns down so yeah

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um it's a little creepy that interesting I mean I know buildings catch on fire it's

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a thing that happens it's not like that much of a coincidence that it burned out

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in the movie and it caught fire but I mean I just I don't know how many buildings

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are just catching fire like it it's not like an everyday thing I mean that's

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what the fire department does how are they still in business if things aren't

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catching fire daily first of all still in business okay capitalism has really

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messed us up in business um yeah people still need their services as it were

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for quite a few things and burning buildings that that's just one of our yeah but

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I mean yeah it's not a super rare occurrence no so it's a coincidence but it's

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like not that big of a coincidence it's just kind of weird and eerie and cool to

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talk about because it's an Oregon it was in the shining which is creepy yeah yeah so we're

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glad it didn't burn down because that place is beautiful yeah and creepy I'm so creeped out right now

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oh boy in other news oh my gosh more news in the news oh no okay are you ready I'm

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yep I brought a pet I see that yeah I've been noticing that for some time um and I can't

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help but notice that you have your beetle juice cup there as well so do I yes oh what's on my

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shirt it's beetle juice stuff too okay all right all right guess where I went where I went to the

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beetle juice musical you did that's right I knew that I did I'm so excited oh I got one more

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thing I forgot oh okay it's a shot glass it's a sucks yes I'm not gonna tell you what it means

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because you have to go watch the musical but it's hilarious I'll tell you off-air kit obviously

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obviously the musical was amazing um I really enjoyed it obviously I'm the huge beetle juice fan

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I don't know why you can't tell I didn't even I didn't bring my landyard but my landyard is

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beetle juice too I mean it's in my purse because I drove here so I have to have my keys but uh it's

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in there it's yeah it's really far away I will give one spoiler to show you like tell you guys why

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I love this so much it was a little different than the movie which I appreciated obviously there's

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a lot of music in it it's a musical yeah but the storyline was like a little bit different oh okay

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but spoiler okay if you don't want to know skip forward like 30 seconds so you know in the movie

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beetle juice he'd like creepily hits on the woman oh yeah he does it to Adam too in the play like

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he even more like harder than he went on Barbara and it just it just made me so happy I was like

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I I can get down with this I love me a bisexual beetle juice I mean yeah but I mean are they still

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like underage oh oh okay I won't spoil that either I don't know why I'm still like protective I don't

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want to spoil things but they do address the age in a pretty fucking hilarious way okay but these two

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that he's hitting on are technically adults okay it's the girl he tries to marry the underage yeah

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okay okay I was like yeah that you know like bisexual yay pito not so much you know he's a lot better

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in the in the musical I think oh well I mean the bar wasn't that very hot yeah no I'll tell you

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about it actually because today we're talking all about beetle juice the movie and it relates to

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the Pacific Northwest because I went to a show here in Portland that's the connection I love it

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I love it what I want it's my podcast yeah right right and then it's my episode I think

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yeah that's what I'm gonna say right yeah that's better let's talk about some weird facts about the

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movie beetlejuice okay poltergeist became the highest grossing horror film of 1982 if you haven't

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seen poltergeist I don't know where you've been recently or like have at least heard about the plot

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basically a poltergeist which is a ghost who like moves things and throw things in as crazy yeah

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it terrorizes a family who moves into a house on a burial plot yeah it's like a burial ground burial ground

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right not all the chestnut yeah so it's the basic plot well six years later a little movie came out that

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reverses that narrative where a human family is the one causing the recently deceased distress

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oh yes god that's it's been so long that movie is the one and only Beetlejuice say that three times

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fast I wouldn't even I wouldn't even dare I wouldn't try just Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

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he didn't come I'll just play with my worm

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so the movie did pretty well uh the 10 highest grossing film in 1988 okay great lens year of birth

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yeah I'm gonna have to stop saying that soon why giving away your birth yeah because people can do the

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math yeah gross speaking of gross I was curious what the high what the highest grossing film of 1988

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was because beetle juice was the me too so clearly I googled it because it's a tangent yeah

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and what I found is kind of funny it was who framed Roger Rabbit which we just talked about

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and you're like I'm not I can't picture this movie really yeah that was the highest grossing it was

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the gear of my birth yeah it's a good movie I told you okay I mean those little right gangster weasels

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in zoot suits I'm telling you it's hilarious all right I mean the film even scored Timmy B his first

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Oscar that's Tim Burton oh okay I was gonna say you and Timmy B you guys are buds yeah we are okay

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okay and Timmy B and it also won a Saturn award for best movie ever made what wait what this

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Saturn award I don't know but it was the best horror movie of 1990 is what it won I mean is Beetlejuice

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really considered a horror movie apparently I mean it's scary to kids I'm assuming it wasn't

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scary to me but I remember seeing it and I was scared at the time I don't think I would think it was

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scary now yeah no it's not like yeah and we'll talk about it later we'll talk about the special

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effects I'm so excited beetle juice even sandwormed its way into the number 88 spot on the American

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film institute list of top 100 funniest American movies wow is it a horror is it funny I well it's

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funny it was okay and here's the thing it debuted in 88 and it's number 88 yeah I just wow

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isn't that weird that is weird co-winky beans weird you know how I love the numbers me to speaking of

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numbers one year after the film was released there was an animated series did you ever see that

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I feel like I vaguely recall I can send you the um um intro do it because when I watched

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the intro to this I was like oh my god it totally took me back I remember watching this I definitely

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watched this at some point it is kind of interesting though that they made it into a cartoon for kids

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because it's not really a kids movie um which brings me to kind of a fun fact about me I might have

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told this before I don't remember but I used to watch beetle juice all the time growing up you did

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except it was the version that my mom recorded from the TV with commercials all of the naughty parts

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cut out so I grew up thinking like yeah this is a kids movie right like there's no naughty thing oh my

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god that's so funny the uncut version later on and I just fall even more deeply in love with this

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movie because it's fucking hilarious and it's dirty and beetle juice is the dirtiest old man and I just

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I love him oh my god even though eventually everything worked out like creepy wonderful magic with

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this movie it took some convincing by Tim Burton Timmy B to get the cast on board because they thought

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that it was too weird I mean I can see it I can see it too but I'm glad that it happened because it's

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like the best kind of weird yeah yeah and the movie's success even brought about a sequel

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and I know what you're thinking there is a sequel coming out in September but this is not the

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sequel I'm talking about wait what it was called "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" have you ever seen it?

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no I've never even heard of that there's a reason for that it was never made thank fucking god oh okay it

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was like I don't that doesn't sound familiar at all yeah it was never made surprisingly despite

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having a full-ass script and Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder on board okay old Timmy B

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Timmy he thought Timmy B he decided to do Batman and said he thought that that might be a better way

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to go and I think the entire world agrees yeah that Batman would have is better than beetle juice goes

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Hawaiian yeah that's true yeah oh oh boy Michael Keaton Batman I think he has to be because it was

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in New Girl so it has to be true yeah yeah I mean no I was gonna say I'm pretty sure he was at some

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play yeah yeah so Batman Beetlejuice same thing yeah you know mostly glad they didn't like

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totally ruin like the Beetlejuice franchise like god can you imagine yeah I'm glad they waited

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for 2024 because I think wait so is it now coming out yeah it's coming out September 2024 the wine one

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no it's called beetle juice too it's not Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian I think that project is

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officially scrapped okay it's got fingers crossed although I would I don't know I kind of want to

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see like how that train ref would go yeah but I don't know I think hopefully this new version will

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just like enhance everything and not not break it down yeah I mean we're gonna find out

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do you like coincidences scaling no do you like when I can say coincidences correctly

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kind of not like I'm drunk I don't believe in coincidences first of all but I mean you know that's

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because I'm the true crime gal you don't believe that the coincidence of the fire and the shining hotel

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we were just talking about it and you were fully convinced on that coincidence no I definitely was not

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you were trying to convince me there is kind of a weird coincidence well there's kind of a

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couple weird coincidences in beetle juice and the first one is at one point this is a quote from

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the movie beetle juice says I've seen the exorcist about 167 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it

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and that's like one of the best that's like one of the best lines I've ever heard my entire life

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um yeah but it's interesting because Gina Davis who plays Barbara in 2016 they made a new like

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television version of the exorcist and she plays the adult Reagan and really yeah also Linda Blair

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who plays the child Reagan in the movie the exorcist yeah she was actually briefly considered for the role

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of Barbara interesting like a little circley mix of weirdness here right yeah if you want even more

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weird uh Tim Burton wanted originally Sammy Davis Jr. to play beetle juice it's kind of a weird

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I don't know I don't know I'm not sure how this all makes me feel I'm gonna put it out and then

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I'm gonna have maybe Caitlin talk through it with me I'm not sure okay yeah so it's obviously like

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probably wouldn't have fit the character how how the movie ended up turning out um there's a

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really big reason for that though why the character is the way it is the original script was actually

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very very different from how the movie eventually turns out um beetle juice's character was supposed to

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be like really demonic like wings like creepy like not funny creepy the way he is but like actually scary

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really okay so that makes sense why maybe it was sort of categorized as a horror film yeah maybe

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because it originally technically was yeah so I got most of these facts from the IMDb like trivia

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about the movie and I'll link it with you guys um so in here I'm just gonna quote what it says because I'm not

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I don't know like how to put this in my own words it's kind of it's interesting they say originally

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conceived as a winged and demonic presence taking human form as a small middle eastern man

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subsequent drafts made him more African-American and he spoke a kind of pigeon dialect

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wow okay so so they were basically making the dark man evil and demonic yeah I was gonna say sounds

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real racist yeah so okay at first I was kind of like well why I mean why couldn't be able to do

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he could be a black eye like who cares but I mean yeah the way that they originally wrote it kind

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of is just like yeah we do we need that I mean come on no no no there's enough vilifying I

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vilifying any person yeah of color yeah it's that's pretty yucky I'm totally fine with it being a

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white guy I believe yeah the literal words listen they are the worst and I don't think they've

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gotten their fair share okay exactly but anyway so I like I don't know I can really

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word that in my own words I didn't really sure how he felt about it so I read it out loud and I was

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like no I kind of know how I feel about it yeah okay I'm glad we agree yeah no that's pretty yucky

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but we can move on to something funny yeah and I'm like I've said it before I'm glad that this movie

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did not go that way because that that would have just it wouldn't have been a movie like it would have

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been good no no none of us to rate our still be talking about it exactly yeah not at all but what

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would have been maybe an interesting movie as if Beetlejuice was Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm sorry what

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to me be did consider Arnold Schwarzenegger for the role of Beetlejuice Arnold Arnien S well Arnie S

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asked he turned it down he was like I'm busy like being an action star like that is not a bit it's

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just it's not a match no it ain't it not ain't it no no the title character Beetlejuice only has

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14 and a half minutes on screen really yes and despite the movie's official spelling of the name

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Beetlejuice his name is actually spelled B-E-T-E-L-G-E-U-S-E which is also pronounced Beetlejuice just

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yeah radically different spelling and it you do see it in the movie like on his headstone and stuff

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yeah was gonna say that's yeah but they decided like for marketing and stuff people being able

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to pronounce the movie name without being confused yeah it's probably better okay okay but he is

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named after a red orange star in the Orion constellation I'm sorry what that stars name is Beetlejuice

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there's a star named Beetlejuice and Beetlejuice is named after it okay ain't that cute

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this is brand new information isn't really yeah no I've never I've never heard that before good I'm

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glad I'm like telling people things they don't know that's so wild yeah I've never heard that before

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I had heard it before um but I yeah I'm like Beetlejuice in formation so uh that's not weird that I know

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that no but there's a lot I didn't know about the movie like most of the stuff I really didn't know

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including the fact that Tim Burton described Beetlejuice to Michael Keaton as

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having lived in every time period and no time period because he's Tim Burton okay and apparently

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talks and riddles uh so Michael Keaton was like the fuck do I do with that information yeah so he

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ends up basically creating the entire character himself yeah yeah uh that makes sense

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even his hair his makeup like the mold they put on his face all of this was Michael Keaton's doing

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okay he even ad-lipped ad-lipped ad-lipped he even ad-lipped 90% of his lines really so they just threw

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this man out there and was like you know say like this and then maybe do do whatever you think

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and uh we'll make that the movie that makes it so hard for the other actors to know what the

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fuck there's supposed to do I mean it's kind of fun I think yeah it can be but that's just like a lot

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of create like having the actor create that much is a lot but it's thankfully it fucking works

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I think it it totally worked yeah this is funny too because Michael Keaton actually

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based this character off of somebody else in another horror film which again links it back to horror

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he based his character on a character named Chop Top from the movie the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

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oh that's so rich familiar I've never seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 I've seen one uh

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but I don't like horror so I kind of like do that when I watch it but this one I might watch it now

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because this character let me show you because I think I think based on it's like it's like it's like

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strongly like heavily based on you guys should definitely go watch the link I'll put the link in

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we'll probably end up posting a photo to be as late the resemblance is just the teeth he even has

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green hair he's all pasty I didn't watch the full clip he has a hanger and I don't want to know what's

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happening why are you still watching it I can't stop weren't I'm not watching this movie uh yeah

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okay I just wanted you to hear the voice and like see everything because he doesn't but I just like

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I couldn't stop I could not stop what was he doing I don't want to know

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so weird it's so weird but did you hear the voice yeah isn't that beetle like it has like the like

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country-ish like yeah I always say country I mean southern well it doesn't really sound southern

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I don't know it's like it sounds backwards yeah it's trying to be nice

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yeah well I don't know that calling that southern is nice I don't know why I'm like uh trying to be

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nice those gross character anyway apparently once Keaton got his whole beetle jiu shit together

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like the outfit he shows up on set he's ready to go in the crew and the cast were so excited they were

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chanting juice juice that's amazing because I mean imagine him walking in for the first time you're

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working on this movie you know what's supposed to happen you see the set and then you see

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the beetle juice if I can come walking out like I would chant too that's just cool yeah so this

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is actually Michael Keaton's favorite movie he says really and you know who absolutely like

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doesn't like this movie and thinks it's his worst Alec Baldwin which like he's really good in this

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movie I love that character I mean like no offense but like has he done that many other movies like

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I don't know I mean he did really good on SNL yeah and then he was in that one movie that really

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went off gangbusters oh I forgot about that that's really sad yeah oh let's be nice to him I just

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wish he liked this movie because like everyone else does you know I I don't know I mean

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maybe there's something to this like is this man to be trusted doesn't like beetle juice

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some guessing he's not gonna be in the sequel I'm you know probably not darn it

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well that's sad oh well I hope he's okay anyway moving on so like I said a lot of things about this

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movie changed including the title origin do you want to guess what the original title is I mean no

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it's like super basic it's like the most basic of all the basic things that ever basic I had more

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basic than beetle juice beetle juice isn't basic that's like that's the coolest name I know I know

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but it's like the characters names like how do you get more basic than that I like I it was called house

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ghosts house yeah that's like the boringest thing about who's doing house goes house goes and then I guess

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kind of as a joke but I'm not I don't I don't think it was a joke uh to me be suggested that they

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name it scared sheetless I'm sorry but they like totally took it seriously and considered it which

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I don't I feel like it wasn't a joke yeah but that would have been like kind of a cool title but not

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not like beetle juice beetle juice is unbeatable but scared sheetless is pretty good yeah I just I don't

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think that I will ever recover from scared sheetless scared sheetless okay because they because they

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got their sheets and then they take them off I'm just saying like scared sheetless sounds like it could

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be a movie like something to do with the clan oh and that would be like kind of a turn off I was

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seeing like porn porn I don't know scared sheetless like a scared you don't want to be scared yeah I don't

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know I mean some you know we're not sure to yuck your yum yeah unless you know unless you are part of

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the club yeah yeah let's not no thanks but I also think it probably wouldn't have been as like

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kid friendly I guess yeah because it was obviously very kid friendly yeah old Timmy B are you guys

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gonna take a bite yet Timmy B okay what do you guys think I care what you think though

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he actually did not like the now famous infamous scene with the dayo song and the shrimpies popping

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up out of the table grabbing full spaces you know the banana boat song oh god it's been so long

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it's been so long day like come and me one go home yeah I remember the shrimp

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so it's like the ghost basically possessing them to do this song and dance anyway don't you see it like

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that's a great scene but yeah Burton didn't really like it he thought it was like kind of boring and stupid

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apparently so okay whatever Timmy B we even cares what you think like do you even make movies I mean come on

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what he did like though was the kind of fake looking like not very good special effects which were

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on purpose he really liked the look of like the B movie special effects I guess which I do too I think

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especially with it being a comedy which they mention it's like it is kind of better that they

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didn't take it super serious and like put really good special effects on it because it just would have

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been well it wouldn't be funny yeah it wouldn't be that funny it would have definitely been more of a

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scary movie yeah yeah and that's actually funny too because they there's a point in the movie where

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Beetlejuice shows his scary face so I don't know if you've seen like the the couple makes their face

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is like scary like polar nose out and do weird show their face oh yeah yeah so Beetlejuice has one too

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but you never actually see it in the movie you will see it from behind but they actually made the

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full front of his face like they did a whole elaborate really like makeup effect on him but they

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thought that it was funnier only like just showing it from behind and not actually showing you what it

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looked like so they didn't ever actually show it from the front I mean I could see that yeah yeah

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but it is kind of funny from the back because it's like snakes that come out and they like yeah they're

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weird also the freaking gorgeous house is just a facade built on a farm filled filled filled filled

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filled the farm filled the speaking of some of the effects from the movie there is at one point a

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giant merry go round that comes out and the head on it is like a skeleton head yeah and it's definitely

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a jackskellington head yeah and this was pre nightmare before Christmas so like Tim Burton I guess

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has a good idea sometimes and he like keeps putting them in movies and drawing them until they have

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their own movie I guess yeah it really is like this interwoven world yeah yeah I don't like

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obviously I don't think he meant it to be because jackskellington wasn't a thing yet yeah so I don't

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think he meant like purposely put it in there like oh I'm putting jackskellington in this movie I think

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it was just like a cool character that he wanted to I don't know I don't know for sure I could be wrong

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you never know yeah he is a brilliant evil genius yes and the wise the evil I heard he kicks holes

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in walls and just like not about that way that I mean that seems a little intense yeah he's like an

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intense guy yeah it gets mad and frustrated and I've watched a lot of documentaries oh no yeah

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anyway also I think it's pretty funny I don't know so spoiler alert the couple in the movie dies

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within like the first five minutes of the movie it's not really a spoiler it's like what if you

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haven't seen it maybe skip forward like 30 seconds because I'm gonna spoil something for you

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so all these years later I know how do I ride I don't know if you remember how they die they were

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in a car and like a dog runs in front of them yeah I'm kind of like break and swerve yeah well there's

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a bumper sticker on the back of their car that you see in the beginning of the movie it says I

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break for animals oh it's not sad it's like it's like a depressing foreshadowing yeah yeah oh that's

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kind of a mermaid I know I mean I'm laughing because the movie they die like that's what happens but

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yeah you know the movie is about them being ghosts so it's like it's okay it's funny it's not so sad

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have you heard of the invisible string theory it's all over TikTok or I think I've heard of it I don't

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I haven't engaged also Taylor Swift has a song called an invisible string this episode is not

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about her okay okay all right basically it's like you know you're you woven together you're on a

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string to your person and eventually you will connect with each other that's the basis of the theory

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yeah actually two girls one goes just an episode on it's really good yeah it's really cute you

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should go listen to it if you want to know what it is but there's kind of a little invisible string

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theory relationship with this movie and I think it's so fucking adorable we're gonna talk about

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her real quick I know you're gonna love it do you know Catherine O'Hara is oh god Deelia

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she's the sound so familiar yeah okay yeah okay okay why am I not going fucking um

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home alone no what's the the show Schitt's Creek Schitt's Creek oh my god yeah she's been in so many good

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on programs movies I love shows yeah she's great she's amazing and she deserved this

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so she actually met her husband on the set he was the production designer named Bo Welsh oh

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and she actually wasn't even originally supposed to be in this film really yes

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Deelia Deetz was cast as Angelica Houston who was Mortisha Addams yeah I just don't know that I see

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it though oh yeah I don't really I could I can kind of see it because she has the you know like

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New York like she could be like the artistic creepy lady from New York you know what I mean

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yeah like not cool creepy but like yeah I could see it but it definitely was better the way it turned out

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yeah I think so I think this was meant for her for sure and it was definitely better that it turned

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out for them too because yeah I mean they would have met some time at another time because you know

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they're strong together but it was just it's kind of sweet how like oh I wasn't supposed to be here

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but then I was and I met my husband and they're still together like what yeah that's so cute

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and actually it says in here that Bo Welsh didn't even know like he was allowed it talk to the actors

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so he kind of waited until the end and then he finally asked her out oh that's adorable we love a

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meat cue yeah not everyone can meet in a church okay not everyone can meet on the set of Beetlejuice

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you see there yeah it's true it's true I mean their thing is cool too I guess so I brought you up with

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the love and then I'm bringing right back down with the death I'm laughing sorry the movies about that

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it's funny okay and as goofy and amazing as this movie is it does revolve around so there are a few

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not so fun facts okay great so there is a point where Barbara and Adam are in like at the afterlife

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office where they go into that I can't remember what it's called land of the dead or something yeah I

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think that's what it was not something they go through the door yeah they're in the dead world and

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they're there's like a whole business going on back yeah and at one point there was an announcement

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of flight 409 is arriving at gate three and sadly there was a flight 409 that did crash

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into a mountain in Wyoming in October 1935 and it did kill all of the passengers on board all

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of the passengers all the crew oh I just got like chills I don't like yeah like I'm freezing right

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now all of a sudden I don't like it at the time it was one of the worst plane crashes in history

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but they still don't know why this particular plane crashed so that's really sad too I guess they

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didn't get that the black box thing yeah I don't I don't think that was a thing I don't know in 1955

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yeah when did the black box thing start coming around I don't know but it certainly not in 1955

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okay so yeah no they still don't know why it crashed which is okay great but that's not the only

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mess casualty they reference in the movie remember do you remember the football team there's

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like a whole thing with a football team in the movie yeah and they like dance with the with

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Lydia at the end yeah they were actually based on a real football team Marshall university football team

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all right who oh gosh this is so sad 37 of their players passed away on a southern airways flight oh no

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it was flight 932 okay but they did change the colors of their uniforms so that's good no okay

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I was like I don't know I know I think it's kind of sad that they're like I know the movie is about

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debt I keep saying that the movie is about death but like it's kind of interesting it's an interesting

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choice to use like real life things in a movie like that but I don't know they're just little references too

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so yeah yeah I think in some of the instances if they changed some of the details to sort of like

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try to reference it but not be like to on the nose or to direct with it I think if they did have

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the uniforms I think that would that would have been like too much yeah if they like looked like

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dead football players that were actually dead football players like that would be a little sad

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that maybe yeah I don't know that's such a tough thing because everybody probably feel if you ask

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five people on the street about that they probably would each feel differently yeah let's you know

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but I still love the movie of course so the man who wrote Beatles Jews is Michael McDowell I think he

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passed away before it was made I want to say really I think and that name sounds sort of familiar

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this guy was totally obsessed with death he wrote like a dissertation titled America American attitudes

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toward death okay you know studied it constantly his whole life he had like murder,

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bilia like death memorabilia post-mortem images stuff like that so he collected all of that kind of

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stuff so it's kind of like a no like no wonder he wrote his whole movie about death how many times

382
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have I said that now it looks like they actually um north western university has his collection

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of memorabilia and oh it says they had an exhibit in 2013 so I don't know if that's like maybe

384
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still around somewhere or not but that'd be kind of interesting yeah to see a bunch of death stuff

385
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death stuff together in one room so the ending of the movie is really sweet it's

386
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Lydia the human girl kind of has like new ghosty parents but like her other parents live with them

387
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too they split the house everyone's happy because her parents weren't like the greatest to her

388
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but now I know how it's like these ghost parents who are sweet and anyway it's a sweet ending but

389
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it wasn't always that sweet there was an alternate ending where Lydia too became a ghost oh

390
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meaning she had to die she did yeah yeah um which is not great also she died in a fire like

391
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interesting I chose to talk about a fire at the beginning of those and I totally forgot that part

392
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yikes but also they they kind of were like maybe we better not because teenage girls might think it

393
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was cool to off themselves and be on ghosts yeah probably not the most responsible portrayal in media

394
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yeah it was already like she was kind of writing you know she wrote a suicide letter in the

395
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yeah and that's what's tattooed on the hand in my shirt where she's like I am alone and she

396
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scratches that I am utterly alone hmm hmm plummeted anyway oh so that part always kind of like

397
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I don't know like kind of always made me uncomfortable yeah she's she's gonna kill herself like

398
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watching it and like growing up watching it like slowly realizing what she's actually saying

399
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is kind of a weird thing so yeah but that they didn't kill her at the end that would have been

400
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fucking terrible yeah no I think that would have just been another thing for you to talk to a therapist

401
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about yeah you know this could be a whole nother podcast episode on how awful beetle juice was for

402
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American history and all these people and here I am over here like sponsor us better help

403
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:44,000
that too that too yeah I mean I think we we're the poster children of your cause really

404
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:51,600
of me really mental health yeah we seriously we need we really need help well I'm gonna end with

405
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some fun facts so maybe we would don't need help like right away this is gonna make us feel better

406
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,880
have you seen the tv show community I haven't seen it yeah oh you have yeah okay so you're gonna

407
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get this I hope so I'm a goldfish they had a little Easter egg in there were each season they would

408
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:16,640
say beetle juice one time and then the last time they say Beetlejuice there's a guy in a Halloween

409
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costume in the background just dressed like Beetlejuice that walks by oh my god I think it's so cute

410
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I'm like that's that's a thing I would put in a show if I were creating a show oh yeah yeah the movie

411
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was also the first DVD that Netflix them don't remember when they did that we're back in 1998

412
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1998 the first big of his side notes um I think I have to go jump off a bridge now because apparently

413
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I'm ancient if you are younger than us and you don't know that Netflix used to physically nail

414
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physical DVDs which were little discs that movies used to be on that you would have to put like a

415
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CD I don't do yeah I know what a CD if they don't know what a DVD is they don't know what a CD is

416
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damn it anyway uh yeah they just recently got rid of that and sorry mom gonna call you out she's

417
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she still use that service up until they got rid of it and she's like yeah they're getting rid of

418
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all oh honestly I would have used it too I totally wouldn't but she's right I mean they don't have

419
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every movie to stream and if you don't want to pay extra and be lazy you want to wait for it in the

420
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mail yeah I don't do that okay the last fun fact I have for you is that last year 2023 uh tvs and tn t

421
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they aired Beetle just 24 hours for Halloween kind of like they do with a Christmas story during Christmas

422
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:58,480
oh nice yeah that's adorable do you think we should do some tarot for this yes let's do some tarot

423
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:12,880
orvisually okay I'm ready Beetlejuice that was a shitty bridge I hope I hope you couldn't see that

424
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I did Beetlejuice oh I feel it oh I feel the energy I was a good one of the ghost with the most

425
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oh boy I have a crush on you I have a crush on the weirdest fucking character you really do okay I'm so

426
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:42,080
sorry hey listen let's not summon demons in this new pod lab uh well we're about to Beetlejuice

427
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okay I guess I need to put up more signs okay one of them is gonna say don't summon demons in the

428
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pod lab the other one's gonna say please do not do coke in the bathroom funny okay can I spoil one

429
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:03,120
more thing for the musical seriously yeah if you don't want to hear this fast forward 30 seconds

430
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:12,000
one of the first songs he talks about doing like lines of coke what it's so funny he's like he's the

431
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,360
best best version of Beetlejuice I've ever seen he's like the dirtiest like drugiest he's like wolf

432
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:25,920
of Wall Street beat Beetlejuice it's hilarious it's great that's amazing it's a good time don't bring

433
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:33,040
your kids yeah don't yeah it sounds like probably don't bring your kids oh I shuffled more again okay oh

434
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yeah you don't cut that out no oh okay I feel it I feel it I feel it she's feeling okay it's like

435
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this one right here it's kind of sticking out get her king of sticks which is the king of

436
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swords which is the big dick energy oh do you think Beetle juice has BDE probably I mean he acts like

437
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,840
he does yeah is that what big dick energy is though like big it to you make it or is it like

438
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:16,240
you truly have it no I think yeah you don't need to show it off right exactly like rich people don't

439
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:23,680
flaunt their money you know okay like if you got a BDE you ain't trying to show everybody that you got

440
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:31,680
BDE so he doesn't but he thinks he does men his head get shrunk at the end because he

441
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:43,120
grope so woman's thigh okay so king of swords right yes car okay sword he words wait

442
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:52,080
am I wrong is it once I don't know I've been wrong the entire I'm just gonna say I'm right I don't know

443
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:59,920
we have to cut that whole part of them wrong everything related to that well wand sword I mean either way

444
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:10,320
very foul like well god yeah look at the cards and we'll build two cups coins or pinnacles yeah oh I

445
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:23,600
think okay so stings oh blades okay so it is king of wand sorry guys listen okay sword wand either way

446
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:31,040
quit playing with your dinghy at the table well it's because it said sticks to that's what you me off

447
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,840
because I think I'm a 12 year old boy so when you have sticks you stick by it yeah yeah like

448
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:41,360
their swords okay see I don't feel so bad for jumping to conclusions no I don't think you should

449
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,640
either way we got there either way he doesn't have BDE so if it was a BDE card I think maybe the

450
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:52,640
fact that I thought it was brought up the conversation you know I think it was an important topic

451
00:54:52,640 --> 00:55:00,880
I think so yeah yeah I'm leaving that all in yeah suck it suck it tell me about the king of ones all right

452
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:11,760
keywords are leadership self confidence success good fortune and loyalty it's a success yeah

453
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:22,320
it's success no fucking way okay another spoiler fast forwarder email I have a shock

454
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:28,080
class that I told you I wasn't gonna tell you what it's what it meant is success yes so there's a whole

455
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:37,040
thing in the in the musical about success it sucks it first but then it's like yeah sucks yes

456
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:47,200
sucks yes um that's really funny that's amazing as Biffits a king the king of ones often appears

457
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:57,040
seated on a throne wearing a handsome robe and a crown he's a dignified man who exudes confidence

458
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:05,520
authority and power yet he doesn't seem at all threatening that's interesting that is interesting

459
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:12,560
in fact he's usually shown as a handsome and benevolent ruler in a reading the king may

460
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:21,360
signify an actual person when he does it's generally a mature man who's obtained a position of wealth

461
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:28,400
and status perhaps the head of a business or a leader in the community oh interesting the upright

462
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:36,160
king is a fortunate card regardless of the situation if he represents a real person it's someone

463
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:45,440
you can trust and rely on to do the right thing he's a loyal friend a fair-minded employer a wise

464
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:54,080
advisor a competent and honest leader I feel like where this is going is like this is what beetle

465
00:56:54,080 --> 00:57:00,320
juice was trying to yeah be when he was like doing the commercials like I can help you I'm like

466
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:09,200
dude you're great yeah this intelligent man has high ideals he's an active energetic

467
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:16,240
independent individual with a passion for life and an adventurous nature passion for life

468
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:23,040
is interesting too because he just like wants to marry her so that he can like come back whenever he

469
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:30,240
wants yeah is the point hmm in a reading about money you can expect good things to come

470
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,840
your way when the king appears sometimes the king means getting a raise that adventure will pay

471
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:46,160
off or that you have financial support if the reading is about your job success is assured success

472
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:55,040
success yeah the king may indicate a promotion or recognition for your efforts it can also show

473
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:03,440
you moving into a position of authority now is a good time to take a chance for victory is yours

474
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:10,000
I think this is like a card he wanted to fall like yeah this is like this is what really happened

475
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:18,800
to you guys yeah it's the total opposite of him yeah in a question about love the king of ones plays

476
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:26,480
or says the relationship is a strong one that's interesting it says the relationship is a strong one

477
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,840
with plenty of affection and passion do you remember the part where he like covers her mouth with

478
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:41,840
he like covers her mouth and does her voice for her that's interesting interesting perhaps

479
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:49,760
between two lively creative outgoing people there's one other extra excerpt here okay

480
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:58,800
bully card in the extreme the reverse king of ones can be the bully card as Mary K. Greer writes

481
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:07,120
in the complete book of tarot reversals you might oppose others simply as a display of one

482
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:15,760
upmanship oh my god that's beetle juice oh my god listen to this you can be aggressive and abuse

483
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:22,960
others like a bully or a common done with no humanity this is like perfect I was waiting I was like

484
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,640
there's gotta be something because I think this is the total opposite right but I think it's meant

485
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,480
to be that way because like this is the way he wants you to see him and this is the way

486
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,640
yes nick a little snake I like that ooh sneaky little sandwich yeah yeah well

487
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:48,720
fan worm well fan worm so he's got like kind of crazy pointy hair too I mean it's orange yeah it's

488
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:56,640
orange red like the beetle juice star but he's named after oh I did not even think about that

489
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:05,120
oh your shirt you have like a yellow and um right on your shirt too yeah and he's holding a stick

490
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:14,640
in the desert which could be like the sandworm yeah the land of the dead right nailed it okay I think

491
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:22,000
I nailed this one you guys nailed it he's a ghost in a sheet uh-huh I mean that's why I picked this

492
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,960
deck I don't think there's a card in it without a ghost one sheet so I really like had a really good

493
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:34,320
shot there yeah yeah the physical and emotional nature to which this card is attributed is dark

494
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:48,160
ardent why what does ardent and life mean lie yeah lie t_h_e ardent is a word that like I knew what

495
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:55,280
that meant a little bit better but lie that in that context didn't really make sense to me because

496
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:06,720
some um in some context it it's like can be mild or meek or like easily bend it can also mean like

497
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:12,880
thin so I'm like are we talking about like oh physically thin like kind of a metaphorical thin

498
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:20,480
meaning that you just are sort of like you bend to the will of others or but ardent is sort of a

499
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:29,840
it's intense feeling or like it's an impassioned plea yeah my heart is in love for you yeah because

500
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:40,000
the next word is so it's ardent live animated impassioned um and noble which obviously we the flip

501
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,920
side of that was the noble part but it's interesting it yeah it says dark and ardent and animated like

502
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,440
yeah yeah it's just so animated yeah wow that's interesting I'm glad you looked at that because all

503
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:58,320
of those are like really kind of yeah those are like super critical keywords for there's a couple more

504
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:06,560
to it says down below it says meanings dark man friendly countrymen which is that's interesting

505
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:19,040
we literally talked about his accent and generally married he's trying to be interesting oh it's also

506
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:25,520
connected to the symbol of the lion too which is that's kind of that's yeah

507
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:35,840
rar okay that's interesting but actually fit better than I

508
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:42,160
better than I thought when I pulled it even when I thought it was a sword yeah nice now that

509
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:49,520
totally fits I love that well did you guys notice anything else in the reading that we did not

510
01:02:49,520 --> 01:03:00,720
know days about the battle juice beetle juice beetle juice beetle juice have a creepy ass day see you

511
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:07,280
next Tuesday unless we summon you faster than that we're gonna say all your names three times

512
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:17,600
we might be here a while then we're gonna be here a while either way yeah yeah true I won't have

513
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:23,840
the same word next time and I won't mention Taylor Swift I promise I make no such promise if she

514
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:31,280
brings it up it doesn't count yeah oh there's eyeballs in here cute you love those

515
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:47,840
buying sucks yeah sucks yes I hit start recording on OBS it drives Chris nuts that I say

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OBS it's not OBS it's OBS it's a meme and a gif and it's Nikon Nikon it's like I'm never saying it's

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