A Glimpse 'Through The Veil’

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,760 [MUSIC] 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,400 We get a lot of people who come in and they're like, I don't really know what I am, 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,640 but I'm interested in all of this. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,360 And that's where Courtney and August have created this amazing community that there are just so 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,880 many people to ask and so many people that come to these kinds of things. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,120 And Courtney and August are so knowledgeable that they can usually point you in the right direction 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,000 and be like, oh hey, there's this book over here, there's book over here. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,360 That's what I love the most about the shop is that Courtney and August, they run it not just 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,760 as a shop but as a community meeting place. 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:40,720 [MUSIC] 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Hi, Caitlyn. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Hi, Cassie. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,480 Hi, creepy people. 14 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,520 Hello. 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,920 If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:59,840 true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy or witchy in the Pacific Northwest. 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,760 We do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into the topic. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 So make sure you stick around if you're into that. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,400 And if you're not, then I'm not even really sure why you're here, but I guess welcome. 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,920 Thanks. 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,240 You can listen to the other stuff, I guess it's fine. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:26,960 But this episode, we actually did an Oracle reading and a rune reading. 23 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,880 Yes. 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,640 And Caitlyn missed it all. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,040 Oh, it hurt. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Her heart hurt. I felt really bad. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:43,040 We even talked about you because I was like, I feel so bad because she had to sit through all 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,600 of the creepy dolls interview and then she doesn't even get to do the witchy interview. 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Yeah, you know what? That is my luck. That's what that is. 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,120 And so I'm sorry, also, spoiler alert, there might be some creepy dolls coming. 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,640 I'm just going to throw that out there. 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 I was wondering why you said that rather than their names. 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,000 And I was going to say they're such lovely people. 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,960 And I remember. 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Because we haven't talked to them yet, technically. 36 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,280 That you guys have heard on this timeline. 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:21,040 But this time we are talking with a local witchy shop called Through the Veil. 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,400 And they are in Hillsboro in the Orenco area. 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,520 They're kind of tucked back in from the main strip, but very easy to find. 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,080 And it's just magical and they sell magical things. 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Yeah. 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,720 And I am so excited for future. 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,960 Caitlyn. 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,160 And also Cassie. 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,040 She will be there. 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,080 But yeah, very excited for future us tomorrow us. 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,360 We're going to go. 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,640 And Caitlyn's never been. 49 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,000 I've been a bunch of times. 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Actually, in this episode, we're going to talk about it. 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,840 But they have gatherings. 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,640 And they had a full moon gathering that I went to. 53 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,120 It was really fun. 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,720 The moon was just out. 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,160 It was shining on all of us. 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,360 We had a fire pit. 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,880 We did a meditation, a group meditation. 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,160 It was really fun. 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,480 That just sounds so lovely. 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Yeah. 61 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Do you want to know what I did? 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,000 No. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:31,440 I gave my dog antibiotics and I gave her an Epsom salt soak. 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,400 So that was. 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,920 If you want to know about that story, join our Patreon and listen to Book Discussion. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Yeah, I cannot tell that story twice. 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Yeah. 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:48,000 I intentionally did not tell Cassie everything that occurred because I was like, 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 I can't keep telling this story. 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,080 And dog mom problems. 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,720 No. 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,120 So yeah, she couldn't join because of dog problems. 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,480 But never fear, I was not alone. 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Because when she know it, I ran into our Patreon Courtney. 75 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Amazing. 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Who we ran into also at the two girls one go show. 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,800 I just, I can't with this. 78 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,600 It was so funny. 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,600 I saw her and I was like, oh my god again. 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Like, yeah. 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 But it was really excited because I was like, thank gosh, 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,080 I have someone here with me that I know. 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,520 And not like people were not friendly and not nice. 84 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,440 But you know, you just don't know anybody. 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,520 And it's, yeah, I'm sure ability. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,320 You know? 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,040 So it's nice. 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Thank you Courtney. 89 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,240 Thanks for being my buddy for the night. 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Buddy. 91 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,160 My full moon buddy. 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,040 Yeah. 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Because her other full moon buddy was having a real full moon night. 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:46,880 No. 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Yeah. 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,720 Like an ER doctor. 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Moon night. 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:50,960 So. 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,920 Oh boy. 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Lovely. 101 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Yeah. 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,640 That was fun. 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Should we get into this episode? 104 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,840 I suppose so. 105 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:00,240 All right. 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Bye, Caitlyn. 107 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,600 Get outa here. 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Okay. 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Okay. 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,000 So today we're with Courtney and Lizzy. 111 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,280 And Courtney is owner of a local shop called Through the Veil. 112 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,000 And Lizzy runs some of the events there. 113 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,720 Is that correct? 114 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Yes. 115 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,120 All right. 116 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Well, Courtney, do you want to tell us a little bit about your beautiful shop 117 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,840 and how it all came to be? 118 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:26,320 So it is a witch shop. 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,000 I guess how it came to be a few years ago. 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,960 My husband and I were dating then. 121 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,480 Of course, we weren't married yet. 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,560 And we went to Salem, Massachusetts. 123 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,920 And I saw all the witchy shops there and just fell in love with that whole 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,280 environment and such. 125 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:44,240 How could you not? 126 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,040 I know. 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,280 And Salem is like the best place for it. 128 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:47,440 So. 129 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,720 So yeah, so he had owned a spiritual shop before. 130 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,920 It was more of like all different spiritualities and religions. 131 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,160 So he he'd done that for like, I think four years or something. 132 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,240 And he'd worked in other metaphysical shops. 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,200 So he was very adamant that he was done with that life. 134 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,200 And he did not want to do it again. 135 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:14,400 I don't know how I put the bug in his ear, but the whole drive back 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,680 from Massachusetts to Michigan. 137 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,640 It's like a seven hour drive. 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,080 I was like, well, if we had a shop, we would carry these items. 139 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,520 And like, we're making a list in a journal and doing all this stuff like totally hypothetically. 140 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,160 But eventually, I think he he warmed up to the idea. 141 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,760 And even moving to Oregon, he did not want to come to Portland area right away. 142 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,920 He had lived here in the past. 143 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Oh, really? 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,600 I can't imagine why. 145 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Right. 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Yeah. 147 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:47,600 So. 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,440 But yeah, eventually we ended up out here. 149 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,200 We first moved to Salem. 150 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,960 We were kind of thinking, like I said, he didn't really want to do Portland again. 151 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,480 And we were kind of thinking, oh, we'll make a Salem Massachusetts of the West. 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,840 And so we were there a few months. 153 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:09,680 We just weren't finding a good property really for a store and the situation that we wanted, 154 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 which was like a live work type situation. 155 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,440 And then we found this building here and 156 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,680 everything just kind of fell into place. 157 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,440 It was meant to be. 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 It was like it. 159 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,840 So Hillsboro is probably like 20 to 30 minutes from Portland. 160 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,000 So you guys aren't in the main main city. 161 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Right. 162 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,800 And then even then you're kind of back from the main road too. 163 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:43,520 So I feel like you're kind of like tucked in this little magical section of Hillsboro. 164 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,320 It's awesome. 165 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,080 It's really close to everything. 166 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,600 But it doesn't feel like it is. 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Right. 168 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,280 And we love that about it. 169 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,080 This neighborhood, it is a neighborhood. 170 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,640 So it's, you know, regular houses all around us were the last like 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,720 but hold of a commercial type place in this this neighborhood from way back when. 172 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,560 And like this neighborhood has fought against like modernizing. 173 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Like they fought against putting in sidewalks. 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,560 They fought against putting in street lights. 175 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,360 So it's really awesome that we're kind of like 176 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,280 keeping a hold of that. 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Ruleness. 178 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,880 You love that. 179 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,240 It's like your own little bubble and kind of like what is basically a city now. 180 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,080 So it's growing so fast out here. 181 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:28,720 It's crazy. 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,000 And yes. 183 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,680 So I understand there was some remodeling involved when you when you first got the place. 184 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:36,000 Oh yeah. 185 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Yeah. 186 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,800 It's just it's an old building. 187 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,720 So it's from 1908. 188 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,520 It was originally like a mercantile, 189 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,960 grocer type building when it was built. 190 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,120 It was built by the Oregon nursing company. 191 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,200 Oh wow. 192 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Yeah. 193 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,880 And so the previous owners, I think they had gotten it in the 80s. 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 They'd done a lot to the building. 195 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,120 I know there was a fire at one point. 196 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,240 And so they had to rebuild the storefront itself. 197 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,840 And they've tried to keep everything as original as possible. 198 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,760 But by the time we got to it, it had sat for a couple of years and it had some active 199 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,120 roof leaks unfortunately. 200 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:22,080 And so that's always something that's like you had to get on top of it right away or you're 201 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,280 going to have problems. 202 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,080 So yeah. 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,760 And then they were using the storefront area for mostly woodworking. 204 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 They made some wagon wheels and stuff. 205 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:41,840 And they had a large collection of old like antiques and just various like 206 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 oddity type things and just things. 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,440 So it was not ready to be a store for sure. 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,720 We had to basically go in. 209 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,200 There was a couple of rooms built over there. 210 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,200 And we had to take those out and just redo the whole thing. 211 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,840 So you guys did such a good job. 212 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,840 It's so beautifully decorated. 213 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,760 I can't believe the ceiling is that's my favorite part of the whole place. 214 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,040 It's so beautiful. 215 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,880 It's like a black. 216 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Is it black ceiling? 217 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,840 It's black like it's a glossy black tin ceiling. 218 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:16,720 It is real tin. 219 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Oh wow. 220 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,680 So but it was it's not original to the building though. 221 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,360 We installed that ourselves. 222 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,920 So it's beautiful in there. 223 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Looks like you guys just took so much care. 224 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,600 The space has such good vibes. 225 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,960 I love going in there. 226 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,720 I do remember like the first time I was in there. 227 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,120 There was a witch mask on the wall. 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,040 And with a sign that said it was there. 229 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,280 When you guys moved in, is that still there? 230 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,560 It is. 231 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,200 Yeah. 232 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,080 It'll stay there. 233 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,000 It's like a little bit of a traffic. 234 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 So that was there when you guys bought the place? 235 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Yeah. 236 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Yeah. 237 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Like I said, they just had a collection of stuff. 238 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,760 And so that was still hanging on the pillar right, 239 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,040 roughly right where it is now. 240 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,400 We took it down to paint obviously and put it back. 241 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,680 But and we fixed it. 242 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:03,760 We put batteries in it because it has a button. 243 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 You push it and it like sings and does funny stuff. 244 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,560 But yeah, it's very old. 245 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:12,320 And the some of the I think the grandkids of the people 246 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,720 who own the building for us have been in the shop. 247 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,880 And one of them was like, hey, I put that there. 248 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,640 And so that was fine. 249 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,440 That's all I love that. 250 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 That is so flipping cute. 251 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Yeah. 252 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Okay, so let's go into what Lizzy runs. 253 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,640 You said she runs full moon gatherings and and sabbats. 254 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Sabbits. 255 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,000 I was like, there's there's a word I can't pronounce 256 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,440 and I don't want to sound stupid. 257 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Not at all. 258 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,360 And she teaches some classes. 259 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Yes. 260 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Oh, okay. 261 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,600 So tell me about all those things. 262 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Yeah. 263 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,240 So every month we do a new moon and full moon circles. 264 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,680 My friend Lisa runs the new moon ones. 265 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,160 We do a lot of drumming for that. 266 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,080 That's a drumming circle for the new moons. 267 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 For the full moons, I do those. 268 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,840 And then I also do the sabbats which are like to pagan holy days. 269 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,400 There are eight of them a year and it follows the the wheel of the year. 270 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,960 I also as Courtney said occasionally teach classes. 271 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,760 I did a class on honor your ancestors even if they suck. 272 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,680 A lot of people. 273 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:29,600 A lot of people in the pagan community come from a hard background. 274 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Either some of their family, they get a lot of flack from their family about being pagan. 275 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 We get a lot of evangelical castoffs. 276 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,440 You know, people that didn't find a home in the church. 277 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,680 And they're finding a home in paganism. 278 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:47,200 But that creates kind of that tension within their family line. 279 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Or they come from religious trauma. 280 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:57,520 And so they've split from their family because you know, they they follow a really hard religious line. 281 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,680 So connecting to your ancestors even when there is kind of that tension, it's still possible. 282 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,520 And so I taught a class around that around how to kind of get around 283 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,440 the fact that your immediate ancestors really suck. 284 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,280 I'm also going to teach a class on runes. 285 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,640 I've been working with runes for about about 12 years now. 286 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,600 And yeah. 287 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,160 So the the sabbats that we do, the pagan holy days, we make that accessible to everybody. 288 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,720 We don't have any particular like line that we follow. 289 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Like we don't do Wiccan sabbats. 290 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,520 We don't do druid sabbats. 291 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,880 We don't do Hellenistic sabbats. 292 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Like it's just kind of an all around pagan thing. 293 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,160 We follow the wheel of the year. 294 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,840 So the next one is going to be you all, which is the winter solstice or Albin Arthin. 295 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,960 And I think it's a good time. 296 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,000 We usually talk about what the sabbat is, the significance of it. 297 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And then we usually have something to do a lot of time. 298 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 It's setting an intention for the coming year. 299 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,320 For you all, especially how to kind of honor the passing of the year 300 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 and what you want the next year to look like. 301 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,320 So yeah. 302 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,320 That's what we do. 303 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,280 That is so cool. 304 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,360 So can you just show up to these as they're exactly? 305 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Absolutely. 306 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,120 A minor do you have to sign up? 307 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:23,920 You don't have to sign up. 308 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,720 You just show up. 309 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,560 All of it is on the stores website throughtheveilshop.com. 310 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,320 It's also on Facebook and Instagram. 311 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,840 And then there's also a Facebook community group 312 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,800 for the shop where we post about the events. 313 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,480 Book clubs. 314 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,000 We are also going to be doing a book club coming up again. 315 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Probably in January. 316 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Question mark. 317 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Yeah. 318 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Yeah. 319 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Yeah. 320 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Oh, that's awesome. 321 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,160 That's right. 322 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,200 When every year I'm like, I'm going to read more books this year. 323 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,320 That's my resolution. 324 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,800 There you go. 325 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Here's a way to keep that. 326 00:14:59,440 --> 00:14:59,760 Yeah. 327 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Exactly. 328 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Yeah, we do, we do witchy books. 329 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,000 So I think the next one that we're going to do is the Morrigan book by Courtney Weber. 330 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,240 Right? 331 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Yeah. 332 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,000 So Courtney Weber actually reached out to us. 333 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,880 She lives in the area so she's going to come talk to us about the book once we reread it. 334 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Oh, wow. 335 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,560 That's awesome. 336 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,760 I'll have to keep my eye out. 337 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,120 That's really interesting. 338 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Is it the same for book clubs? 339 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Do you do it at the shop? 340 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Do you do it virtually? 341 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Yeah, we do both for the book club. 342 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,720 So it is at the shop and then we do a Zoom link as well. 343 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,400 And we often record it. 344 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,880 So if people miss it, they can catch up. 345 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Oh, that's cool. 346 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,320 I love that. 347 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Yeah, that's also a great place to talk about. 348 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,360 Like if you have questions about the path that you're on, 349 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,680 we get a lot of people who come in and they're like, oh, 350 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,240 I really know what I am, but I'm interested in all of this. 351 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,840 And that's where Courtney and August have created this amazing community 352 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,480 that there are just so many people that ask and so many people that come to these kinds of things. 353 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,840 And Courtney and August are so knowledgeable that they can usually point you 354 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,640 in the right direction and be like, oh, hey, there's this book over here. 355 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,920 There's book over here. 356 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,080 If you're interested in Druidry, go talk to Lizzy because 357 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,640 they'll try to drag you into that. 358 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,800 So I love that. 359 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,480 It's just like a safe space for everyone to come. 360 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Absolutely. 361 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Absolutely. 362 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,640 That's what I love the most about the shop is that 363 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Courtney and August, they run it not just as a shop, but as a community meeting place. 364 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,800 It's a place that you can come and you can ask questions. 365 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,160 I've seen people come into the shop that just have 366 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,840 generic questions about witchcraft. 367 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 There are people that come in that say, hey, 368 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,280 I've got something gross in my apartment. 369 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,320 This feeling, how do I get rid of that? 370 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 What would you recommend for that? 371 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,880 We have people that come in that want to do, 372 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,880 they want to disconnect from loved ones or ex-boyfriends. 373 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,280 They want to know how the best way to do that. 374 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,640 It's just such a great resource to come in and ask those kinds of questions 375 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,400 that you can't really find anywhere else. 376 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,280 You can throw it out to Google, but you're going to get 15 different things. 377 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Oh my god. 378 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,640 Or you could come into the shop and talk to Courtney or August or 379 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,280 anyone that's working there or if I'm hanging around that day 380 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,840 and get first-hand information on the best way to go about it. 381 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Yeah, I feel like sometimes you don't even know what task. 382 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,080 So you're just like, what do I even type in Google for this problem? 383 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,720 I don't even know. 384 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,640 Absolutely. 385 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,920 Absolutely. 386 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,440 And that's recording August or great because they can kind of pull that out and be like, 387 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,240 oh, hey, well, have you tried Palo Santo? 388 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Like, you know, yeah, I've got some sage over here. 389 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,800 You know, here's some graveyard dirt. 390 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Let's try that. 391 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,760 A thing that I find happens a lot, especially in some of the witchy groups I follow on Facebook, 392 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 is you'll ask a question and you'll get a lot of judgment. 393 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Whereas like, you know, some people want to do something and other people have an idea that 394 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,280 what you should be doing and that's going to be bad karma or all this. 395 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,320 And everybody has different belief systems and we really try to honor that in our shop. 396 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,360 And we just give you the information. 397 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:13,040 You know, it's not our place to say what you should or shouldn't do. 398 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,120 It's your, your own person. 399 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:19,120 So we just give the information and we carry the supplies. 400 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:25,520 So that's like, something that's very important to me is to do that judgment-free. 401 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,120 Yeah. 402 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,080 Yeah, I like that. 403 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,040 I don't like rules. 404 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,040 So and I'm always changing my mind too. 405 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,920 So I'm like, I reserve the right to change my mind about that. 406 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,920 Right. 407 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,160 100% 100%. 408 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Do you guys collect your own graveyard dirt or do you get it sourced? 409 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,040 We do not collect our own. 410 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,480 I unfortunately do not have time for such. 411 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Can you imagine? 412 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Extracurricular activités. 413 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Courtney, let's go. 414 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,240 We're going to the graveyard. 415 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Let's do it. 416 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Shops out a dirt. 417 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,640 We need to go. 418 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,040 All right. 419 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,440 So we do, we do source it. 420 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,200 We do try to get it from legitimate sources and that sort of thing. 421 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Of course, how much can you really know if it's legit? 422 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:10,960 Right. 423 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,280 But I am very excited, though, since we're on the topic of Grave Dirt. 424 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,760 I just found a new source. 425 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,600 That I've ordered from. 426 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 And they have special Grave Dirt. 427 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,040 They have Grave Dirt from Disentered Graves. 428 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,280 They have Grave Dirt from Freshly Dug Graves. 429 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,040 And they have a Grave Salts, which is like a Grave Dirt mixed with Salts. 430 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,240 And such. 431 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,960 Wow. 432 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:37,760 That's right. 433 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,640 You know, right? 434 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,600 I'm very excited. 435 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,880 That's awesome. 436 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,160 That is super awesome. 437 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720 And they work in the Funerary business. 438 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,880 So I'm pretty sure that it's legit. 439 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,840 I would hope so. 440 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,560 Yeah. 441 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Yeah. 442 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,360 That's a great, great connection to have. 443 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:53,200 I didn't even think about that. 444 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,360 Great. 445 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,200 Kind of a good side hustle too. 446 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,440 Right? 447 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,200 If you're like, if you've got your own mortuary, 448 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,400 you'll be like, yo, what's up? 449 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Like I got the good dirt. 450 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,400 Yeah. 451 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,640 Yeah. 452 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,240 I cannot wait. 453 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Because I got like spell kits and stuff too. 454 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,440 That comes with things like Corpse Water. 455 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Like they wash down the corpses before they do stuff to it. 456 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,240 So lots of things. 457 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Stuff like I like that weird like stuff. 458 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 So I need to I need to all about graveyard. 459 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,360 Super awesome. 460 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:25,040 Skeletons and oh my gosh, everything creepy. 461 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,800 You have to tell me about you have a coffin table 462 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,200 in there with a skeleton in it, right? 463 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,440 It's probably not as cool as it sounds, 464 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,440 but it's just a coffin table. 465 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,800 It's actually cooler. 466 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Yeah. 467 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,040 It's really cool to look at. 468 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,640 So we made that the coffin table out of like plexiglass. 469 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,480 So it's clear so you can see through it. 470 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,400 And then put some feet on it and all that. 471 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,760 And then we got a skeleton that is gold. 472 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,800 And I just decorated it in flowers and lights and low 473 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,840 which had and put them in there. 474 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,040 And that's where he lived. 475 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,320 So awesome. 476 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,520 It's so beautiful. 477 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,880 Is that for sale? 478 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,680 It is not. 479 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,480 No, I'm sorry. 480 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Finally, someone tried to rent it from a slash year too 481 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,280 for Halloween. 482 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 It's like, oh, that's a good idea. 483 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Maybe you should just put a tutorial on how to make it. 484 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,920 Yeah, I could probably come up with that. 485 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,040 It wasn't, I mean, the hardest part obviously is 486 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,000 is cutting the plexiglass and not breaking it. 487 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,240 But yeah, I'd have to hire someone to do it. 488 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Right. 489 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Yeah. 490 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,120 And plexiglass isn't cheap anymore. 491 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,000 Holy cow. 492 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,960 I know. 493 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Oh, I know. 494 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,440 Do you have any other art that you make 495 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 and put around the shop like that? 496 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Oh, yeah. 497 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Yeah. 498 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,760 There's tons of art in there. 499 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,440 We have like a big right above the fireplace 500 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,080 is like a 3D statue thing of Hecate. 501 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,400 Yeah. 502 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,560 So I do a lot of bone art that we sell in the shop. 503 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Some of it's real bones and some of it's 504 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,360 we call vegan for those people who are-- 505 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,240 We just want to-- 506 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,640 --just get bought out. 507 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,600 I love it. 508 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Yeah. 509 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Vegan bone art. 510 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,480 And then what else? 511 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,680 I make so much stuff. 512 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,360 I don't even know. 513 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,120 There's a pair of wings in there I've made. 514 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,880 I made like the chandelier that's in the middle. 515 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,640 And you made that? 516 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Yeah. 517 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,840 The robes, the robes and stuff. 518 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,120 Yeah. 519 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,120 The icing gowns that are in there I've made. 520 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,920 She's incredibly artistic. 521 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,760 Like she's so talented. 522 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,440 She really is. 523 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,120 Definitely shows when you go in there for sure. 524 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:38,440 Nice. 525 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,440 Absolutely. 526 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Tell my husband you can never leave me. 527 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,400 [LAUGHTER] 528 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,760 For the drum circle, do you have to have your own drum? 529 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,560 No. 530 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,200 Lisa makes her drums and brings extra ones for everybody. 531 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,720 So you can just show up. 532 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,320 The only thing that is good to bring her chairs 533 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 because most of the time we're sitting and drumming 534 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,400 and stuff and so having-- 535 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,200 there are some chairs there. 536 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080 There are benches and rocking chairs available. 537 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,840 That fills up pretty quick. 538 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Well, that's good to know. 539 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,520 OK. 540 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Yeah. 541 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Yeah. 542 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,880 And you can even, as far as drums go, 543 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,080 because she does have a limited number. 544 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,400 So sometimes people will share or pass them around. 545 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 But you can bring any kind of percussion type. 546 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,920 We've had people bring rattles or little like-- 547 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,920 Dissarie doodles. 548 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,920 I don't know what-- 549 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,720 Really? 550 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,220 Thank you. 551 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:36,720 I can never pronounce that. 552 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,800 Yep. 553 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,520 You can even take an old bottle, like a plastic bottle, 554 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,120 and put little rocks in it, and then shake it. 555 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,840 I mean, just anything. 556 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,360 So-- 557 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,600 That's cool. 558 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 And then do you have to know anything about drumming? 559 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Not at all. 560 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:52,880 Not at all. 561 00:23:52,880 --> 00:24:00,480 So the idea of it is that the percussive kind of rhythm 562 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840 helps kind of change your brainway patterns 563 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,200 to kind of get you into a more meditative state. 564 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,720 And so sitting together and drumming together 565 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,200 and kind of feeling that energy, the whole idea behind a new moon 566 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,680 is what you want to manifest for that moon cycle. 567 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,520 And so as we drum, we think about, OK, what do the last moon 568 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,760 cycle look like? 569 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,720 What just ended? 570 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,640 This is the darker that moon, and this is the time 571 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,440 to kind of rest and figure out what you want to manifest. 572 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840 And drumming kind of helps facilitate that. 573 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 It helps you kind of go a little bit deeper. 574 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Then on the full moon circles, we 575 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,080 talk about what has manifested. 576 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Like this month, it's the hunter moon, 577 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,760 or the beaver moon, or whatever. 578 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,440 And that's what this is around. 579 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,880 And so the whole idea is to kind of live more in cycle 580 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320 with the seasons and with the moon cycle. 581 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,920 And you see kind of how your own energy abs 582 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320 and flows with those cycles. 583 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,920 And you see kind of how that starts to take root in your own life. 584 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,840 That sounds really cool. 585 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,360 I'm going to have to get down and check it out. 586 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,080 Because I just need-- I need something more in my life, 587 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,360 more than just podcasting and working. 588 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,640 I need more witchy vibes in my life, for sure. 589 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Absolutely. 590 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,680 Absolutely. 591 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,640 Yeah. 592 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760 OK, can you both recommend like what 593 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,560 is one basic witchy tool or something 594 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080 that you provide in the store that you think everyone should 595 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,080 have? 596 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Good question. 597 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,080 I mean, not everyone. 598 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,080 But you know what I mean. 599 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,080 There's so many. 600 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,080 How do you pick one? 601 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Right? 602 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,080 You can do more than one. 603 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,080 I don't care. 604 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,840 There's no rules here. 605 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560 I guess I'll talk about the one I've been working on today, 606 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,000 since it's like on my mind. 607 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:51,080 We sell-- it's called a witch kit starter kit type thing. 608 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Oh, perfect. 609 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Yeah. 610 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,320 So we have three types. 611 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,280 One is just in a regular like organ's 612 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,280 bag. 613 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,160 This month we'll be doing them in little mini like Christmas 614 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760 stockings for Christmas gifts. 615 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,840 So two. 616 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,080 And then yeah, so that it'll come with a bunch of different herbs, 617 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,360 a bunch of different crystals. 618 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,800 It comes with like a mini candle, candle holder, matches, 619 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,520 oil, Palo Santo, salt. 620 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,120 So I think that's most of it. 621 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,600 And then we have a style that's inside of a mortar and pestle. 622 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,840 So it comes in a mortar and pestle. 623 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,120 And then one comes with a little cauldron. 624 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,720 So it's just a real like beginner basic kit. 625 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,160 And on each of the herbs and the stones, 626 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,760 it'll tell you what it is and like one of its metaphysical 627 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,080 properties. 628 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,640 So it's really for people starting out who don't have a collection 629 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,880 of stuff yet and they just want to get something started. 630 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,680 So that's perfect. 631 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,440 I love that. 632 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,840 I would recommend a tarot deck as a good way 633 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,080 to kind of start if you're diving into it. 634 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,680 Yeah. 635 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,640 If you're diving into kind of like your witchy cell 636 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,200 because the whole idea behind tarot and divination 637 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,480 is to kind of take you a little bit deeper inside yourself. 638 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,960 And they have in a fantastic selection of tarot decks there. 639 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600 Everything you can possibly think of. 640 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Like they've got a tarot deck for it. 641 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,680 I've gotten a few decks there. 642 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400 I got an Oracle deck there and it literally would not 643 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,960 let me leave the store without it. 644 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,640 I kept-- 645 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160 I'd be like, no, I have enough decks. 646 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,840 I guess they don't have an Oracle deck, 647 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,080 but-- and I kept going back to it and I was like, 648 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,680 I have to take this home. 649 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,480 They won't let me leave. 650 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,480 Nice. 651 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,640 That's how you know that. 652 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,520 That's meant for you. 653 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Yep. 654 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,200 Absolutely. 655 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,520 I know. 656 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,200 And I was really bummed out because I don't have it with me. 657 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 I think I left it at my co-host house 658 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 because we used it for the last episode. 659 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,160 And I was like, no, I need my-- 660 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,680 it's a moon Oracle deck. 661 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,680 Ooh, nice. 662 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,040 It's just gorgeous. 663 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,840 But I didn't bring it. 664 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,680 So I'd-- 665 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,160 I probably-- 666 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,480 I believe. 667 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,920 I'd probably have it. 668 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320 I'd like six or seven Oracle decks over there. 669 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,520 So chances are I can have it. 670 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,560 How do you have it? 671 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,640 That would be so cool. 672 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,920 Is it the monology Oracle? 673 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,200 I don't think so. 674 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,920 It has like cartoon witches on it and like cats. 675 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,360 Oh, nice. 676 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,880 Just very pretty artwork. 677 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Like, girly creepy. 678 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440 I wonder if it's the one I picked up recently. 679 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Let me go get it. 680 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080 I want to see if it's best one for the first time. 681 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,640 I mean, obviously I have all the decks in the store, 682 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,960 but in my personal collection, I have this one. 683 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,240 That's it. 684 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Ooh, nice. 685 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,080 I had a feeling that-- 686 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,880 So it's just my buddy. 687 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 I take it everywhere with me. 688 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,680 And I was just like heartbroken that it wasn't in my bag 689 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:36,960 today. 690 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,760 I was like, no. 691 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Oh, I'm going to go-- 692 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,360 Like a piece of me. 693 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,200 This is when I snagged for myself. 694 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,800 I snagged a lot of them, unfortunately, but-- 695 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,280 I love it. 696 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Yeah, I love the artwork on this one. 697 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,560 So gorgeous. 698 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,320 It's so beautiful. 699 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,920 That's very beautiful. 700 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,120 As indie podcasters, we love to show our support 701 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920 of other awesome shows. 702 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,800 So stay tuned for the promo we've 703 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,720 got to share with you this week. 704 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Let's show them some love. 705 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,440 You can find their info in our show notes. 706 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,200 Good evening and welcome to “Audie's Oddities." 707 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,680 Allow me to tell you some stories of true crime, conspiracy, 708 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,080 and the unexplained. 709 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760 But most importantly, the names of the lives 710 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000 that we lost in these stories. 711 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Nothing's off the chopping block from where wolves 712 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 when to goes to witches. 713 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,480 And most importantly, the most horrifying of them all, people. 714 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,480 With news stories twice a week, you'll 715 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,040 be sleeping with the lights on. 716 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,760 Don't be late, or you might be my next story. 717 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Listen to "Audie's Oddities," wherever you get your podcasts. 718 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,640 You guys, we're back. 719 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000 And don't worry, we did get more wine. 720 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Well, of course. 721 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,880 So we usually do a tarot reading or an oracle reading 722 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,120 or something witchy in every episode. 723 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,080 So if you guys want to pull something, 724 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320 if you're feeling it, I would love that. 725 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Since I don't have my pretty deck. 726 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Absolutely. 727 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,040 So I guess I will pull from the deck that you love. 728 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,520 You want to go first, Lucy? 729 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Sure. 730 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,960 I need to do a Rune pull 731 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Is that work? 732 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Yes, please. 733 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,520 So I made my own Runes out of a Preseli Bluestone. 734 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720 I carved them myself. 735 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,320 It took me three months to do it, because I carved them 736 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,280 in the proper phase of the moon and all that kind of shit. 737 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,960 So I have a set of Runes that I made. 738 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600 And I'll do a Rune pull for you guys. 739 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,600 That'll be one. 740 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,760 That's so exciting. 741 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,400 I give you the five of the day. 742 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,360 I have to tell you about a Rune set I saw recently 743 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,480 I want to get. 744 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Ooh. 745 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,480 I think rooms are so beautiful. 746 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,880 They really are. 747 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,880 This is a Dagaz. 748 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,160 It's the room of illumination or enlightenment. 749 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,520 So Dagaz, in some parts of Eastern Europe, 750 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840 in Alaska, the sun will set. 751 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,280 And it won't rise again for 30, 40, 60 days. 752 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,760 So you have just months of darkness. 753 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,440 And then the inverse of that is where the sun rises. 754 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,880 And it never sets. 755 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,840 And it's up for a while. 756 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,680 But Dagaz is the illumination. 757 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,440 That's the sun rising after an extremely long period 758 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,640 of darkness. 759 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,680 So if you're moving through a time where you're kind of questioning, 760 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,280 what do I do next or where do I go? 761 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Dagaz is the room to lean on. 762 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,280 It also looks like an hourglass or an infinity symbol. 763 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,920 So it kind of encapsulates that idea that there is no beginning 764 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,160 and there is no end. 765 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,120 It's just-- it's all a cycle, right? 766 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,680 It's all illumination. 767 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,240 So you keep working and you keep learning. 768 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360 And that's how you keep moving forward 769 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,200 is through the illumination of Dagaz. 770 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,480 That's so beautiful. 771 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,880 I love that. 772 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600 That's perfect. 773 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360 You're turn Courtney. 774 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,400 So I got this card - Radiant. 775 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Ooh, beautiful. 776 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640 That kind of goes together, I feel like. 777 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,680 It does. 778 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,280 I know. 779 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,600 We're just thinking, I'm going to look it up in the book 780 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520 because it is an Oracle deck. 781 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,920 And Oracle's always have their own definitions for things. 782 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,280 I love that-- 783 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040 Let me see what questions they have for those cards. 784 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,280 OK. 785 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Yeah. 786 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,720 So it says, "Radiant illuminated glowing beacon. 787 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Be as radiant as the luminous full moon 788 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,800 casting a shimmering glow to all below, 789 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,920 blinketing the earth and dancing shadows 790 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,120 as the clouds pass around her. 791 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Be as radiant as the gleaming suns sending her luminous rays 792 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,480 to our planet. 793 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Both the moon and the sun are healing, 794 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,080 rejuvenating, and magnetic. 795 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,520 Soak in these powers, ignite your own glow 796 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240 from within and share your newly gained strength. 797 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,800 Recharge your energy zones. 798 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Tap into your inspiration and creativity 799 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080 using your newly gained resources to their fullest extent. 800 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,720 Choose to shine on your brightest frequency. 801 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Be like the sun, the moon, and the stars 802 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,640 illuminating the darkness. 803 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Wow. 804 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,760 And it says, "Intention is illuminate your heart 805 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,280 with inspiration and love. 806 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,640 Be a beacon of light offering strength and guidance." 807 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,720 So yeah. 808 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,680 That sounds an awful lot like you guys in your store 809 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,040 and what you do for the community. 810 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Right. 811 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Right. 812 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Right. 813 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,400 We hope. 814 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Yeah, absolutely. 815 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,720 That's so perfect. 816 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,360 I love when it works out like that, 817 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,920 where you get to kind of like matching interpretations 818 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,120 for things and they're completely different tools 819 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,160 that you're using too. 820 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,160 That's really cool. 821 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,680 I love that. 822 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240 That's so awesome. 823 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Manifesting. 824 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,280 We're always so amazed by them. 825 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,040 What's that word? 826 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Oh my gosh. 827 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,400 A synchronicity. 828 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Yes. 829 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000 I'm like, one of you has to pull it out of my brain. 830 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,880 I know what I mean. 831 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,800 Yeah. 832 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,760 So have you guys experienced any hauntings, any ghosts, 833 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,960 any creepy stuff? 834 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,880 Neal. 835 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,600 Oh, I mean, we could probably talk about the Ouija 836 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,760 I was just saying we could probably 837 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,320 talk about the last, the Ouija thing that we did. 838 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,360 That was really fascinating. 839 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Where-- 840 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560 Oh, so did stuff happen. 841 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560 Yeah. 842 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,000 You kind of. 843 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640 So I will give some background first, too, 844 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,640 because reasons we chose to try to do the Ouija here 845 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,680 in the building. 846 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,680 So lots of people have told us a story 847 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,160 about the lady that owned the store in like the '40s 848 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,960 and '50s. 849 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840 Her name was Bessie Brown. 850 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,840 And so she was a widow when she bought the building. 851 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,160 So that in itself was unique. 852 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,160 That she owned and ran this store on her own. 853 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,280 She didn't pass away here. 854 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,800 But she had-- everybody said that she loved the store. 855 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,320 They had to basically force her into retirement. 856 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,840 And once they did, she passed away shortly thereafter. 857 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,360 So the people have said that they've felt her presence there, 858 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,680 that they've seen her. 859 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680 We've had multiple stories from random different people 860 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,840 who don't know each other. 861 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,880 Oh, wow. 862 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360 The guy that owned the store before us, 863 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640 he talked about her a lot and believed 864 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,440 that she was here. 865 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920 And then we've had some younger people come in. 866 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360 He said, oh, I was driving by with somebody's one night. 867 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,720 And we saw her out in the road. 868 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,480 And like, just various things like that. 869 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,000 She was very nice. 870 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Everyone says she gave candy out to kids that came 871 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,760 in the shop and so on. 872 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,440 So yeah, so we kind of did this whole Ouija board thing 873 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,880 in the class as well as with friends to reach out 874 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,920 and see if she was here and that sort of thing. 875 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,320 But yeah, I'll let Lizzy explain the rest of what happened 876 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,440 when we did the Ouija board that night. 877 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,960 It was really interesting. 878 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,640 It was-- we asked if we could connect. 879 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,560 And there was definitely the real presence. 880 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Our friend, Lisa, the same one that runs the new moon circles. 881 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,360 She is an experienced chaman or spirit walker. 882 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,400 And does a lot with ghost hunting. 883 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080 She does a lot with cleansing. 884 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,880 If you have a malevolent entity on your land, 885 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,880 and you need that cleanse. 886 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,360 So we felt that we were in really good hands with Lisa. 887 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,720 And so she kind of helped guide the process. 888 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,960 So she kind of helps make sure that we were all kind of like 889 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,720 taking it seriously and things. 890 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,960 And so she was asking the right questions. 891 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:07,080 And it definitely had like a very strong sense of a presence 892 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,640 and in communicating. 893 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,920 What was hilarious is that they asked her if she liked what 894 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,800 we did with the store, what Courtney and August did with the store. 895 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,800 And it was kind of an ambiguous answer. 896 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,600 And we were kind of like, how? 897 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,960 Does that mean that you don't like it? 898 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,120 But then we got to thinking she ran a grocery store. 899 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,400 And Courtney and August store would definitely 900 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560 be the worst grocery store like a round. 901 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,800 Like it is a terrible grocery store. 902 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960 So I kind of wonder if she's looking at it 903 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720 and being like, y'all are terrible at selling groceries. 904 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:45,840 Like, this is not the worst grocery store I've ever seen. 905 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,920 But they asked, are you here? 906 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,960 Are you helping? 907 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,800 Do you help people? 908 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,160 And she's like, yeah, absolutely. 909 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920 So I think that spirit is still there. 910 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,320 And still wanting to be in service as she was for so long 911 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,240 in that building. 912 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,080 And we definitely get the sense that it's not malevolent at all. 913 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,680 It's a very protective and-- 914 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,240 I don't think kind is necessarily the right word. 915 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,680 I think the vibe I got was kind of like stern, 916 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,680 but helpful like that kind of school-marm teachery kind 917 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,280 of like, you behave now kind of thing. 918 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,840 But somebody who's definitely a servant. 919 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,560 There was a time too that they were hopeful in the shop 920 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,160 as far as we know. 921 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,000 So there was somebody in our back corner 922 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,840 where the tarot decks and stuff are in the oddities. 923 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,400 And a book had fallen off a shelf. 924 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520 Like randomly, nobody could figure out 925 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,800 why it would have just fallen off the shelf. 926 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,760 And they picked it up and put it back. 927 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,120 And it fell again. 928 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,600 And then they were like, OK, I'm 929 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,800 supposed to buy this book. 930 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,120 So it was very interesting that that happened in that way. 931 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600 Because yeah, nobody could figure out. 932 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680 They didn't seem like there was any legitimate reason 933 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560 for the book to have fallen. 934 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,840 But sadly, I'm a skeptic about all of the-- 935 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:14,080 that stuff I want to believe, like really badly. 936 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,800 But I'm still a skeptic there. 937 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,240 So we've had few things that were weird. 938 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,760 We weren't at home one time. 939 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,080 And we have motion sensors, of course, 940 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,160 on the alarm system and such. 941 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 And the motion detectors went off 942 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,560 and it turns on the cameras and all this. 943 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,800 And we're like, look in. 944 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,680 And we didn't see anything that would have turned it on. 945 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,520 And it was like a full alarm. 946 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,560 Like the alarm company called us and everything. 947 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,720 And so we're just like, yeah, no idea. 948 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,040 Maybe it was a cat or something. 949 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,240 I don't know. 950 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:52,240 So we're always trying to find other explanations. 951 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,840 That's healthy, though, I think. 952 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,640 I think that's one of the basic tenets of paganism 953 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,400 and kind of following a pagan path 954 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,040 is listening to your intuition. 955 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160 That's one of the things that-- 956 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,680 not to get too much of my soapbox, 957 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,880 because I could literally be here all day talking about that. 958 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,640 Oh, for sure. 959 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040 That's one of the things that Christianity in particular, 960 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,080 and a lot of the major world religions, 961 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320 they push is taking you away from that intuition. 962 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,440 They teach the tenets that the heart is deceitful above all 963 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:24,960 things. 964 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,800 And so you shouldn't listen to your intuition. 965 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000 You should only listen to the priests or the pastors 966 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,480 or whatever. 967 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320 And that's one of the things that I love the most 968 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,320 about paganism is that it puts you back in your body. 969 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,920 And it puts you back in control. 970 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880 And it puts you back in connection 971 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,120 with that sense of intuition and that sense of knowing 972 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520 something that even though you may not 973 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,840 have a legitimate reason to know, you just know. 974 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,280 Like you avoid that guy because he's creepy. 975 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,560 And then it turns out he was actually murdering people. 976 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Or you turn left instead of right 977 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,960 because you have a bad feeling. 978 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,240 And it turns out there was a car up later that day or something. 979 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,960 Those are the kinds of things that I feel like a pagan path 980 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,400 kind of helps you get more in connection with 981 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800 is thinking about things more in a mythological kind of mindset 982 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,760 rather than only what you can see touch, taste, feel here. 983 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,440 There's a lot more to the world than just what we can see 984 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,520 and feel. 985 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,600 And I feel like the pagan path has a lot more opportunity 986 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,000 to embrace that versus the major world religions and stuff. 987 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080 That's something that I always preach is listen to that, 988 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,280 particularly as women. 989 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Women's intuition should not be dismissed. 990 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080 And so much of the time it has been that, oh, well, 991 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,960 you're just being silly or oh, you shouldn't listen to that. 992 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,120 I cannot tell you how many women I have heard say, oh, 993 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440 this is probably silly, but. 994 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,760 And then something profound comes out 995 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,880 because they're actually listening to their intuition. 996 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,720 And that's what I love the most about the pagan path 997 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:07,280 is that you honor that and you lean into that versus just 998 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,160 being like, no, I probably shouldn't, I shouldn't 999 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,120 pay attention to that. 1000 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,160 That's silly. 1001 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,440 Yeah. 1002 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,960 We're so powerful. 1003 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,760 Our minds are just-- 1004 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,320 Persons. 1005 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,360 Our guts. 1006 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,800 They're on, I think, all the time. 1007 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,080 Absolutely. 1008 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,880 Absolutely. 1009 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,720 So much more fun to look at the world and see the magic in it, 1010 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,320 too, than to just-- 1011 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,360 Absolutely. 1012 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,960 It's so-- 1013 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:30,960 Absolutely. 1014 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,480 Because I mean, it's not like you could be dull and you 1015 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,080 could live under a credit score. 1016 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,200 And you could just pay your bills and go to work and do that 1017 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,480 shit. 1018 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,680 Or you could realize that quantum physics 1019 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,840 is the way that science describes magic. 1020 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,080 And you could realize that spooky action of the distance 1021 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,440 is absolutely something that's real. 1022 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,520 And that the energy that's all around us, 1023 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,320 you can kind of tap into that. 1024 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,880 And who doesn't want to live a life full of richness 1025 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,320 in magic? 1026 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,200 If you want to be Jess Bezos and Elon Musk and just 1027 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960 be a slave to the corporate overlords-- 1028 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,480 Sure. 1029 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,040 But I want magic. 1030 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600 You know, I want unexplained things. 1031 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,960 And I want spooky action of the distance. 1032 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,600 I love that. 1033 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,080 But also the same. 1034 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,920 You have to have a healthy dose of skepticism. 1035 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,280 But I can't even talk skepticism. 1036 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,080 100%. 1037 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,600 Courtney-- 1038 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,680 otherwise, you just kind of get lost. 1039 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,840 And you get a little too, like, too be free. 1040 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,560 Yeah. 1041 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,560 Courtney and I are in a lot of the same kind of Facebook 1042 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,960 witch groups and stuff. 1043 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,080 And there are so many times that people will post stuff 1044 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,880 and be like, what does this mean? 1045 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,360 And it's like, sometimes it's just one of the guys that 1046 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:39,920 ran it. 1047 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,280 He posted a clump of cat liver that was in the shape of a heart. 1048 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,480 And he was like, what do you guys think it means? 1049 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080 And he waited for people to be like, oh, maybe a cat. 1050 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,080 And that was you. 1051 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,320 Or maybe a cat's trying to tell you something or whatever. 1052 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,120 And he was like, y'all, sometimes it's just cat pee. 1053 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,880 Like, sometimes it's literally just like it's just 1054 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,560 a turd in the shape of a heart. 1055 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,040 Like, sometimes it doesn't mean anything. 1056 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,320 Sometimes it's just cat litter. 1057 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,040 And you got to take it and move on. 1058 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,760 So there's definitely that balance that you have to live in. 1059 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,520 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1060 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:13,840 Yeah. 1061 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,280 On the other hand, I say I'm a skeptic. 1062 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120 It's mostly about the actual ghost stuff 1063 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,760 I'm a little bit skeptical about. 1064 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,080 But I'm trying to see the tiny little moments too 1065 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,080 that could be considered magical. 1066 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,840 Like the quarter. 1067 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,200 Yeah, the quarter. 1068 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,040 Yeah. 1069 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,800 Yeah. 1070 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,760 Yeah. 1071 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640 Recently, I wanted to buy a Curio cabinet 1072 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960 for my Uranium glass collection. 1073 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,600 And I've been watching it for like a week 1074 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,440 because it's really expensive. 1075 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,080 And I'm like, it's black Friday. 1076 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,880 Maybe we'll go on sale. 1077 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,640 Maybe we'll go on sale. 1078 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,560 And so I've been watching it and watching it. 1079 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,040 And then like, black Friday came. 1080 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,720 And I was like, really watching it all day. 1081 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,520 And I'm like, why aren't they putting it on sale? 1082 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,440 Yeah, it's like a $1200 or a cabinet. 1083 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,560 I'm just like, I can't. 1084 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,680 I just don't want to pay that. 1085 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,760 And I just kept like him in a hog. 1086 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,600 And then a customer came in and her husband 1087 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,080 offered me a Curio cabinet. 1088 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,040 And they showed me the picture of it. 1089 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560 And it looks just like the one I was looking at online. 1090 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,520 It just wasn't black. 1091 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,080 I'm like, whatever. 1092 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,120 I'll paint it. 1093 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,160 And they're just like, yeah, we're just going to get rid of it 1094 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,080 so you could have it. 1095 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,120 And I'm like, are you kidding me? 1096 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Nice. 1097 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,800 I love us so perfect. 1098 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080 The universe is just like, here you go. 1099 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,320 Exactly. 1100 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,160 Love it. 1101 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,440 Now you got it. 1102 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,400 You manifested that shit. 1103 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,680 Absolutely. 1104 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,000 So yeah, I've been keeping notes of those little moments 1105 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,360 and stuff in my grammar lately just to try to like see 1106 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,360 that magic that they have happens. 1107 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,360 Because you normally like that would happen to anybody. 1108 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,200 And they'd just be like, oh, of course it ends, you know, 1109 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,160 but like I'm trying to be like, oh, no, I'm 1110 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,000 manifested that. 1111 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,760 I made that happen. 1112 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,760 Yeah. 1113 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000 And being open to it is part of it, too. 1114 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,680 And like understanding they're like putting that out 1115 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,760 there and speaking those intentions, it's so powerful. 1116 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,760 That's why we do that on the moon circles and on the Sabbath. 1117 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,280 So you actually want to say it and name it and say, this is what 1118 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,760 I want to call into my life. 1119 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640 That's the whole point of those kinds of things. 1120 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:14,960 Yeah. 1121 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,000 And I feel like you can always start small, too. 1122 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,560 Just something super small, like a cabinet. 1123 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,440 That was kind of a big thing. 1124 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,680 But even if it's like, you know, pair of shoes that you want 1125 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,840 or something, I feel like you can start really small 1126 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,200 and just see like your potential of what you can get. 1127 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,800 I manifested a penny once. 1128 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:39,120 So did you just really need a penny? 1129 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600 It was a Monday and we're closed on Mondays. 1130 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,520 And my husband's like, he doesn't like to put a zero in the books. 1131 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120 So he always like, if we go out shopping, he'll be like looking 1132 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,360 for change on the ground. 1133 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,920 He's so right. 1134 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,680 When I get the grocery store and he's like, we're like in the 1135 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,400 checkout line or getting close to it. 1136 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,240 And he's like, I forgot to look for a penny. 1137 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,640 So I was like, OK, let's go down here. 1138 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560 And I kept thinking and thinking he could find a penny. 1139 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840 He could find a penny down this aisle. 1140 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,560 And he turned. 1141 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,560 And there was a penny on the floor right there in the aisle. 1142 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,520 And I was like, yes. 1143 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,160 Oh my god, I love that. 1144 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,000 Awesome. 1145 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,080 It's perfect. 1146 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,680 You just needed one penny. 1147 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Like, now if I could just do that for a million times. 1148 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,320 Right? 1149 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,160 We'd be good. 1150 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,880 Good to go. 1151 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,800 I love those stories. 1152 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,320 Well, is there any last things that we didn't touch on that you 1153 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,640 want to talk about about literally anything you want? 1154 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,160 No, thanks. 1155 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,560 So I didn't talk too much about the good news of Druidry. 1156 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,320 But we can-- 1157 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,000 Do you want to? 1158 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,840 We get to joke. 1159 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,320 Oh. 1160 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,920 It's a joke. 1161 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,720 I buy it. 1162 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:39,800 You can go into that. 1163 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,800 It's fine. 1164 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,920 [LAUGHTER] 1165 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,760 You should. 1166 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,160 I want to hear it. 1167 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,600 I study Druidry. 1168 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,520 And so every time anybody comes into the store and they're 1169 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,760 like I'm considering a pagan path, I'm like, have you heard the good news 1170 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,960 of Druidry? 1171 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,400 I'm like the unofficial Druid ambassador. 1172 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,480 So it was plugging everything off. 1173 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,440 Well, can you tell me-- 1174 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,400 OK, so can you tell us what that means? 1175 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000 Because I don't really know what that means. 1176 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,680 Solaris? 1177 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,000 Yeah. 1178 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,600 So Druidry is a nature-based religion. 1179 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,440 It's kind of like WCA in that. 1180 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600 It celebrates the Sabbath and things like that. 1181 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080 It's not like WCA in that. 1182 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,920 WCA has some very laid down dogma intents 1183 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,120 that you're supposed to follow. 1184 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,600 How many rules? 1185 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,800 The rule of three. 1186 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,120 Yes, exactly. 1187 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040 And so Druidry doesn't really have that. 1188 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,800 You follow the wheel of the year. 1189 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,280 You follow the season's little paths. 1190 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,080 It's a very chill religion. 1191 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,520 And some people actually say that it's not a religion. 1192 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,680 It's more of a spiritual path. 1193 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,800 So it kind of depends on your viewpoint of it. 1194 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,320 It's all about following the seasons, the wheel of the year, 1195 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,240 living more in tune with nature, understanding 1196 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,800 how the seasons affect you on an energetic level 1197 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,640 and on a spiritual level. 1198 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,440 And kind of just learning what that is. 1199 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,560 The thing about Druidry is it's what you make it. 1200 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,840 Some people follow the path of the bard, which 1201 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,960 is very artistic. 1202 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,360 So like if you write or you do art or you make music, 1203 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,360 that's one path. 1204 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,040 Some people follow the path of the ovate, which 1205 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,880 is divination, herbalism, working with stones, shadow work, 1206 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,040 that kind of thing. 1207 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,320 And then other people will follow the path of the Druid, 1208 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,520 which is teaching, kind of starting their own grove, 1209 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,560 and things like that. 1210 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,320 So there's a lot of different ways that you can be a Druid. 1211 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Mostly like an argrove, it's completely open. 1212 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,560 If you want to come, you can come. 1213 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,440 If you don't want to come, you don't have to. 1214 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,920 There are no attendance requirements. 1215 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,440 You don't have to be a member or anything like that. 1216 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,960 Whenever people say, I love nature, 1217 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,200 I really experience my spirituality when I'm outside. 1218 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,880 I'm awed by looking up at the trees 1219 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,360 or noticing the changing of the season. 1220 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,240 Yes, I'm like, oh, you're a Druid. 1221 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,680 OK, cool. 1222 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,960 Welcome to Druidry. 1223 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,320 It's pretty much whatever you make it. 1224 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,200 There's no central dogma of Druidry. 1225 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,240 There's no holy book. 1226 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,360 There's no one person to look to that's like, oh, 1227 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,680 this is the person that started Druidry. 1228 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,640 And this is the main Druid or whatever. 1229 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,000 It's all about just kind of living more in tune with yourself 1230 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400 and with nature and understanding how those two things 1231 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,720 interact. 1232 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,880 So that's the good news about Druidry. 1233 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,840 Basically, whenever anybody comes into the shop 1234 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,480 and they're like, I really like nature. 1235 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,960 I really like growing things. 1236 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,120 And I think I might be a pagan. 1237 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,480 I'm like, you're a Druid. 1238 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,280 Let me tell you more about Druid. 1239 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,000 Here's this book. 1240 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,640 You should read it. 1241 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,800 It's great. 1242 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,080 Do you have a book recommendation? 1243 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,840 I have many book recommendations. 1244 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,280 I have an entire thing. 1245 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,360 One of the best ones that I like to start with 1246 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,200 is Principles of Druidry by Emma Restelor. 1247 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,800 She's a wonderful author. 1248 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,400 She's very, very sweet, very, very kind. 1249 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,000 It's a great way to learn about Druidry 1250 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,320 and kind of experience it as a living, breathing spiritual practice 1251 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,200 rather than something stuffy to read in a book. 1252 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,760 Emma Restelor's words really come to life. 1253 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,080 And she has a beautiful way of introducing that. 1254 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,440 That I think is fantastic. 1255 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,080 That would be my recommendation. 1256 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,640 Now I have a new book to read. 1257 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,480 Yeah. 1258 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,760 It's funny because I feel like we're a little bit 1259 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,920 on opposite sides of the spectrum. 1260 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,400 But I mean, I love that because that means 1261 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160 that we're just covering all sides of the spectrum. 1262 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,680 Right? 1263 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,160 We're people. 1264 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,600 Because my path is very, very different than Lizzie's. 1265 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,760 Yeah. 1266 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,080 I'm the tree hugging hippie type. 1267 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,680 Do you want to talk about your path? 1268 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,440 Sure. 1269 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,280 I can. 1270 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,040 I'm very new to it. 1271 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,680 So anybody listening for Give Me, 1272 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,720 if I say something that is not correct, 1273 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,000 because I'm still learning. 1274 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,760 And I'm very new. 1275 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,720 We all are, yeah. 1276 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:04,440 Yeah. 1277 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,440 Right. 1278 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,880 But it is going to sound weird, but hear me out. 1279 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,480 So it's called Necromancy or the Necromancer, 1280 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,480 which it's not the Hollywood version of Necromancy, 1281 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,280 where you're trying to bring dead things back to life. 1282 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,000 Right. 1283 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,320 But basically the way I understand it 1284 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,520 that I'm learning about is that any kind of working 1285 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,120 with the dead or death energy, 1286 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,760 even communicating with the dead, 1287 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,280 such as all your forms of divination, 1288 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,680 even the tarot cards can be considered 1289 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:48,360 a part of this or scrying just all those various things. 1290 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,160 So I'm kind of excited because I just 1291 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,680 started learning about this. 1292 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,800 And I finally love it. 1293 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:52,960 I love it. 1294 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,280 I have a path that fits me and that goes with. 1295 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,640 Because I've been doing bone art and taxidermy art 1296 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,640 for a while. 1297 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,880 For me, that's a way of just sort of honoring life 1298 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,680 and keeping the cycle going. 1299 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,440 You're giving life and beauty to something that is dead and gone. 1300 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,520 So it's keeping that transformation of that cycle going. 1301 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,440 So I love that. 1302 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,520 I love that. 1303 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,920 I feel like I'm a total mix between the two of you. 1304 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,240 Because I'm so interested in nature 1305 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,760 about I'm also so interested in death. 1306 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,040 But I feel like they totally go together. 1307 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,240 It's 100%. 1308 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,560 It's 100%. 1309 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,600 It's that cycle. 1310 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,440 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1311 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,200 I feel like her and I like cover the whole spectrum. 1312 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:41,560 I know. 1313 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 And even our clothing choices, you're there all in life. 1314 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,560 And I'm here in green. 1315 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,640 That just cracks me up, man. 1316 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,480 So there's something funny that I-- 1317 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,760 OK, I'll tell you about this because it's funny. 1318 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960 So I've kind of wanted a human skull 1319 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,800 just for my collection for a long time. 1320 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,080 They are very expensive. 1321 00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,560 Yes. 1322 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000 I'm always telling people, if you murder somebody, 1323 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000 do not let that go to waste. 1324 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:04,840 So-- 1325 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,840 Right. 1326 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,080 And then do you promise? 1327 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,960 Do you promise? 1328 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,920 We got that right. 1329 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,760 We got you. 1330 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,360 But recently, I don't know why it never occurred to me 1331 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,040 that the human body has lots of other bones, obviously. 1332 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,720 I mean, the skull is the coolest part. 1333 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,440 And the most important. 1334 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,120 But so I'm studying this stuff that I'm reading this book 1335 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,960 called "The Bones Fall in a Spiral" 1336 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,680 by Mortellis. 1337 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,600 And so there's a thing in there where 1338 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,040 you make what's called a skeleton key. 1339 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,120 And it's to help you transverse different worlds, 1340 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,440 like the underworld and the liminal spaces and things like that. 1341 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,960 And she suggests getting a-- 1342 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,240 what does she call-- a metacarpal bone for this. 1343 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,280 And I first thought that was a finger. 1344 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,240 It's not a finger. 1345 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,440 It's like this bone in your hand. 1346 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,240 No. 1347 00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:57,080 OK. 1348 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,880 And you carve a sigil on it and do some stuff. 1349 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,960 And I was like, school, but I want a finger bone. 1350 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,560 Because it's like, oh, wide. 1351 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,440 Great. 1352 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120 And it never occurred to me in the past 1353 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120 that I could just buy a finger bone. 1354 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,040 So I got a finger and I bought a carpal, 1355 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,160 and I'm going to put them together. 1356 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,120 And then of course, I'm going to rhinestone them 1357 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,760 because I love things to be sparkly because they should. 1358 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,280 And then I'm just going to carry it around. 1359 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,760 And whenever I have to point at something, 1360 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,240 I'm just going to pull it out and use it to point at things. 1361 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:29,880 Oh my goodness. 1362 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,880 I love it. 1363 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,920 That's amazing. 1364 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,000 That's amazing. 1365 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,560 You should make like a little string so it can kind of move 1366 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,240 a little bit. 1367 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:38,080 Yes. 1368 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,320 So you can be like, come here. 1369 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:39,840 Come here. 1370 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,720 Somebody told me I should turn it into like a stylus. 1371 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,760 So I could be on my phone like with my finger bone. 1372 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,840 Yes. 1373 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,000 Yes. 1374 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,840 That would be incredible. 1375 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,560 So many things you can do. 1376 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,600 I love it. 1377 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,000 So many fun things you can do with bones. 1378 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,840 So yeah. 1379 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,080 So if anyone's listening, just know that I'm very weird, 1380 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,040 and you cannot necessarily be weirder. 1381 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,000 So if you feel like you are-- 1382 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,720 True. 1383 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:05,040 Yeah. 1384 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,640 I feel like they're pretty used to it around me. 1385 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,120 I'm just so weird. 1386 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,240 Letting out the whole point of a community like this 1387 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:15,720 is that you can come as you are. 1388 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,040 And you don't have to worry. 1389 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,640 Nobody's going to give you the side eye and be like, 1390 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,240 wow, that weird person over there. 1391 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,640 Your farmer likely to get the side eye 1392 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,240 if you show up in like a 3-piece suit 1393 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,200 and you're like super stuffy normal. 1394 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,200 Like we're going to be like, fuck you around with that guy. 1395 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,240 Yeah, exactly. 1396 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:31,440 What's the normie doing here? 1397 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,160 What's up with that? 1398 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,320 You have tourists in the building. 1399 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,560 Yeah, exactly. 1400 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,480 A tourist. 1401 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,280 Exactly. 1402 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,360 Have you heard the news of Drew and Drew? 1403 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,720 Have you heard the news of Necro-Mancy? 1404 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:43,800 Come sit with us. 1405 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,840 We will tell you. 1406 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040 Do you ever have people who just-- 1407 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,560 I mean, it's probably dumb question-- 1408 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,240 but who just wander into the shop and not 1409 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:54,640 know what it is? 1410 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,480 Oh, yeah. 1411 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,800 Like every day, every day. 1412 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,640 Really? 1413 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080 Well, because the street that we're 1414 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,640 is kind of like between a park and all the Oranco 1415 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,640 apartment buildings. 1416 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,600 So we get people who are going to the park, walk in their dog, 1417 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,960 that sort of thing. 1418 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,640 So yeah, all the time, especially in October, 1419 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,120 we've had people coming in looking for costumes. 1420 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,840 Yeah, because they think we're a Halloween shop. 1421 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,760 Or-- and I've gotten a lot better to just flat out be like, 1422 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,640 no, this is a witch store. 1423 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,720 Yeah. 1424 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,560 I think that if you're just opening up front, 1425 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,840 it kind of dismisses any possible negativity 1426 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,360 right off the bat. 1427 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,840 So now that we get any, we really don't, but just in case. 1428 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,400 But yeah, most people are just like, oh, OK. 1429 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,320 They wander around. 1430 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,080 They can appreciate that it's pretty. 1431 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,080 The building is nice. 1432 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:50,800 It's old. 1433 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,640 We did a good job making it up. 1434 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,160 But-- 1435 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,000 You did. 1436 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,280 So they will be like, oh, yeah, this isn't for me. 1437 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,800 But I love what you did with the place. 1438 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,040 Oh, yeah. 1439 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,920 That is so interesting to me, because I 1440 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,680 thought for sure you'd be like, no, because the outside 1441 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,600 of the building is-- 1442 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,680 it's kind of obvious what the place is. 1443 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,320 But I guess during Halloween, they could just think, oh, 1444 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,840 it's just decorated around. 1445 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,680 For sure. 1446 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,480 Right. 1447 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,160 It's like a spirit Halloween outpost thing. 1448 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,080 We just opened it up for one month a year. 1449 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,040 That was a lot of work. 1450 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,960 Exactly. 1451 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,720 Oh, my God. 1452 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,680 Seriously, yeah. 1453 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,920 I did tell August though. 1454 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,240 So we opened up October 1st last year. 1455 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,600 So we didn't have a lot of time to decorate for Halloween 1456 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,960 last year. 1457 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,920 So this year, we got a whole bunch of stuff. 1458 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,840 And I spent an entire month making Halloween decor and stuff 1459 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,960 and putting it up. 1460 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,960 And we spent quite a bit on it to his chagrin, of course. 1461 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,440 But I'm like, you know? 1462 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,160 And I'm like, you feel like this stuff for years. 1463 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,600 I didn't really tell him that I plan on doing this every year 1464 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,440 so that our collection grows. 1465 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400 Because I'm like, one day, we'll want to retire. 1466 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,360 And that's when we can just set up the backyard 1467 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,960 hot and people come through. 1468 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,320 And we only have to work one month a year. 1469 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,320 Exactly. 1470 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,920 Because that's perfect. 1471 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,640 Long term goals, you know? 1472 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,640 Right. 1473 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,640 Yeah. 1474 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:24,640 You see the big picture. 1475 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,880 He wants to like-- 1476 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:26,800 Yeah, right. 1477 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,120 He wants to like retire to some like Norwegian country 1478 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,160 that's freezing. 1479 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,400 I don't know. 1480 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,480 They don't even have Halloween over there. 1481 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,720 No, you can say you're with me. 1482 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,160 Can you live there like one month a year? 1483 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:39,680 Right. 1484 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,000 And retire there one month a year, exactly. 1485 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,960 Right. 1486 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,360 So you got married at the Witches Castle. 1487 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,200 Or did you just take pictures there? 1488 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,280 No, we actually got married there. 1489 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,280 Yeah. 1490 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,760 I think I was stalking your website. 1491 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,800 And I was like, no way. 1492 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,600 Because we did a story on that place. 1493 00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,280 It's haunted. 1494 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,080 Oh, nice. 1495 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,600 Yeah. 1496 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,480 Awesome. 1497 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,760 Yeah. 1498 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,440 It was a little bit different than we expected. 1499 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,120 I think it's got a lot of graffiti on it now. 1500 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,720 Did one of the pictures online showed. 1501 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,880 But yeah, it was still a beautiful place. 1502 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,160 We did the whole-- 1503 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,320 we did a hand-fasting. 1504 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,720 We were eloping. 1505 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,880 We had just moved here. 1506 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,280 So we didn't know anybody. 1507 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,720 We literally had to pay the person who did the ceremony extra 1508 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,640 to bring somebody to take pictures 1509 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,760 and some people to be witnesses. 1510 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,600 Because we didn't even have witnesses. 1511 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,120 So yeah, so we did a whole circle on the ground. 1512 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,680 We had her call in, the four directions, 1513 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,120 and the ancestors, and all that. 1514 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,320 I had it all set up there. 1515 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,320 Yeah, we did the whole nine yards. 1516 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,120 We did the jumping over the broom afterwards. 1517 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,920 One of her family members was there 1518 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,040 who kind of kept people out at least. 1519 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,120 Because it's a kind of a tourist attraction. 1520 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,240 Yeah, it's like a hiking trail, too. 1521 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:58,840 Yeah. 1522 01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,840 Yeah. 1523 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,160 So we did go earlier in the day. 1524 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,400 But we had quite a few people just stop and watch. 1525 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:04,920 And like-- 1526 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,520 I would. 1527 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,320 That'd be so interesting. 1528 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,200 So she at least kept them from coming 1529 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,160 into the castle where we were doing our thing. 1530 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,160 So that's so cool. 1531 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,480 This is good. 1532 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,480 Yeah. 1533 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,720 What did you call it? 1534 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,720 Hand-fasting. 1535 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,520 That's just the type of ceremony that we do. 1536 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:27,240 You hold hands and the officiant puts cords over your hand. 1537 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,680 We had different colors that represented different things, 1538 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,280 like gray for getting old together or stuff like that. 1539 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,080 And so she would read through all those as she put the cord, 1540 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,760 and then she tied it into a knot. 1541 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,360 And that's like symbolizing the marriage part of it. 1542 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,000 And we held our rings in our hands, too, under the knot, 1543 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,640 and that's the thing. 1544 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,680 So yeah. 1545 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,600 Oh, that's so cool. 1546 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,720 I've never seen a wedding like that before. 1547 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,560 I would love to see something like that. 1548 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,680 I don't want to get married. 1549 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,640 But I want to witness it. 1550 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,640 It seems we're going to be doing some here at the shop. 1551 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,640 Oh, wow, really? 1552 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,120 Yeah. 1553 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,360 There's people who have asked-- 1554 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:07,360 Yeah. 1555 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,160 --and we see those. 1556 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,160 How do you officiate? 1557 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,920 Yes, I am ordained. 1558 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,800 I can do handfastings, all that kind of stuff. 1559 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,200 So if you want to get married at the shop or in the backyard 1560 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,440 or something like that, I can absolutely officiate them. 1561 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,160 We did have a couple get married in our backyard 1562 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,880 a while, like last year or something. 1563 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,720 Oh, yeah. 1564 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,400 Because they needed witnesses, too. 1565 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,520 And so we'll be your witnesses if you need witnesses. 1566 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,440 We know what it's like to not have any package deal. 1567 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,520 Toast. 1568 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680 Well, thank you guys so much for talking with me. 1569 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,160 This was so much fun. 1570 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:43,400 Great. 1571 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:44,240 Thank you. 1572 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,720 I'll have to come to one of the moon ceremonies 1573 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,800 because that just sounds like a blast. 1574 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,960 Absolutely. 1575 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,000 We have one coming up. 1576 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,480 Yes. 1577 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,000 Yeah. 1578 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,600 Ooh, win. 1579 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,160 Let's see. 1580 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,560 Full moon. 1581 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,080 Tuesday, I think. 1582 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,440 Yep. 1583 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,320 Tuesday at 7.30. 1584 01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:59,920 Oh my gosh. 1585 01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:01,520 I have Tuesdays off. 1586 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,920 It's like it's meant to be. 1587 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:03,920 OK, I'm going to do that. 1588 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,520 There you go. 1589 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,280 Let's take it like deathly ill or something. 1590 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,960 But come by. 1591 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,400 Come by. 1592 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,120 Yes. 1593 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,800 And we have it all decorated up for Krampmas right now. 1594 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,960 Oh, yes. 1595 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,880 I love that. 1596 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,520 I feel like we get more people who like the Krampmas 1597 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,120 than the cared about how-- 1598 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,280 Really? 1599 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,120 Ironically. 1600 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,120 Yeah. 1601 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,120 Yeah. 1602 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,120 I like both. 1603 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,120 They're just not used to seeing spooky stuff at Christmas. 1604 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,120 Yeah. 1605 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,120 That makes sense. 1606 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,960 Besides your family shit, that's always very spooky, right? 1607 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,480 We definitely put some fanat hats and elf hats on the skeletons 1608 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,080 because it was too much fun. 1609 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,080 You should take down. 1610 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,080 That works. 1611 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,080 Great. 1612 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,080 Exactly. 1613 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,080 Awesome. 1614 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,080 Well, thank you so much. 1615 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,080 Yeah. 1616 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080 And have a great rest of your weekend. 1617 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,600 And I hope I will see you Tuesday. 1618 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:55,600 Yes. 1619 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,600 Have 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1675 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,640 It's a personalized cocktail recipe recommendation 1676 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,360 just for you. 1677 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,600 I want one. 1678 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,640 I'm already had one. 1679 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,000 Oh, OK. 1680 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,880 You can find our link tree and our website pnwhauntsandhomicides.com 1681 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,800 in the episode description to check out all of the fun 1682 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,560 that we have to offer. 1683 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,560 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1684 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,560 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1685 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,560 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1686 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,560 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1687 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:26,320 Sorry, I have to burp. 1688 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,240 You're totally back. 1689 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,440 Thanks, giving me a-- 1690 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,040 I hope you don't edit that for now. 1691 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,080 Yeah, seriously, I would leave that as-- 1692 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,840 That is Thanksgiving right there, right? 1693 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,000 Like, totally. 1694 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,040 I just manifested the shit out of that. 1695 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,480 I swear, I have a response. 1696 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,800 It's just slightly stuck behind a bubble. 1697 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,000 [LAUGHTER]