Oct. 31, 2024

A Dance with Dimensions: The Elevator Game

A Dance with Dimensions: The Elevator Game

Ever wondered what would happen if you pressed the right buttons to enter another world? We unravel the spine-chilling mystery of the Elevator Game, a ritual rumored to transport players to an alternate dimension, and its eerie connection to the...

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Ever wondered what would happen if you pressed the right buttons to enter another world? We unravel the spine-chilling mystery of the Elevator Game, a ritual rumored to transport players to an alternate dimension, and its eerie connection to the tragic events at the Cecil Hotel involving Elisa Lam. Originating from Korea, this game is not just about the rules of button sequences and strict silence; it's a psychological dance on the edge of curiosity and fear.

Brace yourself for a thrilling ride that mixes humor with caution, as we dissect the game's unsettling rules and the bizarre scenarios that could unfold. We end this episode by playing a scary game ourselves - some true crime trivia! Happy Halloween, Creepy People! 🎃

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Hi Caitlin, Hi Cassie, Hi creepy people. Hello, we had

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so much fun hanging out in our costumes that we

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just decided that we would give you another bonus and

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don't leave them on hang out do bonus stuff. Yeah,

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because it's Halloween season and we think you deserve it.

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You would deserve it. You worked hard to get to

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the spooky season. It's right, and we're rewarding you. And

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I said that right the first time. M hm cheers.

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So we've been drinking wine. I mean like a glass,

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not too much, like just you know, five of these

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little tiny glasses.

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Fine, I think we've got like a half a bottle

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between us.

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So I feel like it's not that bad. Oh, nothing

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too crazy. He's just trying to make excuses for my

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mouth where it's not working. I mean it happens fast, yeah, yeah,

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with the mouth. Where's it happens real fast. Well, if

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you don't know who we are, this is PNW Haunts

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and Homicides. Oh right. We chat about true crime, the paranormal,

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anything spooky in the Pacific Northwest and sometimes we do bonuses. Yeah. Yeah,

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that's what today is. That's that's what we're doing. So

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I mentioned this to Caitlin a while back, like not

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that long ago, it was pretty recent, like fifteen minutes ago.

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It was a longer ago than that, like in between

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a long time and fifteen minutes. Yeah, but she didn't

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know what this was at first when I mentioned it. No,

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but then I told her it was kind of looped

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in with a true crime story and she's like, oh, yeah,

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I know that. I know exactly what you're talking about.

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I know that ish Yeah. So I was like, well,

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let me shittily explain it to you in like one sentence,

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and that was cool. It suffeist for then. Yeah, but

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I was like, well, what if I actually go deeper

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into this and tell her all of the ins and

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outs of the Elevator game, A.

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Game I would simply never play. I feel not even.

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At the Benson. I don't know. I think it's big enough.

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You need like ten floors. Oh, how tall is the Benson.

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I don't think it's anywhere near that tall. I don't know,

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look pretty tall from the outside. Okay, well I'll look

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go look it up. I want to know. Oh, it's

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twelve stories. Okay, I'm like, it went it went away off.

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You're totally right, I don't know why. I was like,

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it's like three stories. We did only go to two stories,

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like we went to the first level and then the

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second level, so we didn't quite get to see all

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of the building yet. Yeah.

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Yeah, and it's actually technically a thirteen story hotel.

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No way. Yeah, I want to go do the Elevator

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game at the Benson c It's totally fine. I'll tell

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you how to play. We'll be fine.

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I'm getting two different answers here. Some are saying twelve,

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some are saying thirteen.

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So I don't know, maybe because they don't count like

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the thirteenth or well, I was thinking maybe they don't count.

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The lobby is level one. I don't know, and because

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like lobby and then one, two, three, I don't know.

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Oh could be yeah, that might make sense, actually I try.

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Yeah, look at you. I go in a lot of elevators.

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It's probably a normal amount. Yeah, just like average. Well,

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this game is also called the Elevator to Another World.

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No thank you, or I think the Elevator rituals one

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of them. Okay, do you wanna know how to play

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and what happens?

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I mean sure, I don't want to accidentally play it

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without even like realizing, So.

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It would be kind of hard, but I can see

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how you could do it.

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Oh okay, great, buttons.

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Just kidding.

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Oh is that like all there really is to it?

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I mean, I guess you're gonna tell me.

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Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. Okay, I'll let you know.

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Then we'll decide at the end if we're going to

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go to the Benson and play this. Okay. So the

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Elevator game is an urban legend, and they say it

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started in Korea, or some say Japan. I don't know

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if they're just kind of like lumping them in together.

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You're like, are you not sure which country? Yeah, but

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I think a lot more places say it originated in Korea. Interesting, okay.

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And this game kind of gained popularity in like twenty

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thirteen because of a very sad thing, Alisa Lamb's death

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at the Cecil Hotel in La and so there there

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was footage of her kind of acting strange in an

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elevator and so people just kind of were like, Oh,

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she's playing the Elevator game, and like that's what killed her.

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I don't obviously, I don't think that's true.

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Yeah, kind of seems like not so much, because if

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it's supposed to be taking you to another world like

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that piece of it did not work out to be true.

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Yeah, spoiler alert, unless it took her there and spat

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her back out, because there's some there's some weird things

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that happen at the end if you don't end it right.

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Oh but obviously I don't think that's what happened to her,

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but okay, yeah, but kind of like a wigiboard, like yeah,

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like if you don't close it out right, okay, have

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you left so so intense. But that's the reason it

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got kind of linked to her stories because there was

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footage of her in an elevator, and then obviously online

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people wit nuts about it and have all of their

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own theories about true crime and so all of the sleuths,

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it's forever linked, unfortunately. Yeah, so this is a game.

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You can play alone, or you can share this experience

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with a friend. Caitlin, it did my weird wink. That

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was just my cheek moving. Yeah.

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I don't think that's as enticing or convincing as you

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might be thinking.

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Don't you want to play with me? I could be

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in a haunted house. I'd be really good. You really

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would be. Yeah, you were born for this. So it

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needs a building with at least ten floors, so the

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ventsen would work. We look that up and they say

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it does have to be a public building too, so

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not like your own private building. I guess if you

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have a building with ten floors when you just.

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Like casually own, Yeah, something that's ten or more stories.

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Yeah, so it does have to be a public and

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obviously it needs to have an elevator. Yeah, fair point,

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fair point, it is in the name of the game. Yeah. Yeah.

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To play this game, you get in the elevator and

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you ride the floors in a certain order. Oh and

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if someone enters the elevator on one of the floors

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that you stop at, or one of the players gets out,

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you have to restart. Oh okay, so you can't really

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interact with anybody.

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It's kind of starting to sound like Monopoly, like the

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longest game ever, because it's a hotel, and how the

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hell are you supposed to be uninterrupted?

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Right, Well, doesn't have to be a hotel, it just

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has to be a public building. True, but I don't

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know the cecil how pop in that was in the

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middle of the night, Like obviously some shit went down

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without anybody knowing, so yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, but

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the bed thy Yeah, it seemed pretty I feel like

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we would have to do it in the middle of

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the night, probably because it was people come in, and

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we said before they use the bar as like a

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public space, so it's not just people staying there that

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come in the building. Yeah, it's pretty busy, I imagine. Yeah.

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I don't know how many elevators they have to, like

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if they just have like one or if they have multiple.

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That obviously depends on the traffic.

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I think at the Benson they probably have just the

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one because remember she was talking about how and correct

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me if I'm remembering this wrong, but I think she

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was talking about how most hotels at the time would

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have had like a staircase on this side of the

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building and then a staircase on like the opposite side,

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and the Benson just has the one to get up

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to like guest rooms. So I think probably, I mean

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it's been renovated and things. Obviously we talked about that

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quite a bit, yeah, over the years, but I would

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think probably putting in just the one elevator, yeah, would

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be like the easiest way to go about it.

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But we'll have to see when we go back. Maybe

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service elevators, though I feel like that is a little

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bit different. Dude, using a service elevator would be like

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extra creepy for this game. I think, Yeah, I kind

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of want to do that. Okay, Okay, let's continue convincing

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Caaitln to never ever play this game, because that's basically

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what I'm doing here. Yeah. Essentially, so you start by

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going to the fourth floor, and then if there's no interruptions,

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no one comes in or out, you go down to

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the second floor. Okay. Then you go up to floor

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six okay, and then back down to floor two okay,

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and then all the way up to floor ten. Oh.

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And this is all like if anybody gets in or

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out at any point, you got to start all over again.

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So the next one you do, you go down to

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the fifth floor, and this is where some shit kind

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of starts to happen. Allegedly. If there's a woman that

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enters the elevator with you at the fifth floor, do

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not look at her, do not talk to her, like,

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don't acknowledge her at all. Pretend she does not exist.

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This woman is not a woman. Oh boy, she's not human.

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Oh boy, if you do talk to her, look at her,

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acknowledge her, she might decide that she needs to keep

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you for her own But for why, I don't know.

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It didn't say oh, to play with you. Also, I

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don't know how you're supposed to know, Like what if

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it's just a normal woman getting on at the fifth

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floor and you have to start all over. I mean,

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I guess you don't know until you know. But if

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it's at four five after doing the other sequences, just

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don't even even if you think it might be human,

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just like, don't yeah, don't acknowledge.

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I mean I feel like that really follows like my typical.

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Preference more interactions in a public setting. No thank you.

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I just wonder, like how hard she tries to get

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you to talk to her though, Oh, will she start

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talking to you? Like, hey, where are you from? What's

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a good restaurant in town? Like? Does she normal?

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You can't even look at her, so, I mean, is

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she doing something crazy that you can see like in

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the corner of your eye?

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Like yeah, I was just thinking like you can see

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her probably like on your peripheries, and I don't want that.

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I mean, I kind of do. I just want to

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see what happens, like I want to know, but I

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don't really need to experience it for myself. Fine, I'll

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do it by myself. To wait the lobby and make

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sure I come back. Yeah.

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Yeah, somebody called the Ghostbusters.

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So if you make it through that and you don't

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speak or talk to her, I guess she goes away.

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And then you have to press the first floor button. Okay.

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The elevator then will either go down to the first

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floor normally in which you exit and you never look back.

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You just leave, just go, but it might start going

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up to the tenth floor instead of the first floor

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like the button you pushed. Okay. If the elevator reaches

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the tenth floor without interruption, you can then exit the elevator.

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For the first time in this entire game, you are

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allowed to exit the elevator and if a woman asks

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in a very high pitched voice, where are you going?

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What's wrong? I don't know if that's her voice, that's

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just what I interpreted the high pitch to be. Well,

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I mean, I for one and hate it, but don't

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respond to her. Okay, do the same thing, totally ignore it. Okay.

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Once you get off on the tenth floor. You are

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in another world, okay, like you're there. You made it,

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you crossed over into the unknown, and you're alone there.

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I mean, you could have your partner who you're playing with,

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but otherwise, no one else is in this world except

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for I guess this person who's asking what's wrong. I

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don't know where they're at or where they come from.

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I feel like that's ominous. You might not. It looks

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like you don't see them, though you kind of just

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maybe hear them. I'm not really sure. Okay, there's not

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a ton of details.

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Yeah, I mean, I would imagine this would be a

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difficult thing to report back on.

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Yeah, yeah, Okay. Also, your husband just walked by the

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little crack in the door, and I almost peed my

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pants even though I just.

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Peed Holy shit, what are husbands for if not to

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make you a little bit freaked out, so much so.

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They almost scare the pepa out of you. It's fine, baby,

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you're scaring the pp out of us. What do you say?

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I'm sorry, I'm almost done. I don't know what he's doing.

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I never know what he's doing. Where's my meat loaf? Ma? Okay,

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so we're kind of distracting ourselves. Well, let's keep going

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because there's more.

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Like meat loaf sounds good, you know, I don't know.

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Let's take the meat loaf on the elevator. Maybe that's

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the secret. You gotta take.

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Food with you and then you're fine. Well, I mean

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we did.

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That was the number one concern when we thought we

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might get locked in behind the gate.

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That's true. You probably do want to take food with

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you because your electronics won't work in this other world,

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so you can't eat Uber eats.

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I say that like I'm always ordering Uber Eats and

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that's just sim waiting.

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Not the case, but I want to have the option. Yeah,

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when the options taken away, Yeah, it's horrifying. This other

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world is pretty close to the world that you came from.

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Like you you might not know the difference. What was

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the point? But all the lights will be off. Only

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thing that you can see is like a red glow

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coming from any windows, and it's from a red cross

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that's in the distance. Okay, why is this something that

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we're trying to accomplish because you want to visit another

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world in return and get bragging rights and say that

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you made it back.

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I mean, okay, are there people making it back. Are

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there people making it there and then making it back?

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I don't know. I have so many questions. I bet

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Reddit would tell you. Fuck. Ok I get like super

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deep on people's like personal stories because we're just just

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died in like how to play okay right now? Yeah,

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but yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting to see

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if anyone actually did it and came back and had

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a story. Yeah, that would be so interesting. Or if

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it's just instructions and then no one ever returns to

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tell their tale.

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That's that's my concern, primarily, I feel because this other

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world sounds like.

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Yeah, but you can return back to your own world.

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So the goal is to just enter that world and

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then get back, probably as fast as you can to

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the elevator that you got up there on. So you

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definitely have to find the same elevator. Yeah, don't go

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too far.

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I'm saying allegendly on that because I'm gonna need someone

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to fact check to confirm this, to confirm what to

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confirm that, like you can come back like yeah, I

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don't know. You've got to follow all the rules though, Okay,

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but apparently if you go too far, like you can

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lose track of the elevator, like the distance gets weird,

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and of course you can, yeah, so be careful.

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I don't like that at all. So returning, you have

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to get back in the same elevator and then go

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through the same order of floors that you did to

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get up there, So four to six, two, ten, five one,

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and then when you press the button for the first floor,

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it will start going back up to the ten floor again,

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and you have to cancel this before it gets there

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by pushing any other floor button apparently, okay, so to cancel,

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push any other floor and then I guess. Then when

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it cancels, you can try to push floor one again

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and it should work. It should take you down, not

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backa okay, when you get to the first floor. Before

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getting off the elevator, this is very important. Before you

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exit the elevator, you want to check your surroundings very

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carefully and just make sure everything is how it's supposed

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to be like the world. You remember, if something is

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even just a little bit off, don't get off the elevator.

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Oh god, don't do it, because you'll be trapped there forever.

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Probably I don't, okay. First of all, just too many steps.

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There's you need to write it down for sure, oh

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a thousand percent, but not don't just have it on

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your phone though, because it doesn't work in the other world.

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Well right, exactly. And I'm sorry, but I've had printed

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map quest directions and still fuck that up. So I'm sorry.

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This is just I'm not prepared to roll the dice

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on this one, and I don't think so.

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Good thing. I think it's kind of like forgiving in

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that you can like start it all over, you know,

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if someone gets in, like I feel like it's semi forgiving.

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If you mess up.

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The front end, yes, and that's not even you messing up,

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that's just like you're in a public space, so of

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course that is gonna happen.

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And I feel like, but if you pushed like six

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instead of or if you push like five instead of six,

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you could just start all over. I think. Yeah, if

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you're in the beginning, you're right, though, once you've been

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to the other world and trying to get back, it's

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a little bit different. Yeah, if you think something is wrong,

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you have to repeat the sequence of floors until you

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get back down to the first floor and you are

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sure that that is your world. That sounds fucking exhausting.

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I know, so like, hopefully it works the first time

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I take it back. It's like a thousand times worse

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than Monopoly. Well yeah, yeah, I guess it depends on

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how many times you have to go through the same

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steps of floors. How many floors of that?

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I mean, I can predict it would be a few

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floor Yeah, no, thank you.

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But once you get to the first floor and everything

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looks okay, it feels right, you can safely exit the elevator.

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Okay, great, are you about just help me something else?

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It's like, oh, but also maybe so this is very interesting.

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So at any point during this game, if you faint

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or pass out for whatever reason, you will likely wake

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up in your own home and not know how you

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got there.

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I mean, I guess if you faint, that's probably how

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it normally works.

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I feel like you'd probably wake up in a hospital room.

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I guess maybe. I guess it depends on who's there

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with you. Yeah, and I don't know. But if you

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suddenly wake up in your own room after playing the

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elevator game, you didn't know what was happening, it was

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in the middle of it. You want to make sure

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again that your check your surroundings, checking your world very

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carefully to make sure it is your world, okay, and

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that you're not trapped in in the other dimension okay,

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just from passing out, all right, from being a scaredy cat.

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Oh my god, this is the worst game ever. And

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this kind of happens to people that are like a

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little more susceptible to things, a little more spongy as

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I like to call it. Mm hmm.

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Yeah, tell me more about why I shouldn't play this game.

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I'll be with you if you faint, I'll take care

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of you.

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Yeah, except what if, like only my physical body is

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still with you, and like the other god like conscious

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parts of you are going somewhere else.

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What if it's like insidious, where like someone other's soul

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like takes over your body and you wake up and

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you're not Caitlin anymore. Okay.

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Well I've never seen that for obvious reasons, but if

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you ever watch The OA, there's sort of.

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A similar kind of a thing that happens. So yeah,

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I think you would really like it the insidious, like

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because you said the Oay, so like the Insidious. It's

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about like astral traveling, so they're like their soul leaves

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their body while they're sleeping and then like other things

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want to take it over. No, thank you.

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I'm like, you're like I've got Google fingers.

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Also, one last thing, Okay, you shouldn't try to play

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this game too many times. I don't know what the

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number of well, I don't know what too many times is,

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but it does make you a little more susceptible to like,

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you know, accidentally, like a little slippage through to the

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other side create. Yeah, so if you play it too

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many times, you might just go crazy, apparently, and start

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slipping in and out of dimensions.

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Okay, I was gonna say, I mean, oh, all you

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do is go crazy, Like, come on, we're halfway there.

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Yeah, I mean crazy. It's not a bad thing, right,

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but we don't want to be slipping in and out

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of dimensions, Willy nilly. I don't think so. No, I

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don't think that I do. No, So you wouldn't play

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this game with me. I'm pretty sure it's not for me.

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We should have a Patreon contest where some the winner

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gets to play the Elevator game with Cassie.

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There you go, she needs a companion, you guys, because

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I don't know if you're picking up on this at

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all as you're listening or watching, but it's probably not

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in a million fucking years going to be me.

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That's true. I don't know why I said Patreon either.

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This is going to be in the main feed. So

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maybe we should have a contest for anybody, everybody, all,

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all of the nordy people. I'm like creepy people kind

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of people. Well, yeah, if anyone's interested in playing this

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game with me and doesn't want to murder me, also,

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I'm interested, let's do this. Yeah. Okay, h speaking of murdering. Yeah,

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we have a couple of cards we might want to

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draw and see what's on them. Do you want to

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explain what these cards are? They're not Taro. I'm gonna

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do my best.

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I haven't really had a chance to engage with these

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up to this point, so I got a big all

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stayck of them.

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There you go, and okay.

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I'll read you the discrruption. It says, crack the case

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with this deck of one hundred and forty multiple choice

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trivia questions covering some of the most fascinating crimes and

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the real life criminals behind them.

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I love multiple choice, the best kind of test exactly.

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So it's topics taken from history and pop culture, from

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cons and heist to unsolved mysteries and more. And this

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says the game is sure to challenge even the most

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devoted true crime fans Gie Alan dregsap Dad.

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So should I pull a card and read it for you?

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I don't know. I'm afraid, Like what if there's one

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that I don't know? But we can cut it out.

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There's a lot. If it's embarrassing, we can cut it out, verry.

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H huh, Okay, I'll pass it over to Yeah, okay,

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So there's this one sticking out right here.

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I want It's like I'm pulling tarot, but I'm not.

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You put them pretty and I just put them back.

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Oh oh sorry, I thought I thought they were more even,

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and no, I messed it up. I'm so sorry. Right, well,

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that looks kind of cool. Oh, like you're censoring my eyes,

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like like you don't know who I am. I should

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push the button to change my voice, but I can't

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get to it fast enough because I don't know where

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it's at.

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Yeah, we are gonna have to play around with the

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soundboard thing because there's so much fun.

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Oh, we will eradicated in twenty thirteen. The notorious silk

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Road online marketplace was primarily used for what criminal activity?

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A identity? Theft? B, arms dealing, C, murder for hire

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or D illegal drug sales?

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Oh god, I mean I'm pretty sure it was used

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for all of the above.

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Will you read the question again? Yes, it's not all

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of the above, no, I know. Eradicated in twenty thirteen,

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the notorious silk Road online marketplace was primarily used for

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what criminal activity? Do you need the answers again?

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Yeah?

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Go ahead? A identity theft, B, arm stealing, C, murder

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for higher D illegal drug sales. I think it was

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primarily the murder for hire. Is that your final answer?

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I don't know. Are you going to bet a million

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dollars on this quest? My god? Do you want the

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fifty to fifty? Okay? Yeah, okay, so the fifty fifty

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is a identity theft or D illegal drug sales?

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Okay, it was between the murder for higher and the

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drug sales. I'm like I said, I think they really

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00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.640
used like it was like kind of all of the above.

467
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.680
Yeah, drug sales, and that's what I that's what I

468
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:59.559
remember from Yeah, yes, that's correct. I was like, are

469
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.119
you sure? Is that your final in there? Yeah? Like,

470
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.119
I don't know, was it really used for you should

471
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.880
do a little episodey on this?

472
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.519
Yeah, I mean it's I haven't looked at that super

473
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.519
in depth, just because I mean, Internet crimes are always

474
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.480
it's super interesting, but it can be really difficult to

475
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.160
I mean, number one, it's not necessarily going to be

476
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.000
P and W based, which.

477
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.359
I'll cover that there would be a link like there's

478
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:31.759
so many Yeah, there should be. Yeah, I mean that

479
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:36.079
one get gosh rolled orc Yeah, I know, I remember

480
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.160
watching a documentary on that or it was like a docuseries.

481
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:44.279
I don't remember, but yeah, do you want to read

482
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.680
the one you pulled for me? Yeah?

483
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.240
Okay, so some of you are going to be probably

484
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.640
screaming you know the answer.

485
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.640
So I will am I not gonna know. I don't know,

486
00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:59.519
I'm curious to see. Okay.

487
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.680
I think it is fortuitous that this was the one

488
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.839
that was kind of flipped. It was flipped up a

489
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.720
little bit and I was like, oh, what's this. Then

490
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.039
I went to grab it and then I was like,

491
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.519
shut the fuck up, I'm gonna read this one for Cassie. Okay,

492
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.640
So that's how we got here. It's just like taro. Yeah, okay,

493
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.359
what true crime podcast ends with the catchphrase stay sexy

494
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:24.759
and don't get murdered?

495
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.680
Oh okay, okay, I think I might know.

496
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:36.200
Okay, Cereal Case File my favorite murder or doctor Death.

497
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.480
It's my favorite murder. Oh it, you crushed it. Yeah,

498
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.079
I've probably seen the stickers.

499
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.000
I maybe I think I've heard you say it recently,

500
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.640
like within the past month or so. I think you

501
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.920
told me that, and I was like, oh they say that,

502
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.519
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, what am I trying?

503
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:56.200
No comments?

504
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:01.599
No, yeah, probably the safest. Yeah.

505
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:01.480
Uh.

506
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:06.319
Mixed feelings from from people on that catchphrase.

507
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.039
I think you know you can see both sides? Do

508
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:13.039
you do? You should we pull another one? Just like

509
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.720
one more each. I feel like it's just fun. Unless

510
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.279
you want to do more and more, I don't care.

511
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.960
I mean more and more. Do you want to do more? More?

512
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.759
More and more? That would be more better. I woke

513
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.279
up with so much anxiety that I feel like now

514
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:28.559
I'm just insane.

515
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.440
I feel like the last couple of recording sessions like

516
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:37.799
we've taken turns or sometimes simultaneously been very punchy.

517
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.319
Yeah, just like very I don't know, very off kilter.

518
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:49.559
Yeah it's fun. Okay, Yeah, I grab another one, another one. Oh,

519
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:56.359
doing the intuitive all right, I like it? Yeah, oh

520
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:01.920
this is interesting. Oh oh my god, what you know

521
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.359
this one? Okay, this is very interesting. Okay. The twenty

522
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.960
month old son of what aviator was kidnapped in March

523
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.160
of nineteen thirty two. Oh you mean the Lindbergh baby.

524
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:18.039
Say she's going to answer it before she even needs to. Yeah.

525
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:23.839
So the options were A Orville Wright, B John Glenn

526
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.359
See Amelia Earhart, which is like, that's okay, okay.

527
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.160
So they tried to throw in some names there that

528
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.519
are associated with aviation to really like oh yeah, that

529
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.039
rings a bell and it's like yeah, because like Orville,

530
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.480
he was like he's like one of the right brothers.

531
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:46.160
Orville Redenbacher, right with the popes, the popcorn, right and

532
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.000
then you popcorn and then yeah the plane plus Oh

533
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:50.880
that would be cool.

534
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.839
That is an interesting one because they do have a

535
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.920
case coming up that has to do with aviation.

536
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.599
Oh yeah, is it Amelia Earhart? I'm obsessed with her.

537
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.480
I don't know why, but like I really like her.

538
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.599
I mean I think she was such a unique woman

539
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.160
in that era, and I think in a lot of ways,

540
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.720
like even today, she would stand out as being like

541
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:24.119
really kind of a bold, a bold person. But the

542
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.960
fact that it's like it's anything unsolved.

543
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.519
Yeah, really, they still don't know what happened to her

544
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:31.160
right as far.

545
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.400
I mean my knowledge, I mean, unless they just figured

546
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.200
it out yesterday.

547
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:39.880
And nice email us if you know what happened to Amelia. Hello,

548
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.880
call this hotline. Do you have any information on the

549
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.000
disappearance of Amelia or Heart?

550
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.079
I mean, we do have a text number. I'm pretty

551
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.240
sure that people can reply to us when we send

552
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.079
out our little love notes text.

553
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.039
Okay, yeah, do it? Do it?

554
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.559
I know? Shit, Actually I don't. I don't have it

555
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.960
memorized because it's a really weird number. But maybe I will.

556
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.599
Uh maybe we'll have to drop that in the show notes.

557
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.119
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So sign up for a text yeah,

558
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.160
and emails also that and patron.

559
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:23.839
And do all the things. Smash that subscribe button. That's

560
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:30.839
like jerking off, I mean that's how you get okay,

561
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:39.160
sorry mom, Verry Mom. This is fucking hilarious. I I

562
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.200
just picked one, like right off the top.

563
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:45.440
And is it a Lisa Lamb. This one was mad

564
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.480
for y'all. Oh, okay, okay, and I think you're gonna

565
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:52.480
see why. And it makes me I feel like it's fortuitous,

566
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.440
so embarrassed.

567
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.000
If I don't know, I okay, it's possible that you won't,

568
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.480
but I feel like this is like almost a little

569
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:05.200
sign out our upcoming creative oh show. Okay, okay, okay,

570
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.519
I got it. I gotta just spit out the question

571
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.159
or I'm going to just spit I don't.

572
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.360
That's not what he said. No, I never do what.

573
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.000
US state is home to the Emerald Triangle, a region

574
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:25.159
that has long been associated with large scale illegal marijuana farms.

575
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.760
California. Oh my god, you guessed it right off, because

576
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.639
I've been googling this. This has been on my list

577
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.199
of things to talk about. Well, and I was, but

578
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.639
then I realized it was more true crime. Well it's

579
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.880
kind of both. Yeah, it's kind of both. I knew.

580
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:47.199
Okay, Yeah, so all four multiple choice it was first

581
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.400
option is a Oregon, I mean, I get it.

582
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.360
Yeah. I wanted to say Washington because like the Emerald,

583
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.519
but I was like, no, it's not because yeah, that's

584
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.599
one of the options. So it was Oregon, Tennessee, California,

585
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.960
and Washington, Tennessee. That's like not even clothes.

586
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.599
Well, I think there was an operation, and it might

587
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.880
not be Tennessee. I'm probably remembering wrong. Oh, I remembered.

588
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.639
It's I'm pretty sure Kentucky.

589
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:23.679
Oh chicken, No, it was so you know, have you

590
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.440
ever heard about I mean, do you have any familiarity

591
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.000
with like Kentucky bluegrass, like the music.

592
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.679
Yeah, and then I think, really, I could be wrong,

593
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.519
but I'm pretty sure they have like a type of

594
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.119
actual grass that grows in Kentucky.

595
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.960
Okay, it was like music I've heard of her, like

596
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:48.679
actual blue grass.

597
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.280
Yeah, I mean it's not it has like a bluish

598
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.760
hue to it. But yeah, I'm pretty sure there was

599
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.159
an operation where like it got kind of like the

600
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.760
weed that they were growing there because it's oh gosh,

601
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.440
and I can't remember the specifics of it, but it

602
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.679
was popularized and came from like this specific part of Kentucky,

603
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.000
like I think up in the mountains, and it just

604
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.800
like went crazy because at that point it was like

605
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.679
all of the weed was being grown in places like

606
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.440
Mexico and California, and you know, kind of.

607
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:28.079
The usual suspects if you will.

608
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.760
But all of a sudden there's like this, Oh, what's

609
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.280
this Kentucky blue Grass? I might have to I might

610
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.199
have to look at that one again because that it's

611
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:39.039
kind of interesting.

612
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:45.639
I'm curious why Tennessee, Like what Tennessee has with Emerald things,

613
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.039
like is there some sort of.

614
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.400
Maybe it's just a misnomer, you know, like something that

615
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:51.760
was it's like the red Herring.

616
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.880
M Yeah, I don't know. Just because you said all

617
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.000
those other people were connected with like aviations, I'm like,

618
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.280
what are real Tennessee. I think they email us let

619
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:02.559
us know.

620
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.599
I think that they're just kind of trying to throw

621
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.840
in some answers that like seem plausible.

622
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.719
But that does kind of make you wonder, like what

623
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:10.800
about Tennessee.

624
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.519
Yeah, oh, because Nashville, because it gets wild there.

625
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.719
That's always the answer if it's a question about Tennesseeville,

626
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.039
because she'd be wildin we had a story from someone

627
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.920
from Tennessee and the creepy people chronicles maybe they know.

628
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.519
Yeah, if you could just right back with any information

629
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:36.599
you have about Nashville, Kentucky Bluegrass, Uh, the Emerald Triangle,

630
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.159
Uh what else weed? Yeah, that's what I got out

631
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:48.119
of this conversation. Yeah, well, hey, listen, what does that not?

632
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:52.039
I mean, that's funny. I love that and I'm so

633
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.360
glad I knew the answer me too.

634
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.599
Yeah, okay, I found one.

635
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:03.559
Okay, what Fall River, Massachusetts resident was acquitted of the

636
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.480
murder of her father and stepmother in Morton.

637
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.960
Pick an easier one, pick a hard. I was like,

638
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:27.000
that was the easy one. Okay, let's see. I don't know.

639
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.679
Some of these are a little probably too old. Oh,

640
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.159
here we go, speaking of cals.

641
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.679
Oh, you're gonna stomp me probably on this one. I

642
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:39.000
don't know.

643
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.599
You might know this one. In eighteen ninety five, Irish

644
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:48.639
dressmaker Bridget Cleary was murdered by her husband due to

645
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:55.719
his suspicion that she was secretly What a is a ghost,

646
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.400
which begs a question like why would you murder?

647
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.639
Again? I want that to be the answer, but I

648
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:10.719
don't think that's correct. Be a changeling, ce a demon

649
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:18.719
or d a selky? I feel like you wouldn't have Wait,

650
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:23.280
this is Irish though, right is it the selky? It

651
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.599
is not change? Oh? I was like, I don't it's one,

652
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.840
It's one of them. Yeah, Oh okay, hold on. I

653
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.599
would have you know that if I would have thought

654
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.519
about it like a tiny bit more. I do know

655
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.320
that changelings are like, it's an Irish thing.

656
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.280
Yeah, it originates from sort of that part of the UK.

657
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:46.320
Maybe I was mistaking our selky. I think that they're Irish. No,

658
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:47.039
I think you're right.

659
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.960
Yeah, I think Selki also, I don't know if it's

660
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.159
specifically Irish.

661
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.239
It might be, but I do believe.

662
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.760
That sort of legend or folklore originates from that region.

663
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.239
They're humans with seal skin on. But like changelings are

664
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.920
the ones where they they like take them from birth

665
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.719
and replace them with like a faery or something.

666
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.880
Right, not necessarily from birth, but it can be from

667
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.480
it just like from as a child.

668
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.119
Yeah, I feel like that is.

669
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.599
It's a phenomenon that I believe you hear more about

670
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:32.000
happening to children, like often very young children and or babies.

671
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.800
That seems right to me. Oh creepy yeah.

672
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.559
Okay, there's like one other super easy one that I'm like,

673
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:47.159
that's I can't. I can't with that, But I'll do

674
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.119
this one because I think it's one of the more

675
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.599
interesting ones of what I have in my hand.

676
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.719
Okay, okay.

677
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.800
In nineteen twenty five, the Austrian con artist Victor Lustig

678
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.480
I'm assuming, received seventy thousand francs in a scheme to

679
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.519
do what where is.

680
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:14.719
This from again? Austria, Austria. Yeah, A sell the Eiffel Tower.

681
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:25.239
B kidnap Edith poff Ce, rob the Orient Express. Oh,

682
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.360
or D steal the Mona Lisa. You really don't know. Yeah,

683
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:31.119
give me the fifty.

684
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.719
Okay, So the fifty to fifty is sell the Eiffel

685
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.360
Tower or steal the Mona Lisa.

686
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:42.119
I was for some reason going with the Mona Lisa anyway.

687
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:46.559
So I'm just gonna make that my answer wrong. Yeah,

688
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:55.320
that's when we need the soundboard. Yeah. She remembers that

689
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.840
button selling the Eiffel Tower. This sounds weird.

690
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.000
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how, and goes

691
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:02.480
about doing that exactly.

692
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.599
Honestly, I feel like stealing the Mona Lisa is easier

693
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.119
than selling in the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, how exactly are

694
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.599
you moving that thing? Or maybe was it like to

695
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.480
sell the concept of it or.

696
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.519
Well maybe he was just saying like, I'm not moving

697
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.079
it anywhere, but I will sell it to you. You

698
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.320
can own the Eiffel Tower, like it stays put but

699
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:25.280
you own it.

700
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.239
So he's like a realtor. I guess, man, I wanted

701
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.880
to steal the Mona Lisa, not yea, because art shouldn't

702
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:34.320
be stolen.

703
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.800
I mean, listen, the Mona Lisa. She's been through enough.

704
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:39.360
Was she stolen before?

705
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.760
I believe? So? Yeah? Interesting, Yeah, should do an episode

706
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.000
on them.

707
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.960
There's been a couple of attempted he of the Mona

708
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.280
Lisa for sure.

709
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.480
Wasn't there like a thing of I could be completely

710
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.960
batshit insane, but like a conspiracy, like she was stolen

711
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.880
and they returned, like she was returned, but it's like

712
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.519
not actually the original, Like it's a fake that they

713
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:05.760
want people to think. Is theory. I believe there.

714
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.639
I believe that is one conspiracy theory that exists that

715
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.440
could literally be a conspiracy theory on any stolen art though,

716
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.159
so I don't know specific.

717
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.239
It's fun to think about.

718
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.599
Do you want to hear the super Duper Easy one?

719
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.159
Yeah? Okay. I was like, I'm gonna pull one more

720
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.480
for you now because I feel like we're really okay Okay.

721
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.960
The infamous unsolved murder of a woman known as the

722
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:40.119
Black Dahlia occurred in nineteen forty seven in what city

723
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.000
do you know? I don't know off the top of

724
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.440
my head. But if you give me the option things.

725
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.800
Do you want the fifty to fifty? You know what?

726
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.599
Actually I feel like that's too easy, like California somewhere right.

727
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.320
Yeah, Okay, then I'm going to give you the fifty

728
00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:03.480
to fifty. See Los Angeles, California? Do you San Diego, California?

729
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:09.320
Sandia? I would say Los Angeles? Yeah? Who says Los Angeles? La? Yeah?

730
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.920
I mean well, yeah, for some reason I was gonna

731
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:14.280
say that, but for some reason, there was like something

732
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.239
in the back of my mind saying San Francisco. But

733
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.760
I don't know why. Huh. But so yeah, I don't know,

734
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.760
but yeah, La makes sense. Obviously she was an actress. Yeah,

735
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.920
kill me pull one more for you. This sister fun.

736
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.440
I know, we just have fun here. I know we're

737
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
gonna do some more fun stuff with this, for sure.

738
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:34.599
Should we do it Trivia night?

739
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.360
Yes, Patrio Patreon trivia Night. That'd be really fun. That

740
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.119
would be fun. We're doing it, joined the Patreon. Okay,

741
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:49.119
what service did the disgraced biotech entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes offer

742
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.679
through her fraudulent startup Thorough Nose sharrhosrs. You know it?

743
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:57.880
Do you want me to read all the things or

744
00:44:57.880 --> 00:44:58.719
do you have a guess?

745
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.800
Read the question and again, because I was just going like, hey,

746
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.159
oh in my head.

747
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.360
What service did the disgraced biotech entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes offer

748
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.320
through her fraudulent startup therenos? So, like, what services did she?

749
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.280
Okay, I don't know what this specific wording is that

750
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:19.480
they're going to use, So re meet the options. Okay,

751
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.559
telehealth therapy, Okay, everybody knows that's betterhelp.

752
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.360
How long ago was this? It doesn't have a year,

753
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.760
so I don't know, like how long ago. It's pretty recent.

754
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.840
Oh, it's pretty reason that they've actually like wrapped up

755
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:34.360
her trial.

756
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.360
Oh okay, oh okay, uh huh so a telehealth therapy.

757
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.320
B blood tests see biopsies or D genetic testing? Oh

758
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.400
my god, it's like they're not even trying it's blood

759
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.800
tests it is. I don't know anything about this, so

760
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.880
that's interesting. Really, I have no I've never heard of

761
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.440
any of this before. Wow.

762
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.639
Okay, well when we tost me, we have to end

763
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.559
this now so that I can go and find some old

764
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.079
interview clips of Miss Elizabeth to show.

765
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.519
Cassie, Like, what was she doing with the blood test?

766
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:16.639
That's really the question. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, have

767
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:23.360
a creepy Halloween. Yeah, don't sell fake blood tests, and like,

768
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:26.400
don't do the well, if you do the Elevator game,

769
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.519
be very safe. Just don't take a buddy. The simple

770
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:33.159
answer is just don't write down the instructions. Also, maybe

771
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:37.400
don't or just don't unless you're with me, Okay, because

772
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.679
I'm a shield and I'll protect it.

773
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.480
I'm gonna go eat my Chris meat burrito.

774
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.440
That's my shield. I'm not gonna eat wine. I'm just kidding.

775
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:52.079
I was like, what