1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Hopefully people are listening and God, get your fucking birdie out of your makeup bag. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Get mace. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,000 I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,000 It's just like that's a habit that I've had from such a young age. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Me too, it's really sad that we have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000 age. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Yeah. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 I'm a car when you're walking up to it. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Make sure no one's in your back seat. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Lock the door quickly. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Like, uh. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,000 [MUSIC PLAYING] 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Hi, Caitlyn. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Hi, Cassie. 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Hi, creepy people. 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Hello. 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Hello. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:53,000 If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Yeah. 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,000 And we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode so that you can get some insight into the topic. 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Yeah, just a little insight, a little insight, a little sight into your in nerds. 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Oh. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Okay. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Spooky season. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 So I'm going to let that one slide, I think. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Yeah, I mean, this will be out after spooky season, but we're still in spooky season right now. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 And I'm very, uh, Ashnikko to out right now. 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Yeah. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 You're fully engaged with the spooky of the season. 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Yes. 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Yeah. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 We're going to the concert tonight. 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 It's going to be so much fucking fun. 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 We're having the best October. 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Yeah, we really are. 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Seriously. 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Um, we may have slightly over scheduled ourselves this weekend. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Yeah. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000 It's fine. 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 We never do that. 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Yeah. 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 It doesn't happen. 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Anywho. 45 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Well, this is a creepy people Chronicles episode. 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 A tease. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Creepy people Chronicles are when we share your stories, your spookies, your ookies. 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Sometimes they're witchy or ghosty or true crimey. 49 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Yeah. 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000 That also. 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Yeah. 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Yeah. 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Yeah. 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Yeah. 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Yeah. 56 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Yeah. 57 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 And look at that. 58 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I, I have one. 59 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Oh, no. 60 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I'm like, okay, I'm really worried about the story that you're going to tell. 61 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Yeah. 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 You got me scared. 63 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Yeah. 64 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Me too. 65 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Okay. 66 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Well, you go first. 67 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Oh, should I go for? 68 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Oh, joy. 69 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Okay. 70 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 I am really just struggling today to gather my thoughts. 71 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 And I think I was telling you earlier that. 72 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,000 I'm processing an increased level of cortisol. 73 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Maybe that's what it is. 74 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 And I think it's turned off my brain. 75 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Oh, no. 76 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 So here we go. 77 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 So you are just a hat rock today. 78 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 I am just a hat rack today. 79 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Very much so. 80 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Very, very much so. 81 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 All right. 82 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 So just what you want for your Friday, your Friday, if you will. 83 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:19,000 I was leaving work and I looked down at my phone and I was like, I have 10 text messages. 84 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:30,000 And I have not been ignoring my phone all day, but it turned out it was primarily a group chat that just really kind of exploded. 85 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Okay. 86 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 But I saw that I had messages from, let's see, my mom. 87 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 It looked like it was messages from Chris, but he was part of the group chat. 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 And then I had messages from you. 89 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And I think at least one other person. 90 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 The details, some of them are a little fuzzy. 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000 So I'm leaving work. 92 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 And as I'm getting into my car, I see that I have all of these messages. 93 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000 And the way that my new work building is located. 94 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:12,000 There is a very busy corner right before a T-intersection. 95 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Okay. 96 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 And there's railroad tracks right by us. 97 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 I don't think I'm geolocating myself too much. 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Now I'm a little bit paranoid. 99 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 I don't know. 100 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Yeah, it was quite a time. 101 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:35,000 So there's a gas station that, depending on, you know, what side of the street or of the building that you're on. 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 I think of it as being like kind of behind us. 103 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,000 It's across like kind of a little rolling grassy hill. 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 That's like backs up to our parking lot. 105 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Okay. 106 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And I feel like I'm going like into a painstaking detail. 107 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And I'm like getting really nervous. 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 I want to picture it. 109 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Yeah. 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Yeah. 111 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:11,000 I know it's, I had to use objects to try to locate for Chris when I was like explaining to him when I got home last night. 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:20,000 So I've always assumed that there was a little bit more of a distance between, 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:27,000 like that little rolling grassy hill and you go down and then the gas station is down there. 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 And the backside of their building is right there. 115 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I've already, this is my second experience with something unfortunate occurring on the backside of the gas station building. 116 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 So. 117 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Oh, yeah. 118 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Okay. 119 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Which is exactly how I feel about it. 120 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Okay. 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And I am sitting there and I'm about to kind of start looking through my messages quick because I thought to myself like, Oh, man, I wonder if there's something important going on or, you know, I just don't know. 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 So I wanted to check. 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 And messages is quite a bit. 124 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 It's a lot. 125 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 It's a lot. 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:16,000 And, you know, if nine of those messages had been from my mom or from Chris, I'm thinking like, okay, there could be like legitimately. 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,840 legitimately an emergency or something. So just as a frame of reference, I'm kind of setting 128 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:28,960 up some of the deeds. Yeah. So I went to check my messages and dig out my wallet because 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:35,440 I was about to go run a couple of errands and as I'm sitting there for a minute, 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,360 I looked up and I realized there was somebody who was sitting down, 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:49,280 fully sitting down with his back up against the gas station building. And I was like, oh, 132 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:57,200 weird choice, but cool, whatever. Kind of an older guy. So I was like, all right, maybe he 133 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:04,720 walked there from somewhere and he's tired. I don't know. Okay. Sometimes you don't ask a lot of 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:12,560 questions because you're not sure if you want the answers. Anywho. And as I'm sitting there for 135 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,960 like a little bit longer, I realized that like he's looking directly at me. And then I realized 136 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:29,440 that his face is like very animatedly like angry. He's animatedly like outwardly speaking and making 137 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:38,400 direct eye contact at me. Okay. But that's I don't like that. Yeah. That's creepy. I mean, at first, 138 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:45,920 it kind of started, he just looked like he was staring right at me. So I kind of shrugged that off. 139 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,680 And I was like, whatever, like, you know, maybe he's totally zoning out. But when I realized like he's 140 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:58,880 speaking, like he's audibly speaking, I couldn't hear him because of the distance. And you know, 141 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,480 I've of course got a podcast playing in the background and you're in your car, right? Yeah, I was in my car. 142 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,960 But I was still kind of fiddling with my phone for another minute and I like look up and I'm like, 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:20,080 okay, he's like his demeanor is changing and he's like standing and he's still like seemingly 144 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:28,000 angrily like shouting up at me and like looking directly at me. I was like, okay, that's weird. 145 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,400 And I'm just kind of like, all right, I'm, you know, I just need to like get myself situated and I'm 146 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:44,480 going to leave. And then all of a sudden I looked up and he was literally charging at my car. 147 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,600 Oh my God. He was charging at my car and he just had 148 00:08:51,920 --> 00:09:02,960 the most deranged look on his face that I think I've ever seen. Like in person, in real life on a 149 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:14,320 human person's face and he was screaming and he was like just very angry. And where I was parked is 150 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:21,520 super close to the front door of the building and I knew that the front door hadn't been locked 151 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:30,480 yet. But I was also one of the very last people there. But I didn't know that there was at least one 152 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,600 person still there. I thought it might have been down to just me and one other person, but I wasn't sure. 153 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:46,720 But this guy, he closed the gap between, I thought this was a much further distance coming up that 154 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:53,360 little tiny grassy hill from the gas station then then it must be. I'm going to go out there with 155 00:09:53,360 --> 00:10:01,840 like a tape measure or something because I couldn't believe how fast he was like immediately within 156 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:10,080 like probably three or four feet of my car. And it was at that point like I was like what the fuck? 157 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:19,760 And I'm like panicking and I go to pull out, I put it in reverse and then I'm also very, very close to 158 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:27,360 the exit of like the parking lot onto the main road. The only problem is that because we're so close 159 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:35,520 to the corner, sometimes you have to wait for the cars that are turning right from the like 160 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:44,640 perpendicular road to go. So the whole time, and this is not a short distance. So if he wanted to keep 161 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:52,000 like if he was going to come up and like attack me, he could just keep running after my car. 162 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:59,600 And it's not far at all. And obviously I'm not you know hitting it up to like 70 miles per hour 163 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,440 because it's a parking lot. I don't even have enough runway to get up to that kind of speed 164 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,760 and so I'm just looking over my shoulder and looking behind me and checking my mirrors and stuff 165 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:19,840 for the few seconds that I have to sit there and wait to pull out. And just to make sure that he 166 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:31,600 wasn't like following me. And as I'm you know I've already passed by the the the main door and I was 167 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,360 panicking because I was like, oh my god, this guy is like he's so close to right there at the front door 168 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:44,480 and he could just like walk into the building. Yeah. And I was like he's clearly like not here 169 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:51,600 with us. So like what is he going to do if he stumbles into the building? And I was like, I can't get out 170 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:59,600 of my car. Like because if I do that, then I like have nowhere to go. Yeah. I don't have a way to like 171 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:07,280 get into the building and like lock the door faster than he could like catch me. So I'm panicking 172 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:15,200 because on top of like I just want to pull away from the building. I was like, oh my god, what do I do? 173 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:22,720 Like he could go into the building and like really hurt someone. Yeah. And so I'm sitting there and as 174 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:29,280 I'm like pulling away, I just like rapid honked my horn and then I just like pulled away. I was like 175 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:36,960 I have to go. I can't like because I'm sitting there thinking like can I call the main office line 176 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,080 and like try to connect to the person who's like still at the office and I'm like I don't know their 177 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:48,080 extension. Yeah. And like this is a brand new job. I don't even know everybody's names yet. 178 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:58,720 So I just basically like pulled up to the grocery store parking lot the first place that I was going to 179 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:09,120 go on my errands and I was like sitting there thinking through like I have my birdie. I own 180 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,600 mace. I have no idea where it is. Yeah. I know. Aaron, I have not found it. I haven't ordered a new one. 181 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Yes. Chris has already addressed this with me. So I don't want to hear about it. And by the time 182 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,480 this comes out, you better bet we both will have some and maybe a taser as well. But as I was like 183 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:36,880 thinking it through, I'm like my birdie is inside of a cosmetic bag zipped up in my backpack. 184 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,680 Well, that makes no sense. Yeah, it really doesn't. But my keys were getting really bulky and I wasn't 185 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:50,160 always carrying it with me and I wasn't just like always having it at the ready. And so that's that's 186 00:13:50,160 --> 00:14:01,040 changed. I fix that in the in the parking lot of a trader Joe's. But I sat there and was just 187 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:08,160 eventually I just had to get out of my car because I was like I don't want people to think I'm weird 188 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:14,160 because I've sat here so long that the person who was parked right next to me, they came out to their 189 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,000 car after I'd already been there for a couple of minutes. They pulled away and the empty parking spot 190 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,520 on my right. Somebody has pulled in, gotten out of their car. They're probably halfway done with 191 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:34,000 their shopping. I mean, the saturation. And then a new car pulled into the initially occupied spot. 192 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:44,000 So I was like I have to go. I feel like I'm just I can't like make words. I can't seem to like 193 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:53,280 clear my thoughts, but the look on this guy's face. I am not kidding you that I almost pulled 194 00:14:53,280 --> 00:15:02,320 like a quarter of a block away and just like pulled over. I just like couldn't figure out where I 195 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:09,840 should pull over. Yeah. Because it's just in a spot where it's difficult to like find a it's a 196 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:22,320 tough spot. But I was like I'm my head feels so heavy and dizzy and I could just feel like 197 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:33,440 I could feel it, but I could hear it like all of the blood rushing into my head. Yeah. And I could hear 198 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:43,840 the pounding in my ears. And I was like this is one of those times where you go from you know being 199 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,560 there's a lot of circumstances that I think probably most women in life have encountered 200 00:15:50,560 --> 00:16:02,560 that you feel a little bit uneasy. This was one of the only times I don't want to say in my life 201 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:10,320 because that if I go back far enough this is this is a feeling that I understand, but 202 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:22,880 this is the last this is the only time in like the last decade that I can clearly recall feeling like 203 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:29,360 I think if this person gets to me I really think they want to hurt me. 204 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:38,560 That's so terrifying. And I just was like alternating between being completely 205 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:48,800 catatonic and just like periods of like sobbing. Are you hearing that? Yeah. 206 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:55,600 Can we all of a sudden just got like a ton of like static in our ears and that's gone. 207 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:06,000 Okay. That's fine. I'm telling you this story is haunted. I said that jokingly, but maybe I'm not. 208 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:15,680 I don't know. It's so hard to put into words like I feel like I can't fully express 209 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:25,600 just like the way that it was like I'm lizard brain afraid. I'm purely acting on 210 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:34,560 and really like the fight or flight like I genuinely thought that this person meant to do me serious harm. 211 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,120 I don't know. It's hard to describe because I think a lot of us 212 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:47,920 feel like we're worried about that. Yeah. But it was very it was a very a moment of very real like this 213 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:55,520 is happening. Thank God you were in your car. I know. I know. Ready to go and not like at a bus stop 214 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:03,920 oh my god can you imagine if yeah I know. So as you can imagine you know I think I told you 215 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:11,120 no I didn't tell you I told because I purposefully didn't tell you what happened here because 216 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:18,720 because I wanted to build a share it and I thought maybe it would be easier to not tell it 217 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:28,320 and tell it and keep re-repeating it. Yeah. Well and then it's it's always one of those things too where 218 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:37,520 some things you want to be prepared and some things you just want to say the thing and have that be 219 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:45,520 like how your brain spits out the words. Yeah. And I thought maybe in this case it should be the 220 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,360 ladder and now I'm starting to wonder if it should have been the former. No but we can see how it 221 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:58,000 clearly affected you and I hopefully people are listening and God get your fucking birdie out of 222 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,760 your makeup bag. Get mace. I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away. It's just like 223 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,640 that's a that's a habit that I've had from like such a young age. Me too it's really sad that we 224 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,640 have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early age. Yeah. Like look under the car when 225 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,440 you're walking up to it. Make sure no one's in your back seat. Lock the door quickly like. 226 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:34,000 I don't know it just the and then there was sort of this weird feeling of like I don't 227 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:44,080 want to say retraumatization exactly but you know Chris's response was like I feel like I need to go 228 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:51,200 over there and see if this person is still there and you know he's had to do that in other situations 229 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:59,600 and sometimes you know related to his job but he was basically saying you know maybe this is a 230 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:08,480 situation where we need to figure out what his location is and you know let law enforcement be 231 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:16,640 aware. Yeah. So I'm given to understand because my my reaction immediately was like why would we 232 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:25,520 call the cops like the attitude about violence against women really of any kind any form or fashion 233 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,520 a little bit frustrating in so many cases where it's like until he hurts you there's nothing we can do 234 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:42,960 because there's no crime that's been committed but so that anybody else who's maybe you know 235 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,960 experience something like this knows it's you know in that instance you know depending on the 236 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:59,840 jurisdiction that can be considered like harassment or like a threat of violence. Yeah. Yeah. 237 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:07,680 But I was like well I don't want to leave the house again I need to just melt and not be a person 238 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:16,480 anymore. I need to just be a hat rack now and I can't do that if you leave because then I just 239 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:23,280 sit here and cry and worry that like you know maybe in the course of you trying to just report this 240 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:30,480 to the proper authorities that like something bad happens. I just yeah. Yeah. Stuntless. Yeah. 241 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:41,200 I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah. It wasn't that much fun. No. Like zero out of ten. I can't say 242 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:48,480 enough how much I don't recommend negative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it was sort of strange because I 243 00:21:48,480 --> 00:22:00,720 feel like in a weird way women are so prepared to protect themselves against violence. You know 244 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:09,040 coming perpetrated by men largely. Sorry guys. You know. Yeah. But I feel like this felt like 245 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,080 something different than like I feel like we all kind of have this sort of a trope in our minds about 246 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:23,360 like oh you know it's like the rapist that attacks you in a car park or whatever. And this felt like 247 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,240 a very different. I don't know something in my lizard brain was like I don't think that's what this 248 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,800 is. I think this person like wants to physically hurt you in not that way that you've been a 249 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:43,920 custom to think that all men do. Yeah. And it was like during the daytime it was yeah it was broad 250 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:51,440 daylight. Yeah. He was clearly on something and I think so. He was the fastest grandpa I've ever met. 251 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Oh god. I've seen people on the side of the road like recently a guy just like screaming at his 252 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,400 bike and kicking it on the side of the road and you know he looked very angry and see him full in the 253 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,200 face. Yeah. But I can just imagine like I was imagining that type of thing coming at you. It was 254 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:19,360 I in this situation you know I've seen that as well. And this was the first time that I was like 255 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:31,440 oh fuck I'm the bike. Yeah. I'm the bike. Yeah. So yeah just I think just processing it. I don't know. 256 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,240 I don't know why it feels like in a way like okay this feels very dramatic like calm down but 257 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:47,520 I feel like I have to trust the like instinctual part of me that knows that this was this was 258 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,080 not good. Like you said if I had been on foot like this would have ended very differently. I really 259 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:06,160 I really believe that. Shit. Yeah. So aside from Caitlin's absolutely terrifying fucking story today. 260 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Yeah. We do have an email. Is it scary? I don't know because surprise I haven't even read a word of it. 261 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,560 What? Yeah I feel like I because usually I kind of skim them. Yeah. But I was like you know I think it 262 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:27,440 could be fun to just not read anything about it. I kind of read the last line. I glanced at it 263 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:33,360 in the first line but I'm not sure if it's going to be much of a palette cleanser from Caitlin's story. 264 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:41,280 So oh good. Yeah. Enjoy everyone. You'll be just as surprised as I am when I read it. 265 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:48,400 I mean I do like that aspect. So it is titled Paranormal Story. So we kind of you know 266 00:24:49,040 --> 00:25:00,800 we can see what it's maybe about. Okay. They say hello. I know. Love the show. Thanks for being a wonderful 267 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:07,680 and creepy source of entertainment. You're welcome. We try. I'd like to remain anonymous. 268 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,520 This story goes back many years so I will do my best to keep it as short as possible. 269 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:22,960 But it is worth the read. Obviously. We think so. We think anything is worth the read. Love it. 270 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:30,800 When I was nine years old my family moved into the home where it all started. Okay. Where what started? 271 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:39,760 Shortly after moving there within days my little brother who is six started refusing to sleep in his room. 272 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Oh. That's not a good sign. No. I was just going to say that's a bad sign. This was never an issue at our 273 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:55,600 previous home. You don't say. Personally I always felt nervous in the house. Every time I went up the stairs 274 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,160 I couldn't help but run as fast as I could because of the intense feeling of somebody being right behind 275 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:10,080 me. Okay. No thank you. They go on to say I mean almost fall on your face fast. 276 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,320 So they were like sprinting up those stairs. I mean for some people that's just like every speed but 277 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Caitlin has to run all the time or she would just get trampled by everyone else going so fast. 278 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:32,960 Her little legs, my little legs. Every time I got to the top I'd stop, turn around and just be thankful. 279 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Nothing got me. Oh god. Why would you stop and turn around? I'd just keep going to my room. 280 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280 But that's what I was going to say. I don't want to see you just in case. No. 281 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,520 My bedroom was next to my brothers and I really hated having to walk by it all the time. 282 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:54,480 I would always need the door to be wide open because if it wasn't I would feel like someone was hiding 283 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:03,680 in there. So I'd kick it open and run if it was partially closed. Okay that's totally, I mean that's a 284 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,760 totally normal thing to do. Yeah, normal response to just a room in the house you know. Yeah I'm 285 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:17,760 I'm gonna go with that. Nobody ever went in that room. One day I came out of my bedroom and the 286 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:25,360 bedside lamp was on which I found very strange because I knew nobody. I knew nobody had been in there. 287 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:32,800 It took every bit of courage I had to go and turn it off. Well when I did the light bulb exploded 288 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:40,720 and I got quite the shock as well as a burn from hot glass. Oh no! Oh no! That is not what I expected. 289 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:51,680 Sorry. Ouch. My older sister was in her first year of high school and decided to throw a Halloween 290 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,760 party. She had this friend who was always such a bully. So I do find this part kind of amusing. 291 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Okay, I'm here for it. Yes, we don't like bullies. No. She had this tough girl persona. Always wearing a 292 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:16,720 leather jacket and acting as if she was an acting as if she was queen shit of turd island. Oh my god. 293 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,440 That's great. You know I'm just gonna say it. I'm glad that we've turned a corner 294 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:29,600 societally and just wearing leather jacket doesn't really mean anything other than that you own a 295 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,360 leather jacket. I think if you're acting like you're the queen shit of turd island and wearing a 296 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:43,680 leather jacket. Yeah, I could see. Okay. All right. Anyway, during this party she went to use the 297 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:50,800 washroom which was located at the top of the creepy staircase but came bolting out of the house 298 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,640 in a panic. The other kids tried to ask her what happened but she just kept saying there's 299 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:04,080 something in there. I don't want to talk about it. What's in there? She was quite upset that people 300 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:12,320 were so curious and asking so she left almost immediately and refused to ever go inside her house again. 301 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,000 Okay, well, so I assume it was more than just like a giant turd in the toilet or 302 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,840 well she wouldn't have been afraid of that. She was queen turd of... That's right. Yeah, queen 303 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:31,440 shit of turd island. That was her people. Yeah. She would have never felt more at home. I agree. Yeah. 304 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:38,320 My sister and I have never been all that close but a few years later she told me that she would have 305 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:44,480 really strange dreams during our time living there because my younger brother wouldn't sleep in 306 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:51,280 his own bedroom. He would either sleep in my sister's room or my mom's room. My sister's dreams were 307 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:58,480 always about my brother dying some horrible death. Oh no, I hate that. And she would wake up convinced 308 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:06,320 that it was real until she would see him sleeping soundly beside her. At the time this was all she told me. 309 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,920 So the dog? As there's a clicking outside my window. Oh okay, well listen okay, it's pull my 310 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:23,840 feet up into the chair of the block. So hold on just a sec. Oh god. Okay, all right you guys nothing can 311 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:33,760 get me now. Right. Okay. Man, but having those kinds of dreams is just the fucking worst. I don't know, 312 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:43,520 I don't know. No, no. Fast forward a few years when I was 15. I decided to move in with my dad and 313 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,400 things got pretty intense for me. I kept having this recurring dream. I'd wake up in my room and walk 314 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:57,520 over to my window, but when I looked outside it didn't look like my yard. I'd see a tree with an old 315 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:05,440 wooden and rope swing and a dirt road that would wind up past the tree. It was actually quite a 316 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:12,960 pleasant scene. I'd see an old red black deck truck, 1940 style coming up from the top of the road. 317 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:21,280 Then the sky would get dark and I'd notice the swing was now a noose. No thank you. I knew it. I knew it. 318 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,760 I knew it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Why did it transform into a noose? I don't like it. Yeah, 319 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:34,640 no, I have to go. I just remembered I have a thing. I'd run towards my door, but no matter how hard I 320 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,080 pulled it just kept slamming shut as if someone was holding the other side. No. 321 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,320 I looked to my left and this woman was there. She was tall and slim with long black hair, 322 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,800 wearing a white dress, and although I can tell you what her face looks like, 323 00:31:52,800 --> 00:32:01,760 there's just this knowing that she is beautiful. Okay, I was expecting a lot worse. She says, I like, 324 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:10,320 I hope I can breathe the rest of the night because I have forgotten how. I don't know how anymore. 325 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Okay, so she's beautiful. That's a relief. Okay. Yeah, because I mean, God forbid she should be 326 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:26,160 unattractive. Right. Yeah. That's terrifying. I can't really explain that. It's like I've seen her face, 327 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:34,160 but also haven't. That makes sense. I kind of guess like Deja Vu feeling. Yeah. It's a little bit like 328 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:42,640 fuzzy. Yeah. Yeah. She starts to loom over me as if she is getting taller and I realize she's not on 329 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:51,360 the ground. And what I see after that is so otherworldly that I can't put it into words. Okay, great. 330 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Well, we don't want to push ya. So spoiler alert, she doesn't stay beautiful. 331 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:09,600 She turns nervous. I don't. Okay. She turns so demonic and comes towards me so incredibly quick 332 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:16,880 that it jolts me awake. Ah. Just like that. Yeah. Every single time this happens, I have to get out of 333 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:25,440 bed, look out my window to make sure I'm actually awake. I had this dream four times. That is four times 334 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:34,400 too many. Yeah. Oh, many weird things happened while I lived in that room to be clear. This is a 335 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:41,600 different house, but it did stop when I moved to a different bedroom. Okay. I won't share every last 336 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,840 detail, but the other things I will mention is twice I'd been woken up from the feeling of my cat 337 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,400 jumping onto my bed, but I'd quickly realize that she's not in my room in the doors closed. 338 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:02,000 No, your cat maybe it's like a spirit cat. Yeah. Spirit guide cat or something, right? Yeah. 339 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,320 Listen, I'm already a little touch and go with cats because I don't understand them. So 340 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:17,600 ghost cats, it's a bridge too far for me personally. Okay, I won't spoiler alert this one. I'm 341 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,760 just gonna go into it. Okay, great. So I'd open my eyes to see the woman for my dreams, just 342 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:32,320 sitting on the end of my bed. She would disappear as I went to get, oh, God, I can even read. 343 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:39,280 She would disappear as I went to get a light on. So if you could see her until you went to turn on the 344 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:52,320 light, oh, God. Okay. Well, that's I'm sure there's reasons. Yeah. You know, because reason, ghost 345 00:34:52,320 --> 00:35:00,720 reasons. Yeah. Demonic reasons. I mean, yeah. For years, nothing else happened. I had almost forgotten 346 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:07,920 about it all. Well, did my best to never think or talk about it anyway. Don't blame you. Yeah. 347 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,600 I am now 32 years old. My sister and I have gotten a bit closer in the past year, and she was over 348 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,280 for coffee a couple of months ago. Somehow, we got on the topic of the first house that I mentioned in 349 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:28,880 this story. She told me more about her experience there and told me there was more than just dreams. 350 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:40,480 No, thank you. This is where shit gets weird. Oh, it's gonna be weird. Okay. I'm just gonna have to 351 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,000 take your word for it. She told me twice. She woke up to the sound of someone coming up the staircase. 352 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,480 She would walk down the hall to see a woman halfway up the stairs. The woman would look up, notice 353 00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,320 my sister and start coming towards my sister. Not step by step, but in a levitation manner, picking up 354 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:09,200 speed. My sister would run back to her room. I asked if this was a dream, but she swears she was awake. 355 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,820 Out of curiosity, I asked what this woman looks like. 356 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:14,460 - No. 357 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:22,100 - She described her as kind of like the girl from the ring. 358 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,000 - No, not. 359 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,200 - Not, no, no, no, no, no, no. 360 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,500 - Podcast over. 361 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:30,640 - Nope. 362 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,860 - You're not seeing her, hopefully. 363 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:35,460 - But nope, not gonna see her. 364 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:37,620 - Nope, we'll cleanse you. 365 00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:39,460 - As soon as she said that, 366 00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:41,220 I was in shock. 367 00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:43,100 - Well, thanks for joining me. 368 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,580 - I just bumped my shoulder on the thing 369 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:46,740 and I got someone touch me. 370 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:47,740 It was really scary. 371 00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:49,060 - I was like, no. 372 00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:50,180 - I wondered what happened. 373 00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:52,580 I was like, what was that? 374 00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:53,800 - Whoops. 375 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,860 - You're like, yeah, that's what I was wondering. 376 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,400 - I scared myself. 377 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600 - Third. 378 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640 - I asked how she was different. 379 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,340 My sister said she's not a child. 380 00:37:03,340 --> 00:37:06,260 She's tall and her hair doesn't cover her face, 381 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:08,880 but I can't picture her face for some reason. 382 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880 But she's really pretty. 383 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,720 - Oh great. 384 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,000 - So like the same person? 385 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,080 - Yeah, that, I mean, it's better if they're the same, 386 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840 probably, two of those, two separate. 387 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640 - I know that makes it more real though, 388 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440 if they're like validating in a tubbers. 389 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,600 - I appreciate it. 390 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,760 - I don't like it. 391 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560 I don't like it. 392 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400 - I literally sang to the floor when she said that. 393 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,560 I told my sister about my dreams 394 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,120 and we found other similarities. 395 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,560 I asked if anything else ever happened. 396 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,600 I said, has she ever just stopped in for a visit? 397 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,320 I'm not even kidding. 398 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,760 She said, yeah, and she sits on the end of my bed. 399 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,880 - No. 400 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,080 No. 401 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,920 No. 402 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840 - Oh my god, I just got fucking freezing cold. 403 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,680 - No. 404 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,680 - Did you get chilly with these? 405 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,320 - I don't like it. 406 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960 No, it's not cold. 407 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,320 I don't, mm-mm. 408 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,840 I got the goose flesh. 409 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,400 We've agreed to leave it there 410 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920 and never talk about it again. 411 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000 - Yeah, that's probably for the best. 412 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680 That is so fucking creepy. 413 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Yeah, and she comes and sits on the end of my bed. 414 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,320 - No. 415 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920 - I don't like that. 416 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,760 I don't like that. 417 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760 - I really don't like that. 418 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Stop doing that. 419 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440 You shouldn't hang out with her, you know? 420 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,760 Especially like when she starts saying, 421 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,160 17. 422 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,160 - No. 423 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,320 - Nope, nope, no. 424 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,800 No, no. 425 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,640 What's crazy too is that normally, 426 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920 if something was sitting on the end of my bed, 427 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400 that I thought was a beautiful woman or something, 428 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,720 be like, okay, maybe they're trying to protect you 429 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,440 or they're just making sure 430 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,000 that you're having nice dreams, 431 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920 but then the other part of the dream 432 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160 where she turns into a damn demon and rushes your face. 433 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,480 - Yeah, so I feel like in case it was unclear, 434 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,240 I don't think that's her plan. 435 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,000 - I really wanted it to be true, but. 436 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400 - Yeah. 437 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040 - Well shit, I'm so sorry you've had 438 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,280 so many traumatic events and then you wrote us a story 439 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400 about it after agreeing never to talk about it again. 440 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,720 - Yeah. 441 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,480 - Well, hopefully maybe getting it out 442 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,480 and into the universe will calm it down in your mind. 443 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240 - Alivea. 444 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,880 - Yeah, and we'll do a little terror reading for it too. 445 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,520 - Oh, great. 446 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,800 And by we, Cassie means she. 447 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,120 - You're gonna be there too. 448 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360 - I will physically be in the room. 449 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,600 My soul has left the building. 450 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,400 - We need your energy. 451 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,560 - I don't have any. 452 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,880 I don't have any. 453 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,440 (bell rings) 454 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,640 - As indie podcasters, we love to show our support 455 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,440 of other awesome shows. 456 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840 So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share 457 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,240 with you this week. 458 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,760 - Let's show them some love. 459 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440 You can find their info in our show notes. 460 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880 (upbeat music) 461 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,000 - Hi, I'm Sean McCabe. 462 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,320 - And I'm Carrie McCabe. 463 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,440 - We are well married, obviously, 464 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,920 but we're also obsessed with the darker side of things. 465 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,880 - True crime stories, alien abductions, polterguests. 466 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,480 If it leaves you scratching your head 467 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,040 and keeping those lights on at night, 468 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,200 we wanna hear about it. 469 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,840 - And that's why we host the podcast, 470 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960 Ain't It Scary with Sean and Carrie. 471 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,400 - Every week we bring our listeners a true story 472 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,960 guaranteed to send chills down your spine. 473 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,600 From histories most brutal serial killers 474 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,440 to the mystery of spontaneous human combustion. 475 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480 - Yep, lots of these stories leave unanswered questions behind 476 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,880 and you'll get to poke through the rubble of the evidence 477 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,520 with a hardened skeptic and-- 478 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080 - Someone whose mind is more open to fun. 479 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,240 - Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 480 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,080 - The show really feels like just kicking back 481 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,640 with us at home and chatting about monsters and tragedies, 482 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,480 but having a few laughs along the way. 483 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,760 - 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Have a safe, stay. 511 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,560 - You guys, we're back. 512 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,320 - And don't worry, we did get more wine. 513 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,440 - Well, of course. 514 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200 (snoring) 515 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,080 - Well, you're gonna shuffle some of that dick? 516 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,400 So I got a new deck at Margie's Outdoor Store. 517 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360 - God damn it, it is brand new. 518 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,120 I got the crow deck 519 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080 and she's been sitting on the cell and I, 520 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,080 I've been holding her and calling at her. 521 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,320 Oh, go on, you would. 522 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,520 - Yeah, and I haven't used it yet. 523 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520 - No, I pulled one card from it. 524 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,680 Pulled one card. 525 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,520 Okay. 526 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,080 It's very recent trip, very fresh, very new. 527 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,920 Okay. 528 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,920 - Now I'm just saying words. 529 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,920 - Yeah. 530 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040 I mean, that happens sometimes. 531 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,040 - Okay, so we're gonna pull a card for the spooky house, 532 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,080 spooky dreams, the ring lady who's not the ring lady 533 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,360 who's pretty, but you don't see her face. 534 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,640 (laughing) 535 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,480 - Okay. 536 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,320 - All that. 537 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,960 - But do we have to? 538 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,640 - Yes, we do. 539 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960 - So anonymous, this is your card. 540 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,520 Your card is the queen of wands. 541 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,760 - Okay. 542 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,120 I'm so nervous. 543 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,760 - So it's got two lions on it and a crow in some sunflowers. 544 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040 - I turned almost right to it. 545 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,320 - Ooh, I like it. 546 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200 - Okay, and it's in the upright? 547 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160 - In the upright, okay. 548 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,960 Our keywords are creativity, passion, prosperity, 549 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,240 fruitfulness and generosity. 550 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:10,320 Generosity, generosity, say. 551 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,040 Like the king, the queen of wands is often pictured 552 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,320 seated on a throne, wearing an elegant robe and a crown. 553 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,160 She's usually a beautiful mature woman 554 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,160 who epitomizes feminine authority, confidence, 555 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600 warmth and enthusiasm. 556 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,960 - Is she the queen should have turned high like that? 557 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560 - Maybe. 558 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,320 - We're gonna use that all the time, no matter what. 559 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,800 - That's ours now, thank you. 560 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,120 We're gonna merge, mate. 561 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,960 - Yeah. 562 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,320 - Oh my God. 563 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,160 Okay. 564 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,120 In a reading, the queen may signify an actual person 565 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,880 when she does it's someone who's active, vibrant and outgoing, 566 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,720 perhaps a woman with a creative nature. 567 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,680 upright, a fortunate card, the upright queen 568 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,560 gives you a thumbs up. 569 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000 I disagree. 570 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,680 If this card signifies a real person, 571 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840 she's a figure who commands respect. 572 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480 Whether she's in the boardroom or the home, 573 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,200 the boardroom or the bedroom. 574 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,360 Oh. 575 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,920 - Am I right? 576 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960 - This is creepy though, 'cause it was like, 577 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600 in someone's home. 578 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Yeah. 579 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,720 A wise advisor, she is also a loyal friend, 580 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,760 a loving partner, a trustworthy authority. 581 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,440 Maybe in your previous life. 582 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,880 She has a nurturing, colorful and generous nature. 583 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,040 She's confident in her abilities 584 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640 and encourages others to do their best. 585 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,840 - Huh, maybe this is like her sister. 586 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,680 Or their sister. - Yeah. 587 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920 - I don't know if it was a man or a woman writing this, 588 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640 but I wonder if it was their sister. 589 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,800 'Cause they did say they had a better relationship now 590 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840 for the past, was it year? 591 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,040 - Yeah. 592 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,880 That could be. 593 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,760 - Maybe it's the good side of the story 594 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600 is popping out through the cards. 595 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600 - That feels like maybe more on point. 596 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,960 Like the King, she may play a prominent role 597 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840 in a business or her community. 598 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,560 In a question about money, the Queen says, 599 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,240 "Do what you love, the money will follow." 600 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,240 You may receive money from a creative venture 601 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:35,680 or prosper through a partnership or other alliance. 602 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,400 If you asked about a job, 603 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,840 the upright Queen shows a period of fulfillment 604 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,720 when a project bears fruit and you're happy with the outcome. 605 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,600 This is also a good time to birth or expand a venture. 606 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,800 In a reading about a relationship, 607 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,720 she shows a passionate romance between loyal loving partners. 608 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,720 Maybe this is just a message. 609 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,080 - That's what I was just thinking as you were reading. 610 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,400 - Yeah. 611 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880 Okay, there's an extra excerpt. 612 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,200 - We didn't finish our sentence, 613 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000 though, we kind of just mind-melded there, 614 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000 but we think maybe it's a message for the person who wrote it 615 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920 and it's not actually about the story, is that what we were thinking? 616 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,480 - Yeah, I thought that, sorry, 617 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,800 I thought that was kind of implied. 618 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560 - I feel like we just like half-set it 619 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,320 and for anyone maybe who does it is an honor brainwaves. 620 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,600 - Yeah, well get on our brainwaves. 621 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,560 - Yeah, okay. 622 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,000 Thanks. 623 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,400 The Queen of Wands represents a vital, passionate 624 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000 and aggressive female, 625 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,560 "Whoa, grossly." 626 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120 Who wants to help other people through her efforts? 627 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,280 Okay, and then you had us and you lost us, 628 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,200 so I'm gonna guess. 629 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,400 - I don't know, remember I said maybe she was a helper, 630 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840 maybe she was just coming on a little too strong. 631 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,360 - Yeah, maybe. 632 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,680 Though she appears to be fighting those who cross her path, 633 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,680 she is a true champion of those she supports. 634 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,440 So does she support you? 635 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480 - I don't know. - I don't know. 636 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,560 - Well, did we just get our answer? 637 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,400 - And maybe. 638 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,240 - Answered? 639 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,920 - A little bit of a mixed message, potentially, 640 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,280 but, huh, I kinda like that. 641 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,400 - That's interesting. 642 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,880 - There's another one. 643 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,720 - Okay. 644 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,020 - The Queen of Wands bears similarities 645 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:21,720 to the Celtic goddess Bridget, 646 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,540 who rules both the hearth and the forge. 647 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:29,200 Often she's pictured stirring a fiery cauldron. 648 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600 - Woo! - Woo-hoo-hoo! 649 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600 - Symbolic of creativity and inspiration, 650 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,000 which is Link Bridget with self-expression, 651 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,420 Smithcraft, and Healing and Celebrate her subat, 652 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:48,280 known as Imbol on February 1st. 653 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,120 - Nice. 654 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120 I think you did pretty good with those pronunciations. 655 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,960 - Okay. 656 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480 - I listened to that witchy podcast. 657 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,800 What is it? 658 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,920 Goddess witch womb. 659 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,920 - Oh, yeah. - That one, 660 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,400 oh my god, they have so much information. 661 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,800 They've talked about her before. 662 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,800 - Love it. 663 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,040 - I feel like a shaggy dog. 664 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,800 I can't even see my eyes right now. 665 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,760 (laughs) 666 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,240 - Just like God. - Just like God. 667 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,040 - And for anyone who's not on Patreon, 668 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,360 we have a cauldron here today 669 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,940 and a bunch of witchy shit, spells cast here. 670 00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:19,160 We've got a magic ball. 671 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,080 Our cups are good witch, wicked witch. 672 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,160 Caitlin shirt says drink witches, drink up witches. 673 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,040 - Drink up witches? - Yeah. 674 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,000 - Okay, so this is also just hitting me now 675 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,600 as I actually look at the card. 676 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,280 This is like a dark, obviously it's a crow, 677 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,800 but it's like a dark specter looking over two lions. 678 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,240 - Two lions. 679 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,400 The siblings? 680 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,800 - That really blows my mind that we were wondering 681 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,800 if she was good or bad in the whole card seems to suggest. 682 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,880 - I mean, it could go either way. 683 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,880 - Yeah. 684 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,960 - Yeah. 685 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,320 That's wild. 686 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,320 - Yeah, and I didn't know what this whole thing was about 687 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560 too when I picked the crow, dark today. 688 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600 - That's interesting. 689 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080 - We didn't even know we were really gonna record this today, 690 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,520 so we had no idea what was gonna happen 691 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,760 'cause we never do. 692 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,880 - Interesting, yeah, 'cause the whole witch, wow. 693 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,720 Everything just falls right into place, don't it? 694 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,260 - Just does what it's supposed to. 695 00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,240 - This pretty much says the same thing, 696 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:28,080 but in a cute crow story, so I don't know if anyone wants 697 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240 to see it, I'll maybe post it to Patreon. 698 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,560 - If you don't care, then don't tell me, 699 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,000 and I won't post it. 700 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,480 I think that we should draw a card for Caitlin's story. 701 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,800 - Oh, yay. 702 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160 I guess. 703 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120 - So I'm feeling like I'm gonna shuffle it one more time 704 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560 and then have you draw a card. 705 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520 - Oh, I don't wanna pick it. 706 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,240 - I think you should, but don't be scared. 707 00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,640 Just take a minute and breathe. 708 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:58,560 - Breathing is where the air comes into your body 709 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,000 and then you push it back out. 710 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,840 - Yes. 711 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,600 - Feel your body with air. 712 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,080 (sniffing) 713 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,280 - You do know that I have literally been told 714 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400 that I first of all don't blink right, 715 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600 but second of all, don't breathe right, yeah. 716 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,600 This is, okay. 717 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,320 We're gonna go with this one. 718 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320 So I'm gonna set that there, 719 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200 'cause I wanna give us the option of, 720 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,680 okay, what'd you get? 721 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,520 - There you go. 722 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,360 I don't know. 723 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,200 - Oh, okay. 724 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,080 - That's the two of swords in reverse. 725 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,920 - Okay. 726 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,760 - In reverse. 727 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,600 - I'm sure that's good. 728 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,640 It's another two. 729 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,480 - It's that one. 730 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760 - You know the two in, two lions, two swords. 731 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760 - Yes. 732 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,480 - Which, I'm a lion, I don't know. 733 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400 - Maybe that's, maybe that's nothing. 734 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,320 - Not great imagery. 735 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,160 - Yeah. 736 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,320 - Of the blindfolded one in. 737 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,560 - That's great. 738 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,000 I love that one. 739 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,840 - Sorry. 740 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960 - No, that's cool. 741 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,240 Okay. 742 00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:58,960 Two of swords. 743 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,400 Keywords are combined resources, 744 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,240 courage, faith, friendship, conflict and balance. 745 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,520 In some tarot dags. 746 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,520 Yeah, I don't, you know, okay. 747 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:18,120 In some tarot dags, this card depicts a blindfolded woman 748 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,720 holding two swords crossed over her chest, 749 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,000 which maybe I'll just buy two swords. 750 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,360 Is that the takeaway? 751 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,520 - Yeah, no blindfold though. 752 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,720 - I think we're done here. 753 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,360 I think you've talked before about being machined 754 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,800 from walking that. 755 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,640 - Oh. 756 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,880 - Okay. 757 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,400 - Two's generally signify balance or conflict 758 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,080 as well as pairing. 759 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,960 I think of the two of swords as the blind faith card 760 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,120 because it can represent courage and making decisions 761 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,000 based on your own truth. 762 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040 And in some cases, spiritual guidance. 763 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,720 - Something telling you to get the fuck out. 764 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,280 - There's a conflict on the horizon. 765 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,120 - I don't know. 766 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440 This was in reverse, correct? 767 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,280 - Yes. 768 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,800 - Okay. 769 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,920 - Reverse the two of swords often indicates confusion 770 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,800 or conflict with yourself or someone else. 771 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,120 - Well, okay. 772 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,760 - Fair. 773 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,240 An imbalance may cause stress or frustration. 774 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,640 - An imbalance of drugs? 775 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,840 - Perhaps. 776 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000 Sometimes this card urges you to take action 777 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,680 rather than endlessly analyzing a situation. 778 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,160 That is so rude and I've never felt more triggered. 779 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,720 - That's very true though. 780 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,960 Like take action. 781 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,000 We're getting the mace. 782 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,000 You got the birdie out. 783 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,480 Like, yeah. 784 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,320 We're doing that. 785 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,720 You can't see ahead, 786 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,880 but you must take a leap of faith. 787 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,000 I mustn't. 788 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,280 I shan't. 789 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,920 In a reading about money, this card suggests 790 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080 worrying about a financial matter. 791 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,000 You don't know what to do and can't trust anyone to help you, 792 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,240 which is accurate. 793 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,400 - Accurate in the moment. 794 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,720 - Don't trust anyone. 795 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:02,560 - Yeah. 796 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,400 - Ever. 797 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,240 - Yeah. 798 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,640 Well, you didn't like run into the building either, 799 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,600 so that was like you were kind of on your own. 800 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,120 - I'm like, bye. 801 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120 - The reverse two can indicate choosing between 802 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,280 two unsatisfactory options. 803 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,240 A rock and a hard place. 804 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,240 Apparently, if the reading is about your job, 805 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:26,640 the reverse two represents confusion, indecision, 806 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,240 lack of information or conflicts regarding your work. 807 00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,120 Yeah. 808 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,240 It can also warn that colleagues aren't reliable 809 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,720 or trustworthy. 810 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:42,080 You need to look hard at something you don't want to see. 811 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,680 In a reading about love, 812 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,560 confusion or differences of opinion may cause stagnation 813 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,160 in a relationship. 814 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,560 Are you clashing swords? 815 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,840 - I feel like it's not about a love thing, 816 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,200 but I love that turn of face. 817 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480 Honesty and openness are important now. 818 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,240 The reverse two also represents imbalance. 819 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,000 One person may wield more power than the other. 820 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,840 - I am. 821 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,960 - Crazy person with nothing to lose. 822 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,720 - I thought we were still talking about love. 823 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,720 - Oh, okay. 824 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,040 - Look at power. 825 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,280 I think it's not about love. 826 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480 I'm not thinking about love in your story at all. 827 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960 - No, not at all. 828 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600 - I just was like, let's change the subject. 829 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,240 Did never have feelings or, okay. 830 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,000 - Yeah. - Are any extras? 831 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,320 - Extrasurves. 832 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,480 - Extrasurves. 833 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,480 - Maybe I should look at the rest. 834 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,480 - I don't know why, but I'm turning the page. 835 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200 And, oh, okay. 836 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,040 Why? 837 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,480 'Cause you found something? 838 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,720 Well, I didn't know that I would, 839 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,640 but yeah, I was like, oh, turn the page 840 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480 'cause there's no extra exerbs 841 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,520 and there actually is on the next page. 842 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,040 - Whoa. 843 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,280 Calm down, okay. 844 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,760 It's just a terror reading. 845 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,120 - Okay. 846 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,960 The soul is a diamond in the rough, 847 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,280 which must abide the blows inflicted by suffering 848 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,320 in order to shine in all its brilliance. 849 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,480 Cassie, do you wanna know what book this is from? 850 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,400 - Yes. 851 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,560 - Like water for chocolate. 852 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080 Oh, you don't like chocolate. 853 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,720 And I don't like feelings. 854 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,720 (laughing) 855 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,680 - You're like crying in your chocolate. 856 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,040 I feel like I need to read this. 857 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,440 I feel like if I had to eat chocolate, I would cry. 858 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,080 (laughing) 859 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,240 - Shocking chocolate down your throat. 860 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,120 (groaning) 861 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,720 - In the little crow book, it says, "Two of Swords, 862 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,080 the Blindfolded Crow balances herself on two blades, 863 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,120 on the blades of two Swords. 864 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,840 She calmly stays in place, 865 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,680 unable to see the edges or where to safely hop to next. 866 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,560 She is afraid of making a dangerous or painful mistake. 867 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,560 The two of Swords suggests you may find it difficult 868 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600 to make a significant decision 869 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,160 because you feel you aren't unable to see the full picture 870 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480 or that there is valuable information 871 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040 that is being withheld. 872 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,680 If you are feeling stuck, evaluate where the fear is coming from. 873 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,440 I think you know where the fear was coming from. 874 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,280 - Yeah. 875 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400 - So I mean, potentially through my windshield. 876 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,040 - And look for the steps and information you need 877 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,240 to proceed safely. 878 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,440 So start your car and get the fuck out. 879 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,160 - Yeah, GTFO. 880 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,560 - Pay attention to your surroundings. 881 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,040 Very important. 882 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,920 Lock your doors. 883 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120 When the two of Swords is reversed, 884 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,400 oh okay, the problem with indecision is heightened. 885 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,600 You are unable to find any clarity due to an overload 886 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640 of information, thus leaving you more confused 887 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,440 and unable to figure out what is most relevant, 888 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,200 which definitely it fucked with your brain. 889 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,440 - Yeah. 890 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,720 - Well, even just the point of like looking over 891 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,640 at that like front door and being like, 892 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,120 can I run back and set it? 893 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,960 - Yeah. 894 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,640 - No, no, no, no, I would choose. 895 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,800 - You had to choice pretty much. 896 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,240 That's interesting. 897 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120 - Yeah, it is interesting. 898 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,600 - Another successful, tarot read by two successful witches. 899 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,240 - Drink up, shall we? 900 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120 - I think I've had plenty. 901 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640 - I mean, you've barely had any at all, 902 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,560 but I'm a lightweight nowadays. 903 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,000 Well, what makes one of us? 904 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,360 We have a Patreon shout out. 905 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,760 - Woohoo, another one. 906 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240 - Yeah, it's another one. 907 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,440 - Does not bite the dust. 908 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,920 Not doing that. 909 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,920 - Never, no, but Jocelyn, thank you so much for joining us. 910 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,680 And you figured out the annual, 911 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320 the annual subscription on Patreon. 912 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040 - Oh, she committed to a whole year with us. 913 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,240 - A whole year. 914 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,800 - Oh girl, okay. 915 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,640 - We got you. 916 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,480 - Okay. 917 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,040 - It's gonna be fun. 918 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,000 Welcome to our Patreon, where you get a personalized 919 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,640 welcome card with a mini tarot reading inside. 920 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240 - Yeah. 921 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920 - And a shout out, like you just got. 922 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,080 - 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Mostly. 1019 01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,540 - And a lot of backstage shenanigans. 1020 01:03:01,540 --> 01:03:02,380 - Yeah. 1021 01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:03,220 - We get into it. 1022 01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:06,180 We post reels and tic-tac. 1023 01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:07,020 - Tic-tac? 1024 01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:07,860 - Yeah. 1025 01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:09,820 We do all that stuff. 1026 01:03:09,820 --> 01:03:12,340 - Our fun goings-on in the Pacific Northwest. 1027 01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:15,180 We like to visit places and post about them. 1028 01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:16,220 - I know. 1029 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:17,740 Should we tell them about the thing 1030 01:03:17,740 --> 01:03:18,980 that we're gonna do tonight? 1031 01:03:18,980 --> 01:03:19,820 - Oh, yeah. 1032 01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:21,980 - And to this, it will have already happened? 1033 01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:22,820 - Yeah. 1034 01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:25,540 So we mentioned earlier, we're going to Ashnikko. 1035 01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,420 And then it dawned on us. 1036 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,660 We're going to the Roseland, which we covered. 1037 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:32,500 Yeah. 1038 01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:34,740 So if you haven't listened to that episode 1039 01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:37,980 that we talked about the Roseland, what was it called? 1040 01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:39,980 - Go back in, listen, do it. 1041 01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:41,100 - Okay, you guys. 1042 01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:46,100 We just figured out 100 episodes ago, exactly. 1043 01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,260 Episode 35. 1044 01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:53,340 This is episode 135, that's so creepy. 1045 01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:59,340 Episode 35, we covered what was formerly known as 1046 01:03:59,340 --> 01:04:00,620 the Starry Night. 1047 01:04:00,620 --> 01:04:02,260 We are going there tonight. 1048 01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:04,660 It's now known as the Roseland. 1049 01:04:04,660 --> 01:04:08,220 The case that we covered was the murder of Tim Moreau. 1050 01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:12,060 So that episode is titled The Starry Night, 1051 01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,380 Murder of Tim Moreau. 1052 01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:15,700 - Ooh. 1053 01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:16,700 - I... 1054 01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:21,300 - Yeah, that is crazy. 1055 01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:22,460 - All of the chills. 1056 01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:24,700 All of the chills and all of the non-verbal 1057 01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:28,140 and weird mouth sounds that I do, you guys get it. 1058 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:29,380 - It was meant to be. 1059 01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:30,580 - Yeah. 1060 01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,860 Do you want to know when that episode came out? 1061 01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:33,900 - Yeah. 1062 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,740 It came out on Christmas Eve. 1063 01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:37,140 - Oh, that's right. 1064 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:38,300 - Yeah. 1065 01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:39,140 - That's right. 1066 01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:40,140 - Oh my God. 1067 01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:42,580 - That was our Christmas Eve special. 1068 01:04:42,580 --> 01:04:43,420 - You're welcome. 1069 01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:44,260 - Yeah. 1070 01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:46,900 Hey guys, it's Christmas Eve. 1071 01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:48,460 How about some murder? 1072 01:04:48,460 --> 01:04:49,460 - I don't know what it's like to be a ghost. 1073 01:04:49,460 --> 01:04:53,020 I do remember that people were seeing a ghost 1074 01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:56,780 like a strangling sound and oh. 1075 01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:58,100 Strangling. 1076 01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,260 No. 1077 01:04:59,260 --> 01:05:00,260 - I don't know. 1078 01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:01,820 Well, hopefully it'll be so packed tonight 1079 01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,780 like that we won't see any ghosts. 1080 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:04,940 - Yeah. 1081 01:05:04,940 --> 01:05:07,940 - Maybe Cassie will wander off down a dark hallway 1082 01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:09,700 and try to seek out a ghost. 1083 01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,380 - Okay. 1084 01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:12,220 All right. 1085 01:05:12,220 --> 01:05:14,140 Well, I'm not going anywhere alone. 1086 01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:14,980 - Yeah. 1087 01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:15,820 - Okay. 1088 01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:19,820 Anyways, you can find our website and our link tree 1089 01:05:19,820 --> 01:05:21,700 in the description of this episode 1090 01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:24,900 to check out all of the fun that we have to offer. 1091 01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:25,740 All of it. 1092 01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:29,460 Also, the website is linked to our link tree. 1093 01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:30,300 - Ooh. 1094 01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:31,460 - It's a lot of linking. 1095 01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:34,140 So many links, a link and that movie, 1096 01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:35,900 missing link is so fucking cute. 1097 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:39,660 Have a creepy ass day! 1098 01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:41,100 - See you next Tuesday! 1099 01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:47,380 - We hope hopefully not at the gas station parking lot. 1100 01:05:47,380 --> 01:05:49,180 - Oh gosh. 1101 01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:50,380 - Everyone be safe. 1102 01:05:50,380 --> 01:05:52,020 Please. 1103 01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:52,860 Please be safe. 1104 01:05:52,860 --> 01:05:53,780 Also anonymous. 1105 01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:57,580 Let us know if the card meant anything to you. 1106 01:05:57,580 --> 01:05:59,140 What do you think about it? 1107 01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:00,660 - I know I'm dying to know. 1108 01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:01,500 - I know. 1109 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,340 - I know. 1110 01:06:02,340 --> 01:06:06,460 - Also like anonymous anonymous, you know, 1111 01:06:06,460 --> 01:06:10,660 like the big anonymous, like what a, 1112 01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:13,460 we hope you guys are always cool with us. 1113 01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:17,020 - Yeah, yeah, 'cause they really mess people up. 1114 01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:19,100 - Yeah, I don't, we've talked about it before. 1115 01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,700 We don't wanna be on their bad side. 1116 01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:21,700 - Yeah. 1117 01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:22,540 I don't know. 1118 01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:23,780 It just feels like something worth mentioning 1119 01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:24,940 everyone's in a while. 1120 01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:27,820 Just, you know, for the periodic searches 1121 01:06:27,820 --> 01:06:29,300 of like who's talking shit. 1122 01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:30,500 We're not talking shit. 1123 01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:36,460 - I'm just so, I'm not here. 1124 01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:37,460 I'm not here. 1125 01:06:37,460 --> 01:06:40,380 I'm just like floating through time and space. 1126 01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:41,380 I don't know. 1127 01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:42,380 - I'm just here. 1128 01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:43,220 Who said that? 1129 01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,460 - You're not here and I'm just here. 1130 01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:46,460 - Yeah. 1131 01:06:46,460 --> 01:06:49,820 - All right, well, oh wait, bye. 1132 01:06:49,820 --> 01:06:51,020 - Bye, we should probably go. 1133 01:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,300 Yeah, we can't keep the camera on 1134 01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:54,540 'cause they might see you're un-mentionable. 1135 01:06:54,540 --> 01:07:00,060 We were gonna have Chris stay in the back 1136 01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:02,740 and fold laundry while we did this. 1137 01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:06,620 And Kaelin was like, no, someone might see my un-mentionables 1138 01:07:06,620 --> 01:07:07,620 (laughs) 1139 01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:10,540 'cause she is an old-timey bitch. 1140 01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:14,220 'Cause I'm the old-timeiest of bitches. 1141 01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:16,300 (laughs) 1142 01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,720 (soft music) 1143 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,140 (soft music) 1144 01:07:23,140 --> 01:07:50,980 [Music] 1145 01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:55,220 Oh my god are you okay? 1146 01:07:55,220 --> 01:07:59,060 You okay? 1147 01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:03,060 It just run to the bubbles. 1148 01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:04,060 The bubbles. 1149 01:08:04,060 --> 01:08:06,060 The bubbles what out to get you. 1150 01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:07,060 [Music] 1151 01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:08,060 Build, build getcha. 1152 01:08:08,060 --> 01:08:09,060 Build getcha every time. 1153 01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:10,060 She says sorry. 1154 01:08:10,060 --> 01:08:11,340 No you're right. 1155 01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:14,340 [Music] 1156 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,540 Your story is really getting to me. 1157 01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:17,540 [Music] 1158 01:08:17,540 --> 01:08:19,540 I mean I haven't even told you anything. 1159 01:08:19,540 --> 01:08:20,540 [Music] 1160 01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:22,620 It may really get to you. 1161 01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:27,380 I feel like it really bothered me. 1162 01:08:27,380 --> 01:08:29,780 Oh my god. 1163 01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:31,580 That doesn't happen to me like ever. 1164 01:08:31,580 --> 01:08:32,580 Yeah you like. 1165 01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:34,580 Oh no. 1166 01:08:34,580 --> 01:08:36,860 Like your eyes are watering. 1167 01:08:36,860 --> 01:08:37,860 Yeah. 1168 01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:38,860 No. 1169 01:08:38,860 --> 01:08:46,860 I feel like this story is like as haunted as my hat rack head feels today. 1170 01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:52,180 Like it's empty and spooky and no one really knows what's going on. 1171 01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:53,180 God. 1172 01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:54,180 And it tried to take my go. 1173 01:08:54,180 --> 01:08:55,180 Oh man. 1174 01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:58,500 Well it creeps me out because you know I was having that stuff with my neck where it 1175 01:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,500 was pulling. 1176 01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:00,500 I was being strangled. 1177 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:06,940 And then the other day I was listening to a podcast and she said that she'd been told 1178 01:09:06,940 --> 01:09:09,740 that she was going to die by choking. 1179 01:09:09,740 --> 01:09:13,260 And I was like freaking out because I was like what is with all the fucking choking and then 1180 01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:14,260 today I'm choking. 1181 01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:15,260 Oh my god. 1182 01:09:15,260 --> 01:09:17,260 You were choking the other day. 1183 01:09:17,260 --> 01:09:18,260 Yeah. 1184 01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:19,260 A lot of it. 1185 01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:20,260 Okay. 1186 01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:21,260 I don't like it. 1187 01:09:21,260 --> 01:09:22,260 I don't want to be choked. 1188 01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:23,260 No I don't like that. 1189 01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,260 I don't like that at all. 1190 01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:26,260 Okay. 1191 01:09:26,260 --> 01:09:27,260 I think I'm okay. 1192 01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:28,260 Okay.