Sept. 16, 2025
The Raines Transcript
NEW EPISODE TOMORROW! But here is this previous https://www.patreon.com/PNWHauntsandHomicides exclusive bonus, that we constantly reference. From episode 147 https://www.pnwhauntsandhomicides.com/clairvoyant-tarot-reader-cons-timber-tycoon/: Explore...
NEW EPISODE TOMORROW! But here is this previous Patreon exclusive bonus, that we constantly reference. From episode 147 Clairvoyant Tarot-reader Cons Timber Tycoon: Explore the saga of the Raines family, a shockingly sinister tale about the elaborate deception that led to the downfall of their Pacific Northwest timber empire.
I think we'll just let this one speak for itself. I really can't come up with a way to write up "show notes" for this one but this was hilarious and so much fun. Cassie's faces were priceless. Without further ado - feast your creepy little ear holes on this bizarre old timey time capsule. Don't ever let a Boomer convince you that the good old days were a simpler, more wholesome time.
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And talk about loggers and cork boots. From that time
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backwards through the thirties and twenties, this country here was
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not quite so civilized as it is now. You are
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not fucking ready for this. I'm ready, you guys.
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You'll never be ready. I'm holding my butt.
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Turn that thing off for a minute, and I'll tell
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you the rest of it to see if you want
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to record it. He says to the interviewer, what your
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voice sounds even more rich and creamy than normal? Rich
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and creamy, rich and creamy. Oh boy, all right, well
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I'm you know what, never mind, I was gonna say.
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I can't wait to hear whether the Patreon thinks that
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my voice sounds richer and creamier.
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But please don't tell me, Please don't tell me.
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Hi Cassie, Hi, Caitlin, Hi, creepy people, Hi Patreon, creepy people.
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Oh yeah, she did it, She did it right.
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Do you guys hear my voice shake because I'm waving
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so hard on my body.
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She's wig going.
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I always have to wave. I feel like it just
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sends good energy to you guys. Us I think so
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I felt it good. I mean, I'm in the same room.
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But you know, Okay, yeah, what are we doing? Do
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you remember when we talked about the clairvoyant tarot reader
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that was like three days ago. Yeah, it's pretty recently,
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so I was kind of hoping you'd say, yes.
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I do.
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That was like one of my favorite episodes now I know. Yeah,
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you were the second person to send him my way.
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Oh yeah, we talked all about it in the episode.
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Do you remember though? I told you that?
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And I wanted to warn the Patreon too, don't go
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rummaging through the paste bin to look through all of
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the source material yet, because I really wanted everyone to
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have this experience of me reading a portion of one
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of the transcripts to you.
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Yeah, I remember, okay.
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And I had a strong visual of all the creepy
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people digging through trash cans.
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It's a paste bin, not a trash bin.
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This has been been Yeah, okay, miss you sound like
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y'all London done.
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Waste bind pastebin. Oh very easy to I see what
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you did there.
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So this is actually an interview that was conducted by
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someone that I wasn't going to look that deep.
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Okay.
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It's on the Pacific University Library in their archives.
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Ok And this was typed up on a typewriter.
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Ooh cute.
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Yeah, and you can tell because of the fond and
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also because of the tiny little corrections that they hand
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penned in.
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Oh my god, cute, it's really cute.
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Yeah.
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We might have to post a picture of some of
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the funny little corrections that they put in.
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Okay.
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The following oral history interview is with Ralph W. Rains,
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a longtime resident of Washington County who has grown up
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around the lumber industry for his entire life. The entire
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interview is over three hours in length, in which time
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a great many topics are discussed or touched upon. And
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Cassie just got a look on her face that was like,
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holy shit, is she reading me a three hour interview?
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I hope. So I'm gonna close my eyes. I bang
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over my eyes and taken oap, you go for it.
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No, it's not the whole thing.
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And there's a there's a particular part that I really
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wanted to share with you.
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Okay. I love the oral interviews. Oh boy.
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The conversation generally follows a chronological order, beginning with his
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grandparents coming across the plains and eventually settling an Oregon.
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So this is literally like his origin story.
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Ooh, his Oregon origin story. Oh, I see what you
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did there? I liked it. Thanks, Yeah, Ralph's father WALDO
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where is where? That was the funniest thing ever.
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That was my favorite joke I've ever made.
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I mean, thankfully, I was there to be just completely
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oblivious to like the most obvious dad joke, and it
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was hilarious.
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And I just it just sailed right overhead.
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You know, perfect, perfect delivery. I know it was. It
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was remarkable. Oh my gosh.
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The story is spiced.
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Along the way with logging anecdotes, hilariously funny stories, and
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personal experiences that loggers men of the woods who are famous.
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For I love a man of the woods.
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The interview is a valuable resource tool in the respect
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that it covers the logging industry and its different aspects,
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from the small lumber mill to the more mechanized and
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efficient operations to the new field of tree farming, all
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told in a human personal way. The user is encouraged
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to listen to the tapes and read the transcript for
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maximum benefit and enjoyment.
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Oh did you listen and read? Uh?
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No, I didn't come across the recording. I'm sure I
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probably could have figured out a way to find it,
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but I didn't. The interview takes place on February twenty seventh,
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nineteen seventy eight, at mister Rains's home up in the
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mountains outside of the town of Cherry Grove.
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I know it's the whole sun. Is Cherry Grove still
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a town?
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I have no idea how we should find out?
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Me let me google map sit real quick.
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Cool?
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Is it Oregon?
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Yeah?
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Uh yes, I think so. It sounds familiar. If it's
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not then unincorporated community. Okay, yeah, I was gonna say,
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I think it's in like a rural part of like
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the Gaston area maybe, which already Gaston is even now
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still pretty rural.
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Yeah, Roald Jahreer, I have to do it every time.
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I can't.
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Look at that so cute kind of close to Forrest Grove,
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Well not that close, but it's like on this map
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right here Forrest Groves.
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Everything is really far from Forrest Grove, so like if
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you're like less than three hours away, it's like, oh, look, it's.
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Kind of close.
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Yeah, So, Ralph said, I receive Christmas cards and sometimes
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visits from fellows that worked for me in the past,
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and I'm proud of it.
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That means a lot to me. That's real value in
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my life.
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Oh, I know he's so sweet.
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I know that's Ralph's senior. When fellows come to work
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for me, the set of instructions was. I assumed it
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already when he'd come to work, he'd already been screened,
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and I knew he knew his job. I tell him that. Here,
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the name of the game is get logs. Get those lags.
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If that's the name of that, that's the name of Maggie. Now,
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if you don't think you can stand up and hold
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up with the rest of the crew, we don't cut
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the pay here. You'll just have to quit. It's get
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logs and get logs safely. If you can't do that,
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we don't like to make widows here.
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Oh seriously, we just talked about a lumberjack with a
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tree falling on him, got a treat, he got a
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tree falling on him. I'll try you fallen. That's not
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how you speak English, but whatever.
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Yeah, that's how some people do when they feel like it.
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Okay, we'll go with I did that on purpose.
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Yeah, it was folksy. We're not widow makers here. Get
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logs and get logs they did one summer. We averaged
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nineteen hundred board feet per man per day all summer long,
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which seems like a lot.
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I don't really have a I want to comparison right now.
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I know, Well, too bad, because that's not even the
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main point of this.
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Well.
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I like that he calls them fellows. I know, it's
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like cut.
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That was well over double the production of the average
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in the state that year, which was about nine hundred
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and thirty six board feet per man per day. So
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I mean, I guess that's kind of a measuring stick, right,
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Like that tells you nine hundred and thirty nine hundred
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and thirty six versus their nineteen hundred. Oh wow, okay, yeah,
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that's pretty more than double. See it took a little
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while for you, Yeah, to go in my brain. I
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find that with numbers, I like I need to see it. Yeah,
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a lot of times I'm just more visual.
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That, right, with visualizers. You writing it on a chalkboard. Yeah, yeah,
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that's hilarious. Yeah, our brains are the same.
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You were wearing glasses and everything.
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Aw oh wow, okay, well, oh my god.
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Okay, but we had a show. I want to tell you.
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You just wouldn't believe it, which is like just so
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fucking wholesome and folksy.
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I can hear it.
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Wouldn't believe it. Yeah, it's so cute.
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It's so cute. Grandpa, tell me more story.
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Yeah, okay, and then well you'll see and talk about
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loggers and cork boots. From that time backwards through the
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thirties and twenties, this country here was not quite so
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civilized as it is now.
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Oh my.
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Saturday night dances.
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The fellows would all get in from the woods, the
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Saturday night dances at Shady Side Dance Hall and out
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to Balm Grove, the wild affairs.
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Oh my goodness. Oh it was a pop in town. Yeah.
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If those went on today, the state police and the
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National Guard and every other thing would be out here,
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the FBI to round up the moonshiners, quell the rioting. Damn,
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you wouldn't believe it. I wouldn't I.
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Fully believe it. I want to go to this party.
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Finally, she's like, so you're telling me there's lumberjacks at
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a party. Lumberjackson, moonshine, that's all you need. We always
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used to speculate. I remember when I was a teenager.
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We always used to several of us would get together
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and say, where are we going tonight?
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Where are we going to have the biggest Donnie Brook tonight?
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What the Donnie Brook?
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I'm gonna I'm gonna actually look it up because I'm like,
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I kind of have like a cursory.
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Also, by teenagers, they mean they were twenty one, right
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or was it eighteen?
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Well he's well, he's talking about like it doesn't matter
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because like in some of this time period alcohol wasn't
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legal at all.
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Oh oh my goodness.
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That's why you're saying the moonshiners, because that's where moonshine
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comes from.
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Doyle. Yeah, why would why would the FBI be involved?
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Like?
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Well, I mean, I guess like it could be that wild.
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I don't know, so Donny Brook. A scene of uproar
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and disorder, a heated argument, which actually I'm glad I
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read that because just hold that for a second.
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Okay, wait, can you read it one more time? All right?
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A scene of uproar and disorder, a heated argument. Okay,
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was it going to be Balm Grove or was it
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going to be Shady Side? I remember it Shady Side.
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Why loggers a lot of times on Saturdays. Why they'd
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be in from the woods. Maybe they didn't even have
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their cork boots changed yet, but they always had to
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stop and wet their whistle at the tavern.
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What their whistle? What their whistle?
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Sometimes they would show up with their logging clothes on
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and maybe just their slippers, their slippers. They called them
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dancing slippers at all. You know, I'm just not well
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enough informed about the footwear of lumberjacks in the early
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nineteen hundreds, but I can look into it.
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I'm gonna need you to.
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I can't picture a lumberjack dancing and ugg slippers.
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It's exactly what I would picture with the fur like
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these ones right up here. Yeah, oh boy.
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If they didn't have their dancing slippers, why sometimes they
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were there in.
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Their corks cork boots. I don't with the cork boots.
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Yeah, you know, there's a lot of stuff in here
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that's real old timy man. I mean, I just think,
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