Sept. 22, 2023

Mapping out Halloween Spirit: Festive Pacific Northwest Displays

Mapping out Halloween Spirit: Festive Pacific Northwest Displays

Halloween enthusiasts, gather 'round! We're kicking off October early with a bonus episode! We chat with Diana and Jason, the dynamic duo behind https://www.pnwcl.com, to learn about their digital map that guides families to the best holiday displays...

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Halloween enthusiasts, gather 'round! We're kicking off October early with a bonus episode! We chat with Diana and Jason, the dynamic duo behind Pacific Northwest Christmas Lights (PNWCL), to learn about their digital map that guides families to the best holiday displays in the Pacific Northwest and beyond. They've been curating this collection for 11 years and are currently featuring 50 unique Halloween displays, with the expectation to reach 400 by season's end. Listen in to find out more about the hard work they put into vetting each submission and the joy they get from offering a COVID-friendly activity for families. The map's anticipated launch is October 1st! Learn how to get YOUR display accepted onto the PNWCL map, and how you can volunteer to get involved. This episode is sure to get you into the Halloween spirit!

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Pacific Northwest Christmas Lights, Halloween Displays, PNWCL, Digital Map, Unique, Holiday Displays, COVID-Friendly, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Pacific Northwest Display Owners, October 1st Launch, Submission Form, Vetting Displays, Traveling Northwest, Happy Haunting

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100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,760Last year Gina's, um,200:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,320Gina's theme was,300:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,600"Scooby-Doo."400:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,360She had all those "Scooby-Doo" characters,500:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,960but she had them as skeletons,600:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,840and then she had,700:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,400she had a custom built mystery machine.800:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,600There was a photo off.900:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,680You could actually get it and take pictures.1000:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840That is making her reappearance this year.1100:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,840That is so cool.1200:00:21,840 --> 00:00:39,440[Music]1300:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,200Hello creepy people.1400:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,400My name is Cassie,1500:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,200and this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,1600:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,120where me and my co-host Caitlyn1700:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,800usually chat about true crime,1800:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,680the paranormal,1900:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,880and all things creepy2000:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,800in the Pacific Northwest.2100:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,480She will not be joining me today,2200:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840but I have a very fun bonus for you guys.2300:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,960We're going to be talking about Halloween display maps2400:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,320in the Pacific Northwest in Beyond.2500:01:04,320 --> 00:01:05,760Hello, this is Jason.2600:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,120Hi, this is Diana.2700:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,120We are with PNWCL.2800:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160What's PNW stand for?2900:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,400Pacific Northwest.3000:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,600Silly person.3100:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,200We have PNW in our name too,3200:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,640and everyone's like, "What does that mean?"3300:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,160[Laughter]3400:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,080Pacific Northwest.3500:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,920So what is the CL stand for?3600:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,200Christmas lights.3700:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,400That's what we started with.3800:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,680Oh, okay.3900:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,040But now you're doing Halloween stuff.4000:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,080Is that correct?4100:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,080We do Christmas, Halloween, Easter.4200:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,320We've done St. Patrick's Day.4300:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,840We've done Veterans Day.4400:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,640Fourth of July.4500:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,360Fourth of July.4600:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,120Whatever people want to put up a display for,4700:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,960we'll do a map.4800:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,200We even did one year during COVID,4900:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,000a decorated porch parade for mardi gras.5000:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,160Oh my gosh, that is so fun.5100:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,120I missed that.5200:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,920Where was I?5300:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,480That one was mostly in Portland.5400:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,840I was dealing with the Portland mardi gras crew.5500:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000Great folks.5600:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,480We actually zoomed chat while I was driving off the McLeod heel fairy.5700:02:08,480 --> 00:02:08,960That was fun.5800:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,640Oh my goodness.5900:02:10,640 --> 00:02:11,200Remember that.6000:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,160That was interesting.6100:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,840So tell us a little bit more about this map,6200:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,520because I'm a very intrigued.6300:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,360Well, we've been mapping holiday displays now going on.6400:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,640This is our 11th year.6500:02:22,640 --> 00:02:25,280Eight of those we've done Halloween.6600:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,360So far this year, we have 50 unique Halloween displays6700:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,480so far on a non-published map.6800:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,640Last year, we had close to three or 400 at the end of the season.6900:02:40,640 --> 00:02:41,520Oh my goodness.7000:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,480That is a lot.7100:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,760Across Oregon, Washington, Idaho,7200:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,840British Columbia, and last year, we expanded included parts of Utah, Montana,7300:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160other parts of Montana, Denver,7400:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,600Nevada, Northern California.7500:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,600Yeah, it kind of blew up.7600:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,600Oh, this is so cool.7700:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,360Request of the display owners themselves, but why not?7800:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,680Yeah, I love that.7900:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,120So can anyone be on this map?8000:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800If they decide to be on the map, they can be on the map.8100:03:16,800 --> 00:03:23,120We prefer to take submissions from the owners themselves just for the sake of8200:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,040their approval and all that.8300:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,520Right.8400:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,920That makes sense.8500:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,480We have open to community submissions.8600:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,320When we get those, we're going to personally vet them before we actually publicly host them,8700:03:34,320 --> 00:03:40,560just because we have had some issues in the past where display was on the map and8800:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,240they didn't want to be and it was causing them undo issues.8900:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,880So you're very respectful of the display owners if they don't want to be on the map,9000:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,160they're not going to be on the map, but I do keep a record of them.9100:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,040I have a private map that I keep for my personal use.9200:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,560So what's the purpose of this map?9300:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,680What do people use it for?9400:03:59,680 --> 00:04:07,840To just for family fun, getting out, you know, doing things during COVID,9500:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,120it was a great thing to get people out of the house without having to necessarily be in a crowd of people,9600:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,160things like that.9700:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,920But for years and years, I'd be at a display, you know, that my friends were on or anything like that.9800:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,320One of the biggest things they'd always ask is, "Hey, do you know of any other cool displays in the9900:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,640area?"10000:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,000And they're really, after Steve Poole stopped doing the Parade of Lights on Como 4,10100:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,880for Christmas, there really wasn't a resource.10200:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,440We felt that we were going to be that community resource. It started with Washington and well,10300:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,360his kind of grown to be a uncontrollable beast.10400:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,440We love that uncontrollable beast.10500:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,080Yes, it should be barely controlled.10600:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,240Yeah, it's mostly been me and Diana running things.10700:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,120What we have had a, a couple of editors that have helped in the past,10800:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,640unfortunately, they have moved on and it's back to us doing10900:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,000three times the size of map that we had then with just the two of us.11000:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,880Oh my gosh, do you guys need volunteers or anything like that?11100:05:12,880 --> 00:05:19,040We always are looking for people that are willing to scout and report back.11200:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,520You know, if I've got displays that I have from last year that I don't have any information11300:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,480this year, yeah, we love, we love scouting, we love, you know, we love the community.11400:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,040I mean, we're not doing this for ourselves.11500:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,080We're doing this for the community.11600:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,480We're not out to make a buck by doing this.11700:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,280Yeah, right.11800:05:35,280 --> 00:05:36,720Because you guys don't make anything, right?11900:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,360It's free.12000:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,560It's free.12100:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,840We don't charge anything for it though in the last few years,12200:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,960we have been taking some sponsorships from some local businesses.12300:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,360Love that.12400:05:45,360 --> 00:05:52,000We love our costs because running a website and 40 to 60 hours of work for Christmas,12500:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,840on top of a 40 hour week job, the money's got to come somewhere.12600:05:57,840 --> 00:06:01,680I can't, and I'm not going to work 60 hours for free.12700:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080You know, you know, if I can help it.12800:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,320Oh, yeah, we totally get that here.12900:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,120This is just our passion project.13000:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,960We are, well, we didn't start off getting paid to do it.13100:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,200Now we're kind of starting to get ads and things.13200:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,320So it is nice to be able to fund your work that you love.13300:06:20,320 --> 00:06:27,840Yes, yes, and we're slowly trying to work our way into finding a way to make our community13400:06:27,840 --> 00:06:32,800project into an actual 501C of some level.13500:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,840What is that again?13600:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,480I don't.13700:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,440Charity.13800:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,400Okay, okay.13900:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,360Like a nonprofit.14000:06:37,360 --> 00:06:37,840So nonprofit.14100:06:37,840 --> 00:06:38,080Yeah.14200:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,240That is awesome.14300:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,160So we will include contact information if anyone listening is interested in volunteering,14400:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,720so they know how to get in touch with you.14500:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,040We can put that in our show notes for you.14600:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,800You'll also have like a submission form for people to submit their displays.14700:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,640We have a submission form on our website, pnwcl.com.14800:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,720And link is there for both Halloween and for Christmas.14900:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,760Awesome.15000:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,120And the map isn't live yet for Halloween, correct?15100:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,520Correct.15200:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,800The map will go live October 1st, even though I do have two or three displays that are already live.15300:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,320Oh my gosh.15400:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,440This is so exciting.15500:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,640I love spooky season.15600:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,080I'm wearing my, I'm just, I'm just here for the boos.15700:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,200Sure.15800:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,880We're wearing branded.15900:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,160Yes.16000:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840You got a rep, you know?16100:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,640Absolutely.16200:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,560Well, so have a little witch hat.16300:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,440Don't have my signs behind me with our QR code or anything?16400:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,240No, no.16500:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,040Oh, perfect.16600:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,840That'll make it easy if anyone's watching or Patreon.16700:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,080They can just scan the QR code behind you.16800:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,120What has your favorite display been?16900:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,680Every display has their own charm.17000:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880It's like trying to say what is your favorite child?17100:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,840You know you have one, but you don't really want to say it.17200:07:55,840 --> 00:08:02,400But for absolute insanity of display, just the display itself.17300:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,440Historically.17400:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,880Davis graveyard in Portland.17500:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440Yes, I have heard of that.17600:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,680That is awesome.17700:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,800That is very epic.17800:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,560It is, it is an absolute amazing, amazing display.17900:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,520Now for the fun changing theme every year,18000:08:19,520 --> 00:08:25,760display, I'm going to throw one of my good friends and display owners under the bus18100:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,080Gina laws who runs the spectacular Halloween house down in Covington.18200:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,800Where is Covington?18300:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,480Near Kent.18400:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,720Is that Washington?18500:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,680It is Washington.18600:08:37,680 --> 00:08:38,800Okay, Washington.18700:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,080Yeah, I'm from Oregon.18800:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,280So, Portland area.18900:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,760So, southern part of Seattle, but East.19000:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,440Yeah, a lot of spooky stuff up there.19100:08:47,440 --> 00:08:54,720Gina's been doing displays for both Halloween and Christmas going on 20 plus years.19200:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,360Oh, that is so cool.19300:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,960Do you guys do any displays?19400:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,160Minor decorations here and there, nothing major with everything else we got going on.19500:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,000We don't have time to manage a display.19600:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,880You're right.19700:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,160But last year Gina's, Gina's theme was Scooby-Doo.19800:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,320She had all those Scooby-Doo characters, but she had them as skeletons.19900:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,440And then she had a custom built mystery machine that was a photo op.20000:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,440You could actually get it and take pictures.20100:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,680That is making reappearances here.20200:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,120That is so cool.20300:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,360A couple of years back she had a big devil statue on a throne and the theme was Shout of the Devil.20400:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,880Nice.20500:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,640I love this.20600:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,920I am so happy.20700:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,680I'm going to take a look at the map this year and maybe go on a little tour.20800:09:41,680 --> 00:09:46,640And the best thing about the map other than a couple of displays,20900:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,720they are all family, friendly.21000:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,160Oh, well, okay.21100:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,680Maybe I won't just give it.21200:09:51,680 --> 00:09:55,360We try to keep it all ages.21300:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,360Once I have the intentional jump scares and other things like that,21400:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960I'm thinking of the small children that, in a parent's,21500:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,160they're looking at my map for a family resource.21600:10:06,160 --> 00:10:13,120So, not that I don't have some more PG-13 or adult ones on their occasionally at request,21700:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,200but I marked them differently than the other ones just so people are aware.21800:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,680Okay.21900:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,920Yeah, I was going to ask you have a mark, does like, scary not for children or?22000:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,520Yeah, I had a handful of those last year on my map.22100:10:25,520 --> 00:10:31,680One of my favorites actually down in the Portland area, he's, I think he's an actual Milwaukee22200:10:31,680 --> 00:10:36,640address. He does an animated light display and he does Halloween and a few others.22300:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,440It's chilling lights on Lark.22400:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,600He puts on a fun show.22500:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,840He's got the big, the big Skellies and other, other aspects there.22600:10:47,840 --> 00:10:54,000He puts on a fun Halloween show, a little bit of a spook, a lot of fun.22700:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360He just has a good old time with it.22800:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,480Are most of these kind of interactive where you can kind of go through the display?22900:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120Some are view from the street.23000:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,960There are a handful that are walk through.23100:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,640Then there's others that are actual light shows.23200:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,880Like you see on like, Great Christmas light fight.23300:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,720Were there any major to music?23400:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,920I love that.23500:11:15,920 --> 00:11:22,400That is like one of my favorite, one of those, you know, the tick-tock videos of the light displays.23600:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,760That's mainly where I've seen them.23700:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000I don't think I've actually seen one in real life.23800:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,880There is a ton in the Portland area.23900:11:28,880 --> 00:11:34,400I'm going to have to go check, but I know last year I had a really cool house in the Portland area24000:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,200where you drive by the house of the day.24100:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,720Can't see anything at night.24200:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,600He's got a projection map of all across this house.24300:11:42,560 --> 00:11:46,320When I saw that, I was literally blown away.24400:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,480I mean, I've seen projection mapping before,24500:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,960but I've not seen it done on a residential house, and that was amazing.24600:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,080I would love to see that. Is that on the map this year?24700:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,320I haven't verified him yet for this year, but I'm pretty sure he will be running.24800:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120Okay. I'll be looking for that one.24900:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,800That would be pretty reliable.25000:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,360Yeah. We have in the past partnered with a25100:12:08,640 --> 00:12:15,840Halloween specific group called the Northwest Haunters. He's been doing Halloween about a year.25200:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,920He started his page about a year after I started25300:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,120he and WCL. He's specifically Halloween and all that.25400:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,840There are differences in how we run things.25500:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,440He just maintains everything that's there and requires people to say,25600:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,840"Okay, if you change anything or update anything, let me know."25700:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,480Okay.25800:12:35,440 --> 00:12:42,080Me, I vet everything every year. It more work, but it guarantees when somebody goes to a display25900:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,200that it's there. Yeah. You don't want someone showing up to like an empty yard and me like,26000:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,080"Well, what the heck?"26100:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,080In there, done that.26200:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,920They're ghosts. You can't see them.26300:12:51,920 --> 00:13:00,480Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, it's a lot of extra work to develop a meat year, but I find it just26400:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,800it provides a better experience. Yeah. That is a ton of work. So that's very26500:13:04,800 --> 00:13:11,360understandable that you need volunteers and stuff. So, creepy people, listen up. If you need some extra26600:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,960volunteer work, you know where to go. And we'll take them from all of our map areas.26700:13:16,960 --> 00:13:23,200So, you obviously probably don't visit the ones that are out of state, but do you try to actually26800:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,680physically visit most of them? We try to visit as many as we can every year.26900:13:27,680 --> 00:13:33,680For Halloween, we usually don't travel too far. We might do a trip to Portland.27000:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,160And then we'll stay locally around the Seattle area. Christmas on the other hand, we go crazy.27100:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,120Oh, I bet.27200:13:41,120 --> 00:13:48,160Well, one year we literally drove from Seattle, scouted all of Vancouver, checked into our hotel,27300:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,840then drove to Albany. Oh my gosh. All in one day. And then back to the hotel in Portland.27400:13:53,840 --> 00:14:00,960Wow. That is not a day trip. But yeah, around Christmas, we're known to go as far south as like27500:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,560Medford, as far north as Northern Vancouver, British Columbia, as far east as27600:14:06,560 --> 00:14:16,080Cordelaine, Post Falls, Idaho. Yeah, we've covered two thirds of the mileage of our map27700:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,240at one point or another. Some years, we get to all three points last year because of the weather.27800:14:22,240 --> 00:14:28,320We couldn't do anything with Spokane or Eastern Oregon. But snow and ice and all that.27900:14:29,280 --> 00:14:35,120I had three Christmas displays that literally could not set up because of the weather.28000:14:35,120 --> 00:14:41,440Oh my gosh. Well, that sucks. Yeah, because when you started much earlier than typical,28100:14:41,440 --> 00:14:48,160meant to a much higher severity that year. And one of them, it was there going to be their swan song year.28200:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,160It was going to be their final year. But they're like, yep, nope. Sorry. We can't do this.28300:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,680Oh, did they do it again the next year or no? No, this would be the next year. No, they.28400:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,240Oh, I see. They have sent sold off the display to other display owners, which28500:15:02,240 --> 00:15:08,960that's one thing my community does is, you know, we, you know, we partner that we partner28600:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,760the display owners together as well, not just make a map. We have a group that has that's28700:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,200all of our display owners like 300 300 strong display owners across the Northwest. It's a community.28800:15:19,200 --> 00:15:25,040We built of them and they can network with each other, feed off each other, get ideas of each other,28900:15:25,040 --> 00:15:31,200buy, sell, whatever they need to do. Oh, that is awesome. Do you have like a Facebook page where you29000:15:31,200 --> 00:15:38,080connect everyone or. Yep. Yep. Yep. It is called Pacific Northwest display owners.29100:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,840It's a sub, it's a subgroup of the Pacific Northwest Christmas lights Facebook page.29200:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,800Do you ever have any crossover with like the Halloween and Christmas kind of like a nightmare29300:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,720before Christmas type five? Yes, I have multiple displays that have done nightmare before Christmas.29400:15:56,720 --> 00:16:04,320And some have actually done nightmare before Christmas for Christmas. I love that. That is29500:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,520that's what I do for Christmas. My tree and all my decorations it's nightmare before Christmas stuff.29600:16:09,520 --> 00:16:16,640So it's like starts October goes through Christmas. It's the easiest decorating. I even had one29700:16:16,640 --> 00:16:23,360one display one year. Do they're nightmare before Christmas for Easter for Easter? Oh, because they29800:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,760do have an Easter bunny in it. Yeah. So they they wouldn't put bunny ears on Jack and Sally and29900:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,600put some, you know, eggs and other things out. Yeah. They just they ran with it and made it hilarious.30000:16:35,600 --> 00:16:42,400I can't remember either, but it was years ago now. I love that. That's my kind of people for sure,30100:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,760because I feel like nightmare before Christmas in the beginning it shows all of the holidays, you30200:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,920know, little doors on the trees. So I think that movie can be used for any holiday. Absolutely.30300:16:53,920 --> 00:17:02,160Is there requirements for how big the display has to be to get accepted? I don't set any set30400:17:02,160 --> 00:17:10,800requirement on size. If I let's say someone submits on display and then I go to and see the display30500:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,720and it's one string of lights, I'm going to be like, yeah, no, sorry. And take you off the map. But no,30600:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,280if you if you put your if you put your heart and soul into it and you you feel it's worthy,30700:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,080I'm going to take your word at it and put it on the map. That's just what we do.30800:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,440Awesome. That kind of reminds me though of the Grinch decorations, where it's just a Grinch and30900:17:31,440 --> 00:17:37,120then one strand of lights because he took all the decorations. Yeah. We've had a few of those. We've had31000:17:37,120 --> 00:17:45,360we've had one of my favorites at least for Christmas, this house up in Canada, this is monstrous31100:17:45,360 --> 00:17:50,160display every inch in other house, every inch of the yard and all their bushes was all covered31200:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,720in lights and they've even slotted over into the neighbor's yards a little bit. But they've got all31300:17:54,720 --> 00:18:01,280there. But then across the street, just this one little light up hippo, a little sign saying,31400:18:01,280 --> 00:18:07,520I'm lost. Oh, that is so cute. Yeah. Across from the mega display and then just,31500:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,760it's a little hippo. I'm lost. Were they on the map too? Oh, yeah. That was31600:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,320there. They're on the Christmas map. They're called Rudolph and Friends. They're they're on31700:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,320amazing display. Older couple have been doing it for 30, 40 years now. They amazing people.31800:18:24,720 --> 00:18:32,560Oh, I love that. Well, on our show, we usually do kind of a tarot reading or I have an31900:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,280Oracle deck. Are you guys interested in me pulling a card for you at all? I don't know how you32000:18:37,280 --> 00:18:45,760feel about tarot. Yeah. I do have an Oracle deck. It's not it's totally different from tarot. It's32100:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,240just the cards all have their own meanings and they're all generally positive. So there's nothing32200:18:50,240 --> 00:18:57,120like there's not like one of those death cards in there. But it's really pretty. It's Halloween32300:18:57,120 --> 00:19:02,000themed. Kind of witchy and cute. I thought it would be perfect. So I'll show you. It's called32400:19:02,000 --> 00:19:09,680a moon Oracle deck. That is definitely pretty from the visual. Have you guys ever played with32500:19:09,680 --> 00:19:16,320any of these Oracle cards or not in the slightest? Okay. So we're going to pull a card for32600:19:18,080 --> 00:19:30,400the Halloween display map. Diana and Jason? Yes. Okay. Let's see what we got here.32700:19:30,400 --> 00:19:40,320Ooh, we got the enchanted card. Me look. It's kind of interesting because this is kind of like one of32800:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,520the least Halloween-y type of cards on there. It's like a little fairy lady with a cat.32900:19:46,720 --> 00:19:56,160Well, let's see what the definition says. Okay. Enchanted. Charmed mystery belief. It is your choice to33000:19:56,160 --> 00:20:02,320live an enchanted existence. Open the doors to mystery and magic in your life. Discover all that is33100:20:02,320 --> 00:20:10,240in store and waiting just for you like maybe a Halloween decoration. A life that is mysterious,33200:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,480playful and filled with hidden treasure is waiting for you to unearth it. That's so cool because you're33300:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,200talking about kind of like a map and it's talking about treasure, like a treasure map.33400:20:21,200 --> 00:20:28,480Keep your mind open to all that is possible. Your world will be filled with many surprises,33500:20:28,480 --> 00:20:38,240like jump scares. Sometimes it is helpful to reminisce and look back on your childhood years.33600:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,240Re-kendle your carefree natural feelings. Children seek out the extraordinary with inquisitive33700:20:44,240 --> 00:20:51,440imaginations. They believe in magic, fairies, unicorns and being able to fly just using their arms33800:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,240as wings. They are not frightened and they know these are good spirits who bring joy.33900:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,960And then the intention says seek out the mystical and magical feelings and life of enchantment.34000:21:02,960 --> 00:21:11,440That was so perfect. Like the childhood feelings and stuff that is all about like Christmas lights34100:21:11,440 --> 00:21:18,080and you were even talking about that. Child-friendly and always keep a family friendly but you know there's34200:21:18,080 --> 00:21:26,640those displays that have a lot of blood and gourd and we have them too but it's not our focus.34300:21:26,640 --> 00:21:32,480Yeah, but definitely when you go see something like that you're going to have this at least I do34400:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,960anyway because I love Halloween and decorations and stuff but you get like this child like34500:21:36,960 --> 00:21:46,720gettiness and excitement. Absolutely. We feed on the feeling that we get from people when we're at34600:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,440displays. So we're out visiting display and we feel people getting excited over the display and34700:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,840all that. And then if we hear that actually used our map to get there that just feeds our soul.34800:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,960I mean it doesn't get the better feeling than that.34900:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,520Do people take pictures and post them of all the displays or do you guys do pictures of them?35000:22:07,520 --> 00:22:16,720Yes and yes. One of our other subgroups is we have the PNW CL fan group which is a community group35100:22:16,720 --> 00:22:23,360where anybody can post up pictures or other things in there. It's all moderated so anything35200:22:23,360 --> 00:22:29,120that comes in we have to physically approve just because spam happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.35300:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,160People have people try to post to the main page all that gets denied flat out because I don't35400:22:36,160 --> 00:22:42,400it's a page not a group not a public group. That makes sense. But yes and we do post up35500:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,560hundreds if not thousands of pictures every year of displays we visited and all the galleries are35600:22:48,560 --> 00:22:54,480still there from last year. So you know there's plenty to see. Do you keep those up or do you delete them35700:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,880as a whole? After a couple of years I usually will archive them. I'll use you move them to an35800:23:00,880 --> 00:23:10,640archive folder. Otherwise I do maintain copies of them digitally in my inventory but not always35900:23:10,640 --> 00:23:16,560on the Facebook they're going back too far. But I usually keep two or three years with the photos up36000:23:16,560 --> 00:23:23,520there. Okay. Awesome. So you can kind of look back on past years and maybe get ideas and inspiration36100:23:23,520 --> 00:23:30,480of what to do maybe what not to do if it's already been done that's kind of cool. And you know there's36200:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,240there's nothing around with doing the same thing someone else has done. I mean36300:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,520last two years ago I had three nightmare before Christmas displays. They were almost36400:23:39,520 --> 00:23:45,920identical within 10 miles each other. Oh wow. But I mean you can never get too much nightmare before36500:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,960Christmas. Yeah. Well it's a call they all went to Walmart and got the same things. So36600:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,960is there anything else that you guys want to put out there that you want people to know?36700:23:56,960 --> 00:24:06,240Well here we can be found on the web on Facebook Twitter/x whatever you want to call it these days36800:24:06,240 --> 00:24:14,000we're on there not as active. Yeah. And um through Instagram and also threads.36900:24:14,000 --> 00:24:22,000Threads. What is threads? Threads is Facebook's version of Twitter. Okay. I'll make it easy for you.37000:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,040Just go to our website pnwcl.com and in the corner I have links to the Facebook, the Instagram37100:24:29,040 --> 00:24:36,480and the Twitter all right there. All the things. All the things. Awesome. What is so nice chatting37200:24:36,480 --> 00:24:43,520with you? Oh when does the map go live? October 1st. Okay. I feel like we talked about it but just37300:24:43,520 --> 00:24:50,800saw it just saw me make sure. Well that was mentioned at the end of the show too. Yeah. So October 1st37400:24:51,360 --> 00:24:58,320map goes live everyone check it out if you are interested in being featured on the map you can submit37500:24:58,320 --> 00:25:07,200your display. And if you want to just help out and scout just then this email which is also linked37600:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,640on the website with any displays you might find preferably as much information as possible.37700:25:12,640 --> 00:25:20,480Have a creepy day. Yeah. And as we always like to say on our page happy haunting. Yes happy haunting.37800:25:20,480 --> 00:25:28,480[Music]37900:25:28,480 --> 00:25:52,480[Music]38000:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,680I feel like a another question for you. Was it? This is why we edit.38100:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,880There's also a dog whining next to me. Hey Molly you need to be quiet.38200:26:06,880 --> 00:26:14,320Shh. Her mom left my co-host left me alone. How do she? I don't. Oh okay I remember.