Sept. 9, 2025

Haunted Dolls and the Labubu Curse

Haunted Dolls and the Labubu Curse

Guest Co-Host Alert! This week on PNW Haunts & Homicides, Caitlyn is joined by her husband Chris for a spine-tingling dive into haunted dolls—and not just any dolls, but the infamous Labubu phenomenon that blurs the line between pop culture, paranormal, and true crime. 

First, we share unsettling Reddit tales where haunted dolls seemed to trigger a cascade of terrifying events—from unplugged electronics and wasp swarms to phantom weeping that shook entire households. Could a doll really unleash chaos, or are we just primed to see patterns in the uncanny?

Then, we unravel the strange backstory of Labubu: a quirky, elf-like creation rooted in Nordic folklore and catapulted to global fame by Chinese toy giant Pop Mart—with a boost from none other than Lisa of BLACKPINK. What began as “ugly-cute” collectibles has morphed into viral superstition and counterfeit scams—and even sparked smuggling crackdowns and a bizarre brush with demon lore.

Along the way, we ask: Why do people project fear onto objects meant to bring joy? What happens when corporate marketing collides with paranormal rumors? And how can a children’s toy spark both midnight terror and costly crime waves? If you love eerie encounters, viral legends, and the darker side of consumer culture, this episode is for you. Grab your sage and salt, because these dolls aren’t playing around. 

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The Boo Boo dolls, despite what some might consider an

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off putting albeit harmless appearance, have become the subject of

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online stories and theories suggesting they are just playing creepy, haunted,

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or demonic, or otherwise evil.

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Of course they are, yeah, or they are Chinese spies.

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Ooh, actually that's put your tinfoil hats on.

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These narratives often portray the dolls as having a dark

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or evil side.

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Hi, Chris, Hi, Caitlin, Hi creepy people.

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Hello? Did I do it right?

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Yeah? Okay, excellent so far.

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So this is PNW Hansen Homicides, where we chat about

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true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky in the

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Pacific Northwest. The P and W if You're nasty that Yeah,

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Cassie's going to be so proud of me. If I

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ever forget to say P and W if You're nasty,

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she really gets after me.

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Why because she loves it?

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Oh okay, right, it is pretty great. Yeah, I can't

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forget that.

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No, it's critical stuff.

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I'm kind of nervous.

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No, I mean that it's it's very on brand.

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So, I mean I've been here once, yeah, and I've

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been invited again. Graciously. I'm very happy about that.

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Well your previous performance. I think the reviews were really excellent.

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So really yeah, yeah.

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Who reviewed me? Just the people or is this your

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guys reviews?

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I mean I would say all of the above, but yeah,

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I did have actually several people that reached out and

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either commented on you know, posts that we did about

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the episode, or that DMD or emailed directly and said.

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That was really cool, Like you have to have him back.

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Wow, Like, okay, why didn't you tell me about this?

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It's definitely so long.

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I definitely have.

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No I'm sure you did tell me. Yeah, and I

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you know, I don't want to get a bloated ahead

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about it.

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Yeah, yeah, just you know you're trying to stay humble.

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I get that exact. Yeah, So, uh, what are we

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doing today?

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I have a few stories to tell you.

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This is sort of a a little bit different type

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of episode, and part of it was designed to really

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get into Cassie's psyche, really throw her off. But I'm

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going to see if it maybe it'll work for for

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the two of us.

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Still, Oh, okay, so you're going to torture me a

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little bit?

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Oh, I don't know that I would say, torture. I

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don't feel like that's totally accurate, but yeah, we'll have.

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Some fun with it.

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Okay, you promised, Yeah I did.

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Okay, Well, let's get into some unsettling first hand accounts

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people have shared online.

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Wonderful.

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Yeah, I'm kind of stealing a little bit from Cassie's

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genre this time.

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Yeah, if she's upset about it, she's not here to

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defend herself, so.

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Yeah. Our first story comes from a Reddit user who

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swears their friends doll set off a chain of unsettling events.

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Spooky, spooky. Wait are you is this Cassie's episode or this.

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Is my episode? I told you, I'm stealing a little

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bit from her genre.

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I get it, I get it.

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I'm dipping a toe. I know it's confusing. My friend's

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doll is haunted. My friend posted from her perspective. And

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I were having a day out in town yesterday. We

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walked past a shop and she saw these dolls in

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the window. She was dying to get one, and I

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just kept going on about how scary they look and

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how ugly they are. Dolls are creepy, Dolls are creepy.

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That's listen, it's a long standing belief.

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dolls she has, all those porcelain ones. No, she just

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hasn't tucked away in the closet.

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I assumed that's why I don't go upstairs. I thought

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you guys were just trying to protect me.

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Take a peek in that closet and you'll scream.

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I think I'm good.

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Anyways, she bought one and we unboxed it at dinner.

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She got the one she wanted. We laughed about it

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and then just focused on our meal. Anyways, we get

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back to our house, middle of nowhere, surrounded by dense

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trees and forests, and go to her room. We were

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in the middle of Things I Hate About You when

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she suddenly gets the idea to decorate it. Which this

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story really makes me want to watch Ten Things I

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Hate About You again. Yeah, although if it's a precursor

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I mean, they put it in there, does it have

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I feel like it's a it's a valid question, right.

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It's very important to the story.

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Yeah, it's it's at least fair to ask, So she

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gives it false lashes, eyeliner, sparkly lips and cheeks, earcuffs,

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and a chain necklace.

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Okay, so they're they're really going ham on this doll.

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We just find it purely funny at this point and

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don't know what to do with the horrendous looking thing now,

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That's a choice.

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I know, we speak the same a little bit.

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go out to smoke and watch the sunset, bearing in

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mind we are home alone and left the house at

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eleven pm. We go into this field by the woods,

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it's next to our house. We smoke or whatever and

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start heading back to our house at about eleven forty five.

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Her dogs, two spaniels one whippet were with us and

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kind of had free roam around the field we were

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in and in the field she keeps her two horses in. Okay,

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so she's a horse girl. So I don't know, just

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you know, making a mental note of that.

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Sure, sure, yeap.

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Her youngest spaniel was running through the horse field chasing something.

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from afar it looked like it was. But then I

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heard a different bark, not like a dog's. It was

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actually kind of terrifying. That's when I first paused and thought,

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that's definitely not a rabbit. Anyways, got closer and it

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was a badger.

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Those things are scary. They're like very they're vicious.

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You're tough little critters.

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Lineage.

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I feel like Molly the instinct would still be there.

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She'd be you know, must have a blood of badger.

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lack of training, I feel like she may, she may struggle.

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I don't think I'm ready to test that out.

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It's in blood only, yeah, in practice.

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Yeah, I've never seen one before, but I hate these things.

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Her dog was chasing it, kind of attacking it, but

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it was running towards us until her dog chased it

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under a fence and into the woods. After a while

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of screaming for her dogs to come back. We were

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to hers as it was a quickest way. Her horse

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then tries to jump on her other dog and almost

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killed the thing. Okay, so we got a lot of

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really wild animal activity here.

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So by this point we were very shaken up, like

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this stuff never happens to us at all. Rather than

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going through the horse field, we climb into a different

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field and go around it. Her dogs then started rolling

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and pawing at their faces, so we assumed it was

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a nettle.

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Hm, a wasp's nest.

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Oh okay, a wasp landed on my friends. So I

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tried to swat it away, but it ended up going

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into her jumper.

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time we got back. We were both genuinely so freaked

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out on it. Like on the brink of tears, I

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would be hysterically sobbing. Yeah, thanks for backing me up.

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We get to her room, she uses her phone torch,

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and the fricking doll is just dangling and looking at us.

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we think nothing of it other than the fact that

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it still looks creepy as hell. We go to turn

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her TV on to finish the movie. But it's not working.

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It was unplugged at the wall, okay, which obviously she says,

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we never did that before we left.

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cable connecting it to the wall has been taken out.

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How Okay, her TV all, I mean, I feel like

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that's the insinuation already. But her TV is like airtight

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against the wall. You need long tweezers or something to

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take the cable out and put it back in. Oh god, Okay.

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So yeah, they're saying, like, literally, how is this physically possible?

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the whole time we were out. What was the only

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other thing here? I think you called it, she says,

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the doll?

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us did it. We remember vividly leaving everything on before

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we left. Bad stuff like this has never happened until

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she got that freaky little doll. I'm convinced they're demonic

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slash haunted. Okay, that's holy shit.

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Yikes. Oh, gosh, freaked out by your own story, well

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someone else's story.

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Yeah, you know how we feel about dolls, which makes

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it makes it very confusing that this is this is

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what I chose to do. I thought I would be

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sort of at least torturing Cassie along with me.

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I guess if that?

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All right?

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shares and equally unnerving experience after bringing a doll home

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and it's her friend. So this is the other friends perspective.

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I was like, thank goodness that, like, we can find

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both of their accounts, right, you know. So it all

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started yesterday when I was walking through my town and

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spotted dolls in a local shop. I decided to get

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one as a joke and see which one I would

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get just for the giggles. I opened the package with

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my friend while still in town and got the one

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I wanted, and we had a laugh, etc.

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No, real quickly, presumably do these two posters do they

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know that the other posted?

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I think maybe not when they like first posted, but

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then they probably you know, were like, oh yeah I

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posted it, so but yeah, I think that's interesting. I

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would I would be interested to go back and kind

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of look at the timestams and be like who posted first?

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Fast forward to later. We both come back to my

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house and I decided to decorate the doll and did

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she ever? This involves super gluing eyelashes, earrings, glitter lips,

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and dripping her out with chains.

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Oh my god, this is.

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Such a makeover.

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Yeah, well that is so gen z. Yeah that drip.

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A couple hours later, we decide to go out and smoke,

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so I hang this doll off my ceiling light to

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dry and we go outside for context. I live in

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the middle of the woods with a lot of fields around,

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so we go out into a field smoke, start walking back,

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and lo and behold, we see my dog chasing a

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badger right towards us. My dog is much faster than

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the badger. Bear in mind, so me and my friend

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scream and run away whilst I'm screaming at my dog

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because I don't want him to be mauled by a badger.

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Of course that's fair. We go into my field and

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then my horse tries to kill my other dog, like

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stomping and trying to bite her, etc. So we leave

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the field and walk down the side of the field

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next to it to get back to my house. We

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reach the end of the path about to jump the

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fence when two of my dogs stick their noses in

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the ground and start crying and wiping their faces on

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the ground. I think, oh, it's just some nettles, they'll

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be fine, But no wasp nest. A wasp proceeds to

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fly into my hair. I scream. It leaves flies into

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my jumper. I take my jumper off. We run inside.

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Both of us are shaking and close to tears at

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this point, but it's not over yet.

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We go to my room, sit down, turn the TV on. Nothing.

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I check it's unplugged at the wall.

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Why I don't.

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I don't like it. What's going on over there? Are

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you having an issue?

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No? No, I I thought I knew what nettles were.

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Oh were you trying to look at them?

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Right? And I did know what they were.

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Yeah.

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It's a type of plant, Yeah, yeah, with you know,

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spiky little.

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Edge they're they're kind of gnarly.

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Yeah yeah, And so I was just curious.

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Yeah, so she's checked the wall. It's unplugged.

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I don't like that. I have never done that once

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in the eight years that I have lived here. I

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plug it in, still not working. I check the power

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cable in the TV.

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It is unplugged. What she says, what?

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And this is a very hard to reach cable because

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I have to use tweezers to.

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Reach it and put it back in. But get this,

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we were home alone.

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Yes, fast forward. I give the doll to my brother.

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It sleeps in the hallway, et cetera. But we are

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now thinking of either burning it or performing a ritual

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on it. This was absolutely insane. I regret ever buying

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that creepy ass doll. Give it to someone you hate, yeah, right, like.

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Or or send it to one of like the creepy

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doll museums.

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Okay, yeah, wow what a night they had.

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I know. Okay, Well, now we're going to actually read

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some stories that come from elsewhere. They're going to be

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it's We've got some new characters over on our slash

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Scary Stories. One post recounts all haunting that seemed to

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change the mood of an entire household. Hey everyone, I

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wanted to share a creepy experience that happened recently at

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my uncle's house, and it's all linked to this viral

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doll trend. So here's what went down. My uncle has

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two kids, and a few weeks ago, my aunt had

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to travel abroad for an office tour. That left my

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uncle alone to manage the kids. As you can imagine,

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two little ones can be a handful. One day, after

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seeing all the hype about the doll online, the kids

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got super stubborn about wanting one. To avoid further tantrums,

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my uncle gave in and bought them a doll. Things

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were fine for a day.

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One day.

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Yeah.

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The night after my aunt returned from her trip, she

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heard something disturbing, a woman crying somewhere in the house.

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She checked every room, but there was no one and

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nothing unusual. She ignored it, thinking it might just be

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her imagination or jet lag, an imagination. I know, I'm like, girl,

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if you think that's your imagination like I feel, I

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don't know, maybe you need to talk to someone.

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She's just trying to rationalize it. I can respect that.

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Uh yeah, I can respect that. I don't understand it.

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Right, And as far as jet lag, I don't think

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that I've ever been that tired.

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Well, how are you.

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Ever going to fall asleep after you've heard a phantom woman?

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Crying in your house.

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Sometimes people just get that sleepy.

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I guess.

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You can fall asleep anywhere, so I'm probably I'm barking

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at the wrong.

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Tree earlier today, Yeah, and it's not. It's only three

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thirty right now.

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But then the next night, same thing. Late at night,

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she heard the sound of a woman softly weeping. Again,

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nothing was found. On the third night, it happened again.

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This time she woke up my uncle and told him everything.

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To her surprise, he said, you've been hearing this for

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three nights and didn't wake me before.

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I was just gonna say, yeah, I would tell you

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on the first time I heard it. Yeah, you hear that?

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Yeah? Can you imagine?

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Yeah?

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I guess, like if you're waking up.

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In the middle of the night, you know, maybe the

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courteous thing to do is like not wake up your

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partner if there's no immediate danger.

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Yeah, who cares.

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I would not be convinced I was not in immediate danger.

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I'd be waking yo.

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Way you have Yeah, you've done it before.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Well, we've had several instances where we both wake

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up because we've heard a noise, or like we've both

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woken up randomly and been like, why are we both

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suddenly awake at the very same time.

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I remember the times that it has happened. I don't

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remember what I heard. I just know something woke me up.

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Yeah, and then danger danger yeah yeah, oh and.

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Then I immediately investigate.

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He then paused and added, maybe it's that doll. I

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feel like that's kind that Yeah.

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I you know, it's interesting because I'm like, listen, I

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already have established for myself that dolls are up to

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no good. But I just didn't realize that so many

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of these people would be with me on this.

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Yeah.

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So I mean it does feel I feel a little

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bit vindicated.

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Sure. Yeah.

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Turns out he had come across some strange articles online

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saying that certain dolls are believed to be cursed or demonic.

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That same night, my uncle didn't take any chances. He

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got up, took the doll and threw it far away

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from the house. Good for him, Yeah, that's I mean,

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that's a dad. That's that is a dad, And uh,

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like you got to do that.

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That's fae for me.

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I would just you know, I would say, I'd be skeptical. Yeah,

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but what's a doll going to do? A doll doesn't.

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But he and I I agree with that move.

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He's just like, just get rid of it, let's get

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it out of here.

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Did that fix it?

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Yeah?

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I think based on the next sentence, I'm going with no. Okay,

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I'm going to go with no. I feel confident in

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the know. Here's where things get even weirder. For the

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past few days, the kids had been behaving oddly. They

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were super cranky, refused to go to school, even their

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favorite classes, and we're always upset for no reason. But

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the very next morning, after the doll was thrown away,

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it was like a cloud had lifted. The kids woke

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up smiling, full of energy, no mention of the doll

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at all. It was like they didn't even remember it.

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The whole vibe of the house change peaceful, cheerful, and light.

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We still don't know what exactly was going on, but

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one thing is clear. That doll wasn't just a toy.

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Anyone else experienced anything strange with these dolls? That, Yeah,

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that's what I'm saying. I'm like, okay, so like, what

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are these dolls that people like? Okay, I want to

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know what doll. I'm not buying any dolls, just to

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be clear, but what are these dolls?

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Because I want to like, stay far, far far away.

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No, let's good one, let's find out.

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It's funny you should say that. I think I might

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have a lead, So I don't know. Maybe we'll explore that.

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I was just joking. I know I don't want that

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in my I don't want that in my home.

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I know that's that's like house rules here.

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And then there are the quick real world encounters like

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this one from a fan who got an unexpected warning

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from a stranger. And this one is kind of odd.

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All of these are odd, but I think that this

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one is kind of like, what the hell it really?

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I had to go back and reread it. It's very short.

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Today I went to a store with my doll on

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my back, and as I was checking out, one of

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the workers came up to me and said, you know,

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those things are really cute, but if you knew what

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they stood for, you'd no longer want it, and then

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followed by telling me it was a demon.

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Really, yeah, it seems kind of intense.

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I already have so many questions, but go on.

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Please, okay, good. I've seen discourse on TikTok about dolls.

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Being demonic, but never thought people took that serious enough

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to approach strangers, Which is like, I don't think I

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take anything seriously enough to approach strangers opinions. Yeah, yeah,

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I just they go let the world know. Yeah, absolutely,

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I know Beach to Sandy wouldn't exist if they didn't.

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Just wanted to share because I thought it was weird

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and I was wondering if anyone else has had a

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similar experience.

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I have, not you have. I don't carry dolls on

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my backpack. Oh maybe I should, but now I've learned

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that they represent demons, so now I won't.

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Yeah, I feel like it's a it's a tough situation here.

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You may have pieced together by now that we're not

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talking about just any doll.

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Is that fair to say?

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Yeah? I mean this is not a child's.

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Okay, I mean arguably, I mean they're supposed to be okay.

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So you should have some links popping up here. Oh

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it's hard to find a good one that gives you lead.

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Shit, this is crazy?

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What what?

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Okay? So you sent me this link for laboo boo.

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I don't know what this is, but I see a

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photo of uh leabooboo. The monsters. Yeah, okay, I've never

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seen this up until yesterday. Really, up until yesterday, I

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saw this. You know where I saw this? Where I

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went to the Ducks game.

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Yeah, somebody had on their back, didn't they?

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No Puddles the mascot. Yeah, the Oregon Ducks mascot was

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dressed up as Labooboo.

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Shut the fuck up? Are you kidding me? I'm not

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you get pictures of it.

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I'm gonna have to look this up. When I saw him,

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I had no idea what it was. To this moment,

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I did not know what it was, and I'm gonna

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have to see if I have pictures of it. But

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he was dressed up as this, and it confused me.

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And it was like just for the first quarter, and

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then after the quarter was over he got back into

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his regular Puddles mascot. Yeah for him, but I didn't

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know what that was. I'm gonna see if I took

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any photos. But I just kind of chalked it up

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to I don't know, like Halloween's coming up or something

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I don't know. And then you send me this link

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and I see the photo and I'm like, oh my god,

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he was wearing that I never seen this primary.

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It was so upset because I was like, this whole episode,

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the basis of it was that I was gonna like

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totally throw Cassie off about how I'm talking about haunted

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dolls and.

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Oh my god, yeah, yeah, I gotta I got a

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video of it. Look at this. Okay, so I'm gonna pause.

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This was meant to be.

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This is crazy. Look that's him, dude, the Ducks mascot

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was dressed up to this thing. And I want to

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know what you have to say about this, because I

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know nothing about this. Here's the here's the back of it.

482
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.559
Oh my god, Okay, okay, So if you just showed

483
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.960
me the front, I would have said, okay, like they're

484
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:24.880
doing like kind of a cheap knockoff.

485
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.079
It is like fully supposed to be a lu boo boo.

486
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:30.599
Okay.

487
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.960
So I saw Toddles, the mascot from the Oregon Ducks

488
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.440
football team, dressed up as this. I didn't know what

489
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.400
it meant. This was yesterday, okay. So they were playing

490
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.480
the OSU cow Cowboys. This was September sixth. It is

491
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.720
now September seventh, and you're now talking about this. I

492
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.119
had no idea you were going to be talking about this.

493
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.599
I had no idea what it meant when I saw

494
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:54.119
the mascot.

495
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.200
Dr You didn't even have tickets for that game until

496
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:58.519
like what two days ago?

497
00:26:58.519 --> 00:26:59.519
I bought it on Friday.

498
00:26:59.680 --> 00:26:59.920
Yeah.

499
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.559
Yeah, and you couldn't have known that no Puddles was

500
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:05.480
going to be dressed up.

501
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.440
I mean, even in this moment, I have no idea

502
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.920
what this thing is. You're going to tell me more

503
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.079
about it, yeah, but I just saw the photo and

504
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.559
I was like, oh wow, I saw Puddles, the Oregon

505
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.319
mascot dressed up as a.

506
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.400
Freaking out.

507
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.680
That's crazy. Okay, So what is this thing?

508
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.079
Oh my god?

509
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:33.279
The lu Boo Boo phenomenon began innocently enough in twenty fifteen,

510
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.359
when Hong Kong born and Netherlands raised artist Kay Sing

511
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.599
Lung introduced the character as part of his story book

512
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.559
series The Monsters.

513
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:46.279
Ever heard of it?

514
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:47.519
I have known.

515
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:52.720
The series is deeply rooted in Nordic folklore and fairy tales.

516
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.319
Initially known only to a niche audience.

517
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:01.079
Lou Boo Boo's quirky, ugly cute aesthetic, a furry elf

518
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:07.559
like creature, each iteration flaunting nine serrated teeth and mischievous

519
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.799
grins was later catapulted into the spotlight by the Chinese

520
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:18.880
retailer PopMart. Their exaggerated expressions create a confusing, animalistic blend

521
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.920
of wholesomeness and ambishness.

522
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:22.640
I see that.

523
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.480
Yeah, they've kind of in a weird way.

524
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.240
And I'm certainly not the like, the first person to

525
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.880
draw this parallel, but they remind me of a.

526
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.359
Furbie a little bit. Are you looking at him?

527
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.240
Uh? I'm looking at it. I don't remember what a

528
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.839
furby is. That sounds familiar.

529
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.640
Okay, so you need to look up a ferbie really quick.

530
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:48.000
Oh boy, Okay, we're just going down one rabbit hole

531
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.960
after the next. Oh okay, I remember these No. I

532
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.000
hated these things.

533
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:54.319
I had one.

534
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:55.640
These are awful looking.

535
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.640
They're kind of scary looking.

536
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:58.880
I like let boo boo.

537
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.039
I don't like furb you like labuobo Okay.

538
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.799
I actually am kind of partial to lu booboo as

539
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:10.200
well as compared to a ferbie. I had a furbie,

540
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.640
and I will tell you that like those things, they

541
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:18.759
really they had kind of a similar reaction, like in

542
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:20.920
terms of like the public consciousness.

543
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.559
People were like they're evil, they're demonic.

544
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:28.240
Oh, okay, And I definitely had a late night experience

545
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.160
with it, just like starting talking in the middle of

546
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:31.839
the night.

547
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.200
And they're not supposed to talk.

548
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.960
Well, the furbies did talk, but it was like it

549
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.440
was totally unprovoked in the middle of the night. And

550
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.519
then even when I put it in a drawer, because

551
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.559
they say like, oh, you know, put it somewhere where

552
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.400
it's like dark, and then it knows it's nighttime and

553
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:51.000
go to sleep, it.

554
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:51.799
Just kept talking.

555
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:53.599
Nope.

556
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.880
So I think we.

557
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.599
Understand where some of Caitlin's trauma regarding dolls comes from.

558
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.400
They come in various forms, including figurines, plushies, and bag charms.

559
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.640
They even have like phone charms with the boo boo okay.

560
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.680
A significant aspect of their appeal is the blind box model.

561
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.119
Are you familiar No?

562
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:18.440
I do?

563
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:19.039
Okay.

564
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:24.400
So this is where consumers purchase sealed boxes without knowing

565
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.559
which specific character they'll get.

566
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.720
Oh sure, yeah, that's done for a lot of things, a.

567
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.240
Lot of things. It's wildly successful.

568
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.759
When we're in Disneyland, we're looking at a bunch of

569
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.960
those the yeah Mystery pin mystery.

570
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:45.400
So it adds an element of surprise and scarcity. That's

571
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:50.160
according to experts familiar with the psychology behind the brand's

572
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:55.960
wildly successful marketing strategy. So while the character's origins trace

573
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.440
back to Lung's illustrated book series The Monsters, it's the

574
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.519
Chinese toy company PopMart that's responsible for the rapid commercialization

575
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:11.799
and distribution of Le Boo Boo and related products. Even

576
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:16.039
NPR is talking about le Boo Boo these days.

577
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.319
And it's fun to say it really is La Booboo

578
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:20.119
La Booo.

579
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.519
But how the.

580
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.960
Hell have these creepy, cute Furby esque creatures suddenly become

581
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.480
a household name and they are.

582
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.799
Thishold well like it.

583
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.680
It's like a fifty to fifty in this household up

584
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.519
until today. Even an infinite marketing and advertising budget can't

585
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.839
fully ensure that any particular product will take off in

586
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.160
the way that La Boo Boos have. This is kind

587
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:54.720
of thing that every ad agency they want to bottle

588
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.640
it like this energy. In this case, the endorsement of

589
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.079
one pop culture sensation led to another. Lisa of the

590
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.680
K pop girl group Black Pink is largely credited with

591
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.599
their rise to meteoric popularity. Like so many of the

592
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.559
viral trends, that came before this all started. On Instagram,

593
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:21.039
Lisa first publicly shared her love of Laboo Boos in

594
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.839
April twenty twenty four. The reaction of fans was swift

595
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.240
and began to catapult the brand in the global market.

596
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.880
The Labooboos were really primarily popular in parts of I

597
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:39.640
believe like Southeast Asia, sure, and this took them to

598
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.279
a whole new level. Many have speculated, but no official

599
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.119
ties to a paid promotion of any kind have ever

600
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.880
been identified. But do I smell a brand colerb.

601
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.200
Right, I don't think they need it.

602
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:55.759
Well, here's the thing.

603
00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:00.000
In fact, Lisa has expressed interest in a possible collacs

604
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.079
operation with the Boo Boo, suggesting it would be a

605
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:10.680
lot of fun and could blow up the internet, which

606
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.039
is like the most K pop like thing to say.

607
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.799
I think, yeah, I kind of love it. But I mean,

608
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.680
think about this, this situation. It's like if imagine MJ

609
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.519
just rocked Nikes without ever collecting a dime.

610
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:32.160
Yeah, okay, right, so she's doing that basically, Yeah.

611
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.039
I mean she yes, And you're going to see because

612
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.200
we're going to talk about the scale at which these

613
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:39.480
things have just become.

614
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:40.519
It is.

615
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:42.359
It's mind boggling.

616
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.079
Yeah, she needs to get paid.

617
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.559
She needs to get paid. Pay Lisa.

618
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.799
I'm sure Lisa's getting paid, but to be honest, they

619
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:51.119
should pay her for this as well.

620
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.960
Okay, get you obey girl.

621
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.960
The incredible surge in demand for their products led to

622
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.839
Popmart's brick and mortar stores as well as their roboshops

623
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.599
quickly selling out. And we have a robo shop within

624
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:07.839
a handful of miles from us.

625
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.039
I happened to have checked.

626
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.800
What is a robo shop?

627
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.719
It's basically a vending machine. Okay, yeah, I had the

628
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.360
same question. I was like, this sounds like a vending machine,

629
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:19.719
and then I looked it up and I was like,

630
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:21.559
that's exactly what it is.

631
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.440
Gotcha, Yeah, we may need to take a field trip.

632
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:25.559
Could be.

633
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.039
In turn, the resale market went crazy and prices for

634
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.920
particularly desirable La Boo boos inflated to almost unimaginable levels.

635
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:42.880
Yet with fame came controversy. According to shen Yen Customs data,

636
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.800
more than four hundred PopMart toys were seized in April

637
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.679
and May of this year. Resellers have been trying to

638
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.360
smuggle them in all over China. Price gougers are able

639
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.119
to fetch a price of nearly twenty times the original cost.

640
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.800
Has been cracking down those scalpers. I know, honestly, I

641
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:09.400
think that is problematic, but it is. It's kind of laughable,

642
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.360
right because it's like it's all about a toy.

643
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.039
But you know, people get excited about.

644
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:20.039
These things and then unfortunately, like the resale market, there's

645
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.480
a lot of really problematic activity.

646
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.840
Yeah, that happens in so many things.

647
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:30.519
Yeah, I mean all kinds of memorabilia and collectibles.

648
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:31.000
So real.

649
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.199
This is far from the only controversial or criminal behavior

650
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.159
plaguing the brand. Stories about late night robberies have been

651
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.639
sprouting up stateside all over the country. La County, Saint Louis,

652
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.440
La Puente. No locality seems immune to the Laboo Boo

653
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:55.400
trend or the thievery targeting it. There was actually one

654
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.840
robbery that probably almost anybody who's already aware of the

655
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.920
Laboo Boo trend heard about, where thieves allegedly went into

656
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.880
a shop and they stole thirty thousand dollars worth of

657
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.199
La Boo boos because they had some very like desirable ones.

658
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.119
Wow, eight of them.

659
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.360
Yeah, exactly.

660
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.760
I know begs the question how many Laboo boos is that,

661
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.000
of course, anything worth stealing or smuggling is typically also

662
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:33.719
worth duping. The better business bureau and news organizations worn

663
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.079
of the risks of online purchases, as well as labooboo scams,

664
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:44.320
which is like the most fun sounding scam aside from

665
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.639
just generally looking off or cheap, there is one sure

666
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.679
fire way to determine whether you've got a true blue

667
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:57.039
Laboo Boo or a knockoff known as a lafufou.

668
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.599
Which is I don't like that as much, still fun,

669
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:01.760
not as much.

670
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.280
I was really curious to get your reaction on that,

671
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.840
because part of me almost likes the lafufu more. They're

672
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.880
both really fun to say, It's quintas the legitimate La

673
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.239
Boo Boo brand dolls have nineteeenth well, the lafufu is

674
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:18.639
said to typically.

675
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.199
Have ten if they just do nine.

676
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:21.960
Well, okay.

677
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.280
So the thing about it is that you get into

678
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:25.519
trademark issues.

679
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.159
Okay, So when.

680
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:34.199
Certain types of highly recognizable products, or you know, if

681
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.880
it has a specific like logo, and this happens a

682
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.480
lot with designer handbags, you can only match it so

683
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.559
closely because otherwise, you you know, you run the risk

684
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.960
of being sued by the actual brand.

685
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:53.400
I feel like you can still be sued though, yes.

686
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.280
I mean, I'm sure you could. I think they do

687
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.639
certain things to kind of be like, well, this is

688
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:04.119
clearly different because this is well established of you know,

689
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.039
the particular you know brand.

690
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.880
So ours this just a little bit different.

691
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.639
That's a whole another topic.

692
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.360
It really is, it really is, and and yes, my

693
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.320
sentiment is very much that coming up here. There are

694
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.199
other similar slight discrepancies in the overall appearance of the

695
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.960
dolls out there, but I'll leave the collectible slew thing

696
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.920
up to somebody who's interested enough to follow up on

697
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.320
their own time. So the number of teeth is a

698
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:40.480
good one. That's an easy verifiable thing. In general, they

699
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.440
just look not quite right. That's the feedback that I

700
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.920
got from so many sources. Yes exactly. I feel like,

701
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.360
you know, if Congress doesn't know how to define porn,

702
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.719
but they know it when they see it. Same thing

703
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:03.000
for La Boo Woo versus lafufu so bad they're good appeal.

704
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:09.360
Some Lafufu lovers appreciate the unintentional flaws and quirky appearances

705
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.119
of the fake dolls, finding them ugly cute or even comical,

706
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:20.079
according to Business Insider, challenging the notion of authenticity. For some,

707
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.920
buying and showcasing lafufus can be seen as a way

708
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.360
to push back against consumerism and the pressure to own expensive,

709
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:33.079
authentic items, which I can totally get that it's kind

710
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:39.039
of like anti establishment vibes. Joey Kong, a trends manager

711
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:44.400
at London based market research agency Mantel, said, like most fakes,

712
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.679
lafufouos reflect a combination of systemic market inequalities and genuine

713
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.800
human motivations, the desire to belong, to experience joy, and

714
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.360
to participate in the cultural moment, because that's what a

715
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:04.840
trend is. China has never been so determined to fix

716
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:11.000
IP in parentheses intellectual property thefts thanks to the booboos

717
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.079
contribution not just as a global best selling toy, but

718
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.199
as a soft power tool. A Chinese consumer trends analyst said,

719
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.079
defending the Boo Boo's IP is no longer just about

720
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:32.800
business interest but about national interest. Wow him, Yeah, so

721
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.880
a lot of that sounds a little bit more aligned

722
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.079
with true crime, right sure, yeah, Because none of that

723
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.679
piece of things was like super spooky.

724
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.679
That was all like price gouging and theft and.

725
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.760
Yeah, yeah, I thought we were just talking about toys here.

726
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:51.679
Yeah.

727
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.280
No, it's very intense. It always happens that way on

728
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.400
this show. Yeah, but did I just bait and switch?

729
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.159
After reading knew those scary stories at the top, Like

730
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.519
if you were a betting man, what would you say?

731
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.599
I know, not exactly.

732
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.000
It turns out they're all Reddit stories about la boo boos.

733
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.800
La Boo Boo dolls, despite what some might consider an

734
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.159
off putting albeit harmless appearance, have become the subject of

735
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.679
online stories and theories suggesting they are just playing creepy, haunted,

736
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.800
or demonic or otherwise evil.

737
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.000
Of course they are, yeah, or they are Chinese spies.

738
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.960
Ooh, actually that's put.

739
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.800
Your tinfoil hats on. Yeah.

740
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.599
These narratives often portray the dolls as having a dark

741
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:53.519
or evil side, despite their original design by casing Lung

742
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.920
being inspired by Nordic folklore.

743
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:02.719
And they're actually intended to be tarted. Seems doesn't it.

744
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.320
I mean they have kind of a mischievous little look

745
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:06.679
about them, but it's like.

746
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:08.960
I don't know, it's cute, it's fun.

747
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:09.840
Yeah.

748
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.960
Some stories suggest the dolls move on the room whisper,

749
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:21.719
or even exhibit other supernatural behaviors, and these eerie accounts

750
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.719
set the stage for the strange blend of pop culture

751
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:31.400
hype and supernatural rumors that follow. Some people have reported

752
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.760
generally feeling uneasy or experiencing a sense of dread around

753
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:40.400
the dolls, which I mean, yeah, that feels fair, leading

754
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.000
to speculation about their psychological impact, as well as honestly

755
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:50.119
like the weakest version of the Satanic panic that I

756
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.159
can recall. Yeah, just feels like, I don't know, is

757
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:58.000
there nothing else to be alarmed about in today's world?

758
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.360
This is why you're picking this is.

759
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.079
This is the hill you'd like to die on.

760
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.960
I guess, okay, Bobby, And it doesn't just end at

761
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.920
Satanic panic, because this is why we can't have nice things.

762
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:20.239
A viral social media theory began linking ll Booboo to Pazuzu,

763
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:26.880
the ancient Mesopotamian demon god made famous by the cult

764
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:31.800
classic film released in nineteen seventy three, The Exorcist. The

765
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.760
comparison hinged on a few visual similarities that I can't find,

766
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:41.880
and was amplified by users sharing ominous posts, including a

767
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:47.920
clip from The Simpsons featuring Pazuzu. Despite the dramatic narrative,

768
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:53.599
experts and fact checkers have thoroughly debunked the theory Lo

769
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:01.840
Booboo was born from childhood nostalgia and folklore, not dark mythology. Also,

770
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:08.239
let's not forget Pazuzu was itself, at least in part

771
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:14.239
of fictional character created by the author of The Exorcist,

772
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:21.239
William Peter Blattie. Y'all need to touch some grass, although

773
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.159
I could make an argument that maybe they've already touched

774
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:32.760
some grass, you know, like which, Personally, I don't think

775
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.760
La booboos look like the pictures that I found of

776
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.280
Pazuzu in any way.

777
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.159
Like you said, they both have faces.

778
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.679
Yeah, the only thing arguably more scary than corporate greed

779
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.320
laid bare or even the paranormal is maybe racism.

780
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:52.760
Go on.

781
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.960
I was counting on that being a little bit both

782
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:03.519
confusing and intriguing. Take the UK based social media influencer

783
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:07.079
who was racking up the views for her increasingly rare,

784
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:15.920
unusual and expensive La Boo boos and her homespun Ksi.

785
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.559
La Boo boo Ksi is a British YouTuber, rapper.

786
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:21.719
And professional boxer.

787
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:22.760
I've heard of him.

788
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.360
Yeah you have have you seen him?

789
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:25.079
Yeah?

790
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.480
All right, so you know where this is going maybe.

791
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.920
Kinna, no no idea.

792
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.639
Honestly, even if even if you have some context, your

793
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.519
brain's not going to go there, I promise. He is

794
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.119
widely known as JJ and is also a co founder

795
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:47.360
of the Sidemen, a group of popular YouTubers. He's even

796
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.760
a successful entrepreneur, co owning the energy drink company Prime

797
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.599
Hydration with Logan Paul. We'll just sidestep the co owner's

798
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:02.719
questionable persona and say good for KSI for diversifying his portfolio.

799
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.360
And career prospects.

800
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:08.920
The backlash and public outcry about the wildly racially insensitive

801
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.159
modifications that she made to her doll led to her

802
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.239
removing the video she had posted about it, but the

803
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.679
video was saved before she managed to wipe the instance

804
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.679
of blackface from the interwebs.

805
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.840
Oh boy, I just can't.

806
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.119
As I was writing up my notes over several days,

807
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.800
KSI finally responded to the whole thing because there were

808
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.000
a lot of people saying, like, well, how does he

809
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.880
feel about it? Does he feel like it's racist? And

810
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.800
I feel like blackface is kind of racist. Even if

811
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:48.000
he doesn't necessarily take a ton of offense. Sure, it's

812
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.800
just probably not something we should do. And according to

813
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.440
a short clip of the TikTok he posted in reply,

814
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.159
his major complaint was that on the doll his forehead

815
00:46:59.239 --> 00:46:59.920
was so big.

816
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:03.039
Nobody likes that.

817
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:04.880
Nobody likes that.

818
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:11.320
So he's responded in good humor. That's only to his credit.

819
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:15.519
I don't think that's anything in her defense, because it is, like,

820
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:21.440
it's pretty gross. Collectively, these controversies give us a glimpse

821
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:26.480
into the dark side of any modern collectible grace. How design, asthetic,

822
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:32.639
internet culture, safety or other regulatory oversight gaps, and speculative

823
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:41.039
market dynamics can converge into fear, frenzy, and even crime. Yet, paradoxically,

824
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:46.679
even these shadows contribute to la booboos mythos. The toys

825
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.920
blend of ugly cute charm, blind box thrill, celebrity endorsements

826
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:56.920
and fringe rumors only intensified its status not as a

827
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.679
toy born of darkness, but as a mirror of our

828
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:04.239
own fascination with the uncanny and the unknown. Mm hmm,

829
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.840
well put, yeah, I know, it's such an interesting thing.

830
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.400
I feel like there are so many trends that kind

831
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.920
of it's like it really it kind of makes you think,

832
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:21.320
you're like, like, it's not that deep, but it shouldn't be.

833
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.199
But man, I mean, you involve people all over the

834
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:28.719
world and you're going to get all different kinds of perspectives,

835
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:33.480
and any opportunity to make a book is really you know,

836
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:38.079
there's opportunities there that people are going to take advantage.

837
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:42.320
Yeah. Yeah, popularity, boredom and money.

838
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.400
Yeah yeah, it's a winning combination.

839
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.360
It seems to be here, well, at least.

840
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:55.119
For PopMart Well, Christopher, should we tell the people what

841
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:56.679
we've done?

842
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.119
Yes, let's do it. We went to a place, we

843
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:02.039
took a field trip.

844
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.559
Yeah we did. Okay, so aside from a little bit.

845
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:15.039
Of uh TV watching, we took a little break. We

846
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.840
went on a field trip and we had a meal

847
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:25.719
mm hmm. But we also came back with a pirate coach.

848
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:32.440
Yeah possibly. Okay, I'm gonna have you shuffle.

849
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:34.960
Like actually shuffle or just cut it.

850
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:36.679
You can do whatever you want.

851
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.840
I'm just gonna cut it. I'm lazy. I took another nap.

852
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:49.119
Did take another nap, okay, all right, and we are

853
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.119
down two cameras.

854
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.840
But you know, we're good for it. Okay.

855
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.800
So I'm going to do kind of what I classically do.

856
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.239
I'll just spread and you tell me if there's like

857
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:07.360
one end of the deck or kind of a specific

858
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.079
card that you feel like is calling us. What do

859
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:11.480
you think?

860
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:16.519
Hmm? Wait, you just put your finger across it and

861
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.039
I'll tell you when, well, when that one?

862
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:25.679
This one okay, on the left hand side. Oh, okay,

863
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:31.199
the ace of cups. Oh, she's pretty.

864
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.039
I don't know what that means.

865
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:34.559
Okay, Well, I'm gonna tell you.

866
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.159
Good I need.

867
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.400
Thank goodness, I'm here right, thank goodness, I'm here, all right.

868
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.639
So we drew the ace of cups in the upward position,

869
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:53.519
the upright, I should say. Keywords are new love, beginning,

870
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.360
a creative activity, and joy.

871
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:58.440
Well look at that.

872
00:50:58.880 --> 00:50:59.639
Look at that?

873
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.239
A single large chalice appears on the ace of cups.

874
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.239
Sometimes water flows out of it fountain like, or the

875
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.480
cup sits in water. In the rider Waight Smith deck,

876
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:16.840
a hand emerging from a cloud offers the cup as

877
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.800
a gift to you. This represents a gift of love,

878
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.920
either of a personal or divine nature. This ace reminds

879
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.960
us of the Holy Grail. The most famous Chalice of

880
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.639
All which some people believe now lies in the chalice

881
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.599
well in Glastonbury, England. All right, so I'm going to

882
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.639
read you the main interpretation, and then there is.

883
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.519
An extra excerpt, so wonderful.

884
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:51.159
The upright ace denotes a burst of joy, the kind

885
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:55.679
that comes with falling in love. Often, its appearance heralds

886
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.000
a new romance, but it can also represent the start

887
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.440
of a creative project about which you feel happy.

888
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.840
Are we getting into the la boo boo business.

889
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:08.800
Us? We may be.

890
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.159
I feel like I don't know what that means, but

891
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:17.000
maybe we are. I'm scared, yeah, as you should be.

892
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.880
When this beautiful card shows up, it indicates you're on

893
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:26.840
an emotional high and enjoying life. Sometimes it indicates the

894
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.880
birth of a child or idea.

895
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.920
Mm hmm, okay, all right.

896
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.159
In a reading about money, the ace suggests the beginning

897
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.719
of a creative endeavor that promises to be profitable.

898
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.079
Well, I've like that.

899
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.639
Too, I'm with you. Nurture it carefully and the seeds

900
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.599
will bear fruit. If the reading is about your work,

901
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.000
you may be starting a new job and feel enthusiastic

902
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.000
about it. Perhaps this position will allow you to express

903
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.639
your creativity or the bill a dream, even though it

904
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.280
might take some time. In a reading about love, the

905
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:10.880
ace symbolizes the first stages of a romantic relationship. Nurture

906
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.960
it so your love will blossom. Sometimes it represents awakening

907
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:21.440
to divine love. Wow, yeah, okay, and then our extra

908
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:26.400
excerpt is a wicked blessing. Sharing a beverage and a

909
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:32.079
chalice is a popular practice in Wickan rituals. Sometimes the

910
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.639
chalice is offered with the blessing may you never thirst.

911
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.239
Because the chalice is passed from one person to another,

912
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.440
it may feature a long stem that makes it easier

913
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:48.800
to handle. Okay, interesting, all right, and then I guess

914
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:50.280
we break into our package.

915
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:56.000
Now SEFA has anything to do with any of that.

916
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:00.400
Okay, So I didn't plan to do this for theisode,

917
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.840
but I'm going to be honest.

918
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:03.119
Chris broke me down.

919
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:04.199
I did.

920
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:09.880
Yeah, Okay, Okay, so.

921
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:12.480
Big into energy.

922
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.159
Yeah, A la boo boo, a labooboo.

923
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.400
We found one. There were multiple ones.

924
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:23.519
Honestly, Yeah, if money were no object, I think probably

925
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.440
we would have acquired multiple la boo boos because.

926
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.519
I kind of feel like I want to know what

927
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.719
all of the fuss is about it wasn't cheap. No,

928
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:34.480
they're not giving them away.

929
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:40.639
Uh. I believe that it was more than retail. There's

930
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.119
some debate about that.

931
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.320
Yeah.

932
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:48.400
Well so Chris actually found on Facebook marketplace a lot

933
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:52.679
of the Boo Boos being advertised at or below the

934
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.840
price that PopMart offers them at.

935
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:58.719
Caitlin thinks they're cheap or they're fake.

936
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:03.960
Yes, I think they are. In fact, yeah, they could be.

937
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:09.280
Yeah, so you've already cracked it open just a t course.

938
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.800
Let's explain here. This is a mystery pack, right, we

939
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:13.800
don't know what we're getting.

940
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:15.960
Yeah, they really all are, all of them?

941
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.159
Yeah, yeah, I'm not aware of any that you can

942
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:23.400
buy from a legitimate dealer where you can know.

943
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:23.840
What they are.

944
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.159
So on the side, it shows what we could get, right,

945
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:30.239
what what are the options there?

946
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:37.360
So our options are love, hope, serenity, luck, happiness, loyalty,

947
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.280
and then there's a secret option.

948
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:43.719
So we'll see.

949
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:49.119
So we're destroying the value here, I imagine by opening it.

950
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:54.719
It's obviously, like any collectible item, more valuable by keeping

951
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:56.880
it sealed, unopened, brand new.

952
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.599
I think in terms of resale, this is a little

953
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:05.360
bit different than some of the other collectibles like beanie babies,

954
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:09.960
just because ultimately the value could be higher depending on

955
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.760
what you have in the box. Until you open it,

956
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.440
you kind of don't really know if this is just

957
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.239
sort of a run of the mill or if it's,

958
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.159
you know, one of the secret ones.

959
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.280
I just want to know what we got.

960
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:29.239
Okay, So our chances are one in six of receiving

961
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:33.679
one of the regular edition. We have one in seventy

962
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:40.000
two chance of receiving the secret So all right, it's

963
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:40.960
the moment of truth.

964
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.199
Open that next to the mic. Oh that's a good opening.

965
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:59.559
Oh that feels good. It's got real good ASMR.

966
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:04.599
I was just gonna say, I didn't know we're doing

967
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.079
an ASMR pod.

968
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.039
Now, Okay, my.

969
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:16.960
Gosh, So just for reference, do not eat it is

970
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.480
the uh I want to eat it.

971
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.960
He's never wanted anything more.

972
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:25.559
Don't tell me what to do.

973
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.880
I'm thinking. I'm thinking that's the card that tells us

974
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.400
what it is. It's so much suspense.

975
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.840
Okay, Yeah, the box had a bag, and now we

976
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.679
have to open the bag. The bag is open.

977
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:41.519
It looks really cute.

978
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:46.960
Oh oh, he's got sort of a tie divebe that's like.

979
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.760
A pink and orange little la booboo.

980
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.199
Look at his eyes. Okaye, I'm going to pass this

981
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.679
to you. He looks his eyes are sparkly.

982
00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:59.159
Wow, that's that's pretty cool.

983
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.119
Yeah, he's cute.

984
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:05.760
It feels like a orange creamsicle type thing.

985
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:06.599
You know what.

986
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:12.519
It makes me think of Rainbow Suirbert. Yes, that's one

987
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:13.320
of my favorites.

988
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:15.840
Okay, So who is this guy?

989
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:21.039
So this is this is loyalty.

990
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:26.559
Loyalty Okay, yeah, yeah, pretty cute, pretty cute. I like it.

991
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.920
That feels like a good omen for the newly married couple,

992
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:36.239
doesn't it. We just celebrated our one year anniversary with

993
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.440
a loyalty la boo boo.

994
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:45.000
Yeah it's cute. Oh, you know what. Its ears are

995
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.360
different colors. He's very soft.

996
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.679
Okay, just counting his teeth like any good dental assistant would,

997
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:53.559
just just to be sure.

998
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:57.239
Yeah, it feels like good quality. That is not a fake.

999
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.519
Yeah okay, well we didn't get the secret one. Yeah

1000
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:02.800
that's okay.

1001
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.880
What are you going to do? I guess by seventy.

1002
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.760
It doesn't really feel like it has anything to do

1003
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:15.840
with the taro we drew though, maybe just the act

1004
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:16.960
of getting this thing.

1005
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.480
And yeah, I feel like, it's kind of an interesting one.

1006
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:28.199
To have gotten with the subject matter, right, because loyalty.

1007
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:32.079
It's like, okay, first of all, don't steal, don't maybe

1008
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:33.000
make dupes.

1009
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.159
Uh well, there's a lot of brand loyalty into this

1010
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:37.639
little toy.

1011
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.119
I'm just saying, and I'm starting to understand why I'm

1012
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:46.239
already becoming emotionally attached to it. It's soft, it has cute,

1013
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:51.320
little sparkly eyes. I mean, this is way cheaper than

1014
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:51.880
a puppy.

1015
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:59.039
Yeah, and it's not alive or I don't know, I

1016
00:59:59.079 --> 00:59:59.559
don't know.

1017
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.719
We've got some Reddit stories that might bake to differ.

1018
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.559
I'm so sorry, friend, I just don't I know. Gosh,

1019
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:08.760
I'm so sorry friend.

1020
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:09.519
Just in case.

1021
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:14.159
Yeah, I mean, you know, just be careful. He's awfully cute.

1022
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.360
Yeah cool, we got one.

1023
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.679
I might have to put it on my shelf back here.

1024
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:26.159
What do you guys think? All right, well do you

1025
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:28.280
think is it about that time? Should we say the

1026
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.679
thing closer out?

1027
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:49.360
Have a day? See you next Tuesday.

1028
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:54.760
Yeah, it's cute. I'm serious. I'm forming an emotional attachment

1029
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:55.599
to it already.

1030
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:57.039
I'm worried