Santa’s Shadow: Krampus Unleashed on Leavenworth

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell.200:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it.300:00:15,000 --> 00:00:21,720So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th,400:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,200Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff.500:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,200Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow.600:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,200Oh, yes.700:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,200Very spooky.800:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,200Ho ho ho, Caitlyn.900:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,200Ho ho ho, Cassie.1000:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200Ho ho ho, creepy people.1100:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200I kinda like that.1200:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,200Hello.1300:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,200If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides,1400:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,200where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y,1500:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200in the Pacific Northwest.1600:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,200That's amazing.1700:01:08,200 --> 00:01:15,200We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week.1800:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200So make sure you stick around if you're into that.1900:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,200Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always.2000:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,200True.2100:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,200Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode. 2200:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200Woo, woo, from the window to the walls.2300:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,200Skeet, skeet.2400:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever.2500:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that.2600:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,200We're just linking.2700:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200Yeah, we'll show notes too.2800:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,200I love it.2900:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,200Just in case.3000:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,200Yeah.3100:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,200If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing?3200:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,200Yeah.3300:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,200We're hilarious.3400:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,200I agree.3500:01:57,200 --> 00:02:04,200I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand.3600:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,200It's very true.3700:02:05,200 --> 00:02:16,200I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know.3800:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,200I would be too.3900:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,200All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary.4000:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200It wasn't that scary.4100:02:24,200 --> 00:02:35,200It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds.4200:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200There were some shenanigans.4300:02:37,200 --> 00:02:45,200There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics.4400:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200But there were some creepy shit in there.4500:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,200I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out.4600:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,200There was one that I couldn't take out.4700:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,200It was like over her voice or under her voice.4800:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200It sounded like robotic.4900:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,200It was really creepy.5000:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,200So I don't know if anyone caught that.5100:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,200Okay.5200:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,200So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode.5300:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,200And I love that for her.5400:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,200Yeah.5500:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,200In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I...5600:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,200Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"?5700:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200Oh my god.5800:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200Well anyway, today is a less scary topic.5900:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200Is this the holiday?6000:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200You know, we got to keep it light around here.6100:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,200So...6200:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,200All right.6300:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200Well, you know, also keeping it creepy.6400:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200We're baubles deep into December.6500:03:33,200 --> 00:03:40,200Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just...6600:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,200It went perfectly together.6700:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,200It really did.6800:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200It really did.6900:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,200Wow.7000:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,200So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret.7100:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,200No.7200:03:50,200 --> 00:03:57,200And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas.7300:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,200You know, that's fair.7400:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,200So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing.7500:04:05,200 --> 00:04:14,200But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart.7600:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,200I grew up with it.7700:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,200So, yeah.7800:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,200It's kind of a magical time, magical season.7900:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,200Very magical.8000:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,200Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas.8100:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,200Which I did last night.8200:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,200Love it.8300:04:28,200 --> 00:04:35,200And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie.8400:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,200You know that.8500:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right?8600:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,200I have.8700:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,200I have.8800:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,200It's been quite a few years.8900:04:41,200 --> 00:04:47,200I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it.9000:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,200You should.9100:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,200Okay.9200:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this?9300:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,200What's this?9400:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,200He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas.9500:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,200Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think.9600:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,200Definitely Christmas.9700:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200Christmas is special.9800:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,200It's warm.9900:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,200Warm and fuzzy.10000:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,200Warm and fuzzy.10100:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,200Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town?10200:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,200Yes.10300:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,200Did you?10400:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,200I did.10500:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200I didn't honestly before this.10600:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,200I didn't.10700:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200I really did.10800:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,200It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas.10900:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,200It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town.11000:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,200So adorable, but it's still extremely magical.11100:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200And I think a quote from this locations website is in order.11200:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200Of course.11300:05:37,200 --> 00:05:49,200Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere.11400:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,200The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting.11500:05:53,200 --> 00:06:00,200The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events.11600:06:00,200 --> 00:06:06,200Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine.11700:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200Sample locally brewed beers.11800:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,200Very important.11900:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,200Excellent.12000:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,200And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences.12100:06:16,200 --> 00:06:22,200It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!"12200:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200Adorable.12300:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200That's on their website.12400:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,200So freaking cute.12500:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,200Holy schnitzel.12600:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,200So have you been to Leavenworth?12700:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,200I have.12800:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,200Yeah.12900:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,200Is it beautiful?13000:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,200It's gorgeous.13100:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,200I've never been.13200:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,200I've been, I think it was in the fall time.13300:06:37,200 --> 00:06:45,200So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings.13400:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,200And all of the buildings are so cute.13500:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,200It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town.13600:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,200Oh my god, I have to go someday.13700:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200Was it all lit up when you went?13800:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,200No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving.13900:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,200Exactly.14000:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,200Yeah.14100:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,2002010, I was there.14200:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,200Oh my god, that was like a decade ago.14300:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,200Yeah.14400:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,200So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February.14500:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,200So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time.14600:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200That's, yeah, it's quite the window.14700:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,200And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out.14800:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200My mommy actually just went with her friends.14900:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200Yeah, she said it was gorgeous.15000:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200She sent me a couple of pictures.15100:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,200Oh good.15200:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200And she said it was so much fun.15300:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,200And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it.15400:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,200I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about.15500:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,200Yeah.15600:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,200And this is why I'm doing the podcast.15700:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200I can learn about them.15800:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,200That's fair.15900:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200Also, I just realized I went in June.16000:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,200Oh.16100:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,200I did not go in the fall.16200:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,200Okay, was it cold though still?16300:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200It was chilly in the evening.16400:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200Yeah, for sure.16500:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200But.16600:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,200So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go.16700:08:07,200 --> 00:08:16,200But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas,16800:08:16,200 --> 00:08:23,200what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi.16900:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200Ooh.17000:08:25,200 --> 00:08:35,200So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked.17100:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200Krampusnacht.17200:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,200Krampusnacht.17300:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,200December 5th.17400:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,200You might see Krampus costumes around town.17500:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,200It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration.17600:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,200Okay.17700:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,200So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern.17800:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,200And I was like, huh.17900:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,200That's interesting.18000:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,200I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus.18100:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,200You know?18200:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,200It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance.18300:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200Oh, no.18400:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200Big and hairy with goat-like horns.18500:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,200Yeah.18600:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200I mean, no notes.18700:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,200And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs.18800:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,200Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird.18900:09:31,200 --> 00:09:37,200And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw.19000:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,200Oh.19100:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,200He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses.19200:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,200Ooh.19300:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200Phalanges.19400:09:44,200 --> 00:09:51,200So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps.19500:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,200Yeah.19600:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,200That's exactly what it means.19700:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,200It sounds like.19800:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,200Yeah.19900:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,200I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is.20000:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200I mean, I literally just picture.20100:10:01,200 --> 00:10:09,200I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music.20200:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,200She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music.20300:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200Pretty sure that was based in Austria.20400:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200And people skiing.20500:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,200Yeah.20600:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,200Definitely skiing.20700:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,200Yeah.20800:10:22,200 --> 00:10:32,200And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil.20900:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,200Working naughty children with sticks.21000:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,200Yeah.21100:10:36,200 --> 00:10:43,200Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer.21200:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200Great.21300:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200I would prefer neither.21400:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200Sounds like a fun time.21500:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,200Okay.21600:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,200I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that.21700:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,200Oh.21800:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200Be naughty, save Santa the trip.21900:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,200That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates.22000:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,800I had no idea.22100:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,480But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together.22200:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,480We'll talk about it.22300:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,480Yeah.22400:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,480We'll talk about it.22500:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840Oh my God.22600:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,000So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son22700:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,400of Hel.22800:11:24,400 --> 00:11:31,640Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected22900:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,840to Germany.23000:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,840So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling.23100:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,840Yeah.23200:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,840The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology.23300:11:44,840 --> 00:11:53,680Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell?23400:11:53,680 --> 00:11:54,680Oh.23500:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,680Sounds kind of familiar.23600:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,360Yeah, a little bit.23700:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,680And she is the daughter of Loki.23800:12:02,680 --> 00:12:03,680Okay.23900:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,000We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter.24000:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000Yeah.24100:12:08,000 --> 00:12:15,760Krampus has quite the pedigree.24200:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,760Yeah.24300:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,480And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous24400:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,840cultural and religious beliefs apparently.24500:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,840Yeah.24600:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,840Yeah.24700:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,840As if we weren't already aware.24800:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,840Yeah.24900:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,840But you know, you just got to drill it in.25000:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,840Yeah.25100:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,080Oh my God.25200:12:33,080 --> 00:12:40,080Okay.25300:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,080So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix.25400:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,080And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with.25500:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,080I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day.25600:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,080Okay.25700:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,080Nikolaustag.25800:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,080Oh my goodness.25900:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,080Not how you say it.26000:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,080Nikolaustag.26100:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,080Nikolaustag.26200:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,080Nikolaustagt.26300:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080Nikolaustag.26400:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080Do you need me to look it up?26500:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,080Nikolaustagt.26600:13:00,080 --> 00:13:07,160It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and26700:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,160then T-A-G.26800:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,160Nikolaustag.26900:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,560Nikolaustag.27000:13:11,560 --> 00:13:16,080Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht.27100:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,080Okay.27200:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,520So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus.27300:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560Super long story short.27400:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,400Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y.27500:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400Okay.27600:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,400Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus?27700:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,400Right.27800:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,240That's fair.27900:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,840But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they28000:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,000wanted to keep the legend alive.28100:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,240Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah.28200:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,640You know what I mean?28300:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960That's where I'm going with that.28400:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,640And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right?28500:13:58,640 --> 00:14:05,640There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell.28600:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,640Yeah.28700:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640Yeah.28800:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,200There's, there really is nothing quite like it.28900:14:10,200 --> 00:14:17,760So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th, Krampusnacht29000:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,880to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff.29100:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,640Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow.29200:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,640Oh, yeah.29300:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,640Spooky.29400:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,640Very spooky.29500:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,640Okay.29600:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,640So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning?29700:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,640Yeah.29800:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,520There's actually a reason for that.29900:14:41,520 --> 00:14:49,440In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional30000:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,640Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle."30100:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,640Ooh.30200:14:56,640 --> 00:15:04,000They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus30300:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,640cosplay parade.30400:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840Hello.30500:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,240They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff.30600:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,440It's really cool.30700:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,080That sounds amazing.30800:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,240I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person.30900:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,880Wow, wow, wow.31000:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,480I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible.31100:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120It's on theme.31200:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,080The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back31300:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,720the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it.31400:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760I love that.31500:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,680From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the31600:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,280charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022.31700:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,280Oh, no, why?31800:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280I'll tell you.31900:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080Oh, no.32000:16:01,080 --> 00:16:09,060A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who32100:16:09,060 --> 00:16:16,720objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh32200:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,040with the events and the friendly reputation."32300:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,040What?32400:16:22,040 --> 00:16:30,520Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right?32500:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,920And it's like it's one day.32600:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,920Come on.32700:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,120God.32800:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,520To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen,32900:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760the Krampus Karen's Unite.33000:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,760Yeah.33100:16:45,760 --> 00:16:52,840So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized33200:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,200by 11 worth leaders.33300:16:55,200 --> 00:17:01,600So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus,33400:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000don't fucking come on Krampusnacht.33500:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000Seriously.33600:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000But it's sad.33700:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,360They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf.33800:17:10,360 --> 00:17:11,360What was it?33900:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,360Krampuslauf party?34000:17:12,360 --> 00:17:13,360Yeah.34100:17:13,360 --> 00:17:14,360Yeah.34200:17:14,360 --> 00:17:17,840But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing.34300:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,720They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know34400:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,160was a thing, but that sounds fun.34500:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,160Yeah.34600:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,160Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton,34700:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,280Washington, where the event was received with open arms.34800:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,840Open...claws?34900:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,840Open claws.35000:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840Yeah.35100:17:42,840 --> 00:17:48,760They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus35200:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,640nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus.35300:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,640Stop it.35400:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,120That happened last night, actually.35500:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,320I am obsessed.35600:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,840Next year we have to go.35700:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,840We're going.35800:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,840That sounds really fun.35900:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,440I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting.36000:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,120I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably36100:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,120will watch it.36200:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,120I mean, come on.36300:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,720Oh my God, I just had a flashback.36400:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,720Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show?36500:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,720Oh my God.36600:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240It was like on MTV.36700:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,240I hold on.36800:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,120I will look it up.36900:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,120Celebrity Death Match.37000:18:28,120 --> 00:18:29,120Yes.37100:18:29,120 --> 00:18:30,120Oh my God.37200:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,120That show is so fun.37300:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,960That's what this reminds me of.37400:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,960Yeah.37500:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,960It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match.37600:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960Definitely.37700:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that.37800:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,960Ooh.37900:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,960They should have.38000:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960We're going to investigate that.38100:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,960Oh.38200:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,560They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen.38300:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560Oh.38400:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,360And Tim Allen played Santa Claus.38500:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,360That's true.38600:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360That's true.38700:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,360Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus.38800:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,560I love that for him.38900:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,840So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this.39000:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,040This is from the KrampusBremerton.com.39100:19:12,040 --> 00:19:18,560Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological39200:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720generosity.39300:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,840What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead?39400:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,840What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be39500:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080kind, patient, and compassionate?39600:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080Oh.39700:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080I like that.39800:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,080I know.39900:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,080I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is40000:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,840cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing40100:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,320you what really good is.40200:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,320Right.40300:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,440This is a reminder.40400:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,880But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa.40500:20:01,880 --> 00:20:09,680With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd,40600:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720stop it.40700:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,680Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini.40800:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,680Ooh.40900:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,880Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself.41000:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720Oh, yes.41100:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720Krampus cookies.41200:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,4806.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut.41300:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk.41400:20:34,000 --> 00:20:40,480And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl.41500:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,480Oh.41600:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480Yeah.41700:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480Literally have.41800:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,720There's something called child stew and I fucking died.41900:20:49,720 --> 00:20:56,520It's just like, how do you order that?42000:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,520You know?42100:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,680I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please.42200:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,080Childless stew.42300:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,520Also fun fact about me.42400:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,760I love bread bowls.42500:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,760I do too.42600:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,760So fucking.42700:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760So incredible.42800:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000Like sourdough bread bowl.42900:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,240Nothing better.43000:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,160I will eat the entire bread bowl.43100:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160Yeah.43200:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,160Don't test me.43300:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,160Yeah.43400:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,160I would never.43500:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,400They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch43600:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400sweater today.43700:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400Hello.43800:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,200And it's green.43900:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200Got rain.44000:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,560I want to go get it.44100:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,400So this brings me to our last little bit here.44200:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,640We visited the Kampus.44300:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440We'll set up through the veil.44400:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,440Oh my gosh.44500:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,440Yeah.44600:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840That feels like a lifetime ago.44700:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840I know.44800:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,440We took a bunch of photos.44900:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,840Chris took our photos.45000:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,840Thank you, Chris.45100:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,440Thank you, Chris.45200:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,160And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon.45300:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,160Hi.45400:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160Hi.45500:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,160Hi.45600:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160Hi.45700:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160Happy Patreon holidays.45800:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160Yeah.45900:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,160You get a holiday card.46000:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas.46100:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,160Yeah.46200:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160Yeah.46300:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,160So that'll be fun.46400:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160They're really cute.46500:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160Yeah.46600:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,160They turned out super cute.46700:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,160Yeah.46800:22:14,160 --> 00:22:21,480So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff46900:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,720that they have in the store.47000:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,720Like I can't even.47100:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,720Yeah.47200:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,720Actually, this is one of my purchases from...47300:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,720Oh yeah, it is.47400:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,720Yeah.47500:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440And we also have a couple other purchases we made there.47600:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,880We got little mystery tarot cards.47700:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,800And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their47800:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,400altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on47900:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,400their altar.48000:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,960So that was my plan.48100:22:51,960 --> 00:23:01,400And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus.48200:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,360It has a very long protruding tongue and horns.48300:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,360I cannot.48400:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,360I cannot.48500:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,840So I had to take it with me, of course.48600:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,880And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally48700:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120just notice that today.48800:23:18,120 --> 00:23:22,880So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because48900:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,720it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much.49000:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040It's just too good.49100:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,920And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot.49200:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920I think she wants to open it today too.49300:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,920Yeah.49400:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,000So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the49500:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,120tarot reading and that will be that.49600:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,680Ho ho ho.49700:23:44,680 --> 00:23:52,640As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows.49800:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,520So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share with you this week.49900:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,920Let's show them some love.50000:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,920You can find their info in our show notes.50100:24:00,920 --> 00:24:09,720Hey, I'm Gina and I'm Amber.50200:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,280And we're here to bring you the Weird True Crime Podcast where we cover true crime cases50300:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920that will leave you asking yourself, did that really happen?50400:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,920We'll dive into questionable cases throughout history that are solved, unsolved, or just50500:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080plain unbelievable.50600:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,480We'll also talk about the court gear side of true crime and episodes we like to call50700:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480What the f*ck Wednesday.50800:24:31,480 --> 00:24:40,520So be sure to subscribe and listen on your favorite podcast service.50900:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840You guys were back!51000:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520And don't worry, we did get more wine.51100:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,520Well, of course.51200:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,640Okay, before tarot, we're doing things.51300:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,640We're doing things.51400:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,640Okay.51500:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,440What are we opening, Caitlyn?51600:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,120We have so many fun things to open.51700:25:02,120 --> 00:25:10,240We have not checked our PO box for a little while.51800:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,280So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received.51900:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040But it's so cute.52000:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,360I know.52100:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,120I'm going to read it.52200:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,520Please do.52300:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600It's spooky season.52400:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,360Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast.52500:25:28,360 --> 00:25:33,440Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week.52600:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,360Stay spooky.52700:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360From Danny.52800:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,920Oh, thank you, Danny.52900:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,920You wanna...53000:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas.53100:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920But I love Halloween.53200:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920And there's something Halloweeny.53300:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640Oh, I love Halloweeny.53400:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120Okay.53500:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,760And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from.53600:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,360Because I recognize the handwriting.53700:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer.53800:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,400Oh, Hi Elyse.53900:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400Oh, Winston.54000:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400Oh, Winston.54100:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400We love her.54200:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400Yeah.54300:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400So flipping cute.54400:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,880And she sent us a little sticker peac.54500:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,880Of course she did.54600:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480She's always so good with the stickers.54700:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480I know.54800:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,200Look at this little Christmas Winston.54900:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200It's adorable.55000:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720Oh, I love it.55100:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,880I really want Winston on the pod.55200:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880I know.55300:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880I know.55400:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,680So many things.55500:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,680And we have this.55600:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840What's that?55700:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,920This came from Caitlin.55800:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720Caitlyn, who?55900:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720Not me.56000:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720Hi, Caitlin.56100:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,720Oh, this is so cute.56200:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720Happy holiday.56300:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,920Got that Lumberjack plaid on there.56400:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920Right?56500:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,560It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me.56600:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,560Okay.56700:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760I'm going to read this to you.56800:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760Caitlyn and Cassie.56900:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600What's up?57000:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year.57100:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,600I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers.57200:27:10,600 --> 00:27:18,120Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on.57300:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,120Yeah.57400:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,120I'm so excited.57500:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,640I love meeting everybody.57600:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,640I know.57700:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,640Literally.57800:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640I love it.57900:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,640I love it.58000:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640I love people.58100:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,440I know I would say people, but I love my people.58200:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,440Yeah.58300:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080No, that's the difference.58400:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,000Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts.58500:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360Happy holidays, Caitlin.58600:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,360Yes.58700:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,560Oh my gosh.58800:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,880My eyes are tearing up.58900:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680I'm not crying.59000:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,920She's not crying, though.59100:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920Oh no.59200:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920Oh no.59300:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920Oh my god.59400:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,920What?59500:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920Okay.59600:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920There's candy cans.59700:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,920Yes.59800:27:59,920 --> 00:28:06,080And there's two little wrapped things in here.59900:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080Okay.60000:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board.60100:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,920So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you.60200:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920That feels on brand.60300:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,080Oh my god.60400:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120Is this a sucker?60500:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,400Yes.60600:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen.60700:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,600We'll take closer pictures.60800:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,600Oh my god.60900:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600Where did you get this?61000:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,120Oh my god.61100:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,240I am obsessed.61200:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440Mine's blackberry pear.61300:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440Ooh.61400:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,440Ooh.61500:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,440Oh yeah.61600:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440I did see the Skittles right on top.61700:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440So those are already gone.61800:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,960Oh my gosh.61900:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000This is so cute.62000:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400Stop it.62100:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800A tarot card.62200:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920Scented bath bomb.62300:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920Oh my god.62400:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920Yours is so cute.62500:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,920Look at this.62600:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920Ooh.62700:28:56,920 --> 00:29:05,560It's so excited for this.62800:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560What is your scent?62900:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680Um, a biscuit.63000:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,920I love a biscuit.63100:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920What's yours?63200:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,920Rose.63300:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,920Do we need a trade?63400:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840What do you want?63500:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760I love Rose.63600:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960Thank you, Kate.63700:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960I was.63800:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960We traded.63900:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960Oh my gosh.64000:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,240I'm taking a bath like tonight.64100:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880I don't have a tub, but I will find one.64200:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880I have a tub.64300:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880I actually do.64400:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880Okay.64500:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880I'm house sitting.64600:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880So I do have access to a tub.64700:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880Actually, this is perfect.64800:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880This is so perfect.64900:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880I'm so excited.65000:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880I all have a tub, Kate.65100:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880I'm so excited.65200:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880I'm going to take a video.65300:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880So excited.65400:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,880Yeah.65500:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,880I was just going to say.65600:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,880Oh my gosh.65700:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,880Okay.65800:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880What else is in here?65900:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880Oh my gosh.66000:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880Oh my gosh.66100:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880Oh my gosh.66200:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880Oh my gosh.66300:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880Oh.66400:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880Self-care thing.66500:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880Oh.66600:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880Oh my gosh.66700:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880Oh my gosh.66800:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880Oh my gosh.66900:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880Oh my gosh.67000:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880Oh my gosh.67100:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880Oh.67200:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880Self-care thing.67300:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880Oh.67400:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,880Oh my gosh.67500:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880Oh my gosh.67600:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,880Oh my gosh.67700:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880Oh my gosh.67800:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,880Oh my gosh.67900:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,880Oh my gosh.68000:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,880Oh.68100:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,880Self-care thing.68200:30:18,880 --> 00:30:28,000and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear68300:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,360this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that.68400:30:33,360 --> 00:30:44,320Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken68500:30:44,320 --> 00:30:54,880sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope68600:30:54,880 --> 00:31:02,000tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know.68700:31:02,720 --> 00:31:16,000Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles.68800:31:16,000 --> 00:31:27,040Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away68900:31:27,040 --> 00:31:34,800money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one.69000:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,080Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if69100:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,760that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy69200:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,080car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does.69300:31:52,080 --> 00:32:00,480Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility,69400:32:00,480 --> 00:32:08,720poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass69500:32:08,720 --> 00:32:17,680church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones.69600:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,440Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode,69700:32:25,440 --> 00:32:35,520because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a69800:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,400Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow,69900:32:42,400 --> 00:32:56,320that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun.70000:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,120It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like70100:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,640it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain.70200:33:09,680 --> 00:33:18,000Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just70300:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,720I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I70400:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,480wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute.70500:33:33,040 --> 00:33:45,120All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key70600:33:45,120 --> 00:33:55,760words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites.70700:33:56,960 --> 00:34:05,760Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good70800:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,000and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah.70900:34:12,000 --> 00:34:25,360Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some71000:34:25,360 --> 00:34:33,200decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in71100:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,920a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a71200:34:41,920 --> 00:34:50,320winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back.71300:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,640You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a71400:35:00,640 --> 00:35:09,120young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card.71500:35:09,120 --> 00:35:18,720Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people71600:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,680interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites,71700:35:25,680 --> 00:35:35,520your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future71800:35:35,520 --> 00:35:43,840if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female71900:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,240coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just72000:35:52,240 --> 00:36:02,240got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working72100:36:02,240 --> 00:36:11,840together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner.72200:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,880Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas.72300:36:16,880 --> 00:36:26,240When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the72400:36:26,240 --> 00:36:35,280romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers72500:36:35,280 --> 00:36:42,320represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates72600:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,760you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision.72700:36:47,760 --> 00:36:55,440Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew.72800:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,960In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's.72900:37:05,440 --> 00:37:17,040That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into73000:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,840wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like,73100:37:23,840 --> 00:37:31,680oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up.73200:37:32,400 --> 00:37:40,240If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony.73300:37:40,240 --> 00:37:46,880Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal.73400:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,800The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through73500:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,560working with a romantic partner in business.73600:37:59,360 --> 00:38:10,640Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus?73700:38:10,640 --> 00:38:20,160I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she73800:38:20,160 --> 00:38:29,280comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right73900:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,000click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just74000:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,640call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology74100:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,200there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her,74200:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,680she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that74300:38:56,640 --> 00:39:04,160in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring74400:39:04,160 --> 00:39:11,760and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means74500:39:11,760 --> 00:39:22,000a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus74600:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,000evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's74700:39:28,000 --> 00:39:36,160a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel.74800:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,960It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing74900:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,600something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide?75000:39:50,160 --> 00:39:59,200I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones.75100:39:59,200 --> 00:40:06,800Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five75200:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,000five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it75300:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,200looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could75400:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,920see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom75500:40:27,920 --> 00:40:37,680or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings75600:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,840out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles.75700:40:45,840 --> 00:40:54,880And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally...75800:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,440They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't...75900:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,720I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this76000:41:06,720 --> 00:41:13,200card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil76100:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,320episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there.76200:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,600I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we76300:41:23,600 --> 00:41:30,240start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because76400:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,360they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board76500:41:37,360 --> 00:41:46,480that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap.76600:41:46,480 --> 00:41:55,600Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then76700:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,800we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not.76800:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,480With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass.76900:42:10,480 --> 00:42:18,800Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know.77000:42:18,800 --> 00:42:26,000I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too.77100:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,840I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine77200:42:33,840 --> 00:42:41,120was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean,77300:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,600that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you...77400:42:47,600 --> 00:42:54,320specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah.77500:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,320Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first?77600:43:00,320 --> 00:43:10,320[Music]77700:43:10,320 --> 00:43:35,120[Music]77800:43:35,120 --> 00:43:44,480Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my77900:43:44,480 --> 00:43:54,400God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said78000:43:54,400 --> 00:44:04,000well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.