April 30, 2026

Portland’s Titanic Exhibit: A Haunting Tragedy

Portland’s Titanic Exhibit: A Haunting Tragedy
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This episode dives into the immersive Titanic Artifact Exhibit at OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry), blending haunting history, real-life tragedy, and eerie modern-day coincidences. The exhibit’s emotional weight builds through authentic artifacts, heartbreaking survivor and victim stories.

The episode also explores Pacific Northwest connections, including Herman Klaber and the Warrens of Portland, alongside modern tragedy with Paul-Henri Nargeolet and the Titan submersible implosion. Paranormal elements surface with reports of haunted exhibits and a mysterious flood at the Volo Museum on the anniversary of the sinking, blending history, ghost stories, and maritime mystery into one chilling narrative.

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This is a quote from Jim, the marketing director of

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the museum. Okay, the irony of any Titanic exhibit flooding

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is strange enough, but the fact that our flooded on

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the exact anniversary of the Titanic sinking is more ironic.

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It's almost paranormal, they even think. But that's a little tool.

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And the interesting thing is this is not the only

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time it's flooded. Hi, Caitlin, Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people, helly.

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This is PNW Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime,

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the paranormal, and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest

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or the p and W Nicety and we also do

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a terror reading at the end of every episode for

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a little deeper insight into our topic that we do.

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And if you hear some wrestling around in the background,

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it's just a baby dog. It's just a baby dog.

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It's just my baby, baby baby dog. So don't mind. Shototte.

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Hopefully that's not a trademarked song. Yeah, I can't imagine

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it is, but it's your interpretation of it, so that's fine.

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It's true. It's true. We didn't play the clip or yes, exactly,

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I think that's permissible.

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It's a cover.

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Yeah, and it's such a short clip too, Like I

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said earlier, No, I don't want to say it sue me.

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Yeah, don't don't. It has no money. Yeah, well, I

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don't think we have anything to talk about at the beginning.

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Let's just it's just a PLoP right into it. Flap

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is correct.

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I feel like that's that's like if if we created

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a mood bar for today's mood, PLoP would be PLoP

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would be yeah, applop for it.

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Yeah, it just feels right, you know, Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Okay,

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So I can't remember if I told you about this,

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but I've been kind of not talking about it on

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purpose because I wanted to do an episode on it. Oh.

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So I went to the Titanic Artifact exhibit at Amzi.

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You did tell me you were going to go. You

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haven't told me anything about it exactly. I don't even

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think did I send you any pictures or anything?

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No? I don't think. So okay, because like while I

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was there, I was like, I'm going to do an episode.

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I'll find a way. I'll do an episode this way

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to relate it to the P and W and spooky shit,

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and you know what here it is, this is what

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we're doing.

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If it were the first time we talked about the Titanic.

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But it's not. It's not. You know, it's not. We

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haven't done an episode up sold on it though, right now? Okay, No,

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did you do a true crime episode about it? Yeah?

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It was like a crossover.

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It was like a rewatch slash true crime podcast because

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I basically just talked about how Billy Zane's character is, like, oh, right, criminal.

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He's kind of a dick, but yeah, it's okay, he's

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the great person I think. I actually don't know. Don't

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quote me on that. Yeah, I'm not.

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I'm really not willing to go out there on a

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limb for a.

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Maid, right, yeah, a Hollywood man. We just don't know

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these days. Yeah, so I'll show you the first picture.

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Oh guess who I went with? By the way, everybody

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guess your main I went with my mom, with my mom.

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But here's a picture of me on the day, Oh

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my god, in front of a picture of the classic

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Grand Staircase in my h Leonardo DiCaprio shirt. Yeah.

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I need to get some quotes, you know, because what

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I want is to have that staircase just installed somewhere here.

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Yeah, yes, I mean I told your husband to pick

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up a thousand pounds of lumber at home Depot. So yeah,

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Lows or wherever the fuck he was going home Depot?

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Like who got to Low though? I don't know.

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I guess you go when Low's is closer or home

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Depot is out of the thing that you wanted.

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Why are they always in the same parking lot. They

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pretty much are the weirdest thing I've ever seen in

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my whole life. They're so close together. I don't understand. Anyway,

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this is not about maybe we should do an episode

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on Home Depot and Lows, but not today, not today,

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not today. So in case you guys don't know what

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AMSY is if you're not from Oregon or the PNW,

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because I feel like most people in the PNW know

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what it is. But yeah, it stands for the Oregon

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Museum of Science and Industry. Oh so they have, you know,

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tons of science y things there, but they have like

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different exhibits that roll through aditionally.

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They also have that what's that thing called with that

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you could see the stars? Oh, like planetarium. Yeah, they

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have a sanitarium and I want to go there so badly.

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That sounds really cool. Lived here my whole life had

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never been to the planetarium. I don't think i've been either.

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We need to go pot trip, just saying. Their website

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says about the Titanic Artifact Exhibit, this immersive exhibition offers

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a rare opportunity for audiences of all ages to explore

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the innovation, ambition, and tragedy of Titanic while connecting personally

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with the people whose lives were forever changed by her.

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Voyage goes on to say, step back to April nineteen

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twelve and assume the role of a passenger on the

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ship's first and final journey. With more than one hundred

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authentic artifacts recovered from the rex set, guests are immersed

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in life on board the Titanic and the deeply human

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stories behind one of history's most enduring legends.

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They were not wrong. All of that is correct, Yes, Okay,

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super accurate.

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WHOA.

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So they did have a ton of artifacts that it

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was like, I'll talk about it a little bit later,

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but it was just so so eerie to see, just

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like the water damage of all of the things. It's crazy. Yeah.

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So when we checked in, they gave us a boarding

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pass ah to the Titanic the White Star Line. Oh

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my god, it's so cool. But even cooler than this

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is on the back they gave you like information about

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a certain passenger, So they gave you a specific passenger

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and all of their information.

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Shot the actual Hell uh yep.

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Wow. So my passenger was mister Paul Edwin Andresen, oh

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twenty from Sweden. And it gives you, like the if

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they were accompanied by anyone, It gives you like all

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their passenger friends or relations. Yeah. And then it tells

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you what class they were in. I was in third class.

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Oh buma. My mom was in first. I feel like

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she uh, she took both the tickets and then handed

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them handed one to me and I feel like she

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kind of cheated, but that's fine. Wow. And it has

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your cabin number, but mine was unknown. I think probably

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because I was third class. Oh, we don't even care. Yeah,

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And it tells you like a little blurb about like

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why they were on the Titanic, a little bit about

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their life. I think it was so cool. I was

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a blacksmith. Oh, I like that for you. What are

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you looking at? I'm looking at.

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The page for it because I wanted to see if

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I was like I figured, because I thought this was

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a pretty new exhibit. But I was like, oh God,

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is there's still time to go see it?

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You know?

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So yeah, it looks like it's open through October.

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Okay, yeah, and it was open like last month, right

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mm hmm.

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Yeah, so right before Spooky st When I get swooped out,

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I wonder, what's that I.

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Love going to all of their exhibits. Well, I mean,

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obviously not all of them, but a lot of them

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I've been to and they're great. They do really great stuff.

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I've been to like one or two different exhibits over

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the years, but this is I kind of I need this.

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I think you need to go. It's really cool and

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I'll talk about some stuff, but like not even there's

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way way more like I'm not going to tell you everything.

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No, I mean, it couldn't possibly cover it, I feel like,

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but I.

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Will tell you. At the end of the exhibit, you

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scan a little code on the back of your boarding

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past tell you if you tells you if you're a

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survivor or a victim.

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I am not.

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I know, and sadly both me and my mom were victims.

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Are not. We were both men too, so I was like,

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I don't know the likelihood, Yes, it's probably not great.

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Uh yeah. And then me being third class, I was like,

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I'm definitely super going down man. Yeah. Also, at the end,

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like by the scanning machines, they had a huge wall

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of all of the survivors and victims names. So it's

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kind of crazy just to see like the volume, Like

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you get to see like the volume of people. And

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obviously like the third class and the crew were the

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most affected, they had the longest victimless unfortunately. And it

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was interesting because you could like look through all the

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names and you can kind of my mom was my

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mom's passenger persona. He was with his daughter, and so

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she wanted to go through see like if his daughter

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had made it out. Yeah, and she did. So that

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was pretty cool to see, like you can really connect

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and like relate.

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To yeah no, and like it really connects you to

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the narrative.

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Yeah, And it was super interesting. So there was a

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lady standing next to us and she was looking through

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the names and then she got like really emotional and

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she's like I found her and it was her. I

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think it was a relative. I'm not sure. What the

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relative was. But she found a relative. They're coming for me,

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but she had found one of her relatives on the

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list of survivors. Wow, and she got very emotional. It

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was crazy to kind of witness that.

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Oh my gosh, I can imagine.

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How many people like you were there for that moment

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when that person found like their relative, right, yeah. Wow.

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And she had said that person like wouldn't talk about it. Really, So,

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I don't even know if she admitted to even being

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on the Titanic or what. I don't obviously, I don't

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know this person's life story, but it right, it sounded

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like because she was so excited to find her name

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that maybe she didn't even admit to being on it.

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I'm not really sure.

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Yeah, I mean maybe maybe it was like something where

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it was like it was a fact that was maybe

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known to certain family members, but something that she didn't

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want to discuss, right, which totally makes sense.

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Understandable because I can't even imagine going through something like

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that's crazy. And there was quite a few informational posters

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of the survivor's stories, and obviously a lot of them

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had to do with losing someone in the sinking. Yeah,

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and a lot of people actually had tickets for another

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ship and like got transferred to the Titanic too, which

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is oh my god, crazy, oh my god, like everything

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that had to happen for those people to be on

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that boat at that moment, it is pretty emotional. Like,

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obviously I'm a fan of the movie, you know, so

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that makes you it's even weird to say you're a

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fan of like the Titanic, but.

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Right, yeah, I mean it's an interest.

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Yeah, I guess, And I don't know why. I think

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probably because of the movie.

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But yeah, I mean it's obviously it's a fascinating historical topic.

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But think about you know that it's a very formative

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moment in our lives, at least the age you know

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that we were at when that movie came out. Of course,

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you feel like kind of this you know, it's hard

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to describe, but you have like this sort of innate

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interest and you feel like you have this connection to

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at the very least the film, you know, maybe to

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just overall the Titanic.

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But and it was around the time that we were

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born that they even finally found it. I'd kind of

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forgotten that they didn't find it until I think it

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was like eighty seven.

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Oh my gosh, really I'm trying to eighty five. Okay, yeah,

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I think to eighty five.

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So yeah, that was like, you know, right, like right

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before we were born and then the movie, so it's

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like a core, a core memory. Yeah. So they did

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have a bunch of different quotes from Passengers as well.

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It was very There was a lot about the passengers

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which I really appreciated, like a lot, Right, I feel

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like that's important. I think so too, because yeah, they're

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the ones who it happened to, you know, so.

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Right, I mean there's so much that is important to

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discuss or learn about, and that like informs you about

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the world and about this major event, right, that doesn't

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necessarily directly connect you to the victim, right, Yes.

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But.

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I don't know, I feel like the like that's all

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well and good, but without that, it really just is

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this sort of cold like it would be like going

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to a deposition almost, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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that just like puts it in perspective, I think a

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little bit. Yeah, it's the human experience aspect of it.

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It just feels like that's important.

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Yeah, So I'm going to read you a couple quotes

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they're a little heartbreaking because they are just two of

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a ton that they had. This is from Ida Strauss.

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She was a first class passenger and IDAs Strauss. Ida Strauss,

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is this like a famous person? Yeah, so let me.

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It sounded familiar when I said it.

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So she's like particularly significant. And this quote, I'm really

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interested to hear what it is. It's being shared.

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So.

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IDAs Strauss was a first class passenger on the Titanic

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who famously refused to abandon her husband is a door

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co owner of Macy's. During the nineteen twelve sinking, she

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gave her fur coat to her maid and chose to

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die with her husband, embodying a story of devotion often

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commemorated in Titanic history.

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I'm glad we did that quote. Probably the quote I'm

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gonna rest, That's what I'm thinking. So she didn't make

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it right now. I meant to look this up. So

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I'm glad that you did. Yeah, thank you.

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There's two other like important spots here, Okay, so I won't.

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Read the quote.

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But born in Germany in eighteen forty nine, she was

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the wife of Isidore Strauss, a businessman and former congressman.

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They are memorialized at Strauss Park in Manhattan.

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Oh oh my gosh.

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They were actually supposed to be in a scene in

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the Titanic, but it's a deleted scene. I will have

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to watch that, like they're yeah, they're of them or okay, yeah, interesting, so.

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A deleted scene, I know, right, we have to find it. Yeah, okay,

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So knowing that context, Yeah, this is why I was like,

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I'm going to go in reading this quote and I

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like didn't even look it up because I suck it life,

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but it worked out. Yeah, okay, So knowing that context,

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her quote, we have lived together for many years where

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you go, I go, which sounds like like the captain

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like kind of like the same, like I'm going down

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with the ship like I pretty much right. Yeah, So

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I don't know.

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I'm sure there are probably like different iterations of like

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the quote, and maybe some are like a paraphrase versus

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like an actual like quote.

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Right because they survive. So it's kind of like hearsay,

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yeah that's what I'm thinking.

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But just the real quick Google surge, I did it

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says when offered a seat in a lifeboat, i'da refuse,

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stating I will not be separated from my husband, as

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we have lived together, so shall we die together?

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I know? Then I and then I chose the second quote,

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which kind of kind of goes along with it. This

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is from another person, Charlotte Collier, who was the second

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class passenger, and it says women and children first. Someone

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was shouting these last few words over and over again.

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They met my own safety, but also meant the greatest

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loss I've ever suffered, the life of my husband. So

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it's like you kind of did have to choose, Like,

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and then this Ida chose to stay with her husband,

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so it's like you either choose your life or you know.

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Okay, so they are still depicted in the film. Okay,

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you remember that, Yes, the.

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Old couple in bed hugging and cuddling.

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So they had a scene where it was like about

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how she refused to leave. That was like, I don't know,

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I feel like I remember seeing a little bit more

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of this couple than just the bed scene. But like,

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clearly there was something extended about these characters, these people

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that was like cut from the final film.

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Wow, it like makes watching the movie more sad because

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the people were like actually based on real passengers, like

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obviously Jack and Rose. We don't. We don't know, it

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could have happened, but like right.

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Yeah, and I mean ultimately, like this is about a

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real event, even if like certain you know, characters or

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like aspects of the event are like fictionalized, but like

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knowing this specific person like that's wild.

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Also, it's crazy how much the captain like looks like

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the fucking captain. It's so creepy. Ooh the captain. Yeah,

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I took a picture of like his quote, whoa, yeah,

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Like they're like the same fucking person. It's crazy. Wow.

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His quote was, I could not conceive of any vital

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disaster happening to the specil. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that,

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which is very uh very haunting in high site, which

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everyone thought that it was the unthinkable ship.

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Right, yeah, that was that was its whole thing. Hmm.

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Okay.

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So I was just curious because one of the things

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that comes up about Ida stress is that she was

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like her body was never recovered, right, And I was

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like wow, like as a first class passenger, like obviously

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her and her husband they were a little bit older,

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and they decided no, like we want to die together

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if like, if that's what's on the table is death,

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like we're going to just stay together. I was just curious,

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like how many people were recovered, because every person that

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I've looked at it makes a note of like recovered

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or it notably says not recovered. A total of three

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hundred and thirty seven bodies were recovered from the Titanic

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disaster out of roughly fifteen hundred people who died.

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Yeah, yeah, not a lot where. I mean, they had

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a hard time even finding the ships. So I can imagine, Okay,

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so you want to hear a little I have some more,

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have a lot more. Yeah. There was a survivor named

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Dorothy Winnifred Gibson, and she started a movie that released

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May twelfth, nineteen twelve, so literally less than a month after,

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and it's called Saved from the Titanic, And she was

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wearing the literal same dress she wore during the sinking

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to like reenact this whoa. And I can't even imagine

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like how traumatizing that would be, Like you're not even

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a month out. I mean that's when the dy released,

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so it was like literally right after.

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I feel like for a lot of people, though, the

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idea that you would be like traumatized, like it's not

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that it didn't happen, but people just like they just

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discounted it. They just discarded any you know, you just

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stuff it down.

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Yeah. Oh so I can't I don't know, I can't

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imagine doing that. But yeah, so that happened. It was

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how there happened. The movie was successful, but not as

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successful as Kate and Leo's version, well obviously unfortunately, but

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probably because it was more I feel like it was

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maybe more document documentary style. I'm not sure.

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Actually, oh I could see that.

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Yeah, I obviously haven't watched it and I didn't look

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up anything about it, so I don't. Yeah. So they

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also had a sign up that was kind of dedicating

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this exhibit in memory of pH Nargiale. He led the

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first recovery expedition to the Titanic in nineteen eighty seven,

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so that was the first time they went down. Wow,

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after they found it, so two years after they actually

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found it, it's crazy. He went on to lead five

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more recovery expeditions over the years, and many of the

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artifacts in this exhibit were actually recovered by the fifteen

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that's crazy. Yeah. He held the record for thirty seven

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submersible dives to the Titanic recksite, but on his thirty

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eighth dive June eighteenth, twenty twenty three, Ocean Gates Titans

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submersible imploded due to a structural issue, killing all five passengers. Yeah,

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which I feel like this is something in the very

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recent news that we all kind of knew about. Yeah,

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I guess I didn't really realize who he was though.

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I didn't realize he was responsible for like all of

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these artifacts being recovered. Yeah, because there was a lot

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of nasty shit going around about that, and I'm not

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going to get into that, but yeah, people have their

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thoughts and feelings about it, which I think what you want.

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It's still sad people died, it is. The news story

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I watched though, was pretty interesting though, because it said

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that the they had sensors that did detect the structural

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issue about eight dives previously, so technically could have been avoided,

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which is very unfortunate.

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I actually have looked into this. I have thought about

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it and I and I might. I just haven't like

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do anitted but deep dive.

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Yeah, submersible. If you need to do a deep dive

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on it, I will not be upset. Well, I'll be

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upset yeah, but I do kind of want to know

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more about it because I just watch like a little

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news clip. Yeah.

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So, I mean the thing about the titan submersible, like

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you kind of already said, it's like that was such

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an avoidable tragedy, like at a criminal level in more

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than one way.

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Yeah.

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And the fact that the company was called Ocean Gate,

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it's got gate in the name. I mean, it just

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feels like it was foreshadowing.

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That's kind of that kind of sucks. So at the

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end of the exhibit, there was a wall of local

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stories related to the Titanic, so local as in the PNW,

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which I got so excited about because obviously, so at

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the beginning, I've been wanting to talk about the Titanic,

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but I'm like, how am I going to relate this

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HI to the p and W? And then Amsy just

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delivered me up this little platter and was like here

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you go. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure it even googled,

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like is the PW related in any way? But like

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it's so broad that you'd have to I feel like

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you'd have to know specific passengers or something. Yeah. So

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Herman Klaber forty one was one of the most prominent

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hop dealers and growers in the United States. He was

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known as the hop King HOPK, which is very PNWO

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of him. So PNW. Herman and his cousins started clayber

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Wolf and Netter that became one of the largest hop

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enterprises in the world. Whoa wow. And they operated out

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of San Francisco, Portland, Tacoma. In London. Oh okay, well

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there you go. He then founded Herman, claybur and Co.

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In Washington and Oregon and acquired a two hundred acre

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hop branch in Lewis County, Washington only, and there he

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established the community of clayb oh in nineteen oh six.

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I don't know if they're still I assume they're sold.

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Is this like the unincorporated communities?

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Yeah, I mean, or you know, it's possible the name changed.

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Yeah since then, you guys have to look it up

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on your own. Yeah, episodes too long side quest. In

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nineteen oh eight, Herman relocated his headquarters to Portland, where

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he lived at the Highland Court Apartments, which I just googled.

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There are are still Highland Court Apartments. I'm not sure

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if they're the same. Yeah, yeah, a little too much

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of a thread to pull at. But yeah, so that'd

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be cool though if they're like still around, I.

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Know, can you imagine, because there's a lot.

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Of old like apartment buildings in their island. Oh, that's

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so cool. He intentionally delayed his return home to experience

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the Titanic's made in voyage. Herman tragically perished in the

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sinking in his body was never recovered.

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Oh well, yeah, because they recovered such a small percentage

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of the.

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Non survivors. Then we're going to talk about another couple,

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the Warrens not ed and Lorraine. You guys, this is

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Frank and Anna. They were in their sixties. They were

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prominent members of Portland's elite society. Let me drink my

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wine with my pink. Oh oh, the lead and Anna

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to Frank and Anna, Pinky's out for Frank and Anna.

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Frank founded Warren Packing Co, a canning and shipping enterprise

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that became one of the Pacific Northwest leading operations. They

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booked passage on Titanic to return home after a luxurious

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trip for their fortieth wedding anniversary. Oh my god, shut

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the fuck up. I know. On the night of April fourteenth,

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they were awoken in their first class cabin by a

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sharp jolt, but Frank assured Anna that there was no

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danger because the Titanic could not see. That's sound thinkable.

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Oh my gold.

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As we know that was not the case. Anna boarded

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the second lifeboat to launch. Frank, however, was not able

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to board, and like many victims, his body was never recovered.

470
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No nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I know their fortieth

471
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.279
wedding anniversary. They're in their sixties.

472
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:05.160
No, no, no, that's so sad.

473
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.240
Oh my god. All right, do you want to move

474
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:13.680
on to maybe some more like funner things.

475
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.519
To talk about, possibly only the funnest, more funner, because

476
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:22.000
this is getting sad and I I'm done. Okayeah, that's

477
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.200
just it's awful. It's awful because and I don't know

478
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:31.880
how historically accurate this is, because I haven't researched this recently,

479
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.440
but like the fact that a lot of women boarded

480
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:42.160
those lifeboats and they were telling people, we're just doing

481
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:42.839
this as.

482
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.480
A precaution, right they were to.

483
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.200
Heelp, that's my understanding again, and.

484
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.720
You know, filling them up like the first one had

485
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.119
like what twenty seven out of but I think it

486
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.160
was like one hundred and sixty people could fit on

487
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.960
the lifeboat and have like twenty seven people. That's so crazy.

488
00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:58.240
Yeah.

489
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.039
People were like, I don't want to get out.

490
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:03.519
Of the big boat, right, Yeah, but I mean that's

491
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.400
what happens when you're not truly aware.

492
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.119
Of like what the threat level is. Yeah, I wouldn't

493
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.480
trust it. Get me off this fucking.

494
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:17.680
Boat, seriously, but I mean grown up with hindsight, so well. Yeah,

495
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.680
I mean you're getting on a smaller boat in the

496
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:24.440
middle of the ocean. I could understand some trees station. Yes,

497
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.799
I'm really curious. The Titanic was equipped with twenty lifeboats

498
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:35.240
with a total capacity of eleven hundred and seventy eight people.

499
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:42.119
The fourteen standard wooden boats would hold sixty five people each, too,

500
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:48.680
smaller cutters hold forty each, and four collapsibles hold forty

501
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:49.480
seven each.

502
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.000
Okay, oh my god.

503
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.839
It's been a while since I have looked at the

504
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.920
stats on this, but it's rough. There are like, this

505
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.319
is clearly one of those things where it's like and

506
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:09.119
this is why there are safety regulations. Because the total

507
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:13.000
capacity of the lifeboats only accounted for about half of

508
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.960
the twenty two hundred people on board.

509
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.720
Yeah, wow. And the fact that they weren't even filling

510
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.400
them up. Nope. To begin with, it's crazy.

511
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.440
While they could hold eleven hundred and seventy eight people,

512
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:34.200
only seven hundred twelve people were saved, meaning four hundred

513
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.799
and seventy two spots went unused.

514
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:39.759
Oh my god.

515
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.200
The total capacity of eleven seventy eight was actually thirty

516
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.920
nine percent higher than the regulations required at the time.

517
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.960
What so this was them actually doing more?

518
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.480
Wow. I didn't know that part. I didn't either. Why

519
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.000
would it just be a like duh, we should have

520
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.440
a seat for every person on board, right. I Also,

521
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.319
the amount.

522
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.319
Of crew that like passed away was so sad. Yeah,

523
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:16.799
that's insane. They may have had like a higher capacity

524
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.279
than was required at the time, but they did not

525
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:23.000
make good use of it. Like, and I think suffice

526
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.640
to say, like, I think we all understand that clearly

527
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.839
mistakes were made, but like, yeah, it just makes no sense.

528
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.160
It's just so upsetting. Okay, Like I said, let's get

529
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.079
into some other things. Okay, So since this is a

530
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:48.200
paranormal podcast, I have something else to share with you. Ah.

531
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.279
And this is kind of spooky because if I had

532
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.200
written this episode when I was supposed to like the

533
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.319
week prior, I might not have seen this.

534
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:01.559
Really so and that fascination really close to the anniversary, I.

535
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.720
Know, Yeah, procrastination works out just that way. What are

536
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:06.640
you gonna do?

537
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:11.480
You know, sometimes just happens, Lloyd, it's both say it so.

538
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.680
April fourteenth, twenty twenty six, on the one hundred and

539
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:22.799
fourteenth anniversary of the Titanic sinking, a storm Chicago heavy

540
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.759
rain caused the Titanic exhibit at the Volo Museum to flood.

541
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.200
Shut the fuck up. Isn't that crazy?

542
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:32.920
I what?

543
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:39.200
So it's like I'm laughing because it's it's just that crazy,

544
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.799
so eerie. This is a quote from Jim, the marketing

545
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.079
director of the museum. Okay, the irony of any Titanic

546
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.039
exhibit flooding is strange enough, but the fact that ours

547
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.880
flooded on the exact anniversary of the Titanic sinking is

548
00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:02.559
more ironic. It's almost paranormal, they even think. But that's

549
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.839
a little too. And the interesting thing is this is

550
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.880
not the only time it's flooded. E squeeze me. It

551
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:16.039
flooded on their opening year as well, Oh my gosh,

552
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.920
and previously no other record of the building flooding at

553
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:21.720
all only these two times.

554
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.839
Okay, so I'm starting to think like maybe, you know.

555
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:31.799
Like maybe the building's getting old.

556
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.599
Yeah, yeah, maybe that's sure, let's go with that.

557
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.680
But on the opening year and the one hundred and

558
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.680
fourteenth anniversary, I don't know, Man, it's weird. I know, man,

559
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.680
museum staff was able to protect the priceless artifacts though,

560
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.200
so nothing was damaged in the flood, which is great

561
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:55.599
because there's like cars in there, really old cars and

562
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:57.519
just a bunch of things. Yeah.

563
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.960
I would just think that, like it would be the

564
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:06.720
kind of like flooding, not like a tsunami level flood.

565
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.480
It would just be like, oh no, we've got six

566
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.960
inches yeah yeah, yeah, get.

567
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.400
The newspapers down. We gotta absorb that.

568
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.000
Yeah, kitty litters.

569
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.719
Somethink the exhibit could be haunted. Apparently quite a few

570
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:32.159
of the visitors have reported paranormal experiences, and they've caught

571
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:38.400
some unexplainable happenings on security cameras. I honestly think it's

572
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.400
very likely that you have these artifacts from this tragedy

573
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.920
right that there could be something paranormal happening there.

574
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.320
It feels fair to suggest that maybe there's some energy

575
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.480
that's lingering.

576
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.679
Lurking and lingering around. Yeah no, I mean not to

577
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.320
say that they're delicious and like causing a flood or

578
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.400
something like that. But I don't maybe they don't realize.

579
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.280
Maybe they don't. Maybe they don't.

580
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.079
It's just like stored or what is that like residual

581
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:14.880
energy type thing?

582
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.480
Who's so key? So Ghost Adventures did an episode there

583
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.440
which is like one of my favorite episodes, obviously because

584
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.320
it's of the of the Titanic Museum. It was a

585
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.320
really cool episode. I won't go into it, you'll just

586
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.880
have to go find it. But I was I was

587
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.079
rewatching like their rewatch of it, maybe like a screaming room.

588
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:38.599
Oh.

589
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.159
I just like quickly watched that to just like refresh

590
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:45.079
my memory of it. And Zach said that he has

591
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.079
the Captain's mirror in his Haunted Museum, which I remember.

592
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.199
Oh yeah, I saw that when I was there in

593
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:55.360
faa he and apparently he shows his face in it

594
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.639
from time to time. I did not witness this.

595
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.639
But yeah, I don't know how I feel about that.

596
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.320
I think I was pretty enamored with it though, because

597
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.320
I think that's the first artifact i'd ever seen of

598
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.400
the Titanic because I'd never been to an exhibit before anything.

599
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.599
So I was like staring at it, like, come on, captain,

600
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.760
come on, show me your face.

601
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.159
Or don't because that's cool too. What But I'd be

602
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.199
really interested to like hear stories from the staff at

603
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.000
the museum or even at Amsy. I wonder if Amsy's

604
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:32.000
experiencing anything. Yeah, with all the artifacts around. Uh So

605
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.679
I'm going to tell you a little bit about some

606
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.519
of my favorite things that I saw there. Yeah, they

607
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.400
have an iceberg that you can touch. What girl, it's

608
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:48.239
real cold? Yeah, I think barely. I could barely keep

609
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.239
my hands on it. But it was cool. It was

610
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.800
really cool because it is for kids too, and yeah,

611
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.800
it's really cool to see like all the little kids like, well,

612
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.400
it's ice so like it kills all the jar I'm sorry,

613
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.400
I don't know. It was really cold ice. Yeah, yeah,

614
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.239
I'm telling you. And I really liked things that really

615
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.239
showed like the water damage. So there was this crazy

616
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.920
one that was there was soap in a soap holder

617
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.199
and the soap is like still intact, but it looks

618
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.400
like evil soap you know that has been.

619
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:25.519
Yeah, yeah, just back, it does but it was underwater.

620
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.400
But it was crazy that it didn't just like totally

621
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.480
dissolve the way you know, right, So stuff like that

622
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.480
was really interesting to me. That is how crazy. They

623
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.920
had this like a partial back of the chair. That's

624
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.679
so weird, Like I wonder if people use that to

625
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.440
like float on, you know, maybe or tried, I don't know.

626
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:55.480
They also had coal from underwater coal. Isn't it crazy? What?

627
00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:00.199
And they actually recovered a bunch of coal from the

628
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.840
Titanic and they were selling pieces of it in the

629
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.039
gift shop. Shut up, Yes, you can't hold it. They're

630
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:15.599
like in in things. They're tiny pieces. It's like a specimen. Yeah. Yeah.

631
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.400
So and these things were expensive. They were like out

632
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:22.639
of my price price range, my price range. And I

633
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.880
was going around and I was like, man, I really

634
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.480
just wanted I wanted something from the gift shop. Yeah,

635
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:31.840
but I was like, I don't know, it has to

636
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.679
be like the perfect thing. And then once I saw

637
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.840
the coal that was like literally a piece of the

638
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.920
Titanic that they brought up from under the water, Like

639
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.159
that's crazy to me. Why aren't people like buying the

640
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:43.599
shut up?

641
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:44.840
Yeah?

642
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.639
So I was looking around, I was like, man, it's

643
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.280
got in my price range. And then I found something

644
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.760
that was in my price range shut up, and I

645
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.599
like legit cried. I was like, Okay, I can do this.

646
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:03.559
So I have a piece of coal from the Titanic.

647
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.679
Oh my gosh.

648
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.239
And it's really cute. It's in like a little steering wheel,

649
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.559
a little ship steering wheel. Oh my god. And it

650
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:23.199
comes with an authentic a certificate of authentic stations. Huh.

651
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.400
It comes with a certificate of authenticity, is what I'm

652
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.840
trying to say. It says coal use in this product

653
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.880
was recovered during the nineteen ninety four Titanic Research and

654
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:39.400
Recovery Expedition. Wow, it's real, Like this came from I

655
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.519
can't even like, I still can't.

656
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.719
That's so cool.

657
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.519
I own a piece of the Titanic. I could be haunted,

658
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.559
you guys, Well, I mean I kind of hope not.

659
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.119
I don't know what kind of energy is in this

660
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.079
little tiny piece of coal. Yeah, that's true. All those

661
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.159
poor crew members that were down there shoveling the coal, Like,

662
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.480
I feel like most of those ones did not make it.

663
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.679
Yeah no, I don't think so. So we're almost done here.

664
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.119
I just want to say, please go support AMSI if

665
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.239
you can, if you have any interest in the Titanic,

666
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.280
it's totally worth it. Okay.

667
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.639
Cool, So you can just like finish up with like

668
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.280
the terror reading on your own, right, because like, actually

669
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:18.280
I need to get.

670
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:20.559
Oh yeah yeah yeah, I actually already have a card,

671
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.559
so we don't even need to bowl one. I just

672
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:24.519
I just have a thing.

673
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.880
So it's like down at the waterfront.

674
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:34.239
Yeah, get out here. Wow. I had this idea while

675
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:39.159
I was going through my pictures. I came across a

676
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.880
playing card that they found shut up, and I just

677
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:47.599
had this Queen of Spade. It's Queen of clubs, clubs and.

678
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.000
I can't really my contacts really blurry right now.

679
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.719
That equates to the Queen of Wands in tarot oh.

680
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:58.679
I felt like maybe that's the card we should read

681
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.599
for this, because they had the one playing card in

682
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.079
the I don't know if they found more, but that's

683
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.079
only when they had in the exhibit exhibit.

684
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:16.119
Okay, our keywords are creativity, passion, prosperity, fruitfulness, and generosity.

685
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:17.559
Okay.

686
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.960
Like the King, the Queen of Wands is often pictured

687
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.679
seated on a throne wearing an elegant robe and a crown.

688
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:32.519
She's usually a beautiful, mature woman who epitomizes feminine authority, confidence, warmth,

689
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:33.920
and enthusiasm.

690
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.400
I feel like that is the Titanic A.

691
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:41.440
Little bit right interesting You should say that in a reading.

692
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:46.239
The Queen may signify an actual person. When she does,

693
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.519
it's someone who's active, vibrant, and outgoing, perhaps a woman

694
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:55.159
with a creative nature. Wow, this is really interesting. Okay, Okay.

695
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:00.320
A fortunate card the upright Queen gives you a.

696
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:01.559
Thumbs up.

697
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.480
If this card signifies a real person. She's a figure

698
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:10.719
who commands respect whether she's in the boardroom or the home.

699
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:13.280
A wise advisor.

700
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.800
She is also a loyal friend, a loving partner, a

701
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.639
trustworthy authority.

702
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.119
I feel like that's how everyone viewed this and the

703
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.119
people who are who built the ship and who are

704
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:27.639
running it.

705
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:34.559
Yeah, I feel like this is ida. Oh, because listen

706
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:39.519
to this. She has a nurturing, colorful, and generous nature.

707
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.719
She's confident in her abilities and encourages others to do

708
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.599
their best. Like the King, she may play a prominent

709
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.400
role in a business or her community. Yeah, I just

710
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.159
feel like it. You know, it says like a loving partner,

711
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.840
loyal friend, and.

712
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.159
I don't know, oh something about that.

713
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.440
It just feels like she literally gave this like fur

714
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:10.639
coat to you know, one of her maids and put

715
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.199
her on the lifeboat and was like, get the actual

716
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:14.000
fuck out of here.

717
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:15.400
That's so sweet, I know.

718
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.880
In a question about money, the Queen says, do what

719
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.639
you love, the money will follow. You may receive money

720
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:28.039
from a creative venture or prosper through partnership or other alliance.

721
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.320
Interesting if you asked about a job matter, The Upright

722
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.400
Queen shows a period of fulfillment when a project bears

723
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.159
fruit and you're happy with the outcome. This is also

724
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.199
a good time to birth or expand a venture.

725
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:49.000
Oh go on a maiden voyage might not be such

726
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.440
a good time. I'm wondering. I'm curious what like The

727
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.719
reverse says too, Yeah, we don't know how they found

728
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.679
the card should thank.

729
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.440
One sentence for the other for the final bullet, which

730
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.760
is always about like love and relationships. In a reading

731
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:12.000
about a relationship, she shows a passionate romance between loyal,

732
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:13.639
loving partners.

733
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:19.039
Oh that could be the Strausses, that could be the Warrens,

734
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:20.760
that could be Jack and Rose.

735
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.519
M Okay, so there's an extra excerpt In this too,

736
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.559
the Queen of Wan's represents a vital, passionate, and aggressive

737
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.199
female who wants to help other people.

738
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:34.400
Through her efforts.

739
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.920
Oh though she appears to be fighting those who cross

740
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:42.760
her path, she is a true champion of those she supports.

741
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:48.280
That reminds me of like Margaret Brown, the Unthinkable, Molly

742
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.639
Brown or whatever, who was like a real person. They

743
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.320
had a bunch of posters about her too, But she

744
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.440
was like that, and she like even took over the

745
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.480
lifeboat that she was on because the the person who

746
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:03.480
was running it was acting a moron, an idiot. I

747
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.199
don't know what here was a man in the nineteen twelve.

748
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.880
I feel like in the movie he wanted to like

749
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.119
go back and save people, but they were afraid that

750
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.000
they were going to like sink. Yeah, I don't know

751
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.039
if she like took it over and did she helped

752
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.199
people though she like took over their lifeboat.

753
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.559
I feel like I remember exactly. I think that was

754
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:26.239
the situation is they didn't they weren't. They were all

755
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.719
debating sort of whether or not they should go back

756
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.880
and help try to rescue people from the water, and

757
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.440
they were like, if they rushed the boat, we could

758
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.920
all end up being capsized, which is you know, it's

759
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:37.960
a very like practical fear.

760
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.920
Or you have room and there's all those people dying

761
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:41.239
out there.

762
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.199
Yeah, and you already have four hundred and seventy two

763
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.639
spots on the boats that weren't filled at all, So

764
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:48.039
there's that.

765
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.280
Yeah. Yeah, so that's interesting. I didn't really talk about

766
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.679
her because there was so much to talk about, but.

767
00:45:54.079 --> 00:46:00.239
Yeah, so this is interesting because the reverse is when

768
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.840
the Queen of Wands is reversed. She can mean a

769
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.679
situation won't come to fruition as fast as you'd hoped,

770
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.119
or your satisfaction will be limited, your enthusiasm may flag,

771
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.239
or you just don't feel inspired. If she's a real person,

772
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.800
she's a powerful, emotional woman who demands respect and absolute loyalty.

773
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.519
She can be jealous and manipulative, both in love and

774
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.960
in business. Don't cross her. This is the drama Queen

775
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:35.119
car Oh shit. So I think if the upright is Ida,

776
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:40.639
the reverse is actually the physical ship. I think in

777
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.320
a reading about money, the reverse Queen warns you to

778
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:48.119
be careful with investments or business spending, particularly in joint ventures.

779
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.159
If you've asked about a job related issue, she may

780
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.480
indicate deception or power struggles. Watch your back. A co

781
00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:59.320
worker may not be trustworthy.

782
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.840
No, are not? Or this could be the titan submerciabule.

783
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.599
Well there's that.

784
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.800
In a relationship reading, she may suggest emotional upsets, infidelity,

785
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.039
or a cooling of affection.

786
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:23.320
Cooling like if you hit an iceberg. Yeah, is that it? Yeah?

787
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.719
Oh, I know, I mean wanted more.

788
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.239
I know I'm disappointed. No, not, that was a good card, though,

789
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.079
I felt like mm hmm yeah. Yeah, Well I can

790
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.760
tell you about one more funny thing that I didn't add,

791
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.840
but I wrote it down just in case we needed

792
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.159
some more to talk about.

793
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.679
Okay, are you gonna pull another card? No, I was

794
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.760
going to see what the card is for a point

795
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.360
of ones, because we may as well still show this

796
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:54.039
card too.

797
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.280
I feel like, you know, oh, that is a good idea. Okay, Oh,

798
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.679
it's a black cat, two different colored eyes, one.

799
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:10.039
Of them's blue. Yeah, like the O ships. It's just

800
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.079
really short and stupid.

801
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.679
But it like caught my funny bone a little bit,

802
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:18.280
so they kept They kept talking about rusticles. Rusticles which

803
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.559
are selactite like structures that are formed when iron lovy

804
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:26.000
bacteria attack the steel so it's like those those like

805
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.039
ice icicles. I think you there are icicles of rust.

806
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.880
Basically that's so crazy, and they are they will eventually

807
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.360
destroy the ship. Yeah, so it won't always be there,

808
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.880
which is like right, kind of like why you should

809
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.800
go to these exhibits and like see because they do

810
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.679
show like underwater footage of it and pictures and things,

811
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.199
because it won't always be there. Yeah, But they kept

812
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.039
they kept talking about the rusticals. And then there's this

813
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:56.840
one part that it said the phrase rustical analysis. And

814
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:02.920
I couldnot stop saying a rustical analysis, rustical analysis. That

815
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:08.320
is crazy. So I will forever be saying rustical analysis.

816
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:16.159
I love that, so big, y'all. Okay, I don't know

817
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.519
some of the like some of the imagery that this

818
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.559
evokes for me. I mean, I realize it's a cat.

819
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.440
It's not like an aquatic thing. But I think you'll

820
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:33.440
I don't know, Okay, you'll see, Okay, action tempered by insight,

821
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:43.119
connection to one's true self, vivacity and intuition, confidence, vanity, haughtiness,

822
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:50.239
a witch. Some towns have a nightmare. This one has

823
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:54.960
a night queen. By day, you might not even notice her.

824
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.800
A black shape lounging on the porch of an old craftsman,

825
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.719
A sleek shadow avoid.

826
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.599
In Iceberg, in the middle of the ocean at night,

827
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:12.000
she comes alive, melding with pools of darkness as she

828
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:16.880
moves liquidly through her realm. Whoa.

829
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.280
Her element is night, and she is in her element.

830
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.440
She has an image to uphold, and she makes a

831
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.480
show of it as she struts along an avenue. Her

832
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:35.880
subjects respect her and fear her. They flee or freeze

833
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:41.599
in obeisance before her WHOA. On these occasions, when she

834
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:46.159
deigns to let them hear her coming, they know their

835
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:48.760
lives are in her claws.

836
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:50.960
Iceberg right ahead.

837
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:59.960
She is by turns, powerful and ethereal, crafty and mischievous, women,

838
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:08.599
musical and wicked. She acts and her will manifests. Damn, dude,

839
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:10.159
that's kind of creepy.

840
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.360
Yeah, I don't know. I got Iceberg vibes.

841
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:18.000
Yeah, it's a really pretty card. I think this is

842
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:19.519
fox gloves.

843
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:24.840
Oh yeah, pretty. I love how it just a cat.

844
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.719
It doesn't even say kind of cat. Yeah it is.

845
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:34.719
It's fox glove. Yeah, which is deadly as hey. It's interesting.

846
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.079
It talked about the night time too, because I mean

847
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.280
obviously it happened at night.

848
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.719
Yeah, I know, that's what I was kind of thinking too.

849
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:49.079
Oh man, that's crazy. Well did you guys like that episode?

850
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.639
Have you gone to AMSI Jimny Hauntings? Do you have

851
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.280
a piece of coal from the Titanic? Let us know

852
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.000
it's a flower. By the way, it's not that we

853
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.079
didn't steal gloves from a fox who is cold.

854
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:07.840
Yeah, f yi, unconscionable. They also call it ladies glove

855
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.239
or rusty fox.

856
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.880
Glove, rustical analysis.

857
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:19.519
Digitalis It's like there's all these different classifications of it

858
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:24.480
and they're all digitalists d D. Yeah, it's interesting, like

859
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.719
digits like your fingers. Yeah, yeah, kind of. There's one

860
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:33.440
named pantaloons. I feel like I just want to go

861
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.280
down like a really strange rabbit hole.

862
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.400
Yeah, that's like one of my favorite words too, really honestly.

863
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.519
Like the other thing that kind of struck me is

864
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:52.280
like the picture on the on the card from the

865
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:58.000
PNW deck, Like they're reddish looking fox gloves, which makes.

866
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.599
Me think of a rustical a rustical Yeah.

867
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.960
Analysis, restical analysis.

868
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:09.400
I will never stop. Digitalis the probable analysis, digitalis banaloon.

869
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:14.599
I feel like some words just get stuck in your

870
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.119
head and yeah, you just have to say them.

871
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.239
And fully, we just made our own, Like I feel

872
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.599
like that's pretty much what they did for all of

873
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:26.039
like the Harry Potter spells, you know what I mean.

874
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:30.519
It was just like make up something vaguely Latin sounding.

875
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:37.679
It all sound like vagina parts. Yeah, pretty much. All right,

876
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:39.480
Well let's think.

877
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.400
Yeah, otherwise I'll pee my pants and we can do

878
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:46.360
together because we were together Together's see if we still.

879
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:51.159
Got it a creepy day. We'll see you next Thursday.

880
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.639
Rostacle analysis