Cold-Blooded in Colorado & a Strange Russian Sojourn

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,120If the president opts to grant Jeffrey's request, it will be impossible for him to be extradited200:00:13,120 --> 00:00:22,000to the U.S. as Russia's Constitution does not allow for extradition of its own citizens.300:00:22,000 --> 00:00:40,000[Music]400:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000Hi Cassie.500:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000Hello, Caitlyn.600:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000Hey creepy people.700:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000Hello!800:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000Hello!900:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,600If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we1000:00:51,600 --> 00:00:57,600chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.1100:00:57,600 --> 00:01:04,880Yeah. We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into the topic.1200:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,600And, you know, you're going to want to probably stick around for that.1300:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,600I think it's a pretty good insight.1400:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600Yeah. Did I tell you?1500:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,600We actually got a question from a listener about the tarot reading.1600:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,600We did?1700:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,600Yeah.1800:01:21,600 --> 00:01:28,600We had someone that asked if we had ever started episodes with the tarot reading.1900:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,600Oh yes, we did use to.2000:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,600We did.2100:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,600Yeah.2200:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,600How long ago?2300:01:34,600 --> 00:01:41,600Yeah. So I was explaining sort of the logic that you came around to as you were editing and how it was like,2400:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,600"Man, it seems like we kind of have to just go through and read it all over again when we get to the end."2500:01:47,600 --> 00:01:56,600And why not just save it until the end and then both of us know what the topic is and it's really been gangbusters ever since.2600:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,600Uh-huh. It made our powers more powerful.2700:02:00,600 --> 00:02:10,600I knew as soon as you said that I was like, "She is going to be like, 'Shit, I did not think that phrase through!'2800:02:10,600 --> 00:02:23,600See? Oh boy. Even though I said we talk about spooky stuff in the Pacific Northwest, this is not a spooky episode. Don't get confused.2900:02:23,600 --> 00:02:31,600Oh yes, that's fair. They were like, "Well, she said spooky this time and I'm wondering if it's spooky."3000:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,600And no, it's not.3100:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,600I lied. Sometimes I lie.3200:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,600Yeah. Always on purpose. I mean, I said it.3300:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,600How dare you bastardize my phrase.3400:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,600[laughs]3500:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,600Are you ready?3600:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,600That's a loaded-ass question today.3700:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,600Yeah, no. We're not. We're not ready.3800:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,600I did not wake up ready. I'll tell you that.3900:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,600No. She did not wake up like this.4000:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,600I should probably say I did because I looked terrible. So this is fine.4100:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,600All right. I'm going to get right into it.4200:03:03,600 --> 00:03:12,600Charlene Voight was reported missing from Littleton Colorado by her family on July 8, 2016.4300:03:12,600 --> 00:03:25,600At the time, her sister and the rest of the family had not spoken to her for several days, which was very unusual, even given the recent holiday weekend, which is never a great sign.4400:03:25,600 --> 00:03:38,600She shares no relation to the World War II veteran that also made local news in 2021 after his dog tags were discovered in the Grand River back in '21.4500:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,600Oh my gosh.4600:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,600Yes. But I was left with an incredibly eerie feeling as I researched this case.4700:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,600Hear me out.4800:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,600Okay.4900:03:49,600 --> 00:03:59,600The dog tags in question belong to Clifford J. Voigt, slightly different spelling.5000:03:59,600 --> 00:04:13,600And I'm obviously going to digress to say that I'm completely overcome with giddiness at the idea of dog tags belonging to a man named Clifford being discovered.5100:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600Oh, that is so cute.5200:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,600I know.5300:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,600I'm going to digress to say that I'm a little bit more than I thought.5400:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,600I'm going to digress to say that I'm a little bit more than I thought.5500:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,600I'm going to digress to say that I'm a little bit more than I thought.5600:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,600I'm going to digress to say that I'm a little bit more than I thought.5700:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,600I'm going to digress to say that I'm a little bit more than I thought.5800:04:39,600 --> 00:04:50,600Though I'd argue that the discovery of dog tags far from the banks of the river is hardly a story that we can necessarily assume ended well.5900:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,600No.6000:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,600Yeah.6100:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,600He was washing his face and then they slipped off into the river, right?6200:04:58,600 --> 00:05:08,600Anyways, I have to ask, is it just me or does the thought of finding anything in a river lead everyone to escalated threat level type thinking?6300:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,600I think so.6400:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,600Okay.6500:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,600Probably just me, but I don't think it's a fear of the water.6600:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,600I don't think it's just you though.6700:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,600It's not.6800:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,600It's eerie finding stuff, you know?6900:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,600Anywhere, just like laying anywhere, seeing a shoe, you're like, anything could have happened.7000:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,600Yeah, I just, I think the fact that it's dog tags too, like that doesn't really belong there.7100:05:30,600 --> 00:05:40,600And like if you're parted from your dog tags in a river, I think it speaks to something, you know, maybe not so awesome happening potentially.7200:05:40,600 --> 00:05:51,600But I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief, Clifford, the veteran, not the cartoon canine was originally from Grand Rapids.7300:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,600And he has since been laid to rust in Mesa, Arizona seemingly peacefully.7400:05:58,600 --> 00:06:10,600I was left with the impression that no reasonable or disquieting concerns regarding foul play of any kind or an accidental drowning where a factor in his passing.7500:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600So I at least feel better about that.7600:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,600That's good.7700:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,600Yeah.7800:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,600That's interesting. He's from Grand Rapids. He found his dog tags in some rapids.7900:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600Yeah, it is weird.8000:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,600There's a lot of weird connections here.8100:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,600I didn't even make that one until you said that just now.8200:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,600Are we just spiraling in everything's a connection?8300:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,600Yeah, we, that's kind of the name of the game here.8400:06:34,600 --> 00:06:44,600I cut out a couple of other things that I was like, oh, and it just was like, no, nobody, no one has the time.8500:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,600But I'm afraid my illusion to a big red dog just now.8600:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,600Well, that's as close to love and light as this story is likely to stray.8700:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,600Unfortunately, particularly for man's best friend.8800:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,600I hate you. I know. I'm so sorry.8900:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,600How did these things happen?9000:07:05,600 --> 00:07:13,600I didn't realize that there was anything that was going to make you unhappy about a dog until after I was almost9100:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,600three quarters of the way through researching and writing this.9200:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,600You know, you claim this, but I'm pretty sure you just Google dead dogs and true crime cases.9300:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,600And that's how you pick them now.9400:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,600I, that's not accurate, but way to upset the listeners, Cassie.9500:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,600I forgive you.9600:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,600I hope so.9700:07:32,600 --> 00:07:41,600At the time of her disappearance, Charlene was a 36 year old woman and a recent graduate of Cal Poly Pomona.9800:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,600She majored in landscape architecture.9900:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,600Oh, that's a really cool major.10000:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,600And I, when she graduated, she moved away from her home and her family in California10100:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,600and resettled in Colorado as she entered a new phase of her life.10200:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,600Kind of a new phase of her life.10300:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,600It certainly had plenty of promise based on this limited data set.10400:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,600At least that's what I would have thought.10500:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,600Her boyfriend, Jeffrey Byer, also happened to live in Colorado at the time.10600:08:15,600 --> 00:08:21,600So it seems fair to say that he probably had a little something to do with her decision to pack up and move.10700:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600Oh, I see. 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00:10:22,600That's very valuable service to provide.18500:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,600It is.18600:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,800The whole waste disposal thing is going to circle back in the sort of formulaic and predictable18700:10:29,800 --> 00:10:36,240way that even lifetime movie writers would think was just a little bit too cheesy or too18800:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,840much of a trope.18900:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,160This sort of feels like the universe getting a funny little jab in on who this dude turns19000:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,600out to be.19100:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,600Reportedly.19200:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,600Allegedly.19300:10:46,600 --> 00:10:53,160Because at this time, I'm unaware of any unequivocal resolution in this case.19400:10:53,160 --> 00:10:59,680I have to say things like reportedly and allegedly, which is deeply painful and offensive19500:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,200to my psyche.19600:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,600I have a lot of respect for anyone that tackles a job like this that requires a certain19700:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,840fortitude of the old factory senses.19800:11:10,840 --> 00:11:17,200But this guy is the hot garbage juice in this case.19900:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,200You.20000:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,560It's one of my favorite phrases to express distaste for just about anything.20100:11:24,560 --> 00:11:28,200Not that I'm claiming ownership to the phrase or any other.20200:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,680Well, except maybe hashtag never Bundy.20300:11:31,680 --> 00:11:32,680Yeah.20400:11:32,680 --> 00:11:33,680Yeah.20500:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,720Speaking of hashtag never Bundy, you're welcome.20600:11:36,720 --> 00:11:43,400You get an introduction to the inner workings of my brain inserting a completely unapologetic20700:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,960plug right now.20800:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,200Not an ad.20900:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080Just an ADHD moment.21000:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,240Going get the book Bright Young Women by Jessica Knoll if you haven't already.21100:11:54,240 --> 00:12:00,720We received an advance copy, which I really hope will just be a thing now for us because21200:12:00,720 --> 00:12:06,600I love books and the best kind are those that are from fantastic writers for free 99.21300:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,240It's a really good book so far.21400:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,840But we also ordered it on Audible as well.21500:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,840Yes.21600:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,800They may have known what they were doing.21700:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,560Based on my early girl, math projections, I'm confident in saying it was worth every21800:12:23,560 --> 00:12:24,640cent.21900:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,200You guys know how I feel about feelings.22000:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,880Cassie and I are making our way through the book and it has been such an intense slow building22100:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,400thriller and an emotional roller coaster, depending on who you ask.22200:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,400Yeah.22300:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,640So please read the book and join us for our Patreon book club.22400:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,760We'll be announcing the date for that livestream shortly.22500:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,440If we haven't already.22600:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,360We'll add a link to the book and as always for the Patreon in the show notes.22700:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,960Can we change it to hashtag never the defendant?22800:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,960Oh my god.22900:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,960Yeah.23000:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,440You'll have to read the book to figure that one out.23100:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,440Oh my god.23200:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,440Amazing.23300:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,960Never the defendant.23400:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,920Back to Jeffrey.23500:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,320Police were called to the shared residence of Charlene and Jeffrey.23600:13:13,320 --> 00:13:20,560He did answer the door, but only spoke to responding officers outside after closing the door23700:13:20,560 --> 00:13:27,160to the residence.23800:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,160Okay.23900:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,800In his retelling of recent events at the time, he told officers that he had fought with Charlene24000:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,000in the evening leading up to the holiday.24100:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,800He stated that she had wanted to party.24200:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,800Who doesn't?24300:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,800Mm-hmm.24400:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,800I know.24500:13:44,800 --> 00:13:51,800He had to work over the weekend and was unable to partake in the festivities.24600:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,920Poor guy.24700:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,920Yeah.24800:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,720Is anyone else lifting their eyebrow skeptically?24900:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,200I sure am.25000:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,880Prior to Charlene's disappearance, the couple reportedly went out with friends drinking25100:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120on June 30th.25200:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,240The night's activities included the four hitting the slopes as well.25300:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,240And by that, I mean doing cocaine.25400:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,240Okay.25500:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,240It's July.25600:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,240Mm-hmm.25700:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,240Yeah.25800:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,240Okay.25900:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,240I know that would be weird.26000:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,960I thought maybe you'd get it if I said it and I was like, it's July.26100:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560She's going to understand they're not actually skiing, right?26200:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,560I don't know Colorado.26300:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,560I don't know either.26400:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,320There's some high spots that maybe have snow in July.26500:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,320I don't know.26600:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,320High spots.26700:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,320Get it.26800:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,880I'm just certain that's what all the kids are saying these days though.26900:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,880Hitting the slopes.27000:14:37,880 --> 00:14:38,880I don't know.27100:14:38,880 --> 00:14:39,880Yeah.27200:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,880I don't know.27300:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,880Don't you drugs?27400:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,880Yeah.27500:14:42,880 --> 00:14:48,880Unfortunately, the evening took a dark turn when a seemingly agitated Jeffrey pulled the27600:14:48,880 --> 00:14:55,520female half of the other couple that had joined them into another room where he promptly27700:14:55,520 --> 00:15:01,760locked the door and held her allegedly sexually assaulting her.27800:15:01,760 --> 00:15:08,120On July 10th, Jeffrey gives a formal statement to investigators at the police station regarding27900:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,240Charlene's apparent disappearance several days prior.28000:15:13,240 --> 00:15:19,800Just days later on July 12th, Jeffrey is arrested for the unnamed female friend's sexual28100:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,440assault.28200:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,960It should also be noted that Charlene's family shared additional information with local28300:15:26,960 --> 00:15:33,680authorities in Colorado following law enforcement's initial visit to their shared home to question28400:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,920Jeffrey.28500:15:35,920 --> 00:15:44,600Charlene had filed a restraining order against Jeffrey dating back to 2012 when they were28600:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040both living in California.28700:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,040Oh, wow.28800:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,840So this isn't a new thing.28900:15:51,840 --> 00:15:57,480She described an episode of physical abuse lasting upwards of 20 minutes that made her29000:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,840fear for her life in his presence.29100:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,880Charlene had said of the altercation, I thought I was going to die.29200:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,200Luckily, he finally stopped and went to bed.29300:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,960Jeff baked me not to call the cops on him since he knew that this would put him in jail29400:16:14,960 --> 00:16:22,000for a long time due to his past history of physically assaulting other women.29500:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,040Oh, no, please don't tell them I did it again.29600:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,040Mm-hmm.29700:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,040Fuck, man.29800:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,360Jeffrey did in fact have a history of abuse dating back to at least 2007 involving his29900:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,080ex-wife as well.30000:16:38,080 --> 00:16:44,120Ultimately, he pleaded guilty in the domestic violence incident and served jail time board30100:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,120in 2013.30200:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,120Not enough.30300:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,120Mm-hmm.30400:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,000Nope.30500:16:50,000 --> 00:16:56,040This prompted an emergency ping to be issued for Charlene's phone shortly after she was30600:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,400reported missing.30700:16:58,400 --> 00:17:04,000Both law enforcement and her family were so concerned for her safety in light of, I30800:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,480don't know, recent events.30900:17:06,480 --> 00:17:14,320And then, you know, once they had the entirety of the terrifying multi-state backstory.31000:17:14,320 --> 00:17:20,640The report they received showed that her most recent activity had taken place on July31100:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,6801st near the apartment that she shared with Jeffrey.31200:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,440That was her last activity.31300:17:28,440 --> 00:17:37,880Charlene's phone last transmitted to a tower at 4965 South Rio Grand Street.31400:17:37,880 --> 00:17:43,960No subsequent activity was reported on her device.31500:17:43,960 --> 00:17:51,520The couple shared apartment address was also on Rio Grande Street, where the neighbor31600:17:51,520 --> 00:17:57,240reported hearing sounds that may have been an indication of a disturbance in the neighboring31700:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,840unit belonging to Charlene and Jeffrey.31800:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,840You know, unless they wake up early to rearrange the furniture in their apartment.31900:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,840Huh.32000:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,280It's possible my upstairs neighbors typically do at least once or twice a week, but...32100:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,680I hope nothing shady is going on up there, Jesus.32200:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,920I think about it all the goddamn time.32300:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,120I think you have a log next year, but like writing down the kind of sound in what time.32400:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,720It's not a bad idea.32500:18:27,720 --> 00:18:33,460Circling back, the charges related to the alleged sexual assault were eventually dropped in32600:18:33,460 --> 00:18:38,440service to the prosecutors working on Charlene's case.32700:18:38,440 --> 00:18:44,600The cases were so intertwined, if they moved ahead with the charges related to the alleged32800:18:44,600 --> 00:18:51,560sexual assault, they would have been required to turn over basically everything they had32900:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,000during discovery.33000:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,520Everything they had in a future murder case.33100:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,520Oh.33200:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,440And let's face it, it's less than ideal for a future murder trial to have already shown33300:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,440your hand.33400:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,440Yeah.33500:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,600It would be a major tactical disadvantage for the state in all likelihood.33600:19:12,600 --> 00:19:19,000Although, and you'll see why at the end here, maybe we go...33700:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,720Maybe we circle back again.33800:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,840Now, maybe we just charge him for the sexual assault as well.33900:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,840Yeah.34000:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,080Maybe we do that.34100:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,040That was the sexual assault on the friend?34200:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,040Yes.34300:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,040Oh my gosh.34400:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,360How awful for her though, too.34500:19:33,360 --> 00:19:37,040This happened her, now it's not nothing's happening with it.34600:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,080Yeah, legally nothing happened.34700:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,080Oh God.34800:19:40,080 --> 00:19:46,280But I think even fairly early on in the case, everyone involved could see where Charlene's34900:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,760case was headed, despite the fact that Charlene had not been found.35000:19:52,760 --> 00:20:01,200According to the August 2019 indictment released on Monday, June 1st, 2020, so almost35100:20:01,200 --> 00:20:09,840a year later, at the very height of the panorama, the panini sandwich of the plague, known as COVID,35200:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,080less fun to say though, I have to.35300:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,720The Panama.35400:20:14,720 --> 00:20:20,960Jeffrey Scott Beier was charged with first degree murder, first degree felony murder, sexual35500:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,560assault, two counts of tampering with evidence, third degree assault, and two counts of attempting35600:20:26,560 --> 00:20:32,640to influence a public servant by misleading authorities about Charlene's disappearance.35700:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640Dick.35800:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,320He was also charged with aggravated animal cruelty.35900:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,320No!36000:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,040I knew it was coming, but I didn't...36100:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,280I was hoping it wouldn't come anyway.36200:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,280Yeah.36300:20:45,280 --> 00:20:52,000Which I'm paying to say that I need to issue obviously a trigger warning for bad things36400:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,760happening to animal.36500:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,760Okay.36600:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,280We're not quite there yet, but I'll let you know when we get there.36700:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,640Again, they're still looking for Charlene, whether she's alive or it simply her remains,36800:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,960so let's get back to the investigation.36900:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,960Everyone brace themselves though.37000:21:11,960 --> 00:21:20,320After this episode drops, I could foresee some really awkward interactions at a few Colorado37100:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,320targets.37200:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,320Oh, no.37300:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,160I'm literally staring at a target bag under your desk right now.37400:21:27,160 --> 00:21:33,680Though Charlene is gorgeous and there's certainly a kindness behind her eyes that feels uncommon.37500:21:33,680 --> 00:21:39,520She looks very much like a number of women that doubtless, countless people interact with37600:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,240every day.37700:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,840I feel like when you see a picture of her, if this is immediately following her disappearance,37800:21:46,840 --> 00:21:52,280you're looking around everywhere going, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that I thought you were37900:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280the woman that they're looking for."38000:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,840Oh, okay.38100:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,840Because she just has one of those very all-American girl faces that...38200:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,920Well, they frequently make the news.38300:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,800I get that, yeah.38400:22:05,800 --> 00:22:12,280The Charlie Project and other Missing Persons databases described her "thusely."38500:22:12,280 --> 00:22:21,080Missing since 2016 from Little Tin, Colorado, she is classified as an endangered Missing 36-year-old38600:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,080female.38700:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,560I have to take a deep breath before this next part.38800:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720It hurts my heart.38900:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,120Measuring 5' and weighing 105 pounds.39000:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,640Oh, she's just little.39100:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,160This is an incredibly small woman, very slight.39200:22:40,160 --> 00:22:47,440And I can't help but think that it takes someone particularly evil to pray upon her.39300:22:47,440 --> 00:22:55,880Distinguishing characteristics that they listed were a Caucasian female since when has39400:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,880that ever been a distinguishing feature?39500:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,560With blonde hair, brown eyes, pierced ears.39600:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,480That's a distinguishing feature.39700:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,400Wow, okay.39800:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,840And a scar on her abdomen from a prior car accident.39900:23:13,840 --> 00:23:20,680She was also said to have a two-inch wide butterfly-shaped birthmark on her lower back right40000:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,080above the booty.40100:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080A butterfly...40200:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,080Butterfly?40300:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,080Butterfly?40400:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,080I know.40500:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,080I thought you were going to say tattoo.40600:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,400Well, especially when you hear that it's in the...40700:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,280You know, the knot.40800:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,280Tramp stamp.40900:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,280It...41000:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,280Who cares?41100:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,800Tramp isn't even a thing.41200:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,800Yeah.41300:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,800Shut up.41400:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,200That is really cute, though.41500:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,560Oh, my God.41600:23:42,560 --> 00:23:48,440I don't think that I need to tell you that this description could probably be tens of41700:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,400thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions of women.41800:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,800Yeah, I think the only distinguishing was the birthmark.41900:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,800Yeah.42000:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800Yeah.42100:23:58,800 --> 00:24:04,620Luckily, the indictment reveals that there was surveillance footage recovered in the42200:24:04,620 --> 00:24:10,960course of the investigation that left something akin to a breadcrumb trail.42300:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,480Stay stupid motherfuckers.42400:24:13,480 --> 00:24:20,160In early July 2016, shortly after Charlene's whereabouts get a little bit sketchy, according42500:24:20,160 --> 00:24:27,720to the indictment, a number of hours between roughly July 1 and 2, Jeffrey was seen on42600:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,040numerous recovered surveillance footage clips.42700:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,000Honestly, it was like he was on like a scavenger hunt.42800:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,880And all that was required was to be on as many cameras as possible.42900:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,560I mean, now, oh my gosh.43000:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800You literally cannot step outside without being on a camera.43100:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,680No, you really can't.43200:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,440I sound like such an old person.43300:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,440I know.43400:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,440Before.43500:24:53,440 --> 00:25:00,440Or like a, you know, anti-government or like conspiracy theorist.43600:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,960They're watching all the time.43700:25:01,960 --> 00:25:08,280Jeffrey is seen withdrawing $7,000 at a local Wells Fargo question.43800:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,280Yeah.43900:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,800Do you have to go in for that?44000:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,200Or can you get it from the ATM?44100:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,760You cannot take $7,000 out of an ATM.44200:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,760I wasn't sure.44300:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,000That was like a serious question.44400:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000I wasn't sure.44500:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,280But it's a really good question because it certainly can differ by bank.44600:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,920But typically there's a maximum that you can take out and every bank handles it differently.44700:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,880But it's anywhere between two and maybe $500.44800:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,880Oh, okay.44900:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,760And so some people will go to multiple ATMs.45000:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,720Some of them impose a daily limit.45100:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,320So no matter how many ATMs you go to, the max you can take out is like 300 bucks.45200:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,320Okay.45300:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,120I think I've ever had the max in my account to take out.45400:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,640So I wouldn't know that.45500:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,640You're like $300.45600:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800Would I win the lottery?45700:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,800Seriously.45800:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,800Yeah.45900:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,800No, for real.46000:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,800I think I'm exaggerating what I've got.46100:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,800No, I wouldn't.46200:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,800Yeah.46300:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,800I get it.46400:26:02,800 --> 00:26:11,000He also went to Home Depot at Santa Fe and I 25 where he's seen moving something from46500:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,440the back seat to the trunk.46600:26:14,440 --> 00:26:22,400With surveillance footage and receipts verify that this was on the very same date that he purchased46700:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,760a gallon of lighter fluid at Home Depot.46800:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,760Oh, boy.46900:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,160Is that the only purchase he made to my knowledge?47000:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,160Look, that is.47100:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,920You buy a couple other things to make it less suspicious.47200:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,800It's like when you buy tampons, you obviously like you know you wrap that shit in a magazine47300:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,120and buy a pint of ice cream just in case.47400:26:46,120 --> 00:26:55,760Off exit 304 in Bennett, Colorado, he stopped at an abandoned farm off the I-70 highway.47500:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,160He was there for roughly 20 minutes when officers later searched the property.47600:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,520A burn pile was discovered.47700:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,360Did they have surveillance footage at the farm?47800:27:07,360 --> 00:27:12,840I'm not sure what the source of this particular section of the footage was.47900:27:12,840 --> 00:27:19,940I didn't dig that deep into the indictment and all of the other information, but I was48000:27:19,940 --> 00:27:21,440kind of curious about that as well.48100:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,280I was like, how did they know he was there for 20 minutes?48200:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,360Yeah, it's interesting.48300:27:27,360 --> 00:27:32,080The reason why I didn't really dig any further on that is that there doesn't appear to have48400:27:32,080 --> 00:27:38,440been anything of particular evidentiary value beyond the fact that there was a burn pile.48500:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,640Yeah, because he burned it.48600:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,640Yeah.48700:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480Why else would you burn something?48800:27:44,480 --> 00:27:50,640Yeah, but I mean, that's just at least what's publicly revealed in the indictment.48900:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800The indictment is in part redacted.49000:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,800Oh.49100:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120So, I don't know.49200:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,400I mean, could there be more to that?49300:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,400Possibly.49400:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,400I think so.49500:28:01,400 --> 00:28:08,600I think primarily it's redacted to protect the name of the people associated with the sexual49600:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,480assault case.49700:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,480Oh.49800:28:11,480 --> 00:28:19,880Continuing on his route, Jeffrey also stops at two separate I-76 gas stations for roughly49900:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,400five minutes each.50000:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,840Doesn't say that he purchased gas.50100:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,400So maybe he did.50200:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400Maybe he didn't.50300:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,400I don't know.50400:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,320He just had to use the bathroom.50500:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320Like what guy is making two five minute stops on his drive home?50600:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,320Maybe he has IBS.50700:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,320I don't know.50800:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,320I...50900:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,320Okay, five minutes.51000:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,320A man with IBS.51100:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,320Five minutes.51200:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,320Anyway.51300:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,880I mean, men are gross.51400:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,520Maybe he didn't wipe or wash it.51500:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,520Ew.51600:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320He just dropped the loan left.51700:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,560Okay.51800:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,960Moving on.51900:28:50,960 --> 00:28:58,040From there, he travels on to his apartment in the Denver area, but only remains there briefly.52000:28:58,040 --> 00:29:04,360He makes an additional trip to his company lot, where he reportedly stays for roughly two52100:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,040hours.52200:29:06,040 --> 00:29:13,440His final trip is to Tower Landfill in a large truck, where he dumps a load of less than52300:29:13,440 --> 00:29:20,440800 pounds, which doesn't necessarily...it sounds weird.52400:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,520Like is that not a lot?52500:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,520And apparently it's not.52600:29:23,520 --> 00:29:29,480For reference, there was apparently no confirmed or logical business reason for him to make52700:29:29,480 --> 00:29:36,840this trip, because it's a notably small load for drop-off in his line of work.52800:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840And it's like a holiday weekend.52900:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,840Yep.53000:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840Yeah.53100:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,320It's right before the holiday.53200:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,320Interesting.53300:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,560And shall rest, dang.53400:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,680A search conducted by law enforcement in November of 2016 revealed many personal items53500:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600belonging to Charlene.53600:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,920And here's where I need to issue that trigger warning.53700:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,440It's like I gave you a trigger warning for a trigger warning.53800:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,720We'll keep this quick, like ripping off a bandaid.53900:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,220Okay.54000:30:11,220 --> 00:30:18,160Also discovered with Charlene's personal belongings was the body of a small dog wrapped in a red54100:30:18,160 --> 00:30:25,360sweater believed to have belonged to Charlene's missing Chihuahua Toby.54200:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,840No, Toby!54300:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,360The dog had been decapitated.54400:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,360Why?54500:30:32,360 --> 00:30:44,360Sadly, his head has not been located, which kind of makes you wonder about that burn pile.54600:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640Why would he...I don't.54700:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520It's just the head.54800:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,760I don't know.54900:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,600I don't know.55000:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,960Maybe he thought the face of the dog would be identifiable.55100:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,640I don't know.55200:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,640I know.55300:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,640You don't know.55400:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,280Why does anyone do something so horrific to an animal?55500:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720I mean, not to mention to his girlfriend.55600:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,720Well, yeah.55700:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,720Allegedly.55800:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,240But just like a tiny little...just like an animal that they're so innocent.55900:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,240I don't get it.56000:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,240Yeah.56100:31:16,240 --> 00:31:29,840I just... her car was also found abandoned in a dirt lot at 50-99 South Rio Grande Street. So...56200:31:29,840 --> 00:31:39,840close to their apartment, and wear her cellphone last pinged. Okay, just making sure you56300:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,120caught that one. I mean, I'm just agreeing with you. Oh, okay. I don't know. My mind is not here.56400:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,400Yeah, you're like, "I'm not here."56500:31:48,400 --> 00:31:56,800At this time, Charlene also remains missing, and I have to assume essentially presumed dead.56600:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,160You know who else was really difficult to locate all of a sudden, though?56700:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,080Jeffrey?56800:32:04,080 --> 00:32:13,920I... good guess. Oh, yeah. Snick a little snake that he was. He'd made his way to Moscow.56900:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480Nope. Not Idaho.57000:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,680I was like, "Seriously, Russia? Is it Russia?"57100:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,520Yeah. The other one.57200:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680He went all the way to fucking Russia.57300:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880Motherfuckin' Moscow... Russia.57400:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880What?57500:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320That's really far away.57600:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,640The theory is that he crossed the border into Canada in November of 2016,57700:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,920before traveling on to resettle in Moscow. And settle he did.57800:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,360By Valentine's Day 2017, he had married.57900:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,560What?58000:32:50,560 --> 00:32:59,520And by the following year, he and the Russian Mrs. were welcoming their first child, a daughter.58100:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,520Holy shit, he moves fast.58200:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,960Yeah.58300:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,760Wow.58400:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,760But apparently, the happy little family life wasn't built to last.58500:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,680You don't say?58600:33:09,680 --> 00:33:09,920Yeah.58700:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,240By 2019, his wife had filed for divorce.58800:33:15,040 --> 00:33:21,120She described horrific abuse at his hands, being brutally beaten and strangled,58900:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,640and in some cases, even the fact that she was holding their infant daughter at the time,59000:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,600did nothing to dissuade him from attacking her.59100:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,960Oh, the poor woman.59200:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600Yeah. And they're poor child.59300:33:33,600 --> 00:33:40,240He had also, apparently, brought a new girlfriend into his home, which I would say,59400:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,680either of these facts taken separately, is certainly grounds enough for the divorce.59500:33:45,680 --> 00:33:53,280But apparently, by this time, she also knew about his misadventures with the law59600:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,880in little tin, Colorado.59700:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,440Okay, wait. So he brought a girlfriend into the house where they were living together.59800:33:59,440 --> 00:34:05,920So it was in July of that year that she reached out to police here in the States,59900:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,160to let them know where they could recover their little reptilian escapee.60000:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,280Nice.60100:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,000I thought so.60200:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,800Good job.60300:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,120Yeah.60400:34:15,120 --> 00:34:22,720She stated that Jeffrey had come to Russia because he was told there was no extradition treaty,60500:34:22,720 --> 00:34:29,280which kind of sounds like Bolshe, because he's an American.60600:34:30,080 --> 00:34:38,400So extradition, in case anyone's wondering, is the act of making someone return for trial to60700:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,920another country or state where they have been accused of doing something illegal.60800:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,360So, okay, you flee.60900:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,400We pull your backpack.61000:34:48,400 --> 00:34:58,240After being indicted in the US, Jeffrey was put on Interpol's database and was eventually picked up61100:34:58,240 --> 00:35:06,000in Moscow. Now he awaits Russia's decision regarding extradition and a Moscow jail,61200:35:06,000 --> 00:35:15,520because I mentioned he's not from Russia, and actually he's probably no longer even married to61300:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,840someone who is a Russian citizen. So I'm not sure why they would want to keep him61400:35:23,280 --> 00:35:29,200other than to maybe piss off America. Yeah, but like who is he who cares?61500:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,240Yeah, knowing cares.61600:35:30,240 --> 00:35:34,160According to the Russian daily newspaper,61700:35:34,160 --> 00:35:43,200Comerson, he hopes to obtain Russian citizenship, which again, I don't know why they would want him.61800:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,880Seriously.61900:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,400He claims to be a victim of political persecution.62000:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,480What does that even mean? Further asserting that he is entitled to asylum.62100:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,240He's one of those entitled people.62200:36:02,240 --> 00:36:09,200I'm a mediocre white man. How deserve everything.62300:36:09,200 --> 00:36:18,320Jeffrey claims that he has been framed for murder. He has also pointed the finger at the62400:36:18,880 --> 00:36:27,760Colorado prosecutor and Republican Party candidate, George Brockler, who he claims is62500:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,880hunting him for political reasons. What would those be?62600:36:32,880 --> 00:36:40,320You know, my next line says, which I don't know, Jeff is repeated abuse and a possible murder62700:36:40,320 --> 00:36:48,560committed in the country attempting to extradite you what you would consider political reasons.62800:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,040I almost have no words literally. What the fuck?62900:36:53,040 --> 00:37:04,080If the president opts to grant Jeffries request, it will be impossible for him to be extradited to the US as63000:37:04,080 --> 00:37:13,360Russia's constitution does not allow for extradition of its own citizens. I see, I see.63100:37:15,360 --> 00:37:22,080And that wouldn't be such a problem if we were kind of not on such great terms.63200:37:22,080 --> 00:37:31,600So it's unclear whether he will be returned to Colorado to face the charges against him.63300:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,640No court dates will be scheduled until he is physically present in the63400:37:38,320 --> 00:37:46,880Arapaho County Detention Center. He's still in Russia. He's still in Russia. As far as I know,63500:37:46,880 --> 00:37:55,680I really tried to dig and see if any sort of arrangements were made in the last couple of years.63600:37:55,680 --> 00:38:07,040And you guys again, Russia like, she's not that cool with us. Yeah. So I don't know, but63700:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,760honestly, like, okay, that's fine. You can keep him. I feel like maybe a Moscow jail is63800:38:13,760 --> 00:38:20,800hopefully he's still in there. Yeah. Like, is that better? Maybe that's better. Maybe, you know,63900:38:20,800 --> 00:38:30,960I'll leave you with the almost eerily optimistic words of district attorney, George Brockler.64000:38:32,640 --> 00:38:39,680Nobody should be able to walk away from murder. I will do everything in my power to bring a perpetrator64100:38:39,680 --> 00:38:47,200to justice. I am pleased that in the death of Charlotte Voight, there is now a process in place64200:38:47,200 --> 00:39:00,080to accomplish that. That last part. What's the process? Extradition. Okay. So the thing that, but64300:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,920that's why I say eerily optimistic. Like, I need an incredible feat that, you know, they were able to64400:39:07,920 --> 00:39:18,320you know, track him down halfway across the world. But that process, you mentioned. Oh, okay. So64500:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,880all you have to do is get Putin to agree to extra poof down. It's going to be a little bit of a64600:39:24,880 --> 00:39:33,120challenge here, for a while probably. Sort of a layered situation. Like a Russian nesting doll. Yeah.64700:39:33,120 --> 00:39:40,160I don't know. Maybe, maybe some tarot will make you feel better. I have a fancy new deck to show you.64800:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,960I know how you love that new deck. Terrible. Slash Oracle death. Question mark.64900:39:50,720 --> 00:39:57,440As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows. So stay tuned for the promo65000:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,040we've got to share with you this week. Let's show them some love. You can find their info in our show65100:40:03,040 --> 00:40:14,800notes. Hey, everyone. This is Maria with your Creepin Me Out podcast. If you are into the paranormal,65200:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,000true crime and just plain weird, you're going to want to listen to our podcast. My friend Jessica and I65300:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,240talk about all things weird and creepy from the hat man to alien abductions to your creepy encounters.65400:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,560And that's where you, the listeners come in. You're working on making more content for you65500:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,520from what your spooky little hearts desire, which means you guessed it. We need your stories.65600:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,840You can email them to ycmopod@gmail.com. You can also find a link in our Instagram or you can65700:40:41,840 --> 00:40:48,240leave a voice message. You can follow us on Instagram, threads, and Twitter at ycmopod. Thank you for65800:40:48,240 --> 00:41:01,760listening and stay creepy, my friends. You guys were back! And don't worry, we did get more wine.65900:41:01,760 --> 00:41:13,440Well, of course. This is a special fancy fancy deck. It's an oracle deck. So we're doing something66000:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,160lightly different, which is both upsetting and exciting.66100:41:18,160 --> 00:41:25,440Hopefully not too upsetting. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, what's this guy called?66200:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,080Praying Mantis. I found one of these in my food one time. Oh, gross. Yeah.66300:41:32,080 --> 00:41:41,840Giant eyes just staring right back at me. Yeah. Okay, so Prank Mendes, mindfulness, strategy,66400:41:41,840 --> 00:41:51,040and calm. Execution matters. Yeah. It does. It's funny because I read the keywords and I was thinking,66500:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,760"Oh, it's all the things that Jeffrey didn't do." Cool. That's what I was thinking too.66600:41:55,760 --> 00:42:05,520Plan each moment carefully before taking action. Remain still. Mindfully planning your course of attack66700:42:05,840 --> 00:42:15,440and be certain that your strategy will not harm your neighbor. In a state of calm, your mind will more66800:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,760easily open to the abundant opportunities surrounding you. Yeah, he doesn't have very many66900:42:21,760 --> 00:42:30,720opportunities now. I don't know. I hear Moscow's nice this time of year. Is it? No. Is it cold? Isn't it67000:42:30,720 --> 00:42:36,640cold? I don't know what it's like this time of year, but I hear it's frequently quite cold.67100:42:36,640 --> 00:42:44,000Quite cold. Tide cold. Should I pull another one? Yes. Oh, okay. Oh, I can barely read this.67200:42:44,000 --> 00:42:55,920Jay. It's a Jay. Communication assertiveness, resourcefulness. Your input is essential. Say what you need67300:42:56,960 --> 00:43:06,160with this concise words as possible. Hmm. Decide whether you want to plant your seeds in places where67400:43:06,160 --> 00:43:14,560they can grow into future harvest or use them to nourish a situation more immediately. Interesting.67500:43:14,560 --> 00:43:21,760Like someone wasn't doing any planting of their seeds. He was planting a seed. He wasn't nourishing his67600:43:21,760 --> 00:43:27,680seeds. Yeah. Yeah. Don't just go plant near seed willy nilly on people who don't want their67700:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,320your fucking seed planted there will willy nilly. Can't we all just keep our hands through67800:43:32,320 --> 00:43:40,320ourselves? Is it that hard? Yeah. Apparently. I think this one's really interesting because don't67900:43:40,320 --> 00:43:46,480they like eat their man's head after they mate? I don't know. They might eat the whole thing. I just68000:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,880feel like I've always just heard they bite their head off after you know. Yeah. Isn't that what68100:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,200everyone's heard? I think they probably start with the head. I don't know. We should Google it.68200:43:57,200 --> 00:44:04,880Okay. Google it. And then it's also like praying mantis. So like someone praying on someone.68300:44:04,880 --> 00:44:11,840Very relevant. I literally said someone prayed on her. Oh, did you say? I'm so sorry. No, it's68400:44:11,840 --> 00:44:18,240no, it's just funny because it's like that choice of words. Oh, did you say it in this reading just now?68500:44:18,240 --> 00:44:25,360No. No. In the episode. Oh, you did. I was like, oh, you already said it. I'm a dummy. I wasn't listening.68600:44:25,360 --> 00:44:32,240National Geographic wants us to know. First of all,68700:44:32,240 --> 00:44:40,400not all praying mantis species cannibalize their mates. How many species are there? I don't know.68800:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,440I thought there was just the one. He says maybe if the female is starving or if the male irritates her,68900:44:48,240 --> 00:44:56,400which is probably usually the case. So are they really that like, is it that different than we thought69000:44:56,400 --> 00:45:05,600if you loved listening to that oracle reading and you want to see it, become a member of the Patreon69100:45:05,600 --> 00:45:14,640where a video of every tarot and/or oracle reading is uploaded with the ad-free version of the episode69200:45:14,640 --> 00:45:22,640each week. In those videos, usually have extras in them that we don't leave in the regular episode.69300:45:22,640 --> 00:45:29,840And this episode just happens to have a two-card oracle reading just for our Patreon. Yeah, it's fun.69400:45:29,840 --> 00:45:37,200And a little bonus, bonusy story from Cassie. Yeah, so if you're intrigued by that,69500:45:37,200 --> 00:45:44,480join our Patreon. If you can't support us monetarily, no worries because the easiest ways to69600:45:44,480 --> 00:45:52,560support us are absolutely free. 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And you're always welcome to remain70400:46:47,040 --> 00:46:53,760anonymous in case you don't want any other praying mantises coming after you. That's fair. And remember,70500:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,080they don't have to be from the Pacific Northwest if you'd like to share. Yeah.70600:46:59,200 --> 00:47:07,520They can be from praying mantis. Ten. Ten. You're a praying mantisonian. Yeah.70700:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,520We're really stretching this as far as it'll go. And then some.70800:47:13,520 --> 00:47:20,720Follow us on all of the socials if you don't want to miss out on photos of our tarot and70900:47:20,720 --> 00:47:28,880oracle readings. Our beautiful alter setups and a lot of backstage shunnanigans. There was a71000:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,240little of that today. Yeah. You can find our website (pnwhauntsandhomicides.com) and link tree in the description of this71100:47:34,240 --> 00:47:45,440episode to check out all of the creepy cool praying mantis. Yes. Have a creepy ass day.71200:47:46,640 --> 00:47:53,280Bye. Are we are we not doing see you next to say see you next Tuesday first stuff71300:47:53,280 --> 00:48:03,920unless you're in Russia. Yeah, because I will never be there.71400:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,500(upbeat music)71500:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,820Let’s open them next to the mic it the same time.71600:48:34,820 --> 00:48:36,520(laughs)71700:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,000- Mine's already open.71800:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,120- Damnit Caitlyn.71900:48:39,120 --> 00:48:39,960- Okay, shh.72000:48:39,960 --> 00:48:47,200- I was trying to create some ambiance.72100:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,680- Yeah.72200:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,840- Grassy ass.72300:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,440(laughs)