Creepy People Chronicles: Strange Revelations & Stranger Encounters

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000Hopefully people are listening and God, get your fucking birdie out of your makeup bag.200:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,760Get mace.300:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,000I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away.400:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,000It's just like that's a habit that I've had from such a young age.500:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000Me too, it's really sad that we have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early600:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000age.700:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000Yeah.800:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000I'm a car when you're walking up to it.900:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000Make sure no one's in your back seat.1000:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000Lock the door quickly.1100:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000Like, uh.1200:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,000[MUSIC PLAYING]1300:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000Hi, Caitlyn.1400:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000Hi, Cassie.1500:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000Hi, creepy people.1600:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000Hello.1700:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000Hello.1800:00:46,000 --> 00:00:53,000If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime,1900:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.2000:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000Yeah.2100:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,000And we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode so that you can get some insight into the topic.2200:01:05,000 --> 00:01:13,000Yeah, just a little insight, a little insight, a little sight into your in nerds.2300:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000Oh.2400:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000Okay.2500:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000Spooky season.2600:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000So I'm going to let that one slide, I think.2700:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,000Yeah, I mean, this will be out after spooky season, but we're still in spooky season right now.2800:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000And I'm very, uh, Ashnikko to out right now.2900:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000Yeah.3000:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000You're fully engaged with the spooky of the season.3100:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000Yes.3200:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,000Yeah.3300:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000We're going to the concert tonight.3400:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000It's going to be so much fucking fun.3500:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000We're having the best October.3600:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000Yeah, we really are.3700:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000Seriously.3800:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000Um, we may have slightly over scheduled ourselves this weekend.3900:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000Yeah.4000:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000It's fine.4100:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000We never do that.4200:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000Yeah.4300:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000It doesn't happen.4400:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000Anywho.4500:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000Well, this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.4600:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000A tease.4700:01:58,000 --> 00:02:06,000Creepy people Chronicles are when we share your stories, your spookies, your ookies.4800:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,000Sometimes they're witchy or ghosty or true crimey.4900:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000Yeah.5000:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000That also.5100:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000Yeah.5200:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000Yeah.5300:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000Yeah.5400:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000Yeah.5500:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000Yeah.5600:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000Yeah.5700:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000And look at that.5800:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000I, I have one.5900:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000Oh, no.6000:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000I'm like, okay, I'm really worried about the story that you're going to tell.6100:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000Yeah.6200:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000You got me scared.6300:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000Yeah.6400:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000Me too.6500:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000Okay.6600:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000Well, you go first.6700:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000Oh, should I go for?6800:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000Oh, joy.6900:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000Okay.7000:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000I am really just struggling today to gather my thoughts.7100:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000And I think I was telling you earlier that.7200:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,000I'm processing an increased level of cortisol.7300:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000Maybe that's what it is.7400:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000And I think it's turned off my brain.7500:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000Oh, no.7600:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000So here we go.7700:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000So you are just a hat rock today.7800:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000I am just a hat rack today.7900:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000Very much so.8000:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000Very, very much so.8100:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000All right.8200:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000So just what you want for your Friday, your Friday, if you will.8300:03:11,000 --> 00:03:19,000I was leaving work and I looked down at my phone and I was like, I have 10 text messages.8400:03:19,000 --> 00:03:30,000And I have not been ignoring my phone all day, but it turned out it was primarily a group chat that just really kind of exploded.8500:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000Okay.8600:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000But I saw that I had messages from, let's see, my mom.8700:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000It looked like it was messages from Chris, but he was part of the group chat.8800:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000And then I had messages from you.8900:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000And I think at least one other person.9000:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000The details, some of them are a little fuzzy.9100:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000So I'm leaving work.9200:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000And as I'm getting into my car, I see that I have all of these messages.9300:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000And the way that my new work building is located.9400:04:03,000 --> 00:04:12,000There is a very busy corner right before a T-intersection.9500:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000Okay.9600:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000And there's railroad tracks right by us.9700:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000I don't think I'm geolocating myself too much.9800:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000Now I'm a little bit paranoid.9900:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000I don't know.10000:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000Yeah, it was quite a time.10100:04:26,000 --> 00:04:35,000So there's a gas station that, depending on, you know, what side of the street or of the building that you're on.10200:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000I think of it as being like kind of behind us.10300:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,000It's across like kind of a little rolling grassy hill.10400:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000That's like backs up to our parking lot.10500:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000Okay.10600:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000And I feel like I'm going like into a painstaking detail.10700:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000And I'm like getting really nervous.10800:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000I want to picture it.10900:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000Yeah.11000:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000Yeah.11100:05:01,000 --> 00:05:11,000I know it's, I had to use objects to try to locate for Chris when I was like explaining to him when I got home last night.11200:05:11,000 --> 00:05:20,000So I've always assumed that there was a little bit more of a distance between,11300:05:20,000 --> 00:05:27,000like that little rolling grassy hill and you go down and then the gas station is down there.11400:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000And the backside of their building is right there.11500:05:31,000 --> 00:05:38,000I've already, this is my second experience with something unfortunate occurring on the backside of the gas station building.11600:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000So.11700:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000Oh, yeah.11800:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000Okay.11900:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000Which is exactly how I feel about it.12000:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000Okay.12100:05:47,000 --> 00:06:03,000And I am sitting there and I'm about to kind of start looking through my messages quick because I thought to myself like, Oh, man, I wonder if there's something important going on or, you know, I just don't know.12200:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000So I wanted to check.12300:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000And messages is quite a bit.12400:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000It's a lot.12500:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000It's a lot.12600:06:08,000 --> 00:06:16,000And, you know, if nine of those messages had been from my mom or from Chris, I'm thinking like, okay, there could be like legitimately.12700:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,840legitimately an emergency or something. So just as a frame of reference, I'm kind of setting12800:06:21,840 --> 00:06:28,960up some of the deeds. Yeah. So I went to check my messages and dig out my wallet because12900:06:28,960 --> 00:06:35,440I was about to go run a couple of errands and as I'm sitting there for a minute,13000:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,360I looked up and I realized there was somebody who was sitting down,13100:06:42,080 --> 00:06:49,280fully sitting down with his back up against the gas station building. And I was like, oh,13200:06:49,280 --> 00:06:57,200weird choice, but cool, whatever. Kind of an older guy. So I was like, all right, maybe he13300:06:57,200 --> 00:07:04,720walked there from somewhere and he's tired. I don't know. Okay. Sometimes you don't ask a lot of13400:07:04,720 --> 00:07:12,560questions because you're not sure if you want the answers. Anywho. And as I'm sitting there for13500:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,960like a little bit longer, I realized that like he's looking directly at me. And then I realized13600:07:18,960 --> 00:07:29,440that his face is like very animatedly like angry. He's animatedly like outwardly speaking and making13700:07:29,440 --> 00:07:38,400direct eye contact at me. Okay. But that's I don't like that. Yeah. That's creepy. I mean, at first,13800:07:38,400 --> 00:07:45,920it kind of started, he just looked like he was staring right at me. So I kind of shrugged that off.13900:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,680And I was like, whatever, like, you know, maybe he's totally zoning out. But when I realized like he's14000:07:51,680 --> 00:07:58,880speaking, like he's audibly speaking, I couldn't hear him because of the distance. And you know,14100:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,480I've of course got a podcast playing in the background and you're in your car, right? Yeah, I was in my car.14200:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,960But I was still kind of fiddling with my phone for another minute and I like look up and I'm like,14300:08:10,960 --> 00:08:20,080okay, he's like his demeanor is changing and he's like standing and he's still like seemingly14400:08:20,080 --> 00:08:28,000angrily like shouting up at me and like looking directly at me. I was like, okay, that's weird.14500:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,400And I'm just kind of like, all right, I'm, you know, I just need to like get myself situated and I'm14600:08:34,400 --> 00:08:44,480going to leave. And then all of a sudden I looked up and he was literally charging at my car.14700:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,600Oh my God. He was charging at my car and he just had14800:08:51,920 --> 00:09:02,960the most deranged look on his face that I think I've ever seen. Like in person, in real life on a14900:09:02,960 --> 00:09:14,320human person's face and he was screaming and he was like just very angry. And where I was parked is15000:09:14,320 --> 00:09:21,520super close to the front door of the building and I knew that the front door hadn't been locked15100:09:21,520 --> 00:09:30,480yet. But I was also one of the very last people there. But I didn't know that there was at least one15200:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,600person still there. I thought it might have been down to just me and one other person, but I wasn't sure.15300:09:35,600 --> 00:09:46,720But this guy, he closed the gap between, I thought this was a much further distance coming up that15400:09:46,720 --> 00:09:53,360little tiny grassy hill from the gas station then then it must be. I'm going to go out there with15500:09:53,360 --> 00:10:01,840like a tape measure or something because I couldn't believe how fast he was like immediately within15600:10:01,840 --> 00:10:10,080like probably three or four feet of my car. And it was at that point like I was like what the fuck?15700:10:10,560 --> 00:10:19,760And I'm like panicking and I go to pull out, I put it in reverse and then I'm also very, very close to15800:10:19,760 --> 00:10:27,360the exit of like the parking lot onto the main road. The only problem is that because we're so close15900:10:27,360 --> 00:10:35,520to the corner, sometimes you have to wait for the cars that are turning right from the like16000:10:35,520 --> 00:10:44,640perpendicular road to go. So the whole time, and this is not a short distance. So if he wanted to keep16100:10:44,640 --> 00:10:52,000like if he was going to come up and like attack me, he could just keep running after my car.16200:10:52,000 --> 00:10:59,600And it's not far at all. And obviously I'm not you know hitting it up to like 70 miles per hour16300:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,440because it's a parking lot. I don't even have enough runway to get up to that kind of speed16400:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,760and so I'm just looking over my shoulder and looking behind me and checking my mirrors and stuff16500:11:11,760 --> 00:11:19,840for the few seconds that I have to sit there and wait to pull out. And just to make sure that he16600:11:19,840 --> 00:11:31,600wasn't like following me. And as I'm you know I've already passed by the the the main door and I was16700:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,360panicking because I was like, oh my god, this guy is like he's so close to right there at the front door16800:11:37,360 --> 00:11:44,480and he could just like walk into the building. Yeah. And I was like he's clearly like not here16900:11:44,480 --> 00:11:51,600with us. So like what is he going to do if he stumbles into the building? And I was like, I can't get out17000:11:51,600 --> 00:11:59,600of my car. Like because if I do that, then I like have nowhere to go. Yeah. I don't have a way to like17100:12:00,640 --> 00:12:07,280get into the building and like lock the door faster than he could like catch me. So I'm panicking17200:12:07,280 --> 00:12:15,200because on top of like I just want to pull away from the building. I was like, oh my god, what do I do?17300:12:15,200 --> 00:12:22,720Like he could go into the building and like really hurt someone. Yeah. And so I'm sitting there and as17400:12:22,720 --> 00:12:29,280I'm like pulling away, I just like rapid honked my horn and then I just like pulled away. I was like17500:12:29,760 --> 00:12:36,960I have to go. I can't like because I'm sitting there thinking like can I call the main office line17600:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,080and like try to connect to the person who's like still at the office and I'm like I don't know their17700:12:42,080 --> 00:12:48,080extension. Yeah. And like this is a brand new job. I don't even know everybody's names yet.17800:12:48,080 --> 00:12:58,720So I just basically like pulled up to the grocery store parking lot the first place that I was going to17900:12:58,720 --> 00:13:09,120go on my errands and I was like sitting there thinking through like I have my birdie. I own18000:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,600mace. I have no idea where it is. Yeah. I know. Aaron, I have not found it. I haven't ordered a new one.18100:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,920Yes. Chris has already addressed this with me. So I don't want to hear about it. And by the time18200:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,480this comes out, you better bet we both will have some and maybe a taser as well. But as I was like18300:13:29,200 --> 00:13:36,880thinking it through, I'm like my birdie is inside of a cosmetic bag zipped up in my backpack.18400:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,680Well, that makes no sense. Yeah, it really doesn't. But my keys were getting really bulky and I wasn't18500:13:43,680 --> 00:13:50,160always carrying it with me and I wasn't just like always having it at the ready. And so that's that's18600:13:50,160 --> 00:14:01,040changed. I fix that in the in the parking lot of a trader Joe's. But I sat there and was just18700:14:01,040 --> 00:14:08,160eventually I just had to get out of my car because I was like I don't want people to think I'm weird18800:14:08,160 --> 00:14:14,160because I've sat here so long that the person who was parked right next to me, they came out to their18900:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,000car after I'd already been there for a couple of minutes. They pulled away and the empty parking spot19000:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,520on my right. Somebody has pulled in, gotten out of their car. They're probably halfway done with19100:14:25,520 --> 00:14:34,000their shopping. I mean, the saturation. And then a new car pulled into the initially occupied spot.19200:14:34,000 --> 00:14:44,000So I was like I have to go. I feel like I'm just I can't like make words. I can't seem to like19300:14:44,000 --> 00:14:53,280clear my thoughts, but the look on this guy's face. I am not kidding you that I almost pulled19400:14:53,280 --> 00:15:02,320like a quarter of a block away and just like pulled over. I just like couldn't figure out where I19500:15:02,320 --> 00:15:09,840should pull over. Yeah. Because it's just in a spot where it's difficult to like find a it's a19600:15:09,840 --> 00:15:22,320tough spot. But I was like I'm my head feels so heavy and dizzy and I could just feel like19700:15:22,320 --> 00:15:33,440I could feel it, but I could hear it like all of the blood rushing into my head. Yeah. And I could hear19800:15:34,160 --> 00:15:43,840the pounding in my ears. And I was like this is one of those times where you go from you know being19900:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,560there's a lot of circumstances that I think probably most women in life have encountered20000:15:50,560 --> 00:16:02,560that you feel a little bit uneasy. This was one of the only times I don't want to say in my life20100:16:02,560 --> 00:16:10,320because that if I go back far enough this is this is a feeling that I understand, but20200:16:10,320 --> 00:16:22,880this is the last this is the only time in like the last decade that I can clearly recall feeling like20300:16:22,880 --> 00:16:29,360I think if this person gets to me I really think they want to hurt me.20400:16:30,720 --> 00:16:38,560That's so terrifying. And I just was like alternating between being completely20500:16:38,560 --> 00:16:48,800catatonic and just like periods of like sobbing. Are you hearing that? Yeah.20600:16:48,800 --> 00:16:55,600Can we all of a sudden just got like a ton of like static in our ears and that's gone.20700:16:56,720 --> 00:17:06,000Okay. That's fine. I'm telling you this story is haunted. I said that jokingly, but maybe I'm not.20800:17:06,000 --> 00:17:15,680I don't know. It's so hard to put into words like I feel like I can't fully express20900:17:15,680 --> 00:17:25,600just like the way that it was like I'm lizard brain afraid. I'm purely acting on21000:17:25,600 --> 00:17:34,560and really like the fight or flight like I genuinely thought that this person meant to do me serious harm.21100:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,120I don't know. It's hard to describe because I think a lot of us21200:17:39,120 --> 00:17:47,920feel like we're worried about that. Yeah. But it was very it was a very a moment of very real like this21300:17:47,920 --> 00:17:55,520is happening. Thank God you were in your car. I know. I know. Ready to go and not like at a bus stop21400:17:55,520 --> 00:18:03,920oh my god can you imagine if yeah I know. So as you can imagine you know I think I told you21500:18:03,920 --> 00:18:11,120no I didn't tell you I told because I purposefully didn't tell you what happened here because21600:18:11,120 --> 00:18:18,720because I wanted to build a share it and I thought maybe it would be easier to not tell it21700:18:18,720 --> 00:18:28,320and tell it and keep re-repeating it. Yeah. Well and then it's it's always one of those things too where21800:18:28,320 --> 00:18:37,520some things you want to be prepared and some things you just want to say the thing and have that be21900:18:37,520 --> 00:18:45,520like how your brain spits out the words. Yeah. And I thought maybe in this case it should be the22000:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,360ladder and now I'm starting to wonder if it should have been the former. No but we can see how it22100:18:51,360 --> 00:18:58,000clearly affected you and I hopefully people are listening and God get your fucking birdie out of22200:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,760your makeup bag. Get mace. I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away. It's just like22300:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,640that's a that's a habit that I've had from like such a young age. Me too it's really sad that we22400:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,640have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early age. Yeah. Like look under the car when22500:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,440you're walking up to it. Make sure no one's in your back seat. Lock the door quickly like.22600:19:23,440 --> 00:19:34,000I don't know it just the and then there was sort of this weird feeling of like I don't22700:19:34,000 --> 00:19:44,080want to say retraumatization exactly but you know Chris's response was like I feel like I need to go22800:19:44,080 --> 00:19:51,200over there and see if this person is still there and you know he's had to do that in other situations22900:19:51,200 --> 00:19:59,600and sometimes you know related to his job but he was basically saying you know maybe this is a23000:19:59,600 --> 00:20:08,480situation where we need to figure out what his location is and you know let law enforcement be23100:20:08,480 --> 00:20:16,640aware. Yeah. So I'm given to understand because my my reaction immediately was like why would we23200:20:16,640 --> 00:20:25,520call the cops like the attitude about violence against women really of any kind any form or fashion23300:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,520a little bit frustrating in so many cases where it's like until he hurts you there's nothing we can do23400:20:33,520 --> 00:20:42,960because there's no crime that's been committed but so that anybody else who's maybe you know23500:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,960experience something like this knows it's you know in that instance you know depending on the23600:20:48,960 --> 00:20:59,840jurisdiction that can be considered like harassment or like a threat of violence. Yeah. Yeah.23700:20:59,840 --> 00:21:07,680But I was like well I don't want to leave the house again I need to just melt and not be a person23800:21:07,680 --> 00:21:16,480anymore. I need to just be a hat rack now and I can't do that if you leave because then I just23900:21:16,480 --> 00:21:23,280sit here and cry and worry that like you know maybe in the course of you trying to just report this24000:21:23,280 --> 00:21:30,480to the proper authorities that like something bad happens. I just yeah. Yeah. Stuntless. Yeah.24100:21:30,480 --> 00:21:41,200I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah. It wasn't that much fun. No. Like zero out of ten. I can't say24200:21:41,200 --> 00:21:48,480enough how much I don't recommend negative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it was sort of strange because I24300:21:48,480 --> 00:22:00,720feel like in a weird way women are so prepared to protect themselves against violence. You know24400:22:00,720 --> 00:22:09,040coming perpetrated by men largely. Sorry guys. You know. Yeah. But I feel like this felt like24500:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,080something different than like I feel like we all kind of have this sort of a trope in our minds about24600:22:16,080 --> 00:22:23,360like oh you know it's like the rapist that attacks you in a car park or whatever. And this felt like24700:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,240a very different. I don't know something in my lizard brain was like I don't think that's what this24800:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,800is. I think this person like wants to physically hurt you in not that way that you've been a24900:22:36,800 --> 00:22:43,920custom to think that all men do. Yeah. And it was like during the daytime it was yeah it was broad25000:22:43,920 --> 00:22:51,440daylight. Yeah. He was clearly on something and I think so. He was the fastest grandpa I've ever met.25100:22:51,440 --> 00:22:58,640Oh god. I've seen people on the side of the road like recently a guy just like screaming at his25200:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,400bike and kicking it on the side of the road and you know he looked very angry and see him full in the25300:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,200face. Yeah. But I can just imagine like I was imagining that type of thing coming at you. It was25400:23:11,200 --> 00:23:19,360I in this situation you know I've seen that as well. And this was the first time that I was like25500:23:19,360 --> 00:23:31,440oh fuck I'm the bike. Yeah. I'm the bike. Yeah. So yeah just I think just processing it. I don't know.25600:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,240I don't know why it feels like in a way like okay this feels very dramatic like calm down but25700:23:38,240 --> 00:23:47,520I feel like I have to trust the like instinctual part of me that knows that this was this was25800:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,080not good. Like you said if I had been on foot like this would have ended very differently. I really25900:23:54,080 --> 00:24:06,160I really believe that. Shit. Yeah. So aside from Caitlin's absolutely terrifying fucking story today.26000:24:06,160 --> 00:24:14,080Yeah. We do have an email. Is it scary? I don't know because surprise I haven't even read a word of it.26100:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,560What? Yeah I feel like I because usually I kind of skim them. Yeah. But I was like you know I think it26200:24:20,560 --> 00:24:27,440could be fun to just not read anything about it. I kind of read the last line. I glanced at it26300:24:27,440 --> 00:24:33,360in the first line but I'm not sure if it's going to be much of a palette cleanser from Caitlin's story.26400:24:33,360 --> 00:24:41,280So oh good. Yeah. Enjoy everyone. You'll be just as surprised as I am when I read it.26500:24:41,280 --> 00:24:48,400I mean I do like that aspect. So it is titled Paranormal Story. So we kind of you know26600:24:49,040 --> 00:25:00,800we can see what it's maybe about. Okay. They say hello. I know. Love the show. Thanks for being a wonderful26700:25:00,800 --> 00:25:07,680and creepy source of entertainment. You're welcome. We try. I'd like to remain anonymous.26800:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,520This story goes back many years so I will do my best to keep it as short as possible.26900:25:14,320 --> 00:25:22,960But it is worth the read. Obviously. We think so. We think anything is worth the read. Love it.27000:25:22,960 --> 00:25:30,800When I was nine years old my family moved into the home where it all started. Okay. Where what started?27100:25:30,800 --> 00:25:39,760Shortly after moving there within days my little brother who is six started refusing to sleep in his room.27200:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,280Oh. That's not a good sign. No. I was just going to say that's a bad sign. This was never an issue at our27300:25:47,280 --> 00:25:55,600previous home. You don't say. Personally I always felt nervous in the house. Every time I went up the stairs27400:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,160I couldn't help but run as fast as I could because of the intense feeling of somebody being right behind27500:26:02,160 --> 00:26:10,080me. Okay. No thank you. They go on to say I mean almost fall on your face fast.27600:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,320So they were like sprinting up those stairs. I mean for some people that's just like every speed but27700:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,880Caitlin has to run all the time or she would just get trampled by everyone else going so fast.27800:26:22,880 --> 00:26:32,960Her little legs, my little legs. Every time I got to the top I'd stop, turn around and just be thankful.27900:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,280Nothing got me. Oh god. Why would you stop and turn around? I'd just keep going to my room.28000:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280But that's what I was going to say. I don't want to see you just in case. No.28100:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,520My bedroom was next to my brothers and I really hated having to walk by it all the time.28200:26:47,520 --> 00:26:54,480I would always need the door to be wide open because if it wasn't I would feel like someone was hiding28300:26:54,480 --> 00:27:03,680in there. So I'd kick it open and run if it was partially closed. Okay that's totally, I mean that's a28400:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,760totally normal thing to do. Yeah, normal response to just a room in the house you know. Yeah I'm28500:27:09,760 --> 00:27:17,760I'm gonna go with that. Nobody ever went in that room. One day I came out of my bedroom and the28600:27:17,760 --> 00:27:25,360bedside lamp was on which I found very strange because I knew nobody. I knew nobody had been in there.28700:27:25,360 --> 00:27:32,800It took every bit of courage I had to go and turn it off. Well when I did the light bulb exploded28800:27:32,800 --> 00:27:40,720and I got quite the shock as well as a burn from hot glass. Oh no! Oh no! That is not what I expected.28900:27:40,720 --> 00:27:51,680Sorry. Ouch. My older sister was in her first year of high school and decided to throw a Halloween29000:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,760party. She had this friend who was always such a bully. So I do find this part kind of amusing.29100:27:58,320 --> 00:28:06,240Okay, I'm here for it. Yes, we don't like bullies. No. She had this tough girl persona. Always wearing a29200:28:06,240 --> 00:28:16,720leather jacket and acting as if she was an acting as if she was queen shit of turd island. Oh my god.29300:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,440That's great. You know I'm just gonna say it. I'm glad that we've turned a corner29400:28:21,440 --> 00:28:29,600societally and just wearing leather jacket doesn't really mean anything other than that you own a29500:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,360leather jacket. I think if you're acting like you're the queen shit of turd island and wearing a29600:28:35,360 --> 00:28:43,680leather jacket. Yeah, I could see. Okay. All right. Anyway, during this party she went to use the29700:28:43,680 --> 00:28:50,800washroom which was located at the top of the creepy staircase but came bolting out of the house29800:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,640in a panic. The other kids tried to ask her what happened but she just kept saying there's29900:28:56,640 --> 00:29:04,080something in there. I don't want to talk about it. What's in there? She was quite upset that people30000:29:04,080 --> 00:29:12,320were so curious and asking so she left almost immediately and refused to ever go inside her house again.30100:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,000Okay, well, so I assume it was more than just like a giant turd in the toilet or30200:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,840well she wouldn't have been afraid of that. She was queen turd of... That's right. Yeah, queen30300:29:23,840 --> 00:29:31,440shit of turd island. That was her people. Yeah. She would have never felt more at home. I agree. Yeah.30400:29:31,440 --> 00:29:38,320My sister and I have never been all that close but a few years later she told me that she would have30500:29:38,320 --> 00:29:44,480really strange dreams during our time living there because my younger brother wouldn't sleep in30600:29:44,480 --> 00:29:51,280his own bedroom. He would either sleep in my sister's room or my mom's room. My sister's dreams were30700:29:51,280 --> 00:29:58,480always about my brother dying some horrible death. Oh no, I hate that. And she would wake up convinced30800:29:58,480 --> 00:30:06,320that it was real until she would see him sleeping soundly beside her. At the time this was all she told me.30900:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,920So the dog? As there's a clicking outside my window. Oh okay, well listen okay, it's pull my31000:30:13,920 --> 00:30:23,840feet up into the chair of the block. So hold on just a sec. Oh god. Okay, all right you guys nothing can31100:30:23,840 --> 00:30:33,760get me now. Right. Okay. Man, but having those kinds of dreams is just the fucking worst. I don't know,31200:30:33,760 --> 00:30:43,520I don't know. No, no. Fast forward a few years when I was 15. I decided to move in with my dad and31300:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,400things got pretty intense for me. I kept having this recurring dream. I'd wake up in my room and walk31400:30:50,400 --> 00:30:57,520over to my window, but when I looked outside it didn't look like my yard. I'd see a tree with an old31500:30:57,520 --> 00:31:05,440wooden and rope swing and a dirt road that would wind up past the tree. It was actually quite a31600:31:05,440 --> 00:31:12,960pleasant scene. I'd see an old red black deck truck, 1940 style coming up from the top of the road.31700:31:13,440 --> 00:31:21,280Then the sky would get dark and I'd notice the swing was now a noose. No thank you. I knew it. I knew it.31800:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,760I knew it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Why did it transform into a noose? I don't like it. Yeah,31900:31:27,760 --> 00:31:34,640no, I have to go. I just remembered I have a thing. I'd run towards my door, but no matter how hard I32000:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,080pulled it just kept slamming shut as if someone was holding the other side. No.32100:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,320I looked to my left and this woman was there. She was tall and slim with long black hair,32200:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,800wearing a white dress, and although I can tell you what her face looks like,32300:31:52,800 --> 00:32:01,760there's just this knowing that she is beautiful. Okay, I was expecting a lot worse. She says, I like,32400:32:01,760 --> 00:32:10,320I hope I can breathe the rest of the night because I have forgotten how. I don't know how anymore.32500:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,720Okay, so she's beautiful. That's a relief. Okay. Yeah, because I mean, God forbid she should be32600:32:16,720 --> 00:32:26,160unattractive. Right. Yeah. That's terrifying. I can't really explain that. It's like I've seen her face,32700:32:26,160 --> 00:32:34,160but also haven't. That makes sense. I kind of guess like Deja Vu feeling. Yeah. It's a little bit like32800:32:34,160 --> 00:32:42,640fuzzy. Yeah. Yeah. She starts to loom over me as if she is getting taller and I realize she's not on32900:32:42,640 --> 00:32:51,360the ground. And what I see after that is so otherworldly that I can't put it into words. Okay, great.33000:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,560Well, we don't want to push ya. So spoiler alert, she doesn't stay beautiful.33100:32:58,400 --> 00:33:09,600She turns nervous. I don't. Okay. She turns so demonic and comes towards me so incredibly quick33200:33:09,600 --> 00:33:16,880that it jolts me awake. Ah. Just like that. Yeah. Every single time this happens, I have to get out of33300:33:16,880 --> 00:33:25,440bed, look out my window to make sure I'm actually awake. I had this dream four times. That is four times33400:33:25,440 --> 00:33:34,400too many. Yeah. Oh, many weird things happened while I lived in that room to be clear. This is a33500:33:34,400 --> 00:33:41,600different house, but it did stop when I moved to a different bedroom. Okay. I won't share every last33600:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,840detail, but the other things I will mention is twice I'd been woken up from the feeling of my cat33700:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,400jumping onto my bed, but I'd quickly realize that she's not in my room in the doors closed.33800:33:54,400 --> 00:34:02,000No, your cat maybe it's like a spirit cat. Yeah. Spirit guide cat or something, right? Yeah.33900:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,320Listen, I'm already a little touch and go with cats because I don't understand them. So34000:34:08,320 --> 00:34:17,600ghost cats, it's a bridge too far for me personally. Okay, I won't spoiler alert this one. I'm34100:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,760just gonna go into it. Okay, great. So I'd open my eyes to see the woman for my dreams, just34200:34:23,760 --> 00:34:32,320sitting on the end of my bed. She would disappear as I went to get, oh, God, I can even read.34300:34:32,320 --> 00:34:39,280She would disappear as I went to get a light on. So if you could see her until you went to turn on the34400:34:39,280 --> 00:34:52,320light, oh, God. Okay. Well, that's I'm sure there's reasons. Yeah. You know, because reason, ghost34500:34:52,320 --> 00:35:00,720reasons. Yeah. Demonic reasons. I mean, yeah. For years, nothing else happened. I had almost forgotten34600:35:00,720 --> 00:35:07,920about it all. Well, did my best to never think or talk about it anyway. Don't blame you. Yeah.34700:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,600I am now 32 years old. My sister and I have gotten a bit closer in the past year, and she was over34800:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,280for coffee a couple of months ago. Somehow, we got on the topic of the first house that I mentioned in34900:35:21,280 --> 00:35:28,880this story. She told me more about her experience there and told me there was more than just dreams.35000:35:28,880 --> 00:35:40,480No, thank you. This is where shit gets weird. Oh, it's gonna be weird. Okay. I'm just gonna have to35100:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,000take your word for it. She told me twice. She woke up to the sound of someone coming up the staircase.35200:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,480She would walk down the hall to see a woman halfway up the stairs. The woman would look up, notice35300:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,320my sister and start coming towards my sister. Not step by step, but in a levitation manner, picking up35400:36:00,320 --> 00:36:09,200speed. My sister would run back to her room. I asked if this was a dream, but she swears she was awake.35500:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,820Out of curiosity, I asked what this woman looks like.35600:36:13,820 --> 00:36:14,460- No.35700:36:14,460 --> 00:36:22,100- She described her as kind of like the girl from the ring.35800:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,000- No, not.35900:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,200- Not, no, no, no, no, no, no.36000:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,500- Podcast over.36100:36:29,500 --> 00:36:30,640- Nope.36200:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,860- You're not seeing her, hopefully.36300:36:32,860 --> 00:36:35,460- But nope, not gonna see her.36400:36:35,460 --> 00:36:37,620- Nope, we'll cleanse you.36500:36:37,620 --> 00:36:39,460- As soon as she said that,36600:36:39,460 --> 00:36:41,220I was in shock.36700:36:41,220 --> 00:36:43,100- Well, thanks for joining me.36800:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,580- I just bumped my shoulder on the thing36900:36:45,580 --> 00:36:46,740and I got someone touch me.37000:36:46,740 --> 00:36:47,740It was really scary.37100:36:47,740 --> 00:36:49,060- I was like, no.37200:36:49,060 --> 00:36:50,180- I wondered what happened.37300:36:50,180 --> 00:36:52,580I was like, what was that?37400:36:52,580 --> 00:36:53,800- Whoops.37500:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,860- You're like, yeah, that's what I was wondering.37600:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,400- I scared myself.37700:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600- Third.37800:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640- I asked how she was different.37900:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,340My sister said she's not a child.38000:37:03,340 --> 00:37:06,260She's tall and her hair doesn't cover her face,38100:37:06,260 --> 00:37:08,880but I can't picture her face for some reason.38200:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880But she's really pretty.38300:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,720- Oh great.38400:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,000- So like the same person?38500:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,080- Yeah, that, I mean, it's better if they're the same,38600:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840probably, two of those, two separate.38700:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640- I know that makes it more real though,38800:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440if they're like validating in a tubbers.38900:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,600- I appreciate it.39000:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,760- I don't like it.39100:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560I don't like it.39200:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400- I literally sang to the floor when she said that.39300:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,560I told my sister about my dreams39400:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,120and we found other similarities.39500:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,560I asked if anything else ever happened.39600:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,600I said, has she ever just stopped in for a visit?39700:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,320I'm not even kidding.39800:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,760She said, yeah, and she sits on the end of my bed.39900:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,880- No.40000:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,080No.40100:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,920No.40200:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840- Oh my god, I just got fucking freezing cold.40300:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,680- No.40400:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,680- Did you get chilly with these?40500:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,320- I don't like it.40600:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960No, it's not cold.40700:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,320I don't, mm-mm.40800:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,840I got the goose flesh.40900:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,400We've agreed to leave it there41000:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920and never talk about it again.41100:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000- Yeah, that's probably for the best.41200:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680That is so fucking creepy.41300:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120Yeah, and she comes and sits on the end of my bed.41400:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,320- No.41500:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920- I don't like that.41600:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,760I don't like that.41700:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760- I really don't like that.41800:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160Stop doing that.41900:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440You shouldn't hang out with her, you know?42000:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,760Especially like when she starts saying,42100:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,16017.42200:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,160- No.42300:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,320- Nope, nope, no.42400:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,800No, no.42500:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,640What's crazy too is that normally,42600:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920if something was sitting on the end of my bed,42700:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400that I thought was a beautiful woman or something,42800:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,720be like, okay, maybe they're trying to protect you42900:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,440or they're just making sure43000:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,000that you're having nice dreams,43100:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920but then the other part of the dream43200:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160where she turns into a damn demon and rushes your face.43300:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,480- Yeah, so I feel like in case it was unclear,43400:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,240I don't think that's her plan.43500:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,000- I really wanted it to be true, but.43600:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400- Yeah.43700:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040- Well shit, I'm so sorry you've had43800:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,280so many traumatic events and then you wrote us a story43900:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400about it after agreeing never to talk about it again.44000:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,720- Yeah.44100:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,480- Well, hopefully maybe getting it out44200:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,480and into the universe will calm it down in your mind.44300:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240- Alivea.44400:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,880- Yeah, and we'll do a little terror reading for it too.44500:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,520- Oh, great.44600:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,800And by we, Cassie means she.44700:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,120- You're gonna be there too.44800:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360- I will physically be in the room.44900:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,600My soul has left the building.45000:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,400- We need your energy.45100:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,560- I don't have any.45200:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,880I 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night,46800:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,200we wanna hear about it.46900:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,840- And that's why we host the podcast,47000:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960Ain't It Scary with Sean and Carrie.47100:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,400- Every week we bring our listeners a true story47200:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,960guaranteed to send chills down your spine.47300:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,600From histories most brutal serial killers47400:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,440to the mystery of spontaneous human combustion.47500:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480- Yep, lots of these stories leave unanswered questions behind47600:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,880and you'll get to poke through the rubble of the evidence47700:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,520with a hardened skeptic and--47800:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080- Someone whose mind is more open to fun.47900:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,240- Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.48000:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,080- The show really feels like just kicking back48100:40:55,080 --> 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Haunts and Homicides link tree.51000:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,440- Have a safe, stay.51100:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,560- You guys, we're back.51200:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,320- And don't worry, we did get more wine.51300:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,440- Well, of course.51400:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200(snoring)51500:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,080- Well, you're gonna shuffle some of that dick?51600:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,400So I got a new deck at Margie's Outdoor Store.51700:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360- God damn it, it is brand new.51800:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,120I got the crow deck51900:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080and she's been sitting on the cell and I,52000:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,080I've been holding her and calling at her.52100:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,320Oh, go on, you would.52200:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,520- Yeah, and I haven't used it yet.52300:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520- No, I pulled one card from it.52400:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,680Pulled one card.52500:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,520Okay.52600:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,080It's very recent trip, very fresh, very new.52700:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,920Okay.52800:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,920- Now I'm just saying words.52900:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,920- Yeah.53000:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040I mean, that happens sometimes.53100:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,040- Okay, so we're gonna pull a card for the spooky house,53200:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,080spooky dreams, the ring lady who's not the ring lady53300:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,360who's pretty, but you don't see her face.53400:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,640(laughing)53500:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,480- Okay.53600:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,320- All that.53700:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,960- But do we have to?53800:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,640- Yes, we do.53900:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960- So anonymous, this is your card.54000:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,520Your card is the queen of wands.54100:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,760- Okay.54200:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,120I'm so nervous.54300:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,760- So it's got two lions on it and a crow in some sunflowers.54400:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040- I turned almost right to it.54500:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,320- Ooh, I like it.54600:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200- Okay, and it's in the upright?54700:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160- In the upright, okay.54800:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,960Our keywords are creativity, passion, prosperity,54900:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,240fruitfulness and generosity.55000:44:07,240 --> 00:44:10,320Generosity, generosity, say.55100:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,040Like the king, the queen of wands is often pictured55200:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,320seated on a throne, wearing an elegant robe and a crown.55300:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,160She's usually a beautiful mature woman55400:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,160who epitomizes feminine authority, confidence,55500:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600warmth and enthusiasm.55600:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,960- Is she the queen should have turned high like that?55700:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560- Maybe.55800:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,320- We're gonna use that all the time, no matter what.55900:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,800- That's ours now, thank you.56000:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,120We're gonna merge, mate.56100:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,960- Yeah.56200:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,320- Oh my God.56300:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,160Okay.56400:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,120In a reading, the queen may signify an actual person56500:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,880when she does it's someone who's active, vibrant and outgoing,56600:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,720perhaps a woman with a creative nature.56700:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,680upright, a fortunate card, the upright queen56800:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,560gives you a thumbs up.56900:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000I disagree.57000:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,680If this card signifies a real person,57100:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840she's a figure who commands respect.57200:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480Whether she's in the boardroom or the home,57300:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,200the boardroom or the bedroom.57400:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,360Oh.57500:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,920- Am I right?57600:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960- This is creepy though, 'cause it was like,57700:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600in someone's home.57800:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,440Yeah.57900:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,720A wise advisor, she is also a loyal friend,58000:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,760a loving partner, a trustworthy authority.58100:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,440Maybe in your previous life.58200:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,880She has a nurturing, colorful and generous nature.58300:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,040She's confident in her abilities58400:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640and encourages others to do their best.58500:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,840- Huh, maybe this is like her sister.58600:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,680Or their sister. - Yeah.58700:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920- I don't know if it was a man or a woman writing this,58800:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640but I wonder if it was their sister.58900:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,800'Cause they did say they had a better relationship now59000:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840for the past, was it year?59100:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,040- Yeah.59200:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,880That could be.59300:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,760- Maybe it's the good side of the story59400:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600is popping out through the cards.59500:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600- That feels like maybe more on point.59600:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,960Like the King, she may play a prominent role59700:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840in a business or her community.59800:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,560In a question about money, the Queen says,59900:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,240"Do what you love, the money will follow."60000:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,240You may receive money from a creative venture60100:46:31,240 --> 00:46:35,680or prosper through a partnership or other alliance.60200:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,400If you asked about a job,60300:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,840the upright Queen shows a period of fulfillment60400:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,720when a project bears fruit and you're happy with the outcome.60500:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,600This is also a good time to birth or expand a venture.60600:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,800In a reading about a relationship,60700:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,720she shows a passionate romance between loyal loving partners.60800:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,720Maybe this is just a message.60900:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,080- That's what I was just thinking as you were reading.61000:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,400- Yeah.61100:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880Okay, there's an extra excerpt.61200:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,200- We didn't finish our sentence,61300:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000though, we kind of just mind-melded there,61400:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000but we think maybe it's a message for the person who wrote it61500:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920and it's not actually about the story, is that what we were thinking?61600:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,480- Yeah, I thought that, sorry,61700:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,800I thought that was kind of implied.61800:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560- I feel like we just like half-set it61900:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,320and for anyone maybe who does it is an honor brainwaves.62000:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,600- Yeah, well get on our brainwaves.62100:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,560- Yeah, okay.62200:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,000Thanks.62300:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,400The Queen of Wands represents a vital, passionate62400:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000and aggressive female,62500:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,560"Whoa, grossly."62600:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120Who wants to help other people through her efforts?62700:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,280Okay, and then you had us and you lost us,62800:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,200so I'm gonna guess.62900:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,400- I don't know, remember I said maybe she was a helper,63000:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840maybe she was just coming on a little too strong.63100:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,360- Yeah, maybe.63200:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,680Though she appears to be fighting those who cross her path,63300:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,680she is a true champion of those she supports.63400:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,440So does she support you?63500:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480- I don't know. - I don't know.63600:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,560- Well, did we just get our answer?63700:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,400- And maybe.63800:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,240- Answered?63900:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,920- A little bit of a mixed message, potentially,64000:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,280but, huh, I kinda like that.64100:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,400- That's interesting.64200:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,880- There's another one.64300:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,720- Okay.64400:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,020- The Queen of Wands bears similarities64500:48:19,020 --> 00:48:21,720to the Celtic goddess Bridget,64600:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,540who rules both the hearth and the forge.64700:48:24,540 --> 00:48:29,200Often she's pictured stirring a fiery cauldron.64800:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600- Woo! - Woo-hoo-hoo!64900:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600- Symbolic of creativity and inspiration,65000:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,000which is Link Bridget with self-expression,65100:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,420Smithcraft, and Healing and Celebrate her subat,65200:48:43,420 --> 00:48:48,280known as Imbol on February 1st.65300:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,120- Nice.65400:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120I think you did pretty good with those pronunciations.65500:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,960- Okay.65600:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480- I listened to that witchy podcast.65700:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,800What is it?65800:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,920Goddess witch womb.65900:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,920- Oh, yeah. - That one,66000:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,400oh my god, they have so much information.66100:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,800They've talked about her before.66200:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,800- Love it.66300:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,040- I feel like a shaggy dog.66400:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,800I can't even see my eyes right now.66500:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,760(laughs)66600:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,240- Just like God. - Just like God.66700:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,040- And for anyone who's not on Patreon,66800:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,360we have a cauldron here today66900:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,940and a bunch of witchy shit, spells cast here.67000:49:16,940 --> 00:49:19,160We've got a magic ball.67100:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,080Our cups are good witch, wicked witch.67200:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,160Caitlin shirt says drink witches, drink up witches.67300:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,040- Drink up witches? - Yeah.67400:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,000- Okay, so this is also just hitting me now67500:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,600as I actually look at the card.67600:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,280This is like a dark, obviously it's a crow,67700:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,800but it's like a dark specter looking over two lions.67800:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,240- Two lions.67900:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,400The siblings?68000:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,800- That really blows my mind that we were wondering68100:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,800if she was good or bad in the whole card seems to suggest.68200:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,880- I mean, it could go either way.68300:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,880- Yeah.68400:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,960- Yeah.68500:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,320That's wild.68600:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,320- Yeah, and I didn't know what this whole thing was about68700:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560too when I picked the crow, dark today.68800:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600- That's interesting.68900:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080- We didn't even know we were really gonna record this today,69000:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,520so we had no idea what was gonna happen69100:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,760'cause we never do.69200:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,880- Interesting, yeah, 'cause the whole witch, wow.69300:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,720Everything just falls right into place, don't it?69400:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,260- Just does what it's supposed to.69500:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,240- This pretty much says the same thing,69600:50:25,240 --> 00:50:28,080but in a cute crow story, so I don't know if anyone wants69700:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240to see it, I'll maybe post it to Patreon.69800:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,560- If you don't care, then don't tell me,69900:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,000and I won't post it.70000:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,480I think that we should draw a card for Caitlin's story.70100:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,800- Oh, yay.70200:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160I guess.70300:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120- So I'm feeling like I'm gonna shuffle it one more time70400:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560and then have you draw a card.70500:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520- Oh, I don't wanna pick it.70600:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,240- I think you should, but don't be scared.70700:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,640Just take a minute and breathe.70800:50:52,640 --> 00:50:58,560- Breathing is where the air comes into your body70900:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,000and then you push it back out.71000:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,840- Yes.71100:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,600- Feel your body with air.71200:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,080(sniffing)71300:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,280- You do know that I have literally been told71400:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400that I first of all don't blink right,71500:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600but second of all, don't breathe right, yeah.71600:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,600This is, okay.71700:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,320We're gonna go with this one.71800:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320So I'm gonna set that there,71900:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200'cause I wanna give us the option of,72000:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,680okay, what'd you get?72100:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,520- There you go.72200:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,360I don't know.72300:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,200- Oh, okay.72400:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,080- That's the two of swords in reverse.72500:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,920- Okay.72600:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,760- In reverse.72700:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,600- I'm sure that's good.72800:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,640It's another two.72900:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,480- It's that one.73000:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760- You know the two in, two lions, two swords.73100:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760- Yes.73200:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,480- Which, I'm a lion, I don't know.73300:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400- Maybe that's, maybe that's nothing.73400:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,320- Not great imagery.73500:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,160- Yeah.73600:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,320- Of the blindfolded one in.73700:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,560- That's great.73800:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,000I love that one.73900:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,840- Sorry.74000:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960- No, that's cool.74100:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,240Okay.74200:51:57,240 --> 00:51:58,960Two of swords.74300:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,400Keywords are combined resources,74400:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,240courage, faith, friendship, conflict and balance.74500:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,520In some tarot dags.74600:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,520Yeah, I don't, you know, okay.74700:52:11,520 --> 00:52:18,120In some tarot dags, this card depicts a blindfolded woman74800:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,720holding two swords crossed over her chest,74900:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,000which maybe I'll just buy two swords.75000:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,360Is that the takeaway?75100:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,520- Yeah, no blindfold though.75200:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,720- I think we're done here.75300:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,360I think you've talked before about being machined75400:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,800from walking that.75500:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,640- Oh.75600:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,880- Okay.75700:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,400- Two's generally signify balance or conflict75800:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,080as well as pairing.75900:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,960I think of the two of swords as the blind faith card76000:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,120because it can represent courage and making decisions76100:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,000based on your own truth.76200:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040And in some cases, spiritual guidance.76300:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,720- Something telling you to get the fuck out.76400:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,280- There's a conflict on the horizon.76500:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,120- I don't know.76600:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440This was in reverse, correct?76700:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,280- Yes.76800:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,800- Okay.76900:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,920- Reverse the two of swords often indicates confusion77000:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,800or conflict with yourself or someone else.77100:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,120- Well, okay.77200:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,760- Fair.77300:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,240An imbalance may cause stress or frustration.77400:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,640- An imbalance of drugs?77500:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,840- Perhaps.77600:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000Sometimes this card urges you to take action77700:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,680rather than endlessly analyzing a situation.77800:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,160That is so rude and I've never felt more triggered.77900:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,720- That's very true though.78000:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,960Like take action.78100:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,000We're getting the mace.78200:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,000You got the birdie out.78300:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,480Like, yeah.78400:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,320We're doing that.78500:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,720You can't see ahead,78600:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,880but you must take a leap of faith.78700:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,000I mustn't.78800:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,280I shan't.78900:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,920In a reading about money, this card suggests79000:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080worrying about a financial matter.79100:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,000You don't know what to do and can't trust anyone to help you,79200:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,240which is accurate.79300:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,400- Accurate in the moment.79400:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,720- Don't trust anyone.79500:54:01,720 --> 00:54:02,560- Yeah.79600:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,400- Ever.79700:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,240- Yeah.79800:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,640Well, you didn't like run into the building either,79900:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,600so that was like you were kind of on your own.80000:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,120- I'm like, bye.80100:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120- The reverse two can indicate choosing between80200:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,280two unsatisfactory options.80300:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,240A rock and a hard place.80400:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,240Apparently, if the reading is about your job,80500:54:22,240 --> 00:54:26,640the reverse two represents confusion, indecision,80600:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,240lack of information or conflicts regarding your work.80700:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,120Yeah.80800:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,240It can also warn that colleagues aren't reliable80900:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,720or trustworthy.81000:54:37,720 --> 00:54:42,080You need to look hard at something you don't want to see.81100:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,680In a reading about love,81200:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,560confusion or differences of opinion may cause stagnation81300:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,160in a relationship.81400:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,560Are you clashing swords?81500:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,840- I feel like it's not about a love thing,81600:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,200but I love that turn of face.81700:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480Honesty and openness are important now.81800:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,240The reverse two also represents imbalance.81900:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,000One person may wield more power than the other.82000:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,840- I am.82100:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,960- Crazy person with nothing to lose.82200:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,720- I thought we were still talking about love.82300:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,720- Oh, okay.82400:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,040- Look at power.82500:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,280I think it's not about love.82600:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480I'm not thinking about love in your story at all.82700:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960- No, not at all.82800:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600- I just was like, let's change the subject.82900:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,240Did never have feelings or, okay.83000:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,000- Yeah. - Are any extras?83100:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,320- Extrasurves.83200:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,480- Extrasurves.83300:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,480- Maybe I should look at the rest.83400:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,480- I don't know why, but I'm turning the page.83500:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200And, oh, okay.83600:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,040Why?83700:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,480'Cause you found something?83800:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,720Well, I didn't know that I would,83900:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,640but yeah, I was like, oh, turn the page84000:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480'cause there's no extra exerbs84100:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,520and there actually is on the next page.84200:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,040- Whoa.84300:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,280Calm down, okay.84400:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,760It's just a terror reading.84500:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,120- Okay.84600:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,960The soul is a diamond in the rough,84700:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,280which must abide the blows inflicted by suffering84800:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,320in order to shine in all its brilliance.84900:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,480Cassie, do you wanna know what book this is from?85000:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,400- Yes.85100:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,560- Like water for chocolate.85200:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080Oh, you don't like chocolate.85300:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,720And I don't like feelings.85400:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,720(laughing)85500:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,680- You're like crying in your chocolate.85600:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,040I feel like I need to read this.85700:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,440I feel like if I had to eat chocolate, I would cry.85800:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,080(laughing)85900:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,240- Shocking chocolate down your throat.86000:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,120(groaning)86100:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,720- In the little crow book, it says, "Two of Swords,86200:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,080the Blindfolded Crow balances herself on two blades,86300:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,120on the blades of two Swords.86400:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,840She calmly stays in place,86500:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,680unable to see the edges or where to safely hop to next.86600:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,560She is afraid of making a dangerous or painful mistake.86700:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,560The two of Swords suggests you may find it difficult86800:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600to make a significant decision86900:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,160because you feel you aren't unable to see the full picture87000:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480or that there is valuable information87100:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040that is being withheld.87200:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,680If you are feeling stuck, evaluate where the fear is coming from.87300:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,440I think you know where the fear was coming from.87400:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,280- Yeah.87500:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400- So I mean, potentially through my windshield.87600:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,040- And look for the steps and information you need87700:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,240to proceed safely.87800:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,440So start your car and get the fuck out.87900:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,160- Yeah, GTFO.88000:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,560- Pay attention to your surroundings.88100:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,040Very important.88200:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,920Lock your doors.88300:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120When the two of Swords is reversed,88400:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,400oh okay, the problem with indecision is heightened.88500:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,600You are unable to find any clarity due to an overload88600:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640of information, thus leaving you more confused88700:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,440and unable to figure out what is most relevant,88800:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,200which definitely it fucked with your brain.88900:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,440- Yeah.89000:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,720- Well, even just the point of like looking over89100:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,640at that like front door and being like,89200:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,120can I run back and set it?89300:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,960- Yeah.89400:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,640- No, no, no, no, I would choose.89500:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,800- You had to choice pretty much.89600:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,240That's interesting.89700:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120- Yeah, it is interesting.89800:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,600- Another successful, tarot read by two successful witches.89900:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,240- Drink up, shall we?90000:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120- I think I've had plenty.90100:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640- I mean, you've barely had any at all,90200:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,560but I'm a lightweight nowadays.90300:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,000Well, what makes one of us?90400:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,360We have a Patreon shout out.90500:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,760- Woohoo, another one.90600:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240- Yeah, it's another one.90700:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,440- Does not bite the dust.90800:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,920Not doing that.90900:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,920- Never, no, but Jocelyn, thank you so much for joining us.91000:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,680And you figured out the annual,91100:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320the annual subscription on Patreon.91200:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040- Oh, she committed to a whole year with us.91300:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,240- A whole year.91400:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,800- Oh girl, okay.91500:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,640- We got you.91600:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,480- Okay.91700:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,040- It's gonna be fun.91800:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,000Welcome to our Patreon, where you get a personalized91900:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,640welcome card with a mini tarot reading inside.92000:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240- Yeah.92100:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920- And a shout out, like you just got.92200:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,080- It just happened.92300:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,920That was it.92400:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,760We did it.92500:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,680And we're gonna do it again.92600:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,920Shout out Jocelyn.92700:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,760Jocelyn.92800:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,320Jocelyn Jocelyn.92900:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,480- We're super excited.93000:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,800- We are.93100:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240- We're not too excited.93200:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,080- Yeah.93300:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,520- They're a little too eager.93400:59:44,520 --> 00:59:50,200- Hey, listen, if you weren't into the silly voices93500:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,640and giggling and eagerness, then I'm not really sure93600:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,800what you came here for exactly.93700:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,920Maybe the ghost, I don't know, maybe, maybe.93800:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,680- Definitely not the murder.93901:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,720(laughs)94001:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,440- Okay, well Jocelyn, cared away in here.94101:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,000If you can't support us monetarily, no worries,94201:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,840because the easiest ways to support us are absolutely free.94301:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,280- Tell everyone in anyone you come into contact94401:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,400with about us, but not too close of a contact.94501:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,040- Yeah, just like shouting distance.94601:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320- At least three to five feet away.94701:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840Shout PNW Haunts and Homicides.94801:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,400- Bye, bye, bye.94901:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,240- Bye.95001:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,080(laughs)95101:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000- Or you can leave us a five star review95201:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,000on any platform you can, and fun fact,95301:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,240you can leave a review 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--> 01:02:25,100You're always welcome to remain anonymous.100201:02:25,100 --> 01:02:26,660See, someone did it.100301:02:26,660 --> 01:02:27,820She did it.100401:02:27,820 --> 01:02:28,620They did it.100501:02:28,620 --> 01:02:29,780He did it.100601:02:29,780 --> 01:02:30,620We don't know.100701:02:30,620 --> 01:02:32,500So hard to say, you know?100801:02:32,500 --> 01:02:34,100Somebody did.100901:02:34,100 --> 01:02:37,700And remember, your stories do not have to be101001:02:37,700 --> 01:02:39,820from the Pacific Northwest.101101:02:39,820 --> 01:02:43,500If you wanna share, send us a story from anywhere.101201:02:43,500 --> 01:02:45,860- We don't know where this story was from, so.101301:02:45,860 --> 01:02:47,460Follow us on all of the socials.101401:02:47,460 --> 01:02:50,420If you don't wanna miss out on photos of the tarot cards101501:02:50,420 --> 01:02:52,780that we pull for every episode,101601:02:52,780 --> 01:02:55,460our beautiful, alter set-ups that are also different101701:02:55,460 --> 01:02:57,260for every episode, mostly.101801:02:57,260 --> 01:02:58,100- Mostly.101901:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,540- And a lot of backstage shenanigans.102001:03:01,540 --> 01:03:02,380- Yeah.102101:03:02,380 --> 01:03:03,220- We get into it.102201:03:03,220 --> 01:03:06,180We post reels and tic-tac.102301:03:06,180 --> 01:03:07,020- Tic-tac?102401:03:07,020 --> 01:03:07,860- Yeah.102501:03:07,860 --> 01:03:09,820We do all that stuff.102601:03:09,820 --> 01:03:12,340- Our fun goings-on in the Pacific Northwest.102701:03:12,340 --> 01:03:15,180We like to visit places and post about them.102801:03:15,180 --> 01:03:16,220- I know.102901:03:16,220 --> 01:03:17,740Should we tell them about the thing103001:03:17,740 --> 01:03:18,980that we're gonna do tonight?103101:03:18,980 --> 01:03:19,820- Oh, yeah.103201:03:19,820 --> 01:03:21,980- And to this, it will have already happened?103301:03:21,980 --> 01:03:22,820- Yeah.103401:03:22,820 --> 01:03:25,540So we mentioned earlier, we're going to Ashnikko.103501:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,420And then it dawned on us.103601:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,660We're going to the Roseland, which we covered.103701:03:31,660 --> 01:03:32,500Yeah.103801:03:32,500 --> 01:03:34,740So if you haven't listened to that episode103901:03:34,740 --> 01:03:37,980that we talked about the Roseland, what was it called?104001:03:37,980 --> 01:03:39,980- Go back in, listen, do it.104101:03:39,980 --> 01:03:41,100- Okay, you guys.104201:03:41,100 --> 01:03:46,100We just figured out 100 episodes ago, exactly.104301:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,260Episode 35.104401:03:49,260 --> 01:03:53,340This is episode 135, that's so creepy.104501:03:53,340 --> 01:03:59,340Episode 35, we covered what was formerly known as104601:03:59,340 --> 01:04:00,620the Starry Night.104701:04:00,620 --> 01:04:02,260We are going there tonight.104801:04:02,260 --> 01:04:04,660It's now known as the Roseland.104901:04:04,660 --> 01:04:08,220The case that we covered was the murder of Tim Moreau.105001:04:08,220 --> 01:04:12,060So that episode is titled The Starry Night,105101:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,380Murder of Tim Moreau.105201:04:14,380 --> 01:04:15,700- Ooh.105301:04:15,700 --> 01:04:16,700- I...105401:04:18,860 --> 01:04:21,300- Yeah, that is crazy.105501:04:21,300 --> 01:04:22,460- All of the chills.105601:04:22,460 --> 01:04:24,700All of the chills and all of the non-verbal105701:04:24,700 --> 01:04:28,140and weird mouth sounds that I do, you guys get it.105801:04:28,140 --> 01:04:29,380- It was meant to be.105901:04:29,380 --> 01:04:30,580- Yeah.106001:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,860Do you want to know when that episode came out?106101:04:32,860 --> 01:04:33,900- Yeah.106201:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,740It came out on Christmas Eve.106301:04:35,740 --> 01:04:37,140- Oh, that's right.106401:04:37,140 --> 01:04:38,300- Yeah.106501:04:38,300 --> 01:04:39,140- That's right.106601:04:39,140 --> 01:04:40,140- Oh my God.106701:04:40,140 --> 01:04:42,580- That was our Christmas Eve special.106801:04:42,580 --> 01:04:43,420- You're welcome.106901:04:43,420 --> 01:04:44,260- Yeah.107001:04:44,260 --> 01:04:46,900Hey guys, it's Christmas Eve.107101:04:46,900 --> 01:04:48,460How about some murder?107201:04:48,460 --> 01:04:49,460- I don't know what it's like to be a ghost.107301:04:49,460 --> 01:04:53,020I do remember that people were seeing a ghost107401:04:53,020 --> 01:04:56,780like a strangling sound and oh.107501:04:56,780 --> 01:04:58,100Strangling.107601:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,260No.107701:04:59,260 --> 01:05:00,260- I don't know.107801:05:00,260 --> 01:05:01,820Well, hopefully it'll be so packed tonight107901:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,780like that we won't see any ghosts.108001:05:03,780 --> 01:05:04,940- Yeah.108101:05:04,940 --> 01:05:07,940- Maybe Cassie will wander off down a dark hallway108201:05:07,940 --> 01:05:09,700and try to seek out a ghost.108301:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,380- Okay.108401:05:11,380 --> 01:05:12,220All right.108501:05:12,220 --> 01:05:14,140Well, I'm not going anywhere alone.108601:05:14,140 --> 01:05:14,980- Yeah.108701:05:14,980 --> 01:05:15,820- Okay.108801:05:15,820 --> 01:05:19,820Anyways, you can find our website and our link tree108901:05:19,820 --> 01:05:21,700in the description of this episode109001:05:21,700 --> 01:05:24,900to check out all of the fun that we have to offer.109101:05:24,900 --> 01:05:25,740All of it.109201:05:25,740 --> 01:05:29,460Also, the website is linked to our link tree.109301:05:29,460 --> 01:05:30,300- Ooh.109401:05:30,300 --> 01:05:31,460- It's a lot of linking.109501:05:31,460 --> 01:05:34,140So many links, a link and that movie,109601:05:34,140 --> 01:05:35,900missing link is so fucking cute.109701:05:35,900 --> 01:05:39,660Have a creepy ass day!109801:05:39,660 --> 01:05:41,100- See you next Tuesday!109901:05:44,460 --> 01:05:47,380- We hope hopefully not at the gas station parking lot.110001:05:47,380 --> 01:05:49,180- Oh gosh.110101:05:49,180 --> 01:05:50,380- Everyone be safe.110201:05:50,380 --> 01:05:52,020Please.110301:05:52,020 --> 01:05:52,860Please be safe.110401:05:52,860 --> 01:05:53,780Also anonymous.110501:05:53,780 --> 01:05:57,580Let us know if the card meant anything to you.110601:05:57,580 --> 01:05:59,140What do you think about it?110701:05:59,140 --> 01:06:00,660- I know I'm dying to know.110801:06:00,660 --> 01:06:01,500- I know.110901:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,340- I know.111001:06:02,340 --> 01:06:06,460- Also like anonymous anonymous, you know,111101:06:06,460 --> 01:06:10,660like the big anonymous, like what a,111201:06:10,660 --> 01:06:13,460we hope you guys are always cool with us.111301:06:13,460 --> 01:06:17,020- Yeah, yeah, 'cause they really mess people up.111401:06:17,020 --> 01:06:19,100- Yeah, I don't, we've talked about it before.111501:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,700We don't wanna be on their bad side.111601:06:20,700 --> 01:06:21,700- Yeah.111701:06:21,700 --> 01:06:22,540I don't know.111801:06:22,540 --> 01:06:23,780It just feels like something worth mentioning111901:06:23,780 --> 01:06:24,940everyone's in a while.112001:06:24,940 --> 01:06:27,820Just, you know, for the periodic searches112101:06:27,820 --> 01:06:29,300of like who's talking shit.112201:06:29,300 --> 01:06:30,500We're not talking shit.112301:06:30,500 --> 01:06:36,460- I'm just so, I'm not here.112401:06:36,460 --> 01:06:37,460I'm not here.112501:06:37,460 --> 01:06:40,380I'm just like floating through time and space.112601:06:40,380 --> 01:06:41,380I don't know.112701:06:41,380 --> 01:06:42,380- I'm just here.112801:06:42,380 --> 01:06:43,220Who said that?112901:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,460- You're not here and I'm just here.113001:06:45,460 --> 01:06:46,460- Yeah.113101:06:46,460 --> 01:06:49,820- All right, well, oh wait, bye.113201:06:49,820 --> 01:06:51,020- Bye, we should probably go.113301:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,300Yeah, we can't keep the camera on113401:06:52,300 --> 01:06:54,540'cause they might see you're un-mentionable.113501:06:54,540 --> 01:07:00,060We were gonna have Chris stay in the back113601:07:00,060 --> 01:07:02,740and fold laundry while we did this.113701:07:02,740 --> 01:07:06,620And Kaelin was like, no, someone might see my un-mentionables113801:07:06,620 --> 01:07:07,620(laughs)113901:07:07,620 --> 01:07:10,540'cause she is an old-timey bitch.114001:07:10,540 --> 01:07:14,220'Cause I'm the old-timeiest of bitches.114101:07:14,220 --> 01:07:16,300(laughs)114201:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,720(soft music)114301:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,140(soft music)114401:07:23,140 --> 01:07:50,980[Music]114501:07:50,980 --> 01:07:55,220Oh my god are you okay?114601:07:55,220 --> 01:07:59,060You okay?114701:07:59,060 --> 01:08:03,060It just run to the bubbles.114801:08:03,060 --> 01:08:04,060The bubbles.114901:08:04,060 --> 01:08:06,060The bubbles what out to get you.115001:08:06,060 --> 01:08:07,060[Music]115101:08:07,060 --> 01:08:08,060Build, build getcha.115201:08:08,060 --> 01:08:09,060Build getcha every time.115301:08:09,060 --> 01:08:10,060She says sorry.115401:08:10,060 --> 01:08:11,340No you're right.115501:08:11,340 --> 01:08:14,340[Music]115601:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,540Your story is really getting to me.115701:08:16,540 --> 01:08:17,540[Music]115801:08:17,540 --> 01:08:19,540I mean I haven't even told you anything.115901:08:19,540 --> 01:08:20,540[Music]116001:08:20,540 --> 01:08:22,620It may really get to you.116101:08:22,620 --> 01:08:27,380I feel like it really bothered me.116201:08:27,380 --> 01:08:29,780Oh my god.116301:08:29,780 --> 01:08:31,580That doesn't happen to me like ever.116401:08:31,580 --> 01:08:32,580Yeah you like.116501:08:32,580 --> 01:08:34,580Oh no.116601:08:34,580 --> 01:08:36,860Like your eyes are watering.116701:08:36,860 --> 01:08:37,860Yeah.116801:08:37,860 --> 01:08:38,860No.116901:08:38,860 --> 01:08:46,860I feel like this story is like as haunted as my hat rack head feels today.117001:08:46,860 --> 01:08:52,180Like it's empty and spooky and no one really knows what's going on.117101:08:52,180 --> 01:08:53,180God.117201:08:53,180 --> 01:08:54,180And it tried to take my go.117301:08:54,180 --> 01:08:55,180Oh man.117401:08:55,180 --> 01:08:58,500Well it creeps me out because you know I was having that stuff with my neck where it117501:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,500was pulling.117601:08:59,500 --> 01:09:00,500I was being strangled.117701:09:00,500 --> 01:09:06,940And then the other day I was listening to a podcast and she said that she'd been told117801:09:06,940 --> 01:09:09,740that she was going to die by choking.117901:09:09,740 --> 01:09:13,260And I was like freaking out because I was like what is with all the fucking choking and then118001:09:13,260 --> 01:09:14,260today I'm choking.118101:09:14,260 --> 01:09:15,260Oh my god.118201:09:15,260 --> 01:09:17,260You were choking the other day.118301:09:17,260 --> 01:09:18,260Yeah.118401:09:18,260 --> 01:09:19,260A lot of it.118501:09:19,260 --> 01:09:20,260Okay.118601:09:20,260 --> 01:09:21,260I don't like it.118701:09:21,260 --> 01:09:22,260I don't want to be choked.118801:09:22,260 --> 01:09:23,260No I don't like that.118901:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,260I don't like that at all.119001:09:25,260 --> 01:09:26,260Okay.119101:09:26,260 --> 01:09:27,260I think I'm okay.119201:09:27,260 --> 01:09:28,260Okay.