Oct. 1, 2025

Normandale Park Shooting: Pt. 2 – Two Tales of One City

Normandale Park Shooting: Pt. 2 – Two Tales of One City
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This episode is about aftermath — the people left behind, the communities left reeling, grief compounded, and resilience tested. The story of Normandale Park didn’t end when the shots stopped. In Part 2, we trace Benjamin Jeffrey Smith’s arrest, eventual guilty plea, and sentencing — alongside the devastating loss of Deg, whose death was later ruled a homicide linked to that night.

For some, the Portland Police Bureau’s framing in early statements was enraging, a painful distortion of what had truly happened. For others, those same words confirmed the stereotypes and suspicions they already held about demonstrators, the BLM movement, even Portland as a city. Layered onto this divide was the revelation that the FBI had been aware of Smith beforehand, a fact that unsettled many and deepened mistrust.

This isn’t just the second half of a crime story; it’s the ongoing fight to hold institutions accountable while honoring those whose lives were forever changed. It’s about Portland, but it’s also about much more: the way stories like this echo across the country, and the lessons we can’t afford to ignore.

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This is the Normandale Park Part two, despite having reviewed

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the footage. An early statement issued by Portland's police chief

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following the incident described Smith's attack as a confrontation between

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an armed homeowner and armed protesters.

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Okay, an armed homeowner would be the violent man would be.

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Smith, okay, and the armed protester that would be you know,

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the unarmed protest organizers. Right. Hi, Cassie, Hi, Caitlin, Hi.

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Creepy people, helloo, hellu. This is PNW Hansen Homicides where

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we chat about true crime, the paranormal and all things

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spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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Yes, we do. And we also do a tarot reader.

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Oh wait, the BNW if you're nasty, nasty, nay hey,

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and we do tarror reading at the end of every

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episode for a little deeper insight into our topic. Yep,

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I was really excited to talk about Taro again. She

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was so excited.

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All right, So this is the Normandale Park Part two,

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and I'm just going to get right into it really Yeah.

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I feel like I just need to know the rest

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of the story.

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In the days immediately following the Normandale Park shooting, Portland's

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activist community was reeling the death of June t Rex Nightly.

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The critical injury sustained and trauma endured by so many

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others created shock waves that could not be contained to

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the boundaries of the park. Reporters scrambled for details, law

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enforcement issued their first statements, and survivors struggle.

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To process what had just happened.

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Still, this was not the type of group to pack

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up and leave quietly, even in the face of such

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horrific adversity, though it would certainly be understandable.

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Yeah, but I definitely can't see them as that type anyway,

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because they're already facing horrific adversity.

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So yeah, I mean, the impulse is understandable, But they

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sure didn't. They didn't, They sure didn't. All of June's

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friends went back to Corking within three months time. Even

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Dagg was able to participate via live stream after being

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left paralyzed after the events of that night.

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Let's backtrack ever so slightly.

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The night of the shooting, Hope had surrendered two authorities

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at eight twenty seven pm and was charged with two

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felonies hopeless yep.

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Well, wasn't that one of the people helping like helping

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shot the Okay? Because because the gunshots were indistinguishable from.

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They did technically fire upon someone at the scene.

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Oh.

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They immediately asked for legal counsel. Within hours, the charges

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were dropped once law enforcement and prosecutors were able to

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view the footage that Desia had recorded of the incident.

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Oh thank God, Oh, thank God, Thank Jesus, Christ, Jesus.

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I don't often thank God, but for some reason that

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came out. I don't know.

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I feel like it's that deeply embedded that like sometimes

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it just slips out and you're like.

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Oh, thank God, thank the universe.

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Despite having reviewed the footage, an early statement issued by

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Portland's police chief following the incident described Smith's attack as

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a confrontation between an armed homeowner and armed protesters.

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Okay, an armed homeowner would be the violent man would be.

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Smith, okay, and the armed protestered that would be you know,

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the unarmed protest organizers, right, got it. The news coverage

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that immediately followed the incident similarly continued to mischaracterize the

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events of that February evening. Smith was of course taken

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into custody following the shooting as well, having been shot

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in the hip by the volunteer guard who acted to

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stop his rampage. He was hospitalized but survived, fortunately or unfortunately,

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whichever way you land on that, and shortly thereafter was

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charged with multiple counts second degree murder for the killing

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of June t Rex Nightly, attempted murder for the attacks

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on other demonstrators, and assault charges. In early court appearances,

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Smith pleaded not guilty.

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Okay, confused, I have confusion on my face if the

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words were coming, Yeah, sure, I agree.

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I feel like sometimes it's great if like catch the YouTube,

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if the if the silence is too awkward on you know,

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Spotify or Apple.

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Like confusion, face, I have confusion.

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It quickly became clear that the story of Benjamin Jeffrey

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Smith did not start on February nineteenth, twenty twenty two.

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This was not an isolated act of violence, and there's

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actually multiple acts of violence that I didn't even include

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that have been talked about in some places, and I

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just didn't find a ton of source material on it.

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And I also just felt like, I don't know how

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relevant it is, but suffice to say that he has

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just been a kind of violent dude for minute.

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I mean, I'm shocked, I know, this guy who just

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randomly got so violent so quickly for basically no reason.

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It's weird. Weird how that doesn't happen overnight. Yeah, it's weird.

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Indeed, my notes say instead it was the culmination of

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years of warning signs, red flags, and systemic failures. The

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case moves slowly through Oregon's judicial system, but in April

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twenty twenty three, Smith changed his plea to guilty or accurate.

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Yeah, guilty, Yeah he did it. I'll be the one,

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I assume. I mean, I trust all the yeah that

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you're telling me.

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There's literally bodycam footage of him being the one doing it.

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So that's kind of what I figured.

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It's pretty compelling. He was sentenced to life in prison,

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with the possibility of parole after fifty five years. Effectively,

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this ensures that he will spend the rest of his

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life behind bars.

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I mean, I'm fine with that.

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I'm okay with it. I've made my peace with it.

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The judge also reserved fifty eight thousand dollars in restitution

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for the victims through the States Crime Victims Compensation Fund,

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which is not a lot of money for how many

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people were shot.

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I was about to say, how many people, what's that again?

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Question mark, my voice gets really high. I'm wrong.

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One of the most harrowing stories is that of Dag.

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Shot in the neck. She was paralyzed from the neck down.

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She survived only through intensive medical intervention and lived with

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the constant support of ventilators and caregivers. Dag fought bravely. Friends, family,

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and fellow activists described her as resilient, funny, and determined

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to live even under impossible circumstances. Digg's injuries left her

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unable to go more than an hour without the support

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of others. Further complications were constant, repeated bouts of pneumonia,

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additional hospitalizations, and the daily challenges of a truly life

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changing injury. She had lost so much control, her mother said,

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requesting that neither her name nor her daughter's name their

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full names be used to protect their privacy. Dag reportedly

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hosted a birthday party for herself, where she invited forty

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of her family and friends. For the first time in

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two and a half years, she was able to enjoy

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her loved ones without a mask. There was no fear.

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Her mother said, this was something that was her decision.

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I could argue with her, but we miss her desperately.

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In July of twenty twenty four, Dak made the decision

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to be removed from life support. She passed away shortly

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thereafter in her childhood home. Her death was officially ruled

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a homicide directly linked to the injury she sustained in

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the Normandale Park shooting. Clearly that meant the tragedy claimed

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the second life, another devastating blow for Portland's activist community.

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What was it just because she was having complication? Like

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she had a complication, she.

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Was permanently paralyzed from the neck down. She had just

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suffered a lot in the short time since the shooting.

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From the very beginning, the Portland Police Bureau mishandled the

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public narrative of the Normandale Park shooting. I can't help

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but notice that you don't look surprised.

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I mean, I don't. I mean, I'm not. No, and

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I don't. I'm not and I don't I'm not no doubt.

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Their first press release described the incident as a confrontation

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between an armed homeowner and armed protesters, and this description

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was flatly inaccurate, but.

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Makes it sound like they were like intruding on his home.

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Right and that's important because they don't outright say that,

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but words matter.

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Yep.

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Yeah, and your people are going to take away tone

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that you may not even realize is is being implied.

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I just like, what is what does him being a

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homeowner have to do with anything about the situation.

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Here's the funny thing. Next sentence, I sorry, I'm getting outrage. Nope,

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you should be outraged. You should be because Ali who

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also what shot multiple times, Ali perhaps said it best,

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not only a smith, not a homeowner, which is pretty

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small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. That's my statement.

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She says, not only a smith, not a homeowner. We

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were not armed. We were in a public space. We

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were on a road next to a public park. We

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never entered his personal space. We never threatened him, none

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of us approached him. It was him acting towards us

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and us defending ourselves.

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Literally like, yeah, said it best.

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And they absolutely one thousand percent have the footage in

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real time to prove this.

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If he's not even a fucking homeowner, why why other

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than to make that sound like how it sounds.

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And maybe that was just confusion in the early reporting.

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I want to believe that, Okay, cool, confusion fix it. Yeah, yep, yep.

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Smith was not a homeowner. He was a tenant in

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a nearby apartment, and aside from one volunteer guard who

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returned fire, the demonstrators were not armed. Yeah, and I

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think we can say that was some confidence because when

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the authorities showed up at the scene, if there were

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additional weapons, that would have been noted. Yeah, everyone's vehicles

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would have been searched.

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Well, they took what The one other person who did

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have a gun, right, yep, hope was arrested. The rest

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of that person arrested.

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And charged with multiple felonies. Okay, yeah, so yeah, which

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is fair. They have to, you know, act in a

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certain level of caution. But if there were more weapons,

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they would have known about it.

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Or wouldn't.

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They can't have it both ways, like are you are

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you not good at searching people's cars at a crime scene. Anyway,

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they were neighbors, activists, and volunteers gathered to support a

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community march. The framing by PPP did more than just misspeak.

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It implied that those shot bore responsibility for their own injuries. Yeah,

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and there's a very upsetting statement that was made by

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Ted Wheeler I believe within just months of this shooting,

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where he basically said that, you know, protesters were getting

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out of control and people needed to kind of take.

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Justice into their own hands. What does that mean?

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What do you think I mean to the right or

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the wrong person? Those mean very different things. But I

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remember watching the Forensic Architecture documentary and Deja said, I

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remember watching that and thinking he's going to get somebody

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killed for her. It was like, he's going to get

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one of my friends killed. Seriously, for survivors and families,

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this felt like salt in the wound. June, t Rex

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Knightley was memorialized as a generous, joyful figure in Portland's

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activist community. Daig and the others who were injured were

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left to fight for their lives to see them described

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as though they were the aggressors, while Smith's role was

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softened into that of a supposedly embattled homeowner. Absolutely infuriating.

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Forensic Architecture's reconstruction and eyewitness testimony helped community activists who

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immediately pushed back on this framing. Journalists and survivors alike

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pointed out that the bureau's language played into a long

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history of law enforcement minimizing or misrepresenting far right violence

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while painting racial justice activists in a negative light. It

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took nearly three years for Portland police leadership to acknowledge

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this misrepresentation.

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And how much damage was done in that three years

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because of people who thought that.

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In January twenty twenty five, Chief Bob Day issued a

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formal apology, admitting that the bureau's early statements about Normandale

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Park had been wrong and harmful. Day said press releases

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issued in the hours after the February shooting in Northeast

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Portland had described the victim as armed protesters, when in

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fact they were unarmed traffic safety volunteers known as corkers.

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Words matter, and I'm glad the statement was issued, but

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it feels like a couple years late and therefore a

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few bucks short.

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Sorry, But yeah, they weren't even the demonstrators, the protesters

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they were once protecting them.

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They were people trying to help direct traffic safely, help

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people that are protesting peacefully, as is their literal constitutional

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right do so safely. But by then the damage was

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already done.

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Called it who could have called it? Psychat? Cassie over here.

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Yeah, survivors and activists said the apology felt perfunctory and

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far too late. Trust had already eroded, and the community

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felt re traumatized by the delay. In the eyes of many,

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the apology read as a bureaucratic necessity rather than a

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genuine reckoning with harm caused. Perhaps the most devastating revelations

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after the shooting were not just about what happened in

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Normandale Park, but about what had been known about Benjamin

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Jeffrey Smith long before February twenty twenty two. Smith was

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not an unknown figure to law enforcement. Beginning as early

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as two thousand and six, tips were filed with the

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FBI about his violent rhetoric and extremistbehavior online. Over the years,

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multiple reports painted a picture of someone steeped in far

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right ideology, expressing violent fantasies and making threats. By twenty

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twenty one, Smith had attracted enough concern that FBI agents

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actually interviewed him as a part of a threat assessment.

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Wow, they didn't. They didn't get him.

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They found him troubling, but concluded that he did not

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meet the threshold for continued investigation.

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I'm curious what that threshold is and like how close

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to it he was it's tough.

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I mean it's tough because until you actually hurt someone, right.

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Like, I don't think you should treat people like they're

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going to Yeah, really it cause a crime or tough,

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it's really tough.

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Yeah. The FBI's standard is that there must be clear

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evidence of an eminent threat, an eminent federal crime, or

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national security threat. Okay, because Smith was only making general

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threats online without a specific plot, they closed the inquiry.

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You can't fucking arrest every troll, right.

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Yeah, but it wasn't just strangers or internet users raising alarms.

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Though Smith's own cousin called Portland's non emergency line and

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twenty twenty one to report that Smith had made death threats,

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and though it's unclear why that tip went nowhere. Though

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it is clear that multiple red flags existed, the public

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record does not definitively show what became of the cousin's call,

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or whether law enforcement locally pursued it aggressively. Jurisdictional questions

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and delays seem to have played a role, but the

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exact path from report to response remains murky, which is

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a polite way of saying, who the fuck knows?

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I mean, that makes sense, for something that seems to

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not have gone anywhere that they wouldn't track. Yeah, how

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it got to get nowhere?

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Some reporting that I saw indicates that the PPB transferred

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that report to Indiana police because that's where he had

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previously been living, which I don't know. I don't know,

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that's just something I read.

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I can't.

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Yeah, I mean, it's not unlike police bullshit that we've

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heard about so many times.

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But I can't substantiate that I could have happened good,

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Sure could.

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Doesn't even feel unlikely. But the result is what security

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experts call the known wolf problem.

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These are not people who appear out of nowhere.

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They are people well documented by law enforcement, but who

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nevertheless go on to commit horrific acts of violence. In

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Smith's case, he was a known wolf for more than

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a decade, yet because he never quite tripped the narrow

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thresholds for federal action, he was allowed to slip through

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the cracks. The FBI argues that civil liberties and constitutional

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protections limit how far they can go in monitoring someone

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like Smith without clear evidence of crime, which may hold

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a grain of truth under a previous administration.

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Why is making threats not a crime?

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Yeah? I mean, in certain instances it is. If they're

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vague enough, it's not. I feel like any sort of

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threat that's a threat. If you're making any kind of threat,

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I feel like that should be just a crime. It's

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hard to prosecute if there's not a specifically identifiable victim

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or potential victim.

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Can't I mean give a ticket something something, I mean speed,

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I get a ticket, But someone who threatens people online

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doesn't get a ticket. It's hard. It's hard. I'm not

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saying it makes sense, Caitlin, Fixed are just a system

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right now.

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But for Portland's activist community, and for the families of June,

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Nightly and Day, this explanation likely rings hollow.

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It's difficult to fathom.

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How someone could honestly have been repeatedly reported, interviewed by

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the FBI as an official threat assessment, and flagged by

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his own family, and yet still managed to carry out

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such a violent attack. The answer lies in how American

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law enforcement and intelligence agencies historically prioritize threats. Many experts

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argue that American law enforcement and intelligence agencies have historically

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been slower to respond to far right threats than other

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forms of extremism, especially in cases where warning signs were vague,

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or the threats presented themselves online, or they were what

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In some instances, people making these warnings say they felt

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those reports were treated as nuisances rather than urgent red flags.

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For the survivors of Normandale Park, this is more than

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an academic point. It is a matter of life and

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death and a matter of trust. And when law enforcement

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compounds the harm by misrepresenting what happened as PPB did,

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trust erodes even further. This case is another haunting example

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of a man known for his rage and extremism, reported

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again and again, and yet still managed to kill and

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name his neighbors. It leaves the community asking not just

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how this was allowed to happen, but whether those tasked

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with preventing such violence ever truly took the threat seriously.

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Clearly not, And.

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Because I realized that, you know, in order to live

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in a country where we have rights, there are going

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to be restrictions and you're not going to be able

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to stop every crime. That's not what anyone, I think,

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in their right mind would set out to do. But

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it seems like we got a lot of white guys

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with guns slipping through the cracks weird.

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Anybody want to take a look at that? I think

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something was going on here.

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As Part two of this story draws to a close,

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the violent acts of one man continue to cause a

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lingering ripple effect. Smith was no mystery. He was someone

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the FBI had interviewed, someone family had reported, someone whose

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rhetoric was public and extreme and hateful, and yet when

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it mattered, he was treated as just another angry voice.

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On the Internet.

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He will be known for his fiendish rage and bigotry

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if it's the last goddamn thing I do.

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His victims were and.

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Are, people that cared about others, their community, equity, and justice,

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and they themselves were traumatized by not only that evil man,

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but also revictimized by the very same insensitive system they

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hoped could be.

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Changed for the better.

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For Portland's activist community, the Normandale Park shooting is remembered

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not only for the lives lost and forever changed, but

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also for how law enforcement institutions failed them twice, first

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by not heeding warnings about Smith and then by misrepresenting

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what happened on February nineteenth, twenty two. And yet, in

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the wake of unimaginable tragedy and violence, there is resilience.

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June t Rex Knightley is remembered for her kindness and

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commitment to keeping others safe. Day is remembered for her

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humor and bravery. Even the face of paralysis, survivors continue

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to tell the truth of what happened, refusing to allow

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ppb's early narrative to define the tragedy. And this is

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the tension at the heart of so many stories that

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we tell on this show. It's the cruelty of violence

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set against the persistence of community. For every systemic failure,

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there are people that step up and they take care

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of other people. They care for one another. For every misrepresentation,

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there are witnesses and survivors insisting on accuracy. What happened

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at Normandale Park is irreversible. Lives were stolen and futures reshaped.

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But the story doesn't end there. It lives on in

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the memory of the community that refuses to let silence

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or misrepresentation erase the truth. To honor them means not

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just telling the story, but insisting that it be heard fully, clearly,

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and without distortion, like you're doing hopefully, Yeah, I mean

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trying to Yes, yeah, you are. I mean, as I

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understand the facts, but it's just it's crazy to me,

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like how many people have just still like just don't know,

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and like they remember the story that they heard, you

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know a few years ago about how these protesters shot

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a homeowner what you know.

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However, it goes like that's what they're going to.

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Remember and that's very much part of the narrative about

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how oh antifa is taking over Portland. And this is

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why I had people in La texting me asking me like,

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are you okay?

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You can come stay with me? Yeah?

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A lot of people, a lot of people here, Yeah,

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And it was, you know, it was a scary time,

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Like you don't you don't exactly know what's going on

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all the time, but yeah, like it's just so dangerous

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to I think, just misinformation like steer people away from

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protesting too, Like that's yeah, extremely important, Like why do

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you want I feel like not do that right now

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in particular? Yeah, And I don't think that. When I

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started working on this case, I realized fully the broader

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implications of so much of it to what's happening in

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such a big, dramatic and scary, scary way right now,

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and it just seems to get scarier every day, and

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it's hard to know how anything that you say will

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maybe tie into something that's going to happen a week

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from now, because who fucking knows.

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It's I don't say that like not where's the wood?

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Can we knock in the wood? No?

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I mean it's it's like it's a kangaroo court where

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I mean, people are making it up as they go,

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and yeah, it's scary times. It's scary times. And this happened,

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you know, just a couple of years ago, but it

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been a couple of years ago, and the apology was

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this year, less than nine months ago.

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The apology was issued. Like, think about something that could

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be happening right now, like protests that could be happening

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right now, where the same thing happens. Yep, And then

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you're thinking that the wrong side was the one, you

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know what I mean? Yep, you're thinking that the right

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people are on the wrong side. Yeah, for three years,

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how everybody is and for some people that perception is

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just never going to be corrected. Yeah. I say it

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all the time, but words matter.

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And I'm not here certainly not advocating for censorship, but.

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Fuck, it's obviously we would know.

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That's I feel so stupid for saying we're not advocating

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for censorship.

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I mean, but you're saying words matter, like we don't.

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We don't want you to not like have option to

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say certain words or you know, just say the words

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in the right way. I just I just.

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Feel like right now, sometimes I have to say things

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that feel like to me they're obvious, and sometimes I

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have to say things because I just I mean, I

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don't know. I just I hate to be over the top,

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but I just I feel like sometimes I'm like, what

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if I don't have the chance to say this later.

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Yeah, I don't know like how people are going to

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take things, because we know, like there's people on the

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other side of us who are also terrified and scared

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about how their world is going to and so they

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can look at us and what we're saying and be like,

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see they want censorship, and yeah, so you know that's

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where we're coming from.

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I think, Yeah, the world is scary, and I would

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like to take a nap.

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Everyone's scared of each other, and you know what, we

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all should just take a nap together. And then I

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think like a universal nap time would do us haul

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a lot? Can we all just take a nap? Siesta?

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Fucking genius? Just hello, God, there's a culture that got

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it right.

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I was just thinking, I'm like, I don't know if

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everything else in that country is fucked, but they got

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that right.

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That seems good to me.

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I don't know.

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I'm not a great napper. I'm not great at it.

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Just rest, just rest, just rest.

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But also if I was raised from birth taking naps,

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and that was like the culture, Yeah, maybe I don't

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know a bit of a tangent.

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You're not a napper. Maybe you know, have a little

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afternoon delight, oh by yourself? Or who.

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Shame me up? Okay, I have a whiny dog over here.

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She is like, cannot get herself back up into.

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Well, let's go to Taro, Go to Taro.

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Yeah, let's do it. When I was shuffling, I was

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seeing a ton of swords.

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Okay, so we got the nine of Swords in reverse,

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and it's a woman of color sitting on a bed,

473
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crying with her hands in her face. Yeah, her hands

474
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.000
in her face, her head in her hands. Yeah yeah,

475
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.240
her head in her hands. Did I say that right?

476
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.279
Did I say that? A woman of color? Is that

477
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.599
what they Yeah, Okay, I'm like, I don't know, I

478
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:27.359
say things wrong.

479
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.640
Like honestly, I feel like it's important to pay attention

480
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.640
to you will prefer like what.

481
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.519
A black person, But I don't exactly know.

482
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.119
Not every nationality feels the same about it, And I

483
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.480
think it's important to pay attention to, like what the

484
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.720
right nomenclature is. But I think that the vast majority

485
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.759
of people are not mad if you get it wrong. Yeah,

486
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.480
so long as you're willing to accept, you know, criticism

487
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.319
about because I know that words matter, right exactly exactly,

488
00:33:59.680 --> 00:33:59.960
I don't.

489
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.920
I don't want to say anything that's going to hurt

490
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.079
anybody's feelings, that's all.

491
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:03.640
Yeah.

492
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.440
So, oh, and we mentioned that they were so they're

493
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:11.199
wearing a beanie and I had said that you mentioned

494
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:12.800
someone who said they got shot in the head and

495
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.639
you can see like a hole in their beatie. Yes,

496
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.199
did they actually get shot in the header? Did they

497
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.440
get shot in the beanie? No?

498
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.079
They were they they were shot? Who Okay, I was like,

499
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.559
who who was.

500
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.639
Did they die? No?

501
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:32.119
Okay, no, because technically that wasn't June you were talking. No, No,

502
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.519
June was shot at close range and she was dead

503
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:41.960
almost immediately, Okay, and then Dake was the other casualty,

504
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:46.639
and that happened roughly two years later.

505
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:48.320
So wow.

506
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:54.039
But yeah, obviously like numerous people were shot and injured.

507
00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:00.239
You know, It's funny because I talked about how the

508
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.960
the demonstrators, the people that were actually marching versus the

509
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.719
organizer group, they were on opposite ends of the park,

510
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.760
And I can't help but think that.

511
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.760
If this had happened on the other end of the.

512
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:24.400
Park, like how much larger of a victim pool there

513
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.119
potentially was. That is very true, which is I mean

514
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:34.239
just horrific that you think about those type of calculations

515
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.199
when it comes to you know, gun violence.

516
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.960
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, the more people in one area,

517
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:44.400
you know.

518
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.400
Like a small space, and I mean granted it's outdoors,

519
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:58.000
but like can't outrun a bullet, Okay, flash. So nine

520
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.880
of sorts and we drew this in the reverse, right,

521
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:12.199
Yes we did. Our keywords are despair, isolation, sadness, fear, grief,

522
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:13.519
and shame.

523
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.239
Shame.

524
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:23.519
The Nine of Swords shows extreme anxiety, nightmares, tension, unhappiness,

525
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.719
regrets over past mistakes or misfortunes. In many decks. This

526
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.559
card shows a person weeping while nine great swords loom

527
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:40.400
above him or her. In the writer Smith's deck, a

528
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.880
woman sits up in bed as if waking from a nightmare.

529
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.280
Y PTSD. Seriously, Yeah, I was thinking about what all

530
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.360
the people who went through after or what what the

531
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.920
people went through after like and then you know, having

532
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.280
the stories come out about them that were wrong and

533
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.039
having the wrong perception about them. That's like a nightmare.

534
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.239
And like how many of those swords do you have

535
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.679
to take? Okay?

536
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.960
Because this suit represents mental activity, much of your suffering,

537
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.840
maybe in your own mind. There's an extra excerpt. Too

538
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.719
many of us are not living our dreams because we

539
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:27.719
are living our fears.

540
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.119
Well, I mean a lot of us don't have a

541
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.719
chance but to live our fears. Yeah, that's that's like

542
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.719
the one thing about this card I don't I think

543
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.119
in some situations that can apply, but I don't think

544
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.519
in a lot of them. Like you know that it's

545
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.159
all in your head thing is.

546
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.559
No, And I think that I think the takeaway is

547
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.199
maybe not so much that it's all in your head.

548
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.239
I think that it has to do with kind of

549
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.880
a mental and emotional anguish. Yeah. Again, in this case,

550
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.119
I think that really applies.

551
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.440
Like you kind of can't escape being in your.

552
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:08.800
Head, even if you weren't physically or directly impacted by

553
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.880
the actual violence of the shooting. The toll that that

554
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:19.760
takes on you mentally. Nine signify completion, and the reverse

555
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.519
nine can point to the end of a crisis or

556
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.639
a period of despair. You may have determined the root

557
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.679
cause of your misery and are ready to deal with it. Oh,

558
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:38.480
I just that makes me think of Deg. Perhaps you've

559
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.800
stopped feeling sorry for yourself and are willing to make

560
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.960
the changes necessary to repair the damage and move on.

561
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.719
Oh that kind of reminds me though, the police apologizing

562
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:52.679
years and years later.

563
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.239
But that I mean, honestly, that still makes me think

564
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.280
of Deg. I feel like she was ready to move on,

565
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.480
like in it for sure, but like just kind of

566
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:05.840
the way you put it, like make your apologies and

567
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:06.280
move on.

568
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:07.039
That's kind of.

569
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.119
Yeah, that's true. I can understand that. Yeah, very different

570
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:17.199
sides of the same old point. In some cases, this

571
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:23.159
card may indicate getting professional help with the problem, if only,

572
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:25.159
if only.

573
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.280
That's maybe what some people should have done. Yeah, to

574
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:28.760
begin with.

575
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.800
In a reading about money, this card can mean, you

576
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:38.519
see where you made mistakes and begin the process of rebuilding.

577
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.360
After a loss, it may be difficult to pull yourself

578
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.679
out of your problems, but the reverse nine suggest the

579
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:46.719
worst is over.

580
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.400
Don't give up they did, you know, rebuild and go

581
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.000
back to Yeah, we're testing.

582
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.679
And I don't think that there was ever because this

583
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.360
technically didn't go to trial in the way that traditionally

584
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:07.400
most of us think about it. There wasn't really a trial.

585
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.519
It was like he pled guilty. There's not really like

586
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:15.199
trial footage to go back to, like I mean, I

587
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.400
think back to like the Nancy Brophy case, and we

588
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:24.760
literally were able to see footage of the.

589
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:26.039
Trial day to day.

590
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.239
One thing that I didn't choose to include in either

591
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.880
Part one or Part two was that at court, Smith's

592
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:40.320
lawyer basically said that, you know, he chose not to

593
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.159
make a statement in court, which is something that was

594
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:49.039
his right to and it's an opportunity in these situations

595
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:53.719
to sort of express remorse. And kind of the explanation

596
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.880
was that he, in hindsight, just felt so abominable and

597
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.880
just couldn't bring himself to to speak in court. And yeah,

598
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.199
I mean it certainly elicits an eye roll from me.

599
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.159
But if I mean, I wouldn't want to speak in

600
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:11.400
court either if I had done that.

601
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.480
So yeah, and you'd like to think that it was

602
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.920
truly out of some form of remorse source and care.

603
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.039
Yeah, I mean that feels probably far more likely.

604
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.360
If the reading is about your job, you may have

605
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:35.039
suffered as a result of someone else's jealousy, criticism, or nastiness. However,

606
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.480
this card encourages you to stand up for yourself and

607
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.480
stop wallowing in fear or self pity. It may also

608
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.559
recommend changing jobs.

609
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.519
That just yeah, that just reminds me too of the

610
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:52.440
protesters and how they were portrayed and kind of get

611
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.519
up and keep going and don't get a different job.

612
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.960
But like I had ros, don't get a different job.

613
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.159
Keep protesting reminds me of PPP. Yeah personally, but yeah,

614
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.719
they should get a different job. I don't know, I

615
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.840
don't know. In a reading about love, you may be

616
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.079
examining a relationship deeply to decide if it's worth staying

617
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.679
or if you'd be better off leaving. Sometimes being alone

618
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.519
is preferable to remaining in an unhappy situation. Make that

619
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.119
the truth, Yeah, be honest. You may have deceived yourself

620
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:31.079
for a while.

621
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.039
Huh. This makes me think of his previous roommate. She's

622
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:37.760
the one that.

623
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:45.119
Shared a lot about his developing political and other ideologies

624
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.679
about Like, I was scared of him. He suddenly was

625
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.239
like a conspiracy theorist and he was anti mask And.

626
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.440
Was that his cousin or was that a different that's a.

627
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:02.480
Different person that also was afraid of him and felt scared. Yeah, no,

628
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.199
he threatened his cousin. The roommate was just somebody who

629
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.239
had to deal with his day to day craziness.

630
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:11.480
What was his job?

631
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.559
You know, if I came across it in my research,

632
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.119
I don't recall, to be honest, I'm just curious. Yeah,

633
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:23.559
I don't know. That is I find that interesting to

634
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:24.719
know kind of the.

635
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:26.679
What did you do? What did you get up to

636
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:28.960
day to day? Do get up to? Were do you

637
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.280
know these crazy Were you just online? Were you just

638
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:37.239
chronically online? Just chronically online? You were from home? I

639
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:37.599
don't know.

640
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.800
I mean a lot of people did back then. Maybe

641
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:42.280
he got laid off and that's why he was man.

642
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.599
Who knows? Again, I say, just shoot yourself. I mean

643
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.440
maybe just maybe just do that.

644
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:55.639
There's an extra excerpt. Okay, I'm ready for it. There

645
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.920
are very few monsters who weren't the fear we have of.

646
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.199
When they call him a known wolf.

647
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:09.039
And I feel like outside of a situation where he

648
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:16.679
has the advantage of surprise and he has a weapon

649
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.119
and those around him are unarmed, I don't he was

650
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.159
a monster. Yeah, he was a monster, but I think that,

651
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.920
you know, it's like he created that situation. Yeah, And

652
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.480
I just feel like he's somebody that I don't think

653
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.639
anybody would have felt like they had.

654
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.199
Any reason to fear him. So I don't know.

655
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:41.519
Maybe maybe that speaks to, in a way, sort of

656
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:46.559
evaluating who we think we should fear and why and.

657
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.639
Yeah, again, what's that threshold and why was he hander it?

658
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:51.760
That's like that's what I want to know, Like, what

659
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.960
was he doing? We need to lower the bar a

660
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.239
little bit. Maybe I don't know.

661
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:02.119
It's I mean, again, it's hard, and we don't want censorship. Yeah,

662
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.800
it really gets hard though, because unfortunately, as horrific as

663
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.519
some of the things that I know that he has

664
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:19.239
like publicly said are, it's not specifically threatening an individual

665
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:24.159
or even targeting a specific group. So it's really it's

666
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.880
really hard from a legal standpoint. That being said, I think.

667
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:29.159
I don't know.

668
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.159
Maybe maybe we spend a little time.

669
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.559
No, I'm a guy, I don't know. Hatch them like

670
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:35.000
an egg.

671
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.800
I'm not I'm not an expert. But throw a tracker

672
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:39.360
on that, bitch.

673
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:45.920
I'm just kidding. Have aday. We'll see you next Tuesday.

674
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:51.119
Unless you're a furry and a murderer, you know.

675
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.000
Then see a never loser A.

676
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.000
Welcome for he's always welcome. I want to shirt that

677
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.599
say that for he's always alcome. I want, you know,

678
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:06.679
the pants with the words across the butt juicy free's always.

679
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:12.239
Cut that up like that might controversial stamped across your

680
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:18.199
I know I'm not a best reality, don't worry. Despite

681
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:22.400
having reviewed the footage, an early statement issued by Portland's

682
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:35.039
Beleef Cheese Beleef Cheese, the Police Cheese.

683
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:42.760
Beleef Cheese. That might be the takeout cheese. Oh my god,

684
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:47.719
it's only seven o five pm. It's not we can't

685
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.480
even say it's so late noat okay, it's.

686
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.480
Only I want to be home before midnight.

687
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:57.800
Okay, how long does this feel?

688
00:46:57.800 --> 00:46:57.920
Though?

689
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.000
It's only been ten minutes and last time it took

690
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.119
nine minutes to even start. I feel like we're doing great.

691
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:10.840
We're doing great, okay perspective, see what Okay, I'm gonna scroll.

692
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.159
I'm here for us, yeah, bak glob